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« Reply #401 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 10:33:32 »
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I wouldn't be surprised if those Leopold keys didn't come from Signature.  Anybody read Korean?  Notice the sprue mark is in the front like Signatures.
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Yeah will we get sprue marks in the front again?
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« Reply #402 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 10:38:01 »
Oh, I thought they just lost a sandwitch in the controller or something. Sprues are ****ty. They should use a transporter to mold the keys!
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« Reply #403 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 10:46:10 »
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« Reply #404 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 10:47:05 »
I wonder how I am going to explain to my wife why I am spending the amount I plan on for keyboard keys...

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« Reply #405 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 10:50:31 »
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You have a  sprue.

It's called a belly button.


It's disgusting! Eww
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« Reply #406 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 11:01:22 »
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I wonder how I am going to explain to my wife why I am spending the amount I plan on for keyboard keys...


Explain cool factor. Then it's just a simple algorithm:

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celebrateWithBooze()
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« Reply #407 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 11:12:20 »
Ask her about her shoe purchases.


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« Reply #408 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 11:26:46 »
All of the Leopold keys are Signature Plastics.
It even says so on the page:  "Land of Production: USA"

For good measure, a spacebar. Don't think anyone wants this, but its my crude drawing of the G80-11900 (with winkeys):


@7bit: Die Maße zählen jeweils immer von dem äußeren Rand. Zeichnung ist natürlich in MS Paint gemacht da du dein secret vektor tool nicht geschickt hast!

As for the 1800: Measure a winkeyless version today, turns out they are the same as the other old cherry from full size boards.
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« Reply #409 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 11:27:04 »
Tried to make the fire exit in an SVG:

http://philblog.de/dl/escape.svg
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« Reply #410 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 11:31:11 »
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Ask her about her shoe purchases.



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« Reply #411 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 11:35:25 »
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I never seem to win those exchanges when I try that.... I will go with the cool factor idea.... which will fail, but I get them anyway.

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« Reply #412 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 11:47:00 »
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I never seem to win those exchanges when I try that.... I will go with the cool factor idea.... which will fail, but I get them anyway.


Good call; VB can be pretty convincing. Although my code's not complete.

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« Reply #413 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:06:48 »
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All of the Leopold keys are Signature Plastics.
It even says so on the page:  "Land of Production: USA"

For good measure, a spacebar. Don't think anyone wants this, but its my crude drawing of the G80-11900 (with winkeys):

Show Image

@7bit: Die Maße zählen jeweils immer von dem äußeren Rand. Zeichnung ist natürlich in MS Paint gemacht da du dein secret vektor tool nicht geschickt hast!

As for the 1800: Measure a winkeyless version today, turns out they are the same as the other old cherry from full size boards.


Thanks for that!

[SIZE=12]Wait a second!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE]
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All of the Leopold keys are Signature Plastics.

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if(Leopold.keymfgr()=="Signature Plastics" &&
   !(Leopold.spacebar()&SP.possible_spacebars()))
  {
    std::cerr<<&quot;Can't happen!\n&quot;;
    std::exit(-1);
  }


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« Reply #414 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:18:00 »
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Thanks for that!

[SIZE=12]Wait a second!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE]

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if(Leopold.keymfgr()==&quot;Signature Plastics&quot; &&
   !(Leopold.spacebar()&SP.possible_spacebars()))
  {
    std::cerr<<&quot;Can't happen!\n&quot;;
    std::exit(-1);
  }


Are you 100% sure, SP makes all the keycaps for Leopold, inclding the space bar?


Sorry, I should have said all of the Leopold extra keys, such as the colorful ESC sign ones.

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« Reply #415 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:37:28 »
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Tried to make the fire exit in an SVG:

http://philblog.de/dl/escape.svg




The graphic is great, but what about ESCAPE instead of ESC?

Just use the same font for ESCAPE you used for ESC. (was just too lazy to find the correct font)

Don't mind the green color! It will be a red key with white text or whatever color you all like ...
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« Reply #416 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:42:16 »
Dein Wunsch ist mir Befehl:

http://philblog.de/dl/escape2.svg

Position von Text/Piktogramm so okay?
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« Reply #417 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:47:29 »
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Dein Wunsch ist mir Befehl:

http://philblog.de/dl/escape2.svg

Position von Text/Piktogramm so okay?


Ist es moeglich, den Text etwas nach oben zu schieben und etwas mehr nach rechts?
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« Reply #419 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:53:13 »
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Are you 100% sure, SP makes all the keycaps for Leopold, inclding the space bar?


Nope. C++ is less convincing than VB ;)

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« Reply #420 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:53:39 »
Vielleicht solllte der Text (relativ zur Grafik) zentriert sein? Ansonsten wenn sich der Text ausserhalb "des grids" der Grafik befindet, wird die Grafik bei der Herstellung ja kleiner (und daher ungenauer im molding?), da wir mehr Platz auf dem keycap benötigen... oder? Schwer zu erklären.

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« Reply #421 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:56:36 »
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« Reply #422 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:59:07 »
Genau! Müssen wir nur noch abwarten was der Sieben-Bitter dazu sagt.

So, genug German. Apologies to the English readers, you did not miss much.

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« Reply #423 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 13:00:50 »
Oh my god, I didn't even realize I wasn't posting in English:eek:
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« Reply #424 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 13:06:43 »
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Oh my god, I didn't even realize I wasn't posting in English:eek:


LOL!

Version 4:


Version 5:


As you can see, in Version 5 the text is centered, but the escapee isn't!

I said all text centered, I know, but here I would prefer both text and figure being off-center:



Do you see how the text ends where the escapee has got his ellbow?

PS: It's just me.

PS/2: What about leaving the text away?

It doesn't say AWESOME on the Awesomeface...
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« Reply #425 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 13:15:04 »
http://philblog.de/dl/escape6.svg

I hope I got that right.

In case we don't need any text, Wikipedia has this lovely pictogram:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/PublicInformationSymbol_EmergencyExit.svg
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« Reply #426 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 13:30:18 »
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http://philblog.de/dl/escape6.svg

I hope I got that right.


The text is too close to the head again!


x-Position in escape6.svg is perfect!

Just the text more up and the escapee more down,
such that the graphic is centered on that 800x800 gid vertically.
Also, make asure that the left edge of ESCAPE is as far away from the left border, as the left foot of the escapee (which is the right-most in the graphic;-) from the right border.

If you can't make sense of that ^^^, I will show you an illustration.

PS: I appreciate your SVG-skills!!!
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« Reply #427 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 13:56:38 »
Sorry, I was watching Tv for a while because geekhack was down for me...

Anyway, once I tried to remove text and figure from one another and once I vertically centered the figure.

http://philblog.de/dl/escape7.svg
http://philblog.de/dl/escape8.svg

Sorry if I still haven't gotten it right, I'll happily try again or let a real pro do the job ;-)
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« Reply #428 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:04:32 »
Illustrator.
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« Reply #429 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:09:00 »
Argh! I want that Leopold ESC button! :D
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« Reply #430 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:25:07 »
Quote from: bugfix;280556
Sorry, I was watching Tv for a while because geekhack was down for me...

Anyway, once I tried to remove text and figure from one another and once I vertically centered the figure.

http://philblog.de/dl/escape7.svg
http://philblog.de/dl/escape8.svg

Sorry if I still haven't gotten it right, I'll happily try again or let a real pro do the job ;-)




Ideally, you would provide me that green section in the above graphic. (For sure, I mean the white stuff in the green section)

Size is not important because it is scalable anyway.

Just want to make sure, that the whole arrangement, or composition, is not insert-moded in the way IBM^w Unicomp do their key labels.

Please again, look how the right end of ESCAPE closes perfectly with the right edge of the ellbow.

Also, just make a 2nd SVG with the runaway alone, again totally centered, with only a minimum amount of air around it.

PS: In reality I wanted to finish the layouts to hand over to SP ...

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Argh! I want that Leopold ESC button! :D


When we perfectionized this, the Leopold ESC button will look lame!
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« Reply #431 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:46:34 »
I could give you the text&figure as an eps file, that would eliminate the background.
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« Reply #432 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:51:42 »
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I could give you the text&figure as an eps file, that would eliminate the background.


It is no back ground issue!!!!

Sorry, if I had confused you.

Your graphic is fine, except that the relation-ship between text and figure is wrong.

Is it possible to load an image (that PNG-file above) into Illustrator as a background image and then move the escapee and the text from your SVG around, until there is a perfect match?

Then wave away that PNG and save the SVG, posting here and we are done!
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« Reply #433 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:56:25 »
Sorry was a little confused all the time (not your fault).

I hope that this should do the trick:
http://philblog.de/dl/escape10.svg
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« Reply #434 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:57:10 »
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Oh my god, I didn't even realize I wasn't posting in English:eek:


Que?  Hablamanos Espanol solamente en Tejas.


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« Reply #435 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:58:23 »
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Que?  Hablamanos Espanol solamente en Tejas.


I like Mexican food.
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« Reply #436 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:59:19 »
I like German beer.

That's the nice thing about the part of Texas I live in: good Mexican food and good German food.  The beer sucks here, though.  Pretty much everyone drinks Bud Light.


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« Reply #437 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 15:02:35 »
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Pretty much everyone drinks Bud Light.


I tried it (illegally thanks to your strange liquor laws) when I was in the US and cried all night.
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« Reply #438 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 15:26:04 »
Quote from: bugfix;280602
I tried it (illegally thanks to your strange liquor laws) when I was in the US and cried all night.


Sorry for posting off-topic:



The white on top is right, the black underneath is wrong (sorry for being political incorrect).

Put this one underneath your SVG and move the 2 objects around until it's perfect:


PS: for sure it is a matter of taste, after all;-)

PS/2: In reality it will be only that small:

And maybe you shoud move the text a slightly bit more down than what I toold you with that big-ass (800x800) PNG above ...


Quote from: itlnstln;280628
Quote from: 7bit;280626

PS: for sure it is a matter of taste, after all;-)


... and Bud Light doesn't have it.
Just to bring everything full-circle.  Carry on.
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« Reply #439 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 15:28:06 »
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PS: for sure it is a matter of taste, after all;-)


... and Bud Light doesn't have it.


Just to bring everything full-circle.  Carry on.


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« Reply #440 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 15:32:42 »
Actually I don think that the distance to edge really matters as there technically shouldn't be a background in the svg.

They should be able to center this one on the key and it should look as we desire. Or amI mistaken here?

http://philblog.de/dl/escape11.svg

Clarification:

Das einzige auf das es ja wirklich ankommt sollte das Verhältnis von Text zu Figur sein, denn nur die beiden sind tatsächlich in der SVG enthalten. Die "Größe" (800x800 etc.) dient meines Wissens nur als Anhaltspunkt für die Darstellung im Browser. Ich hab jetzt die Objektgruppe exakt auf die Größe des "Grundquadrates" getrimmt, die Positionierung auf dem Key ist dann Sache von SP oder von dir bei der Bestellung. Wenn ich das jetzt total noobig falsch verstanden haben sollte, bitte nicht schlagen :)
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« Reply #441 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 15:35:54 »
Quote from: bugfix;280633
Actually I don think that the distance to edge really matters as there technically shouldn't be a background in the svg.

They should be able to center this one on the key and it should look as we desire. Or amI mistaken here?

http://philblog.de/dl/escape11.svg


I'm afraid, if it is not centred in the SVG it will be not centered on the key!

http://philblog.de/dl/escape11.svg <------ OK, forget it for now, ...
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« Reply #442 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 15:40:13 »
Just wanted to point this out again:
Quote
Das einzige auf das es ja wirklich ankommt sollte das Verhältnis von Text zu Figur sein, denn nur die beiden sind tatsächlich in der SVG enthalten. Die "Größe" (800x800 etc.) dient meines Wissens nur als Anhaltspunkt für die Darstellung im Browser. Ich hab jetzt die Objektgruppe exakt auf die Größe des "Grundquadrates" getrimmt, die Positionierung auf dem Key ist dann Sache von SP oder von dir bei der Bestellung. Wenn ich das jetzt total noobig falsch verstanden haben sollte, bitte nicht schlagen :)
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« Reply #443 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 15:53:34 »
I think that is actually how it works. The spacing in the svg should not matter, since the last version has the placement directly at the edges of the grid. This should be all we need. Anything else is up to SP?

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« Reply #444 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 16:28:29 »
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I think that is actually how it works. The spacing in the svg should not matter, since the last version has the placement directly at the edges of the grid. This should be all we need. Anything else is up to SP?


Left, the latest version from bugfix: / Right, the version I would prefer:


Now everybody should decide which looks better.

(I would prefer the text and escapee in the right graphic a tiny bit closer, but not too close as in some of those many version above.)
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« Reply #445 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 16:33:26 »
http://philblog.de/dl/escape12.svg

Also, what key color will it be? Red or green?
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« Reply #446 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 16:37:54 »
Quote from: bugfix;280657
http://philblog.de/dl/escape12.svg

Also, what key color will it be? Red or green?


White on red.

We had no green yet!
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« Reply #447 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 16:38:41 »
Is escape12.svg OK?
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« Reply #448 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 19:06:50 »
thanks for doing all of this editing bugfix, really helped some people out i am sure   :)
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« Reply #449 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 23:42:30 »
I prefer the original Running man



How about a android key? Green on Black? I'm not an Andriod user but I like the logo.
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