Any update?
Any news on this? I'm curious how they would work compared to Hypersphere's silencing rings, which I've been happy with on a HHKB Pro 2 and an ANSI Novatouch.
It probably depends on the hands typing. I don’t really feel any difference between my HHKB Type-S and my HHKB Pro 2 with Hypersphere’s rings installed to be honest. I’m still curious about these though.
I felt like the KBDfans rings are perfect, but I didn't swap to BKE domes or use any lube.
Worst part about it was the install though, so if these are easier to install without any reduced tactility then definitely interested...
Have we heard an update regarding these? I bought these and the heavy domes back in Febuary, and I sent an email him back in mid April and he said it would be finished at the end of April.
I haven’t seen any updates. Same boat as you
He just put an update out yesterday showing the render of the new pads on instagram. Still seems like it's going to be a while before they're ready to ship.
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Many have wondered what's up with the Silencing Rings, but have no fear, we're nearly finished with them. Here are some renders of what you can expect soon!
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Our supplier is slated to finish the v6 mold update in 10 days, and we'll have the production 10 days after that.
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The silencing rings come with an pre applied adhesive to stick to the housing of topre keyboards. We have not verified compatibility with other electrocapacitive keyboards. A provided tool will be used to install the rubber dampener onto the housings. The dampeners can be easily removed, but shouldn't be reused. Because of this, we will be providing 130 pcs to allow for error.
I sent an email a couple days ago and got an update. My 6 month paypal dispute window is closing in so I wanted to see how to proceed. He said that the silencing rings would be shipping from production on Monday and then he hopes to have them shipped out to us by Friday.
Also if you do not have a previous order of silencing rings, the new rings will be $5 more than the original.
I sent an email a couple days ago and got an update. My 6 month paypal dispute window is closing in so I wanted to see how to proceed. He said that the silencing rings would be shipping from production on Monday and then he hopes to have them shipped out to us by Friday.
Also if you do not have a previous order of silencing rings, the new rings will be $5 more than the original.
So... Any updates on this?
So... Any updates on this?
I haven't seen anything. Come tomorrow I have to go for a refund. I'm down to the last couple days of my 6 months paypal window. Was really hoping to have heard something.
Thanks for the update, BHuber09.
Good to hear we're (hopefully) finally getting what we paid for in the first place. :thumb:
Hopefully lol. Only thing is that picture still very much looks like a render.
Hi!
First of all, thank you for your patience, in letting me fix the Topre Silencing Rings. I know you've had high expectations for this ring.
Secondly, your package has shipped. This is confirmation that your TOPRE SILENCING RINGS are on the way to you.
They will be in a small envelope, and come with the following contents:
150 pcs silencing rings
Here is a small guide, and they do require 2 tools
Tweezers ! Any type will do.
Pencil or another set of tweezers.
Guide: https://imgur.com/a/e4tQUWu
Originally, the plans were to include an installation tool, but turns out that the tool didn't help as much as I had hoped. With self alignment, it was much more easy.
Again, sorry for the inconvenience in this. I hope you enjoy the dampening rings.
If you've previously purchased this set of rings in our V1, I apologize for the delay. It took a while to get this right, on top of fulfilling. If you are interested in purchasing another Topre product, such as Rings, or BKE domes, we'd like to offer you a discount for the inconvenience. The discount is 20% off any Topre-related products. Please confirm your order number for the rings, and we'll help you out.
Again, sorry for the inconvenience.
Please email us at support@keyclack.com for any questions.
So the V1 rings were about half as thick as Hypersphere's rings (according to https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7y2vr5/keyclack_topre_silencing_rings/). V2 is about twice as thick as V1 (according to https://www.instagram.com/p/Bfe9T7MFuv1/?hl=en&taken-by=keyclack)
So what's the advantage compared to using Hypersphere's rings then? They seem to be much more difficult to mount.
Just got my shipping notification. I'll keep everyone updated.
did you guys get tracking or just the email confirming that the rings are on the way?
did you guys get tracking or just the email confirming that the rings are on the way?
Sucks to me be then, I guess. :-[ :D
Maybe it's because I'm located in Europe or something.
Sucks to me be then, I guess. :-[ :D
Maybe it's because I'm located in Europe or something.
Guessing international orders just got the email notification. Basing this off a sample size of 2 (you and me).
Then would you say it would be a viable option then to go with 1 layer?Interested in your take on these rings as you went from hypershperes and then to the silence x rings.
Then would you say it would be a viable option then to go with 1 layer?
Then would you say it would be a viable option then to go with 1 layer?Interested in your take on these rings as you went from hypershperes and then to the silence x rings.
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I recently installed ironed soft-landing pads in my Novatouch. So far it might be my favourite. It's as quiet as Hypersphere's rings, but can be made slimmer. Takes a while though... But the rings easy to obtain, and doesn't cost much.
Well, yes. I have also used Hypersphere's rings in the Novatouch. I have a HHKB Pro 2 with purple sliders (from a factory silenced Realforce), before that I had Hypersphere's rings in that also.
As I said, the soft-landing pads can be made very thin (0.2 mm according to the thread below). However, it requires more work. I have not tried Keyclack's rings, or the KBDfans silence-x. However, in my opinion, it's really important to have silencing material which is as thin as possible, to avoid loss of tactility.
You can read more about the soft-landing pad mod here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0
However, in my opinion, it's really important to have silencing material which is as thin as possible, to avoid loss of tactility.
You can read more about the soft-landing pad mod here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0
I did this mod on my first NT.
Getting the landing pads as thin as possible AND making sure they're all the same thickness can be a challenge.
They've also decompressed quite a bit since then.
I would not recommend reinventing this wheel.
I did this mod on my first NT.
Getting the landing pads as thin as possible AND making sure they're all the same thickness can be a challenge.
They've also decompressed quite a bit since then.
I would not recommend reinventing this wheel.
I definitely accept the challenge, but the decompression disappoints me a little. Did you feel any difference? And what do you mean with reinventing this wheel? Your advice is to stick with the others not that much DIY solutions out there? Like the v2 and silence-x?
I can definitely notice the difference now they've decompressed somewhat. The keyboard has lost most of it's tactility (not that there was much to begin with on 45g Topre).
I haven't installed the v2 to compare, but I'd leave them stock rather than messing around with an iron.
I don't believe it's worth the effort if they're going to expand unevenly over time.
Well, yes. I have also used Hypersphere's rings in the Novatouch. I have a HHKB Pro 2 with purple sliders (from a factory silenced Realforce), before that I had Hypersphere's rings in that also.
As I said, the soft-landing pads can be made very thin (0.2 mm according to the thread below). However, it requires more work. I have not tried Keyclack's rings, or the KBDfans silence-x. However, in my opinion, it's really important to have silencing material which is as thin as possible, to avoid loss of tactility.
You can read more about the soft-landing pad mod here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0
I did this mod on my first NT.
Getting the landing pads as thin as possible AND making sure they're all the same thickness can be a challenge.
They've also decompressed quite a bit since then.
I would not recommend reinventing this wheel.
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Please post some proof of this decompression that you're talking about. The landing pads basically melt, so they should not decompress in any way. They still work great in my Novatouch. On of the sliders has a Hypersphere ring installed, and it sits lower than the ones with landing pads, i.e., they are significantly thinner.
I agree that they are more difficult to modify, but it's not impossible. They are also cheaper. And readily available (also in Europe).
I did this mod on my first NT.
Getting the landing pads as thin as possible AND making sure they're all the same thickness can be a challenge.
They've also decompressed quite a bit since then.
I would not recommend reinventing this wheel.
I definitely accept the challenge, but the decompression disappoints me a little. Did you feel any difference? And what do you mean with reinventing this wheel? Your advice is to stick with the others not that much DIY solutions out there? Like the v2 and silence-x?
I can definitely notice the difference now they've decompressed somewhat. The keyboard has lost most of it's tactility (not that there was much to begin with on 45g Topre).
Silence-X and Hypershpere both work well (I think I prefer silence-x though).
v1 also worked really well if one installed them right and could get past the horrendous failure rate.
I haven't installed the v2 to compare, but I'd leave them stock rather than messing around with an iron.
I don't believe it's worth the effort if they're going to expand unevenly over time.
I did this mod on my first NT.
Getting the landing pads as thin as possible AND making sure they're all the same thickness can be a challenge.
They've also decompressed quite a bit since then.
I would not recommend reinventing this wheel.
I definitely accept the challenge, but the decompression disappoints me a little. Did you feel any difference? And what do you mean with reinventing this wheel? Your advice is to stick with the others not that much DIY solutions out there? Like the v2 and silence-x?
I can definitely notice the difference now they've decompressed somewhat. The keyboard has lost most of it's tactility (not that there was much to begin with on 45g Topre).
Silence-X and Hypershpere both work well (I think I prefer silence-x though).
v1 also worked really well if one installed them right and could get past the horrendous failure rate.
I haven't installed the v2 to compare, but I'd leave them stock rather than messing around with an iron.
I don't believe it's worth the effort if they're going to expand unevenly over time.
If you notice any decompression of the ironed landing pads, it's because your clothing iron was not hot enough, or maybe you did not iron them for long enough. I takes a few seconds at relatively high temperature and relatively strong pressure for a pads to be flattened in a permanent way.
I have several keyboards that I have modded with the ironed landing pads technique several years ago. I think I modded them in 2013. There is absolutely no decompression.
Too hot would be if the pads melted completely. This has never happened with the clothing irons I have used, even when they were set to the maximum temperature, so I suspect that some clothing irons can't even get hot enough.
Some irons also require a long time to reach their operating temperature, and sometimes we start ironing too early. It happened to me.
I understand the ironed landing pad method can be a little tricky. It works, but it's not super easy.
I have ordered KBDFans silencing rings and I will report on their effectiveness, and compare them to my ironed landing pad method.
I did this mod on my first NT.
Getting the landing pads as thin as possible AND making sure they're all the same thickness can be a challenge.
They've also decompressed quite a bit since then.
I would not recommend reinventing this wheel.
I definitely accept the challenge, but the decompression disappoints me a little. Did you feel any difference? And what do you mean with reinventing this wheel? Your advice is to stick with the others not that much DIY solutions out there? Like the v2 and silence-x?
I can definitely notice the difference now they've decompressed somewhat. The keyboard has lost most of it's tactility (not that there was much to begin with on 45g Topre).
Silence-X and Hypershpere both work well (I think I prefer silence-x though).
v1 also worked really well if one installed them right and could get past the horrendous failure rate.
I haven't installed the v2 to compare, but I'd leave them stock rather than messing around with an iron.
I don't believe it's worth the effort if they're going to expand unevenly over time.
If you notice any decompression of the ironed landing pads, it's because your clothing iron was not hot enough, or maybe you did not iron them for long enough. I takes a few seconds at relatively high temperature and relatively strong pressure for a pads to be flattened in a permanent way.
I have several keyboards that I have modded with the ironed landing pads technique several years ago. I think I modded them in 2013. There is absolutely no decompression.
Too hot would be if the pads melted completely. This has never happened with the clothing irons I have used, even when they were set to the maximum temperature, so I suspect that some clothing irons can't even get hot enough.
Some irons also require a long time to reach their operating temperature, and sometimes we start ironing too early. It happened to me.
I understand the ironed landing pad method can be a little tricky. It works, but it's not super easy.
I have ordered KBDFans silencing rings and I will report on their effectiveness, and compare them to my ironed landing pad method.
Looking forward for the comparison.
You also said that is possible to over melt them. When you did the mod did you set a thickness target? Or went by the temperature + time pressuring?
I did this mod on my first NT.
Getting the landing pads as thin as possible AND making sure they're all the same thickness can be a challenge.
They've also decompressed quite a bit since then.
I would not recommend reinventing this wheel.
I definitely accept the challenge, but the decompression disappoints me a little. Did you feel any difference? And what do you mean with reinventing this wheel? Your advice is to stick with the others not that much DIY solutions out there? Like the v2 and silence-x?
I can definitely notice the difference now they've decompressed somewhat. The keyboard has lost most of it's tactility (not that there was much to begin with on 45g Topre).
Silence-X and Hypershpere both work well (I think I prefer silence-x though).
v1 also worked really well if one installed them right and could get past the horrendous failure rate.
I haven't installed the v2 to compare, but I'd leave them stock rather than messing around with an iron.
I don't believe it's worth the effort if they're going to expand unevenly over time.
If you notice any decompression of the ironed landing pads, it's because your clothing iron was not hot enough, or maybe you did not iron them for long enough. I takes a few seconds at relatively high temperature and relatively strong pressure for a pads to be flattened in a permanent way.
I have several keyboards that I have modded with the ironed landing pads technique several years ago. I think I modded them in 2013. There is absolutely no decompression.
Too hot would be if the pads melted completely. This has never happened with the clothing irons I have used, even when they were set to the maximum temperature, so I suspect that some clothing irons can't even get hot enough.
Some irons also require a long time to reach their operating temperature, and sometimes we start ironing too early. It happened to me.
I understand the ironed landing pad method can be a little tricky. It works, but it's not super easy.
I have ordered KBDFans silencing rings and I will report on their effectiveness, and compare them to my ironed landing pad method.
Looking forward for the comparison.
You also said that is possible to over melt them. When you did the mod did you set a thickness target? Or went by the temperature + time pressuring?
I think one could melt them with a clothing iron, because I have approached this point. I warned about it, but it did not actually happen to me, even with the iron set at the max temp (hey, it's a clothing iron, after all).
After experimenting with the procedure, my target is the thickness. You should aim for a sixth to a quarter of a millimeter (~0.006 to 0.010 inch), because it's possible and the result is both good silencing and no loss of tactile feedback. You get this by using the highest temperature you can, without melting them, and good pressure. So even if you do not have any tool to measure the resulting thickness, this simple rule of thumb is all you need. You make one and you try to make it as thin as possible. Then you can use this one to compare to the other ones you make, and they should not feel thicker when you hold them between your fingers.
It's really unscientific, but you don't need more than that.
With more experience, I have noticed that a third of a millimeter is acceptable (~0.013 inch). I mention it because I know it's difficult to get to a quarter or a sixth.
At this point the landing pad looks more like a thin sheet of rubber than a foam pad.
Reduced tactility starts when the landing pad is half a millimeter thick (0.02 inch) or more, approximately. It's still OK, but you start noticing it. It's good to know because half a millimeter (0.02 inch) is not that hard to measure, and when you reach that point you know that you did not iron them hard enough.
Some silencing methods claim a reduction of travel of "only" half a millimeter (0.02 inch), but unfortunately it's already too much and some tactility is lost. It may actually be OK, but if you really want to keep the original tactility you should avoid them.
Anyone else got their silence ring yet? I haven't got mine also would be interested to hear more reviews.
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Also is it normal that I still haven't got my V2 rings yet? Should I contact jchan to find out what's going on?
Here's a comparison of the V2 ring and a Hypersphere ring thickness. Sorry for the shotty image quality, unfortunately I don't own a macro lens.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MfvTvob.jpg)