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Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:06:49
Orders close January 2nd 2013

UPDATE #1:
Quote
Okay, here's what were going to do about the teensy.

For people who have already submitted their order, I'm going to add the same number of controllers as the number of PCBs you put down. The controllers will be $18 for now, and I'll bump it down to $16 if we hit 100.
The low weight of these shouldn't add to shipping costs.
These will be the Teensy 2.0 controller with pin headers pre-soldered to them.

If you have a problem with this, or what a different amount of Teensys than number of PCBs you ordered PM me with changes and I'll make them.

First off, a thank you to jdcarpe to helping me getting this GB rolling, and, of course, to bpiphany for letting us use his Phantom design to run this round 2 GB. I think this is a really cool project for people to build their own custom boards at a reasonable price. 


Intro

The Phantom PCB is a custom tenkeyless board designed by bpiphany (formally PrinsValium) to be used with the teensy 2 programmable usb controller and a mounting plate.
Main features:
•   1.5x and 1.25x modifiers
•   Center stemmed and off-center caps lock
•    7x Cherry spacebars
•   ISO and ANSI layouts
•   5 extra keys above the arrow key cluster
•   Costar and Cherry stabilizers
•   6KRO over USB
•   In-switch LED at caps/scroll lock and Filco style LEDs
•   Switch top removal without desoldering
•   LED brightness control
•   Firmware source code can be used to remap keys

We will be keeping the PCB black with white LEDs like the original GB

What's included
1 – Phantom PCB
100 – Diodes
2 – LEDs
2 – Resistors for LEDs
2- LED stand-offs for filco-style LEDs

What you'll need
Cherry MX switches
A Teensy 2.0 controller with header pins----Available through his GB for $18 per
Stabilizers (Costar or Cherry)
Mounting plate
----Tools----
Soldering iron
Solder
Wire cutter (or if you’re cheap like me nail clippers)
Desoldering tool/braid (unless you never plan to desolder anything and won’t make any mistakes)
A DMM(or an old school multimeter) is useful to test for continuity, even super cheap ones will work fine

Pricing
Everything in the “What’s included” section above will cost $35 per board.

Shipping
I’ve calculated shipping based on estimated weights of various parts. Shipping boxes are 6 ounces, boards 5 ounces, diodes/leds/resistors are negligible, and 1 ounce extra for packing paper. Price below are calculated from costs from USPS (added $2 to each price to account for cost of packaging materials like boxes, paper, tape, etc).

Domestic (US only)
1 board - $8
2-4 boards - $10
5-8 boards - $12

International
1 board - $12
2 boards - $15

Unfortunately, international shipping is quite a bit more especially once several boards are involved since price hikes happen at 4 ounce intervals as opposed to domestic which increases prices at every pound. For larger orders, PM me and we will figure out the best/cheapest way to ship.
If it is the case that we have a large amount of international orders, it might be beneficiary to find an EU distributer, but for now just take the prices I have posted as the maximum you’d have to pay.

Order form here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGlZZXBvczFVS0EyMmdoLVJJcUFiZ1E6MQ
If you would like to make changes to your order please PM me

Misc stuff:

Building instructions (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_Instruction)
TheProfosist is offering assembly services: here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.0)
TheProfosist is also offering various parts needed for the Phantom that are not included in this group buy. Please refer to the link above
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:07:01
Final order counter:

160 boards
165 Teensy controllers
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:13:28
Filled.  Thanks dude.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:14:11
Ordered!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Dgsbllx on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:17:35

Ordered. I take it you will send us an invoice accordingly?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:18:53
Ordered

Thanks Bavman, and anyone else who had their little fingers in making this happen.  I'm excited.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:19:01
Yes once orders close (TBD) I will invoice everyone so we can put in our order for the boards
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: phetto on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:19:11
Ordered 4 =)

thanks
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: litster on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:29:26
you are missing 2 LED stand-offs, if you want LEDs at the normal Filco LED locations and not on the switches. 
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: mashby on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:40:11
Ordered.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:49:44
Ordered. When is the close date?
Title: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:58:54
Ordered!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Amarok on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:02:43
Does anyone know what the total approx. cost ended up being for a complete Phantom board in round 1?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:14:33
Ordered.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:17:25
Gogo! Ordered =D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:19:25
Does anyone know what the total approx. cost ended up being for a complete Phantom board in round 1?

Depends if you already have some of the parts.

Teenkey - $16-$20
Switches - $30-$45
Plate - $18-$25
Stabz - $10
Case - $100 - $?????
Someone to solder if you don't wanna do it - $50ish

Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:21:29
Order placed. Now I need a 7Bit plate.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: cytoSiN on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:25:26
Ordered!  Can't wait!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: phetto on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:29:34
btw, will the PCB look the exact same way as the old one?

Will it be called phantom 2?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:32:28
Ordered. When is the close date?

Not sure yet, but in a couple weeks probably.

btw, will the PCB look the exact same way as the old one?

Will it be called phantom 2?

Since we are not doing any modifications to the board, it will basically be a copy of the old one, so it's not a second revision, just a rerun.


Also, 2 stand-offs will now be included to allow for filco-style LED mounting as opposed to in-switch
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:36:08
Ordered. When is the close date?

Not sure yet, but in a couple weeks probably.

btw, will the PCB look the exact same way as the old one?

Will it be called phantom 2?

Since we are not doing any modifications to the board, it will basically be a copy of the old one, so it's not a second revision, just a rerun.


Cool beans. Can't wait and hopefully the case will be done by them :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: simkev on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:40:29
Finally, anyone knows where to get hold of cad files for the plates? Im interested in PHANSI150 and 7bit?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:43:38
Winkeyless casing would be a nice option =D

Finally, anyone knows where to get hold of cad files for the plates? Im interested in PHANSI150 and 7bit?

I need a PHANSI150 plate too!

Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: frostwoozle on Wed, 19 December 2012, 16:16:35
Typed myself in for one, it will be a neat summer project and a good way to refine my soldering. Are there any whispers of other compatible case GBs in the nearish future? Notice I missed the MKC aluminum one but the pricing is too high for me regardless.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Wed, 19 December 2012, 16:55:43
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38305.0  This is the interest check for assembly of phantom. They are looking into making custom cases for the phantom =D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: reality404 on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:06:22
Thanks for the groupbuy. Ordered.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:09:49
When will the gb close? I'm indecisive  :-X
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:20:17
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38305.0  This is the interest check for assembly of phantom. They are looking into making custom cases for the phantom =D
custom cases no, cases that fit the phantom yes, sorry about the downer.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:29:13
CAD files are available on DT. Let me see if I can pull down a link...
Here we are! (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/phantom-custom-keyboard-group-buy-closed-t1411-180.html) Second post by Litster, fellas!

Also, if Prof gets overwhelmed...I can help solder as well!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:29:22
thanks for the gb, bavman
just have one thought
is that possible you can put the Teensy 2.0 controller in as a bundle??? :p
maybe you can get some discount from them if the mount is large(50+ pieces)? and we all can save some shipping....
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DanGWanG on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:29:40
submitted order =)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:31:49
Submitted. Just need to get a case which I think will be the hardest part in all of this.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:36:40
I think that MKC's new Clear V3 case will be a big hit if it fits the Phantom... :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: link_tree on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:39:18
where can you find a fitting case for this project?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:39:39
CAD files are available on DT. Let me see if I can pull down a link...
Here we are! (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/phantom-custom-keyboard-group-buy-closed-t1411-180.html) Second post by Litster, fellas!

Also, if Prof gets overwhelmed...I can help solder as well!
Last time I remember these being overly expensive and not a bunch being made. Also I dont think he posted the actual files to be cut either otherwise i might look into it...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:39:59
Order submitted for one PCB
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:40:10
I think that MKC's new Clear V3 case will be a big hit if it fits the Phantom... :D
Link to thread? I should mention I'm building (or having built for me) winkeyless which narrows everything to nothing. :(
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:42:36
thanks for the gb, bavman
just have one thought
is that possible you can put the Teensy 2.0 controller in as a bundle??? :p
maybe you can get some discount from them if the mount is large(50+ pieces)? and we all can save some shipping....

I'll look into it, I just emailed them
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:51:00
lol
thats awesome!!!
i will place my order when you get the controller price~ ;D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:57:15
I think that MKC's new Clear V3 case will be a big hit if it fits the Phantom... :D
Link to thread? I should mention I'm building (or having built for me) winkeyless which narrows everything to nothing. :(
Feng said soon. I imagine they're not Soon(tm) which is nice.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:00:30
I think that MKC's new Clear V3 case will be a big hit if it fits the Phantom... :D
I heard from feng that MKC wasnt making anymore acrylic cases....
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:01:41
I think that MKC's new Clear V3 case will be a big hit if it fits the Phantom... :D
Link to thread? I should mention I'm building (or having built for me) winkeyless which narrows everything to nothing. :(
Feng said soon. I imagine they're not Soon(tm) which is nice.
o reallies something must have changed... i wonder if I can get some from my assembly GB...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:02:28
thanks for the gb, bavman
just have one thought
is that possible you can put the Teensy 2.0 controller in as a bundle??? :p
maybe you can get some discount from them if the mount is large(50+ pieces)? and we all can save some shipping....

The more parts included in this groupbuy the better for me.  I don't know where to find all the extra pieces.  For items like the plates, do we have to get them in a groupbuy, or is there a place online that I can order them?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:10:27
thanks for the gb, bavman
just have one thought
is that possible you can put the Teensy 2.0 controller in as a bundle??? :p
maybe you can get some discount from them if the mount is large(50+ pieces)? and we all can save some shipping....

The more parts included in this groupbuy the better for me.  I don't know where to find all the extra pieces.  For items like the plates, do we have to get them in a groupbuy, or is there a place online that I can order them?
there will most likely be a GB. I will so have them in my Assembly GB
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: insomnesia on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:13:34
Ordered 2 & 2 for two different international addresses.
so,,total 4 ordered
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:14:27
Okay guys what do you think about including the teensy controller into the GB?

I talked to Paul over at PJRC electronics and we can save $1.60 on the controllers if we buy at least 25, and $3.20 if we reach 100 orders. (Right now board orders are at 50 exactly)
This will also save people on shipping since individual controllers cost $3.70 to ship inside the US and a little under $7 for international. I'm not sure if there's any other options for the Phantom, so unless someone has an objection, I feel like this would be better to add since it will save everyone at least $5 off their final project.

Let me know what you guys think.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:15:24
Ordered one to match the plate I got from dan.  Now to decide switches and hope one of the custom cases in the works comes through.

I would like as much included in the GB as possible, so if you could get the teensy included as well, that would work.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:17:21
Okay guys what do you think about including the teensy controller into the GB?

I talked to Paul over at PJRC electronics and we can save $1.60 on the controllers if we buy at least 25, and $3.20 if we reach 100 orders. (Right now board orders are at 50 exactly)
This will also save people on shipping since individual controllers cost $3.70 to ship inside the US and a little under $7 for international. I'm not sure if there's any other options for the Phantom, so unless someone has an objection, I feel like this would be better to add since it will save everyone at least $5 off their final project.

Let me know what you guys think.

dont forget pins if your including the controller!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:18:10
Okay guys what do you think about including the teensy controller into the GB?

I talked to Paul over at PJRC electronics and we can save $1.60 on the controllers if we buy at least 25, and $3.20 if we reach 100 orders. (Right now board orders are at 50 exactly)
This will also save people on shipping since individual controllers cost $3.70 to ship inside the US and a little under $7 for international. I'm not sure if there's any other options for the Phantom, so unless someone has an objection, I feel like this would be better to add since it will save everyone at least $5 off their final project.

Let me know what you guys think.

dont forget pins if your including the controller!

Yup those prices are for the 2.0 with pin headers pre-soldered
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: ElTwig on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:29:47
Ordered PCB

Hopefully I can find a good case  :-X
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:32:27
I think that MKC's new Clear V3 case will be a big hit if it fits the Phantom... :D
Link to thread? I should mention I'm building (or having built for me) winkeyless which narrows everything to nothing. :(

What kind of winkeyless casing(material etc.)? I am interested in it! It would be nice if it can be simple like a filco casing =D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pasph on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:50:18
Stabilizers (aside Costar from WASD)?
 
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: okooko on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:50:57
in for 1 at the moment.

maybe another for me to play around with later on
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:55:27
Okay guys what do you think about including the teensy controller into the GB?

I talked to Paul over at PJRC electronics and we can save $1.60 on the controllers if we buy at least 25, and $3.20 if we reach 100 orders. (Right now board orders are at 50 exactly)
This will also save people on shipping since individual controllers cost $3.70 to ship inside the US and a little under $7 for international. I'm not sure if there's any other options for the Phantom, so unless someone has an objection, I feel like this would be better to add since it will save everyone at least $5 off their final project.

Let me know what you guys think.

As stated before, the more included in the GB the better for me.  I don't even care about the $ savings, I'm more interested in the convenience. 

So, if you're keeping track, +1 for including.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:59:15
Okay guys what do you think about including the teensy controller into the GB?

I talked to Paul over at PJRC electronics and we can save $1.60 on the controllers if we buy at least 25, and $3.20 if we reach 100 orders. (Right now board orders are at 50 exactly)
This will also save people on shipping since individual controllers cost $3.70 to ship inside the US and a little under $7 for international. I'm not sure if there's any other options for the Phantom, so unless someone has an objection, I feel like this would be better to add since it will save everyone at least $5 off their final project.

Let me know what you guys think.

As stated before, the more included in the GB the better for me.  I don't even care about the $ savings, I'm more interested in the convenience. 

So, if you're keeping track, +1 for including.

I'd like one included and an extra one, please.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:01:30
Okay guys what do you think about including the teensy controller into the GB?

I talked to Paul over at PJRC electronics and we can save $1.60 on the controllers if we buy at least 25, and $3.20 if we reach 100 orders. (Right now board orders are at 50 exactly)
This will also save people on shipping since individual controllers cost $3.70 to ship inside the US and a little under $7 for international. I'm not sure if there's any other options for the Phantom, so unless someone has an objection, I feel like this would be better to add since it will save everyone at least $5 off their final project.

Let me know what you guys think.

dont forget pins if your including the controller!

Yup those prices are for the 2.0 with pin headers pre-soldered
nice
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Amarok on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:11:40
Ordered PCB.

Also +1 for adding the controller to this GB.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:11:44
I say include the teensy because you can't build a phantom without one.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:24:14
UPDATE

Okay, here's what were going to do about the teensy.

For people who have already submitted their order, I'm going to add the same number of controllers as the number of PCBs you put down. The controllers will be $18 for now, and I'll bump it down to $16 if we hit 100.
The low weight of these shouldn't add to shipping costs.
These will be the Teensy 2.0 controller with pin headers pre-soldered to them.

If you have a problem with this, or what a different amount of Teensys than number of PCBs you ordered PM me with changes and I'll make them.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:31:49
Yup those prices are for the 2.0 with pin headers pre-soldered


Only problem with that being all the necessary pin locations are NOT populated with this option.  You will still need to obtain some pins for interior board locations.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:34:48
Yup those prices are for the 2.0 with pin headers pre-soldered


Only problem with that being all the necessary pin locations are NOT populated with this option.  You will still need to obtain some pins for interior board locations.

Is it just the 2 extra pins on the insides? I'm trying to figure out by looking at the pcb pic
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:34:51
In for 2!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:36:09
Yup those prices are for the 2.0 with pin headers pre-soldered


Only problem with that being all the necessary pin locations are NOT populated with this option.  You will still need to obtain some pins for interior board locations.
use diode legs
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:36:42
Yup those prices are for the 2.0 with pin headers pre-soldered


Only problem with that being all the necessary pin locations are NOT populated with this option.  You will still need to obtain some pins for interior board locations.

I see what you mean. There are 3 extra pins that have to be soldered from the controller to the board. I'll figure something out and include it

Actually I like TheProfosist's idea :) Those diode legs should be plenty long enough.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:42:14
I like the thicker size of a real header pin, but as long as you know about it that's the important part.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:57:35
bavman, if you wanted, you could order some number of extra pin headers, then cut off 3 and send with each Teensy.

Is the Teensy available as a separate line item? If so, I ordered 3 PCB, but I would like 4 Teensy, please.

:D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 20:06:28
I like the thicker size of a real header pin, but as long as you know about it that's the important part.
yes ive done both prefer the header pins myself but idk if bavman wants to do the extra work to include them
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 19 December 2012, 20:07:08
bavman, if you wanted, you could order some number of extra pin headers, then cut off 3 and send with each Teensy.

Is the Teensy available as a separate line item? If so, I ordered 3 PCB, but I would like 4 Teensy, please.

:D

Yes I added it to the order form as separate and I'll update your order to 4 teensys.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Wed, 19 December 2012, 20:14:22
order submitted!!!!!
thanks man!!!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 19 December 2012, 20:45:19
bavman, if you wanted, you could order some number of extra pin headers, then cut off 3 and send with each Teensy.

Is the Teensy available as a separate line item? If so, I ordered 3 PCB, but I would like 4 Teensy, please.

:D

Yes I added it to the order form as separate and I'll update your order to 4 teensys.

Please update mine to 1 set with a total of 2 teensys. (teensies?)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 19 December 2012, 21:30:14
If we get more GB's for the other parts required like (plates/cases/etc) to run in conjunction to this one I'd probably buy one to two more PCB's.  I know a lot of you on here have talked about doing such things.  Does anyone have any plans to get something like that up and running?  I know a lot of the more inexperienced people like myself would appreciate it. 

BTW what are the options for different cases?  Are there many? Does anyone have pics?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: akuJIWA on Wed, 19 December 2012, 21:42:11
I have just updated my order, thanks my good man.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 December 2012, 22:06:19
Yes I added it to the order form as separate and I'll update your order to 4 teensys.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 19 December 2012, 23:15:27
Btw guys, if you don't like white or whatever LED colors will be chosen for this GB, just get your own. They're super cheap (only ~15cents), but they'll just have to be paired with the correct resistors. Those are also pretty cheap compared to the overall cost of a finished Phantom.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 19 December 2012, 23:22:28
I take it the PCB will be able to fit in a Flico TKL case since it's using Filco style LED mounts?  Also whats the closed date? Thanks!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 23:23:35
I take it the PCB will be able to fit in a Flico TKL case since it's using Filco style LED mounts?  Also whats the closed date? Thanks!
yes it was originally designed to fit into a Filco TKL case
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 19 December 2012, 23:24:04
Also im assume that close date is after the new year some point correct me if im wrong though please
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Wed, 19 December 2012, 23:52:10
I'm likely going to get on this even though it will be my first soldering experience. The real question for me is the availability of other required components: cases, plates and keycaps for the round 1 special plates (7bit layout). If someone wants to help organize the rest (and if the orders for this round2 PCB aren't already indicating, less than a day in), I'd order more than 1.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Germiphene on Thu, 20 December 2012, 01:02:05
Ordered!  Looking forward to putting this all together  ;D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 20 December 2012, 01:02:43
I'm likely going to get on this even though it will be my first soldering experience. The real question for me is the availability of other required components: cases, plates and keycaps for the round 1 special plates (7bit layout). If someone wants to help organize the rest (and if the orders for this round2 PCB aren't already indicating, less than a day in), I'd order more than 1.

I used to solder a lot when I was interning and got pretty good at it really fast.  Soldering truly is easy, however, you may want to use caution if this is your first experience ever.  Beginners tend to leave the iron on for too long and this can damage the board.  I would recommend that you get a scrap board and try adding and removing components before you try the real thing.  I was working on some delicate/tiny stuff, however, even the most robust boards can easily be damaged.  One last thing, flux is your friend. 
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 03:26:45
Whats the difference from Teensy 2.0 to 3.0?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Thu, 20 December 2012, 03:29:40
Whats the difference from Teensy 2.0 to 3.0?

In short, everything...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 04:04:19
mind blown
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 04:08:28
Whats the difference from Teensy 2.0 to 3.0?

In short, everything...
lol same thing i would have said.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 04:11:58
I read that it is a lot faster, bigger memory and all. What is preferable? jw
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Thu, 20 December 2012, 04:13:54
I read that it is a lot faster, bigger memory and all. What is preferable? jw

Something AVR =)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 04:19:31
no idea. I guess ill stop asking questions. Too confusing. haha
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:02:49
I shlould have my GB for asssembly up today one im up.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: BimboBB on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:03:09
Does somebody know if the PCB fits also into a Ducky G2Pro TKL (DK9087) case? Its looks very similiar to the Filco case.

Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:06:50
Does somebody know if the PCB fits also into a Ducky G2Pro TKL (DK9087) case? Its looks very similiar to the Filco case.


more than likely it wont but if you crack the case open and get some measurements and pics you could easily find out.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:13:03
Anywhere to get a cheap case? Maybe a GB?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:19:44
Anywhere to get a cheap case? Maybe a GB?
i will have some sort of a case in my assembly GB
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:25:12
Will it be possible to get the case separate or only through the service?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:30:40
Will it be possible to get the case separate or only through the service?
it may be idk as of yet as a certain specific case isnt lined up yet.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 06:10:55
Oh, I see, you can plug a mini usb in a Teensy, correcto?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 December 2012, 06:24:54
Anywhere to get a cheap case? Maybe a GB?

You could make one out of cardboard. See litster's first image posted here: http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/phantom-custom-keyboard-group-buy-closed-t1411-180.html
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 20 December 2012, 06:26:40
LOLOL hahahahaah :D

What if you had sweaty palms, mold grow mold!  :p :p
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Amr0d on Thu, 20 December 2012, 08:09:37
Fancy form filled with order :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 20 December 2012, 08:42:48
LOLOL hahahahaah :D

What if you had sweaty palms, mold grow mold!  :p :p

Build a cardboard case, bondo it, lacquer it.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Thu, 20 December 2012, 08:44:16
LOLOL hahahahaah :D

What if you had sweaty palms, mold grow mold!  :p :p

Build a cardboard case, bondo it, lacquer it.


Going to work on that now ^_^
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Thu, 20 December 2012, 08:52:42
LOLOL hahahahaah :D

What if you had sweaty palms, mold grow mold!  :p :p

Build a cardboard case, bondo it, lacquer it.


Going to work on that now ^_^

boost! what kind of casing are you working on? =D
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 20 December 2012, 08:58:04
LOLOL hahahahaah :D

What if you had sweaty palms, mold grow mold!  :p :p

Build a cardboard case, bondo it, lacquer it.


Going to work on that now ^_^
Will you be releasing the files? Just curious:)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: reverkiller on Thu, 20 December 2012, 09:25:07
I saw the old cardboard case idea, and thought that I would use it (at least for a little while) with some sort of covering to stop it from totally destroying under daily use). Screw Laser cutters - I'd do this the old fashioned way with scissors and exacto knifes!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Thu, 20 December 2012, 09:55:11
hi bavman,
i have not received any invoice from you.....could you check? :eek:
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 December 2012, 10:13:36
This GB is not to the invoicing phase, yet. Patience. :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Thu, 20 December 2012, 10:17:03
This GB is not to the invoicing phase, yet. Patience. :D
lol~~~
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Thu, 20 December 2012, 11:26:31
Okay so I decided that I'll stop taking orders January 2, 2013. That gives us a good 2 weeks to collect orders. I might have to extend it based on the circumstances.
Invoices will start going out after orders have closed

Also post 2 should be all up to date now.


I've been thinking of trying that cardboard idea but with plexiglass. I think it would look nice, but I need a dremel first
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 20 December 2012, 11:35:32
Nice, finally a GB that moves at a respectable pace.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 December 2012, 11:43:45
Most people who want/need these have known for QUITE a while that they want/need them. Phantom is well-established.

I have been waiting to order these since I joined here, which was just after the original GB stopped accepting new orders. Finally got the plates I wanted when DanGWanG had The_Beast make up 20 of them for us.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: i3oilermaker on Thu, 20 December 2012, 11:44:11
Ordered!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 20 December 2012, 11:49:31
LOLOL hahahahaah :D

What if you had sweaty palms, mold grow mold!  :p :p

Build a cardboard case, bondo it, lacquer it.

Fiberglass would probably work better and less risk of chipping and whatnot.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: remmeh on Thu, 20 December 2012, 12:43:08
in for one!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 13:20:55
Half ass korean style. Roll out a nonslip pad and just lay it there.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 December 2012, 13:28:51
Half ass korean style. Roll out a nonslip pad and just lay it there.

I kinda dig that. Maybe not use any keycaps, just type on the stems. :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 13:33:55
Half ass korean style. Roll out a nonslip pad and just lay it there.

I kinda dig that. Maybe not use any keycaps, just type on the stems. :)

Yea putting on keycaps are so overrated.  If cherry wanted keycaps on mx switches they would already be on them.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:45:32
Half ass korean style. Roll out a nonslip pad and just lay it there.

I kinda dig that. Maybe not use any keycaps, just type on the stems. :)

Yea putting on keycaps are so overrated.  If cherry wanted keycaps on mx switches they would already be on them.
Instead they made their own font and laughed all the while. :(

How hard is it to make a decent firmware? I think I've finally decided on a layout (winkeyless with a fn button on the right part of right shift) but have never done firmware before. I know C so that's not really an issue.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:48:43
There are ready to flash firmwares for the phantom...im not sure though if you can mod them or not
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:04:25
hasu and Tranquilite (based on hasu's code) have programmable firmwares available for the Phantom, if I'm not mistaken. I think that is what TheProfosist uses for his custom layout (Tranquilite's).
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:17:09
hasu and Tranquilite (based on hasu's code) have programmable firmwares available for the Phantom, if I'm not mistaken. I think that is what TheProfosist uses for his custom layout (Tranquilite's).
yes I use Tranquilite's for both my Phantom and HID Liberation Device. I am trying to get him to offer his services for my assembly GB so hopefully Ill hear back soon.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:21:21
His services to do what exactly?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:56:24
His services to do what exactly?
customize the firmware to somones layout like has has done for me in the past
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 17:05:11
hey bavman my GB thread is up for assembly could you please change the OP, thanks.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.0
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Thu, 20 December 2012, 17:06:00
Already ahead of you :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 20 December 2012, 17:43:33
His services to do what exactly?
customize the firmware to somones layout like has has done for me in the past
Wait, it's not possible to combine a layout file and generate your own, (Soarer's does this, I think?) or modify the firmware yourself (Here, I start to think about what I get when I change my menu.xml in openbox)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: akuJIWA on Thu, 20 December 2012, 17:50:49
Will there be a groupbuy for the rest of the stuff needed? Profosist seems to do it, but I really want to do it myself to get to know about my keyboard..
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 20 December 2012, 18:14:28
Will there be a groupbuy for the rest of the stuff needed? Profosist seems to do it, but I really want to do it myself to get to know about my keyboard..
If there are I don't think bavman plans to lead them, or else he'd probably include them all in this GB lol (as he did with the teensy)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 18:17:08
His services to do what exactly?
customize the firmware to somones layout like has has done for me in the past
Wait, it's not possible to combine a layout file and generate your own, (Soarer's does this, I think?) or modify the firmware yourself (Here, I start to think about what I get when I change my menu.xml in openbox)
I dont know havnt even looked into it i just let him do it for me cause he had originally getto rigged layers before hazu's firmware
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 18:25:21
Will there be a groupbuy for the rest of the stuff needed? Profosist seems to do it, but I really want to do it myself to get to know about my keyboard..
If there are I don't think bavman plans to lead them, or else he'd probably include them all in this GB lol (as he did with the teensy)
everything else for the most part you can pick up on your own and i though beast was going to do a plate GB
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 20 December 2012, 20:04:08
one for me.

let's see what layout i am going to make. :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 20:12:06
Updated my GB to include parts only as an option. bavman do you think you could add a checkbox to your google form to have it sent to me to build or what ever rreason i bring this up it should cut down on PMs about having me build them.
Title: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Thu, 20 December 2012, 23:54:57
Posted my form.

Thanks for setting this up Bavman!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Ovoxo on Fri, 21 December 2012, 00:11:29
In for 1. Thanks
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Tranquilite on Fri, 21 December 2012, 15:38:09
Anyway, I just finished a guide to compiling a custom layout for phantoms using Hasu's firmware. While this probably isn't the best place to post this, I'm just going to dump it here anyway.
How to program a custom layout to your Phantom on Windows:
1.   Download and Install WinAVR http://sourceforge.net/projects/winavr/
2.   Download and extract Hasu’s tmk_keyboard firmware https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard (Just click on the zip button if you don’t want to learn how to use git). This guide will be using hasu's firmware because it is the most feature rich (has multiple layers, nkro over usb, media keys, mouse keys, ect).
3.   browse to keyboard/phantom/ and open up keymap.c with your favorite text editor (WinAVR includes Programmers Notepad, which does a pretty good job).

Now the part you want to look at is this:
Code: [Select]
/* Layer 0: Default Layer
 *
 * ANSI:
 *
 * ,---.   ,---------------. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,-----------.
 * |Esc|   |F1 |F2 |F3 |F4 | |F5 |F6 |F7 |F8 | |F9 |F10|F11|F12| |PrS|ScL|Pau|
 * `---'   `---------------' `---------------' `---------------' `-----------'
 * ,-----------------------------------------------------------. ,-----------.
 * |~  |  1|  2|  3|  4|  5|  6|  7|  8|  9|  0|  -|  =|Backsp | |Ins|Hom|PgU|
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
 * |Tab  |  Q|  W|  E|  R|  T|  Y|  U|  I|  O|  P|  [|  ]|    \| |Del|End|PgD|
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
 * |Caps  |  A|  S|  D|  F|  G|  H|  J|  K|  L|  ;|  '|Return  | |???|???|???|
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
 * |Shift   |  Z|  X|  C|  V|  B|  N|  M|  ,|  .|  /|Shift     | |???|Up |???|
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
 * |Ctl|Gui|Alt|          Space                |Alt|Gui|App|Ctl| |Lef|Dow|Rig|
 * `-----------------------------------------------------------' `-----------'
 */

  KEYMAP(\
    ESC,  F1,  F2,  F3,  F4,  F5,  F6,  F7,  F8,  F9, F10,  F11,  F12,       PSCR, SLCK,  BRK, \
    GRV,   1,   2,   3,   4,   5,   6,   7,   8,   9,   0, MINS,  EQL, BSPC,  INS, HOME, PGUP, \
    TAB,   Q,   W,   E,   R,   T,   Y,   U,   I,   O,   P, LBRC, RBRC, BSLS,  DEL,  END, PGDN, \
    FN1,   A,   S,   D,   F,   G,   H,   J,   K,   L, SCLN, QUOT,       ENT,    0,    0,    0, \
    LSFT,       Z,   X,   C,   V,   B,   N,   M, COMM,  DOT, SLSH,      RSFT,   0,   UP,    0, \
    LCTL, LGUI, LALT,             SPC,                RALT, RGUI, APP, RCTL, LEFT, DOWN, RGHT),
The top half is just to give an idea of how the layout actually looks, and is not actually used. What you want to edit is the lower half which contains the actual keymap. The various key codes that you can use can be found in common/keycode.h note that you do not need to include the "KC_" as that is automatically added. Note that you can have up to 8 layers which can be added by copy and pasting more KEYMAP()s, and can be accessed by placing FN0-7 in your keymaps.

Additionally, if you want to change what your LEDs show, you can open up led.c and change either "USB_LED_CAPS_LOCK" or "USB_LED_SCROLL_LOCK" to "USB_LED_NUM_LOCK" if you want to track numlock instead.

One more thing to note. The current keymap.c is only configured for ansi layout. If you want 7bit or ISO layout, then some additional changes need to be made. For simplicity's sake, I've attached a separate keymap.c for 7-bit layout to this post. if you want to use ISO layout, then you can probably just use the 7bit layout while ignoring the extra keys. I've also attached the keymap that I am currently using so that you can have a better example of what you can do with the firmware.

4.   Now that we have our keymap the way we want it, its time to open up makefile.pjrc. Now scroll down to Build options. If you mapped any mousekeys in your layout then uncomment out "MOUSEKEY_ENABLE = yes   # Mouse keys" by deleting the "#" that is in front of the line.
if you want NKRO over usb then you can also uncomment out that line as well (note that to actually enable NKRO you need to hold both shifts and press 'n') Now save your changes.
5.   Now its time to actually compile our firmware. First rename Makefile.pjrc to just Makefile. Second, open a command prompt and browse to where your makefile is located (on windows vista and onward you can just hold shift, right click and select "Open command window here". From the command prompt, type "make" (obviously, dont include the ""s). Assuming all goes well, you should now have a compiled firmware hex with your custom layout. You can now program phantom_pjrc.hex to your teensy using the teensy loader http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/loader.html
6.   If you wish to rebuild the firmware, then from the command prompt, type "make clean" followed by "make"
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Fri, 21 December 2012, 15:53:00
Thank you for that post. Didn't think it'd be that hard and then can easily put a super button on a FN layer if I really want one.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 21 December 2012, 18:29:15
Put my order in. Excited to put together my own Phantom. :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Fri, 21 December 2012, 19:48:22
Question...is the only difference between a Phantom PCB + Teensy vs Filco PCB + ATmega32u4 bpiphany controller, the ability to run 1.5 mods, LED's, and the extra 5 keys above arrow?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 19:55:29
Yes, exactly. Well, also the famous Phantom Plate, but WFD had those for sale... ping him and see if he has extras?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:08:06
I've got a PHANSI125 here, courtesy of jdcarpe, so I could use that.  I'd like to try Tsangan layout, though...oh well, should have bought one from Dan when he listed them. 
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:08:47
If you can find a place to cut plates for you, the plate files are on DT. I'll find them if you'd like.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tmk1207 on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:10:08
update my address . please check a pm :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:11:14
Oh yeah?  Does it need to be CNC'd or Lasered? There's a good chance there's some facilities local to me that are capable of something like that...however I think I'd be more interested in getting some cases going :p
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:20:04
It's a sheet metal plate. If you can find a place to cut them, you can get a plate:) I don't recall what the thickness must be... let me check here... .060 for Costar Stabilizers and .0625 for Cherry, I think.
Plate files are the second post from Litster, here (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/phantom-custom-keyboard-group-buy-closed-t1411-180.html).
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:25:05
Do we have anyone setting up a plate GB? I think I could find such manufacturers in my area to serve those buying PCBs in this group buy (American made). Let me know if The Beast or anyone else is already working on plates now that this PCB GB is going.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:28:10
I talked to WFD and he said he will be making plates and to be on a lookout for them sometime soon.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:31:53
I talked to WFD and he said he will be making plates and to be on a lookout for them sometime soon.
OK, good to know. Now to finalize a case provider without ripping those from Filco TKLs.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gliy on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:33:48
Placed my order :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:41:29
I talked to WFD and he said he will be making plates and to be on a lookout for them sometime soon.
OK, good to know. Now to finalize a case provider without ripping those from Filco TKLs.
PLU cases will work as well...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:45:25
I've been talking to WFD and we might include plates in this GB if everything works out
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:49:49
Do we have anyone setting up a plate GB? I think I could find such manufacturers in my area to serve those buying PCBs in this group buy (American made). Let me know if The Beast or anyone else is already working on plates now that this PCB GB is going.
I talked to WFD and he said he will be making plates and to be on a lookout for them sometime soon.

Haven't had the chance to post much because I've been working overtime almost every day during these holiday seasons. Anyways, I'm designing new plates for these PCBs and should have time to finish them up this weekend. These plates fixes the problems in the old phantom plates. I'll post more about this later.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Amarok on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:50:31
I've been talking to WFD and we might include plates in this GB if everything works out

Sweet.
(http://i.imgur.com/Atqf2.png)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:51:31
Thanks WFD. I'm thinking Beast was going to offer them as well, so you two may want to talk about that, not sure.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 21 December 2012, 20:58:03
I can PM Beast about getting them made, but as far as designing them, I don't think he does that. He just passes the file on to some company to have them cut.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 21:01:45
I know he's good with CAD, so he could make modifications, if need be. :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Fri, 21 December 2012, 21:05:11
As long as the CAD files are available anyone can get them made.

I was going to seek out quotes but if someone is already doing so redundancy isn't effective here.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 21:07:15
I thought the same thing, but it was nice to have things shipped to my door
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 21 December 2012, 21:42:27
As long as the CAD files are available anyone can get them made.

I was going to seek out quotes but if someone is already doing so redundancy isn't effective here.

Well the old phantom plate files are available on DT, anyone can just have them made. But the reason why I'm making the plates over from scratch is because there were issues with 4 stabilizers that didn't allow top switch housing to be opened up, and the whole bottom half of the plate was slightly offset. Also the screw holes near the top needs to be shifted over by a fraction of a millimeter.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 December 2012, 21:46:55
You're doing great work WFD, please keep going forward. While you're at it, when you have time do you think you could make up a plate for the Pure? Also, I'm sure you're already doing it, but the GH60 plates should be fairly easy to design once you've got the revised Phantom plates, yes?

Again, thanks for all you do!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Fri, 21 December 2012, 22:25:31
It would be pretty cool if someone could try to get a case being designed. I think a lot of people are on the look out for one so that would probably be the last thing people would need for their phantom. Are cases really expensive if we were to draw one up and have it quoted to be made? I'm not sure so.. any thoughts?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 22:30:15
Yes cases are really expensive.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 21 December 2012, 22:40:53
I would definitely be in for a case. It'd be really cool to have a signature case for the Phantom the same way the KMAC has its own. I'd be really into an acrylic case.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Fri, 21 December 2012, 22:42:25
Are there CAD files for FILCO equivalent cases that work for the Phantom PCB? Perhaps with the amount of interest in this group buy something could be worked out for a nice metal case without costing so much... but I might be naive.

Also, placed my order (I think - still drunk).
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Fri, 21 December 2012, 22:53:16
I think utilizing some of the contacts I have, I could locate someone willing to mill cases for us. However, I'm not about to learn how to model a case, model it, get it perfect, then bring it to people just to see if its possible.

I suppose I could bring them an empty plastic filco and see if they can give a price estimate/help with design.

Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 22:54:43
There's a case in development... Look for it. :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Fri, 21 December 2012, 22:56:28
I kinda remember reading about it, aluminum?

I'd like a litster style one too.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Fri, 21 December 2012, 22:57:49
There's a case in development... Look for it. :)
So you are taking over, so to say, that one IC for the acrylic aluminum sandwich one? :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: netdevil on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:00:56
Yea I second a litster style one too those are beautiful  :eek:
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:15:52
There's a case in development... Look for it. :)

Tell us more! =D Umm. I think alu case would look cleanest, acrylic wouldnt feel as solid.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:18:24
There's a case in development... Look for it. :)

Tell us more! =D Umm. I think alu case would look cleanest, acrylic wouldnt feel as solid.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38360.0
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:19:56
There's a case in development... Look for it. :)

Tell us more! =D Umm. I think alu case would look cleanest, acrylic wouldnt feel as solid.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38360.0

Thanks nebo dude!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:20:05
There's a case in development... Look for it. :)
So you are taking over, so to say, that one IC for the acrylic aluminum sandwich one? :D
IF I have time... I'm getting my Phantom soon, so I'll have to check measurements.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:22:34
Aluminum cases look nice, but there's already the alu Filco case, and KMACs are alu as well. It's been seen and done time and time again. I think a more litster look would be quite nice for Phantoms.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:23:25
Aluminum cases look nice, but there's already the alu Filco case, and KMACs are alu as well. It's been seen and done time and time again. I think a more litster look would be quite nice for Phantoms.
alu cases feel much more solid.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:23:33
There's a case in development... Look for it. :)
So you are taking over, so to say, that one IC for the acrylic aluminum sandwich one? :D
IF I have time... I'm getting my Phantom soon, so I'll have to check measurements.
If is better than no. ATM I don't have time but if it comes to it I'm sure I could look in to some shops for quotes (I know nothing of this so if it was just bringing them CAD files and money I think I could handle a GB).
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:25:37
Aluminum cases look nice, but there's already the alu Filco case, and KMACs are alu as well. It's been seen and done time and time again. I think a more litster look would be quite nice for Phantoms.
alu cases feel much more solid.

I certainly wouldn't argue with that, I imagine it'd be hard to beat the feel of a alu case.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:37:42
We should make stainless steel ones...to give it some nice weight...maybe make one out of lead.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:40:12
We should make stainless steel ones...to give it some nice weight...maybe make one out of lead.
Stainless Steel cases would be nice, so long as they don't run several hundred dollars each. With the quantity of PCBs "sold" so far some sort of competitive case pricing should be had.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:41:31
We should make stainless steel ones...to give it some nice weight...maybe make one out of lead.
due im totally with you there

We should make stainless steel ones...to give it some nice weight...maybe make one out of lead.
Stainless Steel cases would be nice, so long as they don't run several hundred dollars each. With the quantity of PCBs "sold" so far some sort of competitive case pricing should be had.
thats probably what your looking at for a metal case....
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:44:35
thats probably what your looking at for a metal case....
yeah, with a small MOQ that would be the standard fare. Maybe with some aggressive research metal cases won't be an arm and a leg with a larger fill quantity.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:55:02
If it was running a couple hundred dollars for the case I'd have to be out, unfortunately. I think the steel case is a swell idea, but not all of us can afford luxuries like that.

That said, I do think that something like the Phantom does deserve something special to house it in. Certainly a stainless steel case would fill that role perfectly. It'd be very unique and overall a grand keyboard. Just a bit overpriced.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:57:07
If it was running a couple hundred dollars for the case I'd have to be out, unfortunately. I think the steel case is a swell idea, but not all of us can afford luxuries like that.

That said, I do think that something like the Phantom does deserve something special to house it in. Certainly a stainless steel case would fill that role perfectly. It'd be very unique and overall a grand keyboard. Just a bit overpriced.
just and idea i got my KMAC LE for 360$ non assembled and KMini for $400 assembled both those have alu case. this is just to give you all an idea of potential cost.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:03:46
just and idea i got my KMAC LE for 360$ non assembled and KMini for $400 assembled both those have alu case. this is just to give you all an idea of potential cost.
Well, you did import the case and KMAC which commands a hefty price being a more custom Korean board. I'm sure someone here can figure it out a good metal case option to keep it more cost effective. At those prices I would just buy a Topre HHKB or two and call it quits.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:07:31
I just took a look at this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38360.30) and I think it is just amazing. It's very unique and it could satisfy both the acrylic party and the alu party.

And yes, I'm aware that it was mentioned previously in this thread, I'm just a little late to the party. Haha :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:13:00
I think part of the reason cases cost so much is because they start off with 2 blocks of the desired metal (like aluminum) and a machine just takes off everything that's not needed. It seems a little inefficient since its wasting metal, and you're paying for it. I think if someone can come up with a good design from sheet metal it would probably be more affordable. I for one won't spend $200 or more on a metal case...it's just not within my budget
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:16:32
I think part of the reason cases cost so much is because they start off with 2 blocks of the desired metal (like aluminum) and a machine just takes off everything that's not needed. It seems a little inefficient since its wasting metal, and you're paying for it. I think if someone can come up with a good design from sheet metal it would probably be more affordable. I for one won't spend $200 or more on a metal case...it's just not within my budget
Wow, constructing from block metal is a huge waste. From that perspective the huge final costs per case makes sense. I'm sure we can get around that.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:20:03
The linked case would deal with the issue of cost on block metal. Sheet metal would be silly IMO for a keyboard case.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:24:04
I think thats how most of them are made at least ....I saw a video on youtube a while ago, I think it was a poker case being made.

The linked case would deal with the issue of cost on block metal. Sheet metal would be silly IMO for a keyboard case.

It does, but its also not full metal like some people would like. I actually really like the design though
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:30:30
The oneproduct aluminum case was bent and welded aluminum if I remember right.  It's nice, but doesn't have the standard slant that other cases have.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:36:41
I actually really like the design though

I do too. It looks pretty swell and you'd still at least get some of the feel of a metal case.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:36:42
The linked case would deal with the issue of cost on block metal. Sheet metal would be silly IMO for a keyboard case.

It does, but its also not full metal like some people would like. I actually really like the design though
Want and will buy are different. A lot of people wanted MKC's aluminum case but even when Feng said he could get it for $285 nobody really bit (this it stayed at $320 or whatever). I'd be down for a full aluminum cases and if priced not stupid I'd go for it, but with quantities we'll get + what people want to pay that is kind of hard. I doubt we'd get the precision needed bending aluminum.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 22 December 2012, 01:34:57
We should make stainless steel ones...to give it some nice weight...maybe make one out of lead.
Pb is ugly. If we want weight, we should do Iridium. :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Sat, 22 December 2012, 01:35:36
What about offering two options, full alluminum and part aluminum.
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 01:39:41
just and idea i got my KMAC LE for 360$ non assembled and KMini for $400 assembled both those have alu case. this is just to give you all an idea of potential cost.
Well, you did import the case and KMAC which commands a hefty price being a more custom Korean board. I'm sure someone here can figure it out a good metal case option to keep it more cost effective. At those prices I would just buy a Topre HHKB or two and call it quits.
case is part of the KMAC kit. And our pcb is actually more custom then theirs. And yes this isnt custom keyboard on the cheap especially if you want a custom case. My guess the $300 min price with a case wouldnt be far off and dont for get the extra cost of getting it assembled if you cant do it yourself.
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 01:41:19
I think part of the reason cases cost so much is because they start off with 2 blocks of the desired metal (like aluminum) and a machine just takes off everything that's not needed. It seems a little inefficient since its wasting metal, and you're paying for it. I think if someone can come up with a good design from sheet metal it would probably be more affordable. I for one won't spend $200 or more on a metal case...it's just not within my budget
yes that is how most of these are made and what they will probably cost due to raw material and manufacturing costs.
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 01:42:13
The linked case would deal with the issue of cost on block metal. Sheet metal would be silly IMO for a keyboard case.

It does, but its also not full metal like some people would like. I actually really like the design though
Want and will buy are different. A lot of people wanted MKC's aluminum case but even when Feng said he could get it for $285 nobody really bit (this it stayed at $320 or whatever). I'd be down for a full aluminum cases and if priced not stupid I'd go for it, but with quantities we'll get + what people want to pay that is kind of hard. I doubt we'd get the precision needed bending aluminum.
exactly!
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 01:44:18
What about offering two options, full alluminum and part aluminum.
find someone to design one or both then get enough people for each to get a reasonable price I dont think itll happen if we manage to get one design that fits we should stick to it so we can lower the cost for everyone.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 22 December 2012, 01:47:58
We should make stainless steel ones...to give it some nice weight...maybe make one out of lead.
Pb is ugly. If we want weight, we should do Iridium. :)

Definitely! Its only like $1000 an ounce, no biggie
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 22 December 2012, 08:46:40
Only depleted uranium is heavy enough for me.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Sat, 22 December 2012, 09:28:38
Only depleted uranium is heavy enough for me.

Iridium is still heavier... Actually heaviest of all only after osmium. Or there is actually some dispute to which one of them should be consider the heaviest.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 22 December 2012, 09:32:17
Only depleted uranium is heavy enough for me.

Iridium is still heavier... Actually heaviest of all only after osmium. Or there is actually some dispute to which one of them should be consider the heaviest.

Then, clearly iridium is too heavy for me, duh :P
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 22 December 2012, 09:36:30
Gold weights anyone?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 22 December 2012, 09:52:10
Nar, those be brass...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 22 December 2012, 10:17:18
Nar, those be brass...

I meant gold :D

19 grams per cubic cm :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 22 December 2012, 12:56:20
as a bit of a newbie to this whole hobby, is it a good thing to invest in this GB having someone else like Prof build it, while randomly aquiring all the parts needed for a full keyboard??

and while I know not everything I need is in this GB I'm assuming there will be follow ups with cases etc etc??

(sorry if this has already been asked, but I'm super curious and would love to try a properly programmable board :) )
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 13:04:05
as a bit of a newbie to this whole hobby, is it a good thing to invest in this GB having someone else like Prof build it, while randomly aquiring all the parts needed for a full keyboard??

and while I know not everything I need is in this GB I'm assuming there will be follow ups with cases etc etc??

(sorry if this has already been asked, but I'm super curious and would love to try a properly programmable board :) )
Ill be offering everything needed to put it together.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 22 December 2012, 13:07:46
as a bit of a newbie to this whole hobby, is it a good thing to invest in this GB having someone else like Prof build it, while randomly aquiring all the parts needed for a full keyboard??

and while I know not everything I need is in this GB I'm assuming there will be follow ups with cases etc etc??

(sorry if this has already been asked, but I'm super curious and would love to try a properly programmable board :) )
Ill be offering everything needed to put it together.

oh right, I didn't realise that lol (sorry miss-read your thread)... ok so I guess I have to place an order now! ^^

When you have prices up etc on your thread I'll have a better idea when I can afford/justify getting it all put together :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 13:41:36
as a bit of a newbie to this whole hobby, is it a good thing to invest in this GB having someone else like Prof build it, while randomly aquiring all the parts needed for a full keyboard??

and while I know not everything I need is in this GB I'm assuming there will be follow ups with cases etc etc??

(sorry if this has already been asked, but I'm super curious and would love to try a properly programmable board :) )
Ill be offering everything needed to put it together.

oh right, I didn't realise that lol (sorry miss-read your thread)... ok so I guess I have to place an order now! ^^

When you have prices up etc on your thread I'll have a better idea when I can afford/justify getting it all put together :)
yea working on it though idk if itll happen until after the holidays just due to me not being able to get ahold of people for pricing on things
Title: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Sun, 23 December 2012, 14:29:10
Those doing phansi150 phantoms should probably start ordering their tsangan kits if they are in key group buys...

/friendlyreminder
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: csimi on Sun, 23 December 2012, 14:47:13
Did anyone ever confirm if the Phantom fits into the MKC aluminium case?
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Sun, 23 December 2012, 14:59:27
Did anyone ever confirm if the Phantom fits into the MKC aluminium case?

From what I'm hearing, it does not
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 23 December 2012, 15:00:54
Just put in my order. Going to build mine using vintage blacks.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: csimi on Sun, 23 December 2012, 16:14:24
Did anyone ever confirm if the Phantom fits into the MKC aluminium case?

From what I'm hearing, it does not
That's a shame. Thanks for the info though.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Sun, 23 December 2012, 17:13:50
Those doing phansi150 phantoms should probably start ordering their tsangan kits if they are in key group buys...

/friendlyreminder


Good idea ^_^
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sun, 23 December 2012, 18:10:57
I've updated everything in post 2. I've also created a limited spreadsheet on google, it everyone's order info (Username, #PCBs, #controllers, and if its shipping to someone other than you) except private details like shipping info/emails:

http://goo.gl/6Z2Aa

Please use this to confirm that everything is correct. If not shoot me a PM and we'll fix it.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Sun, 23 December 2012, 20:56:35
ripster55 isn't a valid username here on Geekhack nor on Deskthority. You should delete their order! ;)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sun, 23 December 2012, 21:25:35
Oh, I have a feeling I know who it is haha
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 23 December 2012, 21:52:35
Yeah, no orders from Reddit! ;D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Sun, 23 December 2012, 22:25:48
not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask but if lets say i were to acquire one of these kits and this was my first time building would i be out of my mind or is this project just right?

I do know how to solder as i took some robotics clubs when i was young, and i make some repairs here and there to wires, though i've never made solders this small. i've never soldered diodes. i have not much experience de-soldering and i need to buy some new tools.

if this isn't appropriate to talk here if anyone is kind enough to PM me i would be grateful.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sun, 23 December 2012, 22:32:26
You can get a practice circuit board and cheap resistors/diodes at radio shack and practice on those first. Its not very hard at all, but will take some practice.

Something like this works great for desoldering switches:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062745

You can get desoldering braid for the finer stuff.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 23 December 2012, 22:36:44
Installing the Teensy is the trickiest part. That's how I killed my Phantom PCB, and why I really wanted this Round 2 to get off the ground. The diodes are simply tedious, not difficult. The switches are probably the easiest part.

The Phantom Instruction Guide can be found here: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_instruction_guide

Just follow the instructions very carefully. I got careless, and paid the price.

But, as bavman said, you may want to buy a small project kit to practice with first.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Sun, 23 December 2012, 23:43:29
For those that have ShipTo to a different user, is that for assembly services?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Sun, 23 December 2012, 23:52:31
Installing the Teensy is the trickiest part. That's how I killed my Phantom PCB, and why I really wanted this Round 2 to get off the ground. The diodes are simply tedious, not difficult. The switches are probably the easiest part.

The Phantom Instruction Guide can be found here: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_instruction_guide

Just follow the instructions very carefully. I got careless, and paid the price.

But, as bavman said, you may want to buy a small project kit to practice with first.

You know what, you only live once, i want to do this.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 December 2012, 00:18:53
And this time, I'm buying more than one PCB!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Mon, 24 December 2012, 00:23:17
I'm looking forward to see pictures of your Phantom popping up in the next couple months jdcarpe :D (especially with that nice case...)
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 00:31:28
For those that have ShipTo to a different user, is that for assembly services?
yes that what that would be for
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 December 2012, 00:43:36
I may end up sending one or more of mine to TheProfosist/WhiteFireDragon for assembly. I just don't have the time to be building keyboards, especially since I want to do one in 65g vintage blacks, lubed and stickered. I'm thinking 55g reds for another.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Mon, 24 December 2012, 01:09:17
Woo I'm planning 65g vintage black on Phantom and thinking 55g browns on GH60 :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 24 December 2012, 01:15:00
Damn, when is are you going to be done collecting orders? I'm on the fence about this, or getting 2-3 GH60s
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 December 2012, 01:19:06
Damn, when is are you going to be done collecting orders? I'm on the fence about this, or getting 2-3 GH60s

You know you need both. A TKL and a 60%. This GB will be done collecting payments about the time the GH60 GB opens, I would bet.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 24 December 2012, 01:35:39
Damn, when is are you going to be done collecting orders? I'm on the fence about this, or getting 2-3 GH60s

You know you need both. A TKL and a 60%. This GB will be done collecting payments about the time the GH60 GB opens, I would bet.


I already have a TKL, an SSK. I'm pretty sure I'll be getting rid of my poker once the GH60 is done and I'm also thinking of giving my mom my WASD. I don't need 100 keyboards like most of you guys, I just want 3 solid boards and I'd be happy.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: durainello on Mon, 24 December 2012, 02:22:14
Could someone care to explain the difference between a custom phantom vs a normal TKL with modded switches. This was the question my commanding officer at home was asking when she knew i am buying a new board. :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 24 December 2012, 02:25:10
NO DIFFERENCE, SIR!  :p :p

*to untrained eyes anyway*
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 December 2012, 02:30:40
Could someone care to explain the difference between a custom phantom vs a normal TKL with modded switches. This was the question my commanding officer at home was asking when she knew i am buying a new board. :D

Tell your CO that the difference is that the Phantom has customizable layouts, for instance ANSI 87-key, ANSI 86-key with 1.50 mods, ISO 88-key, ISO 87-key 1.50, etc. Also, the firmware is programmable, so you can have different layers, etc. You can have keys around the cursor arrows, below the "six pack," and you can have a full function row with no gaps.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 24 December 2012, 02:31:53
Could someone care to explain the difference between a custom phantom vs a normal TKL with modded switches. This was the question my commanding officer at home was asking when she knew i am buying a new board. :D

Tell your CO that the difference is that the Phantom has customizable layouts, for instance ANSI 87-key, ANSI 86-key with 1.50 mods, ISO 88-key, ISO 87-key 1.50, etc. Also, the firmware is programmable, so you can have different layers, etc. You can have keys around the cursor arrows, below the "six pack," and you can have a full function row with no gaps.

I think she likes a six-pack  :p :p
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 24 December 2012, 13:35:18
For those that have ShipTo to a different user, is that for assembly services?
yes that what that would be for
Hmm, need to get this fixed then, PMs away!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Amarok on Mon, 24 December 2012, 13:39:46
Yeah I need to get mine sent to Prof as well for assembly. Sending a PM now.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 24 December 2012, 14:38:29
Damnit... I didn't consider ISO layout. I've never had one, I think an ISO tsangan layout would be sweet. That will fit in a standard plastic filco case, right?

Ugh so now I'm considering two boards, one iso with 1.5 mods and one ANSI with 1.5 mods.

My GH60 will be iso hhkb layout...maybe a second of those too.

Too much money on custom boards and no money spent on custom cases! Arg
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 24 December 2012, 14:40:13
Problem exists that custom cases are annoying to design when you don't have the same version of CAD.
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Mon, 24 December 2012, 17:04:13
Problem exists that custom cases are annoying to design when you don't have the same version of CAD.

Even with CAD its a PITA
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Mon, 24 December 2012, 17:30:04
Just filled out for 2. Not doing this alone  :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 24 December 2012, 19:18:05
Problem exists that custom cases are annoying to design when you don't have the same version of CAD.

Even with CAD its a PITA

That's why I always save in an older version of AutoCAD/Solidworks/Inventor. 2004 for AutoCAD and 2008 for Solidworks. It makes life much simpler when sending files to other people who may not have the most up to date version of the program
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 24 December 2012, 21:39:52
Order placed.

Thanks
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: takaki on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:07:12
So where do we get the plates?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:08:04
I believe that Beast or WFD will be having a group buy. All in good time my friend, all in good time.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:13:33
So where do we get the plates?

I believe that Beast or WFD will be having a group buy. All in good time my friend, all in good time.

I will be offering WFD's plate design in my GB once the designs are complete and I have pricing. Also just to clarify plates and all other parts can be bought from my GB separately from the assembly services. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.0
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 25 December 2012, 11:51:49
Apologies for the cross-post, but I realized that the Klaxon add-on keycaps I am doing an [IC} for right now might also help Phantom buyers who like Klaxon and are planning some non-standard keys.

[IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race & Poker Keyboards -- Plus Phantom (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38563.0)

Here is a mock-up:

[attach=1]
Phantom mock-up with Klaxon, Red & White specials plus three matching Media Keys.

I won't cross-post here again, but I struck me that there might be other Phantom-builders besides me who like Klaxon colors.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Piehunter on Tue, 25 December 2012, 17:36:54
Apologies for the cross-post, but I realized that the Klaxon add-on keycaps I am doing an [IC} for right now might also help Phantom buyers who like Klaxon and are planning some non-standard keys.

[IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race & Poker Keyboards -- Plus Phantom (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38563.0)

Here is a mock-up:

(Attachment Link)
Phantom mock-up with Klaxon, Red & White specials plus three matching Media Keys.

I won't cross-post here again, but I struck me that there might be other Phantom-builders besides me who like Klaxon colors.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

wait....is a layout like this really possible with the phantom? cause that would be really awesome...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Tue, 25 December 2012, 17:40:33
Yes
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 25 December 2012, 18:50:01
Apologies for the cross-post, but I realized that the Klaxon add-on keycaps I am doing an [IC} for right now might also help Phantom buyers who like Klaxon and are planning some non-standard keys.

[IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race & Poker Keyboards -- Plus Phantom (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38563.0)

Here is a mock-up:

(Attachment Link)
Phantom mock-up with Klaxon, Red & White specials plus three matching Media Keys.

I won't cross-post here again, but I struck me that there might be other Phantom-builders besides me who like Klaxon colors.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

wait....is a layout like this really possible with the phantom? cause that would be really awesome...
yes but that not the optimal layout in my eyes at all.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Piehunter on Tue, 25 December 2012, 19:16:07
Apologies for the cross-post, but I realized that the Klaxon add-on keycaps I am doing an [IC} for right now might also help Phantom buyers who like Klaxon and are planning some non-standard keys.

[IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race & Poker Keyboards -- Plus Phantom (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38563.0)

Here is a mock-up:

(Attachment Link)
Phantom mock-up with Klaxon, Red & White specials plus three matching Media Keys.

I won't cross-post here again, but I struck me that there might be other Phantom-builders besides me who like Klaxon colors.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

wait....is a layout like this really possible with the phantom? cause that would be really awesome...
yes but that not the optimal layout in my eyes at all.

what would be your optimal layout?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Tue, 25 December 2012, 19:27:51
An IC is up for plates so we can decide material and get an idea on quantities for pricing:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38623.msg749317#new
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 25 December 2012, 19:53:29
yes but that not the optimal layout in my eyes at all.

I tried to make a mock-up using your Phantom plate as a guide, and ran out of keys to fill all of the slots.

What do you see on the extra eleven keys?  Also, since I think you only add two new key profiles (beyond the Race), I can add some of them to my Klaxon extras order.

Top row: +2
Tilde row: +1
Tab row:  n/c
ASDF row: + 4
ZXCV row: +4
Spacebar row: n/c

Please let me know what you'd put on those extra keys and I'll do a mock-up.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: salmo on Tue, 25 December 2012, 21:51:20
Don't know how I didn't see this until now.  Now to acquire stuff!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: simkev on Wed, 26 December 2012, 06:13:53
Will there be anyone handling European distribution?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:24:15
I have a question for those who have programmed the firmware before. Since the PCB is all the same, do I just use 0 for keys that I don't have or does it not matter since they can't be pressed anyways? Obviously trial and error will get it but less error is a good thing. :P
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 26 December 2012, 20:18:18
I've been trying to order switches and someone tipped me off to 7bit.  On his site he offers PCB mount switches and Plate mount switches.  I also read that with a plate you dont' have to solder the switches?  Am I reading this correctly? 

Questions:
1: Why do we have a plate and a PCB?
2: Which switches do we need, plate or PCB mounted?

Thanks
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 26 December 2012, 21:18:12
1. On the Phantom, the plate is used to mount the switches and keeps them stable while they are in use. Otherwise, they would only be held to the PCB using the electrical contacts.
2. With the Phantom, you need plate mounted switches. There are no holes in the PCB for PCB-mount switches. You can use PCB-mount switches only if you cut off the two plastic "legs" from the bottom of the switch before mounting.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:00:52
Does anyone know if there will be a GB for a Filco style case?

Im not a fan of the PLU-87 from the other GB :/ I cant afford the 300$ Aluminum Filco's either @_@
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:02:06
Does anyone know if there will be a GB for a Filco style case?

Im not a fan of the PLU-87 from the other GB :/ I cant afford the 300$ Aluminum Filco's either @_@
the plu is a filco style case whats wrong with it.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sai on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:03:19
mechanicalkeyboards.com has stock for vortex filco aluminium case. price is 150 usd without shipping fees
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:04:21
mechanicalkeyboards.com has stock for vortex filco aluminium case. price is 150 usd without shipping fees
sadly this will not fit a phantom.
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sai on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:06:28
mechanicalkeyboards.com has stock for vortex filco aluminium case. price is 150 usd without shipping fees
sadly this will not fit a phantom.
haha. thats bad for him then. :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:06:41
I'm not the biggest fan of the PLU-87 either.  I would prefer something with no labeling, very clean looking.  I do like the acrylic case that DanGWanG had, however I don't want something that shiny, attracts dust. 

What are our options for the cases? 
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:08:45
I'm not the biggest fan of the PLU-87 either.  I would prefer something with no labeling, very clean looking.  I do like the acrylic case that DanGWanG had, however I don't want something that shiny, attracts dust. 

What are our options for the cases?
you can remove the labeling or you can just use a filco case
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:09:29
Does anyone know if there will be a GB for a Filco style case?

Im not a fan of the PLU-87 from the other GB :/ I cant afford the 300$ Aluminum Filco's either @_@
the plu is a filco style case whats wrong with it.

This is it, yes?
http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/0/01/01af3933_vbattach219297.jpeg

Basiclly dont like the graphic and line that goes under the F Keys

A plastic version of this: http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34606.0;attach=2127;image

I may be making requests that are beyond what is available(i am new to this) especially for the right price, but i like the "minimalist" look of the MKC aluminum. I plastic version of it would be great, im sure one exists? I also like that there is no brand name/ logo on it and such.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:13:57
Umm the mkc was 300+ and yea you can have any case you want if you design it or somehow rope someone into designing one.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:14:21
The QFR cases are basically Filco cases except for the branding. I'm not sure about the availability, but some QFR have been shipping completely unbranded. That's probably your best bet for the cleanest case.

http://www.cmstorm.com/images/products/32/image_172.jpg
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:16:29
The QFR cases are basically Filco cases except for the branding. I'm not sure about the availability, but some QFR have been shipping completely unbranded. That's probably your best bet for the cleanest case.

http://www.cmstorm.com/images/products/32/image_172.jpg
i know WFD dragon says theyll fit but has anyone actually stuffed one in yet?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:17:50
Umm the mkc was 300+ and yea you can have any case you want if you design it or somehow rope someone into designing one.
I know man, thats just an option for me right now, trust me if i could afford it i would get it.

Im not gunna go that far for just a selfish need haha ill prob just settle with the plu for convenience sake.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:23:39
Just to clarify from what ive read the mkc case does not fit a phantom
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:25:49
The QFR cases are basically Filco cases except for the branding. I'm not sure about the availability, but some QFR have been shipping completely unbranded. That's probably your best bet for the cleanest case.

http://www.cmstorm.com/images/products/32/image_172.jpg
i know WFD dragon says theyll fit but has anyone actually stuffed one in yet?

I think he said you'd have to cut off one of the legs or something, but his new plate design is supposed to allow for it without needing to mod the case. I could have misread though so don't quote me
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 26 December 2012, 22:50:27
Does anyone make a stainless steel case?  Stainless Case + Stainless Plate, I'll have the heaviest keyboard on GH, and that actually appeals to me.  I like the weight, as I don't want it to move.

I'm half joking, but if a stainless case existed, I would defiantly but it.
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 23:16:53
Does anyone make a stainless steel case?  Stainless Case + Stainless Plate, I'll have the heaviest keyboard on GH, and that actually appeals to me.  I like the weight, as I don't want it to move.

I'm half joking, but if a stainless case existed, I would defiantly but it.
i want a ss as well but no ones designed one.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 26 December 2012, 23:17:14
**** yes!

Canada computers has the cherry green CM storm that doesnt have the label.

Just bought the second last one.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_273_274&item_id=056323

If anyone is interested in buying or trading the green switches for clears or ergo clears, PM me and we can arrange something
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 26 December 2012, 23:24:11
Milling steel is kind of a *****. However it can be used as a weight like you see in a lot of custom Korean boards
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 27 December 2012, 00:15:07
Does anyone make a stainless steel case?  Stainless Case + Stainless Plate, I'll have the heaviest keyboard on GH, and that actually appeals to me.  I like the weight, as I don't want it to move.

I'm half joking, but if a stainless case existed, I would defiantly but it.
i want a ss as well but no ones designed one.

So a SS case is possible?  How much would something like that go for?
Title: Re: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 December 2012, 00:41:43
Does anyone make a stainless steel case?  Stainless Case + Stainless Plate, I'll have the heaviest keyboard on GH, and that actually appeals to me.  I like the weight, as I don't want it to move.

I'm half joking, but if a stainless case existed, I would defiantly but it.
i want a ss as well but no ones designed one.

So a SS case is possible?  How much would something like that go for?
sure just as possible as aluminum probably more expensive.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Batmann on Thu, 27 December 2012, 10:08:51
I don't know about the SS case
For me an Alu case plus a SS plate is already heavy enough, it feels solid and it doesn't move but it's still possible to reposition without a forklift.
If there is no plan for a custom case with Treble, Oneproduct, imsto or anyone willing to carry this on maybe we could adapt the design of the PCB/Plate to fit in a Vortex case?
It's pretty good overall, not so expensive and it is supposed to be available soon in different colours...
What do you think?
Title: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 27 December 2012, 11:22:14
I'm not so sure about changing the PCB right now. The reason why bavman's GB has a somewhat early cut off date is because we have the design already and can make the order whenever. Modifying the design will take longer, with prototype fitting etc.

I don't think this aligns with the aim of this group buy. There is supposed to be a Phantom 2.0 in the future though.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: csimi on Thu, 27 December 2012, 11:23:21
I don't know about the SS case
For me an Alu case plus a SS plate is already heavy enough, it feels solid and it doesn't move but it's still possible to reposition without a forklift.
If there is no plan for a custom case with Treble, Oneproduct, imsto or anyone willing to carry this on maybe we could adapt the design of the PCB/Plate to fit in a Vortex case?
It's pretty good overall, not so expensive and it is supposed to be available soon in different colours...
What do you think?
If we ever go there I'd like to put a Phantom in my MKC case...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 28 December 2012, 07:16:44
are you aware of any tutorial about adding a bluetooth module to the teensy board? I made a google search but I can't find a comprehensive guide
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 29 December 2012, 05:28:13
are you aware of any tutorial about adding a bluetooth module to the teensy board? I made a google search but I can't find a comprehensive guide
i think you would have to redesign the teensy to make that work sadly
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 29 December 2012, 07:36:29
i think you would have to redesign the teensy to make that work sadly

I believe there are some ready to use BT hid modules for teensy, it's just that I can't find decent docs
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Sat, 29 December 2012, 08:00:54
I think you want some kind of serial interface to talk to a BT module. The Teensy has pins for UART which I think will do, but I really know nothing more about it...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 29 December 2012, 17:42:01
Only case I will begetting is the Lister Case!
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 29 December 2012, 18:01:23
Only case I will begetting is the Lister Case!
Not with that spelling! :P It's Litster.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 29 December 2012, 18:32:36
Only case I will begetting is the Lister Case!
Only case I will be^getting is the Lister Case!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 29 December 2012, 19:11:33
Only case I will be getting is the litster Case!

FTFY.

Good luck... You'll need it. Or deep pockets.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 29 December 2012, 19:38:58
Yeah, chances are, I'm not going to get it any time soon :))

Did you ever get the one you wanted SF?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 29 December 2012, 22:19:36
Only case I will be getting is the litster Case!

FTFY.

Good luck... You'll need it. Or deep pockets.

How expensive is the lister case?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Sat, 29 December 2012, 22:26:45
Only case I will be getting is the litster Case!

FTFY.

Good luck... You'll need it. Or deep pockets.

How expensive is the lister case?

I think it was the mid $100s when it was sold. Problem is not many were made and they're not in production (and never will be again like all awesome things).
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 29 December 2012, 22:31:36
Yeah, chances are, I'm not going to get it any time soon :))

Did you ever get the one you wanted SF?
I did not...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 29 December 2012, 22:32:41
Only case I will be getting is the litster Case!

FTFY.

Good luck... You'll need it. Or deep pockets.

How expensive is the lister case?

I think it was the mid $100s when it was sold. Problem is not many were made and they're not in production (and never will be again like all awesome things).

Stupid awesome inflation!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Sat, 29 December 2012, 22:38:59
Only case I will be getting is the litster Case!

FTFY.

Good luck... You'll need it. Or deep pockets.

How expensive is the lister case?

I think it was the mid $100s when it was sold. Problem is not many were made and they're not in production (and never will be again like all awesome things).

Stupid awesome inflation!
Inflation + stealing designs. :(
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: rindorbrot on Sun, 30 December 2012, 16:40:18
form filled for 1 PCB + Teensy
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:41:33
Hi guys,

I've updated the order worksheet. I've had to cancel and changes orders so just confirm I haven't made any mistakes :)
Send me a PM if i have

Orders (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjtaaflMO4z8dGhpampTc041dDVSa1FreVJPSXdDRVE#gid=0)
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:54:33
Hi guys,

I've updated the order worksheet. I've had to cancel and changes orders so just confirm I haven't made any mistakes :)
Send me a PM if i have

Orders (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjtaaflMO4z8dGhpampTc041dDVSa1FreVJPSXdDRVE#gid=0)
lol its whitefiredragon
but yea you can check with him but i believe his are being shipped to me now and ill distribute betwen builders with the parts needed build to save on shipping.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:56:33
That's what I meant lol just ignore my error :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tipo33 on Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:37:05
ordered one :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: r3dx on Mon, 31 December 2012, 19:16:15
Order placed.  :D

Thanks to everyone that made this possible!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Tue, 01 January 2013, 11:24:24
Is there a thread somewhere that consolidates the current information on which cases are compatible with Phantom builds?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Tue, 01 January 2013, 11:37:25
I know the filco and plu87 cases are compatible. WFD said that his new plate design will allow the QFR to also be compatible
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 01 January 2013, 12:00:09
I'm likely gonna order one today, so LAST MINUTE FTW
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: takaki on Tue, 01 January 2013, 12:03:59
Should I get one spare teensy ( Just in case?) ???????
Title: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Saviant on Tue, 01 January 2013, 12:08:59
Can I got my phantom sent to WFD please for assembly?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 01 January 2013, 12:19:39
I'm likely gonna order one today, so LAST MINUTE FTW

Thanks for reminding me when this closed :)

I was thinking I had longer to decide, BUT TOO LATE NOW, order placed!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:16:22
I'm likely gonna order one today, so LAST MINUTE FTW

Thanks for reminding me when this closed :)

I was thinking I had longer to decide, BUT TOO LATE NOW, order placed!

Any idea when this closes? Like what time zone defines "January Second"? Because where I am, it's 1:16 PM January 1st.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:23:14
Any idea when this closes? Like what time zone defines "January Second"? Because where I am, it's 1:16 PM January 1st.

Since time zones weren't specified, it's probably a 'soft' January 2nd, meaning if it's Jan 6th for you, don't try to place an order :p

Why not just place an order? It's not like you have to pay at this exact moment
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:32:27
Orders close NOW!








jk. I'll probably keep up the order form a day or so extra while I work out some technical details, but try to have your order in soon.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:39:26
Orders close NOW!








jk. I'll probably keep up the order form a day or so extra while I work out some technical details, but try to have your order in soon.

Just placed my order a few minutes ago. I was really nervous about having waited too long.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:41:31
Hope you guys don't forget to get a plate too...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: reverkiller on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:49:16
Any idea when payments will be due?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:51:13
Hope you guys don't forget to get a plate too...
I won't, but I'm not getting anything other than time-crucial stuff until Summer. Don't have time regularly to build a keyboard (even though it only takes a few hours), so I'm gonna build it over the summer, which will be just before my birthday. So unless the plates are time-crucial, then I'm gonna wait until the summer. :P
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:58:03
Hope you guys don't forget to get a plate too...
I won't, but I'm not getting anything other than time-crucial stuff until Summer. Don't have time regularly to build a keyboard (even though it only takes a few hours), so I'm gonna build it over the summer, which will be just before my birthday. So unless the plates are time-crucial, then I'm gonna wait until the summer. :P
WFD has a group buy going now, but you can always get your own cut. :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 01 January 2013, 14:06:07
Hope you guys don't forget to get a plate too...
I won't, but I'm not getting anything other than time-crucial stuff until Summer. Don't have time regularly to build a keyboard (even though it only takes a few hours), so I'm gonna build it over the summer, which will be just before my birthday. So unless the plates are time-crucial, then I'm gonna wait until the summer. :P
WFD has a group buy going now, but you can always get your own cut. :)
hes got a IC going. and Their probably going to be run though my GB with the rest of the parts.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 01 January 2013, 23:33:19
I know the filco and plu87 cases are compatible. WFD said that his new plate design will allow the QFR to also be compatible
But this PCB will not have the extra mounting holes for QFR case compatibility, right?
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Also, everyone should get 5 extra teensys. You can never have too many of those.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 01 January 2013, 23:51:04
I want to buy 2 extra teensy can you please update for me bavman? =D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: akuJIWA on Tue, 01 January 2013, 23:53:17
Bavman bro, I had just filled the form again, can I have my PCB + teensy sent to WFD? Thanks.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 01 January 2013, 23:57:58
I want to buy 2 extra teensy can you please update for me bavman? =D

Sorry to spam but can you please send it to WFD as well? So I can save the shipping for pcb and plates.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 02 January 2013, 00:03:03
Bavman bro, I had just filled the form again, can I have my PCB + teensy sent to WFD? Thanks.

So do you want to cancel your last order and keep the new one, or keep both and send the second to WFD?

I know the filco and plu87 cases are compatible. WFD said that his new plate design will allow the QFR to also be compatible
But this PCB will not have the extra mounting holes for QFR case compatibility, right?
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Also, everyone should get 5 extra teensys. You can never have too many of those.

I believe bpiphany is talking with WFD because we would need to modify the PCB to make it compatible. Hopefully it will be possible, we'll see what happens but it shouldn't interfere with our schedule

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Also the google doc containing everyones order is updated once again. Please check that you order #s are correct and if your getting your order shipping to WDF or TP it says so by your name. I've been doing a lot of deleting and modifying orders and I hope I didn't screw anything up. Let me know if I did.
Title: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Saviant on Wed, 02 January 2013, 02:33:31
Just checked my order and listing TP and not WFD as for sending it to, can I get that fixed please?

Thanks
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 02 January 2013, 02:54:30
Fixed that for you
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: korne on Wed, 02 January 2013, 03:29:47
I can't wait to get those PCB's yayaya :)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 02 January 2013, 04:09:46
Ok I just finished talking to bpiphany. All that needs to be done for compatibility with a CM quickfire case is to drill one hole in the PCB. It doesn't hit any switches or diodes, however the problem is that there are a few traces that run through that exact location. If a hole is drilled there, those few traces needs to be slightly rerouted. Rerouting is a large enough change to warrant prototyping again just to be safe, and this will delay the GB. So in the end, there won't be any changes to the PCB at all. In summary, the plate design itself is fully compatible with a CM case, but the PCB can't be a straight drop-in.

These pics shows what I'm talking about. The small red dot is what needs to be drilled out so the last standoff in the CM case can go through the PCB.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_IMG_2209-edited.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/IMG_2209-edited.png)


Here are some PCBs on top of each other. You can see Phantom and Filco have the same hole position, and the CM has the hole slightly offset. That offset location is the only difference.
blue = Filco
Green = CM quickfire
black = phantom
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_IMG_2216.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/?action=view&current=IMG_2216.jpg)




WORKAROUND

Since the PCB won't be changed, all you have to do is file down a few millimeters of the standoff until it's level with the bottom of the PCB. It's plastic so this should only take like 5 minutes. Here's a pic of the other side of a desoldered CM quickfire PCB mounted inside the case to help show where the standoff is and how much you'll have to shave off.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_IMG_2248.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/?action=view&current=IMG_2248.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_IMG_2249.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/?action=view&current=IMG_2249.jpg)


Carter said a replacement cases can probably be purchased separately so mod and replacement case might save you from buying a $150 Filco to use the case.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38102.msg736993#msg736993 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38102.msg736993#msg736993)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 02 January 2013, 04:16:41
Thanks for the update whitefiredragon
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 02 January 2013, 05:04:11
tremendously late, but I placed my order :) I'll try to build a bluetooth keyboard at last
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 02 January 2013, 08:02:23
Carter said a replacement cases can probably be purchased separately so mod and replacement case might save you from buying a $150 Filco to use the case.

I feel it's necessary to point out that Carter's original statement was about un-branded *top* frames, not complete cases. 

Still working hard on getting the brandless topcovers. Finished packaging this week, and will be ordering soon.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Wed, 02 January 2013, 13:06:04
Hi bavman, sorry could you update my order =) I would like it delivered to me instead as I want to build it myself.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 02 January 2013, 17:03:21
I can say my order looks good! Thanks for giving me an opportunity because I missed out on the original! Great product to delve deeper into a hobby!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 02 January 2013, 17:20:20
Dammit, caved and in for one
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: iArson on Wed, 02 January 2013, 17:41:21
Same :D
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 02 January 2013, 17:43:56
Are you going to start collecting money today?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: sleepy916 on Wed, 02 January 2013, 17:51:57
I couldn't resist any longer...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: akuJIWA on Wed, 02 January 2013, 18:48:32
I couldn't resist any longer...

Calm down, they will not be sending you straight away after you pay anyway.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 02 January 2013, 20:34:09
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Ok I just finished talking to bpiphany. All that needs to be done for compatibility with a CM quickfire case is to drill one hole in the PCB. It doesn't hit any switches or diodes, however the problem is that there are a few traces that run through that exact location. If a hole is drilled there, those few traces needs to be slightly rerouted. Rerouting is a large enough change to warrant prototyping again just to be safe, and this will delay the GB. So in the end, there won't be any changes to the PCB at all. In summary, the plate design itself is fully compatible with a CM case, but the PCB can't be a straight drop-in.

These pics shows what I'm talking about. The small red dot is what needs to be drilled out so the last standoff in the CM case can go through the PCB.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_IMG_2209-edited.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/IMG_2209-edited.png)



Here are some PCBs on top of each other. You can see Phantom and Filco have the same hole position, and the CM has the hole slightly offset. That offset location is the only difference.
blue = Filco
Green = CM quickfire
black = phantom
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_IMG_2216.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/?action=view&current=IMG_2216.jpg)





WORKAROUND

Since the PCB won't be changed, all you have to do is file down a few millimeters of the standoff until it's level with the bottom of the PCB. It's plastic so this should only take like 5 minutes. Here's a pic of the other side of a desoldered CM quickfire PCB mounted inside the case to help show where the standoff is and how much you'll have to shave off.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_IMG_2248.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/?action=view&current=IMG_2248.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_IMG_2249.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/?action=view&current=IMG_2249.jpg)


Carter said a replacement cases can probably be purchased separately so mod and replacement case might save you from buying a $150 Filco to use the case.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38102.msg736993#msg736993 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38102.msg736993#msg736993)

That would probably be the best option for someone on a budget, and for me would serve as a nice temporary case while I save up for an Aluminum case :P
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: sleepy916 on Wed, 02 January 2013, 20:54:09
I couldn't resist any longer...

Calm down, they will not be sending you straight away after you pay anyway.

I thought I was calm.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 02 January 2013, 20:55:55
While taking some PCB/case compatibility pics for bpiphany, I also took some Phantom PCB action shots while I'm at it. This is the highest quality keyboard PCB I've worked with. Either on par or a tad higher than KMACs. It's simply a beautiful work of art, and even has some simi-hidden phrases and phantom mask. Here are some PCB pr0n shots of what you'll be receiving:


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB2.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB2.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB3.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB3.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB4.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB4.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB5.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB5.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB6.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB6.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB7.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB7.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB8.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB8.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB9.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB9.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB10.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB10.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB11.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB11.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB12.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB12.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB13.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB13.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/th_PhantomPCB14.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom/PhantomPCB14.jpg)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 02 January 2013, 20:57:09
While taking some PCB/case compatibility pics for bpiphany, I also took some Phantom PCB action shots while I'm at it. This is the highest quality keyboard PCB I've worked with. Either on par or a tad higher than KMACs. It's simply a beautiful work of art, and even has some simi-hidden phrases and phantom mask. Here are some PCB pr0n shots of what you'll be receiving:

As someone who is trying to design his first PCB, what makes is so high quality :x
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Wed, 02 January 2013, 21:01:48
While taking some PCB/case compatibility pics for bpiphany, I also took some Phantom PCB action shots while I'm at it. This is the highest quality keyboard PCB I've worked with. Either on par or a tad higher than KMACs. It's simply a beautiful work of art, and even has some simi-hidden phrases and phantom mask. Here are some PCB pr0n shots of what you'll be receiving:

i am getting pretty excited now, man....I'm trying to learn to be patient but its really really hard.........
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: oluf on Wed, 02 January 2013, 21:06:40
While taking some PCB/case compatibility pics for bpiphany, I also took some Phantom PCB action shots while I'm at it. This is the highest quality keyboard PCB I've worked with. Either on par or a tad higher than KMACs. It's simply a beautiful work of art, and even has some simi-hidden phrases and phantom mask. Here are some PCB pr0n shots of what you'll be receiving:

Great pics! Thanks!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 02 January 2013, 21:16:17
"Blessed be thee who double shot perty plastics"

OK PCB! Time to come to daddy!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: theultrazord on Wed, 02 January 2013, 21:18:06
Either on par or a tad higher than KMACs.

It makes me sad that we are doing a GB for such a nice PCB but there is no high quality case to go with it to compete with other custom boards. Though thank you guys for working hard on the PCB GB, plates, services etc. I'm looking forward to pictures of everyone's customs.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 January 2013, 21:56:58
Either on par or a tad higher than KMACs.

It makes me sad that we are doing a GB for such a nice PCB but there is no high quality case to go with it to compete with other custom boards. Though thank you guys for working hard on the PCB GB, plates, services etc. I'm looking forward to pictures of everyone's customs.

Don't worry. It's in the works...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 January 2013, 21:59:15
... even has some simi-hidden phrases and phantom mask.

Ahh, yes. But bpiphany told me that I was the first to email him at the address screen printed on the PCB, before it was released even. :P
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 02 January 2013, 22:10:01
Either on par or a tad higher than KMACs.

It makes me sad that we are doing a GB for such a nice PCB but there is no high quality case to go with it to compete with other custom boards. Though thank you guys for working hard on the PCB GB, plates, services etc. I'm looking forward to pictures of everyone's customs.

Don't worry. It's in the works...

Can you see if there is a stainless steel option for a case?  I'll pay extra.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 02 January 2013, 22:17:17
While taking some PCB/case compatibility pics for bpiphany, I also took some Phantom PCB action shots while I'm at it. This is the highest quality keyboard PCB I've worked with. Either on par or a tad higher than KMACs. It's simply a beautiful work of art, and even has some simi-hidden phrases and phantom mask. Here are some PCB pr0n shots of what you'll be receiving:

As someone who is trying to design his first PCB, what makes is so high quality :x

When I was in school I had to design a few PCB's for senior projects.  I learned using this free software.  You'll likely have to make all your own custom footprints.
free software: http://www.freepcb.com/

The good thing about free PCB is that you can have them produce your design.  I'll warn you though.  No ones first PCB comes out working.  At least if you're trying to make anything with even a little complexity.  With a keyboard you don't have to worry about angles in the trace or width or anything (high speed problems), so it should be relatively easy, but I could be wrong. 

You can make them higher quality by the material you use.  General is FR4, standard in a lot of circuits, but if you have money you can upgrade the material.  Shouldn't be necessary for a keyboard though.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 02 January 2013, 23:08:58
I really wish I knew how to design PCBs. I really liked teaching myself about ICs and logic gates and all that stuff but its all theoretical, I have no idea how to implement it into real work solutions. I don't even know what diodes/capacitors do :D

To the people asking about payments, I will close the order form in about 24 hours, after that I'll start sending invoices out, and I hope everyone will have paid theirs within 7 days of receiving it (preferably sooner). The google doc in post 2 isn't 100% up to date so if you pm'd me recently it might not be reflected there. I'll update it before invoices go out. Please make sure you double-check your order is correct so we can catch any mistakes that were made.

Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: akuJIWA on Wed, 02 January 2013, 23:15:04
I really wish I knew how to design PCBs. I really liked teaching myself about ICs and logic gates and all that stuff but its all theoretical, I have no idea how to implement it into real work solutions. I don't even know what diodes/capacitors do :D

To the people asking about payments, I will close the order form in about 24 hours, after that I'll start sending invoices out, and I hope everyone will have paid theirs within 7 days of receiving it (preferably sooner). The google doc in post 2 isn't 100% up to date so if you pm'd me recently it might not be reflected there. I'll update it before invoices go out. Please make sure you double-check your order is correct so we can catch any mistakes that were made.

Thanks everyone!

Thank you for your great work, sir!
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 03 January 2013, 00:22:07
I really wish I knew how to design PCBs. I really liked teaching myself about ICs and logic gates and all that stuff but its all theoretical, I have no idea how to implement it into real work solutions. I don't even know what diodes/capacitors do :D

To the people asking about payments, I will close the order form in about 24 hours, after that I'll start sending invoices out, and I hope everyone will have paid theirs within 7 days of receiving it (preferably sooner). The google doc in post 2 isn't 100% up to date so if you pm'd me recently it might not be reflected there. I'll update it before invoices go out. Please make sure you double-check your order is correct so we can catch any mistakes that were made.

Thanks everyone!

To design a PCB for a keyboard you don't have to know much about circuit design.  I'm willing to bet your lack of knowledge about circuit components wouldn't prevent you from success.  Take this keyboard for instance, all the stuff you REALLY need to worry about is in the controller, and that is already designed.  All this PCB seems to do is house the controller and the switches, and rout the trace from all the switches to the controller.  After that you just have to get the dimensions correct for through holes and such. 

If you played around with that software and watched the videos I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take longer than a couple days to learn what you're doing.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 03 January 2013, 01:30:17
There is another major difference with the Phantom/QFR PCB, the screw hole appears to be centered on the phantom, and is offset on the QFR to account for the USB inlet. This can be seen from the pictures, below.

Fortunately, it seems like it won't adversely affect anything here 'cause it looks to be pretty well exactly level with where the PCB will sit. You won't be able to screw the case together, but anyone who's taken apart a QFR case will know it holds itself together pretty well with all the clips.

(http://i.imm.io/Ru1V.jpeg)
(Phantom and QFR PCB's)


(http://i.imm.io/Ru26.jpeg)
Phantom next to QFR Case


(http://i.imm.io/Ru24.jpeg)
Upside-up next to QFR Case. Note the hole location.




Bytheway, the phantom PCB is really excellent. I especially like the words printed on the ground plane. Here's a crummy picture to hilight this.
(http://i.imm.io/Ru29.jpeg)
Sweet printing on the phantom PCB. (Taken at angle with flash 'cause the letters are slightly sunk in)

(Reason I took the QFR Apart again: To get a closer look at that left alt. Still no idea why it's not working. Gonna grab the DMM and look at it tomorrow)
http://i.imm.io/Ru3d.jpeg


----

Bavman, I learned a ton about transistors and suchlike in my nanotechnology class. It really made me want to DIY an E-beam lithographer (Out of a CRT was the plan) to make my own MOSFETs, but then I got busy with keyboards.

Also, I wish I could buy 2 (or 10) but I recently needed to pour money into my bike for some much-needed maintenance. :(
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Thu, 03 January 2013, 01:45:31
Man I really wanted two, but a recent registration fee to the DMV and a ticket made it so I could barely grab one. :/ if I've got 24 hours though I'll see if I can sell some computer parts real quick and grab a second board+teensy. At least I've got a week? to get the money for the plates

Very excited for my first phantom, and thanks to everyone involved! Greatly appreciated.

Edit: Just thought of this...I've got a set of PBT Engraved key caps, full 104, hardly used.  If anyone wants to buy me a PCB and Teensy I'll send it to them  :p
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 03 January 2013, 01:59:19
Here, I'll beat you to the photos because I already know what you're talking about. The large standoff (green circle) you're talking about is the one towards the top middle that's a little bit offset. But since the PCB just sits right on top of it, you don't actually need a hole in the PCB for that one to put the screw through. And you're right, there are just too many traces there to put a hole there so I didn't even mention it. But bpiphany and I did talk about that one. The case has 8 tabs (red rectangles) that holds that top cover very secure with the bottom cover, so you don't actually need a screw through the standoff and case.

The smaller standoff (blue circle) between the Caps and "A" key however, is higher and goes through the PCB so the plate sits on top, that's why a hole there is needed. If no new holes are placed, then you just simply have to file that standoff so the PCB rests on top of it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_edited-1.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/?action=view&current=edited-1.png)


Filco case for comparison
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_FilcoCase-edited.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/?action=view&current=FilcoCase-edited.png)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 03 January 2013, 02:01:21
That was not my experience just now when I test fit the phantom into the QFR case. I'll try it again (I hope you're right) but I don't think it's workable.

Good to know you two are being thorough as always.
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Edit: after some careful measuring, it looks like the "bump" for the screw hole is level with where the PCB will sit, so all you should have to do is deal with that standoff. I'll edit my earlier post to reflect this.

This is pretty great news. I thought that screw hole would adversely impact things for QFR owners like me.



Side note: What size wire should I use to repair/replace PCB traces? I broke the internal USB connector off the back of my QFR PCB (Stupid one-sided nonsense!) and now I seed to solder new wires from the controller to it. Also, is stranded or solid core better for this sort of thing? Feel free to PM me so this doesn't get off track.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 03 January 2013, 02:12:14
If you try to test the phantom PCB fit with the CM case right now, it's not going to work because of the small standoff near the Caplock.  The larger top standoff (where the screw goes into) however will be fine for the phantom because it doesn't need to go through the PCB. This pic below shows that 4 smaller standoff going straight through the PCB, but that large one is still below the PCB. The hole there is only for the single standoff from the top cover to come through and screwed down. You actually don't need it to the screwed down.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_CM1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/CM1.jpg)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 03 January 2013, 02:18:00
Side note: What size wire should I use to repair/replace PCB traces? I broke the internal USB connector off the back of my QFR PCB (Stupid one-sided nonsense!) and now I seed to solder new wires from the controller to it. Also, is stranded or solid core better for this sort of thing? Feel free to PM me so this doesn't get off track.
Wire size that's 24AWG or finer. Either solid core or stranded should be ok. Stranded might be easier to work with, but if you have too much slack after soldering, it'll flop around in there so just make you don't have too much excess wire in there. Solid core will stay put even with a little bit of excess wire. I repaired a diode trace with solid core, haven't tried stranded yet.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Thu, 03 January 2013, 06:18:36
Great photos =) I'm saving those away...

Designing a keyboard PCB really isn't too hard. It gets a bit tricky combining different layout options in the same package. There is a TON of different coordinates to keep track of... And measuring the case and original PCB also takes some care. And figuring out where to stow away the Teensy =P You don't really need to know much about electronics - I sure didn't ; )

And then there is of course the task of littering the PCB with easter eggs and tributes. I had a lot of time to do this while no-one was taking on all the practical aspects of running a group buy. And there is a lot of spare room on a keyboard PCB =D

I would highly recommend KiCAD. It takes a bit to learn but it is really powerful, and looks like it had a lot more work put into it than that freepcb program. KiCAD sure has some quirks, but there is also help to get online. I had a design guide back in the old GH days, and I sort of started one on the deskthority wiki, but that is far from finished...
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: mashby on Thu, 03 January 2013, 07:53:14
DorkVader -- for what it's worth, OpenDNS (http://opendns.com) won't allow me to see the photos you posted because it has the hosting site listed as a phishing site. Just thought you should know.

Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 03 January 2013, 08:01:52
This makes me excited for the camo QFR I got in a trade from Ovoxo. That's definitely taking a Phantom now! Thanks for all the great work, gents.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Thu, 03 January 2013, 12:22:21
bavman, If it is not too late, i wanted to add an extra Teensy to my order (making total = 3)

Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Thu, 03 January 2013, 12:47:25
No problem.

Also google doc sheet is updated as of now
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Soulpyre on Thu, 03 January 2013, 14:53:43
Sorry for the last minute order, I tried to resist but gave in. =X
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 00:02:29
Either on par or a tad higher than KMACs.

It makes me sad that we are doing a GB for such a nice PCB but there is no high quality case to go with it to compete with other custom boards. Though thank you guys for working hard on the PCB GB, plates, services etc. I'm looking forward to pictures of everyone's customs.

Don't worry. It's in the works...

Can you see if there is a stainless steel option for a case?  I'll pay extra.
i want SS too
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 00:06:13
Also if anyone is interested i took some i quality shots and scans of the phantom PCB their in my google drive
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 04 January 2013, 00:43:02
And were closed! Invoices should start going on in the next couple days
Title: Re: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 00:52:19
And were closed! Invoices should start going on in the next couple days
change the title of the thread ;)
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 04 January 2013, 01:17:31
Where can 7bit plates be acquired?
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 04 January 2013, 01:23:11
What do want from the 7bit plate that PRF125 doesn't have? If you're going to say the bottom row, make sure you plan carefully and you really want it. I bought the original 7bit plate but couldn't find a use for it because of that bottom row. I have one, so I'll offer mine up for grabs when time comes for all the plate stuff.

Profosist didn't find it practical either, that's why that bottom row was modified to his own layout.
Title: Re: [Collecting Orders] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 04 January 2013, 01:29:58
Prf125? I would like the 7bit bottom row and numpad. Is there one similar to it but better than that being offered?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 04 January 2013, 01:35:12
Just looked at the dt wiki. The 125 is the standard modifiers with the larger numpad right? Does that many of you not like 7bit modifier? I could see it being useful for gaming or macro keys? Is 7bit that bad?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: phetto on Fri, 04 January 2013, 01:35:58
When do we have to pay?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Fri, 04 January 2013, 03:09:47
When do we have to pay?

And were closed! Invoices should start going on in the next couple days

I'd say when you get the invoice you should pay it within 24 hours.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: m_enanos on Fri, 04 January 2013, 06:00:55
just wondering, what makes this custom made keyboards that special? Fully programmable? Built quality?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 04 January 2013, 06:03:27
It makes you more geeky. Own one, then you can get rid of all your branded keyboards.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 04 January 2013, 06:58:13
just wondering, what makes this custom made keyboards that special? Fully programmable? Built quality?

What makes it special is whatever you want to be special about it. You put it in the case you want, give it what cable you want, put keys where you want them and make them do what you want, put what switches you want on it, decide if it's gonna be PCB or plate mounted. It's your keyboard, it's just as special as you are.

Not to mention it's pretty cool to be able to say that it's unbranded. Someones asks "What keyboard is that?" you answer "Mine." Each Phantom is completely unique. Though to be honest, most of us will probably be doing standard 87-key layouts. Myself included.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 04 January 2013, 10:41:49
just wondering, what makes this custom made keyboards that special? Fully programmable? Built quality?

What makes it special is whatever you want to be special about it. You put it in the case you want, give it what cable you want, put keys where you want them and make them do what you want, put what switches you want on it, decide if it's gonna be PCB or plate mounted. It's your keyboard, it's just as special as you are.

Not to mention it's pretty cool to be able to say that it's unbranded. Someones asks "What keyboard is that?" you answer "Mine." Each Phantom is completely unique. Though to be honest, most of us will probably be doing standard 87-key layouts. Myself included.

I'm going for an 86 key layout...preferably in an unbranded case. This has options. I'm also thinking about adding 5 macros above the arrow keys. Why I haven't seen anyone else think of this, I don't know, but having 5 macros that you can edit in the Teensy firmware is nice, and it saves space. If you're gonna have macros, might as well have them appeal to the aesthetic of the keyboard, right?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 January 2013, 10:50:52
I'm going for an 86 key layout...preferably in an unbranded case. This has options. I'm also thinking about adding 5 macros above the arrow keys. Why I haven't seen anyone else think of this, I don't know, but having 5 macros that you can edit in the Teensy firmware is nice, and it saves space. If you're gonna have macros, might as well have them appeal to the aesthetic of the keyboard, right?

Support my plate design in the IC! Link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38623.0) It has a 1.0-unit key to the right of the 1.75-unit R_SHIFT, for use as Fn-key. Bottom row is 1.50-unit mods with 7x spacebar (like 86-key). Split BackSpace. Then you get 2 more keys on the F-row, and the 5 keys above the cursor arrows. 8 extra keys!

(http://i.imgur.com/jIPof.png)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 04 January 2013, 10:55:21
When do we have to pay?

I'll start sending invoices by the end of today, or tomorrow morning. I'd like everyone to try to pay as soon as possible, but in absolutely no more than 7 days.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: xavierblak on Fri, 04 January 2013, 11:12:55
Just looked at the dt wiki. The 125 is the standard modifiers with the larger numpad right? Does that many of you not like 7bit modifier? I could see it being useful for gaming or macro keys? Is 7bit that bad?

I'm with you on this. I'm also hoping to get a 7bit plate with my phantom. I see it being useful for gaming so I can get some modifier keys under my thumb. On a standard keyboard I can really only hit two keys (space and alt). Those extra keys that the 7bit layout gives you look like a great way to increase your options.

Of course I've never used this layout but I don't see the down side other than a smaller space bar.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:24:17
What do want from the 7bit plate that PRF125 doesn't have? If you're going to say the bottom row, make sure you plan carefully and you really want it. I bought the original 7bit plate but couldn't find a use for it because of that bottom row. I have one, so I'll offer mine up for grabs when time comes for all the plate stuff.

Profosist didn't find it practical either, that's why that bottom row was modified to his own layout.

Prf125? I would like the 7bit bottom row and numpad. Is there one similar to it but better than that being offered?

Just looked at the dt wiki. The 125 is the standard modifiers with the larger numpad right? Does that many of you not like 7bit modifier? I could see it being useful for gaming or macro keys? Is 7bit that bad?

Just looked at the dt wiki. The 125 is the standard modifiers with the larger numpad right? Does that many of you not like 7bit modifier? I could see it being useful for gaming or macro keys? Is 7bit that bad?

I'm with you on this. I'm also hoping to get a 7bit plate with my phantom. I see it being useful for gaming so I can get some modifier keys under my thumb. On a standard keyboard I can really only hit two keys (space and alt). Those extra keys that the 7bit layout gives you look like a great way to increase your options.

Of course I've never used this layout but I don't see the down side other than a smaller space bar.

here are the new plates that WFD is talking about http://tinyurl.com/crus5ch

and yes I had 2 keyboards with the 7bit plate the bottom row was a pin in my ass so I gave it an ANSI standard bottom row, kwhich gives you all the advantages of the 7bit plate but without 4 spacebars (in my case)

yo ushould really think over what your going to use the extra keys in the biottom row for in my case it was nothing if yo really nthink youll use them I also have a extra original 7bit plate.

Also dont forget that you wont be able to find any space bars that small so youll be using standard keys which feel mighty weird on the thumb.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:30:25
Although it looks like it from the PCB pics I just wanted to confirm whether or not we can use original Cherry 7x spacebars without modding the offset stems.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:36:49
Although it looks like it from the PCB pics I just wanted to confirm whether or not we can use original Cherry 7x spacebars without modding the offset stems.
From what I can tell the PCB supports 5 different layouts without any modding, and 1.50x mods (which use 7x Spacebars) are definently supported.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:39:02
Although it looks like it from the PCB pics I just wanted to confirm whether or not we can use original Cherry 7x spacebars without modding the offset stems.
From what I can tell the PCB supports 5 different layouts without any modding, and 1.50x mods (which use 7x Spacebars) are definently supported.

Right, but can we place the center spacebar switch in an offset position such that the 7x Cherry spacebars are directly compatible? How about the 6.25x offset spacebars?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:42:17
Although it looks like it from the PCB pics I just wanted to confirm whether or not we can use original Cherry 7x spacebars without modding the offset stems.
From what I can tell the PCB supports 5 different layouts without any modding, and 1.50x mods (which use 7x Spacebars) are definently supported.

Right, but can we place the center spacebar switch in an offset position such that the 7x Cherry spacebars are directly compatible? How about the 6.25x offset spacebars?
pertaining the plate supports it, the PCB does for sure.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:43:19
Although it looks like it from the PCB pics I just wanted to confirm whether or not we can use original Cherry 7x spacebars without modding the offset stems.
From what I can tell the PCB supports 5 different layouts without any modding, and 1.50x mods (which use 7x Spacebars) are definently supported.

Right, but can we place the center spacebar switch in an offset position such that the 7x Cherry spacebars are directly compatible? How about the 6.25x offset spacebars?
That I'm not sure about without modding
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:45:56
Cherry 7 Space has a centered stem
Cherry 6.25 Space has an off centered stem (cannot fit on Filco, Ducky, CM etc).

Yes you will be able to make Cherry compatible Phantoms if you build it the right way.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:23:41
And the current offerings of phansi150 and phiso150 plates support original cherry, correct?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:29:52
Cherry 7 Space has a centered stem
Cherry 6.25 Space has an off centered stem (cannot fit on Filco, Ducky, CM etc).

Yes you will be able to make Cherry compatible Phantoms if you build it the right way.

I thought Filco used 6.26 Space?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:38:13
Cherry 7 Space has a centered stem
Cherry 6.25 Space has an off centered stem (cannot fit on Filco, Ducky, CM etc).

Yes you will be able to make Cherry compatible Phantoms if you build it the right way.

I thought Filco used 6.26 Space?

Filco, etc. use a standard 6.25-unit spacebar with a centered stem. Cherry 6.25-unit spacebars have an off-centered center stem, thus making them incompatible with "modern" keyboards. :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:41:44
I support you supporting jdcarpe's plate. I would love one of those.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:42:41
And the current offerings of phansi150 and phiso150 plates support original cherry, correct?
Yeah. they use the original 1.50x mods from days of yore, so they use the spacebar from days of yore (measuring 7x. make sure it's a 7x spacebar. Wish they made them in metal. great way to add to the look of an aluminum cased keyboard with red caps.)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:45:28
All this talk of other layouts is making me want to use the full right hand column. Only thing stopping me is getting a good case that supports it and proper keys. Have some nice DS on the way so I wouldn't want to use WASD on the remaining 5.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:50:17
I am seriously consider taking a dremel to my litster case...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:51:00
All this talk of other layouts is making me want to use the full right hand column. Only thing stopping me is getting a good case that supports it and proper keys. Have some nice DS on the way so I wouldn't want to use WASD on the remaining 5.
I know i'm using the full right column, but it's just adding a few programmable keys. If there was an extra row, then I would go numberpad, but there isn't. Plus I need my Insert/delete combo.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:51:20
PUT THE DREMEL DOWN, MOOSE!

If you're going to hack away at it, I'll just buy it from you and send you a Filco case or something...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:52:04
Cherry 7 Space has a centered stem
Cherry 6.25 Space has an off centered stem (cannot fit on Filco, Ducky, CM etc).

Yes you will be able to make Cherry compatible Phantoms if you build it the right way.

I thought Filco used 6.26 Space?

Filco, etc. use a standard 6.25-unit spacebar with a centered stem. Cherry 6.25-unit spacebars have an off-centered center stem, thus making them incompatible with "modern" keyboards. :)

I thought the Cherry was just reference to the profile. 

I ordered two aluminum spacebars from feng here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38703.0

I ordered the cherry 6.25, did I order the wrong part?  I want to put these on my Filco and Ducky that both use the same SB.


I also want an aluminum SB to fit the phantom that I'm building.  Which one should I buy for this?  In the interest check, I think I ordered the first two plates.
Which plate should I order if I want to be able to put standard keys on it?  I'm not against custom layouts, and I think it would be cool.  I just want to be able to put keycaps on my keyboarrd. 

For all you guys that are making non standard layouts, where do you plan on getting keys for your boards?  the only small SB I've seen is on the Leopold 700.

Thanks
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:55:31
For the purpose of feng's GB, "Cherry" refers to the profile height.

For an ANSI150 plate, you need a 7x spacebar. For ANSI125, you need 6.25x.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:57:15
PUT THE DREMEL DOWN, MOOSE!

If you're going to hack away at it, I'll just buy it from you and send you a Filco case or something...

+1
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 04 January 2013, 14:07:24
I really like the case. I tried talking to litster and seeing if it might be possible to have just one top layer created in the layout I'm looking for, but he is really busy and isn't interested in doing so. And that's fine and understandable. But I'm really looking at using that case for the Phantom I want to build...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Fri, 04 January 2013, 14:13:53
Would he consider giving his files of the original case? I know there was some drama with MKC and him about copying designs.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Fri, 04 January 2013, 14:22:20
Would he consider giving his files of the original case? I know there was some drama with MKC and him about copying designs.
Most likely not, people have asked already
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pasph on Fri, 04 January 2013, 15:33:38
Someone knows if HPE cases are compatible with Phantom PCB/Plate?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Fri, 04 January 2013, 18:54:10
My only question is where am I going to get a nice ISO set.  I'm trying ISO 150 as one of my layouts since I've never had ISO before. 
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 04 January 2013, 20:56:42
My only question is where am I going to get a nice ISO set.  I'm trying ISO 150 as one of my layouts since I've never had ISO before.
Depends on what color you want. If you're a little wild, then Klaxon is a good way to go. Get a Base, mods, tsangan, and ISO kit. Maybe a bit pricey, but you can't go wrong with doubleshots.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 04 January 2013, 20:59:28
Invoices are currently going out for this, yes?
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:30:33
I am seriously consider taking a dremel to my litster case...
yea thats whay i didnt buy one when they came out
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:35:36
I didn't get an invoice?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:37:11
I didn't get an invoice?
He said tonight or tomorrow morning. he might just not have sent them out yet.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:38:19
I am seriously consider taking a dremel to my litster case...
yea thats whay i didnt buy one when they came out
I bought one and I AM going to Dremel it. I buck the trends and cut them up.
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:44:55
I'm seriously here begging you not to cut it. I will give you cash for it right now,  or I'll buy the Phantom with it complete. I'll trade you this clear MKC acrylic case that you can cut up, even. Not joking.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:57:51
I wish I could buy that MKC case... :C
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:01:03
Can I say I'm not a fan on the Lister case, I don't like acrylic that much (seems easy to scratch) and I don't like how the bolts aren't counterbored (which I doubt you could do with an acrylic that thin)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:07:26
Can I say I'm not a fan on the Lister case, I don't like acrylic that much (seems easy to scratch) and I don't like how the bolds aren't counterbored (which I doubt you could do with a acrylic that thin)
HERESY!? I don't see why you can't not like something others don't. Fine by me.

I'm sorry, jdcarpe, but I gotta do what I gotta do...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:35:42
Well, the offer is on the table. You let me know when you're ready. :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:56:31
Please at least make a laser out of a dvd birner and use that to cut it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: litster on Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:59:17
149 PCBs?  Amazing!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: theultrazord on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:00:35
I'm sorry, jdcarpe, but I gotta do what I gotta do...

I actually really want to see pictures of this when its done.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:00:45
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?



SS litster case anyone?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:07:35
If you could make an aluminum top layer that I could anodize black, that would be amazing.
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:08:53
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?



SS litster case anyone?
dude im in
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:10:14
If you could make an aluminum top layer that I could anodize black, that would be amazing.

I'm sure that could be done
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:13:21
I hope litster might here our cries of case love...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:02:24
If you could make an aluminum top layer that I could anodize black, that would be amazing.

I'm sure that could be done

Does this mean you're doing a case Beast? 
Im also not a fan of acrylic, but because it attracts dust.  I'm sure you would have plenty of eager customers.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:08:48
If you could make an aluminum top layer that I could anodize black, that would be amazing.

I'm sure that could be done

Does this mean you're doing a case Beast? 
Im also not a fan of acrylic, but because it attracts dust.  I'm sure you would have plenty of eager customers.

I don't have the files to cut it. I'm working on a Gh60 case, but not a phantom case
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:11:31
Is it really that difficult to design a case, or is it the production of it, or what? With the talent I've seen here its surprising to me that no ones designed an aluminum or ss one.

I admit I know little about the process, and maybe if I did known more I'd consider venturing out and attempting to design one?

Any suggestions where to start? Is the difficulty getting the files transferred from AutoCAD or whatever design program, into CNC machine code?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:12:41
People are designing cases. The problem is so many people want so many things. It gets hard to even consider what to start with and to get enough people to want to stick with one thing
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:14:38
Oh I see. I'm a fairly simple guy, and all I'd want personally is a standard filco case in aluminum or ss lol but 285+ for mkc one is way out of my budget
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:16:11
That's another problem. People don't want to pay for what they want.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:16:19
My only question is where am I going to get a nice ISO set.  I'm trying ISO 150 as one of my layouts since I've never had ISO before.
Depends on what color you want. If you're a little wild, then Klaxon is a good way to go. Get a Base, mods, tsangan, and ISO kit. Maybe a bit pricey, but you can't go wrong with doubleshots.

Wouldn't consider my key cap preference wild. I like "vintage" style, WYSE, Cherry beige, coffee, etc.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:20:11
That's another problem. People don't want to pay for what they want.

Is the cost really that much though, or is it more of the first of what you mentioned... And there's only a handful of them being run so the machinest is charging an arm and a leg? The reason being, as you said, everyone wants something different?

I also figured importing it added some to cost, and with how reluctant people are to release designs, they gotta be making a buck off it?

Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:22:50
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?
I asked... he said no.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:30:55
lol you guys shouldn't pressure litster to hand over his file of the case. He's seen this thread, and if he wanted to share them, he will. If not, then just understand that these take a long time to design and cost money to prototype, as well as all the other little things that come with making a product a reality from blueprints.

Everyone wants a nice case for a custom project like this, but I'm betting most won't be willing to pay for it. Just be realistic with prices. It'll cost you anywhere from $200 - $350 for a metal CNC case. The Vortex aluminum case was dirt cheap for $150, and it was clear the quality reflected this. The cost of the actual material is not much, but the time required to program the CNC machine and cutting time on the machine is very expensive. Stainless steel would be very nice, but even less practical for your wallet.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:40:53
I'm sorry. I never personally meant to pressure him at all, and if anything I said seemed like that, I apologize. It was just a question of curiosity.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:51:40
lol you guys shouldn't pressure litster to hand over his file of the case. He's seen this thread, and if he wanted to share them, he will. If not, then just understand that these take a long time to design and cost money to prototype, as well as all the other little things that come with making a product a reality from blueprints.

Everyone wants a nice case for a custom project like this, but I'm betting most won't be willing to pay for it. Just be realistic with prices. It'll cost you anywhere from $200 - $350 for a metal CNC case. The Vortex aluminum case was dirt cheap for $150, and it was clear the quality reflected this. The cost of the actual material is not much, but the time required to program the CNC machine and cutting time on the machine is very expensive. Stainless steel would be very nice, but even less practical for your wallet.
Out of curiosity, how much does it cost doing methods like having a top and bottom aluminum (or SS) piece with acrylic in the center? Is the cost mostly in milling time/quantity or material I guess is what I'm asking.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: rindorbrot on Sat, 05 January 2013, 07:18:29
Even if you got the files from litster, you would still have to modify them in order to make them from Alu or SS.
Because the case is originally made out of non-conductive Acrylic there are no PCB-standoffs or similar in the design as far as I know.

But I'd be definitely interested in a metal case, if somebody would do one.

I would try to design one myself, but I got no CAD software that I know how to use and also I don't have any good case as inspiration (or a Filco case for exact measurements for the standoffs).

But I have a local shop that can do CNC and lasercutting which I know the owner of, so if anyone maybe has a design ready, but no place to get them made... ;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 05 January 2013, 07:58:00
lol you guys shouldn't pressure litster to hand over his file of the case. He's seen this thread, and if he wanted to share them, he will. If not, then just understand that these take a long time to design and cost money to prototype, as well as all the other little things that come with making a product a reality from blueprints.

Everyone wants a nice case for a custom project like this, but I'm betting most won't be willing to pay for it. Just be realistic with prices. It'll cost you anywhere from $200 - $350 for a metal CNC case. The Vortex aluminum case was dirt cheap for $150, and it was clear the quality reflected this. The cost of the actual material is not much, but the time required to program the CNC machine and cutting time on the machine is very expensive. Stainless steel would be very nice, but even less practical for your wallet.

I'm willing to pay for it. It's a matter of if my family's willing to let me pay that much for an aluminum case. I calculated my price based on between 200 and 300, so I'm good.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Sat, 05 January 2013, 08:47:12
What about 3d printing cases?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 05 January 2013, 09:01:01
What about 3d printing cases?
That might work, though I would be concerned about the structural integrity of it and the strength of the material. If the material type can't handle being the lower receiver of an AR-15, then I'm not sure I really want a keyboard made out of it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 10:02:32
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?
I asked... he said no.

I was just asking, no pressure to release his files at all. Designing a case isn't as simple as you would think, he as a lot of time invested in it so he may want to make money on it, or keep others from making money on it. I understand ^___^
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 05 January 2013, 12:29:25
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?
I asked... he said no.

I was just asking, no pressure to release his files at all. Designing a case isn't as simple as you would think, he as a lot of time invested in it so he may want to make money on it, or keep others from making money on it. I understand ^___^
Yeah, I understand too. I asked a while back of he would, but to no avail. Oh well:)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Soulpyre on Sat, 05 January 2013, 14:04:38
Does anyone know if the invoices have started going out?
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Sat, 05 January 2013, 14:14:04
Does anyone know if the invoices have started going out?

I have yet to receive an invoice. Just wait a few days, usually it takes a week to get things sorted before distribution.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 05 January 2013, 14:14:51
Does anyone know if the invoices have started going out?

Nope, not yet, I'm going to start send them out very soon (today). Just working out some shipping stuff.

Here is my final shipping costs:
US      
1      $8
2      $10
3      $10
4      $10
5      $12
6      $12

Int      
1      $13
2      $15
3      $17
4      $20
5      $22
6      $24

I'm just going to keep shipping straight across to board for convince.

Also if your order is going to TP or WFD, you will be charged a smaller shipping fee. The shipping fee will be calculated by getting the cost it will take for TP/WFD's orders (~15 boards) and distributing it evenly amongst all the people shipping to them. Will be about $3/board
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 17:49:13
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?
I asked... he said no.

I was just asking, no pressure to release his files at all. Designing a case isn't as simple as you would think, he as a lot of time invested in it so he may want to make money on it, or keep others from making money on it. I understand ^___^
Yeah, I understand too. I asked a while back of he would, but to no avail. Oh well:)

That's why I was informal and just asked in here. If I was pressuring, I would have sent an angry PM (full of mad kittenz)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 05 January 2013, 17:50:36
I've had better luck with angry Gerbils, thought be had... ;)
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: __red__ on Sat, 05 January 2013, 19:07:08
How did I miss this group buy !

If anyone wants out or there are spares, someone please hook me up ;)

Thx
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 05 January 2013, 20:39:32
How did I miss this group buy !

If anyone wants out or there are spares, someone please hook me up ;)

Thx
Man. Glad I got my order in. It's gonna be a happy year!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 05 January 2013, 22:43:06
How did I miss this group buy !

If anyone wants out or there are spares, someone please hook me up ;)

Thx

I did order a spare.  If I don't botch my first one, I'll try to remember you. :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 05 January 2013, 22:43:49
So, I haven't been following this at all really, is there going to be a new set of plates made?

EDIT: found (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38623)

Now I just need a case...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Sat, 05 January 2013, 22:46:25
So, I haven't been following this at all really, is there going to be a new set of plates made?

There essentially has to be in order for these orders to complete their builds. There are no holes on the PCB to accommodate stabilizers if I read the information correctly earlier.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Sat, 05 January 2013, 23:16:25
paid  :) I am freaking excited!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: reverkiller on Sat, 05 January 2013, 23:28:33
invoiced n paid!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: theultrazord on Sat, 05 January 2013, 23:59:41
Paid here. I really want to try some neat things with this PCB.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 06 January 2013, 00:01:03
I didn't realize the invoice would be from Paypal for some reason. All paid!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Sun, 06 January 2013, 00:04:03
Paid and waiting!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: reality404 on Sun, 06 January 2013, 00:17:55
Paid. Thanks can't wait.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Sun, 06 January 2013, 00:42:03
Paid, thanks again!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: phetto on Sun, 06 January 2013, 01:31:08
paid.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: daerid on Sun, 06 January 2013, 01:39:42
paid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: korne on Sun, 06 January 2013, 01:50:12
Paid :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Sun, 06 January 2013, 02:19:35
Paid, now the wait begins.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Amarok on Sun, 06 January 2013, 02:19:42
Paid.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: NikoGasm on Sun, 06 January 2013, 02:23:14
Mine is all paid for.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sun, 06 January 2013, 02:31:08
Okay all invoices should be out finally. Thanks to everyone whose paid already, and I hope everyone will be able to do so promptly so we can proceed quickly.

If you have any questions/concerns about your invoice please pm me and I'll be happy to help
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 06 January 2013, 02:33:12
invoice received and promptly paid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Sun, 06 January 2013, 03:19:09
Paid as well
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: t2russo on Sun, 06 January 2013, 04:03:05
In the words of Waka Flocka "Olesdoit"
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pasph on Sun, 06 January 2013, 05:16:04
Where is my invoice?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: rindorbrot on Sun, 06 January 2013, 05:30:18
received invoice, paid.
Now back to the waiting game... :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 06 January 2013, 05:52:59
Paid yo
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sleabo on Sun, 06 January 2013, 06:11:10
Paid
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Saviant on Sun, 06 January 2013, 06:29:34
Paid as well
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: snoopy on Sun, 06 January 2013, 06:49:53
Paid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Amr0d on Sun, 06 January 2013, 07:03:03
Paid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: phetto on Sun, 06 January 2013, 07:04:50
If we say that every payment has been done by monday, how long would it take for us to get the items?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: mashby on Sun, 06 January 2013, 09:20:44
Paid.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Sun, 06 January 2013, 10:22:48
Paid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hoggy on Sun, 06 January 2013, 11:36:11
Paid.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: maxmalkav on Sun, 06 January 2013, 11:48:01
Paid :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Dgsbllx on Sun, 06 January 2013, 12:33:57
Paid, don't come again!  ;D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sun, 06 January 2013, 14:27:41
Just got home from work, paid!

Cant waitt!! :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Piehunter on Sun, 06 January 2013, 14:45:34
paid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tipo33 on Sun, 06 January 2013, 15:35:02
Paid! :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: obtxo on Sun, 06 January 2013, 15:52:58
Paid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 06 January 2013, 16:08:52
Paid, and there should be a round 3 for those of us that want to get more but can't pay all at the same time. :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Broadmonkey on Sun, 06 January 2013, 16:10:16
Paid
Anybody got a pic of the esc part of the PCB? I am considering a few holes for some leds if there is room for it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: salmo on Sun, 06 January 2013, 16:22:50
paid.  I'm excited I'll finally have one of these that I can play with the firmware on :).
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: simkev on Sun, 06 January 2013, 16:24:27
Paid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: akuJIWA on Sun, 06 January 2013, 16:48:37
Paid, thank you.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Soulpyre on Sun, 06 January 2013, 17:08:35
Paid for my updated order
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: r3dx on Sun, 06 January 2013, 17:29:03
Paid. :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 06 January 2013, 17:29:26
Paid.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: xavierblak on Sun, 06 January 2013, 22:14:45
All paid up!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: sleepy916 on Sun, 06 January 2013, 23:11:57
Just saw it, paid!
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Sun, 06 January 2013, 23:21:34
Paid. Thanks for all the effort everyone.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 06 January 2013, 23:42:29
The controllers will be $18 for now, and I'll bump it down to $16 if we hit 100.
My invoice has the teensy for $17. I know it is only a couple of dollars, and if it is for the shipping only that is cool, but I don't think it will cost $180 to ship them all. If I missed something in the thread I'm sorry, tried to read it all and I'm kind of tired.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Oproer on Mon, 07 January 2013, 02:16:32
Paid!

thanks! So excited!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: oluf on Mon, 07 January 2013, 11:01:49
Status: Paid with PayPal on January 7, 2013 at 8:38 AM PST

Thank you for organizing this GB! =)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 07 January 2013, 11:18:04
I almost declined the teensy on my invoice (it was marked as optional) and ordered them directly from PJRC, but finally decided that it wasn't worth the trouble.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 07 January 2013, 11:56:41
$16 was the discounted price from pjrc, but i forgot to account for shipping when I had written that update a while ago
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 07 January 2013, 15:26:01
$16 was the discounted price from pjrc, but i forgot to account for shipping when I had written that update a while ago
So how much does it cost to ship one box of 180 Teensies? Probably not $180. I figured you would have just baked the Teensy shipping price into the other shipping price.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Mon, 07 January 2013, 15:31:21
Probably a mistake...PM time? No need to blow up his spot yo
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 07 January 2013, 15:32:11
U MAD BRO?

I think bavman's prices are fine. If he makes a few bucks in the end, so be it. :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 07 January 2013, 15:36:15
Just see it as a "handling" fee. Running a GB and dealing with the logistics is no fun. Processing payment, printing addresses, packaging all the stuff, and taking it all to the post office takes more time than you'd think. Controller was suppose to be $18 anyways, so in the end you save a buck and bavman gains a buck. Win-Win.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Germiphene on Mon, 07 January 2013, 15:40:27
Paid!  Can't wait to get this baby started  ;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 07 January 2013, 15:49:29
I understand that and I'm not trying to make a big deal out of an ant hill. When a thread says one thing it needs to stick to it, or just change what it says, or make it clear where the discrepancy lies. If I just arbitrarily decided one extra dollar was ok to charge on almost everything in my Toxic group buy I could make hundreds of dollars easily, but that is not what group buys are about. When i3oilermaker charged extra for the meth keys instead of the $.41-.51 a piece for the keys he changed his prices to the group buy price. $1 wasn't going to break the bank, it is just being honest, accountable, and with all the information for everyone to see. That is how you run a solid, reliable group buy and there is no harm in helping people learn to run the best group buy possible to improve everyone's experiences.

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 07 January 2013, 16:04:35
I'm confused, in the OP is says:

A Teensy 2.0 controller with header pins----Available through his GB for $18 per

I got charged $17 which sounds like I'm winning here.


EDIT:
Read the update #1, I'm stupid.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 07 January 2013, 16:23:31
I understand that and I'm not trying to make a big deal out of an ant hill. When a thread says one thing it needs to stick to it, or just change what it says, or make it clear where the discrepancy lies. If I just arbitrarily decided one extra dollar was ok to charge on almost everything in my Toxic group buy I could make hundreds of dollars easily, but that is not what group buys are about. When i3oilermaker charged extra for the meth keys instead of the $.41-.51 a piece for the keys he changed his prices to the group buy price. $1 wasn't going to break the bank, it is just being honest, accountable, and with all the information for everyone to see. That is how you run a solid, reliable group buy and there is no harm in helping people learn to run the best group buy possible to improve everyone's experiences.

I'm sorry I didn't update you guys until someone caught that, I just wanted to cover all my bases because there's so much money going around in a group buy that if I make a small mistake it adds up and I can be out $100+ at the end.

Also unrelated, I had some people ask me about customs charges, and I'll put a low enough value on them so no ones gets charged with extra customs fees
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 07 January 2013, 16:37:55
I understand that and I'm not trying to make a big deal out of an ant hill. When a thread says one thing it needs to stick to it, or just change what it says, or make it clear where the discrepancy lies. If I just arbitrarily decided one extra dollar was ok to charge on almost everything in my Toxic group buy I could make hundreds of dollars easily, but that is not what group buys are about. When i3oilermaker charged extra for the meth keys instead of the $.41-.51 a piece for the keys he changed his prices to the group buy price. $1 wasn't going to break the bank, it is just being honest, accountable, and with all the information for everyone to see. That is how you run a solid, reliable group buy and there is no harm in helping people learn to run the best group buy possible to improve everyone's experiences.
I like the way you think. Good man.  :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Mon, 07 January 2013, 21:58:06
(Finally) Paid. Thanks for doing this for the people (like me) who weren't around last time. Very excited about getting it (Because one of my friends has already asked for pics of it, and I just want to see it in person. Looks very cool!)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: ElTwig on Mon, 07 January 2013, 22:04:02
paid.  Thanks for all the effort.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: FabsSpeed on Tue, 08 January 2013, 00:16:44
Hello!

I know i am Late, but any Chance in ordering two more bords?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 08 January 2013, 01:37:09
I think i got the invoice but idk cause it doesnt say anything about a phantom in the email i got.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 08 January 2013, 02:03:45
Does anyone know where we can buy switches in bulk? Don't say 7bit because I already know that. He gets the switches somewhere so it might be more cost effective if we put in a large order for switches directly from a distributor. I'm thankful that 7bit is offering switches, but shipping them in a timely manner is anyone's guess so I would like to eliminate this factor as well. 171 PCBs will require a lot of switches, and it will deplete his current stock. That means those that couldn't get their order in to him will be forced to wait a while or buy another keyboard to desolder switches.
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 08 January 2013, 02:05:34
Does anyone know where we can buy switches in bulk? Don't say 7bit because I already know that. He gets the switches somewhere so it might be more cost effective if we put in a large order for switches directly from a distributor. I'm thankful that 7bit is offering switches, but shipping them in a timely manner is anyone's guess so I would like to eliminate this factor as well. 171 PCBs will require a lot of switches, and it will deplete his current stock.
umm dude currently offering switch in my gb for the phantom...

But hey if you can get me better pricing somewhere else go for it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 08 January 2013, 02:14:01
Ah I total missed that  ^-^ . When I glanced at them, I thought they were directly from 7bit. They all look even cheaper than 7bit's price except for the red switches. Are these from a US distributor? What's the MOQ?

Quote
$0.60 - MXRED   (MX1A-L1NN)
$0.80 - MXDARKGREY   (MX1A-21NN)
$0.60 - MXBROWN   (MX1A-G1NN)
$0.60 - MXCLEAR   (MX1A-C1NN)
$0.60 - MXBLUE   (MX1A-E1NN)
$0.60 - MXWHITE   (MX1A-A1NN)]
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 08 January 2013, 02:17:52
Moq i belive is stated in the thread possibly as a note but its just 1000 switches total.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 08 January 2013, 06:56:03
Moq i belive is stated in the thread possibly as a note but its just 1000 switches total.
I would love to get Green switches if you could get some.
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 08 January 2013, 09:37:24
Moq i belive is stated in the thread possibly as a note but its just 1000 switches total.
I would love to get Green switches if you could get some.
currently cant get them but ill ask right before i put the form up.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 08 January 2013, 12:47:17
Does anyone know where we can buy switches in bulk? Don't say 7bit because I already know that. He gets the switches somewhere so it might be more cost effective if we put in a large order for switches directly from a distributor. I'm thankful that 7bit is offering switches, but shipping them in a timely manner is anyone's guess so I would like to eliminate this factor as well. 171 PCBs will require a lot of switches, and it will deplete his current stock. That means those that couldn't get their order in to him will be forced to wait a while or buy another keyboard to desolder switches.

I would like some clears, and springs to make ergo cleard, if you put in the order.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 08 January 2013, 13:24:51
Paid. I hope we can get some cool custom aluminum cases for these. Maybe someone can get in contact with who ever makes the LZ and KMAC aluminum cases.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 09 January 2013, 11:17:13
I would like some clears, and springs to make ergo cleard, if you put in the order.

If you are hoping to just order springs alongside your clears, I would say that you are out of luck, I have yet to find a place to just get springs (apart from Koreans) your best bet is to get someone to trade their red/brown/blue springs with your clears.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: oluf on Wed, 09 January 2013, 11:43:50
The modern whites should be very similar to the greens..

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_White
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Wed, 09 January 2013, 15:18:05
Paid!!!

Thanks
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 09 January 2013, 15:43:24
The modern whites should be very similar to the greens..

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_White
Whites, as I've heard, are soft and mushy. I want Greens. >:(

I'm stubborn, but I want greens. If you look at the Cherry MX Guide on Deskthority, they say that Whites are a soft click while Greens are a firm click.

EDIT: I meant Firm click for Greens...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Wed, 09 January 2013, 19:17:56
The modern whites should be very similar to the greens..

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_White
Whites, as I've heard, are soft and mushy. I want Greens. >:(

I'm stubborn, but I want greens. If you look at the Cherry MX Guide on Deskthority, they say that Whites are a soft click while Greens are a soft click.

If they both have a soft click what's the problem?!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 09 January 2013, 19:24:54
Greens are very much a firm click.  Supposedly either the material or leg length of the whites makes them different.  But greens really just feel like blues with a black spring.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 09 January 2013, 19:44:57
Greens are very much a firm click.  Supposedly either the material or leg length of the whites makes them different.  But greens really just feel like blues with a black spring.

and I WON'T go for Ghetto Greens...too mainstream looking
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 09 January 2013, 20:11:26
So you type without keycaps?  Or do you regularly strip down your board for show and tell?
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 09 January 2013, 20:22:46
Do you regularly strip down for show and tell?
Seldom. :))
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Wed, 09 January 2013, 20:26:53
So you type without keycaps?  Or do you regularly strip down your board for show and tell?

That is a bummer, though.  I forget whose boards they were, maybe Tsangan, but it was two litster cases - one blue and one red, with matching blue and red switches respectively... it looked awesome, but once caps are on it, no one will ever know  :-\
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 09 January 2013, 20:33:07
Aye, twas Tsangan. :) Also sold a DKSaver and an MKC V1 clear acrylic case with a Filco with browns inside. If i remember correctly, the blue Phantom had a white switch for the Esc. (Brain is in overdrive mode, sorry)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Wed, 09 January 2013, 20:48:23
The clear acrylic would look good with a phantom PCB, but not with the stock green Filco PCB

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Wed, 09 January 2013, 21:46:44
Filco PCB is blue IIRC
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 09 January 2013, 21:56:36
Filco PCB is blue IIRC
Not all of them:)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Wed, 09 January 2013, 23:34:02
now with payment paid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 10 January 2013, 17:07:50
Is there going to be a deadline for payments or are we waiting for a set number to come in?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Thu, 10 January 2013, 20:37:07
I would like to have everyone have their invoice paid within 1 week of receiving it. I talked to a couple people who won't be able to pay till later, but thats okay and shouldn't interfere with our timeline.

We're at about 22/118 invoices unpaid
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 10 January 2013, 22:20:44
Hey bavman did you see this yet? 5% off if you just publicize for them (facebook, twitter, or google). With 170ish PCBs ordered, 5% will save you $300, which you can pocket or donate to GH.

http://www.pcbwing.com/Surprise.php
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Thu, 10 January 2013, 22:28:12
We're at about 22/118 invoices unpaid

21/118 :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Thu, 10 January 2013, 22:32:57
Hey bavman did you see this yet? 5% off if you just publicize for them (facebook, twitter, or google). With 170ish PCBs ordered, 5% will save you $300, which you can pocket or donate to GH.

http://www.pcbwing.com/Surprise.php

Cool I'll definitely ask when I place the order
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sai on Sat, 12 January 2013, 03:29:30
if anyone has an extra and willing to part, please tell me. I'll gladly pay for it. I was an idiot for not ordering in the given time frame.  :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: okooko on Sat, 12 January 2013, 03:52:40
Paid also woo
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sun, 13 January 2013, 01:39:18
Hey guys,

I've been away from home for the past day and I won't be back until tomorrow. I haven't been responding to my pm's and such because I don't have my computer with all my files. So if your expecting a reply from me or change in your invoice, please hang on and I'll get to you promptly.

Also if you haven't paid your invoice yet please do asap as I'd like to get the order placed for everything this week. If for whatever you need to cancel, let me know instead of not paying. If you have some circumstances that prevent you from paying now, talk to me and we'll figure something out (I know a couple people pm'd be and I will get back to you soon!).

Thanks guys :)
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sai on Mon, 14 January 2013, 08:30:31
paid ! :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 14 January 2013, 11:58:27
Hey guys,

I've been away from home for the past day and I won't be back until tomorrow. I haven't been responding to my pm's and such because I don't have my computer with all my files. So if your expecting a reply from me or change in your invoice, please hang on and I'll get to you promptly.

Also if you haven't paid your invoice yet please do asap as I'd like to get the order placed for everything this week. If for whatever you need to cancel, let me know instead of not paying. If you have some circumstances that prevent you from paying now, talk to me and we'll figure something out (I know a couple people pm'd be and I will get back to you soon!).

Thanks guys :)

How many invoices are you waiting on before you submit the order?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 14 January 2013, 12:51:14
I believe 11, ~$900. I sent out reminders on here and paypal last night so hopefully those get payed quickly. I think we should be ready to pay by tomorrow
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 14 January 2013, 12:55:03
I don't think there is that much of a hurry as plates still need to go through as well (and less importantly a case [gutted filco will do for now, but I'm not making this to be a filco ;)]);
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Mon, 14 January 2013, 13:00:20
Nice, Can't wait to get these PCB's!!!!

Thanks Bavman!
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Batmann on Tue, 15 January 2013, 15:57:48
Sweet!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Thu, 17 January 2013, 21:00:24
Is there an estimate on when they'll be complete after the order is submitted? I'm wondering how long I have to gather the remaining pieces aside from plates and stuff available in The Profosist's GB.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Oproer on Fri, 18 January 2013, 02:43:44
Where can I check if you received my payment? I hope nothing went wrong with it..
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: okooko on Fri, 18 January 2013, 10:36:50
Bav,

Can you update my shipping address and send it to Prof please.

Im having him assemble it for me, so if you can make that change that would be great.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 19 January 2013, 09:15:19
Is there an estimate on when they'll be complete after the order is submitted? I'm wondering how long I have to gather the remaining pieces aside from plates and stuff available in The Profosist's GB.

~12 days if the manufacturing time. If all goes well and it doesn't take a while for me to receive the plates after they've been completed I can hopefully start shipping them out 2.5-3 weeks from now. Assuming everything else gets here on time as well.

Where can I check if you received my payment? I hope nothing went wrong with it..

Yup, if you have't paid you've been getting pestering PMs and such from me telling you to pay
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Sat, 19 January 2013, 10:00:26
thanks for the update bav
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 19 January 2013, 10:01:22
Is there an estimate on when they'll be complete after the order is submitted? I'm wondering how long I have to gather the remaining pieces aside from plates and stuff available in The Profosist's GB.

~12 days if the manufacturing time. If all goes well and it doesn't take a while for me to receive the plates after they've been completed I can hopefully start shipping them out 2.5-3 weeks from now. Assuming everything else gets here on time as well.

Where can I check if you received my payment? I hope nothing went wrong with it..

Yup, if you have't paid you've been getting pestering PMs and such from me telling you to pay

YAY. 3 more weeks  :cool:
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:33:05
Does anyone know the part numbers for the Cherry plate mount stabilizers so that members can order them directly from Mouser?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:35:22
Does anyone know the part numbers for the Cherry plate mount stabilizers so that members can order them directly from Mouser?
sure i know them :D you could order though me though as itll me cheaper and yo ucan get the spacebar wires :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:37:15
Does anyone know the part numbers for the Cherry plate mount stabilizers so that members can order them directly from Mouser?
sure i know them :D you could order though me though as itll me cheaper and yo ucan get the spacebar wires :D

Do they not come with wires when you order from Mouser?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:39:02
oh bavman, I sent you a PM about changing my shipping :x
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: vultures on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:42:04
Hey Bav,

i drop a PM to you, did you receive it?

anwyay, i just want to ask whether do you have extra one slot? if you have let me know, i am interested to get one. Thanks
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:42:42
Does anyone know the part numbers for the Cherry plate mount stabilizers so that members can order them directly from Mouser?
sure i know them :D you could order though me though as itll me cheaper and yo ucan get the spacebar wires :D

Do they not come with wires when you order from Mouser?
comes with wires buit you cant order a spacebar wire wire from anywhere you have to get them bent wiith someone with a wirebender
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Gupgup on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:45:51
That's why my boy prof has got the hookup! :p
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Sun, 20 January 2013, 04:47:34
Does anyone know the part numbers for the Cherry plate mount stabilizers so that members can order them directly from Mouser?
sure i know them :D you could order though me though as itll me cheaper and yo ucan get the spacebar wires :D

Do they not come with wires when you order from Mouser?
comes with wires buit you cant order a spacebar wire wire from anywhere you have to get them bent wiith someone with a wirebender

I think your i key is having issues and your statement is hard to understand. From my further research it looks like I can get the stabilizers that are 2x in size from Mouser and WFD will also be offering 6.25x and 7x wires to allow me to use one of those 2x stabilizer sets for the spacebar by replacing the included wire with a longer one.

I think this is the correct part: http://www.mouser.com/Search/m_ProductDetail.aspx?Cherry-Electrical/0G990224/&qs=/ha2pyFadui/f77L2/6q1E9TeTSTHkqalUnHyJbKl9I=
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 20 January 2013, 11:47:33
Any chance of the Vortex Alu case fitting the Phantom PCB?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Sun, 20 January 2013, 11:51:44
Any chance of the Vortex Alu case fitting the Phantom PCB?

http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/phantom-in-vortex-case-t4910.html
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 20 January 2013, 12:09:19
Any chance of the Vortex Alu case fitting the Phantom PCB?

http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/phantom-in-vortex-case-t4910.html

Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 12:43:26
Does anyone know the part numbers for the Cherry plate mount stabilizers so that members can order them directly from Mouser?
sure i know them :D you could order though me though as itll me cheaper and yo ucan get the spacebar wires :D

Do they not come with wires when you order from Mouser?
comes with wires buit you cant order a spacebar wire wire from anywhere you have to get them bent wiith someone with a wirebender

I think your i key is having issues and your statement is hard to understand. From my further research it looks like I can get the stabilizers that are 2x in size from Mouser and WFD will also be offering 6.25x and 7x wires to allow me to use one of those 2x stabilizer sets for the spacebar by replacing the included wire with a longer one.

I think this is the correct part: http://www.mouser.com/Search/m_ProductDetail.aspx?Cherry-Electrical/0G990224/&qs=/ha2pyFadui/f77L2/6q1E9TeTSTHkqalUnHyJbKl9I=
yes WFD is the one bending them for my GB as he has a wirebender and im already dealing with him for plates.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 12:44:26
The vortex should fit but you may have to use a filco plate to do so but i may be wrong.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Sun, 20 January 2013, 13:02:04
The vortex should fit but you may have to use a filco plate to do so but i may be wrong.
In that thread he has 1.5 mods so I don't think it is the filco plate. He might have sandwiched the plate between the layers.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sun, 20 January 2013, 13:08:51
oh bavman, I sent you a PM about changing my shipping :x

Got it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Sun, 20 January 2013, 13:10:17
The vortex should fit but you may have to use a filco plate to do so but i may be wrong.
In that thread he has 1.5 mods so I don't think it is the filco plate. He might have sandwiched the plate between the layers.

Yeah, there is a little bit of info in the thread. I believe he's just laying the PCB in the case. He talks about movement of the PCB in different areas and alludes that the weight of it all may be resting on the teensy. It seems like it is ripe for someone willing to do some modding.
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 13:17:30
The vortex should fit but you may have to use a filco plate to do so but i may be wrong.
In that thread he has 1.5 mods so I don't think it is the filco plate. He might have sandwiched the plate between the layers.

Yeah, there is a little bit of info in the thread. I believe he's just laying the PCB in the case. He talks about movement of the PCB in different areas and alludes that the weight of it all may be resting on the teensy. It seems like it is ripe for someone willing to do some modding.
yes weight on the pcb and especially teensy isnt good...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 20 January 2013, 22:39:05
yes weight on the pcb and especially teensy isnt good...

That and no standoffs in a metal case isn't something idea for me.

I'd rather not have to buy a whole keyboard just to farm its case. Would Qtan's plastic case be a good fit?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 22:40:52
yes weight on the pcb and especially teensy isnt good...

That and no standoffs in a metal case isn't something idea for me.

I'd rather not have to buy a whole keyboards just to farm its case. Would Qtan's plastic case be a good fit?
umm the MKC acrylic i was going to ooffer those but fengs out and I dont think qtan has a big supply but yes itll work you need liner inbetween the acrylic and PCB though.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 20 January 2013, 22:43:36
yes weight on the pcb and especially teensy isnt good...

That and no standoffs in a metal case isn't something idea for me.

I'd rather not have to buy a whole keyboards just to farm its case. Would Qtan's plastic case be a good fit?
umm the MKC acrylic i was going to ooffer those but fengs out and I dont think qtan has a big supply but yes itll work you need liner inbetween the acrylic and PCB though.

Hmm...more case options would be nice. Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: netdevil on Mon, 21 January 2013, 20:50:49
Anyone who can't get their hands on this because its too late give me a message gotta let this go due to excessive spending this month :-\

I already paid for it and maybe I could get bav to change the shipping address since I don't think it has been shipped yet.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Leewei on Tue, 22 January 2013, 10:50:21
Hi, I also have an order for a phantom and won't be able to build one. If anyone is interested in a phantom pcb just send me a pm and we can try to arrange shipping from there.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 24 January 2013, 11:50:12
So it's waaaay outta my current price range, but would this work with Phantom PCB?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39571.0
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 January 2013, 11:54:04
So it's waaaay outta my current price range, but would this work with Phantom PCB?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39571.0


Probably not, due to the Teensy hanging off the back of the Phantom. There might not be clearance in the LZ case to fit the Teensy under the Phantom PCB in there, no matter how close you solder that Teensy to the Phantom. But we won't know for sure until someone tries it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 24 January 2013, 11:58:21
Yeah I didn't consider the teensy. I'm also unsure about the stabilizers. The LZ comes with PCB mounts, but it is unclear to me if you can also use plate mount which would be required for the phantom pcb...

That is still a pretty keyboard though
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:01:50
I think Cherry plate mount stabs will fit anywhere Cherry PCB mount stabs will fit, but I'm not 100% sure about that, depending on the plate design.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:04:28
No, for plate mount stabs there are special additional cuts in the plate for retention and clearances.  The standard Korean rectangular hole will not do it.  Also, the space bar hole needs to have a slot from end to end for the stab wire to go through.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:06:33
TIL. :D

Thanks for dropping that knowledge, alaric. I knew someone would know for sure.

Also, I am guessing that's why WYSE boards use PCB mount stabs for the space bar, huh?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:11:23
Probably.  The reason for the slot is because you need to insert the complete stabilizer through the plate to mount it.  Since the space bar isn't buried you can cheat and not do that (or even use PCB mount) and just shove the wire in from the edge of the PCB/plate.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:43:27
So it's waaaay outta my current price range, but would this work with Phantom PCB?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39571.0

Need to get more people interested in this. (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/case-discussions-t4530.html)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:51:09
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39513.0
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:57:09
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39513.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39513.0)
That will use it's own plate (one I linked is trying to be compatible) and offers more layouts. If I could have the 5 extra keys above the arrows + winkeyless with that case I'd be all for it. I'm pretty sure I'm alone (or in a very small group of people) who want that so it probably isn't feasible to do.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 24 January 2013, 13:03:43
Need to get more people interested in this. (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/case-discussions-t4530.html)

Awesome link. I have a sheet of 1/4" or 3/16" galvinized plate sitting around, can't remember exactly. You have inspired me to attempt something crazy: a homemade steel plate case. I bet that would be solid as a rock. I don't have a mill, but I suppose I can cut the holes out slightly smaller than needed with my cutoff tool then sand/grind little by little until the cutouts are the right size. I don't know, might be a fun project.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: blueSmoke on Fri, 25 January 2013, 04:04:17
I am late to the party and see the orders are closed.

Anybody has a extra PCB/stuff and is not interested/running out of budget? I am interested for one. Please let me know by PM.

netdevil: you got PM.
Leewei: you got PM.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Fri, 25 January 2013, 16:16:14
Also interested in this if anyone else wants out.

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 25 January 2013, 17:58:04
I ordered two since I was intending on making two of them, however, I just ordered a LZ-GH though, so I only need one of them.  I'll gladly let one of mine go to someone who missed out.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 26 January 2013, 01:08:03
I think I'll put mine up as well.  I just got a lzgh that my ergo-clears will go into and don't feel like spending the money for a fourth keyboard anymore.  I think three will be enough keyboards for me.  I also have a 1.5x plate from dangwang's GB a couple months ago.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Thu, 31 January 2013, 10:41:47
Any updates Bav? and if any one else wants out, lmk!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:00:38
Any updates Bav? and if any one else wants out, lmk!

I might be out for a KMAC, not sure yet. KMAC has the appeal of being what it is where the phantom I can do whatever I want. So hard not to do both but I don't need two more keyboards...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:09:19
^ Who said anything about need?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:11:18
yeah. Go for it. If you need to, sell your other keyboard(s). Custom > Storefront always. You can always buy a regular keyboard like a Filco, but your KMAC/Phantom/the Cheat/whathaveyou will be uniquely yours, and even if it isn't, there are so few out there that it's an awesome keyboard anyways. Add to the fact that they're Limited Edition, that makes them ALL THE BETTER.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:19:34
GH is bad enough on the wallet without the users chiming in. :P
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:24:04
GH is bad enough on the wallet without the users chiming in. :P

having (comparatively) next to no money...you can't do a lot. This Phantom will probably suck up the funds for this year...

Worth it.
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 January 2013, 14:13:43
<-- Enabler :P
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 31 January 2013, 16:42:10
<-- Enabler :P
In this case, definitely.
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 31 January 2013, 17:00:28
How much longer til we get these!? I'm so excited :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jupiter on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:35:19
How much longer til we get these!? I'm so excited :)

Me and you both! Want to get building my first keyboard
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:37:20
How much longer til we get these!? I'm so excited :)

Me and you both! Want to get building my first keyboard

Same here! I'm getting sick of my poker, I need the arrow keys back :p
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Thu, 31 January 2013, 21:33:24
Still like 3 months guys.

Just kidding

Already got the teensy controllers. The other electronics will take less than a week to get to me from mouser. Not sure about the PCBs though. bpiphany has been the middle man between me and pcbwing, all I do is pay :) So I'm not sure how long till those reach me.

I've been talking to WhiteFireDragon and if you ordered a PCB from me and a plate from him, he'll be sending me your plates and I'm going to combine them and we'll save you guys some money rather than having to pay for 2 separate shipments. Were still working out the details on it but it looks like thats what were going to end up doing.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Thu, 31 January 2013, 22:24:37
bavman, did you get my PM about shipping my PCB (and now plate?) to TheProfosist?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 31 January 2013, 22:31:54
Still like 3 months guys.

Just kidding

Already got the teensy controllers. The other electronics will take less than a week to get to me from mouser. Not sure about the PCBs though. bpiphany has been the middle man between me and pcbwing, all I do is pay :) So I'm not sure how long till those reach me.

I've been talking to WhiteFireDragon and if you ordered a PCB from me and a plate from him, he'll be sending me your plates and I'm going to combine them and we'll save you guys some money rather than having to pay for 2 separate shipments. Were still working out the details on it but it looks like thats what were going to end up doing.

Before shipping, can you send me a PM with what shipping address I gave you?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jupiter on Thu, 31 January 2013, 22:50:00
Still like 3 months guys.

Just kidding

You're a funny one hahaha. As for shipping both together, sounds good. Not like we can do anything with only half of the parts, so they may as well come together :P
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Fri, 01 February 2013, 00:18:31
The order has been placed with pcbwing, and paid. But thtis quote is from their web page.

Quote
We will enter a long holiday from Feb.9 to Feb.17 ,2013. It is Chinese Festival every year. Some processing will stop about 6 days before holidays.
Therefore, the delay would be longer than holidays. Please be sure to prepared in advance.

That thing is going to get in the middle. I would guess they can be delivered around two weeks after it ends.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jupiter on Fri, 01 February 2013, 02:19:38
The order has been placed with pcbwing, and paid. But thtis quote is from their web page.

Quote
We will enter a long holiday from Feb.9 to Feb.17 ,2013. It is Chinese Festival every year. Some processing will stop about 6 days before holidays.
Therefore, the delay would be longer than holidays. Please be sure to prepared in advance.

That thing is going to get in the middle. I would guess they can be delivered around two weeks after it ends.

We're only on the 1st now though, so I would have thought there would be a chance you could get in before that cut off...maybe?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Fri, 01 February 2013, 02:39:03
Production time alone is 12 days. So in short, not a chance =) The progress bar on the order status page hasn't started moving yet. So I think nothing will happen until after the festivities.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jupiter on Fri, 01 February 2013, 04:11:33
Production time alone is 12 days. So in short, not a chance =) The progress bar on the order status page hasn't started moving yet. So I think nothing will happen until after the festivities.

Ahh well. What's a few more weeks for a keyboard like the Phantom :P
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Denonic on Fri, 01 February 2013, 20:02:43
Ah damnit!  Can't believe I missed this =(. Anybody order an extra that they are willing to sell? please shoot me a pm
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 01 February 2013, 20:30:09
KuhnTang and tjcaustin have recently expressed interest in passing on their PCBs.  They may still be available.
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Denonic on Fri, 01 February 2013, 20:50:53
Just got a pm from somebody =) thanks or the heads up tho
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 02 February 2013, 00:04:14
KuhnTang and tjcaustin have recently expressed interest in passing on their PCBs.  They may still be available.

Someone PM'd me to claim the one I am interested in selling.  The other I just have to build for myself.  Although this LZ-GH is being mean to my wallet.  Who know's if I'll end up keeping it, but thats the plan for now.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 04 February 2013, 12:47:46
So I'm officially giving up my spot for my phantom. Also have been invoice for an ANSI150 plate for those who want it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 18 February 2013, 07:40:04
How is this going?  Any estimate on when these will be shipping?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Mon, 18 February 2013, 07:46:45
How is this going?  Any estimate on when these will be shipping?


Quote
We will enter a long holiday from Feb.9 to Feb.17 ,2013. It is Chinese Festival every year. Some processing will stop about 6 days before holidays.
Therefore, the delay would be longer than holidays. Please be sure to prepared in advance.

I think it's 2 weeks from today.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 18 February 2013, 11:01:22
I've been away from geekhack for a while now and feel I forgot everything.  Apologies if this has already been addressed.

From what I remember we can use the phantom with a Filco case, but not a QFR case, right?

Is the phantom compatible with a ducky dk9087g2 pro?  please let me know as I will be selling it if it isn't.

Thanks
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 18 February 2013, 11:24:34
TP, I feel I might be making your lift difficult again. :( Going to go with the Phantom for now and not the KMAC, winkeyless w/ keys above arrow cluster.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 18 February 2013, 12:48:39
I've been away from geekhack for a while now and feel I forgot everything.  Apologies if this has already been addressed.

From what I remember we can use the phantom with a Filco case, but not a QFR case, right?

Is the phantom compatible with a ducky dk9087g2 pro?  please let me know as I will be selling it if it isn't.

Thanks
Actually, as WhiteFireDragon (and others?) found, the phantom will fit in the QFR case with some(surprisingly not much) modification.
Pg 11 of this topic: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg753747#msg753747

Not sure about ducky. Do you have a picture of the PCB tray/bottom case?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 18 February 2013, 13:28:15
I've been away from geekhack for a while now and feel I forgot everything.  Apologies if this has already been addressed.

From what I remember we can use the phantom with a Filco case, but not a QFR case, right?

Is the phantom compatible with a ducky dk9087g2 pro?  please let me know as I will be selling it if it isn't.

Thanks
Actually, as WhiteFireDragon (and others?) found, the phantom will fit in the QFR case with some(surprisingly not much) modification.
Pg 11 of this topic: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg753747#msg753747

Not sure about ducky. Do you have a picture of the PCB tray/bottom case?

Cool, thanks man
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 22 February 2013, 09:08:00
Actually, as WhiteFireDragon (and others?) found, the phantom will fit in the QFR case with some(surprisingly not much) modification.
Pg 11 of this topic: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg753747#msg753747
What are the chances the Phantom PCB has traces running where the QFR does not and has the hole located? I want to be crazy and drill a hole in my Phantom, unless of course something useful is there and I can not.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 22 February 2013, 11:10:32
Why not just sand down the post in the QFR? Easier and safer than drilling a hole in the Phantom PCB :P
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 22 February 2013, 12:23:06
if somebody is passing out on their pbcs.
pm me plz
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: t2russo on Fri, 22 February 2013, 12:24:01
Actually, as WhiteFireDragon (and others?) found, the phantom will fit in the QFR case with some(surprisingly not much) modification.
Pg 11 of this topic: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg753747#msg753747
What are the chances the Phantom PCB has traces running where the QFR does not and has the hole located? I want to be crazy and drill a hole in my Phantom, unless of course something useful is there and I can not.

Someone already checked and there is a trace that lines up with the bottom support you have to trim.  No dice.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 22 February 2013, 13:10:02
Actually, as WhiteFireDragon (and others?) found, the phantom will fit in the QFR case with some(surprisingly not much) modification.
Pg 11 of this topic: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg753747#msg753747
What are the chances the Phantom PCB has traces running where the QFR does not and has the hole located? I want to be crazy and drill a hole in my Phantom, unless of course something useful is there and I can not.

Read through WFD's post. I could be wrong here 'cause I'm at work so this is from memory

But I think there are two potentail incompatabilities.
1. hole near "shift" is moved
2. screw hole moved

#2 cannot be solved: it'd take out about 7 traces near the teensy if you drilled there. The solution is not just keep the case closed with the clips, which is more than good enough. That screw basically does nothing.

#1 can be solved by filing the PCB and relocating a trace or (preferably) sanding down the standoff. I haven't done this personally, as I run my phantom caseless (on cardboard), but it should be pretty easy and still secure.

Getting a QFR is a good choice, as you get switches, and a case that'll work with soem modification.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 22 February 2013, 14:35:46
I already have two QFRs and just acquired my first Filco (camo with blues) on the cheap for $100, so one of them will not make the cut since I only ordered two Phantom PCBs.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 23 February 2013, 05:06:01
#2 cannot be solved: it'd take out about 7 traces near the teensy if you drilled there. The solution is not just keep the case closed with the clips, which is more than good enough. That screw basically does nothing.

#1 can be solved by filing the PCB and relocating a trace or (preferably) sanding down the standoff. I haven't done this personally, as I run my phantom caseless (on cardboard), but it should be pretty easy and still secure.

Yes that is correct.

In addition, I don't think this has ever been mentioned before but you'd also need to make an adapter from male USB mini-B to female molex pins. The molex pins needs to be 2mm pitch iirc. This adapter allows you to connect the teensy to the internal USB breakout board on the case. I have one made that I can post later. OR, just run a USB cable directly from the teensy and drill a hole in the case so it can exit. This option would mean you'd have to find a way to secure the USB cable from yanking on the teensy.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 24 February 2013, 00:24:01
A third option is to do what the ergoDOX did and run a USB-to-pigtail and solder it onto the sub-board on the QFR. You'd have to desolder the existing wires, but it could be worth it.

It's late and I might be wrong (and haven't looked at the datasheet) but I think this might be the connecter the QFR has: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/87369-0500/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%252bGHln7q6pm%252bS0pk2Wo0XxPvCayWDNhdc%3d

If that's the case, then you'd need this to attach to your teensy's USB somehow.
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/89400-0520/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%252bGHln7q6pm48SVpWlpfsE7kxuyL9RRLA%3d

OR you can do what I did, and break the connector off the QFR PCB. I found it's not impossible to solder wires to it, though this is likely the least ideal option.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: london00 on Tue, 26 February 2013, 17:36:40
If anyone is giving up/passing on their slot, PM me please. I would like to take it. I want to get in on this group buy.

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 26 February 2013, 20:02:32
Are these in production yet?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Tue, 26 February 2013, 20:28:51
PCBWing is back from the Chinese new year holiday so i hope so
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Tue, 26 February 2013, 20:45:26
They should be nearing completion and shipping to me soon.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 26 February 2013, 20:47:30
That's great news :)  Now just need those plates to get going...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Tue, 26 February 2013, 20:56:39
...and switch orders  :-X
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jupiter on Wed, 27 February 2013, 00:54:14
Sweet! Cannot wait. Just hope it doesn't arrive during an important time during Uni, because I know I won't be able to resist the urge to build it there and then when it gets to my mailbox hahaha
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Wed, 27 February 2013, 10:30:20
They should be nearing completion and shipping to me soon.

I just now got a mail from pcbwing that production has started. I guess they needed some time to catch up after the holidays. There was a small thing on one of the new silkscreen files that needed some attention from me as well. This all means bavman may have them in his hands 14 days from today.
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Wed, 27 February 2013, 10:32:56
They should be nearing completion and shipping to me soon.

I just now got a mail from pcbwing that production has started. I guess they needed some time to catch up after the holidays. There was a small thing on one of the new silkscreen files that needed some attention from me as well. This all means bavman may have them in his hands 14 days from today.


Thanks for the update!!
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Wed, 27 February 2013, 11:29:26
They should be nearing completion and shipping to me soon.

I just now got a mail from pcbwing that production has started. I guess they needed some time to catch up after the holidays. There was a small thing on one of the new silkscreen files that needed some attention from me as well. This all means bavman may have them in his hands 14 days from today.
YESssssss.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Thu, 28 February 2013, 23:44:37
If anyone is interested in 2x pcb and 2x teensy PM me and we can get the shipping address switched and u pay what i paid.

Must be both, dont want to get complicated with this xD

$122.06 USD If youre curious.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: luckynet on Sat, 02 March 2013, 00:22:28
looking for one pcb and one teensy. thanks
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 02 March 2013, 01:29:07
If anyone is interested in 2x pcb and 2x teensy PM me and we can get the shipping address switched and u pay what i paid.

Must be both, dont want to get complicated with this xD

$122.06 USD If youre curious.

I think you could safely split your order in 2 if you don't want it. It'll be very easy to sell, I've had several people PM me about extras.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sun, 03 March 2013, 16:51:45
PM'd you bavman ^^
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Thu, 07 March 2013, 07:24:53
Im looking for a phantom PCB PM me if anyone has one they want to sell and dont mind shipping to the UK
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 07 March 2013, 07:43:02
Im looking for a phantom PCB PM me if anyone has one they want to sell and dont mind shipping to the UK
Shipping shouldn't be a problem since the PCB's have not yet been shipped...so if someone is willing to let go of one you can just take their spot in the GB!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Thu, 07 March 2013, 13:21:44
Im looking for a phantom PCB PM me if anyone has one they want to sell and dont mind shipping to the UK

PM turkishrambo. He has two sets he's looking to get rid of. You can pay him directly for a set and I'll ship it out to you instead when they come in
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Thu, 07 March 2013, 13:45:53
bavman, how would the shipping work out, since i payed for shipping once for 2 pcb, would they just pay me what the pcb and teensy are worth and pay you for shipping one out?

Ive considered keeping one XD. I deleted my post i will PM whoever was first to respond. Theres at least 6 or so that have shown interest.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Thu, 07 March 2013, 13:49:40
bavman, how would the shipping work out, since i payed for shipping once for 2 pcb, would they just pay me what the pcb and teensy are worth and pay you for shipping one out?

Ive considered keeping one XD. I deleted my post i will PM whoever was first to respond. Theres at least 6 or so that have shown interest.

Yes thats probably the best way to do it.
Told you you'd have no problems selling them off  :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Thu, 07 March 2013, 14:12:32
Theres at least 6 or so that have shown interest.

Hope it was me! If not hopefully someone else will take pity on me :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: deSheol on Sat, 09 March 2013, 06:36:44
Let me know if anyone has any extra that they want to sell!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metafour on Sun, 17 March 2013, 01:35:14
I'm selling my 2 Phantom orders; PCB, Teensy, PHANSI 150 plate, 7x Cherry stabs. They're also listed in the Classifieds.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Soulpyre on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:12:44
deSheol, are you looking for just the PCB or the plates+stabilizers too?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:14:37
any idea of when these bad boys ship?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: mashby on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:15:22
While I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of these boards, I've put together my first group buy. It's for Silver Metallic Phantom Stickers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41486.0).

Not trying to divert the thread, just wanted to get the word out.  :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Sat, 23 March 2013, 08:35:07
The PCBs should be almost finished in production. I think they may still be lagging behind a bit from the long holidays they were on. I wish I could give an exact time, but I haven't asked, and I think that wouldn't make any difference anyway. Soon is the answer I have to offer =)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 23 March 2013, 10:02:27
The PCBs should be almost finished in production. I think they may still be lagging behind a bit from the long holidays they were on. I wish I could give an exact time, but I haven't asked, and I think that wouldn't make any difference anyway. Soon is the answer I have to offer =)

PCBwing, right?  Did you use the 12 day option?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 23 March 2013, 10:16:22
Must have been 12 days for each PCB ordered... ;D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 23 March 2013, 11:30:49
Must have been 12 days for each PCB ordered... ;D

So the ETA is 2015 and beyond? :))
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: deSheol on Sat, 23 March 2013, 22:51:56
Still looking for 1 pcb set! Pm me!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Sun, 24 March 2013, 12:42:46
Last time I made a PCB for school the turn around time was like 5 days, what's taking so long on these?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jmneuv on Sun, 24 March 2013, 12:52:32
Can you actually open a switch from below via the swiss cheese access?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Sun, 24 March 2013, 13:18:54
Last time I made a PCB for school the turn around time was like 5 days, what's taking so long on these?

First of all I picked the 12 day production time, working days that is. The order was submitted  January 31, and didn't make it before their new year. Second I guess they may still be swamped with work piled up during their festivities. I believe they are in the final steps of quality control by now. Hopefully I will get the mail with FedEx tracking info after the weekend. After that they will arrive quickly =)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Sun, 24 March 2013, 22:56:14
Last time I made a PCB for school the turn around time was like 5 days, what's taking so long on these?

First of all I picked the 12 day production time, working days that is. The order was submitted  January 31, and didn't make it before their new year. Second I guess they may still be swamped with work piled up during their festivities. I believe they are in the final steps of quality control by now. Hopefully I will get the mail with FedEx tracking info after the weekend. After that they will arrive quickly =)

Apologies if that came off the wrong way.  I was just noting the difference in time.  I'm aware of all the hurdles yo're trying to overcome and am thankful that someone other than myself is taking this on.  So .... thanks, I appreciate everyone's effort in this.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Mon, 25 March 2013, 02:38:53
I didn't mean to sound harsh either, I should probably have left out the "First of all" wording, English isn't my first language either =) But, yes it's been taking a bit too long, and I don't really know why that is.

Good new is I just got the mail, the PCBs are with FedEx now =D


You could probably even have custom PCBs delivered by courier over the day if you live in the right place and pay accordingly...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: blueSmoke on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:30:10
Does anybody want to sell his PCB+teensy?

I have a plate, and need only the PCB. But, if you dont want to part it out, will take the whole bundle. Need it for a friend who is going thru bad hand syndrome.

Please PM or reply here.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 27 March 2013, 21:54:20
Look what was at my parents house today, all the way from beijing
It was supposed to be delivered on Friday but I guess fedex decided today was better for them.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 27 March 2013, 21:55:52
!!!   :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: oluf on Wed, 27 March 2013, 22:20:08
Sweet!! Thank you for the updates bavman! They're really appreciated! =)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 27 March 2013, 22:33:55
Any word from the Prof?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 27 March 2013, 22:37:15
Any word from the Prof?

Check out his thread, he just left a message not too long ago about part orders
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 27 March 2013, 22:40:26
Opps just did right after this one.

Good stuff!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 29 March 2013, 20:15:44
Well I finally got my hands on these, but because I have a fairly big test Monday, I'll start sending them out midweek. The people who ordered only the PCBs, or are having them sent to WFD/TP will get theirs sent out first. Then when I receive plates from WFD I'll bundle them and send the rest out. Here are some pics though for the mean time:

[attachimg=6]
[attachimg=2]

A fun read if you're bored:
[attachimg=3]

So I was going to assemble a board to just make sure everything is working but I ran into a little problem:
[attachimg=4]

About 1/3 of the way through soldering switches, I was like "crap, I forgot the stabilizers," which I apparently forgot at my apartment. So that won't happen for a while now.
[attachimg=5]
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:33:45
Awesome can't wait!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:36:35
What are we doing with the ones that're supposed to go to Prof? Is WFD/myself getting them or are we continuing with Prof?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Fri, 29 March 2013, 21:50:00
damn awesome ergodox and phantom in the same month!, sucks what happened with the phantom plates, I hope that gets resolved.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 30 March 2013, 00:49:03
Well I had some spare time guys and I finally put together a board to check everything out. I found an old wyse board in my basement and bent my own stabilizers and it turned out well. One thing I did figure out the hard way though is that LEDs I ordered are polarized. When installing the LEDs you'll notice that one leg is longer than the other. Make sure that longer leg goes in the round hole (you'll see a pair of holes marked LED_A or LED_B) and the shorter leg goes in the square one. I'll make note of this in the OP too, but if your caps/scroll locks don't light up that's probably why.

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Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 00:54:20
LEDs are always polarized, just FYI. LED stands for light emitting diode, and diodes only permit current to flow one way. Nice blue switches though, CLICK CLICK CLICK!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 30 March 2013, 00:54:40
All LEDs are like that.  Electrically they act as Diodes, which always have an anode and cathode.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 00:56:25
All LEDs are like that.  Electrically they act as Diodes, which always have an anode and cathode.
Ninja'd! :P
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 30 March 2013, 01:11:59
Man I could have sworn there are lights that I've used before that didn't matter. Maybe I'm just think about AC bulbs. I'm studying electronics on my own time right now so hopefully in the future I'll know what I'm talking about :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Sat, 30 March 2013, 01:28:17
There are LEDs which are both ways. Often red one direction and green the other. But yeah you should've known that.. ;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 30 March 2013, 02:25:16
Well I finally got my hands on these, but because I have a fairly big test Monday, I'll start sending them out midweek. The people who ordered only the PCBs, or are having them sent to WFD/TP will get theirs sent out first.

You have a big test Monday, but still made time to build the keyboard. True keyboard geek here.

I'll get the plate issue worked out one way or another.
Title: Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 02:28:16
What are we doing with the ones that're supposed to go to Prof? Is WFD/myself getting them or are we continuing with Prof?
Again, what are we doing with these PCBs considering the state of the GB currently, or should I start asking the owners of the PCBs their opinion?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: deSheol on Sat, 30 March 2013, 08:11:22
I would like to buy a set of Phantom. PCB and all those. Please let me know if someone wants to let go 1 set.
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Sat, 30 March 2013, 10:44:06
WFD, since we're Switching vendor would it be possible to add plates to the orders?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 30 March 2013, 12:19:29
LEDs are always polarized, just FYI. LED stands for light emitting diode, and diodes only permit current to flow one way. Nice blue switches though, CLICK CLICK CLICK!
You can get bipolar LED's but this is usually done to get a different colour if the current is flowing in a different direction (and they are, therefore, more like 2 LEDs in one)

Now it's time to ask: what's that QR code mean? I can't scan it (not enough contrast) and my imagemagick skill is too low to fix it in postprocessing.

Finally: that plate looks nice! I wish I'd have got two PCB's and another plate from him to compare to the original plate.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 30 March 2013, 12:52:28
What QR code?  I don't see one...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:03:22
It's under the silk screen on the underside.
To these people, where please PM me with where you would like your PCB to go. I don't know if people still want their PCB to go to Prof pending the recent stuff with the GB.
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Acetrak
affect656
Amarok
AriesX
Binge
csimi
FabsSpeed
Gameaholic
gizzard
isman
longweight
mashby
nebo
Okooko
Oproer
sleepy916
TheQsanity
zzAaron
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: mashby on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:09:02
It's under the silk screen on the underside.
To these people, where please PM me with where you would like your PCB to go.

Go? Not sure I follow. I ordered the Assembly Service for my Phantom, that's all I know.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:10:11
It's under the silk screen on the underside.
To these people, where please PM me with where you would like your PCB to go.

Go? Not sure I follow. I ordered the Assembly Service for my Phantom, that's all I know.
Yeah, whoops. I don't know if people still want their PCB to go to Prof pending the recent stuff with the GB.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: mashby on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:11:18
It's under the silk screen on the underside.
To these people, where please PM me with where you would like your PCB to go.

Go? Not sure I follow. I ordered the Assembly Service for my Phantom, that's all I know.
Yeah, whoops. I don't know if people still want their PCB to go to Prof pending the recent stuff with the GB.

So is the option to send it to him, or to you? I don't know who was on the list for the build.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:12:17
I'm just trying to figure out if the PCBs should go to him, or to me/WFD or to their rightful owners. I suppose I should have thought out my post a bit more carefully.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:17:55
What QR code?  I don't see one...

There has been very little progress figuring it out...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:20:16
Challenge accepted.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:23:35
What are we doing with the ones that're supposed to go to Prof? Is WFD/myself getting them or are we continuing with Prof?
Again, what are we doing with these PCBs considering the state of the GB currently, or should I start asking the owners of the PCBs their opinion?

Probably best to have his PCBs sent to someone else or just hold them until he responds. I've sent him a few PMs last week but he hasn't responded.

I'll send you a PM about this.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:24:13
That's what I thought also, just confirming with the people who own said PCBs.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 30 March 2013, 14:21:48
What are we doing with the ones that're supposed to go to Prof? Is WFD/myself getting them or are we continuing with Prof?
Again, what are we doing with these PCBs considering the state of the GB currently, or should I start asking the owners of the PCBs their opinion?

I'm going to try talking to him and see what he'd like to do and see if he will be able to assemble all the boards that are supposed to come to him. If not they will probably go to WFD instead
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 14:38:32
I'm also on the solder squad for that GB, hence my question. WFD PM'd me and I think he and I agreed to have you hold them/WFD get all of them until Prof becomes less MIA. I don't want people to get upset about the Prof matters when their Phantoms aren't assembled after months.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Sun, 31 March 2013, 05:39:23
Let this be forgotten forever!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:28:55
What the hell are we waitin for?

I haven't been active here for a while, purposely saving my wallet, but I still wonder if my Phantom is going to be in the mail when I come home after work.

Is it just me or is 4 months starting to push it ?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:30:47
In light of other needed keyboards fundings, I'll be letting go of my Phantom order if anyone is interested. I'll post this in the three Phantom GBs that I've ordered from.
I have ordered the following items:
- 1 Phantom PCB + Teensy controller
- 1 Cherry 7x stabilizer set, Blue LEDs and Orange LEDs
- 1 Phantom plate ISO150

Where did you get the 7x stabilizer set from?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:46:58
What the hell are we waitin for?

I haven't been active here for a while, purposely saving my wallet, but I still wonder if my Phantom is going to be in the mail when I come home after work.

Is it just me or is 4 months starting to push it ?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg837737#msg837737
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 01 April 2013, 12:03:44
What the hell are we waitin for?

I haven't been active here for a while, purposely saving my wallet, but I still wonder if my Phantom is going to be in the mail when I come home after work.

Is it just me or is 4 months starting to push it ?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg837737#msg837737

Thank you. Didn't mean to come off as rude, if I did.

I know I've read in the past that GBs like this are basically waiting games, but I didn't expect it to this extent.

Appreciate the work you put into organizing this.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Mon, 01 April 2013, 14:52:23
Where did you get the 7x stabilizer set from?

From Profs GB: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.0
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: aggiejy on Thu, 04 April 2013, 21:28:02
What the hell are we waitin for?

I haven't been active here for a while, purposely saving my wallet, but I still wonder if my Phantom is going to be in the mail when I come home after work.

Is it just me or is 4 months starting to push it ?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg837737#msg837737

Might be wise to include a but update link in the OP to that permalink. :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: mashby on Fri, 05 April 2013, 09:08:09
Just a reminder that today is the final day to place your order for a Phantom sticker (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41486.0).

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8601209423_d357158f06.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52308907@N07/8601209423/)
phantom (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52308907@N07/8601209423/) by kaporkle (http://www.flickr.com/people/52308907@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 09 April 2013, 00:20:49
In light of other needed keyboards fundings, I'll be letting go of my Phantom order if anyone is interested. I'll post this in the three Phantom GBs that I've ordered from.
I have ordered the following items:
- 1 Phantom PCB + Teensy controller
- 1 Cherry 7x stabilizer set, Blue LEDs and Orange LEDs
- 1 Phantom plate ISO150
Hi again, do you still have those Phantom items? I'll take them all including stabs, plate etc. How much would you be asking for the lot, and is Paypal okay?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:44:57
In light of other needed keyboards fundings, I'll be letting go of my Phantom order if anyone is interested. I'll post this in the three Phantom GBs that I've ordered from.
I have ordered the following items:
- 1 Phantom PCB + Teensy controller
- 1 Cherry 7x stabilizer set, Blue LEDs and Orange LEDs
- 1 Phantom plate ISO150
Hi again, do you still have those Phantom items? I'll take them all including stabs, plate etc. How much would you be asking for the lot, and is Paypal okay?
this has been over for quite some time.  Your only option is to buy from someone who doesn't want theirs anymore, or just wait for the next round.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:50:23
In light of other needed keyboards fundings, I'll be letting go of my Phantom order if anyone is interested. I'll post this in the three Phantom GBs that I've ordered from.
I have ordered the following items:
- 1 Phantom PCB + Teensy controller
- 1 Cherry 7x stabilizer set, Blue LEDs and Orange LEDs
- 1 Phantom plate ISO150
Hi again, do you still have those Phantom items? I'll take them all including stabs, plate etc. How much would you be asking for the lot, and is Paypal okay?
this has been over for quite some time.  Your only option is to buy from someone who doesn't want theirs anymore, or just wait for the next round.

He's referring to Paranoid, who's selling his stuff. He's asking Paranoid if the stuff's still for sale.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:00:21
guess I should try reading :p
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:07:36
guess I should try reading :p

It's overrated. ;D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:08:08
Woops, didn't really follow this anymore.
I'm gonna sound like a complete douche, but my issues have worked themselves out. So I'm going to keep my Phantom order after all. What else would I do with my dyesub set and switches!
So, apologies for jumping the gun!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:30:44
(http://i.imgur.com/lQyL7PA.jpg)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:33:37
Haha nooooo. I meant for a like day or so for christ sake :p
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:36:10
Haha nooooo. I meant for a like day or so for christ sake :p

I lol'd
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:57:17
*facepalm

I really can't believe I did this.. I was half asleep when I posted that and I think I must've replied to his forum post instead of replying to his PM.

I don't understand how I, even in a drowsy state, could do something so stupid.

Sorry about that.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Gupgup on Wed, 10 April 2013, 00:51:33
Haven't really been keeping up with this, how long are we looking at until we have all parts we ordered?

Thanks :D


Gupgup
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 10 April 2013, 06:30:43
Haven't really been keeping up with this, how long are we looking at until we have all parts we ordered?

Thanks :D


Gupgup

This specific GB has all the parts. We're waiting on another GB to finish to send these out :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 10 April 2013, 08:30:53
Have these PCBs shipped?  Didn't they come in like a while ago?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:48:33
I was going to ship them earlier but I got a little busy, so the orders without plates will ship out in the next couple days. After I get the plates from WDF I'll ship the rest of the PCBs and plates together
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 10 April 2013, 14:57:57
Okay,  for some reason I didn't realize that you were shipping plates together with PCBs.  I happen to have 2 PCBs and one WFD plate.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jupiter on Wed, 10 April 2013, 16:20:17
That feel when you can see the end of the group buy in sight :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Thu, 11 April 2013, 09:14:08
I was going to ship them earlier but I got a little busy, so the orders without plates will ship out in the next couple days. After I get the plates from WDF I'll ship the rest of the PCBs and plates together
lol I want my PCB now

anyone want my ANSI 150 plate?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 09:24:16
I want my PCB now, too! :)

I have some plates already...but I ordered more of them from WFD.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Thu, 11 April 2013, 09:51:40
GIMME PCB :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 11 April 2013, 11:30:51
I already have one WFD universal plate to use with one Phantom, and an additional Phantom plate for an ANSI 150 layout. Will it be possible to just get both PCBs now, and pay for WFD plate shipping separate?

Maybe I should ask first how long of a delay are we looking at due to the WFD phantom plates?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: aggiejy on Fri, 12 April 2013, 09:48:58
Couple weeks.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:16:12
just wondering
could you create a sheet for the status of orders? like shipped or not...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:44:34
I was actually just about to post whose stuff went out today.
Went out today:
___red___
Acetrak
boost
DanGWanG
dorkvader
DrSchlock
duq
ekw808
ElTwig
fl0w3n
heeliqin
hluo87
hoggy
Holidayshrimp
i3oilermaker
inteli722
maxmalkav
NikoGasm
obtxo
rknize
roadblock2thesun
salmo
snoopy
The_Beast
tipo33
tjcaustin
Turkishrambo

Did not go out:
Batmann - Really sorry but I packaged your order wrong, but it'll go out tomorrow
Takaki - needed more shipping info, PM'd you
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:54:28
I was actually just about to post whose stuff went out today.
Went out today:
___red___
Acetrak
boost
DanGWanG
dorkvader
DrSchlock
duq
ekw808
ElTwig
fl0w3n
heeliqin
hluo87
hoggy
Holidayshrimp
i3oilermaker
inteli722
maxmalkav
NikoGasm
obtxo
rknize
roadblock2thesun
salmo
snoopy
The_Beast
tipo33
tjcaustin
Turkishrambo

Did not go out:
Batmann - Really sorry but I packaged your order wrong, but it'll go out tomorrow
Takaki - needed more shipping info, PM'd you

Hey, you forgot about me?

this has me a little freaked out.  What's going on with my order?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:56:44
Hey, you forgot about me?

this has me a little freaked out.  What's going on with my order?

I have you down for a plate as well from WFD. Those orders will ship later when I receive the plates from him as a single package.
If this is wrong PM me and we'll figure it out
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boost on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:57:12
Nice!!!!  Thanks
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:58:35
Hey, you forgot about me?

this has me a little freaked out.  What's going on with my order?

I have you down for a plate as well from WFD. Those orders will ship later when I receive the plates from him as a single package.
If this is wrong PM me and we'll figure it out

When are these plates coming in?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Fri, 12 April 2013, 17:00:46
Hey, you forgot about me?

this has me a little freaked out.  What's going on with my order?

I have you down for a plate as well from WFD. Those orders will ship later when I receive the plates from him as a single package.
If this is wrong PM me and we'll figure it out

When are these plates coming in?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg842103#msg842103

it will be until at least the very end of this month
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 12 April 2013, 17:01:56
When are these plates coming in?

According to WDF around 3 weeks from his order of them. He had some problems with the original manufacturer (they messed up the plates pretty bad) so he had to go to another one, you can follow on his thread. I'm not sure when the order went in though, that would be something to ask him. 
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Fri, 12 April 2013, 23:02:20
I was actually just about to post whose stuff went out today.
Went out today:
___red___
Acetrak
boost
DanGWanG
dorkvader
DrSchlock
duq
ekw808
ElTwig
fl0w3n
heeliqin
hluo87
hoggy
Holidayshrimp
i3oilermaker
inteli722
maxmalkav
NikoGasm
obtxo
rknize
roadblock2thesun
salmo
snoopy
The_Beast
tipo33
tjcaustin
Turkishrambo

Did not go out:
Batmann - Really sorry but I packaged your order wrong, but it'll go out tomorrow
Takaki - needed more shipping info, PM'd you

Hey Bav,

I think I got a plate. I ordered a WFD150, so I'm confused my PCB shipped already.

Didn't realize til now.

Duq
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Fri, 12 April 2013, 23:06:56
I was actually just about to post whose stuff went out today.
Went out today:
___red___
Acetrak
boost
DanGWanG
dorkvader
DrSchlock
duq
ekw808
ElTwig
fl0w3n
heeliqin
hluo87
hoggy
Holidayshrimp
i3oilermaker
inteli722
maxmalkav
NikoGasm
obtxo
rknize
roadblock2thesun
salmo
snoopy
The_Beast
tipo33
tjcaustin
Turkishrambo

Did not go out:
Batmann - Really sorry but I packaged your order wrong, but it'll go out tomorrow
Takaki - needed more shipping info, PM'd you

Hey Bav,

I think I got a plate. I ordered a WFD150, so I'm confused my PCB shipped already.

Didn't realize til now.

Duq
me too, i think i was late or something. i got a 1.50 coming already but im getting 2 pcbs.
I may save it or just get another from classifieds, etc

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdFExRUdJTXR5REhtYlBYd1dmREhlc0E#gid=0

i DID order one, however i dont mind getting the pcbs before the plate. I think its too late now anyways XD
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 13 April 2013, 02:18:46
I don't remember if I got one... I think so... could you check? If so why my name is not there? :P
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 13 April 2013, 08:19:32
I was actually just about to post whose stuff went out today.
Went out today:
___red___
Acetrak
boost
DanGWanG
dorkvader
DrSchlock
duq
ekw808
ElTwig
fl0w3n
heeliqin
hluo87
hoggy
Holidayshrimp
i3oilermaker
inteli722
maxmalkav
NikoGasm
obtxo
rknize
roadblock2thesun
salmo
snoopy
The_Beast
tipo33
tjcaustin
Turkishrambo

Did not go out:
Batmann - Really sorry but I packaged your order wrong, but it'll go out tomorrow
Takaki - needed more shipping info, PM'd you

Hey Bav,

I think I got a plate. I ordered a WFD150, so I'm confused my PCB shipped already.

Didn't realize til now.

Duq

Same here, though I'm still happy its coming!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 13 April 2013, 09:46:18
How much is shipping for one PCB? Can I get one shipped now that I'll pay for the shipping now, and get my second PCB shipped with my plate which shipping is already paid for?

Edit: looks like shipping for one board is $8, so can I pay that and get one sent now?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Sat, 13 April 2013, 10:19:42
Oops well it looks like I screwed up, I forgot to update my list...but theres nothing I can really do about it so I'll just send you guys the plates when I get them (or WFD can just ship them directly to you), don't worry about it.

And daniel, just pm me and we'll figure something out
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 13 April 2013, 10:24:08
Oops well it looks like I screwed up, I forgot to update my list...but theres nothing I can really do about it so I'll just send you guys the plates when I get them (or WFD can just ship them directly to you), don't worry about it.

And daniel, just pm me and we'll figure something out

No issues! I promised a friend my own pic of the PCB, so that'll make it easier!
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Sat, 13 April 2013, 13:55:08
Oops well it looks like I screwed up, I forgot to update my list...but theres nothing I can really do about it so I'll just send you guys the plates when I get them (or WFD can just ship them directly to you), don't worry about it.

And daniel, just pm me and we'll figure something out

Bav! PM your PP info and I'll send you shipping funds. Nbd.
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Gupgup on Sat, 13 April 2013, 14:00:04
Just want to be sure that you have my PCB and are waiting on my plate from WFD also?

Thanks!


Gupgup
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 13 April 2013, 19:16:40
Do you know when you have finished out shipping all the pcbs (without plates)?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Sun, 14 April 2013, 13:05:53
Thanks for the update Bavman! Glad to see my PCB went out.

I really can't remember what I did about plates, since the above spreadsheet shows me as unpaid for ANSI and ISO 150s, but I've got an ANSI125 here I can use in the mean time considering I don't have an ISO set or a tsangan lol

Thanks!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Batmann on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:20:27
Batmann - Really sorry but I packaged your order wrong, but it'll go out tomorrow

no probs Bavman, I can wait some more days  :)
thanks

btw, very cool avatar!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: rknize on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:22:11
What did I order again?  Oh yeah...cool!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Mon, 15 April 2013, 17:12:23
Got my phantoms today, I gotta say, nice packaging bavman! Thanks, you da bomb
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 15 April 2013, 17:37:30
Super excited! I received my package today, my first ever Phantom is here :D woot!

However, I regret to also say the PCB is quite bent :( what do I do?  Can I simply bend it back gently?  Leave it and just have it straighten out when I mount it?  Or do I need to claim insurance?

I hate to be the party pooper :( I hope everyone else has theirs come fine

(http://i.imgur.com/T62Vijk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/i9uPxvD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BaIItiV.jpg)

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 15 April 2013, 17:45:40
GOT MINE TODAY!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tP6RQajZMWc/UTyzmXgbk-I/AAAAAAAAAnc/cDQUFqw2P8Q/s912/DSCF2097.JPG)
/trolling :P
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 17:47:57
GOT MINE TODAY!
Show Image
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tP6RQajZMWc/UTyzmXgbk-I/AAAAAAAAAnc/cDQUFqw2P8Q/s912/DSCF2097.JPG)

/trolling :P

ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 15 April 2013, 18:10:34
Super excited! I received my package today, my first ever Phantom is here :D woot!

However, I regret to also say the PCB is quite bent :( what do I do?  Can I simply bend it back gently?  Leave it and just have it straighten out when I mount it?  Or do I need to claim insurance?

I hate to be the party pooper :( I hope everyone else has theirs come fine

Oh wow...that is kinda bent....would someone know what could cause this?
I was under the impression that the PCB is stiff enough to just break not bend like that. Could it maybe have been caused by heat?

Do you have a plate that you could test by just mounting a few switches and seeing if it'll fit alright?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 18:17:39
Their's not a whole lot going on in the PCB of a keyboard.  Chances are that it will be just fine.  the only thing you have to worry about is board trace breaking at the bend location.  try it out.  I'm willing to be this will work. 
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 15 April 2013, 18:28:09
Yeah I didn't think this PCB would bend like that, then again I've permanently bent Motherboard PCB's.

Yeah I've got a plate.  You mean soldering the switches on or just a dry fit? 

I think it'll still work too, I'm just kinda bummed knowing it's kinda defected now :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 15 April 2013, 18:29:03
The only issue I see is possibly getting it to fit all properly in the keyboard/good solders on the switches...if the gap between the Plate and PCB is too big, the switch might not get a solid seat in the PCB. 
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 18:29:55
yeah, I know what you mean.  the good news is that if it works, you'll likely never look at it after it's installed. 

That being said, I'd be upset if mine were bent too.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: salmo on Mon, 15 April 2013, 19:43:11
Got mine today, as well.  In the process of piecing it together with what I have lying around.

(http://i.imgur.com/MxGMf4y.jpg)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 20:31:24
hi bavman,
I have received the pcb set today! thanks so much, however there is no plate....i ordered ANS125...
so i should receive that from WhiteFireDragon?
Title: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Mon, 15 April 2013, 21:05:40
Received. Thanks Bav! Now to wait for that plate...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 15 April 2013, 21:33:19
hi bavman,
I have received the pcb set today! thanks so much, however there is no plate....i ordered ANS125...
so i should receive that from WhiteFireDragon?

Yes this was a mistake I made with a couple people. You weren't supposed to get your PCB this earlier because I was going to get the plates from WFD when they're done and bundle the plates and PCBs. I didn't update my list though so I accidentally sent some out early, but worry not, when the plates are done we'll get them to you.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 15 April 2013, 21:35:40
Oops well it looks like I screwed up, I forgot to update my list...but theres nothing I can really do about it so I'll just send you guys the plates when I get them (or WFD can just ship them directly to you), don't worry about it.

And daniel, just pm me and we'll figure something out

You've got a list of people who's PCB + Plate hasn't been shipped out yet?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: fl0w3n on Tue, 16 April 2013, 00:16:44
I just don't think this is right  :-[

I don't want to go seeing if I can force everything in place, and try to basically unbend it by soldering switches into place and risk bending my plate too. 
I also don't want my first Phantom (or any keyboard) assembly to be even harder because of this  :-\

Bav, do you want to take this to PM so we can discuss potential solutions?  I feel really bad for making a ruckus  :'(

(http://i.imgur.com/3xM1Ufg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PV1q25o.jpg)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 16 April 2013, 01:40:16
fl0w3n, PCBs have a very high tolerance to bending. I would try to put the PCB under heavy weight for 24h, you could also try to iron it gently (not too hot) with a cloth in between. You should try to straighten it just a bit, switches will put it back in place when soldered.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: rknize on Tue, 16 April 2013, 08:36:50
I would just hold the PCB in my hands and push that area straight with my thumbs.  You'll have to over extend it a bit to remove the warp.  You'll probably hear some crinkling of the fiberglass, but the PCB should be fine.  If you don't see any discoloration of the substrate on the edges, you should not have any problems.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:33:46
I would be very careful doing that.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:35:12
I would be very careful doing that.
No no no. Careful is for nerds and squares. Bend it with reckless disregard.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: rknize on Tue, 16 April 2013, 11:27:31
Yes, some care is going to be required.  I have seen much worse, believe me.  I would be worried about your run-of-the-mill FR-3 PCB, but FR-4 PCBs like these are pretty tough.  If you were building a PCB mount keyboard, then I would suggest not using this PCB.  Since you are going to plate mount, the PCB rigidity is less of a concern.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 16 April 2013, 11:53:41
I have two PCB's + two teensey controllers + 1 plate from WFD.  I'm going to give up my order, but only if someone takes it all.  I'm not going to piece it out.  Contact me if you're interested.  I'll sell it at cost + shipping.   it hasn't been shipped to me yet, so all you'll have to do is pay me and I'll let bavman know to ship it to you.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 16 April 2013, 17:45:39
Mine arrived in good shape today. I'm thinking of doing my 7bit plate as ergoclears to mach my current phantom (also ergo clears)

It's interesting: this plate isn't the same. They took out the swiss cheese holes around all the switches (for switch removal  from the bottom without desoldering).

Now, can anyone help me scan those QR codes? I'm thinking of taking a high-contrast picture (edge lit) and converting it to B&W. I will figure out what they say.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 16 April 2013, 19:06:45
I forgot to mention the reason for my abandonment of the phantom.  With the LZ-GH and my recent interest in getting a topre board I just don't think I'm going to have room.  On that note.  If you have a topre board and want to trade my parts (two phantom PCB's, two teensey controllers, one plate) for your topre board, I can also add cash.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 19 April 2013, 14:16:48
bavman could you post an update when the next batch of pcbs will be shipped out?

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 19 April 2013, 15:52:51
bavman could you post an update when the next batch of pcbs will be shipped out?



Whenever I have plates in my hand. I'm not sure when that will be exactly but I'll keep you guys up to date.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: rknize on Fri, 19 April 2013, 16:08:13
I received my PCB the other day in good condition.  Thanks bavman!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 19 April 2013, 16:24:00
bavman could you post an update when the next batch of pcbs will be shipped out?



Whenever I have plates in my hand. I'm not sure when that will be exactly but I'll keep you guys up to date.

hm... i have been waiting for the pcb/teensy without plate but i guess that the order swapping may have delayed it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Gupgup on Fri, 19 April 2013, 17:52:42
Any news on orders that had plates?


Gupgup
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sai on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:19:15
i believe my pcb will be going directly to WFD?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sleabo on Tue, 23 April 2013, 03:09:09
Hi
I have one PCB with teensy and plate to sell,
it hasnt arrived yet, if anyone wants to buy it perhaps I can arrange for it to be shipped directly to you
please email me at order@qwerkeys.co.uk
cheers
Sleabo
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:13:21
Just got news that I received my PCB and teensy at home!


Thanks :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bw on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:25:53
Everything is here in good condition.  Thanks!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:27:20
Does that mean plates are shipped out too?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:34:07
Does that mean plates are shipped out too?

From the plate GB thread:

Most of them are done and can be picked up late next week. No ETA on the low quantity designs, but they're in progress.
Late next week like around the 25th-26th? Also any chance there will be an extra ansi 150 plate?
Yeah, I'm scheduled to pick them up at those times. Sorry, no extra plates at all :( , I already spent more than I invoiced for so I didn't want to spend more on extras not knowing if they would be needed.

So I think that means WFD should get them end of this week. Then he will ship them to bavman. Then he packages them with our PCBs, etc. and ships them to us...correct?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:34:29
Any news on orders that had plates?
Gupgup

Nope, WFD is the one getting those made so I don't know until you guys do.

i believe my pcb will be going directly to WFD?

I'll check when I get home and let you know.

Does that mean plates are shipped out too?


Not yet, or that i know of at least
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:35:08
So I think that means WFD should get them end of this week. Then he will ship them to bavman. Then he packages them with our PCBs, etc. and ships them to us...correct?


Yup
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:40:35
The wait... it is killing me!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Tue, 23 April 2013, 23:28:37
Hey im absolutley terrible with programming. Could someone help me create this layout with fn layer?. I tried to understand what to do but my brain is NOT made for it lol. I dont mind giving a tip either :D

I want the numpad to look like this
1.5x with 7 bit. I would like this numpad on the function layer :) the right win key will be Fn
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/GeekHack/Phantom_v2.png



Code: [Select]
* ,---.   ,---------------. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,-----------.
 * |Esc|   |F1 |F2 |F3 |F4 | |F5 |F6 |F7 |F8 | |F9 |F10|F11|F12| |PrS|ScL|Pau|
 * `---'   `---------------' `---------------' `---------------' `-----------'
 * ,-----------------------------------------------------------. ,-----------.
 * |~  |  1|  2|  3|  4|  5|  6|  7|  8|  9|  0|  -|  =|Backsp | |Ins|Hom|PgU|
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
 * |Tab  |  Q|  W|  E|  R|  T|  Y|  U|  I|  O|  P|  [|  ]|    \| |Del|End|PgD|
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
 * |Caps  |  A|  S|  D|  F|  G|  H|  J|  K|  L|  ;|  '|Return  | |???|???|v- |
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
 * |Shift   |  Z|  X|  C|  V|  B|  N|  M|  ,|  .|  /|Shift     | |???|Up |v+ |
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
 * | Ctl |Gui| Alt |          Space   7x       | Alt | fn | Ctl | |Lef|Dow|Rig|
 * `-----------------------------------------------------------' `-----------'
 * ,---.   ,---------------. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,-----------.
 * |Esc|   |F1 |F2 |F3 |F4 | |F5 |F6 |F7 |F8 | |F9 |F10|F11|F12| |PrS|ScL|Pau|
 * `---'   `---------------' `---------------' `---------------' `-----------'
 * ,-----------------------------------------------------------. ,-----------.
 * |~  |  1|  2|  3|  4|  5|  6|  7|  8|  9|  0|  -|  =|Backsp | |Ins| + | - |
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
 * |Tab  |  Q|  W|  E|  R|  T|  Y|  U|  I|  O|  P|  [|  ]|    \| | 1 | 2 | 3 |
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
 * |Caps  |  A|  S|  D|  F|  G|  H|  J|  K|  L|  ;|  '|Return  | | 4 | 5 | 6 |
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
 * |Shift   |  Z|  X|  C|  V|  B|  N|  M|  ,|  .|  /|Shift     | | 7 | 8 | 9 |
 * |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
 * | Ctl |Gui| Alt |          Space   7x       | Alt | fn | Ctl | |clc|v- |v+ |
 * `-----------------------------------------------------------' `-----------'
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sai on Sun, 28 April 2013, 19:48:53
any update on the PCBs?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Sun, 28 April 2013, 21:35:51
bav, one question
i already got the PCB board without plate. will you ship the plate to me once you receive from WFD? Do I need to pay to extra?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 29 April 2013, 20:38:31
any update on the PCBs?

I've had them for a while, I'll be getting the plates from WFD soon and will bundle them together.

bav, one question
i already got the PCB board without plate. will you ship the plate to me once you receive from WFD? Do I need to pay to extra?

No need to pay extra, it was my mistake so I'll take care of it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sai on Mon, 29 April 2013, 20:45:58
any update on the PCBs?
I've had them for a while, I'll be getting the plates from WFD soon and will bundle them together.

i think you can just ship the pcb to WFD since he's going to build mine
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 29 April 2013, 21:06:35
any update on the PCBs?
I've had them for a while, I'll be getting the plates from WFD soon and will bundle them together.

i think you can just ship the pcb to WFD since he's going to build mine


I went to look up your order in my excel doc and I didn't see a Sai...I was about to pm you telling you that I don't have an order for you, but then I saw "formerly hoshidishi"  :))
It looks like I have you down for assembly with him so he'll get your order, all is good.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sai on Mon, 29 April 2013, 21:18:29
alright. i forgot to update about my change of username as well. :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Sat, 04 May 2013, 11:01:32
any update on the PCBs?

I've had them for a while, I'll be getting the plates from WFD soon and will bundle them together.

bav, one question
i already got the PCB board without plate. will you ship the plate to me once you receive from WFD? Do I need to pay to extra?


No need to pay extra, it was my mistake so I'll take care of it.

thanks!!!do you get the plates already?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 04 May 2013, 12:03:37
Hey Bavman,

Has my order shipped yet?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Mon, 06 May 2013, 14:37:40
Does anyone have a set that I can buy? Thanks!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:08:53
PM'd for address change.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:05:00
just curious, does anyone receive the plate&PCB from Bav?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:05:57
just curious, does anyone receive the plate&PCB from Bav?

I didn't but I'm expecting it soon.  Have there been any tracking numbers?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: phetto on Sun, 12 May 2013, 14:13:26
Where are they? :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 12 May 2013, 14:16:16
Wondering whether mine's been sent off too.. I'm itching to get soldering.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 12 May 2013, 19:06:05
I'm curious too, I thought this would be out by now
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Sun, 12 May 2013, 21:00:50
I got mine a while ago, believe in bavman!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jupiter on Mon, 13 May 2013, 16:13:35
So plate and PCB bundles have been shipped then?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Batmann on Mon, 13 May 2013, 16:46:27
Reveived mine on friday, I hope yours comes soon
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Mon, 13 May 2013, 17:02:47
So plate and PCB bundles have been shipped then?

All of the "normal" plates have been. Special plates were backed a few weeks and I think are out for delivery.

I have yet to receive the plate although I have the pcb set already.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 17:10:49
has anyone received both the PCB and the plates?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gliy on Mon, 13 May 2013, 17:20:10
does this mean there are no tracking numbers? can we at least get a spreadsheet of who's order has been shipped?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 13 May 2013, 23:09:35
Sorry I've been gone for the past couple days guys, but I just finished my last final of the year (and my undergraduate career) so I'm a lot more free now. I believe WFD should have most of the plates now and I'll get them shipped to me when he has the rest soon. Then I'll package your stuff if you ordered a PCB + Plates and ship to you. I'm sorry this has taken a long time guys but we've hit a couple snags that have slowed this GB down.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 14 May 2013, 01:13:51
Yes! We have every rotation of Halverson's  avatar! lol
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Fri, 17 May 2013, 18:48:14
anyone gets the plate&board? :-[
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:02:41
anyone gets the plate&board? :-[

not me
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:03:20
Got my PCB, thanks again!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:06:20
Got my PCB, thanks again!

did you get (PCB + Plate)?  I think those who did are the only ones still waiting.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:14:21
Plates have to be sent to Bavman first.  Then anyone who ordered a plate and a PCB will get them shipped.   The delay has been to get the non-standard plates from Beast->WFD.  Then they go WFD->Bavman.  Don't ask me why
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:26:56
Plates have to be sent to Bavman first.  Then anyone who ordered a plate and a PCB will get them shipped.   The delay has been to get the non-standard plates from Beast->WFD.  Then they go WFD->Bavman.  Don't ask me why

easy, pay more money for shipping, more delay i guess ^.^
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:12:45
anyone gets the plate&board? :-[

not me
i guess they have been shipped? :eek:
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:49:12
Plates have to be sent to Bavman first.  Then anyone who ordered a plate and a PCB will get them shipped.   The delay has been to get the non-standard plates from Beast->WFD.  Then they go WFD->Bavman.  Don't ask me why

I got a standard plates.  Should they be delivered by now?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:53:51
Plates have to be sent to Bavman first.  Then anyone who ordered a plate and a PCB will get them shipped.   The delay has been to get the non-standard plates from Beast->WFD.  Then they go WFD->Bavman.  Don't ask me why

I got a standard plates.  Should they be delivered by now?

No. WFD had the plates made, but had to wait on the "low-quantity" designs to be delivered from The_Beast. Then WFD is shipping ALL the plates to Bavman, to be shipped out with the PCB orders that had plates.

ANYONE who ordered a plate with their PCB should NOT have received anything, yet. Unless you made some special arrangements with Bavman and/or WFD.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 13:30:38
Plates have to be sent to Bavman first.  Then anyone who ordered a plate and a PCB will get them shipped.   The delay has been to get the non-standard plates from Beast->WFD.  Then they go WFD->Bavman.  Don't ask me why

I got a standard plates.  Should they be delivered by now?

No. WFD had the plates made, but had to wait on the "low-quantity" designs to be delivered from The_Beast. Then WFD is shipping ALL the plates to Bavman, to be shipped out with the PCB orders that had plates.

ANYONE who ordered a plate with their PCB should NOT have received anything, yet. Unless you made some special arrangements with Bavman and/or WFD.

thats sad for me :-X
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gliy on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:49:07
Bump, any update on expected shipping date?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Sun, 26 May 2013, 20:27:24
bavman, sent you a PM. Please let me know when you ship my PCB.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Mon, 27 May 2013, 11:05:52
bavman, sent you a PM. Please let me know when you ship my PCB.
please let us know if you get sth from him :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: phetto on Wed, 29 May 2013, 19:14:36
Have you shipped my PCB and plate to sweden yet? If not, I would like to change the destination where the stuff is going to. Hope you see this before it gets shipped out.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 29 May 2013, 19:22:37
Would like to know if mine's shipped. I know my order has been swapped around a lot so confirmation would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jmneuv on Fri, 31 May 2013, 06:15:58
Looking for one leftover R2 PCB only. Thanks
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 31 May 2013, 06:27:08
Guys, I don't know whats up with this Phantom thing, but we have to get some communication.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sai on Fri, 31 May 2013, 06:28:27
Guys, I don't know whats up with this Phantom thing, but we have to get some communication.

this
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 31 May 2013, 06:55:50
Guys, I don't know whats up with this Phantom thing, but we have to get some communication.

Qft.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pasph on Fri, 31 May 2013, 07:24:03
Guys, I don't know whats up with this Phantom thing, but we have to get some communication.

+1
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pandather on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:00:25
Does anyone have a spare PCB I can buy?  My QFR's is messed up, so I'm in a desperate need for one, I'll pay $10 more thank you payed and shipping, also do not need a plate, as I already have one.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gliy on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:30:16
I'm confused, everyone gets mad at prof for bad communication, but this group buy has equally bad communication, yet no one complains.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:32:05
I'm confused, everyone gets mad at prof for bad communication, but this group buy has equally bad communication, yet no one complains.

If you PM bavman he replies with helpful relevant informatoin....thats a pretty big difference
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:56:19
I'm confused, everyone gets mad at prof for bad communication, but this group buy has equally bad communication, yet no one complains.

If bavman goes off the grid and only drops in to taunt us, then I will be equally as mad.  As it is, clearly I'm not a happy man.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:05:41
bavman has answered every question I've pm'ed him

your mileage may vary.....
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: hluo87 on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:10:06
so what is the latest status of the shipment?
 
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:33:45
bavman's not going anywhere. Unlike Profosist that actually decides to ignore everyone, bavman does respond (at least to me), but it may take up to a few days.

I just got the PCBs, and plates that he will combine should get there in a few days. I spent 3 hours last night packaging and shipping plates.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:37:18
bavman's not going anywhere. Unlike Profosist that actually decides to ignore everyone, bavman does respond (at least to me), but it may take up to a few days.

I just got the PCBs, and plates that he will combine should get there in a few days. I spent 3 hours last night packaging and shipping plates.
Don't rub it in. :'(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 31 May 2013, 18:58:54
So the long awaited plates that have been holding up PCB shipping are finally going to be combined and shipped some time in the next week or so?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 31 May 2013, 19:46:14
Sorry I haven't updated you guys, I've just been waiting too, but I'll ship out whenever I get the plates no worries.
I've been a little slow on my PMs, but I usually catch up every day or two but I will PM you back. Sometimes I haven't replied to PMs about address changes, but if the PM is in your sent folder then I have it and noted the change.

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Sat, 01 June 2013, 20:44:58
Can you ship my PCB as I am no longer getting a plate (as per my PM)?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 03 June 2013, 15:46:25
Quick update: Got the plates today in the mail. I'm going to start packing stuff tonight or tomorrow and will try to send out several everyday. Hopefully by the end of the week everything will be sent out.

It's been a long wait
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 03 June 2013, 15:47:42
*high five*
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: aggiejy on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:32:49
<party dance>
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pandather on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:41:46
Does anyone want to sell me their PCB and/or kit?  I don't need a plate.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Tue, 04 June 2013, 07:18:23
it's happening! :eek:
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 June 2013, 07:39:23
Does anyone want to sell me their PCB and/or kit?  I don't need a plate.

^^ I'm looking for an additional phantom kit with teensy and diodes also!!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: reverkiller on Tue, 04 June 2013, 09:41:46
I AM SO EXCITE
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rayne on Tue, 04 June 2013, 16:24:49
i really wish i could have gotten in on this, ended before i joined geekhack tho, oh well, hopefully there will be a round 3 at some point.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Tue, 04 June 2013, 16:45:57
i really wish i could have gotten in on this, ended before i joined geekhack tho, oh well, hopefully there will be a round 3 at some point.
I'd sell you my ANSI150 plate and PCB but it's tied up in TPs group buy and I don't think you'd want in on that.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rayne on Tue, 04 June 2013, 17:04:51
I'd sell you my ANSI150 plate and PCB but it's tied up in TPs group buy and I don't think you'd want in on that.
Yeah I would just want the parts so I can build/solder it my self
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Fri, 07 June 2013, 04:21:26
Is there a list anywhere showing whats been shipped/what hasn't?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 07 June 2013, 19:32:36
Almost there. I'm going to have the first batch out tonight and will cover around ~50% of all the orders. Hopefully I'll have the rest out by the weekend sometime.
So US orders should expect their packages sometime next week and international is around 10 days.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: remmeh on Fri, 07 June 2013, 19:46:54
Awesome, been waiting a long time for this. Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 07 June 2013, 20:45:47
Bavman,

Did we already pay for insurance?
I want to make sure I have it for mine, since apparently my postman likes to deliver  to neighbors that steal my mail.

Thanks.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 08 June 2013, 01:30:27
Will we get tracking numbers or no?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 08 June 2013, 06:06:38
If anyone ends up with a pcb they don't want please PM me. I'd like to get one that comes with a teensy, diodes, etc, etc. Thanks.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:26:42
Okay so here is what's out so far (this includes people whose order went to WDF or have already shipped in the past, I was too lazy to take those out). I mostly went in order of when people ordered but I had to skip around a little because I ran out of international shipping boxes. So if your an international person I'll have your order out when I get more boxes in a couple days from now.

Edit: I also completely forgot to fill out emails when I was shipping so I don't think anyone got their tracking number (for US people only). If it becomes an issue to where your package hasn't shown up by the end of the week or you really need to know just PM and I'll get it for you.

metalliqaz
jdcarpe
Dgsbllx
phetto
isman
korne
blighty
mashby
BimboBB
nebo
boost
reverkiller
Halverson
samwisekoi
rknize
gnubag
dorkvader
jean_popovitch
gizzard
DanGWanG
Acanthophis
tjcaustin
Keebo27
ElTwig
Amarok
Rendom
Gameaholic
Holidayshrimp
hluo87
Grimey
ekw808
WhiteFireDragon
csimi
Saviant
Amr0d
longweight
remmeh
i3oilermaker
Oproer
Acetrak
Binge
t2russo
pasph
Wogdog
daerid
NikoGasm
roadblock2thesun
affect656
Takaki
Atakp
marq
salmo
TheQsanity
tubby
hoggy
rindorbrot
snoopy
tipo33
kmiller8
simkev
Jupiter
The_Beast
sleepy916
___red___
FabsSpeed
hoshidishi

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:28:53
Thank you very much for the confirmation bavman! I cannot wait to get my PCB!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:34:27
Okay list updated. I had used Ctrl to highlight non-adj boxes in excel but it copied everything it between so names appeared that shouldn't have. I'm shooting for the rest of US orders to be done by tomorrow and int'l whenever my boxes come
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: reverkiller on Mon, 10 June 2013, 12:33:03
I AM EVEN MORE EXCITE NOW

Thank you for everything :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 13:55:46
Hey bavman, did mine get shipped to TP? I'd expect it to but kind of hoping it didn't....
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 10 June 2013, 14:38:39
^ I have all PCBs and plates that were suppose to go to Profosist. I told bavman to ship them to me, regardless of what profosist said when he tried to stop it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 14:47:21
^ I have all PCBs and plates that were suppose to go to Profosist. I told bavman to ship them to me, regardless of what profosist said when he tried to stop it.
My hero! *swoon*

Even though I asked for assembly I'll probably end up doing it myself now unless he posts in his thread in the next few days.


EDIT - When you get them, can you PM me? Want it shipped to me (obviously I'll cover whatever shipping costs there are). I'm even trying to get 7bit to get my switches to me since I don't think TP has them yet.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Grimey on Mon, 10 June 2013, 20:49:15
Hurray my name is on the list.  Don't recall what I ordered at this point but I will be happy when it gets here.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 10 June 2013, 20:51:00
BTW, if anyone needs assembly services with the Profosist MIA, PM me and we can work something out.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Mon, 10 June 2013, 22:11:07
Did mine get out already? You said early last week and I don't even have a plate.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Acetrak on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:28:08
hi I have a Phantom I'm selling in case people are still looking for extra's.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:25:17
hi I have a Phantom I'm selling in case people are still looking for extra's.

Looking!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rayne on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:39:34
hi I have a Phantom I'm selling in case people are still looking for extra's.

Looking!
he apparently sold it already :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:42:12
BTW, if anyone needs assembly services with the Profosist MIA, PM me and we can work something out.
Same here, I'm thinking Beast and I on on the same page.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jmneuv on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:59:11
what's next anyway.. Phantom v2?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 11 June 2013, 16:30:13
what's next anyway.. Phantom v2?

This is already v2, next would be v3. Should be end of this year or early next year.

Considering how this ended up with TheProfosist story, I wonder who would want to host one again. lol
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Tue, 11 June 2013, 16:31:04
This is still V1. It is the second round of it, but the PCB is the same.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 11 June 2013, 16:32:07
what's next anyway.. Phantom v2?

This is already v2, next would be v3. Should be end of this year or early next year.

Considering how this ended up with TheProfosist story, I wonder who would want to host one again. lol

No, this isn't Phantom 2.0. This was a second ordering round for Phantom PCBs. I doubt there will be a third. bpiphany is working on a project, but you would have to ask him for the status.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 11 June 2013, 16:32:29
This is still V1. It is the second round of it, but the PCB is the same.

Ah, rounds, and round...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 11 June 2013, 16:35:06
BTW, if anyone needs assembly services with the Profosist MIA, PM me and we can work something out.

I don't think it's a matter of just sending the plates/PCB to someone else to build. There are plenty of people that can build. But the problem is that Profosist already collected the assembly money, and also has all the parts tied up. If anyone else wants to assemble these phantoms, don't count on Profosist paying you back at the end. You're basically doing it free.



what's next anyway.. Phantom v2?

This is already v2, next would be v3. Should be end of this year or early next year.

Considering how this ended up with TheProfosist story, I wonder who would want to host one again. lol

There is a difference. This is round 2 of the same PCB. v2 would imply that there are revisions to the PCB, which is not true. The only difference between the round1 and round2 PCBs are some of the fonts are now bold, and the 4 extra holes for each switch is now gone. Other than that, everything else is identical.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: BimboBB on Wed, 12 June 2013, 04:10:14
what's next anyway.. Phantom v2?

I think bpiphany was working on creating a phantom pcb for fullsize keyboards. \o/
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Dgsbllx on Wed, 12 June 2013, 04:45:47
Sees name on list; rejoices

My first (full) build will soon begin  ;D

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jmneuv on Wed, 12 June 2013, 04:52:29
I think bpiphany was working on creating a phantom pcb for fullsize keyboards. \o/
!!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Wed, 12 June 2013, 11:18:59
bavman is there any update on the names not on that list you posted monday?

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Wed, 12 June 2013, 14:17:14
bavman is there any update on the names not on that list you posted monday?



Yes I will post them when I'm home, but they are packed and will be dropped off today.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: remmeh on Wed, 12 June 2013, 17:08:00
Got mine! That was really quick!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Thu, 13 June 2013, 15:51:43
No sign of mine today so I guess tomorrow at the earliest... and The Last of Us for PS3 arrives tomorrow. #firstworldproblems

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 13 June 2013, 23:24:59
I have an extra set of (PCB + controller + Plate), just got it in the mail today if anyone wants it.  PM me with offer.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rayne on Fri, 14 June 2013, 00:29:21
pm'd
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 01:09:55
BTW, thanks Bavman!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Sat, 15 June 2013, 15:35:42
tracking sir bavman?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 15 June 2013, 17:09:01
ETA on shipping out the other PCB's?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gliy on Sun, 16 June 2013, 18:43:22
yup would be great if i could get the tracking info :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 16 June 2013, 18:44:26
Any update on the names you didn't post before?

bavman is there any update on the names not on that list you posted monday?



Yes I will post them when I'm home, but they are packed and will be dropped off today.

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Sun, 16 June 2013, 21:13:33
come on bav, i know you aint sketchy/shady, just busy i imagine.

hook me up with status, i'm cool with delays as long as i know my phantom stuffs is safe. This stuff isn't cheap.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Mon, 17 June 2013, 16:48:56
update

i just got my phantom parts, safe
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Mon, 17 June 2013, 18:12:08
PCB arrived, haven't checked 100% but it looks good.

Glad I'm out of the woods on this GB. Wasn't bav's fault; it was a cluster.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 17 June 2013, 18:17:27
update

i just got my phantom parts, safe

Yep, I wasn't in the first batch of mailing, but I got mine today.
Thanks Bav!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Tranquilite on Mon, 17 June 2013, 21:34:01
update

i just got my phantom parts, safe

Yep, I wasn't in the first batch of mailing, but I got mine today.
Thanks Bav!

Same here. Quite the pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 17 June 2013, 22:25:32
I got mine today. And I was not on the first list of names. Now to find a case... waiting on takaki's GB i guess
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 18 June 2013, 04:38:44
Glad to see all this is starting to come through and people finally getting the whole package. Although, there is still a small group that is tied down by the whole mess with Profosist.

I just assembled one of these and recorded it, so I'll upload the video in the next day. I do it a tad different than the instructions on DT.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 18 June 2013, 06:30:54
Glad to see all this is starting to come through and people finally getting the whole package. Although, there is still a small group that is tied down by the whole mess with Profosist.

I just assembled one of these and recorded it, so I'll upload the video in the next day. I do it a tad different than the instructions on DT.

Can't wait for it !
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 June 2013, 06:33:50
Glad to see all this is starting to come through and people finally getting the whole package. Although, there is still a small group that is tied down by the whole mess with Profosist.

I just assembled one of these and recorded it, so I'll upload the video in the next day. I do it a tad different than the instructions on DT.

^^ This will come in handy!! More WFD videos = AWESOME!!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Tue, 18 June 2013, 13:43:19
No shipping notice yet. My phantom is living up to it's name :(

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:25:30
No shipping notice yet. My phantom is living up to it's name :(

[)amien

I didn't get a notice. I don't think anyone is getting individual notices. Mine just showed up
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:28:43
No shipping notice yet. My phantom is living up to it's name :(

[)amien

I didn't get a notice. I don't think anyone is getting individual notices. Mine just showed up

Mine just showed up on my doorstep today, no idea it was coming.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Tue, 18 June 2013, 16:07:37
got one of my phantoms up almost everything tested and works so really i have zero complaints except one about this groupbuy or the plate group buy where the issue i don't think was WFD's fault.

my only complaint is tracking would have been nice. I am paranoid as hell about my mail.

thanks bavman, thanks WFD! and thanks to anyone else involved in more minor roles in this round 2, like bpiphany.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Tue, 18 June 2013, 17:00:53
WFD, just curious as all these went out if you got all the ones headed to TP yet?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 18 June 2013, 18:21:16
Is it best to leave the spacers on when soldering the teensy, or should I take them off so they are not sticking out as much? Looking for maximum compatibility with cases in the future so I'm leaning towards removing the spacers before soldering.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Tue, 18 June 2013, 18:28:50
I'm sorry about the lack of updates guys but I got real busy real quick.

Basically all but 1 US order is out, but only some internationals. I finally got the rest of the boxes to ship everything else so they should be going out sometime this week.

Is it best to leave the spacers on when soldering the teensy, or should I take them off so they are not sticking out as much? Looking for maximum compatibility with cases in the future so I'm leaning towards removing the spacers before soldering.

It's highly recommended you do, but they are a pita to remove, you have to do it slowly or you'll bend/break pins.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Tue, 18 June 2013, 18:41:11
Is it best to leave the spacers on when soldering the teensy, or should I take them off so they are not sticking out as much? Looking for maximum compatibility with cases in the future so I'm leaning towards removing the spacers before soldering.

its going to have a larger compatibility if you take the spaces off, slap some electrical tape underneath and then solder close to the board, its what WFD suggests and it worked great for me to fit into vortex aluminium case, otherwise it wouldn't fit.


its a ***** to get the spacers off though i cheated and used xacto knife and sliced it up
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 18 June 2013, 19:13:01
Weird, I took one off no problem then put it back on before asking. I will be cautious though, thanks for the information.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:15:37
Basically all but 1 US order is out, but only some internationals. I finally got the rest of the boxes to ship everything else so they should be going out sometime this week.

Did the internationals ship yet?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:20:23
I'm still waiting on my plate.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: madderoftime on Mon, 24 June 2013, 22:48:44
Does anyone know if there is any GBs or sets of the Phantom PCB and plates are available? Looks awesome but as usual I'm finding it too late. :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 25 June 2013, 03:09:34
Does anyone know if there is any GBs or sets of the Phantom PCB and plates are available? Looks awesome but as usual I'm finding it too late. :(


You could keep an eye out on the classified.

I highly doubt there will be another GB running anytime soon. Round 2 took place about a year after round 1.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 25 June 2013, 23:01:09
Any updates on the international orders?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Fri, 28 June 2013, 19:59:45
Haven't seen my domestic yet. Looks like Bavman hasn't been on all week.

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Sat, 29 June 2013, 11:46:37
Common just let us know if its shipped or not is that too much to ask  :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Poom on Mon, 01 July 2013, 07:22:11
when will we have round 3?

or is there any left overs? im interested in 1 or 2.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Tue, 02 July 2013, 10:58:17
Still no sign of BavMan. After 5 months of waiting for a Phantom PCB & plate and getting closer and closer I'm now starting to suspect I won't be getting it :(

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 02 July 2013, 12:37:07
Common just let us know if its shipped or not is that too much to ask  :(

Yes.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: asura on Tue, 02 July 2013, 13:53:34
The man hasn't been on since the 24th, so he's not heard most of the requests for updates; as of his last post, he was waiting for appropriate packaging.  One can only assume that life (that pesky thing) is getting in the way a bit.  It happens.  The fact that all but 1 US order has gone out shows that bavman hasn't disappeared into the sunset with our money leaving only promises of updates which either never appear or are cryptic non-updates (too soon?) have faith, be patient, and pull up a stool.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Poom on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:48:58
oops... is this another one of those GB gone wrong? :confused:
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 02 July 2013, 15:44:35
oops... is this another one of those GB gone wrong? :confused:

Probably just busy. I'd give it another week or 2.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 02 July 2013, 23:16:42
I'm wondering if I'm the last US order. My soldering iron is just waiting for now :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: asura on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:18:05
If they went out by alphabetical username then... maybe - sucks for whomever, and us internationals, but they'll get here eventually.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Wed, 03 July 2013, 09:44:03
I'm wondering if I'm the last US order. My soldering iron is just waiting for now :(

Hmm, I thought I was the last US order based on an PM with BavMan 10 days ago... Anyone else in the USA not get theirs?

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Batmann on Sun, 07 July 2013, 17:00:49
I'm waiting for mine too, Bavman is probably busy, he didn't answer my pms,
amyway I hope I get it soon
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 07 July 2013, 17:02:53
I have no doubt that bavman will fulfill our orders. I just wish he'd take a few minutes out of his obviously busy schedule and update us. I thought this PCB would be the first of my parts to arrive.. Now I think it'll be the last :/
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: litster on Sun, 07 July 2013, 17:25:12
His profile says he hasn't been on since "Mon, 24 June 2013, 09:38:23."
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:15:31
Again, I have no doubt that you will fulfill our orders bavman, but I must say this is getting a little ridiculous. You have the PCBs in your hands, please take the time to ship them out or at the very least pay Geekhack a visit to update us on the situation. I have in fact ordered a KMAC PCB since I fear the Phantom won't arrive in time.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Tue, 09 July 2013, 18:05:31
Yeah he has both my PCB and iso plate. These clear switches and retro caps just gathering dust...

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: xSpartanCx on Wed, 10 July 2013, 20:55:15
Dang, I can't believe I was only a few days late... Anybody know when there will be another GB for phantom sets?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Wed, 10 July 2013, 21:12:34
Dang, I can't believe I was only a few days late... Anybody know when there will be another GB for phantom sets?

a few days late? orders closed more than half a year ago lol

This was the last group buy for Phantom v1, but it is possible another group buy for a phantom v2 or a Phantom-like TKL Cherry MX keyboard will be happening early to mid next year. Mechanicalkeyboards.com  has expressed interest in their forum in having some Phantom v1 PCBs produced if they can acquire all the other parts needed--This would not be a group buy but instead something offered by their store and this could take months to happen.

as for those orders that haven't shipped, bavman obviously isnt a scammer so i hope he is just busy and everything is ok, 2 weeks is an eternity for a group buy organizer to go inactive while having unshipped items.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: xSpartanCx on Wed, 10 July 2013, 21:29:56
Lol sorry, I keep getting mixed up with this forum. I keep thinking it's in order of forum post,  not most recent reply. So no more buys for a while? Does that mean I should go out and buy a Majestouch TKL now, instead of waiting to get a phantom first?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Wed, 10 July 2013, 21:45:08
i mean that is totally up to you, going to Filco is a decision some make here. something like the phantom you wont see for sale for a while. there are some korean custom programmables out there but nothing exactly like the phantom.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 10 July 2013, 22:02:39
There have been at least a half dozen PCB kits sold in the last few weeks in the classifieds.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tgujay on Thu, 11 July 2013, 10:18:59
There have been at least a half dozen PCB kits sold in the last few weeks in the classifieds.

Not enough, haha.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Sat, 13 July 2013, 20:16:22
[...]
as for those orders that haven't shipped, bavman obviously isnt a scammer so i hope he is just busy and everything is ok, 2 weeks is an eternity for a group buy organizer to go inactive while having unshipped items.

seriously i hope the dude is ok.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 16 July 2013, 12:21:13
I know what it means to organize a group buy, I'm not in a hurry and I don't mind waiting other two months before receiving my order... but this lack of updates is killing me :)

does anyone know bavman personally? I don't see him online since a few weeks, hope everything is okay... maybe he is just on vacation :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Batmann on Tue, 16 July 2013, 13:56:47
I also hope he's just having some sweet time in Tijuana and that he'll be back safe and sound with a book of stamps in his backpack!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 19 July 2013, 00:36:03
Everyone else is building their Phantoms. And I'm just sitting here :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 19 July 2013, 13:11:05
Everyone else is building their Phantoms. And I'm just sitting here :(

pretty sure spider man doesn't give a....oh wait...;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Fri, 19 July 2013, 14:02:57
Everyone else is building their Phantoms. And I'm just sitting here :(

Certainly nobody in Europe is. Maybe this GB will be the new Round 4  :))
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Fri, 19 July 2013, 17:33:49
I have genuine concern for bavman and that the delays are part of something going wrong. Almost a month inactive. Only way to clear that up is for him to log in and say he is ok.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 20 July 2013, 23:44:02
I have genuine concern for bavman and that the delays are part of something going wrong. Almost a month inactive. Only way to clear that up is for him to log in and say he is ok.

Oh, please don't say that. I have too much invested in this GB to have those types of issues pop up. I can't handle another Changedrew saga ATM.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Mon, 22 July 2013, 10:40:36
Has anyone received their non-ansi125' plates?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sleabo on Mon, 22 July 2013, 10:53:51
not received anything
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Grimey on Mon, 22 July 2013, 10:54:53
Has anyone received their non-ansi125' plates?

I received a ansi125 with double backspace & double right shift switch positions, not sure if this is what you are asking about though.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Mon, 22 July 2013, 11:01:48
Has anyone received their non-ansi125' plates?

I received a ansi125 with double backspace & double right shift switch positions, not sure if this is what you are asking about though.

Yah, I was wondering if anyone got their "special plates" eg wfd125 pro150 etc etc.

After going through the posts it seems I am just coupled with the other bavman error shipments.

Hope he's ok...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Grimey on Mon, 22 July 2013, 13:55:37
(http://i.imgur.com/UUYHW8Rl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/UUYHW8R)

Just to clarify, but I have seen others with this plate as well that have been completed, so I think your assumption is correct.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 23 July 2013, 03:00:23
I'm not allowed to speak, all I can say is: please be patient. Life sometimes beats hard.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 July 2013, 05:02:55
I'm not allowed to speak, all I can say is: please be patience. Life sometimes beats hard.

Are you confirming he's just busy and unable to ship at this moment? I surely hope this is the case and bavman is ok, because it's very odd for him to disappear for this long when he was literally in the middle of shipping packages.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 23 July 2013, 05:41:16
Are you confirming he's just busy and unable to ship at this moment? I surely hope this is the case and bavman is ok, because it's very odd for him to disappear for this long when he was literally in the middle of shipping packages.

I talked to him. He is fine, just unable to work on this at the moment. I don't want to talk about his personal manners. I just wanted to be sure he was fine. He is. We just need to wait he is back on track.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 23 July 2013, 05:41:57
Are you confirming he's just busy and unable to ship at this moment? I surely hope this is the case and bavman is ok, because it's very odd for him to disappear for this long when he was literally in the middle of shipping packages.

I talked to him. He is fine, just unable to work on this at the moment. I don't want to talk about his personal manners. I just wanted to be sure he was fine. He is. We just need to wait he is back on track.
This is very good to hear.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: maxmalkav on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:59:34
I'm one of those waiting for the missing plates. I hope bavman can solve his issues (and getting the plates would be nice too ;) )
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Tue, 23 July 2013, 23:29:56
Are you confirming he's just busy and unable to ship at this moment? I surely hope this is the case and bavman is ok, because it's very odd for him to disappear for this long when he was literally in the middle of shipping packages.

I talked to him. He is fine, just unable to work on this at the moment. I don't want to talk about his personal manners. I just wanted to be sure he was fine. He is. We just need to wait he is back on track.
and he can't take 1 min to come on and tell us himself? Must be debt or something
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 24 July 2013, 18:22:42
I'm starting to think this 2nd round Phantom GB is cursed. First Prof now Bavman... Let's just hope for a good ending.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 24 July 2013, 18:23:22
I'm starting to think this 2nd round Phantom GB is cursed. First Prof now Bavman... Let's just hope for a good ending.
At least we now have confirmation that bavman is OK and is working to get this sorted. Those are the two most important things :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 25 July 2013, 20:45:19
I'm starting to think this 2nd round Phantom GB is cursed. First Prof now Bavman... Let's just hope for a good ending.
At least we now have confirmation that bavman is OK and is working to get this sorted. Those are the two most important things :)

I'm glad to hear that everything is ok with Bavman. I was also really feeling bad for Prof for awhile, because I know he's a great guy and stuff happens. If we learn anything from these GBs, it's that communication helps during the whole process. Even when things are going bad.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 26 July 2013, 14:56:13
Probably a stupid question, but do Phantom PCBs fit under stock Filco plates at all in terms of switch alignment?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:30:06
Probably a stupid question, but do Phantom PCBs fit under stock Filco plates at all in terms of switch alignment?

Yes. You can use the plate with your pcb.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bavman on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:54:31
Hi guys. I wanted to first apologize for my absence the past several weeks. With the passing of a close family member and some financial issues (car gave out and I had to replace it) it been a little rough. My time at home has been limited and usually pretty busy.
That being said, I wanted you guys to know that I'm okay though and I haven't forgotten about this gb. I'll work my hardest to get the rest of the orders out. I have a couple domestic orders and roughly half the international orders still with me. I'm going to sit down today and sort everyone's remaining orders out and start packing again. 
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:57:04
Hi guys. I wanted to first apologize for my absence the past several weeks. With the passing of a close family member and some financial issues (car gave out and I had to replace it) it been a little rough. My time at home has been limited and usually pretty busy.
That being said, I wanted you guys to know that I'm okay though and I haven't forgotten about this gb. I'll work my hardest to get the rest of the orders out. I have a couple domestic orders and roughly half the international orders still with me. I'm going to sit down today and sort everyone's remaining orders out and start packing again.
Thanks for the update bavman, and thanks for trying to get this sorted out. Very sorry to hear about your issues :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: maxmalkav on Fri, 26 July 2013, 17:02:34
Glad to know you are ok bavman, sorry for your loss and the other issues.
It's great knowing everything goes on, personally I'm not in a hurry, for me, you can take your time, when I'll receive my order I won't be able to open it until December ;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 26 July 2013, 17:42:40
welcome back bavman and thanks for the update.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 26 July 2013, 19:48:34
Also very sorry for your loss. And thank you for keeping us posted :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: longweight on Wed, 07 August 2013, 05:47:40
Hi,


I haven't received my order here in the UK, has it been shipped?


Thanks


Long
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Fri, 09 August 2013, 21:09:48
Hey Bavman, if you let people know where you are based there might be a few fellow GH'ers who can give you a hand?

Just a thought,

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Sat, 10 August 2013, 09:42:31
Hi,


I haven't received my order here in the UK, has it been shipped?


Thanks


Long

Neither have I so perhaps he just hasn't shipped them yet
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Sleabo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 10:23:54
Hi,


I haven't received my order here in the UK, has it been shipped?


Thanks


Long

neither have I
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 14 August 2013, 23:05:34
Any updates bavman?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Jhors2 on Thu, 15 August 2013, 22:33:13
I'm sure all of these are spoken for but doesn't hurt to ask.  Are there any leftovers from this?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Slavfot on Fri, 16 August 2013, 00:55:54
there is no info about leftovers and we who ordered haven't recieved ours yet.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 16 August 2013, 08:45:17
I'm sure all of these are spoken for but doesn't hurt to ask.  Are there any leftovers from this?

There have been many phantoms sold in the classifieds.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 17 August 2013, 02:52:48
:(

I keep hoping it will magically appear on my door step. My life keeps getting busier and busier and I'm starting to wonder if I even have time now to build these.

Edit: Any chance on an update Bavman :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: longweight on Sun, 18 August 2013, 06:56:11
So what is going on? Has anyone received theirs?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 18 August 2013, 07:00:01
So what is going on? Has anyone received theirs?
He has shipped a large amount of the US orders, and some of the international orders. Then he disappeared for quite a while, then posted this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg975152#msg975152) and hasn't said anything since..
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: mashby on Tue, 20 August 2013, 12:04:19
So what is going on? Has anyone received theirs?

I received mine because it was part of the batch that was sent to WhiteFireDragon.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 20 August 2013, 12:07:51
I received mine because it was part of the batch that was sent to WhiteFireDragon.

Ditto
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 20 August 2013, 12:17:39
I am available at proxing all orders to EU if that helps.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 20 August 2013, 12:25:59
I am available at proxing all orders to EU if that helps.
Thank you matt3o.. at this point I actually hope bavman takes you up on your offer :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 21 August 2013, 22:32:57
I hope the rest of the US orders make it out as well. I really want to assemble these now.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Wed, 21 August 2013, 23:04:51
Being that they were supposed to have shipped out two months ago and that nobody has posted to say they have received theirs since Bavman logged in two weeks ago I'm not holding much hope :(

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 August 2013, 07:50:52
Phantom R2 just hasn't worked out so well :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pasph on Thu, 22 August 2013, 08:14:08
bavman is mia
theprof is a scammer
the only viable custom case is through a messy gb

I really hope that GH60 will go better
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 22 August 2013, 14:55:08
Don't say that :(

I'm currently trying I reach out to a few members to get an update.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:41:22
Phantom R2 just hasn't worked out so well :(
too many people involved

glad mine arrived when it did
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:49:34
Phantom R2 just hasn't worked out so well :(
too many people involved

glad mine arrived when it did

Like salt in an open wound
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Thu, 22 August 2013, 22:00:00
bavman's coming back, might take a little more time.

he's not a complete flake (and likely thief) like prof
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Thu, 22 August 2013, 22:57:08
yeah bavman seemed to me to be a good dude, and i did get mine. It sucks people still don't have theirs.

With something bad happening with bavman midway through getting out orders, the **** with prof which i--among many--am a victim of, and the plate delays (long over with now though), it just seemed like this GB had some genuine bad luck.

i don't think the same thing is going to happen with the GH60s; there is more people involved which i think means various contingencies for disasters. Though, i do feel the GH60 will experience some major delays due to an overwhelming amount of orders and the variety of those orders including all the plates that have to be cut.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Thu, 22 August 2013, 23:47:32
using gb money to buy things then not having enough to send items. Not cool!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pasph on Fri, 23 August 2013, 04:44:05
I'm sure bavman is mia for some legit (hope not too bad) reason, the prof is just a <insert your favorite insult here>
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 25 August 2013, 22:52:59
Well we're passing the 1 month mark since the last update. Anyone want to call him to see what the current progress is?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 26 August 2013, 02:08:38
I'm available at proxing orders in EU. I sent him an email but got no reply.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:21:35
ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:23:16
This is becoming a little ridiculous.. It can't possibly take more than a day or two to ship out those orders..
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:41:05
I reached out to a few members about possibly contacting Bavman for an update. I'm sure several of us could give Bavman a hand in finishing this. It would be much better to get this all shipped out and be done with this Phantom R2.

If anyone could reach out to Bavman or provide me contact details I will try to contact him.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:42:56
I reached out to a few members about possibly contacting Bavman for an update. I'm sure several of us could give Bavman a hand in finishing this. It would be much better to get this all shipped out and be done with this Phantom R2.

If anyone could reach out to Bavman or provide me contact details I will try to contact him.
Yeah. I'm more than happy to help in any way that I can. Matt3o has already offered to proxy EU orders, but I could maybe proxy some aswell in order to make it less of a pain in the ass for matt3o.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:59:52
This whole Phantom GB is really depressing. First Prof ****ing everything up and now almost a month of silence from bavman for some unknown reason. I'm sure he doesn't mean it in a wrong way and I hope he's ok since he was very active and supportive during the whole GB but I mean no word or response at all for this long is just weird.. Doesn't anybody know him personally so we know what's going on?
The only thing that actually was delivered even due to some difficulty were the plates by WFD and Beast as far as I know, props for that. Even though most of you don't even have em because bavman has these as well. Meh!
There are also enough people reaching out a helping hand, so buck up and let's get this over with!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 29 August 2013, 22:15:11
At this point someone needs to reach out to him as he hasn't been on the forums in over a month.

This is the lack of communication I talk about when I see group buys go south. I understand we all face life challenges but when you have so many people depending on you this becomes a concern.

We're a community, we'll help you package, ship, and communicate Bavman if you'd just reach out and ask for it. I'd even put money down if your temporarily short on funds.

Please let us know how we can help!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:30:50
Does anyone know another way we can contact him? A phone number we can reach him on? An address we can send mail to? Because at this point he's practically disappeared off the net..
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:38:19
at this point we have to accept the fact that we might not see our phantoms any time soon. it's part of the risk of a GB. glad to be proven wrong.

maybe one year from now bavman will be back and fulfill all missing orders.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:43:52
True. It sucks but I'm sure we'll get our orders eventually. I'm glad I bought a KMAC PCB as backup now though..
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 30 August 2013, 12:26:32
Yeah I'm in the same boat Photekq. I have enough keyboards to keep me busy for some time, but I really respect the Phantom project and it's disappointing to see its current state.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Sat, 31 August 2013, 10:24:07
I've not got much hope left for this now but perhaps it will still happen yet. All we can do is wait.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 01 September 2013, 18:01:39
Just sent Bavman an email, hopefully we can help out to get this going again.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: ShakeR on Mon, 02 September 2013, 00:44:59
Not trying to thread-jack but if the GB doesn't pan out...

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 02 September 2013, 01:33:57
I want that same you Wildcard  :thumb:
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 02 September 2013, 01:34:42
the problem is that we already paid, not that we can't find them elsewhere...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 02 September 2013, 19:32:03
Not trying to thread-jack but if the GB doesn't pan out...

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536

Still good to know, but I've got almost $300 into this. I'm not putting any more in at this time.

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 04 September 2013, 09:05:07
using gb money to buy things then not having enough to send items. Not cool!
still believe this is the sole reason he is not sending orders.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 06 September 2013, 07:45:07
Do we have a final document with the list of orders that have to be shipped yet?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Fri, 06 September 2013, 17:43:31
Do we have a final document with the list of orders that have to be shipped yet?

i mean someone could do a head count using https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjtaaflMO4z8dGhpampTc041dDVSa1FreVJPSXdDRVE#gid=0 but not sure if that was a final, there is also a list from WFD on any plates that went to bavman that could also be used to make a head count.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:15:57
before we proceed in any direction I need a head count, I believe we need to PM all the participant though.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 07 September 2013, 10:53:43
I received my entire order complete some time ago.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: longweight on Sat, 07 September 2013, 11:06:11
I don't think that he shipped the international orders.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 07 September 2013, 17:36:04
I'm just waiting on my plate.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Sat, 07 September 2013, 20:57:13
Mine shows as Rendom as I took over his PCB and Teensy plus Bavman has my ISO 150 plate from WFD to send on to save on shipping. Not received anything.

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 07 September 2013, 21:00:49
Mine is okooko's order. Should be a phantom kit and teensy, as I sold the plate he had in the order and I told Prof he didn't need to worry about sending me the stabilisers/leds that were a part of oko's order.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Sat, 07 September 2013, 21:03:05
At this point we have to assume that Bavman won't be shipping the orders. Either he doesn't have the time, the will or the money to ship them. Hopefully he still has all the gear.

Is anyone still in contact with him outside of GH because he hasn't logged on in over a month again. I think at this point the best bet is for somebody to collect the gear and details from him and we pay that person the cost of shipping. It's not ideal but we might actually get the gear.

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Sun, 08 September 2013, 00:11:05

I'm just waiting on my plate.

+1. Received everything but plate. I had offered to pay for the shipping, but he said he had got it... Several months ago.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 08 September 2013, 10:05:46
I've been away for a while.  I don't understand what is wrong with this GB?  I got my boards months ago...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Sun, 08 September 2013, 10:30:57
i mean someone could do a head count using https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjtaaflMO4z8dGhpampTc041dDVSa1FreVJPSXdDRVE#gid=0 but not sure if that was a final, there is also a list from WFD on any plates that went to bavman that could also be used to make a head count.

This isn't final I bought mine from metafour im fairly sure he sold both one to me and one to someone else.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 08 September 2013, 11:25:04
I've been away for a while.  I don't understand what is wrong with this GB?  I got my boards months ago...

Most of International orders with both plates and pcb have not been shipped. Some from US also didn't get their boards.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Sun, 08 September 2013, 11:27:43
Even though it is far more of a problem on his end, what is the state of all the PCBs and plates that TP was getting?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 08 September 2013, 16:53:43
I'm in the US and I never received my plates or pcb's. I've been talking with a few people via pm to discuss where things are. I've tried emailing and calling Bavman without any result. I really hope things are ok, but without any updates there is no way to know.

I'll keep trying to call and perhaps we also send a letter to his address.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:07:40
So...no one got even a hint of contact from bavman I presume?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:41:08
Hey were there supposed to be LED standoffs with these?  I am getting ready to build mine and I just realized I don't have the two LED standoffs.

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: longweight on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:56:18
Where the hell is this guy?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:56:35
So...no one got even a hint of contact from bavman I presume?

Still trying
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: longweight on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:57:11
Someone must have his address?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 17 September 2013, 16:23:20
please someone set up a census for the missing boards/plates. with that I'll ask the mods and other admins to help us with this.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 17 September 2013, 16:27:32
please someone set up a census for the missing boards/plates. with that I'll ask the mods and other admins to help us with this.
Quote
1) Conflict resolution: CAVEAT EMPTOR. Moderators will not step in to mediate buys gone bad.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 17 September 2013, 16:32:28
please someone set up a census for the missing boards/plates. with that I'll ask the mods and other admins to help us with this.
Quote
1) Conflict resolution: CAVEAT EMPTOR. Moderators will not step in to mediate buys gone bad.

would you please follow my suggestion as that is what I've been suggested to do by mkawa? They won't help us getting back the PCB but they might help us dealing with the guy.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:54:03
Here's where I am so far.

1) I've tried emailing Bavman with no response
2) I was attempting to call but I kept getting a "this user is not available at this time" voice message.
3) I found a way to get around #2, no comments on this, but it just rings now until it disconnects.
4) I happened to find some new contact information for someone related to Bavman. I called today but I don't plan on leaving a message. I plan on calling again this week in the evening to get ahold of someone to find out why Bavly hasn't been getting back to anyone.

Edit: Also, Matt3o, if I have some free time tonight or tomorrow I'll get that census setup that we talked about. I have some data that we could use as a baseline, but I need to determine what other data we might need. (i.e. people switching orders, etc...)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 18 September 2013, 09:23:25
Is anyone available at proxying the boards?

I can do it but only if bavman ships them to me with Express courier since I'll leave Italy October 11 and I need to get them ASAP
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 18 September 2013, 09:28:39
I can proxy the boards as long as the shipping/packaging costs are covered. I can't afford to cover them myself.

However, if there's someone in DE who can do it that would be better. Royal Mail isn't exactly the best.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 18 September 2013, 09:39:21
I can proxy the boards as long as the shipping/packaging costs are covered. I can't afford to cover them myself.

However, if there's someone in DE who can do it that would be better. Royal Mail isn't exactly the best.

this is what will probably happen (just my assumption):

1) The proxy gets the boards (I can pay for shipping from Bavman to anyone if that's not covered)
2) The proxy asks for shipping fees to all those who have to get the boards (I know you are paying shipping twice, but better than nothing)
3) If someone doesn't want his board, the proxy sells the board in the classified and refund the original buyer




Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Wed, 18 September 2013, 20:59:55
Somebody should know where he is located in terms of nearest city...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 September 2013, 21:13:12
Somebody should know where he is located in terms of nearest city...

I'm not sure how that would be any more helpful. I'm pretty sure Matt3o was able to contact him at one point.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 18 September 2013, 22:46:02
Hey were there supposed to be LED standoffs with these?  I am getting ready to build mine and I just realized I don't have the two LED standoffs.
ebay and amazon have them, and I just order 2000 of them from ebay.  I can sent you few of them after they arrive.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 18 September 2013, 22:53:19
Hey were there supposed to be LED standoffs with these?  I am getting ready to build mine and I just realized I don't have the two LED standoffs.
ebay and amazon have them, and I just order 2000 of them from ebay.  I can sent you few of them after they arrive.

Turns out I have them.  Thanks!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Thu, 19 September 2013, 17:33:26
Somebody should know where he is located in terms of nearest city...

I'm not sure how that would be any more helpful. I'm pretty sure Matt3o was able to contact him at one point.

My concern is that unless somebody physically goes round to collect them from him and then deals with shipping we're never going to see these things.

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 20 September 2013, 00:17:31
My concern is that unless somebody physically goes round to collect them from him and then deals with shipping we're never going to see these things.
[)amien

So we're currently working with Bavman to try to arrange this. I may end up handling the rest of the US orders with Matt3o doing the international orders. I've sent Matt3o my spreadsheet and I will probably be contacting users in the next day or so to try to get a better count of who ordered what and determine where these need to be shipped to.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 20 September 2013, 02:33:16
Wildcard and matt3o you are our saviours. Thank you for all the effort/work you've put into this.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Fri, 20 September 2013, 02:46:22
Wildcard and matt3o you are our saviours. Thank you for all the effort/work you've put into this.

My thoughts exactly. Thanks for the effort guys! Feels crappy not to be able to do anything about this from my end.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 20 September 2013, 02:48:21
we might need a proxy in EU.

I can do it but October 11 I'll be in US for 1 month, so things have to get moving really fast.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: longweight on Fri, 20 September 2013, 03:03:11
Will you have access to bavmans order records? It's hard to find exactly what I ordered!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 20 September 2013, 03:17:23
Will you have access to bavmans order records? It's hard to find exactly what I ordered!

we are trying to get full order status. Bavman reply rate is not the fastest.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Fri, 20 September 2013, 10:28:11
WFD should be able to provide a list of plates he sent to Bavman and who they were for which just gets us down to PCBs.

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 20 September 2013, 10:28:57
WFD should be able to provide a list of plates he sent to Bavman and who they were for which just gets us down to PCBs.

[)amien
WFD is MIA.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 20 September 2013, 11:03:21
Actually I already have the list from WFD. I also have several messages in this thread as to which orders may have already shipped out. There were some cases where people didn't order plates, but I'm hoping Bavman is able to share the data he has with us as we try to sort this out.

It's going to take time, but I still believe Bavman is a good guy who just got hit with unfortunate circumstances. I really don't want this to reflect negatively on anyone. In the end we're a community working together to make and share some great stuff.

Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Sat, 21 September 2013, 06:20:49
So we're currently working with Bavman to try to arrange this. I may end up handling the rest of the US orders with Matt3o doing the international orders. I've sent Matt3o my spreadsheet and I will probably be contacting users in the next day or so to try to get a better count of who ordered what and determine where these need to be shipped to.
not logging in for a mere 5 minutes to update everyone is something I'd expect from the prof, not bavman. what is going on?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 21 September 2013, 09:47:23
Not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread before, but the resistors and LEDs that came with this kit are probably not the best combination.  The LEDs I got were ultrabright whites, and the resistors are only 55 ohms.  Yes, 55!  The LEDs are so bright they hurt.  I basically means I can't use Caps Lock.  I would have gone with 470ohm resistors.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 21 September 2013, 10:01:28
Not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread before, but the resistors and LEDs that came with this kit are probably not the best combination.  The LEDs I got were ultrabright whites, and the resistors are only 55 ohms.  Yes, 55!  The LEDs are so bright they hurt.  I basically means I can't use Caps Lock.  I would have gone with 470ohm resistors.

Hmmm, I might have to take a look at the layout. I hadn't considered that. I wonder why we went with the 55 ohm resistors then?

So we're currently working with Bavman to try to arrange this. I may end up handling the rest of the US orders with Matt3o doing the international orders. I've sent Matt3o my spreadsheet and I will probably be contacting users in the next day or so to try to get a better count of who ordered what and determine where these need to be shipped to.
not logging in for a mere 5 minutes to update everyone is something I'd expect from the prof, not bavman. what is going on?

Preaching to the choir here. I honestly have no idea what's going on with Bavman or Prof, I just want to make sure everyone gets what they ordered. It's really moot considering where we are at this point. We're going to try to get the stuff and get it shipped out.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Sat, 21 September 2013, 12:27:58
You can lower the LED intensity through PWM.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 22 September 2013, 02:11:56
getting closer...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Sun, 22 September 2013, 23:54:54
getting closer...
to what?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 23 September 2013, 01:39:44
each passing day puts you closer to the grave  :cool:
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pasph on Mon, 23 September 2013, 03:17:09
each passing day puts you closer to the grave  :cool:

That's what i want to read on Monday morning!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Piehunter on Wed, 25 September 2013, 06:21:47
So...ummm... I still havent received my kit + plate....

I just thought id show sign of life so that one one forgets me ^^
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 25 September 2013, 06:47:27
So...ummm... I still havent received my kit + plate....

I just thought id show sign of life so that one one forgets me ^^

You are part of a very large group of people, they are currently attempting to rectify the situation.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Thu, 26 September 2013, 00:52:04
scumbag bavman
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 26 September 2013, 06:58:17
It's like everyone associated with the Phantom GB disappeared.  Prof...Bavman...WFD...  It's cursed.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 26 September 2013, 07:02:00
It's like everyone associated with the Phantom GB disappeared.  Prof...Bavman...WFD...  It's cursed.

Yeah so who's doing R3? ;)

I kid, just trying to lighten the mood. Sadly it does seem to be cursed.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Mon, 30 September 2013, 13:52:27

It's like everyone associated with the Phantom GB disappeared.  Prof...Bavman...WFD...  It's cursed.

You can say, they are "phantoms"... I know horrible joke.


Seriously though, any updates? I mean, it'd be nice to get my plate before 14'.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: longweight on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:14:21
scumbag bavman


QFT.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 01 October 2013, 01:08:47
I've been in contact with Bavman and I plan on making the trip to see him this weekend (10/05/2013) to pick up the remaining Phantom parts. I will try to post an updated spreadsheet for everyone to review and make sure the remaining orders are accurate. I would have traveled there sooner, but it's a 7 hour drive for me (round trip), so I can only travel there on the weekends. Also, I figured since I'm spending the money on gas I might as well make it a mini vacation, (i.e. LEGOLAND! (http://www.legolanddiscoverycenter.com/kansascity/))

Edit: And to be clear, I'm still not 100% sure about the shipping money. I may end up getting creative to try to raise funds to reimburse the total costs to complete this GB. As much as I'd love the shoulder the costs here, I still don't have a clear picture on the total remaining orders. This is why we're going to need some confirmation from the group. Considering the remaining orders are mostly international, these costs could be quite large. We may look at shipping these international orders to another proxy to lower the costs a bit.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Slavfot on Tue, 01 October 2013, 01:37:49
Wildcard, you are a hero for doing this!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 01 October 2013, 01:46:47
I've been in contact with Bavman and I plan on making the trip to see him this weekend (10/05/2013) to pick up the remaining Phantom parts. I will try to post an updated spreadsheet for everyone to review and make sure the remaining orders are accurate. I would have traveled there sooner, but it's a 7 hour drive for me (round trip), so I can only travel there on the weekends. Also, I figured since I'm spending the money on gas I might as well make it a mini vacation, (i.e. LEGOLAND! (http://www.legolanddiscoverycenter.com/kansascity/))

Edit: And to be clear, I'm still not 100% sure about the shipping money. I may end up getting creative to try to raise funds to reimburse the total costs to complete this GB. As much as I'd love the shoulder the costs here, I still don't have a clear picture on the total remaining orders. This is why we're going to need some confirmation from the group. Considering the remaining orders are mostly international, these costs could be quite large. We may look at shipping these international orders to another proxy to lower the costs a bit.

What was his reason for disappearing? ._.

And that drive >.<
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Tue, 01 October 2013, 02:53:10
Thanks for picking this up Wildcard! Hopefully everyone will be flexible on the shipping realizing that you're going out of your way to help salvage this. (I'm down as damieng for a ISO 150 plate and as rendom for a Teensy and a PCB)

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Tue, 01 October 2013, 04:11:00
That's awesome Wildcard! I have no problem being flexible with the shipping costs (and also the gas and use of your personal car if necessary), especially with all the effort you're putting into this. As long as we still get our stuff I'm happy.
I actually have the same as DamienG (ISO150 plate, Teensy and a PCB). Have fun at Legoland ;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: longweight on Tue, 01 October 2013, 04:51:39
Thanks Wildcard!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: oluf on Tue, 01 October 2013, 11:31:33
...
Edit: And to be clear, I'm still not 100% sure about the shipping money. I may end up getting creative to try to raise funds to reimburse the total costs to complete this GB. As much as I'd love the shoulder the costs here, I still don't have a clear picture on the total remaining orders. This is why we're going to need some confirmation from the group. Considering the remaining orders are mostly international, these costs could be quite large. We may look at shipping these international orders to another proxy to lower the costs a bit.

What was his reason for disappearing? ._.

And that drive >.<

...And what happened to the shipping funds?

Wildcard -> You are awesome!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 01 October 2013, 11:36:24
Thanks so much wildcard. Seriously, you're awesome. Also, just out of curiosity, how come he can meet up but he can't spend the time shipping them?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Tue, 01 October 2013, 11:52:57
Wildcard, I'm sure enough people could chip in a few bucks each to help cover, if not fully cover, the shipping costs.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 01 October 2013, 12:28:52
If shipping fees are not turned to Wildcard, to get your board you'll most likely have to pay shipping again. Sad but the alternative would be not having the boards at all, so...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Tue, 01 October 2013, 16:59:09

Wildcard, I'm sure enough people could chip in a few bucks each to help cover, if not fully cover, the shipping costs.
+1 to chipping in for shipping.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Tue, 01 October 2013, 17:17:23
Wildcard you deserve a medal if you rescue this GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 01 October 2013, 18:08:38
Wildcard you deserve a medal if you rescue this GB  :thumb:

Knight of the order of GeekHack under the honorable iMav :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: oluf on Tue, 01 October 2013, 18:09:52
I received my order long ago, but I will chip in for shipping for those who haven't gotten their stuff.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 01 October 2013, 18:40:47
I would also donate some to cover shipping costs for those who haven't received their orders yet. Wildcard is doing a great service to the community here.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Tue, 01 October 2013, 19:13:21
What was his reason for disappearing? ._.

And that drive >.<
Yeah, what is going on?

I mean, it's great others are taking over but I feel everyone deserves an explanation, not someone else to silently clean up the mess.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 01 October 2013, 19:29:10
What was his reason for disappearing? ._.

And that drive >.<
Yeah, what is going on?

I mean, it's great others are taking over but I feel everyone deserves an explanation, not someone else to silently clean up the mess.

I don't think it is Wildcard's place to explain why Bavman dropped the ball on this one. Nor is it Matt3o's place. Only Bavman can explain his actions (or inaction), and he doesn't seem willing to do that. All we can do at this point is to be grateful to those who have taken it upon themselves to step in and try to salvage what can be salvaged.

Whether you deserve an explanation or not, it doesn't appear that one is forthcoming.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 02 October 2013, 01:21:19
I don't think it is Wildcard's place to explain why Bavman dropped the ball on this one. Nor is it Matt3o's place. Only Bavman can explain his actions (or inaction), and he doesn't seem willing to do that. All we can do at this point is to be grateful to those who have taken it upon themselves to step in and try to salvage what can be salvaged.

Whether you deserve an explanation or not, it doesn't appear that one is forthcoming.

there's intelligence in this world after all!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gameaholic on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:30:52
Just wanted to say hi in this thread.  Hi!  :p
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:40:37
Not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread before, but the resistors and LEDs that came with this kit are probably not the best combination.  The LEDs I got were ultrabright whites, and the resistors are only 55 ohms.  Yes, 55!  The LEDs are so bright they hurt.  I basically means I can't use Caps Lock.  I would have gone with 470ohm resistors.

I agree. I used pink and they were sooooo bright. I changed them out to some 100 ohm I had laying around and they are still a little too bright. Luckily, I soldered them on the bottom of the board as WFD suggests in his youtube video of a phantom build (well, actually I did it on purpose so it wasn't exactly luck) so at least it's not too difficult to change them out. I'm probably gonna change them to a higher value at some point.

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: deSheol on Fri, 04 October 2013, 07:03:29
My white LED was like lasers.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Fri, 04 October 2013, 07:56:37
Use the force of the PWM folks, damnit!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 04 October 2013, 08:12:14
Use the force of the PWM folks, damnit!


I intend to, but I've never needed it before so my firmware doesn't support it yet.  Also I find that I can detect the flashing which is distracting.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: bpiphany on Fri, 04 October 2013, 13:10:46
You only need to use a high enough frequency, and you won't see any flashing. You can get down to 16MHz/256 = 63kHz, that is way fast..
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: simkev on Sat, 05 October 2013, 09:30:06
Am I the only one who haven't received my phantom yet?
WFD was supposed to solder the diodes and teensy and then ship it to me in a package with my dsa retro keys. Why doesn't WFD answer pm's?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 05 October 2013, 09:32:08
Am I the only one who haven't received my phantom yet?
WFD was supposed to solder the diodes and teensy and then ship it to me in a package with my dsa retro keys. Why doesn't WFD answer pm's?
He's currently semi-MIA. He should be back soon.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 05 October 2013, 15:22:37
Ok so some good news, I just arrived at Bavman's home about a half hour ago, unfortunately Bavman left shorty before I got there so I wasn't able to ask him any clarifying questions. I picked up one large box from his father and some packaging materials. I'll be in Kansas City overnight and will try to do an inventory count before I head back to Omaha tomorrow. I'll be calling Bavman or stopping by his home before I leave to ask about the postage fees he collected. I'll also try to sort out any order issues with him that I encounter when I do the inventory count. I'll keep everyone posted.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 05 October 2013, 15:24:22
Ok so some good news, I just arrived at Bavman's home about a half hour ago, unfortunately Bavman left shorty before I got there so I wasn't able to ask him any clarifying questions. I picked up one large box from his father and some packaging materials. I'll be in Kansas City overnight and will try to do an inventory count before I head back to Omaha tomorrow. I'll be calling Bavman or stopping by his home before I leave to ask about the postage fees he collected. I'll also try to sort out any order issues with him that I encounter when I do the inventory count. I'll keep everyone posted.
Awesome! Thanks so much for all of your efforts wildcard, you're a hero.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: meiosis on Sat, 05 October 2013, 15:25:19
Ok so some good news, I just arrived at Bavman's home about a half hour ago, unfortunately Bavman left shorty before I got there so I wasn't able to ask him any clarifying questions. I picked up one large box from his father and some packaging materials. I'll be in Kansas City overnight and will try to do an inventory count before I head back to Omaha tomorrow. I'll be calling Bavman or stopping by his home before I leave to ask about the postage fees he collected. I'll also try to sort out any order issues with him that I encounter when I do the inventory count. I'll keep everyone posted.

What a man, how was the experience? Do something fun for yourself before you go back ^^
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 05 October 2013, 15:53:43
It's been a good trip so far :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 05 October 2013, 16:01:05
Lets all throw in money to get Wildcard an escort
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 05 October 2013, 17:28:22
Lets all throw in money to get Wildcard an escort

Hmm. how about we save the money on the escort and use it to cover the shipping costs?

I'd take a Topre Night Owl if someone wants to send that my way :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: meiosis on Sat, 05 October 2013, 18:48:06
Lets all throw in money to get Wildcard an escort

Hmm. how about we save the money on the escort and use it to cover the shipping costs?

I'd take a Topre Night Owl if someone wants to send that my way :)

Nerd alert
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 06 October 2013, 10:18:17
Ok, PCB counts look good. I may be short a teensy or two. The whole spreadsheet will need re-validation, which I'll start on this week.

Regarding the plates, I have them but I haven't even started to count them. I have high confidence that they're all here, but they're all mixed together at the bottom of the box so I'll have to sort these out.

More to come :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Sun, 06 October 2013, 10:53:45
Ok, PCB counts look good. I may be short a teensy or two. The whole spreadsheet will need re-validation, which I'll start on this week.
I picked up two from JD's buy as I thought this one was a goner. I can give up my Teensy on this one if we're short.

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 06 October 2013, 11:10:07
Awesome, thanks Damien!

I'll keep everyone posted next week as more stuff gets sorted.

Time to check out of the hotel
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:57:16
Back home again. That was a fun mini vacation. I got a call from Bavman who was able to answer a few questions I had with some of the remaining orders, I'm going to sort what I have and have him give me feedback on a few things. He's been very helpful and I really appreciate him for all his assistance while we get things back on track.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: sprit on Sun, 06 October 2013, 18:35:15
Nice!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sun, 06 October 2013, 19:25:11
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg850869#msg850869

This is when he sent out a bunch of PCBs and ppl were confused why plates werent sent with them. ( see posts from same page and on)

For wildcard asking about ppl who only need plates sent to them.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 06 October 2013, 21:50:23
So I was able to ask him what happened with the pcb's that were sent without plates and it appears that there was a communication breakdown that resulted in the wrong spreadsheet being used from WFD. Ultimately, the latest sheet wasn't used and he thought the orders he shipped didn't have plates.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Thu, 10 October 2013, 11:22:44
Any update on things? Like how much is missing or what info you need from people?

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 11 October 2013, 13:21:44
I will have some time this weekend to get better counts. I've also PM'd a few people to get clarification on how some orders were submitted. More to come!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 13 October 2013, 22:47:05
Ok, so here are the total counts.

I have 26 PCB's
I have 27 Teensy's

I do have orders that were packaged and not shipped, and I haven't opened these to validate the contents which I will before shipping, but I'm assuming the stuff is all there.

Total, I need 27 PCB's and 29 Teensy's

I still haven't even touched the plates and diodes, which I'm hoping are all there.

There are 7 remaining domestic orders and 18 international orders. Bavman unfortunately didn't collect enough shipping money due to the rise in shipping rates during the group buy. His estimate, which I haven't validated is $356.68 for shipping the remaining PCB + plate orders.

There are also 8 orders of just plates which weren't shipped with the PCB's which also need to be shipped out. Half of these orders are international, so the rough shipping estimate is about $110.00

So as it stands, we're short 1 PCB and 2 Teensy's and about $466.00 in shipping fees.

Here's the plan, I'm going to be sending this info to Bavman to see if he has any other items which weren't provided to me on my trip to KC. Assuming there's more, we'll be good. If not, I will probably end up parting with one of my PCB's and Damien has gracefully offered up his Teensy's, which I could also chip in on depending on other factors. Bavman also mentioned to me there is some shipping money remaining, and I'm hoping to find out how much and have him forward the funds over.

After we're able to collect the remaining shipping money, I will ship out the remaining domestic US orders. I can get a good shipping discount from my office, and if anyone is willing to have me ship their order to an office location it will cut the shipping expense down about 15%. I'm also working with Matt3o as a possible proxy for the remaining international orders. By doing this we will hopefully reduce our international shipping expenses as well as save me my sanity as I hate customs forms.

Once I hear back from Bavman, I will be contacting everyone on their remaining orders to confirm the counts, address, etc...

Like most others, I have limited time to work on this, but I'll keep everyone posted on my progress until every last item is delivered :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 14 October 2013, 01:21:26
Thanks for the updated. Any idea who/where TPs GB PCB/plates are?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 14 October 2013, 01:39:32
I know some of the orders were not shipped to TP. So in a way the delay in this group buy gave a unique opportunity to some to allow them to not ship their orders to TP. So those I have. Unfortunatly, Nebo it looks like your order was already shipped to TP. I haven't spent much time in the Phantom assembly... repairing thread, but if I understand correctly, TP is slowly building and shipping the remaining orders he has. So I'm thinking you'll need to check there.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: AlexJP on Tue, 15 October 2013, 19:05:04
Oh nooos...Did I lost this GB? you guys need more pcb and teensy?   : )
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 16 October 2013, 06:35:08
I think you won by not joining the GB.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: AlexJP on Wed, 16 October 2013, 16:40:03
I think you won by not joining the GB.
why is that Broadmonkey? anything went wrong?
I've read a lot of pages on this but my english sucks
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Wed, 16 October 2013, 17:39:53
I think you won by not joining the GB.
why is that Broadmonkey? anything went wrong?
I've read a lot of pages on this but my english sucks

Communication wasn't that good towards delivery and there was around two months (I think) of no word at all. Then someone stepped in, drove the the previous members house and collected what hasn't been shipped and that's where we stand.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: thegagne on Wed, 16 October 2013, 19:13:17
Hey guys, I'm a newish member (in for GH60!) who just randomly stumbled into this thread. I happen to live in KC so if there's any legwork that still needs to be done, let me know, maybe I can save someone a drive.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: AlexJP on Wed, 16 October 2013, 19:26:03
I think you won by not joining the GB.
why is that Broadmonkey? anything went wrong?
I've read a lot of pages on this but my english sucks

Communication wasn't that good towards delivery and there was around two months (I think) of no word at all. Then someone stepped in, drove the the previous members house and collected what hasn't been shipped and that's where we stand.

thanks. I have to read more carefully   :))
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: christkind on Sat, 19 October 2013, 10:42:02
So since this seems to be really happening at last, I just wanted to remark that I am one of the "switched" orders, which I got originally from metafour.

I hope the remaining orders will finally arrive at their rightful destination and a big thanks to Wildcard and everyone else who helped to complete this for the few remaining orders!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 19 October 2013, 11:18:00
edit, see below
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 19 October 2013, 11:20:19
So since this seems to be really happening at last, I just wanted to remark that I am one of the "switched" orders, which I got originally from metafour.

I hope the remaining orders will finally arrive at their rightful destination and a big thanks to Wildcard and everyone else who helped to complete this for the few remaining orders!


According to the order sheet it looks like Metafour's order already shipped???

We're still trying to determine where we are on the shipping fees. Bavman has told me he would be sending me the remaining shipping money which would allow me to start sending out the remaining domestic orders.

Matt3o will be taking over the international orders after I ship them to him in Italy.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: christkind on Sat, 19 October 2013, 11:25:47
So since this seems to be really happening at last, I just wanted to remark that I am one of the "switched" orders, which I got originally from metafour.

I hope the remaining orders will finally arrive at their rightful destination and a big thanks to Wildcard and everyone else who helped to complete this for the few remaining orders!


According to the order sheet it looks like Metafour's order already shipped???

We're still trying to determine where we are on the shipping fees. Bavman has told me he would be sending me the remaining shipping money which would allow me to start sending out the remaining domestic orders.

Matt3o will be taking over the international orders after I ship them to him in Italy.

That sure sounds not quite right. But to be a 100% correct, metafour had two phantoms and he sold one to me. Could it be that one has shipped and the remaining one is mine?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 19 October 2013, 11:29:09
I don't have a remaining one though. I'm actually short one PCB already. Also did you just get a PCB from metafour or was there also a plate and teensy? Could you check with metafour and validate that he didn't receive his full order.

It wouldn't make much sense that Bavman would allow an order to be split like that because it would have required an extra shipping charge. But again, I'm just trying to piece this back together.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: christkind on Sat, 19 October 2013, 11:33:13
Yeah should have stated it more correctly. One phantom pcb, plate and teensy. Talked to bavman when I bought the one phantom/plate/teensy from metafour and paid extra shipping to bavman, was all OK for him. Will ask metafour if he received anything. Sorry for adding extra confusion to an already complicated GB. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 19 October 2013, 20:54:06
I just skimmed the last few pages of this. Wildcard, you're a HERO. Thanks for picking this back up.

I'm still missing a few things that bavman probably miscounted. I also covered some of the shipping costs that he never reimbursed yet, but it looks like this applies to the whole GB. If you're basing all the shipment stuff on my spreadsheet, it should still be up to date for the most part. I think there were a few people that recently sold their orders that I did not get a chance to update yet. One more thing to add to my to do list.

Also, if shipping cost is a factor, all international orders should be sent directly to the owners instead of passing it to Matt3o. Shipping one huge international package this heavy is not cheap anymore, then Matt3o will have to send them out internationally again anyways. Although, if you send them all from the US yourself, you'll have to deal with a lot of tedious custom forms. I've been there before, and it's a lot of work man.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: christkind on Sun, 20 October 2013, 14:34:40
Yeah should have stated it more correctly. One phantom pcb, plate and teensy. Talked to bavman when I bought the one phantom/plate/teensy from metafour and paid extra shipping to bavman, was all OK for him. Will ask metafour if he received anything. Sorry for adding extra confusion to an already complicated GB. Thanks for the help.

According to metafour he did not receive anything. So maybe there is some mix up with the orders?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:15:19
Yeah should have stated it more correctly. One phantom pcb, plate and teensy. Talked to bavman when I bought the one phantom/plate/teensy from metafour and paid extra shipping to bavman, was all OK for him. Will ask metafour if he received anything. Sorry for adding extra confusion to an already complicated GB. Thanks for the help.

According to metafour he did not receive anything. So maybe there is some mix up with the orders?

So from my spreadsheet I have Metafour marked down as shipped (highlighted purple), although his column is a slightly different color then the rest, so I have no idea what that means.

I haven't been getting much of a response from Bavman since after I traveled to see him. So I'm thinking we might be on our own possibly at this point. I have not been able to recover any of the shipping funds from him so it looks like we're starting with $0. I'm also contemplating starting a separate thread for tracking considering how much we need to validate at this point.

I'm going to think about this a bit more tonight when I get home and try to come up with a plan to get this going.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: christkind on Tue, 22 October 2013, 14:30:24
I think he got the special color because he sold his order, so I asked the other guy who bought the remaining phantom/plate/teensy from Metafour, if he has received anything, but haven not heard back yet.

But you are saying, that there is no remaining phantom/plate/teensy left for me anyway?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 22 October 2013, 14:39:21
I think he got the special color because he sold his order, so I asked the other guy who bought the remaining phantom/plate/teensy from Metafour, if he has received anything, but haven not heard back yet.

But you are saying, that there is no remaining phantom/plate/teensy left for me anyway?

Ok, I think I see that now. He must have been crossing out metafour and he tacked on the extra orders including yours as a separate line (your on the list but all of your info is missing)

I'm still trying to figure out what to do about being short one order essentially, but I don't think that's directly related to your order. I'm hoping some orders were shipped but not marked.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:22:50
I think he got the special color because he sold his order, so I asked the other guy who bought the remaining phantom/plate/teensy from Metafour, if he has received anything, but haven not heard back yet.

But you are saying, that there is no remaining phantom/plate/teensy left for me anyway?

Ok, I think I see that now. He must have been crossing out metafour and he tacked on the extra orders including yours as a separate line (your on the list but all of your info is missing)

I'm still trying to figure out what to do about being short one order essentially, but I don't think that's directly related to your order. I'm hoping some orders were shipped but not marked.

Im the other guy he sold a plate/pcb/teensy to and I've not received anything.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 24 October 2013, 08:31:35
Perfect, thanks gotbadger, that lines up with what's in the spreadsheet.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 30 October 2013, 17:44:46
Short Update. Bavman was initially stating that he had remaining shipping funds and items that he would transfer to me. This has not yet materialized. Shortly after my KC trip he also stopped answering phone calls and also stopped responding to my emails again. I know I've had a few people contact me directly about taking legal or criminal actions against him, but I believe we can resolve this without it coming to that.

Fortunately I was able to speak with his father who was the person who met me when I picked up the items at his home. I explained the situation and he reassured me that he would have a discussion with him and get back to me by Friday. I should have another update this weekend.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TDub on Thu, 31 October 2013, 08:35:26
Has been said already, but can't be said enough: Wildcard you rock! Thank you so much for continuously pouring your time into saving this GB :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 October 2013, 08:38:05
Short Update. Bavman was initially stating that he had remaining shipping funds and items that he would transfer to me. This has not yet materialized. Shortly after my KC trip he also stopped answering phone calls and also stopped responding to my emails again. I know I've had a few people contact me directly about taking legal or criminal actions against him, but I believe we can resolve this without it coming to that.

Fortunately I was able to speak with his father who was the person who met me when I picked up the items at his home. I explained the situation and he reassured me that he would have a discussion with him and get back to me by Friday. I should have another update this weekend.

Wow he was too chicken to meet you when you took the initiative to travel all the way to his home?! And now communication has to go through his father? I think his name should be changed from bavman to bavboy.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Broadmonkey on Thu, 31 October 2013, 08:49:46
I think he is just ashamed, he just didn't grasp how much work and responsibility there would be in organizing a GB of this size.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 31 October 2013, 08:55:31
Hey Wildcard, I got a hold of TP, he says he never got the plates or PCBs but that they were sent to WFD. Do you know anything about that?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 31 October 2013, 22:08:03
Wasn't WFD taking on some of the orders from TP? This could be what he's referring too. But I have no idea other then that. I do have the plates that WFD shipped to Bavman.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Sun, 03 November 2013, 12:28:20
So where are we at? Are we any closer to getting boards and plates?

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 03 November 2013, 20:04:37
After all the **** that has happened with all this phantom stuff and... others, we might want to rethink how we do GBs in the future.  Seriously rethink.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 04 November 2013, 01:11:03
After all the **** that has happened with all this phantom stuff and... others, we might want to rethink how we do GBs in the future.  Seriously rethink.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.msg694028#msg694028
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 04 November 2013, 06:54:40
So where are we at? Are we any closer to getting boards and plates?

[)amien

I never got a call on Friday. I tried calling again Sunday evening but I just reached a voicemail message. I'm planning on calling again after work today.

After all the **** that has happened with all this phantom stuff and... others, we might want to rethink how we do GBs in the future.  Seriously rethink.


Agreed, this has been hell. On the positive side, at least Bavman appears to have ordered most of the stuff vs. the Changdrew scenero.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:23:33
Wasn't WFD taking on some of the orders from TP? This could be what he's referring too. But I have no idea other then that. I do have the plates that WFD shipped to Bavman.
Thanks, trying to get a hold of him now. I'm jumping ship on TPs building so if it's possible to have my plate shipped to me that'd be great.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 November 2013, 14:39:21
wildcard, would you please quote shipping costs of boards coming to EU?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 04 November 2013, 21:24:30
wildcard, would you please quote shipping costs of boards coming to EU?

Did you want me to quote you the cost to ship all the international orders (not including north america) to Italy in one large package?

Also, update Bavman emailed me tonight and I provided him my breakdown of where we're at. Hopefully he comes through (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 November 2013, 17:24:21
wildcard, would you please quote shipping costs of boards coming to EU?

Did you want me to quote you the cost to ship all the international orders (not including north america) to Italy in one large package?

yes, exactly. Thanks! if that's not much of an hassle. All EU orders (I can't proxy Asian or Australian)

Also, update Bavman emailed me tonight and I provided him my breakdown of where we're at. Hopefully he comes through (fingers crossed)

great news
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:05:01
Where is my stuff from this GB?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:09:04
Where is my stuff from this GB?
tl;dr
-bavman bailed, literally didn't give us an update for months.
-wildcard the hero went and got the pcbs/plates
-we're waiting to hear more about shipping
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:17:15
-we're waiting to hear more about shipping

My feeling is that, if you want your stuff, you're going to have to pay Wildcard for shipping. It sucks, but Bavman probably blew the money like a jerk, and doesn't have it to give to Wildcard. So you can either pay Wildcard the shipping for him to send your stuff to you, or just let it sit at Wildcard's place. He was nice enough to go get the goods from a guy who was unresponsive, but you shouldn't expect him to foot the bill for shipping everything out.

My $0.02.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:20:28
-we're waiting to hear more about shipping

My feeling is that, if you want your stuff, you're going to have to pay Wildcard for shipping. It sucks, but Bavman probably blew the money like a jerk, and doesn't have it to give to Wildcard. So you can either pay Wildcard the shipping for him to send your stuff to you, or just let it sit at Wildcard's place. He was nice enough to go get the goods from a guy who was unresponsive, but you shouldn't expect him to foot the bill for shipping everything out.

My $0.02.
yeah, i expect to have to pay for shipping (since i don't expect bavman to pull through), and am 100% willing to do so if needed. just waiting to hear what we're doing about order confirmation, international shipping, etc.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:21:32
-we're waiting to hear more about shipping

My feeling is that, if you want your stuff, you're going to have to pay Wildcard for shipping. It sucks, but Bavman probably blew the money like a jerk, and doesn't have it to give to Wildcard. So you can either pay Wildcard the shipping for him to send your stuff to you, or just let it sit at Wildcard's place. He was nice enough to go get the goods from a guy who was unresponsive, but you shouldn't expect him to foot the bill for shipping everything out.

My $0.02.
yeah, i expect to have to pay for shipping, and am 100% willing to do so. just waiting to hear what we're doing about order confirmation, international shipping, etc.

Also, I wasn't directing that at you, Photekq. I know you know what's up. I just wanted to inform the thread. :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:21:42
I'm cool with paying for shipping. Would like to get it soon(ish) now that my switches are on the way.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:22:36
Also, I wasn't directing that at you, Photekq. I know you know what's up. I just wanted to inform the thread. :)
no worries mate ;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:34:26
-we're waiting to hear more about shipping

My feeling is that, if you want your stuff, you're going to have to pay Wildcard for shipping. It sucks, but Bavman probably blew the money like a jerk, and doesn't have it to give to Wildcard. So you can either pay Wildcard the shipping for him to send your stuff to you, or just let it sit at Wildcard's place. He was nice enough to go get the goods from a guy who was unresponsive, but you shouldn't expect him to foot the bill for shipping everything out.

My $0.02.

Unfortunately, this appears to be the direction we might have to go.

Edit: we might be getting funds, stay tuned
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:42:18
Where is my stuff from this GB?

Looks like this was shipped to TP.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:52:49
Where is my stuff from this GB?

Looks like this was shipped to TP.

TP claims WFD has it and never shipped it, I'll keep bugging WFD about it :/
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:17:37
I'll clarify a few things. I made a very large shipment to bavman, which wildcard now has. However, I never sent Prof ANYTHING because first of all he never paid what he owes me on many things, and second, with all the BS coming out of this mouth, I knew he would never send it out when requested. I completely took over for the people from Prof's group. Check THIS SPREADSHEET (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdHlwNWpJSnl0OFAyZHdzMVA5TWg2UkE&usp=drive_web#gid=2) to know if I have your plate/PCB, or if wildcard has them.

I sent out packages from Prof's group and almost everyone from my group already. But what's holding up the remaining shipment or assembly service is that I do not have the switches that you ordered from Prof. He was suppose to send me a large package with everyone's stuff, but we all know how much of an asshat he is about shipping stuff out. At this point, if you want to cut your loses with the parts and assembly service that you already paid, I'll send out the plate/PCB that I have. Just shoot me a PM.

As for shipping costs, I'll have to go with what JD just mentioned. I never got reimbursed for all the shipping cost for the orders I already sent out, so if you want your stuff, you'll have to pay me or wildcard for shipping. I don't mind covering if it's only a few people, but for a whole GB, it adds up. I already took a hit on the plates and some of the shipping.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:25:07
Just to make sure I'm reading this right, does "plates staying (Prof's group)" mean that Wildcard has the plate? I assume "plates staying with me" means you would have them.  I have no problem making up for shipping. If you were able to do assembly that would be great too, if not I can get my own iron.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:30:24
Just to make sure I'm reading this right, does "plates staying (Prof's group)" mean that Wildcard has the plate? I assume "plates staying with me" means you would have them.  I have no problem making up for shipping. If you were able to do assembly that would be great too, if not I can get my own iron.
I don't think he has the switches to do assembly, even though 7bit said that he had sent them to TP  :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:31:29
Just to make sure I'm reading this right, does "plates staying (Prof's group)" mean that Wildcard has the plate? I assume "plates staying with me" means you would have them.  I have no problem making up for shipping. If you were able to do assembly that would be great too, if not I can get my own iron.
I don't think he has the switches to do assembly, even though 7bit said that he had sent them to TP  :(
I have my switches. Or they're confirmed to have shipped and made it to the post office.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:32:30
I'll clarify a few things. I made a very large shipment to bavman, which wildcard now has. However, I never sent Prof ANYTHING because first of all he never paid what he owes me on many things, and second, with all the BS coming out of this mouth, I knew he would never send it out when requested. I completely took over for the people from Prof's group. Check THIS SPREADSHEET (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdHlwNWpJSnl0OFAyZHdzMVA5TWg2UkE&usp=drive_web#gid=2) to know if I have your plate/PCB, or if wildcard has them.

I sent out packages from Prof's group and almost everyone from my group already. But what's holding up the remaining shipment or assembly service is that I do not have the switches that you ordered from Prof. He was suppose to send me a large package with everyone's stuff, but we all know how much of an asshat he is about shipping stuff out. At this point, if you want to cut your loses with the parts and assembly service that you already paid, I'll send out the plate/PCB that I have. Just shoot me a PM.

As for shipping costs, I'll have to go with what JD just mentioned. I never got reimbursed for all the shipping cost for the orders I already sent out, so if you want your stuff, you'll have to pay me or wildcard for shipping. I don't mind covering if it's only a few people, but for a whole GB, it adds up. I already took a hit on the plates and some of the shipping.

Ok cool, prof shipped my switches the other day, the only other thing I ordered from him was some 6.25x cherry stabs which he said you were dealing with. So if you have my plate, PCB, two teensy's and a set of 6.25 cherry stabs, I'd very much appreciate getting those shipped to me.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:33:15
Just to make sure I'm reading this right, does "plates staying (Prof's group)" mean that Wildcard has the plate? I assume "plates staying with me" means you would have them.  I have no problem making up for shipping. If you were able to do assembly that would be great too, if not I can get my own iron.



That whole page linked are orders that I took care of, including "plates staying (Prof)" and "plates staying with me". There are tabs on the bottom for what wildcard should have (bavman = now wildcard).

I'm still willing to assemble these for Prof's group, but I don't spare switches. You'll have to ship some to me, or somehow get Prof to send it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:34:04
That whole page linked are orders that I took care of, including "plates staying (Prof)" and "plates staying with me". There are tabs on the bottom for what wildcard should have (bavman = now wildcard).

I'm still willing to assemble these for Prof's group, but I don't spare switches. You'll have to ship some to me, or somehow get Prof to send it.
Hey man I know you're super busy with everything related to this and GH60 and real life, if you need help with assembly just hit me up.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:39:43
Just to make sure I'm reading this right, does "plates staying (Prof's group)" mean that Wildcard has the plate? I assume "plates staying with me" means you would have them.  I have no problem making up for shipping. If you were able to do assembly that would be great too, if not I can get my own iron.



That whole page linked are orders that I took care of, including "plates staying (Prof)" and "plates staying with me". There are tabs on the bottom for what wildcard should have (bavman = now wildcard).

I'm still willing to assemble these for Prof's group, but I don't spare switches. You'll have to ship some to me, or somehow get Prof to send it.
Thank you. Fully understand about switches, I would of course send those to you (if that's the route I take) and probably have the PCB wildcard has shipped there as well (all paid by me of course).
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:40:12
Bavman has stated he will be transferring funds to me tomorrow once he get's paid from work. Again (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pasph on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:53:20
WFD please answer my Pm
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Broadmonkey on Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:48:32
Bavman has stated he will be transferring funds to me tomorrow once he get's paid from work. Again (fingers crossed)

Odd day to get paid... but I am crossing my fingers.

Thanks Wildcard!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:56:30
Bavman has stated he will be transferring funds to me tomorrow once he get's paid from work. Again (fingers crossed)

Odd day to get paid... but I am crossing my fingers.

Thanks Wildcard!

Many people get paid on Fridays.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 07 November 2013, 20:52:06
Bavman has stated he will be transferring funds to me tomorrow once he get's paid from work. Again (fingers crossed)

Odd day to get paid... but I am crossing my fingers.

Thanks Wildcard!

I guess when you get paid in bananas, every day's payday :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 10 November 2013, 20:04:25
Yes. Promising update!!!!

Bavman has provided me part of the shipping funds. We still don't have enough at this point to ship everything out, but this will get us started.

This week I will start sending out confirmations to the remaining orders. Please check your PMs. I will be posting a simplified Google spreadsheet so everyone can see my progress as I validate orders. Once an order is validated, I will sort and package your items for shipment.

I'll check the postage rates through my office as I can sometimes get a UPS discount. Several people have offered to donate funds to help offset additional shipping charges and to reimburse me for my costs to travel and pick up these items. Any amount is greatly appreciated as it will help us get closer to completing this group buy for everyone.

I will also be posting a spreadsheet of the remaining orders so everyone can see where we're at.

More to come :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 10 November 2013, 20:07:32
Awesome news!

Just a note ; I took over okooko's order, should be 1x PCB/diodes kit + 1x teensy.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 10 November 2013, 20:11:58
Awesome news!

Just a note ; I took over okooko's order, should be 1x PCB/diodes kit + 1x teensy.

Ok I'll add this,

If anyone has any additional order changes, shoot me a PM. It will be much easier for me to keep track of them. :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: oluf on Mon, 11 November 2013, 12:06:57
...
Several people have offered to donate funds to help offset additional shipping charges and to reimburse me for my costs to travel and pick up these items. Any amount is greatly appreciated as it will help us get closer to completing this group buy for everyone.
...

Thank you very much for picking this up... I've got all my stuff, but I know what it's like to be left hanging. I will happily donate toward your efforts Sir!

YGPM
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 11 November 2013, 12:43:05
Thank you olaph!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: blueSmoke on Fri, 15 November 2013, 04:58:08
Wildcard/WFD,

I had bought the R2 pcb+teensy from another member 'netdevil' and bavman had changed the shipping address to mine. I still have not received it.

Who has the PCBs? You? WFD? I can pay for the shipping if needed.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 17 November 2013, 09:18:02
I had bought the R2 pcb+teensy from another member 'netdevil'

PM'd
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 17 November 2013, 09:23:19
Sorry for the delay, I've been spending the last week going over everything to make sure it's as accurate as possible before I send out shipping confirmations. If you notice a problem in my spreadsheet, please PM me directly. I'm trying to keep this thread as clean as possible for everyone else.

Here is the public spreadsheet I created to list the final order counts. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqlitOjHvRzCdG9Qc0xDb3dVV3RUd3g1dDdRWTlET3c&usp=sharing) Again, if something looks incorrect, please PM me and we'll sort it out. I have about a dozen spreadsheets now with various info, so I'm trying my best to make sense of it all :)

I will be sending out final order confirms today/tomorrow.

Edit: One other piece of clarification, the spreadsheet only lists what I have available to ship put, if Bavman shipped your PCB without the plate (in error) and I still have the plate to ship out, then that's what I have listed in the spreadsheet.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: isman on Sun, 17 November 2013, 11:10:35
Ok for me
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:52:21
All order confirmations have been sent out :)

I'll update everything as more info comes in.

Thanks Everyone!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 17 November 2013, 19:22:48
Still waiting

Channeling Abathur
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 21 November 2013, 23:04:38
First domestic batch going out tomorrow
:)

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 22 November 2013, 09:18:50
in the effort of making things easier for wildcard, if anyone in US is interested in taking over my order PM me, I have 1 PCB+1 Plate+1 teensy (1.25)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 22 November 2013, 09:38:48
in the effort of making things easier for wildcard, if anyone in US is interested in taking over my order PM me, I have 1 PCB+1 Plate+1 teensy (1.25)

Which plate?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tgujay on Fri, 22 November 2013, 14:19:05
in the effort of making things easier for wildcard, if anyone in US is interested in taking over my order PM me, I have 1 PCB+1 Plate+1 teensy (1.25)

I'm possibly interested.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 22 November 2013, 16:56:42
in the effort of making things easier for wildcard, if anyone in US is interested in taking over my order PM me, I have 1 PCB+1 Plate+1 teensy (1.25)

Which plate?

I believe (because a century has passed) it's a standard ANSI 1.25 plate.

EDIT: confirmed ANSI125

I have no idea how much I spent. Make an offer :)

EDIT 2: the total should be 35 + 22 + 18 + 15 = $90. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 25 November 2013, 22:29:43
Spreadsheet is currently updated. If you have received an order confirmation, please reply stating if everything looks correct or if you notice issues.

I've been really busy with work and several interviews this week :)

Also, I'll be out of town over Thanksgiving break but I'll be available next week to provide updates.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:34:27
in the effort of making things easier for wildcard, if anyone in US is interested in taking over my order PM me

I'm possibly interested.
Also possibly interested. I think I couldn't because I'm buying too much right this moment.

So yes Matt3o someone will pick up that order soon.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 26 November 2013, 07:48:29
Sorry Matt3o's order was picked up by MJ45. It should reflect in the spreadsheet.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Fri, 06 December 2013, 01:39:55
Hi Wildcard! Any updates so far?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 06 December 2013, 07:16:09
WhiteFireDragon, pls ship my stuff ;-;

Almost a month now and nothing zzz
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 06 December 2013, 08:56:18
Just a general update. I will be packing and shipping more this weekend. I was out of town over thanksgiving and it seems like the weekends are the only days where I have enough free time to sort and pack. More to come :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Sat, 07 December 2013, 09:30:22
I know the feeling all too well ;) thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Ryan Uber on Sat, 07 December 2013, 19:27:59
Got my plate a few days ago and finally able to put the rest of my phantom paraphernalia to use. Even though the plate has been around, probably in multiple people's closets/basements, multiple shipping trucks, etc, it came perfectly intact, not bent or damaged at all. Thanks Wildcard, you are a class act.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Sat, 07 December 2013, 20:27:10

Just a general update. I will be packing and shipping more this weekend. I was out of town over thanksgiving and it seems like the weekends are the only days where I have enough free time to sort and pack. More to come :)

Thanks again wildcard!  Please PM me your pp info.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 09 December 2013, 16:46:30
WFD, what's going on with your end? Have switches from TP but no plate or PCB (or any real indication of where they are).
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 09 December 2013, 17:07:30
WFD, what's going on with your end? Have switches from TP but no plate or PCB (or any real indication of where they are).

+1
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 09 December 2013, 20:59:31
Got my plate a few days ago and finally able to put the rest of my phantom paraphernalia to use. Even though the plate has been around, probably in multiple people's closets/basements, multiple shipping trucks, etc, it came perfectly intact, not bent or damaged at all. Thanks Wildcard, you are a class act.

(Attachment Link)
Glad it arrived :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Rendom on Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:12:18
WFD, what's going on with your end? Have switches from TP but no plate or PCB (or any real indication of where they are).

No communication at all from WFD
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Tue, 10 December 2013, 11:45:00
WFD, what's going on with your end? Have switches from TP but no plate or PCB (or any real indication of where they are).

No communication at all from WFD

Yeah unfortunately for me Bavman shipped him the PCB you originally ordered and I took over and he hasn't sent it on to me even after I offered to pay postage :(

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: gotbadger on Wed, 11 December 2013, 11:14:05
Have any of the international orders been sent out yet?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 11 December 2013, 14:47:33
Have any of the international orders been sent out yet?

Not yet, I'm still trying to determine if it's less expensive to ship from the US or for Matt3o to ship from Italy. Right now I'm trying to get the domestic and Canadian orders shipped.

I wasn't able to get stuff shipped last weekend like I'd hoped. I really want to get them out before the end of this week though.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jabar on Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:52:40
so everyone is about to get their stuff? no one left behind?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:32:35
so everyone is about to get their stuff? no one left behind?

All of the orders that Bavman had, yes. I unfortunately can't speak for those other GH members who were doing assembly services etc...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 13 December 2013, 12:15:38
Weekly update. All validated domestic orders have been shipped. My order spreadsheet has been updated with this information. If you have not validated your order yet please notify me via PM if your information is correct. Due to the many layers of confusion surrounding this group buy, I will not be shipping any order that hasn't been validated. If you don't recall validating your information with me you can view your order status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqlitOjHvRzCdG9Qc0xDb3dVV3RUd3g1dDdRWTlET3c&usp=sharing). I will be sending out a second wave of PM/emails to those outstanding orders.

Tomorrow I will be sending out all validated Canadian orders.

Regarding international orders, I'm going to get my butt in gear and come to a decision on how to handle them. If people are fine with their items shipping without a tracing number, I will most likely ship via the US postal service. But this is still TBD.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: simkev on Sat, 14 December 2013, 15:58:27
I don't think I will ever get my phantom  :'(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 17 December 2013, 09:14:54
Validated Canadian orders have shipped. Additionally, I had one more validated domestic order that shipped Monday.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Pipe on Wed, 18 December 2013, 01:45:58
Regarding international orders, I'm going to get my butt in gear and come to a decision on how to handle them. If people are fine with their items shipping without a tracing number, I will most likely ship via the US postal service. But this is still TBD.
Is it much more expensive to send them with a tracking number through USPS? I'd prefer to have it. I trust you Wildcard, but I don't trust my mailman.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 December 2013, 06:56:38
Actually, all international packages sent through USPS include a tracking number. It's called a "Customs Number" but it's included even with First Class mail, all the way up to Global Express Guaranteed.

Now, actually tracking the package is something else. EMS (Priority Express) is an international standard, and therefore pretty easy to track globally. To track any item sent via USPS, you track it using the USPS website, until it leaves the US. Once that happens, the USPS will likely not update any longer, and the item must be tracked using your own country's postal tracking service.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 18 December 2013, 07:27:12
Thanks Wildcard, my Phantom kit came yesterday very nice packaging. I will have a nice Holiday project Thanks to you sir!!!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 18 December 2013, 08:02:54
Actually, all international packages sent through USPS include a tracking number. It's called a "Customs Number" but it's included even with First Class mail, all the way up to Global Express Guaranteed.

Now, actually tracking the package is something else. EMS (Priority Express) is an international standard, and therefore pretty easy to track globally. To track any item sent via USPS, you track it using the USPS website, until it leaves the US. Once that happens, the USPS will likely not update any longer, and the item must be tracked using your own country's postal tracking service.

Good to know. I recall when I was in the post office they provided a number but I'm pretty sure it doesn't track the package through its complete transit in the same way UPS does. It will provide a shipping confirmation. Shipping to Canada was around $18, ouch.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 December 2013, 08:08:15
Actually, all international packages sent through USPS include a tracking number. It's called a "Customs Number" but it's included even with First Class mail, all the way up to Global Express Guaranteed.

Now, actually tracking the package is something else. EMS (Priority Express) is an international standard, and therefore pretty easy to track globally. To track any item sent via USPS, you track it using the USPS website, until it leaves the US. Once that happens, the USPS will likely not update any longer, and the item must be tracked using your own country's postal tracking service.

Good to know. I recall when I was in the post office they provided a number but I'm pretty sure it doesn't track the package through its complete transit in the same way UPS does. It will provide a shipping confirmation. Shipping to Canada was around $18, ouch.

It all depends on the destination, I've had some where I got tracking updates all the way through delivery through USPS, some where I could track in country and some that once they leave US don't track at all.

For those interested I find this website very useful for tracking http://www.track-trace.com/post
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:27:30
I honestly don't care how much shipping is anymore, just want my phantom :) I've got an awesome case that's only attracting dust for some time now ^^
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Mon, 23 December 2013, 15:17:49
Received mine friday working well so far - just need some stabilizers to finish it off.

Thanks Wildcard, you're a star for sorting all this mess out.

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Sun, 05 January 2014, 07:04:19
Any updates on this Wildcard?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 05 January 2014, 22:19:22
Any updates on this Wildcard?

Sorry everyone, the holiday(s) and work got in the way. Now that things are slowing down I have time again to finish these. I just ordered a postage scale so I can purchase USPS first class international postage from my home. I also found out I can do customs forms online which will save me a ton of time. Please stay patient with me, I want to get these shipped out just as much as you guys want to get them. I'm going to be very very happy once I have time again to actually get my own Phantom built :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Thu, 09 January 2014, 14:34:56
Thanks for the update Wildcard :) don't worry about it, just wanted to hear how things were going since it had been a while. I think for most people work combined with the holidays are indeed an intensive period.
Once the Phantoms get built, we'll all be happy :D
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: remedyhalopc on Thu, 09 January 2014, 23:41:04
If you have anyone that's dropped out, I'll take one.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 12 January 2014, 10:37:19
GOOD NEWS ~ ANYONE UP FOR JENGA?

Everything has been packaged and I'll be printing off the postage/customs forms later today. I have to make a trip to my office supplies store again to get sticky printer sheets. I think the store knows me by name now :)) .

Until these orders ship, they are currently under lock and key and are being watched by a slightly overweight guard dog.

More

(http://i.imgur.com/9udOUfY.jpg)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 12 January 2014, 10:40:03
Great news. Thanks a lot Wildcard.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tgujay on Mon, 13 January 2014, 09:50:50
GOOD NEWS ~ ANYONE UP FOR JENGA?

Everything has been packaged and I'll be printing off the postage/customs forms later today. I have to make a trip to my office supplies store again to get sticky printer sheets. I think the store knows me by name now :)) .

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9udOUfY.jpg)


Until these orders ship, they are currently under lock and key and are being watched by a slightly overweight guard dog.

That dog is adorable.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 13 January 2014, 10:00:33
GOOD NEWS ~ ANYONE UP FOR JENGA?

Everything has been packaged and I'll be printing off the postage/customs forms later today. I have to make a trip to my office supplies store again to get sticky printer sheets. I think the store knows me by name now :)) .

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9udOUfY.jpg)


Until these orders ship, they are currently under lock and key and are being watched by a slightly overweight guard dog.

How do you keep up with what box is for who?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Glod on Mon, 13 January 2014, 12:43:41
dude wildcard you look like you are shipping that stuff proper. I lost the picture of how bavman shipped my phantom order but it was horrible, no padding just pcbs sandwiched in plates in envelope and it was bent. but I guess I was lucky to just get my phantom from bav at all.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Mon, 13 January 2014, 13:24:28
Awesome Wildcard! The end is near. And yeah, that is one hell of a guard dog ;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 13 January 2014, 21:32:46
That dog is adorable.
He's got a little ego though.
dude wildcard you look like you are shipping that stuff proper. I lost the picture of how bavman shipped my phantom order but it was horrible, no padding just pcbs sandwiched in plates in envelope and it was bent. but I guess I was lucky to just get my phantom from bav at all.

I actually had to unpack the few orders that were packaged by him because they weren't packaged well IMO. I wrap the boards in bubble wrap and then suspend that using peanuts or air bags. I wish these boxes were a few inches wider but they still left enough room on the sides.
How do you keep up with what box is for who?

Dammit, I knew I forgot something. I have to un-package these now. LOL, no I have an order form with tear off tags which I tape to the boxes. I then print off multiple shipping labels and match them to the tags.
Awesome Wildcard! The end is near. And yeah, that is one hell of a guard dog ;)
 

He looks cute and fluffy at first, but watch out for those sharp point teeth! :) 
More
(http://i.imgur.com/OxL1qgy.png)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 15 January 2014, 00:49:33
Ok postage is on the boxes, customs forms are done, everything is ready to be dropped off. Everyone who provided an email address you should be receiving a delivery confirmation from The US Postal Service once the boxes are scanned in tomorrow evening.

Additionally, I had a few more US orders that finally were validated that shipped out earlier this week.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 15 January 2014, 18:39:36
Everything I have has finally been shipped and Bavman's Phantom R2 box of stuff that I picked up several months ago is finally empty. Now with that being said...

I want to take a moment to recognize several people who's helped this group buy reach the end.

Matt3o - Without the support and constant communication that Matt3o was able to make with Bavman, this would all have been impossible. Matt3o was able to communicate with Bavman after his extended absence from geekhack and was able to get Bavman to start working with me.

Bpiphany - for allowing us to re-make the Phantom

WFD - For all the work he did in getting the plates cut. Also, without WFD's detailed records, I wouldn't have been able to piece together all the jumbled order information I had.

And I want to thank the GH community for being patient with me as I tried to make this group buy work in what has been one of the roughest years for me to date. This was, without a doubt, the group buy I never wanted to run. But I felt compelled to reach out to a member in trouble and try to salvage what I could.


Thanks again everyone, and let the building begin!

That's all folks :thumb:

*** WILDCARD ***
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: oluf on Wed, 15 January 2014, 20:34:28
...And all of those that pitched in extra money, just so others could get their stuff. ;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 15 January 2014, 21:00:50
Finally. GLHF builders!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: strict on Wed, 15 January 2014, 21:45:30
Wow, Im really bummed I missed out on this. Im watching WFD's build tutorial on youtube now and these look like they would have been a lot of fun to build. If Phantom v3 ever comes about I will one of the first to get in line for that. After seeing the cluster**** this GB turned into though Im not going to hold my breath :(
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Thu, 16 January 2014, 06:03:45
Awesome! Thanks so much for doing this for all of us Wildcard, even while having a tough year. You have my utmost respect :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:09:06
Now... who wants to organize a cool alumin(i)um case?

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:20:39
...And all of those that pitched in extra money, just so others could get their stuff. ;)

Yes!!! I almost forgot, I want to thank everyone who contributed. I had the obvious expenses, travelling to meet Bavman (gas, hotel, etc..) along with the my other unexpected expenses (increases in international postage, some packaging materials, postage scale, etc...) Your support helped make this an overall success. Thank you again :thumb:
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Mon, 20 January 2014, 18:54:16
Just wanted to throw out another thank you to Wildcard for getting all of these out. Just got mine today. Now to find some stabilizers (hint hint, if anyone knows where to get some costar 7x) and I'm set. Feels like nearly a year later but just looking at the PCB makes it worth it.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Pipe on Tue, 21 January 2014, 00:54:28
Thank you Wildcard.  I'm sorry that online form didn't work. USPS tracking is working perfectly fine.
Now to find some stabilizers (hint hint, if anyone knows where to get some costar 7x) and I'm set. Feels like nearly a year later but just looking at the PCB makes it worth it.
I'm looking for 7x stabilizers (cherry or costar) as well. I didn't order anything because I didn't expect to ever get my phantom. So if anyone is desperate to get rid of some cherry stabs or a case let me know. :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Proc31 on Tue, 21 January 2014, 06:35:40
Now to find some stabilizers (hint hint, if anyone knows where to get some costar 7x) and I'm set.

Lister has created a guide on how to make them.

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:41:09
Sadly I don't have any or the switches to spare. You don't need the wire with cherry correct? If so I'm sure those would be easier to get a hold of and I've never really tried them that way.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:44:23
I followed Litser's guide and made my own 7x wire without the bump in the middle (didn't need it and it's hard) so have the tools and some wire left over to make a few more.

If anyone wants one (for free) let me know - I'll even cover USA postage (while stocks last)

For those wanting their own tools and wire http://www.riders.com/ had the items in stock at good prices.

[)amien
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nebo on Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:55:12
I'd take one but I'll cover postage because I hate being too much of a free loader. Now just to find costar stabs for the four other keys + the little clips to connect them (this (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts/cherry-mx-plate-mounted-stabilizer-clips-2pcs.html#ad-image-0) is all that's needed for the spacebar correct?). :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Tue, 21 January 2014, 14:01:31
Yup, you need a pair of those clips for each key you want to stabilize.

WASD sell the 2x stabilizer for the other keys http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts/cherry-mx-stabilizer-spring-for-2x-keycaps.html#ad-image-0 - even the wider shift only uses a 2x stabilizer bar.

PM me your address and I'll try and get it in the mail today.

[)amien

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 21 January 2014, 15:48:17
I followed Litser's guide and made my own 7x wire without the bump in the middle (didn't need it and it's hard) so have the tools and some wire left over to make a few more.

If anyone wants one (for free) let me know - I'll even cover USA postage (while stocks last)

For those wanting their own tools and wire http://www.riders.com/ had the items in stock at good prices.

[)amien

I will take one as well, I'll cover postage too.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Proc31 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:00:28
I followed Litser's guide and made my own 7x wire without the bump in the middle (didn't need it and it's hard) so have the tools and some wire left over to make a few more.

If anyone wants one (for free) let me know - I'll even cover USA postage (while stocks last)

For those wanting their own tools and wire http://www.riders.com/ had the items in stock at good prices.

[)amien

I've sent you a PM. Thanks for the offer!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: DamienG on Wed, 22 January 2014, 22:31:36
Okay, nine bars that aren't too shabby are being packed ready to head out into the world.

[)amien

Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: TDub on Thu, 23 January 2014, 06:17:05
Got my Phantom today!!! Wildcard, thank you so much for making it possible!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: xauser on Thu, 23 January 2014, 14:07:49
Mine arrived as well, safe and sound! Thank you wildcard!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: pasph on Thu, 23 January 2014, 14:46:04
It's incredible that all of you got those before i can get mine from WFD
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 23 January 2014, 14:50:23
Glad to see everyones boards are arriving safely :)

Also, if anyone runs into any issues let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 24 January 2014, 09:13:06
It came! It finally came! THANK YOU WILDCARD!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 26 January 2014, 14:44:58
It came! It finally came! THANK YOU WILDCARD!

So how did the box look when you received it? Did the extra padding on the inside help the box keep its shape during transit.

I used 2 large bags of packaging peanuts in addition to the bubble wrap to keep these safe. :)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 26 January 2014, 14:49:47
It came! It finally came! THANK YOU WILDCARD!

So how did the box look when you received it? Did the extra padding on the inside help the box keep its shape during transit.

I used 2 large bags of packaging peanuts in addition to the bubble wrap to keep these safe. :)
The box looked completely untouched. Great packaging.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 27 January 2014, 00:29:38
It came! It finally came! THANK YOU WILDCARD!

So how did the box look when you received it? Did the extra padding on the inside help the box keep its shape during transit.

I used 2 large bags of packaging peanuts in addition to the bubble wrap to keep these safe. :)
The box looked completely untouched. Great packaging.

Awesome. Enjoy your build :thumb:
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Paranoid on Wed, 29 January 2014, 13:15:58
Damien, I received the wires already yesterday! That was crazy fast shipping O_O Thanks again for these. I'll definitely keep this in mind for the future if I can hook you up with something.

And Wildcard, your package has arrived as well! Still have to get it from the post office though :( those buttmunchers wouldn't let me pick it up the same evening. Anyway, very excited! :) thanks a million, the same goes for you as I mentioned above ;)
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 29 January 2014, 13:22:40
Damien, I received the wires already yesterday! That was crazy fast shipping O_O Thanks again for these. I'll definitely keep this in mind for the future if I can hook you up with something.

And Wildcard, your package has arrived as well! Still have to get it from the post office though :( those buttmunchers wouldn't let me pick it up the same evening. Anyway, very excited! :) thanks a million, the same goes for you as I mentioned above ;)

Damien is a saint, I received my 7x spacebar wires as well, they are perfect!
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: reality404 on Tue, 04 February 2014, 23:13:43
Got the PCB a couple weeks ago. Thanks Wildcard for shipping my order it was very well packed.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Piehunter on Fri, 07 February 2014, 08:08:56
so umm... I was just wondering if all canadian orders were sent out or did mine just got lost in the mail...
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Dasuchin on Wed, 02 April 2014, 17:02:21
Is there another group buy for this or another way to get a PCB? I'm guessing this is the same thing thats listed here http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536 ?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: duq on Wed, 02 April 2014, 19:20:26
Is there another group buy for this or another way to get a PCB? I'm guessing this is the same thing thats listed here http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536 ?

Essentially yes. This order came with some of the other things you would need as well. But the PCB should be identical... albeit white in color.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: boxfulofsanity on Thu, 17 April 2014, 09:23:53
Will another GB happen for the Phantom?
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 17 April 2014, 09:25:05
Will another GB happen for the Phantom?

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 17 April 2014, 09:25:58
Will another GB happen for the Phantom?

No need. You can buy the PCB directly from mechanicalkeyboards.com

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536


EDIT: Ninja'd by nubs.
Title: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 17 April 2014, 13:35:33
I have some extra stuff I might end up not using. Keep your eyes out in the classified section.