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MoreQuote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:09:36Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:56:58Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:44:35Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 18 June 2014, 17:45:10Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:58:00Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:25:22Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.Oh, so this GB is for the latest unreleased-to-public revision?yes, the most current pcb revision is what we will be manufacturing.What improvements does this updated version have?There was a bug in the previous version, if you used backlighting, it shorted a trace from the last column of switches I believe.Does this mean that the previous versions are functional but this backlighting issue?What it means to me is:Why would you ever willingly purchase a product with a known flaw? Especially if the revised version was, or was soon to be, available?
Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:56:58Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:44:35Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 18 June 2014, 17:45:10Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:58:00Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:25:22Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.Oh, so this GB is for the latest unreleased-to-public revision?yes, the most current pcb revision is what we will be manufacturing.What improvements does this updated version have?There was a bug in the previous version, if you used backlighting, it shorted a trace from the last column of switches I believe.Does this mean that the previous versions are functional but this backlighting issue?
Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:44:35Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 18 June 2014, 17:45:10Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:58:00Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:25:22Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.Oh, so this GB is for the latest unreleased-to-public revision?yes, the most current pcb revision is what we will be manufacturing.What improvements does this updated version have?There was a bug in the previous version, if you used backlighting, it shorted a trace from the last column of switches I believe.
Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 18 June 2014, 17:45:10Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:58:00Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:25:22Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.Oh, so this GB is for the latest unreleased-to-public revision?yes, the most current pcb revision is what we will be manufacturing.What improvements does this updated version have?
Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:58:00Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:25:22Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.Oh, so this GB is for the latest unreleased-to-public revision?yes, the most current pcb revision is what we will be manufacturing.
Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:25:22Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.Oh, so this GB is for the latest unreleased-to-public revision?
Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.
I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?
No, no, no. The version being sold here will be the final revision. mkawa is working with komar007 to get more of the production version PCBs made. I was answering a question about "GH60s" being sold on taobao.
Excuse my ignorance, because this question's answer should be pretty obvious for most of you, but does the GH60 PCB have slots for Cherry PCB mounted stabilizers?
Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:09:36Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:56:58Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:44:35Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 18 June 2014, 17:45:10Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:58:00Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:25:22Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.Oh, so this GB is for the latest unreleased-to-public revision?yes, the most current pcb revision is what we will be manufacturing.What improvements does this updated version have?There was a bug in the previous version, if you used backlighting, it shorted a trace from the last column of switches I believe.Does this mean that the previous versions are functional but this backlighting issue?What it means to me is:Why would you ever willingly purchase a product with a known flaw? Especially if the revised version was, or was soon to be, available?
Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 23:24:28Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:09:36Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:56:58Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:44:35Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 18 June 2014, 17:45:10Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:58:00Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:25:22Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.Oh, so this GB is for the latest unreleased-to-public revision?yes, the most current pcb revision is what we will be manufacturing.What improvements does this updated version have?There was a bug in the previous version, if you used backlighting, it shorted a trace from the last column of switches I believe.Does this mean that the previous versions are functional but this backlighting issue?What it means to me is:Why would you ever willingly purchase a product with a known flaw? Especially if the revised version was, or was soon to be, available?If the flaw didn't affect the intended use of said product (I wouldn't plan on backlighting) also timing with having to wait X amount of time for revised version or get now with "flawed" version.
Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:44:17Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 23:24:28Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:09:36Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:56:58Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:44:35Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 18 June 2014, 17:45:10Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:58:00Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:25:22Quote from: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:24:01I've seen many listings on taobao for these GH60 PCBs. I'm curious, wouldn't it be faster for the people interested only in the PCB to simply purchase one through taobao?Those are Rev.B prototype PCBs that some Chinese sellers sent to production.The final revision has not been released to the public yet.Oh, so this GB is for the latest unreleased-to-public revision?yes, the most current pcb revision is what we will be manufacturing.What improvements does this updated version have?There was a bug in the previous version, if you used backlighting, it shorted a trace from the last column of switches I believe.Does this mean that the previous versions are functional but this backlighting issue?What it means to me is:Why would you ever willingly purchase a product with a known flaw? Especially if the revised version was, or was soon to be, available?If the flaw didn't affect the intended use of said product (I wouldn't plan on backlighting) also timing with having to wait X amount of time for revised version or get now with "flawed" version.Cost and availability. Unless what I found was a Face U, its price under 15 bucks is unbeatable. I do not really need back light, I always think it is very fancy and good for the eyes, but not needed for functionality.
Will the final revision PCB designs be publicly available?
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Quote from: eosph on Thu, 19 June 2014, 16:04:34Will the final revision PCB designs be publicly available?There was chatter of mechanicalkeyboards.com selling them at some point, so possibly yes.
i've gone ahead and listed the titanium plates. PCB plans are still under wraps, and will not be revealed until after the current GH60 gb shipsplates: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59834.new#newFor the moment, I'm going to say that these are available anodized. Please specify your color from the standard colors in your order notes:standard colors: (Attachment Link)
i don't want to say anything about that yet because 1) we're not organized enough to know and 2) not to pitchfork the GH60 gb people
Will these plates be compatible with a typical 60% like a poker ii? If so, I am interested!
Quote from: Heliosphere on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:32:57Will these plates be compatible with a typical 60% like a poker ii? If so, I am interested!They don't have the opening next to the Caps Lock switch hole for the LED, if that concerns you.
Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:35:22Quote from: Heliosphere on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:32:57Will these plates be compatible with a typical 60% like a poker ii? If so, I am interested!They don't have the opening next to the Caps Lock switch hole for the LED, if that concerns you.I have a back-lit poker, so I guess it won't be compatible?
Quote from: Heliosphere on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:36:34Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:35:22Quote from: Heliosphere on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:32:57Will these plates be compatible with a typical 60% like a poker ii? If so, I am interested!They don't have the opening next to the Caps Lock switch hole for the LED, if that concerns you.I have a back-lit poker, so I guess it won't be compatible? It's compatible as long as you don't care to have an LED indicator that Caps Lock is on. Or if you want to drill a hole in the plate.
you can use HSS with TiN coating or bright HSS, but keep the feed rates low and use lots of cutting oil. cobalt/full carbide bits are definitely preferred
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:34:01i don't want to say anything about that yet because 1) we're not organized enough to know and 2) not to pitchfork the GH60 gb peopleMaybe the title of the thread should be changed to: [IC] GH60 Ti plates, otherwise it suggests PCBs can be offered, while it is clear they cannot be offered now.
Quote from: ideus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 12:11:38Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:34:01i don't want to say anything about that yet because 1) we're not organized enough to know and 2) not to pitchfork the GH60 gb peopleMaybe the title of the thread should be changed to: [IC] GH60 Ti plates, otherwise it suggests PCBs can be offered, while it is clear they cannot be offered now. it's still an IC for the pcbs. we are actually trying to get as accurate a feel for the remaining pcb demand as possible.as for plates, i've opened up orders now that i have a pretty good idea of what the demand is.
I'd be up for a 60% plate