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Offline quad_h

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[IC] JTK 3600
« on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 22:13:38 »
Good morning, friends!

Have you been doing well?

I have recently been looking for a company to realize the design of Goldworms.

Among them, we held consultations with JTK and decided to join JTK.



Group buy Info




SYMBOLICS 3600
https://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=230

He was inspired by SYMBOLICS 3600 and prepared to use the high-quality colors of the past to fit the layout used in today's time.







Color?
The color is custom.
Color chip will work with JTK.

Spec ?
High quality doubleshot ABS plastic
Cherry profile and 1.5mm thick


- Example image
Packaging: PC sorting trays include

The composition is only one base kit.

When?
01.2020

Where?
Europe, the U.S., and Asia are in talks and Korea will be in charge of the Let's get it.




Renders
made by Goldworms, the master of hidden rendering.





















« Last Edit: Thu, 05 December 2019, 22:19:05 by quad_h »

Offline Ensaum

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 22:33:26 »
Very cool. I'm interested. How would it look with the alpha legend color on the first 3 mod rows to better match the original set though?

Offline Beerbezerker

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 00:33:58 »
I'll definitely be following this set's development, I love the colour choice. Is a 40% & spacebar kit a possibility beyond the lovely base kit?

Offline quad_h

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 00:51:36 »
Much to our regret,

no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.

I will prepare for the next step.

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 00:52:08 »
Much to our regret, no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first. I will prepare for the next step.


Much to our regret,

no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.

I will prepare for the next step.


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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 00:53:45 »
Very cool. I'm interested. How would it look with the alpha legend color on the first 3 mod rows to better match the original set though?

I'll try to prepare the rendering again for that version.

But we prefer our planned design.

Offline Beerbezerker

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 02:33:08 »
Much to our regret,

no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.

I will prepare for the next step.

Good to know, appreciate the reply. Excited to see how this set develops.

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 03:15:51 »
Much to our regret,

no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.

I will prepare for the next step.

This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 03:20:46 »
Much to our regret,

no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.

I will prepare for the next step.

This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...

Depends on the manufacturer - I don't really understand what "JKT's improvement plan comes first" means, but some systems make kits not plausible.

For example in the case of Infinikey, they don't have child kits because the child kit MOQ is 300.

Would be interesting to know what JTK's reasoning is though.


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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 05:11:09 »
You may want to check the support for English (UK) - you have a key in the wrong row (a mistake JTK has made in the past, too).

Seems to be a consistent mistake in JTK sets, oddly

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 05:17:36 »
Much to our regret,

no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.

I will prepare for the next step.

This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...

Depends on the manufacturer - I don't really understand what "JKT's improvement plan comes first" means, but some systems make kits not plausible.

For example in the case of Infinikey, they don't have child kits because the child kit MOQ is 300.

Would be interesting to know what JTK's reasoning is though.

JTK caps are doubleshot, so every key needs its own physical mold.

JTK has had legend problems in the past, and has been working to improve the quality of their legends.

Result: the same kits run again without modification.
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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 08:29:11 »
I love this look! Someone showed me this over on Keebtalk after I posted the GMK Ashes IC. I'm totally down to get the set! Light Mods with Dark Alphas is slowly becoming my favorite look!

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 10:02:54 »
Yes. I like it. 

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But I think we're at the peak of gray/neutral based sets.  ASCII didn't sell as well as I thought it might.  Maybe the JTK price will bring more people in?
« Last Edit: Fri, 06 December 2019, 10:05:15 by pixelpusher »

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 16:31:59 »
Heh...yet another one due-to-UV hard yellowing color copy adept. That is NOT symoblics colors.
If you can't find 3600 to see it by yourself,  can't you search the proper photos in the wild?

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 17:05:23 »
I definitely prefer the dark gray/light gray/white of the original colors.

Offline Beerbezerker

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 00:42:38 »
Yawn, there's a thousand off-white & grey/dark grey/black keysets out there already for sale, in IC or GB. I think the gold lettering is offering something different & is very eye-catching!
« Last Edit: Sat, 07 December 2019, 01:14:27 by Beerbezerker »

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 07:21:27 »
I like the Quad_H key!


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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 09:06:28 »
Much to our regret,

no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.

I will prepare for the next step.

This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...

Depends on the manufacturer - I don't really understand what "JKT's improvement plan comes first" means, but some systems make kits not plausible.

For example in the case of Infinikey, they don't have child kits because the child kit MOQ is 300.

Would be interesting to know what JTK's reasoning is though.

JTK caps are doubleshot, so every key needs its own physical mold.

JTK has had legend problems in the past, and has been working to improve the quality of their legends.

Result: the same kits run again without modification.
Actually it is not true sir, we are remaking most of keys legends.

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 09:20:31 »
Much to our regret,

no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.

I will prepare for the next step.

This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...

Depends on the manufacturer - I don't really understand what "JKT's improvement plan comes first" means, but some systems make kits not plausible.

For example in the case of Infinikey, they don't have child kits because the child kit MOQ is 300.

Would be interesting to know what JTK's reasoning is though.

To expain JTK's improvement plan sir:

Background:
From JTK CA profile verion 1 to JTK CA profile version 5(the latest version), we really did much improvments work on different keys. If you check version 1 to version 5 one by one, you can find out many improvements. But there are 2 main reasons why we can not completely solve all the problems:
1, We did not realize all all the problems. We always did some improments afther some customers or other one told us. But not all.
2, We could not do all the  modification wihile producing.

Result:
After we finish 5 version JTK process we find out that it is too passive to do improvements afther someone tell us. So we make a big desiion:
We will remake most JTK key legends (except alps and some basic keys). There will be more than 90+ keys remaking in this plan.
We will update those legends later on our website.

We hope this plan can bring new understanding of JTK to our customers



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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 13:55:07 »
liking the colors scheme! hope it makes it to gb

Offline quad_h

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 21:48:45 »
You may want to check the support for English (UK) - you have a key in the wrong row (a mistake JTK has made in the past, too).

Seems to be a consistent mistake in JTK sets, oddly

You mean ISO layout?
I'd appreciate it if you could give me more details.

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 21:50:54 »
Yes. I like it. 

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But I think we're at the peak of gray/neutral based sets.  ASCII didn't sell as well as I thought it might.  Maybe the JTK price will bring more people in?

I'm sorry I didn't know if there was a similar GMK.

However, I think there is an advantage that is definitely different in color and rich in composition and cheaper than GMK.

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 21:52:23 »
Heh...yet another one due-to-UV hard yellowing color copy adept. That is NOT symoblics colors.
If you can't find 3600 to see it by yourself,  can't you search the proper photos in the wild?

(Attachment Link)

Thank you for your good comments.

But I had no idea it was a tanning color.

Thank you for the good information.

But I like both the new and original colors that were inspired.

I think I'll have to make a difficult decision
« Last Edit: Mon, 09 December 2019, 21:54:04 by quad_h »

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 21:56:14 »
Much to our regret,

no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.

I will prepare for the next step.

This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...

JTK doesn't have a mold ready to make the kit you want.

The main concern is that there are fewer users who actually need the kit than the increased cost by adding the kit.

We are still discussing it with JTK, but it may be something to be considered later.

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 03:14:45 »
You may want to check the support for English (UK) - you have a key in the wrong row (a mistake JTK has made in the past, too).

Seems to be a consistent mistake in JTK sets, oddly

You mean ISO layout?
I'd appreciate it if you could give me more details.
The '@ key belongs on the same row as #~, rather than with \|. No row numbers are marked but I believe this needs to be R3 when it is currently R4.

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 08:16:47 »
Take my money, seriously.  Why not KAT?
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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 13:53:12 »
Any interest in more neutral grays? This is what I was going for with GMK-200.
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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 11 December 2019, 04:35:46 »
Couldn't make it more vintage!
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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 13 December 2019, 12:26:35 »
I was just thinking about trying to put go through my keycap collection to mimic this colorway!

Colors look great! I'd be all over this if it was SA profile =)

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 16 December 2019, 12:10:46 »
Heh...yet another one due-to-UV hard yellowing color copy adept. That is NOT symoblics colors.
If you can't find 3600 to see it by yourself,  can't you search the proper photos in the wild?

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Totally agree with that.

This one looks more like a color like coffee.

I feel that jtk used the colors they have produced before, which can reduce the cost and selling price. I think it is great, but first of all, designer should respect the original color. These two have basically no similarity.
In addition,   the keycaps use hsa height might be better.
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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 08 January 2020, 07:43:06 »
I was just thinking about trying to put go through my keycap collection to mimic this colorway!

Colors look great! I'd be all over this if it was SA profile =)

The guy who did SA Symbiosis R2 is already doing this in SA profile: https://jiekb.com/2019/10/lisp-machine-keyset-episode-2-sa-hacker/

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 19 February 2020, 08:56:52 »
Really interested love the colors.


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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 19 February 2020, 09:01:11 »
Is there any update on when a GB will be happening?


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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 07:09:53 »
I also would love this set.  Any update on if it is happening?
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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 08:25:23 »
Heh...yet another one due-to-UV hard yellowing color copy adept. That is NOT symoblics colors.
If you can't find 3600 to see it by yourself,  can't you search the proper photos in the wild?

(Attachment Link)

Thank you for your good comments.

But I had no idea it was a tanning color.

Thank you for the good information.

But I like both the new and original colors that were inspired.

I think I'll have to make a difficult decision

+1 for non-yellowed legends.

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Re: [IC] JTK 3600
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 18:06:24 »
I also would love this set.  Any update on if it is happening?

not currently in the JTK schedule but i am not privy to communications between OP and JTK so could be inaccurate
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