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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #150 on: Sat, 16 March 2019, 15:22:06 »
Quote from: Loligagger on Sat, 16 March 2019, 15:01:58
Quote from: biip on Thu, 14 March 2019, 07:12:16
Compatibility update on the ergo kit:

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2.25u and 2.75u (blanks) spacebars won't be convex :

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It's better, I'll still say the ergo kit should have the "/' key as horizontal & R3 home/end keys though.

these keys are in the base kit :thumb:
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #151 on: Sat, 16 March 2019, 16:49:23 »
Quote from: biip on Sat, 16 March 2019, 15:22:06
these keys are in the base kit :thumb:

A horizontal 1.5u "/' key & R3 home/end keys aren't (R3 pgup/pgdn are though). Unless I'm just blind or something but I don't see them.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #152 on: Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:19:06 »
Quote from: Loligagger on Sat, 16 March 2019, 16:49:23
Quote from: biip on Sat, 16 March 2019, 15:22:06
these keys are in the base kit :thumb:

A horizontal 1.5u "/' key & R3 home/end keys aren't (R3 pgup/pgdn are though). Unless I'm just blind or something but I don't see them.

My bad I thought you were talking about a 1.5u pipe key.
Will look at that asap :thumb:
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #153 on: Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:38:51 »

The international kit is missing two keys:


3#£
+?\


Please add them, they are needed for the swedish layout that is fully covered but those two keys.


Edit: A vim HJKL arrow kit would rock. An escape accent kit in orange as well.
« Last Edit: Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:48:12 by ideus »
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #154 on: Sat, 16 March 2019, 22:17:38 »
Quote from: ideus on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:38:51

The international kit is missing two keys:


3#£
+?\


Please add them, they are needed for the swedish layout that is fully covered but those two keys.


Edit: A vim HJKL arrow kit would rock. An escape accent kit in orange as well.
I would love to see a vim kit as well
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #155 on: Sun, 17 March 2019, 18:25:22 »
Quote from: ideus on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:38:51

Edit: A vim HJKL arrow kit would rock. An escape accent kit in orange as well.

+1  :cool:
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #156 on: Sun, 17 March 2019, 20:22:04 »
Another for a vim kit and please keep blank 2.25u and 2.75u keys in a kit to use as spacebars even if they are not shaped like traditional spacebars
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #157 on: Sun, 17 March 2019, 21:05:03 »
Quote from: rockydbull on Sun, 17 March 2019, 20:22:04
Another for a vim kit and please keep blank 2.25u and 2.75u keys in a kit to use as spacebars even if they are not shaped like traditional spacebars


Those caps are in the nomad kit. I need them as well.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #158 on: Sun, 17 March 2019, 23:16:07 »
Regarding the Six Pack, I thought that epbt have both centre and off centre stems together on the same keycap.
Do you know if they separate molds for off-centre and centre as well?
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #159 on: Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:18:41 »
Quote from: ideus on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:38:51

The international kit is missing two keys:


3#£
+?\


Please add them, they are needed for the swedish layout that is fully covered but those two keys.


Edit: A vim HJKL arrow kit would rock. An escape accent kit in orange as well.

These two keys are in the Intl kit but without the sublegend so it can covers other languages.
I'm not sure that third legend is that much needed. Let me know it that's necessary…

And sorry, VIM kit is not planed.


Quote from: gok101 on Sun, 17 March 2019, 23:16:07
Regarding the Six Pack, I thought that epbt have both centre and off centre stems together on the same keycap.
Do you know if they separate molds for off-centre and centre as well?

EPBT can provide two different 6u's and two different homing keys (barred and scooped) :thumb:


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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #160 on: Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:29:39 »
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #161 on: Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:31:14 »
Quote from: wellbeing44 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:29:39
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #162 on: Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:33:57 »
Quote from: biip on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:31:14
Quote from: wellbeing44 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:29:39
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.
I think most people would want that
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #163 on: Mon, 18 March 2019, 08:11:25 »
No homing best homing
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #164 on: Mon, 18 March 2019, 22:34:20 »
barred
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #165 on: Mon, 18 March 2019, 22:36:14 »
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #166 on: Mon, 18 March 2019, 23:29:03 »
Please add the +?\ key. The 3#£ would be nice but a 3# key with no pound sign is still acceptable.


Edit: The +?\ key is found in the Swedish/Finish layout only and I did not find it with no backslash in any other European layout.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #167 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 03:01:31 »
Quote from: ideus on Mon, 18 March 2019, 23:29:03
Please add the +?\ key. The 3#£ would be nice but a 3# key with no pound sign is still acceptable.


Edit: The +?\ key is found in the Swedish/Finish layout only and I did not find it with no backslash in any other European layout.

Am I missing something or are these 2 keys already present in the Intl kit?
I mean, without the third legend.

The thing is, are the third legend that important? Or would you guys rather have a lower cost?

I might also throw away the <> 'duplicates' if it doesn't bother people :thumb:

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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #168 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 06:06:31 »
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Blank switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k



more info coming soon™.
« Last Edit: Wed, 20 March 2019, 08:45:20 by biip »
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #169 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:19:58 »
Jeez. Seems like custom switches are now becoming standard!
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #170 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:22:18 »
Quote from: romevi on Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:19:58
Jeez. Seems like custom switches are now becoming standard!

I like it.

And you.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #171 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:33:19 »
AWESOME
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #172 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:49:04 »
Quote from: biip on Tue, 19 March 2019, 03:01:31
Quote from: ideus on Mon, 18 March 2019, 23:29:03
Please add the +?\ key. The 3#£ would be nice but a 3# key with no pound sign is still acceptable.


Edit: The +?\ key is found in the Swedish/Finish layout only and I did not find it with no backslash in any other European layout.

Am I missing something or are these 2 keys already present in the Intl kit?
I mean, without the third legend.

The thing is, are the third legend that important? Or would you guys rather have a lower cost?

I might also throw away the <> 'duplicates' if it doesn't bother people :thumb:

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Personally, I need the tertiary legend in symbol only keys like <>| and +?\ While I touch type letters and numbers I still need some hint for less frequent symbols that take AltGr. Fortunately most Norde kits come with them. I hope this also comes with them. I will keep an eye on this and decide if it works for me in its final form.



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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #173 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 11:59:02 »
Quote from: Vigrith on Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:22:18
Quote from: romevi on Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:19:58
Jeez. Seems like custom switches are now becoming standard!

I like it.

And you.


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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #174 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:02:45 »
how do you guys deal with your warped space bars and 2u+ keys?  I have two ePBT sets that I can't even use on cherry stabilizers b/c they are curved so bad they make the stabilizers bind.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #175 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:08:24 »
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #176 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:09:04 »
Quote from: Marutks on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:08:24
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #177 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:10:41 »
Quote from: Marutks on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:08:24
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.

ePBT larger keys are almost always very banana shaped/ warped, yes.  I have 2 MT3 sets as well and no warping at all.  It has to do with thickness of caps, design of supports inside the cap, manufacturing technique (proper cooling technique), and QC weeding out ones that are bad.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #178 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:11:10 »
Quote from: _ODIN_ on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:09:04
Quote from: Marutks on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:08:24
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #179 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:12:04 »
Quote from: ideus on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:11:10
Quote from: _ODIN_ on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:09:04
Quote from: Marutks on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:08:24
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #180 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:18:48 »
Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:12:04
Quote from: ideus on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:11:10
Quote from: _ODIN_ on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:09:04
Quote from: Marutks on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:08:24
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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Epbt = enjoy pbt?

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This, questions about warping issues are relevant.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #181 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 21:39:57 »
Quote from: biip on Tue, 19 March 2019, 06:06:31
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Latte switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k

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more info coming soon™.

Noice! Finnally a beautiful mono switch, looking forward to more info :)
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #182 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 22:24:10 »
Quote from: ideus on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:18:48
Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:12:04
Quote from: ideus on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:11:10
Quote from: _ODIN_ on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:09:04
Quote from: Marutks on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:08:24
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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This, questions about warping issues are relevant.

Agreed. The last 3 sets of enjoyPBT sets I've purchased all have warped spacebars. Not unusable, but not ideal. KBD fans posted something on their website about possibly working on a new mold to fix the issue. Look on the bottom of the page here in red:
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/cherry-profile/products/gbenjoypbt-grayscale-keycaps-set
Might be worthwhile to try to get details.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #183 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 22:25:24 »
Quote from: biip on Tue, 19 March 2019, 06:06:31
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Latte switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k

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more info coming soon™.

Oh lord, nice nice nice!
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #184 on: Wed, 20 March 2019, 14:11:44 »
Quote from: macclack on Tue, 19 March 2019, 22:24:10
Look on the bottom of the page here in red:


LOL  "You can heat it with hot water, then place it on the table, press it with a book, and when it cools, it will straighten"    :D
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #185 on: Wed, 20 March 2019, 15:17:50 »
Quote from: biip on Tue, 19 March 2019, 06:06:31
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Blank switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k

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more info coming soon™.
Looks cool, but Sonic switches IC that were supposed to also be recolored T1 just announced that colored nylon housing is a no-go. Are you sure these can actually get made?
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #186 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 02:57:49 »
Quote from: TuCZnak on Wed, 20 March 2019, 15:17:50
Quote from: biip on Tue, 19 March 2019, 06:06:31
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Blank switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k

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more info coming soon™.
Looks cool, but Sonic switches IC that were supposed to also be recolored T1 just announced that colored nylon housing is a no-go. Are you sure these can actually get made?

Well, if the housing can't be in nylon, I think I'll just pass and not offer these switches since there is no real interest of having a transparent housing…
I should get confirmation soon anyways!
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #187 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 05:38:07 »
Quote from: biip on Tue, 19 March 2019, 03:01:31
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Quote from: ideus on Mon, 18 March 2019, 23:29:03
Please add the +?\ key. The 3#£ would be nice but a 3# key with no pound sign is still acceptable.


Edit: The +?\ key is found in the Swedish/Finish layout only and I did not find it with no backslash in any other European layout.

Am I missing something or are these 2 keys already present in the Intl kit?
I mean, without the third legend.

The thing is, are the third legend that important? Or would you guys rather have a lower cost?

I might also throw away the <> 'duplicates' if it doesn't bother people :thumb:

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Is it not the exact same 3#-button in both the base and the international kit? Personally I think adding the £-legend makes more sense than including what is essentially a duplicate key.
Or am I missing something?

As for the <> 'duplicates', the Norwegian layout only has <> bound to that key, and either way I don't care too much.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #188 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 05:57:08 »
Can't wait for this!
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #189 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 08:29:14 »
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #190 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 08:42:57 »
Quote from: biip on Mon, 25 March 2019, 08:29:14
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.

Nooooooo! I was so excited that I would be able to kit out the vintage m0110 I’m working on. Sad news indeed :(

Def still in though :)
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #191 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:20:22 »
Intl kit updated

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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #192 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:35:16 »
Quote from: biip on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:31:14
Quote from: wellbeing44 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:29:39
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.

Looking at the render I can’t quite tell, but are there just bars and no homing options for F and J?

I’d personally prefer scoops, if that’s an option that you are willing to consider still (that is if I’m correct in my assumption that there are none as it stands).
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #193 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:38:10 »
Quote from: dallman5 on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:35:16
Quote from: biip on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:31:14
Quote from: wellbeing44 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:29:39
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.

Looking at the render I can’t quite tell, but are there just bars and no homing options for F and J?

I’d personally prefer scoops, if that’s an option that you are willing to consider still (that is if I’m correct in my assumption that there are none as it stands).

EPBT barred homings aren't scooped.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #194 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:41:59 »
Quote from: biip on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:38:10
Quote from: dallman5 on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:35:16
Quote from: biip on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:31:14
Quote from: wellbeing44 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:29:39
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.

Looking at the render I can’t quite tell, but are there just bars and no homing options for F and J?

I’d personally prefer scoops, if that’s an option that you are willing to consider still (that is if I’m correct in my assumption that there are none as it stands).

EPBT barred homings aren't scooped.


The homing keys of the ePBT caps that I have feature both bar and scoop on the same cap.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #195 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:43:05 »
Quote from: biip on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:20:22
Intl kit updated

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Awesome.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #196 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:44:52 »
Quote from: biip on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:38:10
Quote from: dallman5 on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:35:16
Quote from: biip on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:31:14
Quote from: wellbeing44 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:29:39
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.

Looking at the render I can’t quite tell, but are there just bars and no homing options for F and J?

I’d personally prefer scoops, if that’s an option that you are willing to consider still (that is if I’m correct in my assumption that there are none as it stands).

EPBT barred homings aren't scooped.

I understand that, yes. Maybe I worded that poorly, I’m talking about having an option for only scoops and only bars like the conventional GMK set options. Right now EPBT normally does the combination barred and scooped keys, but you said that they can do barred without scoops. I’m wondering if they can also do just scoops with no bars, and if so can that be added to the base kit?
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #197 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 13:14:51 »
Quote from: biip on Mon, 25 March 2019, 08:29:14
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.

That's too bad. As far as I'm aware there are no other cherry profile PBT sets with the correct row 1.5u keys for an ergodox set.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #198 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 14:27:16 »
Barred and scooped homing keys are the best ever typing reference. They feel awesome, please do not change them. By all means you can add any other options.
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Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
« Reply #199 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 14:58:08 »
Quote from: ideus on Mon, 25 March 2019, 14:27:16
Barred and scooped homing keys are the best ever typing reference. They feel awesome, please do not change them. By all means you can add any other options.
ePBT scooped keys hit switch housings tho. Dunno how awesome would that feel...
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