Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 16:47:20
Background:
POS Malaysia required that the box yuktsi used be wrapped before all the shipping labels could be placed on it.
Here is the packaging before the wrapper.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZsbHsXS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HICZZTe.jpg)
According to customs the box weighed 4.8kg when it arrived at LAX so I'm sure the box arrived in the US fine. USPS state side tracking shows that after it left LAX it went by ground to Chicago. This annoys me a bit, when you pay for international priority your items should be flown not trailered to your destination.
Anyways, at some point between LA and Chicago the wrapper I talked about earlier fell off so the box became unidentifiable. After this occurred USPS simply crumpled up the wrapper, placed it in a "Sorry we messed up" bag and delivered the wrapper to me.
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Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 16:47:31
8/3: Today I received a letter from the mail recovery center saying they have my claim and will begin searching for it until the "retention period" is over.
Past Updates
7/27: Insurance paperwork started in case it can't be found
7/28: Mail recovery filed with USPS
7/29: Waiting to hear back from the USPS rep about the mail recovery center. I've filled out the forms and sent in pictures of the box before it was wrapped. Yuktsi taking pictures of every step is really helping.
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 July 2015, 16:49:45
Edit: looks like you already did this. I think it's your only hope.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 16:53:02
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 29 July 2015, 16:58:26
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 29 July 2015, 17:02:52
Post by: rsadek on Wed, 29 July 2015, 17:05:08
That is so sad. I feel for you!
Good luck, I hope they are able to recover it.
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 29 July 2015, 17:07:03
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 29 July 2015, 17:09:12
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Wed, 29 July 2015, 17:18:38
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 17:28:51
For future reference, that box is WAY too big for a keyboard that size. There's no reason for it, and the size of the box is most likely the reason it failed to maintain the small item within. The packaging surrounding it fails to serve it's purpose as it has too much room to move, and provides too much cushion, which, as counter-intuitive as it sounds, is a bad thing.
A smaller box, that is made of sturdy cardboard, with foam surrounding the keyboard would have been much more sufficient packaging, and likely would have saved on shipping.
Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind if/when I ever ship a metal board.
Good luck man. Out of all the packages to be lost or messed up, It just had to be a 456... :mad:
I know! It's the only real mail issue I've ever had and it just had to be the expensive board.
Post by: Sent on Wed, 29 July 2015, 17:36:56
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 29 July 2015, 18:07:51
Edit: Was the wrap clean off and the box empty when you got it? What did it look like? I've only seen that little snapchat of it.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 18:24:03
What the **** man. I seriously can't believe that it's been stolen. Because, let's face it, it can't be damaged that badly by accident, especially being the size it is.
Edit: Was the wrap clean off and the box empty when you got it? What did it look like? I've only seen that little snapchat of it.
The bag has been through hell, it's torn to shreds in some places and USPS delivered it crumpled up in the "Sorry for the damage" bag. I never received the box. It appears to have fallen out of the wrapper.
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 29 July 2015, 18:34:31
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 18:41:24
I will find it...!
Please do! :))
Best of luck to ya.
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 29 July 2015, 18:56:21
The wrapping FELL OFF the box. So rather than try to repair the wrapping when it started to break, and therefore save your board, they decided to leave it and let it fall off, leaving an unidentifiable brown box floating around somewhere between the Western Seaboard and the windy city.
Incredible.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 19:12:08
Wait, wait, wait...
The wrapping FELL OFF the box. So rather than try to repair the wrapping when it started to break, and therefore save your board, they decided to leave it and let it fall off, leaving an unidentifiable brown box floating around somewhere between the Western Seaboard and the windy city.
Incredible.
Yep, I'm hoping the Korea Express tape that yuktsi covered the box in will help identify it.
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 29 July 2015, 20:36:18
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:17:18
Post by: digi on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:25:19
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:29:00
It's almost like the shady postal worker saw how carefully packaged it was and thought it had to be worth something even though they have no idea about korean kb's...really sucks man, I hope it shows up.
The packing label on the box showed that it was insured for $1000 so that's possible. It'd be the ****tiest of ****ty things to do but some people just don't care.
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:31:18
Post by: digi on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:34:32
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:35:45
lol, we sincerely hope we did not inconvenience you by completely losing your $1000 package.
The "Sorry" bag doesn't even have a phone number or email on it. It has no information regarding fixing the mistake or finding the package. They really need to redo the bag.
Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 29 July 2015, 22:11:43
Good luck finding it.
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 29 July 2015, 22:51:44
Forgive my ignorance, but what is a 456? Korean custom?Yep! A board made by OTD. Comes in black and pink
Good luck finding it.
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 29 July 2015, 23:21:05
Post by: YongJK on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:23:34
Forgive my ignorance, but what is a 456? Korean custom?(http://i.imgur.com/mlf9rEQ.jpg)
Good luck finding it.
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:25:51
For future reference, that box is WAY too big for a keyboard that size. There's no reason for it, and the size of the box is most likely the reason it failed to maintain the small item within. The packaging surrounding it fails to serve it's purpose as it has too much room to move, and provides too much cushion, which, as counter-intuitive as it sounds, is a bad thing.No. The box is completely packed with PE foam to ensure there's now way for such an expensive board to be damaged in the shipping. There's no room for moving at all.
A smaller box, that is made of sturdy cardboard, with foam surrounding the keyboard would have been much more sufficient packaging, and likely would have saved on shipping.
I am truly sorry to hear this. The board was very well packed. I have filed a complaint Pos Malaysia, hope that you can find it back.
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:28:00
Forgive my ignorance, but what is a 456? Korean custom?
Good luck finding it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mlf9rEQ.jpg)
I'm still too cheap for that Mio cap but I want it so bad
Post by: ImpendingxDoom on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:29:21
Post by: YongJK on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:33:09
Shoot me a pm.Forgive my ignorance, but what is a 456? Korean custom?
Good luck finding it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mlf9rEQ.jpg)
I'm still too cheap for that Mio cap but I want it so bad
Post by: njbair on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:35:31
I have to agree that the box seems excessive, but maybe yuktsi knows something we don't about standard package sizes and international shipping. Maybe a smaller "irregular" package would actually cost more because it's not stackable. And I'm sure the rest of the box wasn't just empty space, I'm sure he filled it with packing material.
I wonder how easy/hard it would be to steal someone's package. I mean, the thought must come up often for postal workers. I'm sure there's a ton of accountability to prevent theft. So I'm sure the box is around somewhere in a storage spot for unclaimed/unmarked packages.
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:51:37
Wow, just saw this thread. Crazy!!!I had bad with experience with receiving board with dents on it due to the poor packaging. The feeling is just bad.
I have to agree that the box seems excessive, but maybe yuktsi knows something we don't about standard package sizes and international shipping. Maybe a smaller "irregular" package would actually cost more because it's not stackable. And I'm sure the rest of the box wasn't just empty space, I'm sure he filled it with packing material.
I wonder how easy/hard it would be to steal someone's package. I mean, the thought must come up often for postal workers. I'm sure there's a ton of accountability to prevent theft. So I'm sure the box is around somewhere in a storage spot for unclaimed/unmarked packages.
That's why I rather go with the excessive packaging rather than taking the risk of damaging it or to save shipping cost.
Remember this?
(http://i.imgur.com/FTJvaYw.jpg)
Post by: justnits on Fri, 31 July 2015, 01:04:01
I had bad with experience with receiving board with dents on it due to the poor packaging. The feeling is just bad.
That's why I rather go with the excessive packaging rather than taking the risk of damaging it or to save shipping cost.
Remember this?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FTJvaYw.jpg)
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
omigosh! i thought it was some fancy photographing shot with fish eye lens until i finally understood the picture :confused: :eek: :'(
Post by: YongJK on Fri, 31 July 2015, 06:21:45
even lz board failed to pass the #bendgateI had bad with experience with receiving board with dents on it due to the poor packaging. The feeling is just bad.
That's why I rather go with the excessive packaging rather than taking the risk of damaging it or to save shipping cost.
Remember this?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FTJvaYw.jpg)
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
omigosh! i thought it was some fancy photographing shot with fish eye lens until i finally understood the picture :confused: :eek: :'(
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 31 July 2015, 07:15:43
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 July 2015, 07:20:50
even lz board failed to pass the #bendgateI had bad with experience with receiving board with dents on it due to the poor packaging. The feeling is just bad.
That's why I rather go with the excessive packaging rather than taking the risk of damaging it or to save shipping cost.
Remember this?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FTJvaYw.jpg)
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
omigosh! i thought it was some fancy photographing shot with fish eye lens until i finally understood the picture :confused: :eek: :'(
China Post wanted to let us know that they're the best machine shop around.
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 31 July 2015, 07:31:26
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 31 July 2015, 07:35:06
I mail my paychecks from my jobs up to my bank at school as they don't have mobile deposit. I had over $2000 in two envelopes properly labeled and all sent out. Took over 3 weeks and then they magically showed up together at the bank when we finally escalated the investigation. Such BS.
I really hope this turns out well for you Joey. Contact your post master and start a **** storm. The best way to get something done is to do just that.
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 31 July 2015, 07:49:59
I mail my paychecks from my jobs up to my bank at school as they don't have mobile deposit. I had over $2000 in two envelopes properly labeled and all sent out. Took over 3 weeks and then they magically showed up together at the bank when we finally escalated the investigation. Such BS.Checks.... (https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/360/1.0)
Post by: Lurch on Fri, 31 July 2015, 07:52:33
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 31 July 2015, 07:58:54
Post by: demik on Fri, 31 July 2015, 11:32:35
I honestly don't think you should have sent usps those packaging pictures. That's terribly packed and usps is anal about what they considered properly packed.
Post by: Spopepro on Fri, 31 July 2015, 12:02:04
Hanlon's razor folks. Even the most rare and fancy keyboard is pennies compared to what USPS moves every day. Further, there are super stiff penalties, and the postal inspection service is equipped like, and more competent than, the FBI. No foul play here, just incompetence.
Hopefully eventually your 456 makes it home.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 31 July 2015, 12:30:24
That's an unnecessarily big box. I'm with moose on that. Smaller + foam = less troubleWell it's too late now. Do you know if that would impact them paying the insurance if they can't find it?
I honestly don't think you should have sent usps those packaging pictures. That's terribly packed and usps is anal about what they considered properly packed.
Post by: demik on Fri, 31 July 2015, 13:11:37
That's an unnecessarily big box. I'm with moose on that. Smaller + foam = less troubleWell it's too late now. Do you know if that would impact them paying the insurance if they can't find it?
I honestly don't think you should have sent usps those packaging pictures. That's terribly packed and usps is anal about what they considered properly packed.
Well it was lost. Can't really blame poor packaging for a lost item. Unless USPS is dead set on not wanting to pay 1k (which is another issue) and blames the flimsy box for it being lost.
Good luck bro. I've argued over $300 and USPS basically told me to go **** myself.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 31 July 2015, 13:16:06
I'll start a flaming **** storm if they tell me to **** off. I'm either getting the board or my money and I'm not afraid to yell at people and pull out all the stops.That's an unnecessarily big box. I'm with moose on that. Smaller + foam = less troubleWell it's too late now. Do you know if that would impact them paying the insurance if they can't find it?
I honestly don't think you should have sent usps those packaging pictures. That's terribly packed and usps is anal about what they considered properly packed.
Well it was lost. Can't really blame poor packaging for a lost item. Unless USPS is dead set on not wanting to pay 1k (which is another issue) and blames the flimsy box for it being lost.
Good luck bro. I've argued over 300 and USPS basically told me to go **** myself.
Post by: Shaussman on Fri, 31 July 2015, 13:40:30
That's an unnecessarily big box. I'm with moose on that. Smaller + foam = less trouble
It should be perfectly fine as long as the foam isn't super soft. Sure, it's a bit big, but that shouldn't be an issue.
Post by: demik on Fri, 31 July 2015, 13:52:44
No, it's too big. There is way too many gaps between the foam because of it. Something smaller and tightly packed with fitting foam would have been 100x better.That's an unnecessarily big box. I'm with moose on that. Smaller + foam = less trouble
It should be perfectly fine as long as the foam isn't super soft. Sure, it's a bit big, but that shouldn't be an issue.
And let's not even bring up the fact that box is in horrible shape. It's not a new box, so it has already lost its strength. Hell in the last picture it's not even square anymore. Again, this SHOULDNT matter if it's lost. But companies will find any excuse to not pay.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:49:59
I'll lift up some prayers that your lost board finds its way home to you.
Post by: eddie on Sat, 01 August 2015, 02:34:10
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 02:37:55
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 01 August 2015, 03:32:33
I'm with demik here. The box is way too big. In fact it must have cost more to ship because of volumetric weight as well.No, it's too big. There is way too many gaps between the foam because of it. Something smaller and tightly packed with fitting foam would have been 100x better.That's an unnecessarily big box. I'm with moose on that. Smaller + foam = less trouble
It should be perfectly fine as long as the foam isn't super soft. Sure, it's a bit big, but that shouldn't be an issue.
And let's not even bring up the fact that box is in horrible shape. It's not a new box, so it has already lost its strength. Hell in the last picture it's not even square anymore. Again, this SHOULDNT matter if it's lost. But companies will find any excuse to not pay.
The reason it was flown to LAX is because we have direct flight from Malaysia to LAX non-stop. I'm not surprised that it wasn't flown from LAX to Chicago as I've seen this pattern before in previous shipping so I'm guessing it's a normal practice.
Sorry that this happened. Wishing you the best of luck Joey!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 03 August 2015, 16:57:31
Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 03 August 2015, 16:59:44
Anyone know what the retention period for the USPS mail recovery center is? They say they have my claim and will begin searching for it.
More
Either one year or 180 days, not sure which.
"Under current procedures, information about undeliverable accountable mail items (Insured Mail, Registered Mail, and COD mail) is logged into a national claims database and the accountable article is held for 1 year from the date of receipt, the maximum time limit allowed for filing a claim from the mailing date. The Postal Service proposes that retention periods for accountable mail be shortened to 180 days from the date of receipt to match the new proposed maximum time limit allowed for filing a claim. This also would relieve capacity constraints on MRCs."
Source: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2002-12-06/html/02-30935.htm
"Under current procedures, information about undeliverable accountable mail items (Insured Mail, Registered Mail, and COD mail) is logged into a national claims database and the accountable article is held for 1 year from the date of receipt, the maximum time limit allowed for filing a claim from the mailing date. The Postal Service proposes that retention periods for accountable mail be shortened to 180 days from the date of receipt to match the new proposed maximum time limit allowed for filing a claim. This also would relieve capacity constraints on MRCs."
Source: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2002-12-06/html/02-30935.htm
Edit: Although I'm not sure if the recovery center is included in "accountable mail items" ? Will keep looking.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 03 August 2015, 17:27:50
Anyone know what the retention period for the USPS mail recovery center is? They say they have my claim and will begin searching for it.MoreEither one year or 180 days, not sure which.
"Under current procedures, information about undeliverable accountable mail items (Insured Mail, Registered Mail, and COD mail) is logged into a national claims database and the accountable article is held for 1 year from the date of receipt, the maximum time limit allowed for filing a claim from the mailing date. The Postal Service proposes that retention periods for accountable mail be shortened to 180 days from the date of receipt to match the new proposed maximum time limit allowed for filing a claim. This also would relieve capacity constraints on MRCs."
Source: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2002-12-06/html/02-30935.htm
Edit: Although I'm not sure if the recovery center is included in "accountable mail items" ? Will keep looking.
Thanks Last! At this point any info is helpful. According to USPS they'll keep me updated as they continue to search.
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:08:31
Post by: trizkut on Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:10:31
Still nothing?
You're overestimating their competence :))
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:12:21
I mean, this is a government service after all ;D ;D ;D ;D :)) :)) :)) :))Still nothing?
You're overestimating their competence :))
Post by: njbair on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:16:58
I mean, this is a government service after all ;D ;D ;D ;D :)) :)) :)) :))Still nothing?
You're overestimating their competence :))
Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone else ever thought about the relevance of the post office as a gov't entity? I mean, nowadays there are better, cheaper ways to do almost everything the USPS does. I understand in the old days the gov't had to guarantee cross-country communication, but there's no need for that any more. And now we're left with yet another unnecessary--and unprofitable--gov't service.
Post by: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:23:11
I mean, this is a government service after all ;D ;D ;D ;D :)) :)) :)) :))Still nothing?
You're overestimating their competence :))
Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone else ever thought about the relevance of the post office as a gov't entity? I mean, nowadays there are better, cheaper ways to do almost everything the USPS does. I understand in the old days the gov't had to guarantee cross-country communication, but there's no need for that any more. And now we're left with yet another unnecessary--and unprofitable--gov't service.
i love usps because they deliver packages on sundays
Post by: njbair on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:24:11
I mean, this is a government service after all ;D ;D ;D ;D :)) :)) :)) :))Still nothing?
You're overestimating their competence :))
Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone else ever thought about the relevance of the post office as a gov't entity? I mean, nowadays there are better, cheaper ways to do almost everything the USPS does. I understand in the old days the gov't had to guarantee cross-country communication, but there's no need for that any more. And now we're left with yet another unnecessary--and unprofitable--gov't service.
i love usps because they deliver packages on sundays
I hate Sunday delivery. Worst idea ever.
Post by: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:29:02
why? great for usI mean, this is a government service after all ;D ;D ;D ;D :)) :)) :)) :))Still nothing?
You're overestimating their competence :))
Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone else ever thought about the relevance of the post office as a gov't entity? I mean, nowadays there are better, cheaper ways to do almost everything the USPS does. I understand in the old days the gov't had to guarantee cross-country communication, but there's no need for that any more. And now we're left with yet another unnecessary--and unprofitable--gov't service.
i love usps because they deliver packages on sundays
I hate Sunday delivery. Worst idea ever.
Post by: njbair on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:35:43
why? great for usI mean, this is a government service after all ;D ;D ;D ;D :)) :)) :)) :))Still nothing?
You're overestimating their competence :))
Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone else ever thought about the relevance of the post office as a gov't entity? I mean, nowadays there are better, cheaper ways to do almost everything the USPS does. I understand in the old days the gov't had to guarantee cross-country communication, but there's no need for that any more. And now we're left with yet another unnecessary--and unprofitable--gov't service.
i love usps because they deliver packages on sundays
I hate Sunday delivery. Worst idea ever.
I didn't intend to hijack the thread, but basically Sunday delivery wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't backed by an absolutely half-hearted effort. It's different carriers than weekdays (probably due to union contracts), so they don't know about or respect standing arrangements with the regular carrier. For example, my workplace has offices next door. All mail for both addresses gets delivered to that building.
But not on Sundays.
On Sundays, since there's no longer a mailbox at the main building, the carrier just leaves stuff laying there in the lobby. We've called and asked repeatedly for them to cease Sunday delivery but so far no change. We've asked the carrier to bring it all next door regardless of the address. He ignores us. It's just annoying.
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:42:13
I mean, this is a government service after all ;D ;D ;D ;D :)) :)) :)) :))Still nothing?
You're overestimating their competence :))
Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone else ever thought about the relevance of the post office as a gov't entity? I mean, nowadays there are better, cheaper ways to do almost everything the USPS does. I understand in the old days the gov't had to guarantee cross-country communication, but there's no need for that any more. And now we're left with yet another unnecessary--and unprofitable--gov't service.
When you see it from national security pov, it's always better if the govt takes care of the postage
There's a show in Australia showing all these, and it's amazing how people would go further to trafficked drugs, exotic animals, etc
anyway, update us Joey
Post by: Shaussman on Tue, 04 August 2015, 23:18:02
unprofitable--gov't service.
To be fair, the USPS is funding pensions for the next what, 70 years? It's insane. Before that started they were all right financially.
Although, another advantage of the USPS is that your mail is protected with them; they're not allowed to open it. Not so much with mail from other carriers.
Post by: njbair on Tue, 04 August 2015, 23:21:08
unprofitable--gov't service.To be fair, the USPS is funding pensions for the next what, 70 years? It's insane. Before that started they were all right financially.
But that's like saying I'm doing alright financially right now because I'm just charging everything to my credit cards. I'd actually be overextending myself but I just don't have any consequences yet.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 05 August 2015, 07:59:51
Post by: njbair on Wed, 05 August 2015, 10:43:52
While we're on the subject of weird annoying USPS crap. They will only send me information via first class mail. Which means it takes longer and isn't even guaranteed to reach me. I have the email of the guy who helped me get this far but even contacting him to get info takes a few days.
Leave it to USPS to call the worst one first class.
Post by: Shaussman on Wed, 05 August 2015, 17:17:24
But that's like saying I'm doing alright financially right now because I'm just charging everything to my credit cards. I'd actually be overextending myself but I just don't have any consequences yet.
Not in the slightest. Under a more normal plan it's fine, but they're forced- by law- to spend the money that way.
Post by: saturnotaku on Wed, 05 August 2015, 18:38:44
Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone else ever thought about the relevance of the post office as a gov't entity? I mean, nowadays there are better, cheaper ways to do almost everything the USPS does. I understand in the old days the gov't had to guarantee cross-country communication, but there's no need for that any more. And now we're left with yet another unnecessary--and unprofitable--gov't service.
At the very least they should drop Saturday service except for express packages. Personally I'd be fine if they reduced normal delivery days to Monday, Wednesday and Friday. At the same time they can sell off assets related to their door-to-door logistics (aka the "last mile") to FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc.
Post by: fknraiden on Wed, 05 August 2015, 18:51:59
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:15:09
That would be great but politicians are incapable of doing math related to saving money and anyone who tries to do it for them is either called crazy or wrong.Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone else ever thought about the relevance of the post office as a gov't entity? I mean, nowadays there are better, cheaper ways to do almost everything the USPS does. I understand in the old days the gov't had to guarantee cross-country communication, but there's no need for that any more. And now we're left with yet another unnecessary--and unprofitable--gov't service.
At the very least they should drop Saturday service except for express packages. Personally I'd be fine if they reduced normal delivery days to Monday, Wednesday and Friday. At the same time they can sell off assets related to their door-to-door logistics (aka the "last mile") to FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc.
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:27:08
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Happy day.
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:31:17
Guess where's the keyboard now? Haha.
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Happy day.
BAM
Happy ending boys, pack it up
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:35:36
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:36:44
:-*
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:39:19
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:39:23
Guess where's the keyboard now? Haha.What?
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Happy day.
Returned to sender?!
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:41:26
Guess where's the keyboard now? Haha.What?
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Happy day.
Returned to sender?!
Malay post, not too shabby hey?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:43:41
Guess where's the keyboard now? Haha.
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Happy day.
Say, that's a nice board!
I'll give you $5 for it, right here right now. Plus $100 for DHL shipping
Post by: clacktalk on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:44:33
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 07 August 2015, 02:46:12
round 2 FIGHT!
FTFY
Post by: joey on Fri, 07 August 2015, 04:05:33
Post by: eddie on Fri, 07 August 2015, 04:11:01
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 07 August 2015, 04:17:40
reading the thread hurt my soul
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 07 August 2015, 05:11:36
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 05:26:15
Glad to see it's not in some dirty hands.
With all that bad TA news, I'm glad to hear this :)
Post by: Sent on Fri, 07 August 2015, 05:29:54
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 07 August 2015, 05:34:30
Make sure to put the recipient's name on the box itself this time ;)
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 07 August 2015, 05:35:20
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 07 August 2015, 05:45:59
Please pack in a tight and fit box in Round 2!I have bought and packed a lot of Korean boards. Nothing is wrong with the oackaging.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 06:00:33
Wow...this is so great to hear !!Please pack in a tight and fit box in Round 2!I have bought and packed a lot of Korean boards. Nothing is wrong with the oackaging.
Joey you can let out the deep breath you have been holding in for over a week :thumb:
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 07 August 2015, 06:03:53
Please pack in a tight and fit box in Round 2!I have bought and packed a lot of Korean boards. Nothing is wrong with the oackaging.
The box is fine. It's the wrap that is bull****. If you put the address on the cardboard itself, it will get there even if the wrap gets cut off.
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 07 August 2015, 06:11:19
Yeah. Still, the box has to be wrapped. I will do something about it. It's the address on the box that saved the board.Please pack in a tight and fit box in Round 2!I have bought and packed a lot of Korean boards. Nothing is wrong with the oackaging.
The box is fine. It's the wrap that is bull****. If you put the address on the cardboard itself, it will get there even if the wrap gets cut off.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 06:26:47
Guess where's the keyboard now? Haha.Really really great way to wake up on a friday! :))
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Happy day.
Post by: calmfries on Fri, 07 August 2015, 06:40:50
I think the blaming game should stop already, everyone at this moment should be aware how important packaging is for expensive keyboard. The wrap is required by the post office, so Yuktsi did what he had to, wrap it again and again. If all that are still not enough, that's all about the luck I guess. It's not always that easy to get new boxes around, so be a little more considerate while bashing about the bad packaging. It's not the first time he ship expensive boards out. Just my 2cent.Please pack in a tight and fit box in Round 2!I have bought and packed a lot of Korean boards. Nothing is wrong with the oackaging.
The box is fine. It's the wrap that is bull****. If you put the address on the cardboard itself, it will get there even if the wrap gets cut off.
Edit: Glad to hear the board is finally found
Post by: joey on Fri, 07 August 2015, 07:15:04
Yeah, I've been hoping it'd turn up! :PWow...this is so great to hear !!Please pack in a tight and fit box in Round 2!I have bought and packed a lot of Korean boards. Nothing is wrong with the oackaging.
Joey you can let out the deep breath you have been holding in for over a week :thumb:
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 August 2015, 07:19:41
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 07 August 2015, 07:25:32
Good to hear!
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 07 August 2015, 07:37:31
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 07:47:11
So, does all this prove there's no point in getting insurance? Seems like usps wasn't ever going to pay.I mean, they we're more helpful after I said it was insured. But yeah the payout would've been a rough process.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:05:24
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:10:45
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:14:19
I recommend buying a flight to Malaysia to personally pick up and hand carry the board back to your home. If you happen to leave the board in the bathroom or on the plane, that's on you. No more USPS **** ups.
brb buying flight to Cinci so I can slap you for this post.
:-*
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:19:30
But how much fun would a GH field trip be!I recommend buying a flight to Malaysia to personally pick up and hand carry the board back to your home. If you happen to leave the board in the bathroom or on the plane, that's on you. No more USPS **** ups.
brb buying flight to Cinci so I can slap you for this post.
:-*
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:24:03
I recommend buying a flight to Malaysia to personally pick up and hand carry the board back to your home. If you happen to leave the board in the bathroom or on the plane, that's on you. No more USPS **** ups.
brb buying flight to Cinci so I can slap you for this post.
:-*
I'm coming, just to see you slap him
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:24:34
I'm coming, just to see you slap himI recommend buying a flight to Malaysia to personally pick up and hand carry the board back to your home. If you happen to leave the board in the bathroom or on the plane, that's on you. No more USPS **** ups.
brb buying flight to Cinci so I can slap you for this post.
:-*
Don't tempt me with a good time Hoff.
Post by: njbair on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:27:52
But how much fun would a GH field trip be!I recommend buying a flight to Malaysia to personally pick up and hand carry the board back to your home. If you happen to leave the board in the bathroom or on the plane, that's on you. No more USPS **** ups.
brb buying flight to Cinci so I can slap you for this post.
:-*
Picture a dozen nerds lining up for the jetway, each holding a keyboard under their arm like a folded up newspaper. Textbook terrorism profile.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:28:51
But how much fun would a GH field trip be!I recommend buying a flight to Malaysia to personally pick up and hand carry the board back to your home. If you happen to leave the board in the bathroom or on the plane, that's on you. No more USPS **** ups.
brb buying flight to Cinci so I can slap you for this post.
:-*
Picture a dozen nerds lining up for the jetway, each holding a keyboard under their arm like a folded up newspaper. Textbook terrorism profile.
Sounds like you've been to a Keycon
Post by: njbair on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:30:36
But how much fun would a GH field trip be!I recommend buying a flight to Malaysia to personally pick up and hand carry the board back to your home. If you happen to leave the board in the bathroom or on the plane, that's on you. No more USPS **** ups.
brb buying flight to Cinci so I can slap you for this post.
:-*
Picture a dozen nerds lining up for the jetway, each holding a keyboard under their arm like a folded up newspaper. Textbook terrorism profile.
Sounds like you've been to a Keycon
Not yet, just seen pics.
Post by: demik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:30:58
the box and packaging is ****.Please pack in a tight and fit box in Round 2!I have bought and packed a lot of Korean boards. Nothing is wrong with the oackaging.
The box is fine. It's the wrap that is bull****. If you put the address on the cardboard itself, it will get there even if the wrap gets cut off.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:32:49
Can we stop this.the box and packaging is ****.Please pack in a tight and fit box in Round 2!I have bought and packed a lot of Korean boards. Nothing is wrong with the oackaging.
The box is fine. It's the wrap that is bull****. If you put the address on the cardboard itself, it will get there even if the wrap gets cut off.
The wrap was required and our addresses were on the box itself, that's why it was found. The board is still safe. End of story.
Post by: demik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:37:47
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:42:20
Go to mailbox.etc - they are everywhere in malls in KL. You can buy postage friendly boxes of all shapes from them. Some of them can fit a keyboard just nice and you DON'T NEED to wrap them when sending. I have sent many packages and 2 keyboards international before, so I am not sure which post office you went to that insisted on wrapping. I am not even using Pos Laju or any of those EMS services. Just your good old post office and never once they have asked me to wrap. Specifically I use post office in One Utama and the one in Damansara Jaya. If you are anywhere near this area, go to these post offices.
This is a truly harrowing experience and hopefull my 2 sen is of any help.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:47:53
But how much fun would a GH field trip be!I recommend buying a flight to Malaysia to personally pick up and hand carry the board back to your home. If you happen to leave the board in the bathroom or on the plane, that's on you. No more USPS **** ups.
brb buying flight to Cinci so I can slap you for this post.
:-*
Picture a dozen nerds lining up for the jetway, each holding a keyboard under their arm like a folded up newspaper. Textbook terrorism profile.
Sounds like you've been to a Keycon
Only time I've been questioned at the airport was when they couldn't figure out what 7 keyboards were doing in my backpack.
I'm coming, just to see you slap him
Don't tempt me with a good time Hoff.
But it's all I know. :-[
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:49:01
No. I don't want people thinking this is acceptable packaging on a high dollar item. Now if you want me to not say anything in your thread, that's a diff story. I'll leave it alone here.I agree as far as large box goes. It is insanely expensive as well. I didn't know about volumetric weight as far as DHL goes and the bill was 400$. Now, other shipping agencies won't be as expensive, but also if packaged properly you don't need that large of a box. I could have gotten away with a much smaller box. Soft cell foam really helps with making the box to a smaller size, as it helps absorb any thing that might hit it. As far as expensive boards go, this is my protocol: wrap board in something so it doesn't scratch. Then a layer or two of bubblewrap. then soft cell foam around it. Then I fill the space w/ a mix of soft cell foam and bubblewrap on the sides, and then if the top is still low, you use those air bags. It costs more as far as shipping supplies go, but the buyer would be more happy paying 5-10 for shipping supplies so it arrives safely.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:49:40
But how much fun would a GH field trip be!I recommend buying a flight to Malaysia to personally pick up and hand carry the board back to your home. If you happen to leave the board in the bathroom or on the plane, that's on you. No more USPS **** ups.
brb buying flight to Cinci so I can slap you for this post.
:-*
Picture a dozen nerds lining up for the jetway, each holding a keyboard under their arm like a folded up newspaper. Textbook terrorism profile.
Sounds like you've been to a Keycon
Only time I've been questioned at the airport was when they couldn't figure out what 7 keyboards were doing in my backpack.
:)) Just Hoff problems
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:52:47
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:53:22
I think the blaming game should stop already, everyone at this moment should be aware how important packaging is for expensive keyboard. The wrap is required by the post office, so Yuktsi did what he had to, wrap it again and again. If all that are still not enough, that's all about the luck I guess. It's not always that easy to get new boxes around, so be a little more considerate while bashing about the bad packaging. It's not the first time he ship expensive boards out. Just my 2cent.
Edit: Glad to hear the board is finally found
I'm not blaming Yuktsi at all. I think the wrap is a ****ty requirement. Because if it gets damaged then you've got nothing to go off. It something that will get easily damaged and will come off if the hole is big enough.
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:57:32
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:59:57
I was told that the brass plate was detached and the screws went missing. Damn.
You want o unassemble it anyway to send it, and please read packaging advice in this thread.
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 07 August 2015, 09:02:48
Because. There is no way nobody notices large enough damage on the wrap for it to fall off a box of that size. There is no way the brass plaque "falls off" the board and the bolts get lost.
USPS opened the box because of two different metals look strange on their xrays. They unbolt the brass plaque to see if there is anything hidden under there. There isn't, but they lose the bolts, the wrap somehow manages to find it's way back into the system, and the box gets returned to sender because that was the only address they could see on it.
Leave the plaque unbolted I would say. Put the bolts in a baggie. Wrap them all separately. Addresses on box. Addresses on wrap. Job done.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 09:39:43
I think USPS opened the box.Sounds about right to me, kinda ****ty they wouldn't rewrap it but I'm not surprised. I'm not worried about the screws, finding new metric flat heads will be easy. Just relieved that the board has been found undamaged and is back on it's way to me.
Because. There is no way nobody notices large enough damage on the wrap for it to fall off a box of that size. There is no way the brass plaque "falls off" the board and the bolts get lost.
USPS opened the box because of two different metals look strange on their xrays. They unbolt the brass plaque to see if there is anything hidden under there. There isn't, but they lose the bolts, the wrap somehow manages to find it's way back into the system, and the box gets returned to sender because that was the only address they could see on it.
Leave the plaque unbolted I would say. Put the bolts in a baggie. Wrap them all separately. Addresses on box. Addresses on wrap. Job done.
Post by: iAmAhab on Fri, 07 August 2015, 10:32:07
Post by: kin25 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 11:52:18
I received a gift from my friend.
I was surprised at his big gift. :D
Thanks Yuksi!
I will use this keyboard for all my lifetime.
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Post by: meiosis on Fri, 07 August 2015, 11:59:59
Today..
I received a gift from my friend.
I was surprised at his big gift. :D
Thanks Yuksi!
I will use this keyboard for all my lifetime.
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(http://i.imgur.com/uUkn5ZL.jpg?1)
Yuktsi didn't even assemble mine :(
USPS desoldered it, nvm..
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:01:01
wtf he sent me a pink koala (http://puu.sh/jsoDP/1466c3bd7e.jpg)Today..
I received a gift from my friend.
I was surprised at his big gift. :D
Thanks Yuksi!
I will use this keyboard for all my lifetime.
(Attachment Link)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uUkn5ZL.jpg?1)
Yuktsi didn't even assemble mine :(
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:12:21
Today..After seeing how you shipped the TX1800 boards I'm confident this will be shipped safely. Does the board still have both brass plates? I only see one pictured.
I received a gift from my friend.
I was surprised at his big gift. :D
Thanks Yuksi!
I will use this keyboard for all my lifetime.
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Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:14:50
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:17:09
Today..After seeing how you shipped the TX1800 boards I'm confident this will be shipped safely. Does the board still have both brass plates? I only see one pictured.
I received a gift from my friend.
I was surprised at his big gift. :D
Thanks Yuksi!
I will use this keyboard for all my lifetime.
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Remaining Gateron numpad caps as the other weight obviously.
Edit: At first, I thought Kin was just trolling, but now I'm confused why he's got it now. ???
Post by: kin25 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:18:04
I think USPS opened the box.
Because. There is no way nobody notices large enough damage on the wrap for it to fall off a box of that size. There is no way the brass plaque "falls off" the board and the bolts get lost.
USPS opened the box because of two different metals look strange on their xrays. They unbolt the brass plaque to see if there is anything hidden under there. There isn't, but they lose the bolts, the wrap somehow manages to find it's way back into the system, and the box gets returned to sender because that was the only address they could see on it.
Leave the plaque unbolted I would say. Put the bolts in a baggie. Wrap them all separately. Addresses on box. Addresses on wrap. Job done.
Right. I think so.
They might think the brass was gold bar.
Anyways... I found the bolts in the box.
Fortunately.. There are no damages and scratches.
Honestly.. I don"t like 456.
So.. I will send it to someone in US.
Sorry yuksi..
Send to me again... another keyboard (not 456)
Post by: kin25 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:22:48
Post by: kin25 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:29:39
:-X
I found two damaged edges
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:31:14
(Attachment Link)**** me... :blank:
:-X
I found one damages edge.
Where? Can you get a close up? If its on the bottom I'm fine but if it's on the top USPS will pay for it.
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:43:56
(Attachment Link)**** me... :blank:
:-X
I found one damages edge.
Where? Can you get a close up? If its on the bottom I'm fine but if it's on the top USPS will pay for it.
Bottom, check near the bar, on the left edge, barely noticeable
Post by: kin25 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:50:01
3 points damaged.
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Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:54:27
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:56:01
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 12:58:55
Sorry for bad news.
3 points damaged.
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Great.
All I wanted was an undamaged ****ing keyboard. How hard is that to find. Now this thread turns into watching USPS jerk me around for months trying to avoid paying for the damage they've done. I'll probably just sell the board now.
Post by: demik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:02:06
Post by: ImpendingxDoom on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:02:50
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:07:46
Told you soI doubt it happened while the board was in transit, I bet the damage occurred when the customs workers just tossed it all back in the box because "it's not ours so why should we care". I'm really not in the mood for your immature **** demik.
Post by: demik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:09:38
Told you soI doubt it happened while the board was in transit, I bet the damage occurred when the customs workers just tossed it all back in the box because "it's not ours so why should we care". I'm really not in the mood for your immature **** demik.
lol right
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:10:14
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:14:19
They might think the brass was gold bar.(https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/360/1.0)
So someone saw it was insured for 1k, opened it to see what's inside, noticed the brass plates on the back and unscrewed it thinking it was gold?
How could you ever ship anything valuable using USPS?
Post by: demik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:25:09
Why is a board shipped from Malaysia to Chicago in Korea now?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:26:19
Wait.
Why is a board shipped from Malaysia to Chicago in Korea now?
I've been wondering that as well. Isn't kin25's board seperate from Joey's?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:28:11
No, it's the exact board I bought from yuktsi and the caps I bought.Wait.
Why is a board shipped from Malaysia to Chicago in Korea now?
I've been wondering that as well. Isn't kin25's board seperate from Joey's?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:48:16
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:50:08
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:51:33
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:54:00
Ok I gotta ask 'cause this is confusing. Korean =/= Malaysia or USA. Shouldn't the new concern be that it's in a different country? If I had something returned to "sender" and it popped up in Mexico instead of Canada, I'd be pretty worried.At this point I figure everyone is as confused as I am and I'm just glad a GH member has it.
But honestly I figure I'm losing a bunch of money either way so why try make myself more confused/ angry/ dissapointed than I am now.
Post by: pesky brat on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:54:51
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 07 August 2015, 13:57:55
It can't be blind luck that kin has it.Ok I gotta ask 'cause this is confusing. Korean =/= Malaysia or USA. Shouldn't the new concern be that it's in a different country? If I had something returned to "sender" and it popped up in Mexico instead of Canada, I'd be pretty worried.At this point I figure everyone is as confused as I am and I'm just glad a GH member has it.
But honestly I figure I'm losing a bunch of money either way so why try make myself more confused/ angry/ dissapointed than I am now.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:01:12
The whole story is a bit shady, I'd love for yuktsi or kin to explain how it ended up in korea.It can't be blind luck that kin has it.Ok I gotta ask 'cause this is confusing. Korean =/= Malaysia or USA. Shouldn't the new concern be that it's in a different country? If I had something returned to "sender" and it popped up in Mexico instead of Canada, I'd be pretty worried.At this point I figure everyone is as confused as I am and I'm just glad a GH member has it.
But honestly I figure I'm losing a bunch of money either way so why try make myself more confused/ angry/ dissapointed than I am now.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:01:21
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:09:42
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:12:36
Yuktsi has a 456GT. He wants to sell it, but make double the money. He "sells" this one board to both kin25 and Joey Quinn. He intentionally makes the US intl post label unreadable, packs it poorly and writes the return address to kin25's residence.
He knows Joey will never get the board, but insures it for $1000 so that Joey doesn't complain and can just get his money back.
Joey (supposedly) gets his money back and everyone gets what they want. Yuktsi leaves GH forever and nobody ever figures out that he is Pacifist.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:12:54
Perhaps a recycled box with an old address under the wrapping?
That was my thought. If Kin sent something to yuktsi and they just returned it to the return address on the box it would end up there.
Though you'd have to wonder why the person sending it back didn't question why it was in the US. :))
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:14:10
The answer? Korean kustom white kollar krime...
Yuktsi has a 456GT. He wants to sell it, but make double the money. He "sells" this one board to both kin25 and Joey Quinn. He intentionally makes the US intl post label unreadable, packs it poorly and writes the return address to kin25's residence.
He knows Joey will never get the board, but insures it for $1000 so that Joey doesn't complain and can just get his money back.
Joey (supposedly) gets his money back and everyone gets what they want. Yuktsi leaves GH forever and nobody ever figures out that he is Pacifist.
What a twist!
Post by: demik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:14:51
Then why did Joey get a letter from usps?Perhaps a recycled box with an old address under the wrapping?
That was my thought. If Kin sent something to yuktsi and they just returned it to the return address on the box it would end up there.
Though you'd have to wonder why the person sending it back didn't question why it was in the US. :))
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:19:48
Then why did Joey get a letter from usps?Perhaps a recycled box with an old address under the wrapping?
That was my thought. If Kin sent something to yuktsi and they just returned it to the return address on the box it would end up there.
Though you'd have to wonder why the person sending it back didn't question why it was in the US. :))
Because that was from the wrapping, which was separated from the box - no way to link them at that point.
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:20:13
Didn't the letter have the wrapper with it with his own address on it?Then why did Joey get a letter from usps?Perhaps a recycled box with an old address under the wrapping?
That was my thought. If Kin sent something to yuktsi and they just returned it to the return address on the box it would end up there.
Though you'd have to wonder why the person sending it back didn't question why it was in the US. :))
Post by: Spopepro on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:20:21
...but it's pure gold to observe. I feel bad about how much I'm enjoying it.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:20:56
...but it's pure gold to observe. I feel bad about how much I'm enjoying it.
...why?
Post by: Spopepro on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:21:54
Post by: demik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:23:18
Then why did Joey get a letter from usps?Perhaps a recycled box with an old address under the wrapping?
That was my thought. If Kin sent something to yuktsi and they just returned it to the return address on the box it would end up there.
Though you'd have to wonder why the person sending it back didn't question why it was in the US. :))
Because that was from the wrapping, which was separated from the box - no way to link them at that point.
Makes sense.
The drama. Everything that has happened is so insane you'd not be able to make up a story like this.
Uh, pretty easy to make up a story like this.
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:26:04
Then why did Joey get a letter from usps?Perhaps a recycled box with an old address under the wrapping?
That was my thought. If Kin sent something to yuktsi and they just returned it to the return address on the box it would end up there.
Though you'd have to wonder why the person sending it back didn't question why it was in the US. :))
Because that was from the wrapping, which was separated from the box - no way to link them at that point.
Makes sense.The drama. Everything that has happened is so insane you'd not be able to make up a story like this.
Uh, pretty easy to make up a story like this.
Tell me a story
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:28:02
Yeah. Still, the box has to be wrapped. I will do something about it. It's the address on the box that saved the board.
The real answer *dequips tinfoil hat*
It was a box from kin25, somehow the shipping label came off.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:30:43
The answer? Korean kustom white kollar krime...
Yuktsi has a 456GT. He wants to sell it, but make double the money. He "sells" this one board to both kin25 and Joey Quinn. He intentionally makes the US intl post label unreadable, packs it poorly and writes the return address to kin25's residence.
He knows Joey will never get the board, but insures it for $1000 so that Joey doesn't complain and can just get his money back.
Joey (supposedly) gets his money back and everyone gets what they want. Yuktsi leaves GH forever and nobody ever figures out that he is Pacifist.
And it would have worked too, if it weren't for those meddling kids!
Post by: demik on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:30:53
MoreThen why did Joey get a letter from usps?Perhaps a recycled box with an old address under the wrapping?
That was my thought. If Kin sent something to yuktsi and they just returned it to the return address on the box it would end up there.
Though you'd have to wonder why the person sending it back didn't question why it was in the US. :))
Because that was from the wrapping, which was separated from the box - no way to link them at that point.
Makes sense.The drama. Everything that has happened is so insane you'd not be able to make up a story like this.
Uh, pretty easy to make up a story like this.
Tell me a story
Here's a story,
Of a lovely lady,
Who was bringing up three very lovely girls.
All of them with hair of gold,
Like their mother --
The youngest one in curls.
Here's a story,
Of a man named Brady,
Who was busy with three boys of his own.
They were four men,
Living all together,
Yet they were all alone.
Till the one day when the lady met this fellow,
And they knew it was much more than a hunch,
That this group must somehow form a family.
That's the way we all became the Brady Bunch.
The Brady Bunch...
The Brady Bunch...
That's the way we became the Brady Bunch!
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:31:04
hey mind telling blank to put my address underneath a really ****ty wrapper on all your boards?Yeah. Still, the box has to be wrapped. I will do something about it. It's the address on the box that saved the board.
The real answer *dequips tinfoil hat*
It was a box from kin25, somehow the shipping label came off.
Post by: njbair on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:57:28
Yeah. Still, the box has to be wrapped. I will do something about it. It's the address on the box that saved the board.
The real answer *dequips tinfoil hat*
It was a box from kin25, somehow the shipping label came off.
Yeah, I bet yuktsi got something shipped from kin25, then reused the box to ship JQ's keyboard. Because it was being wrapped anyway, yuktsi didn't bother to scratch out the old shipping labels from kin25. So once the wrap was torn off, the box looked like it had originated in Korea, so that's where they sent it back to after it failed customs (which probably happened because it wasn't wrapped).
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 07 August 2015, 14:58:01
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 07 August 2015, 15:21:10
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 07 August 2015, 15:28:46
Look at that thick, sturdy box, and this form fitting foam.You know just how I like it, baby.
Post by: njbair on Fri, 07 August 2015, 15:29:22
To everyone who is shipping an expensive ass keyboard, watch this video. Look at that thick, sturdy box, and this form fitting foam.
That was oddly satisfying.
Post by: beehatch on Fri, 07 August 2015, 15:29:57
To everyone who is shipping an expensive ass keyboard, watch this video. Look at that thick, sturdy box, and this form fitting foam.
I'm all about thick...hard and sturdy boxes. Aw yea those peanuts.
no but seriously, what the hell is going on with this situation
Post by: SixtyLife on Fri, 07 August 2015, 15:47:22
Post by: calmfries on Fri, 07 August 2015, 16:57:00
I can't just sit here, reading all that hate comments and made up stories throwing at a friend of mine.
I feel sorry for Joey, it is painful to look at those damages. Hope you can get something back from USPS.
Post by: Karura on Fri, 07 August 2015, 17:19:21
The answer? Korean kustom white kollar krime...
Yuktsi has a 456GT. He wants to sell it, but make double the money. He "sells" this one board to both kin25 and Joey Quinn. He intentionally makes the US intl post label unreadable, packs it poorly and writes the return address to kin25's residence.
He knows Joey will never get the board, but insures it for $1000 so that Joey doesn't complain and can just get his money back.
Joey (supposedly) gets his money back and everyone gets what they want. Yuktsi leaves GH forever and nobody ever figures out that he is Pacifist.
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Post by: katushkin on Fri, 07 August 2015, 17:21:03
Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 07 August 2015, 17:59:43
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 07 August 2015, 19:23:37
Enjoy Joey, the wait and effort and stress is all worth it :)
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 07 August 2015, 19:35:15
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 07 August 2015, 20:17:18
I find it cruel that Joey was in distressed over the lost keyboard and when it was found, all yuktsi said was "guess where it is" with a photo and leave it at that for speculation. And then kin came in later to show the same pix and said he received something from yuktsi and pointed out damages to the edge. Poor Joey being toss from one roller coaster ride to another. Hopefully they do have some PMs to clarify this but just reading the thread as a 3rd party is distraughting!They both have PMs but right now I don't know any more than you do.
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 07 August 2015, 20:26:24
Post by: njbair on Fri, 07 August 2015, 20:57:58
Why? It should be a three party PM! You should be in the know as you are the buyer.
I find it cruel that Joey was in distressed over the lost keyboard and when it was found, all yuktsi said was "guess where it is" with a photo and leave it at that for speculation. And then kin came in later to show the same pix and said he received something from yuktsi and pointed out damages to the edge. Poor Joey being toss from one roller coaster ride to another. Hopefully they do have some PMs to clarify this but just reading the thread as a 3rd party is distraughting!They both have PMs but right now I don't know any more than you do.
Time zones, man. They're probably just waking up over there.
Post by: yuiop on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:08:36
In June, Kin25 shipped tx1800 keyboard to Yuktsi in Malaysia. Apparently Yuktsi used the box that came from Korea (from Kin25) as the 'inner box' when he shipped 456GT to Joey in US. You can see that box in 2nd pic in OP, the one has white tape all wrapped around. That's Kin's box. He put that box in the 'outer box' (or the wrapper? I'm not sure) and shipped it to Joey.
When the package got to US customs, they opened it up for inspection. The fact it was insured for $1000 and had huge metal bars inside probably alerted them enough to open it up. They obviously weren't very careful with it and ended up damaging the keyboard :( After the inspection, they should have put everything back together and delivered it to Joey. Instead they sent the outer wrapping material to Joey and inner box back to kin25 in Korea. WTF right? That's because that 'inner box' still had the old label on it. Kin as the sender and Yuktsi as the recipient.
(http://i.imgur.com/NZEb6la.jpg)
This is the tracking number for the inner box. It says the delivery was completed on June 8th in Malaysia. Then all of a sudden it shows up in USORDA - that's Chicago O'hare customs - a month and a half later. US customs probably had no idea how to proceed with a package destined to Malaysia so they sent it back to Kin25 in Korea.
TL;DR
Just an unfortunate situation for everyone involved. I think the US customs screwed up big time on this one.
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:14:17
If Kin was perhaps anyone else, we might not even know where it would have ended up.
Hopefully you can get a big chunk of it back from USPS, Joey.
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:18:24
In this case USPS should have to own up to it..
If Kin was perhaps anyone else, we might not even know where it would have ended up.
Hopefully you can get a big chunk of it back from USPS, Joey.
This, and your money back for the price of the board too.
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 08 August 2015, 09:14:27
okayyyy... hope it IS finally sorted out and Joey is kept in the know.Why? It should be a three party PM! You should be in the know as you are the buyer.I find it cruel that Joey was in distressed over the lost keyboard and when it was found, all yuktsi said was "guess where it is" with a photo and leave it at that for speculation. And then kin came in later to show the same pix and said he received something from yuktsi and pointed out damages to the edge. Poor Joey being toss from one roller coaster ride to another. Hopefully they do have some PMs to clarify this but just reading the thread as a 3rd party is distraughting!They both have PMs but right now I don't know any more than you do.
Time zones, man. They're probably just waking up over there.
Post by: demik on Sat, 08 August 2015, 10:57:44
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:00:21
He should just cut his loses and ask for his money back. Or a significant price reduction due to the damage.I agree. Most people that I know that have had damage while shipping have been able to get money back.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:03:06
He should just cut his loses and ask for his money back. Or a significant price reduction due to the damage.I completely agree. There is no way I would feel comfortable spending that much money on a severely damaged board. I understand people have different opinions on the term "severe" but with any high dollar collectible, any damage should be considered severe IMO.
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:04:58
The scratches/dent completely ruined the chance of resale at a decent price.He should just cut his loses and ask for his money back. Or a significant price reduction due to the damage.I completely agree. There is no way I would feel comfortable spending that much money on a severely damaged board. I understand people have different opinions on the term "severe" but with any high dollar collectible, any damage should be considered severe IMO.
Post by: digi on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:12:28
Post by: demik on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:14:37
I wouldn't go that far. But he paid for something and he's getting something else. And while he still won't admit to it, it's taking a risk with the packaging.The scratches/dent completely ruined the chance of resale at a decent price.He should just cut his loses and ask for his money back. Or a significant price reduction due to the damage.I completely agree. There is no way I would feel comfortable spending that much money on a severely damaged board. I understand people have different opinions on the term "severe" but with any high dollar collectible, any damage should be considered severe IMO.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:15:59
Not to mention the missing brass weight.I wouldn't go that far. But he paid for something and he's getting something else. And while he still won't admit to it, it's taking a risk with the packaging.The scratches/dent completely ruined the chance of resale at a decent price.He should just cut his loses and ask for his money back. Or a significant price reduction due to the damage.I completely agree. There is no way I would feel comfortable spending that much money on a severely damaged board. I understand people have different opinions on the term "severe" but with any high dollar collectible, any damage should be considered severe IMO.
Post by: digi on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:17:54
Not to mention the missing brass weight.I wouldn't go that far. But he paid for something and he's getting something else. And while he still won't admit to it, it's taking a risk with the packaging.The scratches/dent completely ruined the chance of resale at a decent price.He should just cut his loses and ask for his money back. Or a significant price reduction due to the damage.I completely agree. There is no way I would feel comfortable spending that much money on a severely damaged board. I understand people have different opinions on the term "severe" but with any high dollar collectible, any damage should be considered severe IMO.
The picture shows two brass weights, not sure if the screw holes in the case are stripped though.
Post by: demik on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:18:32
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:19:19
I completely missed that. Thanks for the correction.Not to mention the missing brass weight.I wouldn't go that far. But he paid for something and he's getting something else. And while he still won't admit to it, it's taking a risk with the packaging.The scratches/dent completely ruined the chance of resale at a decent price.He should just cut his loses and ask for his money back. Or a significant price reduction due to the damage.I completely agree. There is no way I would feel comfortable spending that much money on a severely damaged board. I understand people have different opinions on the term "severe" but with any high dollar collectible, any damage should be considered severe IMO.
The picture shows two brass weights, not sure if the screw holes in the case are stripped though.
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:19:40
Well, I know that some people won't want to buy it w/ a dent like that, especially since you can actually see it when using the board. But yeah, at least a decent chunk of value was taken out.I wouldn't go that far. But he paid for something and he's getting something else. And while he still won't admit to it, it's taking a risk with the packaging.The scratches/dent completely ruined the chance of resale at a decent price.He should just cut his loses and ask for his money back. Or a significant price reduction due to the damage.I completely agree. There is no way I would feel comfortable spending that much money on a severely damaged board. I understand people have different opinions on the term "severe" but with any high dollar collectible, any damage should be considered severe IMO.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:20:45
Just look at how long those 2 cheats sat in the classifieds, at least 3 months I think.Well, I know that some people won't want to buy it w/ a dent like that, especially since you can actually see it when using the board. But yeah, at least a decent chunk of value was taken out.I wouldn't go that far. But he paid for something and he's getting something else. And while he still won't admit to it, it's taking a risk with the packaging.The scratches/dent completely ruined the chance of resale at a decent price.He should just cut his loses and ask for his money back. Or a significant price reduction due to the damage.I completely agree. There is no way I would feel comfortable spending that much money on a severely damaged board. I understand people have different opinions on the term "severe" but with any high dollar collectible, any damage should be considered severe IMO.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 08 August 2015, 12:53:34
Resale of this board will be a ***** and I'll work on getting money from USPS for damage. All damage money will be sent to yuktsi.
Edit: The bottom line is I don't want the board anymore.
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 08 August 2015, 21:56:30
The real best solution would be for yuktsi to refund $1000. I'll eat the shipping cost and we'll wash our hands of this ****ty situation.
Resale of this board will be a ***** and I'll work on getting money from USPS for damage. All damage money will be sent to yuktsi.
Edit: The bottom line is I don't want the board anymore.
Have you heard back from yuktsi or kin? I hope you all reach a good resolution.
Post by: yuktsi on Sun, 09 August 2015, 05:57:07
Post by: demik on Thu, 13 August 2015, 02:42:21
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 13 August 2015, 11:17:06
So what came of this?I'm being refunded and yuktsi is keeping the board. Sharing losses and moving on seemed like the best option to us.
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 13 August 2015, 11:27:07
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 13 August 2015, 12:08:33
I'm glad there's an end in sight that's not a complete disaster. Better luck next time Joey :thumb:So what came of this?I'm being refunded and yuktsi is keeping the board. Sharing losses and moving on seemed like the best option to us.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 13 August 2015, 12:10:00
May be a while before the "next time", after both the LSV1 and this being damaged while shipping I'm starting to think I can't own nice things. :))I'm glad there's an end in sight that's not a complete disaster. Better luck next time Joey :thumb:So what came of this?I'm being refunded and yuktsi is keeping the board. Sharing losses and moving on seemed like the best option to us.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 13 August 2015, 14:00:20
I know your Gon was just a kit but its freaking MINT Joey for real ! I feel you though Every time an OTD comes up something happens ....just spent all my money, theres some misunderstanding, person sold it before I could get back to them,transmission drops in my car sigh... it seems I am cursed to live forever OTD-lessMay be a while before the "next time", after both the LSV1 and this being damaged while shipping I'm starting to think I can't own nice things. :))I'm glad there's an end in sight that's not a complete disaster. Better luck next time Joey :thumb:So what came of this?I'm being refunded and yuktsi is keeping the board. Sharing losses and moving on seemed like the best option to us.
We should start an OTD support group Joey
Post by: demik on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:11:52
So what came of this?I'm being refunded and yuktsi is keeping the board. Sharing losses and moving on seemed like the best option to us.
Glad you came to an agreement. On the bright side, you didn't spent 1k on a single keyboard.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:16:08
Yeah, the whole experience has made me never want to drop that on a board again. It'll be a while before I stick my wallet back into the OTD world.So what came of this?I'm being refunded and yuktsi is keeping the board. Sharing losses and moving on seemed like the best option to us.
Glad you came to an agreement. On the bright side, you didn't spent 1k on a single keyboard.
Post by: R1N3 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:33:37
Yeah, the whole experience has made me never want to drop that on a board again. It'll be a while before I stick my wallet back into the OTD world.So what came of this?I'm being refunded and yuktsi is keeping the board. Sharing losses and moving on seemed like the best option to us.
Glad you came to an agreement. On the bright side, you didn't spent 1k on a single keyboard.
I learned a lot from you sharing this experience, Joey. My future foreign keyboard decisions will forever be weighed with this on the scale. Thank you :)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:10:31
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:12:07
Brother, it's not the happiest ending but I'm glad it had something other than a lost kb and USPS refusing to pay anything. And the fact that it was sent to another GH'er in error because of the old address on the box....wow that just amazes me. I mean we all reuse boxes, but what if it was a box from something totally unrelated and some dude in Timbuktu ended up with your board??? :mindblown:
:mindblown: for sure
It's been a pretty great story for the viewers and it's been an interesting experience for me. I feel like it'll be a useful resource for future keyboard shipping and handling unfortunate situations so at least there's a silver lining.
Post by: demik on Sat, 15 August 2015, 18:06:24
One good thing to come out of this is he's going to learn for his GB and hopefully not run into problems.Brother, it's not the happiest ending but I'm glad it had something other than a lost kb and USPS refusing to pay anything. And the fact that it was sent to another GH'er in error because of the old address on the box....wow that just amazes me. I mean we all reuse boxes, but what if it was a box from something totally unrelated and some dude in Timbuktu ended up with your board??? :mindblown:
:mindblown: for sure
It's been a pretty great story for the viewers and it's been an interesting experience for me. I feel like it'll be a useful resource for future keyboard shipping and handling unfortunate situations so at least there's a silver lining.
Post by: E3E on Sat, 15 August 2015, 19:37:19
That said, I still had something get lost in the mail once on its return to the sender. >_<