Good day everyone,
Regarding: Feedback
Most of the changes between Olivia and Olivia++ were based on feedback from the first round. Olivia came with a list of changes for ++ including kit changes, layout coverage, and an alternate color-scheme, and currently this thread is a circlejerk about NorDEUK and Colemak & Dvorak.
Some of you have suggested some additions on this IC, most of them were already addressed by Olivia on October 19:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102914.150Q: Base kits:
A: "The kits will be very different from the original GB to support the 2 different color modes."
If this is not clear enough, this means that Olivia ++ will have two base kits and both kits will have the exact same layout support:
40%, UK ISO, Space Bars, Novelties, and More Novelties.
Q: tweaked icon mods?:
A: No, the set will use the standard text + icon mods.
Just like the first round, the set will use the same modifiers.
Q: R5 bottom row?
No, the set will be using a R4.
Q: Colemak & Dvorak kit:
A: No, it won't be available.
Q: NorDEUK kit?
A: There will not be a NorDEUK kit, only UK ISO.
Getting suggestions is one thing, complaining for 4 pages about 2 kits is another.
Group buy runners deal differently when someone repeatedly complains on their IC about the lack of X or Y kit or layout support.
Some confront those messages with short line answers and get the reputation of being massive ****s.
For some others it makes them less confident about their sets, and creates stress.
Regarding: this set will sell so much that we have to make X kit.
You are assuming too much. There's a lot of interest for this set, but that doesn't guarantee a damn thing.
Interest is not a direct translation to "this set will sell 1200 Dark base kits".
We have many examples of a designer trying to please everyone and then having issues during the group buy, ending up with the vendor purchasing kits to MOQ.
Assuming that a set will sell like hot cakes can lead to bad group buys.
Regarding: not having posted the kits yet.
I take the blame for that one.
For ++, I strongly suggested Olivia to make a site (
https://oliviaplus.plus) so she could to provide all the information you need about the set including kits, kit descriptions, keyboard gallery, links to all of the vendors, pricing...
Olivia will be posting instead an OP update later today.