Post by: oldcat on Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:28:25
We are excited to reopen our IC for G60, with better features than last time. G60 is a retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard designed by Scott from the Basic I/O Instruments (BIOI). After obtaining feedback from the GH community in a previous IC (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94188.0) and a successful trial run private GB, Scott has optimized many fine details, and we believe G60 warrants a full run at GH.
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Its key features are as follows.
1. The design is inspired by Cherry G80-3000 Series, the size is cut down to 60%.
2. Aluminum 6061
3. 10 Colors available
4. Top-bottom case design
5. Compatible with both Top Mount and standard GH60 style tray mount
6. Compatible with most PCBs based on GH60 (via an included FPC extension kit)
7. Optional high-performance QMK-based Bluetooth/USB Dual Mode PCB designed by BIOI
8. Compatible with both USB-C and USB-Mini
9. Multiple layouts compatibility, NEW POLL HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
10. Optional plate material (PC, CF, Brass) and optional 4mm thick plates, NEW POLL HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
11. Designed by Scott from BIOI
12. Manufactured by ALF
Let us know what you think, and please provide feedback! Kindly fill out the Interest Check Form below.
Click to Fill Out the G60 Interest Check Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1hfTUm-ikEavMw3bg8sywnld3JFnao1plwRcCdv-qepI)
Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates, optional plate material, and layout options (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
Updates:
10/8/2018: R2 prototype is being made
11/10/2018: Second R2 prototype is being made
Projected Timeline:
Now - Late December: Prototype and finetuning details
Mid-January: Start Geekhack GB
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:31:42
Post by: scottwei on Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:33:01
After 6 months testing, it's time to intruduce G60 to everyone now...
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:33:20
Interested. So it is a hybrid mounting system? Top-mount plate AND tray mount poles?
Yes :)
And plus, it's compatible with regular PCB, plus dual mode QMK-based PCB.
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:35:20
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:36:44
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 12 September 2018, 13:19:14
Post by: burning47 on Wed, 12 September 2018, 13:27:36
Post by: mrkevint on Wed, 12 September 2018, 13:33:24
I know many people prefer top mount but I have an old keyboard I wanna swap cases with lol.
Post by: glubazoid on Wed, 12 September 2018, 13:38:07
Post by: realxmlforce on Wed, 12 September 2018, 14:01:16
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 12 September 2018, 14:03:55
Post by: hhkbp2 on Wed, 12 September 2018, 14:08:48
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 12 September 2018, 15:35:04
Will the Bluetooth/USB dual mode code be contributed to QMK?
Please ask Scott directly :)
Post by: Gghi on Wed, 12 September 2018, 17:05:17
Post by: the_high_5 on Wed, 12 September 2018, 17:22:47
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 12 September 2018, 18:50:11
:D thanks oldcat!
After 6 months testing, it's time to intruduce G60 to everyone now...
Scott my man!
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 12 September 2018, 19:03:57
:D thanks oldcat!
After 6 months testing, it's time to intruduce G60 to everyone now...
Scott my man!
Yusss
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 12 September 2018, 19:50:22
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 12 September 2018, 20:54:38
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 12 September 2018, 22:40:01
I bought one from your private GB (via a friend) it is still in transit to me though. May i know if it is also compatible with top mount plates? If so, i can just get a pcb/plate from the GB?
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 12 September 2018, 23:10:48
Post by: beekey on Thu, 13 September 2018, 00:15:58
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 13 September 2018, 00:38:50
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?
At this time, ANSI and ANSI with arrow clusters are supported
I will ask Scott to provide some more details for his own dual mode pcb and if you use your own pcb
Post by: voight-kampff on Thu, 13 September 2018, 02:22:05
Post by: ballinboyz on Thu, 13 September 2018, 03:23:31
Post by: obertau on Thu, 13 September 2018, 04:05:04
Post by: 112227 on Thu, 13 September 2018, 05:39:15
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 13 September 2018, 07:09:23
Really dig the design, not psyched by ALF's color catalog. I would love a gold/copper/brass/champagne or even a timid yellow like on the Leaf.
I agree with this retro design
KMK Labs.
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 13 September 2018, 08:23:49
Off-white or beige colour case please!
Agreed with this, it'd be great to pair with 9009 or OG beige caps.
Post by: 8six753o9 on Thu, 13 September 2018, 10:31:11
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 13 September 2018, 13:06:37
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?
The current plan is to allow layouts similar to XD60, Scott shared this layout image with me. We will update when the new PCB comes in!
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Post by: macken on Thu, 13 September 2018, 17:34:02
Post by: obertau on Thu, 13 September 2018, 20:50:19
Post by: dallman5 on Thu, 13 September 2018, 23:47:57
I'll likely be sticking with top mount, but would you be able to comment on the number of mounting points you intend to include for tray mount?
Quick edit: Would you also be able to comment on the projected price?
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 14 September 2018, 00:10:51
Very interested, this feels like a good landing spot for some OG POMs that I have been sitting on for a while now!
I'll likely be sticking with top mount, but would you be able to comment on the number of mounting points you intend to include for tray mount?
Quick edit: Would you also be able to comment on the projected price?
Scott may be able to comment on number of mounting points (assume tray mount will be standard mounting on pcb).
For your information, the private GB was $250 and it Scott lost money on the GB as he made multiple prototypes. That said, we will keep the GB price as low as possible.
Post by: macken on Fri, 14 September 2018, 00:23:53
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 14 September 2018, 06:00:06
Post by: kimusan on Fri, 14 September 2018, 07:41:59
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 14 September 2018, 12:31:23
This is just too cute to pass up.
Let's increase the cuteness level :)
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Post by: hineybush on Fri, 14 September 2018, 12:38:51
(https://i.imgur.com/23pWrrq.png)
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 14 September 2018, 12:45:35
This spacing seems off, any chance of a fix for R2?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/23pWrrq.png)
Yes. I have talked to Scott and he said this has been fixed in the new prototype.
Post by: PernusBernus on Fri, 14 September 2018, 13:12:36
Post by: livewirerc on Fri, 14 September 2018, 13:47:32
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 14 September 2018, 17:46:37
will there be support for iso layouts?
I will check with Scott on the ISO layout.
Edit: yes it's positive. Layouts are super flexible with this.
Post by: PernusBernus on Fri, 14 September 2018, 17:54:46
will there be support for iso layouts?
I will check with Scott on the ISO layout.
Post by: macken on Fri, 14 September 2018, 18:28:25
will there be support for iso layouts?
I will check with Scott on the ISO layout.
I thought one could use almost any 60% with this?
Post by: dantambok on Fri, 14 September 2018, 21:53:49
will there be support for iso layouts?
I will check with Scott on the ISO layout.
I think you 100% can if you use traymount and your pcb of choice
I thought one could use almost any 60% with this?
Post by: BaconEggandCheeseBagel on Sat, 15 September 2018, 16:26:53
Post by: young_won on Sat, 15 September 2018, 21:05:54
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?
The current plan is to allow layouts similar to XD60, Scott shared this layout image with me. We will update when the new PCB comes in!
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i think spacebar too long.
Post by: Cods on Sat, 15 September 2018, 21:23:44
Post by: pizza_is_a_lie on Sun, 16 September 2018, 08:44:13
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 16 September 2018, 10:56:55
Interested! 60%+Arrow keys layout, Bluetooth plus USB C plus QMK is a winner for me.
Personally, 60% ANSI + Arrow cluster is a winner for me too :) haha
Post by: befbef on Mon, 17 September 2018, 05:40:08
Every compatibility has disadvantages.
For example the bluetooth integration is something I don't like because it needs a hollow space for battery and I won't use it.
Not sure about the double-mount. Best case it's just a bit more expensive, but perhaps there are other compromises to be made.
The design is so great and I hope it doesn't suffer to much from all this.
I would be happy if it was just an ordinary top-mount (or even tray-mount only) case.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 17 September 2018, 06:55:02
I'm a bit afraid that you want to much for this case.I have to agree with this. I don't care a bit for Bluetooth or wireless here. Especially for a board that is meant to be a recreation of something that is classic. Personally I'd rather just get one type of mount and be over with it.
Every compatibility has disadvantages.
For example the bluetooth integration is something I don't like because it needs a hollow space for battery and I won't use it.
Not sure about the double-mount. Best case it's just a bit more expensive, but perhaps there are other compromises to be made.
The design is so great and I hope it doesn't suffer to much from all this.
I would be happy if it was just an ordinary top-mount (or even tray-mount only) case.
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Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 17 September 2018, 07:23:27
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 17 September 2018, 17:33:44
I also don't care for Bluetooth. I embrace the wires!
Hey this will be dual mode :) You can always use wires!
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 17 September 2018, 20:00:25
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 17 September 2018, 23:10:02
Post by: Quakemz on Tue, 18 September 2018, 02:06:50
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400
Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?
Post by: scottwei on Tue, 18 September 2018, 11:44:14
Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400
Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?
the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.
My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.
Post by: hhkbp2 on Tue, 18 September 2018, 11:56:37
Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400
Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?
I think the standoffs could be sitting a bit lower than the top mount pcb position so that you could still have most of the flex if you choose top mount.
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 18 September 2018, 12:01:18
Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400
Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?
I think the standoffs could be sitting a bit lower than the top mount pcb position so that you could still have most of the flex if you choose top mount.
Yes, this. I say put the tray mount posts a bit lower AND THEN... include a very short rubber standoff to add on top of the posts for tray mount. Adding shock absorbing material on tray mount posts has great effects, and it would solve your dual mount delima by allowing top mount to retain flex and giving tray mount a unique setup for better shock absorption.
I like the idea of accommodating both. Nice work.
Post by: befbef on Tue, 18 September 2018, 14:52:49
Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400
Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?
the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.
My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.
That's all nice, but i guess that are things most of us are doing with kbdfans cases.
The design is too good to mess it up and I think the price too high to use it as an experimental box.
Post by: scottwei on Tue, 18 September 2018, 20:18:59
Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400
Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?
the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.
My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.
That's all nice, but i guess that are things most of us are doing with kbdfans cases.
The design is too good to mess it up and I think the price too high to use it as an experimental box.
so, as hhkbp2 and pixelpusher mentioned. when using top mounted, the PCB won't touch the standoffs, it will be slightly higher than tray mounted. the hollow space for battery is actually not so big, it won't affect the sound of the case when we typing on it.
Post by: Quakemz on Tue, 18 September 2018, 20:45:53
Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400
Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?
the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.
My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.
That's all nice, but i guess that are things most of us are doing with kbdfans cases.
The design is too good to mess it up and I think the price too high to use it as an experimental box.
so, as hhkbp2 and pixelpusher mentioned. when using top mounted, the PCB won't touch the standoffs, it will be slightly higher than tray mounted. the hollow space for battery is actually not so big, it won't affect the sound of the case when we typing on it.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification! :thumb:
Post by: obertau on Wed, 19 September 2018, 02:00:29
Post by: scottwei on Wed, 19 September 2018, 12:46:10
Can we get a MAO finish for off-white?
On the PCB？
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 19 September 2018, 15:29:08
Can we get a MAO finish for off-white?
Do you mean for the case?
Post by: obertau on Wed, 19 September 2018, 18:22:15
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 20 September 2018, 00:28:40
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 20 September 2018, 13:04:06
For the case.
The white is ALF's Pearl White color. I will share some pictures soon.
Post by: chouyu on Thu, 20 September 2018, 14:58:35
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 20 September 2018, 16:10:03
I can't wait to see it. :cool:
Thanks boss!
Post by: obertau on Fri, 21 September 2018, 09:54:37
Post by: Kafka on Fri, 21 September 2018, 13:51:26
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?
The current plan is to allow layouts similar to XD60, Scott shared this layout image with me. We will update when the new PCB comes in!
(Attachment Link)
Swiss cheese plate :(
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 21 September 2018, 16:56:21
What are examples of 60percent boards that would fit the case? Any hotswappable 60percent pcbs that would definitely fit the case?
Will check with Scott about hotswapping!
Post by: dantambok on Sat, 22 September 2018, 05:54:14
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Post by: macken on Sat, 22 September 2018, 06:29:23
Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount :(
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Damn! That looks solid as a tank.
Post by: audax989 on Sat, 22 September 2018, 08:06:35
Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount :(
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what do you mean only tray mount? no plate?
Post by: dantambok on Sat, 22 September 2018, 08:46:03
Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount :(
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what do you mean only tray mount? no plate?
Pare, i mean only since the first proto run was tray mount only. The current version on IC now is a hybrid that supports tray mount as well as top mount :D
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 23 September 2018, 04:32:28
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Post by: oldcat on Sun, 23 September 2018, 14:22:47
Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount :(
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Wow you got your hands on the V1 G60! Only a handful were made in the private GB.
Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 23 September 2018, 17:57:00
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 25 September 2018, 15:44:25
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 30 September 2018, 14:05:05
Post by: distracteddev on Sun, 30 September 2018, 15:26:49
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 01 October 2018, 00:53:48
Really hope the new PCB supports split space. I really feel like this board could be ideal for it in terms of the smaller form factor and use of additional layers
It supports almost any 60% pcbs.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 01 October 2018, 05:59:42
Post by: elfick on Mon, 01 October 2018, 11:00:45
Post by: dr-slump on Mon, 01 October 2018, 12:07:25
60% + arrows + ISO ;D
Will there be an option for OG beige in the future?
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 02 October 2018, 03:40:03
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Post by: oldcat on Tue, 02 October 2018, 13:17:06
Is there an approx. Price?
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After the whole prototype is done I think we should be able to give an estimate. Just to give you a reference, the earlier China private GB for the tray mount version was around $250. Unfortunately, the CNC machine time for all the shapes doubles that of making a Doro67, so this kit likely end up between $250 and $300.
Scott will take some videos to show the meticulously crafted shapes for this one.
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 03 October 2018, 01:17:35
Are Hot-swap pcb-s compatible also? Kalih Hot-swap, or holties?
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Post by: ojrask on Fri, 05 October 2018, 17:13:00
Post by: unausgeschlafen on Sat, 06 October 2018, 08:48:29
Post by: voight-kampff on Sat, 06 October 2018, 11:08:13
so into this. This is my endgame case!This is the endgame for me also, although I know there is no such a thing as an endgame. Can't wait for the GB.
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Post by: oldcat on Mon, 08 October 2018, 13:32:13
Prototype done soon.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/5825
Post by: lazyfart on Tue, 09 October 2018, 03:00:15
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 09 October 2018, 04:45:07
:thumb:
Image Gallery for R1 version, R2 will be much improved!!
Prototype done soon.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/5825
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 10 October 2018, 00:04:49
Looking good! Love the retro inspiration from the Cherry boards. Hopefully they are built much more sturdy than those though. lol
Definitely more creative ways to play with it!
R2 Prototype coming soon!
Post by: SteffeMK on Wed, 10 October 2018, 01:37:35
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Post by: oldcat on Wed, 10 October 2018, 17:26:23
Post by: icho on Thu, 11 October 2018, 13:46:08
Post by: RETURNISO on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:02:08
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
Quick question, No chance for universal plate option in the poll? or is it because of that current config only support a ANSI only pcb?
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:29:51
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
Quick question, No chance for universal plate option in the poll? or is it because of that current config only support a ANSI only pcb?
Hey, you can always use any GH60 compatible plate (and PCB) in the tray mount position. This poll is specifically for the top mount plate. Scott said he wanted to cut the top mount plate as little as possible, but at the same time providing some layout flexibility.
Post by: macken on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:39:12
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.
Post by: RETURNISO on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:42:42
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
Quick question, No chance for universal plate option in the poll? or is it because of that current config only support a ANSI only pcb?
Hey, you can always use any GH60 compatible plate (and PCB) in the tray mount position. This poll is specifically for the top mount plate. Scott said he wanted to cut the top mount plate as little as possible, but at the same time providing some layout flexibility.
Cool, i understand. i just asked because i would love a thicker plate ( universal ) and the 4mm from the poll just sounded like a treat. :) but as it ANSI only for top mount. no worries i look forward to see the new samples mentioned. Looking forward to the GB! :thumb:
Post by: RETURNISO on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:43:50
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.
+1 for ISO topmount :thumb:
Post by: krey on Mon, 15 October 2018, 08:42:16
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Mon, 15 October 2018, 08:54:29
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 15 October 2018, 14:52:23
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.
+1 for ISO topmount :thumb:
ISO should be relatively easy to accommodate IMO, I will confirm with Scott on the top mount plate :)
Post by: RETURNISO on Mon, 15 October 2018, 15:24:56
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1chrAgJcBOAelyHhU56f42IEIP5NkV7_bEbrBu4YdYak)
Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.
+1 for ISO topmount :thumb:
ISO should be relatively easy to accommodate IMO, I will confirm with Scott on the top mount plate :)
SWEET! Thanks oldcat
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 17 October 2018, 19:13:28
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Post by: oldcat on Mon, 22 October 2018, 17:45:14
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Tue, 23 October 2018, 19:28:59
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Tue, 23 October 2018, 20:02:42
just built mine today :D
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Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 24 October 2018, 15:46:11
just built mine today :D
(Attachment Link)
Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?
I will ask Scott to take some pictures
Post by: scottwei on Fri, 26 October 2018, 19:59:31
just built mine today :D
(Attachment Link)
Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?
SA Obilivion on G60
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Post by: scottwei on Sat, 27 October 2018, 08:12:09
the extend kits, contains mini type-c plug and receptacle. they can be cross-connected, which means PCB with mini receptacle can be extended to a type-c one, and vice versa.
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 27 October 2018, 09:39:49
just built mine today :D
(Attachment Link)
Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?
SA Obilivion on G60
(Attachment Link)
Looking good! :thumb:
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 27 October 2018, 09:40:33
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the extend kits, contains mini type-c plug and receptacle. they can be cross-connected, which means PCB with mini receptacle can be extended to a type-c one, and vice versa.
Dope!
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 27 October 2018, 09:41:28
Post by: scottwei on Sat, 27 October 2018, 10:47:16
How is it going with the prototype?, looking forward :cool:
it was a little delayed, maybe one or two weeks later, ALF's machines are running day and night.
Post by: Cods on Sun, 28 October 2018, 03:05:58
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 28 October 2018, 04:07:16
Very interested if hot swappable keyswitches are a feature!
Well, all MX styled "keyswitches" are hot swappable ^-^ what you are wishing for is a hot swappable enabled PCBA. :p
Post by: scottwei on Mon, 29 October 2018, 07:52:22
custom FPC cable between the PCB and the extend receptacle
Post by: voight-kampff on Mon, 29 October 2018, 12:09:25
Post by: scottwei on Mon, 12 November 2018, 20:38:09
(https://i.redd.it/n7kod37nxbx11.jpg)
(https://i.redd.it/g8hbi22nxbx11.jpg)
(https://i.redd.it/79ykm32nxbx11.jpg)
(https://i.redd.it/qovxvn2uxbx11.jpg)
(https://i.redd.it/krg4q84uxbx11.jpg)
Post by: TheMissingPiece on Tue, 13 November 2018, 01:25:49
Also, if this board supports split spacebar as well as 2u shift, it may very well be my next keyboard!
Post by: scottwei on Tue, 13 November 2018, 02:47:44
I've been keeping an eye on this board. It looks very promising? You mention that the board is QMK-based but also has a very long battery life. From what I've heard, QMK boards don't really have a long battery life due to the way polling is done (but I'm not sure). How do you manage to do this?
Also, if this board supports split spacebar as well as 2u shift, it may very well be my next keyboard!
Actually, it's not about the QMK itself, it's about tunning an AVR MCU(most of the custom keyboard use this kind of chips), by shutting down unnecessary module, we can almost cut down half of the power consumes. I wrote a custom main loop and matrix scan function for further power saving. Yang, who made YD60BLE created this precedent, his TMK based firmware consumes just 1.7ma standing by, I'm following his path and trying to keep up.
BTW, Splited spacebar and 2u shift are dropped for sure on G60, Sorry for that. But I would like to release this PCB separated later, it could be a much compatible version. and... Are we just forget this is a compatible case for any GH60-like PCB?
Post by: igke on Mon, 19 November 2018, 02:31:11
Post by: RominRonin on Wed, 21 November 2018, 00:00:47
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Post by: oldcat on Thu, 22 November 2018, 13:30:06
Is there any chance of releasing a separate Bluetooth kit for existing qmk compatible PCBs?
Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk
@Scottwei may be able to answer
Post by: RominRonin on Thu, 22 November 2018, 14:29:14
Post by: scottwei on Fri, 23 November 2018, 01:15:47
Is there any chance of releasing a separate Bluetooth kit for existing qmk compatible PCBs?
Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk
It's possible, But lack of operational for most PCB. Most of the PCB doesn't have extra pinout of power supply and I/Os.
Post by: scottwei on Fri, 23 November 2018, 01:17:40
Since I'm asking questions, what about a G65? ;) thanks...
Planned and definitely would make it happen.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 23 November 2018, 10:53:50
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Post by: mrkevint on Fri, 23 November 2018, 11:37:53
What do you guys think about this colorway? We might do another proto based on this colorway if you guys are interested!
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OMG yes please! I've always loved the industrial grey color of the NCR boards.
I would definitely pick that colorway if it becomes an option.
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 23 November 2018, 23:09:21
Post by: scottwei on Tue, 27 November 2018, 01:39:45
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Post by: hineybush on Tue, 27 November 2018, 08:18:46
I preliminary decided these are all possible layouts, I dropped some rarely used and 2u LShift layouts, keeping the most common ones. and the layout compatibility for the 4mm thick plate has been limited, we split it into two main kinds, ANSI and ISO, we do maintain some compatibility on row 5, RShift and the Backspace.
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I support this
Any chance you'd release plate files?
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 22:40:53
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Post by: beekey on Sun, 02 December 2018, 06:21:23
But we can also use regular 60% plates? Or are special plates needed?Interested. So it is a hybrid mounting system? Top-mount plate AND tray mount poles?
Yes :)
And plus, it's compatible with regular PCB, plus dual mode QMK-based PCB.
Post by: equalunique on Sun, 02 December 2018, 09:42:01
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Post by: hineybush on Sun, 02 December 2018, 15:26:57
Post by: lac29 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:35:49
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:41:31
The test ano looks good but seems way too dark compared to the OG NCR combo
Properly MAO And Grey showcased maybe? what do you say OP?
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 20:02:06
The test ano looks good but seems way too dark compared to the OG NCR combo
Properly MAO And Grey showcased maybe? what do you say OP?
I think Scott wanted to achieve something similar to NCR colorway
Post by: scottwei on Wed, 05 December 2018, 19:44:39
Post by: scottwei on Wed, 05 December 2018, 19:48:17
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 24 December 2018, 11:09:55
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Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 24 December 2018, 13:34:48
Post by: Kafka on Mon, 24 December 2018, 17:53:23
I love the themed colors, like NCR and Dolch ;D
Post by: duxbridge on Tue, 25 December 2018, 06:18:07
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 25 December 2018, 10:30:57
Very interested. Especially the navy blue colour
Er... wheres the navy one?
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 25 December 2018, 13:24:12
Really looking forward to it, I know scott have done amazing work on the pcb and plates and not to mention the design features. :thumb:
Post by: scottwei on Wed, 26 December 2018, 11:05:03
I updated some pictures in this post.
Post by: hhkbp2 on Wed, 26 December 2018, 11:10:00
http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/11521
I updated some pictures in this post.
Waiting for the GB to start...
Post by: piercejenkins on Wed, 26 December 2018, 11:46:44
Post by: RETURNISO on Wed, 26 December 2018, 18:36:38
Will this accept gh60 PCBs or have universal mounting positions?
5. Compatible with both Top Mount and standard GH60 style tray mount
6. Compatible with most PCBs based on GH60 (via an included FPC extension kit)
Post by: scottwei on Wed, 26 December 2018, 21:43:51
Any conclusion yet what all the 10 colors will be?
Really looking forward to it, I know scott have done amazing work on the pcb and plates and not to mention the design features. :thumb:
the color plan changed, I introduced new two-tone colorways.
Post by: iliketimex on Thu, 27 December 2018, 10:57:50
Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.
Post by: mr scooty on Fri, 28 December 2018, 14:43:40
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 29 December 2018, 22:28:20
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Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.
NCR is my favorite, that retro feel
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 30 December 2018, 21:31:59
<edited as not to sidetrack thread>
Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.
NCR is my favorite, that retro feel
any chance of seeing some OG cherry dyesubs or GMK 9009 on the NCR themed board? Just not a fan of how it looks with dolch, but I think I might like the color with another set.
Post by: dyrdevil on Sun, 30 December 2018, 22:15:57
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Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.
NCR is my favorite, that retro feel
any chance of seeing some OG cherry dyesubs or GMK 9009 on the NCR themed board? Just not a fan of how it looks with dolch, but I think I might like the color with another set.
+1 on this, feel the same way
Post by: BserLarry on Tue, 01 January 2019, 20:54:16
Would this work w a KBD6X PCB?
This is my first time DIY-ing, and this is the shop list I have:
White G60 HHKB (buy from GB)
HHKB plate (buy from GB)
KBD6X Hot swap PCB (bought)
1x7U + 2x2U Stabilizers (bought)
JTK Yolch (getting the extras)
Holy Panda switches (bought)
Trying to learn as much from these technical terms, would be much glad if someone can confirm Im on the right track:-)
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 01 January 2019, 22:05:55
GB form is in beta-testing in ALF discord.
Post by: jeAr on Tue, 01 January 2019, 22:13:01
Coming soon, in a day or two
GB form is in beta-testing in ALF discord.
Excited.
How many days will it run, if you don't mind me asking.
Post by: tanega on Wed, 02 January 2019, 09:36:47
Post by: scottwei on Wed, 02 January 2019, 09:54:44
<edited as not to sidetrack thread>
Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.
NCR is my favorite, that retro feel
any chance of seeing some OG cherry dyesubs or GMK 9009 on the NCR themed board? Just not a fan of how it looks with dolch, but I think I might like the color with another set.
I'll try this later
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 02 January 2019, 15:05:54
Coming soon, in a day or two
GB form is in beta-testing in ALF discord.
Excited.
How many days will it run, if you don't mind me asking.
Till end of Jan
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 04 January 2019, 19:25:46
Post by: chouyu on Sat, 05 January 2019, 09:52:39
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 05 January 2019, 10:54:28
Post by: Signature on Sat, 05 January 2019, 11:01:04
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