What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?

[xtrafrood]

Debian is remarkable with a bleeding edge Linux kernel.

[TacticalCoder]

Tried Devuan for fun (basically Debian but without systemd) but... Trial ran short when I tried to install Docker CE and ran into issues. I'm a big Docker user (my workstation runs ****load of Docker containers) so that experiment didn't last long.

Just installed Debian Buster (it's not stable yet but should be Real Soon Now [TM]) on my new NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 lanes SSD (Samsung 970 EVO Plus) and it rocks even more than my old setup. Only package I couldn't get to work is "subuser" but I take it this may be because Buster ain't in "stable" status yet.

[xtrafrood]

Yep, it's interesting to note that Ubuntu LTS syncs with Debian testing, and non-lts syncs with Debian unstable (currently Sid).  Some folks will urgue that EXT4 is still unproven even though Google and Ubuntu upgraded from EXT2 to EXT4 nearly ten years ago.  Must have been a nightmare to use EXT2 as a backbone for Google servers.  I'd imagine they had some kind of internal file system logging.  Though it probably goes without saying that EXT2 makes for a decent USB based file system.  What I dislike as a Debian desktop user is that without testing I couldn't use a flatbed scanner.  Once I upgraded to testing I could actually.. test things. And with a fresh 5.1.x kernel compiled with 4.19 configurations (default debug off--I'm not a kernel developer) and default all new options I can say the graphical performance for Radeon with Debian testing can be nearly a match for Arch or Fedora.  Granted I've only found solid ground with this setup using XFCE4 and i3wm.  KDE should be fine, Kwin appears to recover gracefully when compared to Mutter (gnome 3).  I've gotta say though, for several months I've used bleeding edge Gnome 3 with vanilla Arch without needing to bail out to another tty session because of freeze ups.  I had to do that a bunch back in 2016 with Debian stable, not my idea of a good time.  I'd wager that was just Gnome 3 doing Gnome 3 things.  Anyway, could be all the stability comes from the special Ubuntu LTS sauce; I have a sneaking suspicion that Debian Testing (currently Buster) is just as stable as Ubuntu LTS.  Not that I'd trust anything said on a KB forum with a $20k+ 44u rack decision.

[TacticalCoder]

Not that I'd trust anything said on a KB forum with a $20k+ 44u rack decision.

Just to be clear: I never implied Debian Buster was ready to be deployed on production servers at the moment ; )

[xtrafrood]

Not that I'd trust anything said on a KB forum with a $20k+ 44u rack decision.

Just to be clear: I never implied Debian Buster was ready to be deployed on production servers at the moment ; )

Talk about an out of context quote--the link I gleamed earlier shows a post from Popey, who (with some cursory Google foo) works for Canonical. Yet again I've no clue what's in the Ubuntu LTS special sauce, though LTS is in fact synced with Debian Testing (currently known as codename Buster--soon to be known as codename Sid).  I'd be curious to know the number of LTS production workstations vs everyday LTS production servers.  I not exactly sure what the cloud combatibility situatuion is with Debian.  I have one test Debain (testing or codename Buster) VM with LAMP stack/Nextcloud Docker containers up and running and managed with Cockpit (Arch host with KVM hyper), but never ran it through any kind of benchmarking.  Anyway, I'm rambling like an idiot again.  I really should check out some formal training, this Linux kernel thing is like LEGO technics without the messy cleanup

edit - Bullseye is the new codename for testing, not Sid. *shrugs*

[coralof]

Just found the Linux thread!  I've been using Debian Stable for a while now. When I first started using Linux in 2008, I started with Ubuntu 8.10, and continued using Ubuntu up until a year or two ago, when I switched to Debian after everything started getting infiltrated with snap packages on Ubuntu.

[menuhin]

Tried Devuan for fun (basically Debian but without systemd) but... Trial ran short when I tried to install Docker CE and ran into issues. I'm a big Docker user (my workstation runs ****load of Docker containers)...

Devuan 2.0 user here

I'm only a basic Dock user - as long as there's a dock for my most frequent Apps.
And I'm a keyword-based Appfinder and launcher person, e.g. press Super+Spacebar and then "Fire..." to locate Firefox and then press just Enter to launch it.

What kind of Docker and Docker containers do you use?
What are the good characteristics that you like about them?

[Mr.Elli0t]

I primarily stick with Mint, but I've used Ubuntu, Qubes, Whonix, and from time-to-time will use Kali.

[thearctican]

I primarily stick with Mint, but I've used Ubuntu, Qubes, Whonix, and from time-to-time will use Kali.

Most of which are Debian-based!

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

[ilovecats]

At the moment, Ubuntu 19.04 via a VPS; I used to be a really big fan of Cygwin too.

[valkyr1e]

Long time Linux user here, started with Slackware somewhere around 2001.

I use Debian nowadays, because I'm lazy

LFS is still the best because I like to do everything my way (like package management), but I just can't keep up with security updates.

[xtrafrood]

Currently enjoying Arch with fresh Gnome 3.XX.X.  Arch on main since 2018-01-25, and Gnome since 2019-03-26 (i3-gaps/bspwm before that).  Still running nightly snapshots with borgbackup. 

Moved all gaming to Ubuntu 19.04 partition (steam/proton/deb compatibility).  Older laptop is running Debian Testing (bullseye) with custom compiled i3-gaps and i3blocks.

[SBJ]

Currently enjoying Arch with fresh Gnome 3.XX.X.  Arch on main since 2018-01-25, and Gnome since 2019-03-26 (i3-gaps/bspwm before that).  Still running nightly snapshots with borgbackup. 

Moved all gaming to Ubuntu 19.04 partition (steam/proton/deb compatibility).  Older laptop is running Debian Testing (bullseye) with custom compiled i3-gaps and i3blocks.

Currently messing around with i3wm myself, boy do I love it.

[no, the other guy]

Try dwm

[valkyr1e]

Try TWM

[xtrafrood]

Currently enjoying Arch with fresh Gnome 3.XX.X.  Arch on main since 2018-01-25, and Gnome since 2019-03-26 (i3-gaps/bspwm before that).  Still running nightly snapshots with borgbackup. 

Moved all gaming to Ubuntu 19.04 partition (steam/proton/deb compatibility).  Older laptop is running Debian Testing (bullseye) with custom compiled i3-gaps and i3blocks.

Currently messing around with i3wm myself, boy do I love it.

Good stuff.  i3wm allows folks to go beyond video hardware maximum horizontal resolution in order to use all the pixels in multi-monitor setups.  Gnome 3 seems to limit based on video card max spec.

[rowdy]

I tried the new Debian in a VM, didn't quite work out as I hoped.

The start menu (for want of a better name) highlights each entry as the mouse moves over it, but making the menu entry slightly lighter.  Trouble is, it doesn't unhighlight it when the mouse moves on.  So after a few seconds of moving the mouse up and down on the menu the whole thing gradually turns bright white.

This could be a VirtualBox problem, or a Debian problem.  Probably the former.

[xtrafrood]

I tried the new Debian in a VM, didn't quite work out as I hoped.

The start menu (for want of a better name) highlights each entry as the mouse moves over it, but making the menu entry slightly lighter.  Trouble is, it doesn't unhighlight it when the mouse moves on.  So after a few seconds of moving the mouse up and down on the menu the whole thing gradually turns bright white.

This could be a VirtualBox problem, or a Debian problem.  Probably the former.

Debian Testing XFCE, i3wm, and Virtual Box paired with KVM hypervisor works for me.  With both built in kernels and custom latest stable kernels (plus arandr).  Adapta-Nokta GTK theme and Papirus Icon theme *whistles*

[rowdy]

I tried the new Debian in a VM, didn't quite work out as I hoped.

The start menu (for want of a better name) highlights each entry as the mouse moves over it, but making the menu entry slightly lighter.  Trouble is, it doesn't unhighlight it when the mouse moves on.  So after a few seconds of moving the mouse up and down on the menu the whole thing gradually turns bright white.

This could be a VirtualBox problem, or a Debian problem.  Probably the former.

Debian Testing XFCE, i3wm, and Virtual Box paired with KVM hypervisor works for me.  With both built in kernels and custom latest stable kernels (plus arandr).  Adapta-Nokta GTK theme and Papirus Icon theme *whistles*

Cinnamon.

Probably should have said.

There's a VirtualBox update out too ...

[Surefoot]

Ubuntu at home, latest version, mostly due to native Steam support. Since this is going to change, i'll probably change my distro too... I like the no-nonsense, no-headache approach of Ubuntu, everything works out of the box and without having to resort to command line - which is perfect for my parents PC (they love it, and it's zero maintenance)

[xtrafrood]

I tried the new Debian in a VM, didn't quite work out as I hoped.

The start menu (for want of a better name) highlights each entry as the mouse moves over it, but making the menu entry slightly lighter.  Trouble is, it doesn't unhighlight it when the mouse moves on.  So after a few seconds of moving the mouse up and down on the menu the whole thing gradually turns bright white.

This could be a VirtualBox problem, or a Debian problem.  Probably the former.

Debian Testing XFCE, i3wm, and Virtual Box paired with KVM hypervisor works for me.  With both built in kernels and custom latest stable kernels (plus arandr).  Adapta-Nokta GTK theme and Papirus Icon theme *whistles*

Cinnamon.

Probably should have said.

There's a VirtualBox update out too ...

Oh Cinnamon..  Heh, forgot about that one.  Good luck

[xeronu]

see attached...

details about my setup can be found here:
https://git.io/nord-scrot

[TacticalCoder]

Still running Debian on my servers, laptop and workstation (and still running Raspbian on my Raspberry Pi's).

I tried Devuan (the Debian fork without systemd) out of curiosity but couldn't make Docker work under Devuan and was kinda in a hurry so I threw the towel on Devuan for the moment. But when I get the time I may try it again.

[TacticalCoder]

see attached...

details about my setup can be found here:
https://git.io/nord-scrot

Ah "Nord" is such an elegant color theme. I use it as my Emacs theme (and I spend my life inside Emacs).

[valkyr1e]

Anyone know a good way to keep up with security updates in LFS? I know many uses Slackware changelog

[xtrafrood]

Installed EndeavourOS on a whim yesterday.  The polish reminds me a little of Puppy Linux, while the operation reminds me of Arch with a nicely tricked out XFCE desktop (fork of Antergos--makes sense).

Anecdotal info aside, for a project that's existed for a few months they're already IMO close to a better install experience compared to Antergos.  No ZFS as root atm, but I did see manual partitioning options for: luks2, btrfs, xfs, ext4, lvm2, ntfs, etc.

Also: updated my test Antergos VM to see if they pushed out the last update that converts systems to vanilla Arch..  Not yet, info via Antergos forum points to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ as the date for the conversion update.  Groovy.

[quadcube]

debian..rock solid stability

[rowdy]

Started running cbpp (CrunchBang++) in a VM at work for miscellaneous purposes.

So far so good - very fast, all the software I need, low resource usage.

I gave up on Ubuntu with MATE in a VM on the same host - it was just to abysmally slow.

[1391401]

I used to try everything for kicks (linux, bsd, unix, etc) but now I just install ubuntu LTS until it's out of support and upgrade.

[menuhin]

Anyone know a good way to keep up with security updates in LFS? I know many uses Slackware changelog

Wow, you're one of those still doing this...?
I think this is perhaps your answer: https://serverfault.com/a/2098

I did something from source for the kernel and modules and some parts of the system in 1996-98 on my Laptop with a Pentium II processor.
I want an easier life, right now using [Debian - Systemd = Devuan 2.0 ASCII] and I am glad there are more and more options without Systemd out there.

Wanted to try ArchLinux and some of those cool Tiling WM, but keep getting back to my Emacs and its packages.

[iri]

My 'Debian without systemd' distro is MX Linux

[yui]

Used OpenSuse and Debian on my laptop until the graphics driver crapped out (from what i read there is no way of running linux > 3 on a GCN1 graphics card) now this laptop is on win7 and my tower on OpenSuse tumbleweed so i do not have to worry much about upgrading.
I did try Ubuntu and its derivative but i missed zypper/Yast2 and Debian's flexibility.
I am kind of planing to try to get windows in a Xen vm on my tower for gaming as some games i like do have native linux client that were not updated when linux 5 came out and do not work anymore but i have not yet managed to do the gpu pass through without everything crashing.

[rolito223]

I'm using Ubuntu on my desktop and Linux Mint in a small notebook only for run SSNES, DOSBox and Scummvm.

[Deadboy]

I installed Ubuntu as a side partition on my office pc, and at home I've using Kali and W10.

[xtrafrood]

Still can't believe that fresh Plasma runs as well as it does on older 64bit hardware (XRender backend for this 2007 single core pebkac special).  Aside from 'bespoke' tiliing wms tied with targeted compton configurations, I generally have to switch off or remove the compositor.  Basically after a year+ of Arch Linux and daily dedup snapshots before updates I'm not comfortable with running anything else.  I've tried almost everything--nothing seems to fit quite right.

Pretty sure I've said all this like a hundred times already, but Arch/Plasma fits me like an old pair of jeans.  And the holes provide the perfect amount of ventilation )

[yui]

plasma has gone a long way in optimization, or it might just have not grown in requirement and our PC have become more powerful, either way it has become a decent option even for old-ish hardware

[iri]

Yeah, I also want my old PC's to become more powerful.

[Leslieann]

Arch/Plasma fits me like an old pair of jeans.

Agreed.
There is a lot of hate for it but I think it's people who remember old KDE/Plasma, which was heavier and buggy.


2007? Single Core?
Look around for anything ddr3/ssd or better (2nd gen Intel, AMD am3), you can buy that stuff dirt cheap now, if not free and it runs Linux great. Ask around, check Ebay, Craigslist, thrift shops, yard sales, recyclers, Goodwill...

[appaboy]

I use kde neon sometimes but fl studio not working well on wine has discouraged me from using Linux currently. Kde neon is my favorite out of other distro I’ve tried but I’m not sure how unpopular of an opinion that is

[yui]

I use kde neon sometimes but fl studio not working well on wine has discouraged me from using Linux currently. Kde neon is my favorite out of other distro I’ve tried but I’m not sure how unpopular of an opinion that is

I tried it, i somewhat liked it but kde is available on pretty much all major distros so i switched back to OpenSuse with kde on top so i could get yast as well, i do not quite understand the appeal of neon but it is not bad per say.
And windows compatibility have increased quite a bit with Valve's proton (at least for games) i would recommend giving it a try if you have some disk space or a spare PC lying around (with kubuntu or debian KDE if you like KDE and for better steam compatibility).

[xtrafrood]

Arch/Plasma fits me like an old pair of jeans.

Agreed.
There is a lot of hate for it but I think it's people who remember old KDE/Plasma, which was heavier and buggy.


2007? Single Core?
Look around for anything ddr3/ssd or better (2nd gen Intel, AMD am3), you can buy that stuff dirt cheap now, if not free and it runs Linux great. Ask around, check Ebay, Craigslist, thrift shops, yard sales, recyclers, Goodwill...

Yep 2007 64bit single core.  This is all good advice for folks with minimal resources.  Not everyone is in the same financial situation--even those in their 30s can become stuck at times.

I grabbed the latest Arch Linux iso to see how much was changed.  According to a few news outlets quite a bit was removed--we'll see.  Planned to use some of the weekend to alter my install notes )

Thankfully my Nextcloud instance now has that new markdown editor.  Joplin and Simplenote are handy but I'd rather have something self hosted and consistent across multiple distros.

[guneyd]

Debian with KDE at work and currently Win10 at home. Waiting to buy a good AMD GPU (if I can save a little bit money NOT buying anything keeb related for a month..) in order to use Arch with Sway again .

[iri]

I installed Plasma and it looked a bit sheet

[romevi]

Arch

[xtrafrood]

Sheet metal?  Sheetrock?  I use: default light breeze qt theme, papirus-light icons, breezemite light window decorations, and default breeze light for gtk decorations.  So basically sheetrock with Event Calendar.

I'd agree with anyone that says that the Kool cigarettes naming scheme is a bit tired and dated at this point.

When I learned that KDE/Plasma is used at CERN is kinda when I tried it out.  Not sure how Arch/Plasma is in a VM--I installed it direct to SSD.

Here be sheetrock themed dragons.  I like it.

More

[Leslieann]

I installed Plasma and it looked a bit sheet

I admit, first few times I went to use it wondered why it looked like a Win 2k ripoff but it takes only a bit of tweaking to look better. Oxygen is a terrible theme (I.M.O.).

I usually use Breeze Dark with Gnome Icons, but I also ditch the default app launcher and switch to Application Menu, then an icons only task manager which I center (one set per screen). Here's my primary screen task bar and app menu.


Note I don't use a lower taskbar. The layout is built to minimize traversing the entire screen vertically. I did it as an experiment after coming to the realization I pretty much only went to the bottom to change tasks and ended up liking it to much to return. Basically my mouse rarely ever drops much below mid screen with this layout making mousing more efficient.

[iri]

lol Chromium

Sheet metal?  Sheetrock?  I use: default light breeze qt theme, papirus-light icons, breezemite light window decorations, and default breeze light for gtk decorations.  So basically sheetrock with Event Calendar.

I'd agree with anyone that says that the Kool cigarettes naming scheme is a bit tired and dated at this point.

When I learned that KDE/Plasma is used at CERN is kinda when I tried it out.  Not sure how Arch/Plasma is in a VM--I installed it direct to SSD.

Here be sheetrock themed dragons.  I like it.

More

Show Image

Show Image

Show Image

Nice wallpaper. Mine looked like yours OOTB, but with worse fonts.

[audiosl4ve]

now i have urge to install some distors again. Havent's used Linux in a few years but i might give it a shot again since i rarely game these days. Was using I3 mostly, am in love with tiling WMs 

[xtrafrood]

lol Chromium

Sheet metal?  Sheetrock?  I use: default light breeze qt theme, papirus-light icons, breezemite light window decorations, and default breeze light for gtk decorations.  So basically sheetrock with Event Calendar.

I'd agree with anyone that says that the Kool cigarettes naming scheme is a bit tired and dated at this point.

When I learned that KDE/Plasma is used at CERN is kinda when I tried it out.  Not sure how Arch/Plasma is in a VM--I installed it direct to SSD.

Here be sheetrock themed dragons.  I like it.

More

Show Image

Show Image

Show Image

Nice wallpaper. Mine looked like yours OOTB, but with worse fonts.

'Summer 1am' wallpaper had been part of the wallpaper collection since Plasma 5.4.95. :)

edit - has been.. grr

[iri]

Ah, so now I know why it looks familiar. I've seen it outside!