@tp4tissue
D4mn son. You make my eyes seek more. I could never draw that straight.
@dorkvader
feels like a 30 your old's, stuck on his 17's. But I know your are older.
Thanks for telling that I am a kid : p
But really thanks for taking taking the time to note these guide lines. I only did 3 of your suggestions, which shows.
The one real side effect of not writing, is data loss, and no power for computers. That said, there are still typewriters today.
Clicky ri click click CLANG Guruuuu shuum
I think vinyl records sound best.
But, as adults, it's a good 2 to 3 days of concentration tops, and you'd have yourself a decent hand.I hate pencils with a passion, but I can't justify buying a decent fountain pen(and you recommended a ballpoint anyway). Is there any ballpoint in particular I should use to start off? I generally write with Bic Crystals or Bic round stic pens, but it sort of feels like they suck.
Just a side note, Script, in my pic, is different from "cursive".
Script is not necessarily linked, many letters are formed individually but in a way such that they appear to be linked.
Always practice with a Ballpoint pen, or pencil, because they don't bleed whatsoever, and gives you ample time to form your letters.
Once you've mastered the swift movements, you can switch to a more liquid pen to make your writing appear fluid-y
:D, I didn't think you keyboard geeks cared about handwriting. I didn't have my thick paper today, bit bleedy
Written with my ghetto safari, because I can't afford a nice pen after all da' keyboards. :'( :'(Show Image(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx237/tp4tissue/Capture_00001_zps747f1f29.jpg)
But, as adults, it's a good 2 to 3 days of concentration tops, and you'd have yourself a decent hand.I hate pencils with a passion, but I can't justify buying a decent fountain pen(and you recommended a ballpoint anyway). Is there any ballpoint in particular I should use to start off? I generally write with Bic Crystals or Bic round stic pens, but it sort of feels like they suck.
Just a side note, Script, in my pic, is different from "cursive".
Script is not necessarily linked, many letters are formed individually but in a way such that they appear to be linked.
Always practice with a Ballpoint pen, or pencil, because they don't bleed whatsoever, and gives you ample time to form your letters.
Once you've mastered the swift movements, you can switch to a more liquid pen to make your writing appear fluid-y
I think my handwriting is decent enough. I've never dotted my I's or J's for some reason though.
the pink was from a gel pen I got in like 5th grade in the mid 90's. First time using it since :D
Stills works nice a smooth.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7JhDW.jpg)
I like writing instruments to be fairly "fat" but light in weight, and easily gripped, so most "fancy" pens do not please me because they tend to be heavy. A Cross-style pen is therefore the worst of all possible worlds - skinny, heavy, and slick.
I do a fair amount of hand drafting in both pencil and pen, and I have my favorites, but I am not particularly elitist. I especially like traditional #2 wooden pencils. And I hate pink erasers, I use white vinyl if at all possible.
For cheap ordinary pens, Pilot used to make one called the "VBall Grip" that I liked a lot, but became very hard to find in any width except extra fine. I generally like pens with broader lines. They were also more prone to leak than most, not a good trait.
About analog music - I think that you have it backwards. All musical instruments (except synthesizers) are analog devices, including the human voice, sound waves themselves are an analog phenomenon, and the human ear is an analog device. A continuous sound wave curve most closely reproduces the actual event, and any sort of intermittent sampling, no matter how fine, is what leaves out and "blurs" information.
As to whether the capabilities of a machine are beyond the threshold of a human ear, well, that is another question, but I don't think that anyone will deny that analog music systems sound "warmer" even if they are less "crisp" than digital ones.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4aBzu.jpg)
>_> I can never produce good handwriting when I try to force myself to.
I apparently also can't write straight when I try to either, lolol.
//Jaws drop//
Bro, that a pretty sexy handwritin...
Lack of consistency but I've always found that to be part of the charm in "handwriting"
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4aBzu.jpg)
>_> I can never produce good handwriting when I try to force myself to.
I apparently also can't write straight when I try to either, lolol.
//Jaws drop//
Bro, that a pretty sexy handwritin...
Lack of consistency but I've always found that to be part of the charm in "handwriting"
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4aBzu.jpg)
>_> I can never produce good handwriting when I try to force myself to.
I apparently also can't write straight when I try to either, lolol.
//Jaws drop//
Bro, that a pretty sexy handwritin...
Lack of consistency but I've always found that to be part of the charm in "handwriting"
WHOA, did you just compliment a girl?
crazy, not a sexist remark either!
im mad because i have incredibly bad hand writing :(
I don't believe there's a girl on geekhack, not for one second, disapproving wives don't count
I don't believe there's a girl on geekhack, not for one second, disapproving wives don't count
You're right, I'm a Pikachu :3
There's no such thing as bad handwriting.(http://www.deletetheweb.com/unstuck/A3-scribble-02.jpg)
I haven't written in a while considering I'm on school holidays and have been doing far too much typing so here's my attempt.
I felt like I didn't write very well. TOO MUCH PRESSURE.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FNiQh.jpg)
Dave.
There's no such thing as bad handwriting.Show Image(http://www.deletetheweb.com/unstuck/A3-scribble-02.jpg)
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I haven't written in a while considering I'm on school holidays and have been doing far too much typing so here's my attempt.
I felt like I didn't write very well. TOO MUCH PRESSURE.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FNiQh.jpg)
Dave.
Looks like a young person's handwriting..
I'd describe it as, direction-less and unruly :D
this doesn't mean bad, it's just what the visuals bring to mind.
How old might you be?
I haven't written in a while considering I'm on school holidays and have been doing far too much typing so here's my attempt.
I felt like I didn't write very well. TOO MUCH PRESSURE.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FNiQh.jpg)
Dave.
Looks like a young person's handwriting..
I'd describe it as, direction-less and unruly :D
this doesn't mean bad, it's just what the visuals bring to mind.
How old might you be?
Spot on! I'm 17, almost 18. But that would be clear as I said I was on school holidays ;)
We were always taught to write in cursive in grade 2 or 3 but most of my classmates stopped writing like that and for some reason I continued.
I like it better than the average person's writing though.
Dave.
We were always taught to write in cursive in grade 2 or 3 but most of my classmates stopped writing like that and for some reason I continued.I think schools should be having typing classes instead, and start at the least with the KB QFMLWY layout (http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx/?full_optimization). I wonder If I should have them have terminals instead at every desk. Nah, too distracting.
We were always taught to write in cursive in grade 2 or 3 but most of my classmates stopped writing like that and for some reason I continued.I think schools should be having typing classes instead, and start at the least with the KB QFMLWY layout (http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx/?full_optimization). I wonder If I should have them have terminals instead at every desk. Nah, too distracting.
Writing is only needed for scratch notes and signature. Even then, tablets and RSA keys are better.
If they only learnt QFMLWY and most keyboards were standard QWERTY then we'd have a relatively useless workforce until QFMLWY became standard ;)Well, there's always software keyboard mapping you can always use, and teach. And if everyone is taught *nix with setxkbmap, like usernames and passwords, we would not have this problem in 40 years. That is all it takes. If you get the opportunity to teach someone, give them TuxTyping to play with. Kids love those games.
@DabbooIf they only learnt QFMLWY and most keyboards were standard QWERTY then we'd have a relatively useless workforce until QFMLWY became standard ;)Well, there's always software keyboard mapping you can always use, and teach. And if everyone is taught *nix with setxkbmap, like usernames and passwords, we would not have this problem in 40 years. That is all it takes. If you get the opportunity to teach someone, give them TuxTyping to play with. Kids love those games.
Of course for the keycaps on the QWERTY KBs, there are many methods to change them: stickers, ink/paint, dye, laser, etc.. For kids it is best to label, for teens leave them blank. It makes a great art project every year. Then we can give them as a memento.
Look at me changing the subject. I need to design my private school before I die.
@esoomenona
Still better than me.
@Kellybear
Lucky you. I was trained in preschool with a ecommerce class once, then home schooled. I was rewarded for doing my homework to play educational games only in the computer. Dreamt of making educational game curricula for my career back then. Then I got to High school. I learned it was a terrible idea on the long term. So personal goal now, of many, is to make the ultimate ISP, with hobbies included. I still need my Doctorates on School Administration :(.
Although, if you want to train your sister, play co-op games with her. A good motivational start up is stepmania, with all 9 keys. And yes, you will need 2 11+KRO keyboards. I used to do this with my siblings back in the day. I need to visit them on Thanksgivings.
I gave it a try, Its hard for me to get in a flow when I write in english, especially when there are X and Q in the words, which isnt used in any words expect lastnames and one instrument. xDShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jBeDw.jpg)
What? you mean you didn't want to be a pornstar, but gave up cuz they said it'd be no-go? ;DThat one is even worse as a long term stable income. There may be some temporary satisfaction in that field, maybe, but not the one you get from having helped someone achieve larger dreams, thanks to your teachings/works.
@Kellybear
Although, if you want to train your sister, play co-op games with her. A good motivational start up is stepmania, with all 9 keys. And yes, you will need 2 11+KRO keyboards. I used to do this with my siblings back in the day. I need to visit them on Thanksgivings.
That F is purty dude. :D
@Kellybear
hehehe. I bought 2 industrial metal pads for all port. I think I still have my review in stepmania for the model. They are at my parents. I told them to sell them, The are incredible valuable.
And xJaPx says the next challenge, after he uploads his attempt. I want to give a little more time of others that are not afraid of typography analysis or critique. hehehehe
@tp4tissue
nice still. That pen bleed on your linear attempt.
Hehe this is kinda fun to read, I have this thread on notify list.
btw, tp4 I will steal your F from now on! even tho I will have to practice hard to perfect it.
Maybe one should starta writing with pen and paper again, havent written anything since I graduated school 2 years ago. Oh my signature have been written alot ofc, but thats it.
@moonprismpwr
I couldn't tell. Not even on the avatar signature, unless you said it. Still looks better than mine.
Also, welcome to the 10% club. I hope you have lived well.
I'm jealous of some of your handwriting styles ;;
Yeah, it was. And Asian parents just being old-fashioned and not liking how their child was 'different'. ;< but it's pretty cool how he's comfortable using both hands for everything. One day he uses chopsticks in left hand, another day, he uses his right hand xD
tp4- ^^ I hadn't ever noticed it until you pointed it out! I think it's mostly because I come down too low when finishing the Fs, and go up to high when finishing my J's. I wonder what it means o.O Apparently you can tell all sorts of things from people's handwriting
Kelly- Ooh ;; Was it religious motivation? I was lucky that when my parents stuck me in catholic school they weren't doing all that left-hand bashing anymore.
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You guys might to get started. This is old:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/index.html
http://www.catb.org/hacker-emblem/
IOW: Most of us are idealist that cannot conform to stupidity (esp. in laws).
Did you know that in my state criminals have to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed.
You guys might to get started. This is old:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/index.html
http://www.catb.org/hacker-emblem/
IOW: Most of us are idealist that cannot conform to stupidity (esp. in laws).
Did you know that in my state criminals have to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed.Code: [Select]Cyber security Botnet DDOS (dedicated denial of service) Denial of service Malware Virus Trojan Keylogger Cyber Command 2600 Spammer
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o.O What state are you in? So what happens if they don't give the person an Im-going-to-kill-you memo?They go to jail, obvs. Duh...
It's been awhile since I've written in cursive or lower case letters... The first right side up is how I would write with a little time, second is how I usually write because there is no time.
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I have a "Beware of Dog" sign on the front door.
Below that,
"Ring the Door bell 2x at 10s interval.
If nothing heard, leave note at the bin at your left"
Takes 99.9% of unwanted guests. The rest are bugs.
@tp4tissue
I think more recently than ever. However, what is crazy about my signs? One is to keep away intellectual pests, and the other is for family and my mail carrier. My mail carrier thinks it is also cute too.
What do you do to keep away solicitors?
I am not allowed to touch a pen.That's awesome.
Pic very related:Show Image(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/Vizaari/handwriting.jpg?t=1349619540)
I am not allowed to touch a pen.That's awesome.
Pic very related:Show Image(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/Vizaari/handwriting.jpg?t=1349619540)
I'm serious. :) It looks cool.I am not allowed to touch a pen.That's awesome.
Pic very related:Show Image(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/Vizaari/handwriting.jpg?t=1349619540)
Sarcasm. or?...
In school I got bad grades due to my teacher not being able to read my handwriting.
Semi-Readable:
SpHMX 04 bLack QUArtz Fuqe my row.
Normal:
Srmeux ov Breek QUOrtZ, JOyge my voy!
Reqeated:
Samix ov Brack Quartz Judge ny loy!
Samix ov Brack Quarte Judge my von!
Samix ov Brack Quarte Judge my lon!
ViZ
I think we have a winner@ Viz
This is what I read it as:Code: [Select]Semi-Readable:
I think we have a winner
SpHMX 04 bLack QUArtz Fuqe my row.
Normal:
Srmeux ov Breek QUOrtZ, JOyge my voy!
Reqeated:
Samix ov Brack Quartz Judge ny loy!
Samix ov Brack Quarte Judge my von!
Samix ov Brack Quarte Judge my lon!
ViZ
And screw your teachers. They should have always allowed printed homework, and laboratory time for it too.
Here's mine:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5SJXZ.jpg?1)
Sorry for the shoddy scan quality.
I am not allowed to touch a pen.
Pic very related:Show Image(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/Vizaari/handwriting.jpg?t=1349619540)
I do pinch my pen, and finger each letter. I have time to perfect it...still young.Here's mine:
Sorry for the shoddy scan quality.
Solid handwriting.
I do find it weird that you adhere to the standard 3 to 1 height proportion in your capital "Q" to lowercase, but then you switch to a 2 to 1 proportion for your capital "S".
Do you perhaps grip the pen very tightly and finger write every letter, vs more "wrist / arm" motion..??
I am not allowed to touch a pen.
Pic very related:Show Image(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/Vizaari/handwriting.jpg?t=1349619540)
Hey viz, Can you freehand-quick-draw a few circles and triangles all of different sizes. I would like to see them.
Davkol, your ls being 1s confuses me greatly.