Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 04 October 2019, 12:54:11
$ gmk install -g @dracula/highlight-module
$ gmk install -g @dracula/nightmode-module
$ gmk install -g @dracula/whitespace-module
$ gmk install -g @dracula/minify-module
$ gmk install -g @dracula/localization-module
$ gmk install -g @dracula/command-module
$ gmk install -g @dracula/err-module
$ gmk run deploy
> Starting 'deploy' ...
> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/master.tar.gz
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> Initializing GB ...
Welcome to the GMK Dracula group buy thread! ▓▒░
Introducing GMK Dracula, a keyset based on the glorious Dracula Theme (https://draculatheme.com/) color-scheme. GMK Dracula turns the software aesthetic into keyboard keyset form, expanding the theme even further with add-on modules. The set features dark greyish blue tones with dark blue-purple-gray alphas. The default legend color is a contrasting neutral/cool white, which adds to the overall legibility of the classic text + icon legends. In addition, the Core and add-on modules include legends and accent keys in various pastel and neon colors, all based on selected Dracula Theme colors.
(https://i.imgur.com/305tOKE.png)
> Setting up proxies ...
> Proxy set to 'Dixie Mech' ...
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├── GB_vendors/
│ └── proxy_list/
│ ├── NA - Dixie Mech [link] (https://dixiemech.store/collections/gmk-dracula)
│ ├── EU - Mykeyboard.eu [link] (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-dracula_201/)
│ ├── Oceania/Asia - Daily Clack [link] (https://dailyclack.com/products/gmk-dracc)
│ └── China/Asia - iLumkb [link] (https://ilumkb.com/products/group-buy-gmk-dracula)
└── GB_date/
├── Group Buy - October 4th 31st 2019
└── Shipping Status - Shipping! [September - October 2021]
Modules
Core【 ＭＯＤＵＬＥ】
The Core Module is the starting point of the set, featuring classic multicolored syntax highlighting of the Dracula Theme. The module offers compatibility for most layouts, while keeping the cost down by not bloating the kit with too much options.
(https://imgur.com/DQPsngO.jpg)
5 new keys included @1500 orders! R2 Home, R3 1.75u stepped Control, R3 1u Code, Home, and End keys.
Highlight【 ＭＯＤＵＬＥ】
Spice up your set with fully colored accent keys for extra highlighting, featuring cherry-picked theme colors.
(https://i.imgur.com/gqaV4lC.jpg)
Nightmode【 ＭＯＤＵＬＥ】
If you enjoy a ＣＬＥＡＮ look, it's time to turn on the nightmode for GMK Dracula.
Tone down the look of your set with a unified modifier color-scheme with the Nightmode Module.
(https://i.imgur.com/YjHo5dA.jpg)
Whitespace【 ＭＯＤＵＬＥ】
Whether you like to use spaces or tabs for indentation, that's up to you
Here's some whitespace inserting blocks for everyone to use, including accent colored ones.
(https://i.imgur.com/wEp8t3X.jpg)
Minify【 ＭＯＤＵＬＥ】
Here it is! The ultimate kit for 40%, ortholinear, and split layout keyboards. But wait, there's more! Even a second B key is included in case your dog eats the other one.
(https://i.imgur.com/IGLhSHb.jpg)
Localization【 ＭＯＤＵＬＥ】
Language support for Nordic (Danish, Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian), German, and UK layouts.
(https://i.imgur.com/fVgFfmV.jpg)
Command【 ＭＯＤＵＬＥ】
What did you think it was going to be called? Support for macOS specific keys. Starting at $999.
(https://i.imgur.com/8QUy5AD.jpg)
> 'deploy' encountered an error after 120 ms
> gmk ERR! Error: Fatal: access denied
> gmk ERR! @dracula/err-module not found
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├── IC/
│ └── GMK_modules/
│ ├── core-module
│ ├── highlight-module
│ ├── nightmode-module
│ ├── whitespace-module
│ ├── minify-module
│ ├── localization-module
│ └── EU.eww
│ ├── command-module
│ └── err-module/
│ └── vim-arrows
├── .ic.config
├── .ne-iso.avail
├── .ne-icon-mods.avail
├── FAQ
└── __feedback__/
└── form
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ERR!【 ＭＯＤＵＬＥ】
ERR░R█░▓▓▒░▒▓▒██RR█R!
(https://i.imgur.com/OtZpoOM.jpg)
Deprecated Module Versions:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/gaG6tib.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/5X1AgRx.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/LvbYfhH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/aoStHoq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/9LbACWW.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/5X1AgRx.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/LvbYfhH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/aoStHoq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/9LbACWW.png)
RAMA Keycaps
- Finish: Lightly Bead Blasted + Anodized/E-White processed + Laser Etched + Enamel Fill (colors matched to keyset colors)
- Profile: Cherry Profile - Escape Row (R1)
- Stem Type: Cherry MX
GMK Dracula x RAMA Eye, Aluminum E-White + Dark Blue Gray Enamel Fill
(https://i.imgur.com/rrKqLKs.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/t8EKM4Q.jpg)
GMK Dracula x RAMA ERR!, Aluminum Anodizing + Dark Blue Gray Enamel Fill
(https://i.imgur.com/1NtzreA.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/WbPIC5x.jpg)
Deskmats
Dracula Eye & ERR! Deskmats
- Size: 900x400x4mm
- Rubber bottom
- Stitched edges
- Cloth top
(https://i.imgur.com/45EOJRr.png)(https://i.imgur.com/cX1cG7r.png)
> Starting subtask 'rebuild' ...
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> Starting subtask 'renders' ...
Renders
Bauer by Dixie Mech
Album with all the Bauer renders: https://imgur.com/a/QURe7BY (https://imgur.com/a/QURe7BY)
(https://i.imgur.com/yILcT87.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/XeKyF3Z.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/AX4plUR.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PD6T1qX.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/6VlZtRB.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/AX4plUR.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PD6T1qX.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/6VlZtRB.png)
TGR Alice
(https://i.imgur.com/LNwr67u.jpg)
TGR Jane V2 CE
(https://i.imgur.com/wM9u2OF.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sdZ3mOC.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/VDEbijj.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/iuVAI7L.png)
TGR-910
(https://i.imgur.com/cySM3VM.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/uLcoC1g.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Zv7gIb2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/nytWIE9.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/GqlP2Zs.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Zv7gIb2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/nytWIE9.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/GqlP2Zs.png)
Album with all the TGR renders: https://imgur.com/a/Kk1WKmF (https://imgur.com/a/Kk1WKmF)
'Wickle Tickle'
board and renders by Kingk22 (https://renders.kingk22.xyz/)
(https://i.imgur.com/ECt2UcU.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/GQRGRAq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/S4HFe4W.png)(https://i.imgur.com/aJSslfD.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Y4zcuBw.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/S4HFe4W.png)(https://i.imgur.com/aJSslfD.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Y4zcuBw.png)
More renders coming soon
Colors
The colors are to be matched as close to the Dracula Theme colors as possible using custom colors, the base colors are very dark grayish blue. A GMK stock color may be used for the white alpha legend color.
The plan is to match the colors to Pantones first, then order plastic color chips, which GMK can then match their plastics to. I think this method allows for a great range of colors to choose from, but still retains the color matching accuracy with plastic chips from Pantone.
A color comparison with other popular/similar GMK sets:
▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ COLOR_COMPARISON.md ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
├── The colors are represented as accurately as possible using the correct color codes, using neutral lighting.
└── The second version has a neutral background color instead of a stylized one for an even more accurate comparison, as perception of color is relative to the surroundings after all.
(https://i.imgur.com/L3Hd3Wl.png)(https://i.imgur.com/pVYdx7j.png)
Gloomy Colors
┌───────────┬──────────┬─────────────┬───────────────┬───┐
│ Color │ Hex │ RGB │ HSL │ │
├───────────┼──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────┼───┤
│ Modifiers │ #282a36 │ 40 42 54 │ 231° 15% 18% │ ■ │
│ Alphas │ #44475a │ 68 71 90 │ 232° 14% 31% │ ■ │
│ Legends │ #f8f8f2 │ 248 248 242 │ 60° 30% 96% │ ■ │
│ │ │ │ │ │
│ Pink │ #ff79c6 │ 255 121 198 │ 326° 100% 74% │ ■ │
│ Purple │ #bd93f9 │ 189 147 249 │ 265° 89% 78% │ ■ │
│ Cyan │ #8be9fd │ 139 233 253 │ 191° 97% 77% │ ■ │
│ Yellow │ #f1fa8c │ 241 250 140 │ 65° 92% 76% │ ■ │
│ Green │ #50fa7b │ 80 250 123 │ 135° 94% 65% │ ■ │
│ Red │ #ff5555 │ 255 85 85 │ 0° 100% 67% │ ■ │
└───────────┴──────────┴─────────────┴───────────────┴───┘
FAQ
> ne icon mods avail
> At least not in the base kit
Changelog
┌─────────────────────────────────────────┬──────────────┬────────┐
│ Commit │ Date │ Branch │
├─────────────────────────────────────────┼──────────────┼────────┤
│ feature: added color comparison │ [2019-06-08] │ master │
│ feature: announced vendors │ [2019-05-30] │ master │
│ feature: added feedback form │ [2019-05-22] │ master │
│ fix: added Full HHKB layout support │ [2019-05-22] │ master │
│ (2x R4 1u Ctrl/Alt + 2x R4 1.5u Super) │ │ │
│ feature: added initial IC │ [2019-05-15] │ master │
└─────────────────────────────────────────┴──────────────┴────────┘
More
- Added color comparison [2019-06-08]
- Announced vendors [2019-05-30]
- Added feedback form [2019-05-22]
- Added full HHKB layout support (2x R4 1u Ctrl/Alt + 2x R4 1.5u Super) [2019-05-22]
- Added initial IC [2019-05-15]
TODO
- More renders!
Acknowledgements
- Huge thanks to Oblotzky for advice and suggestions regarding the kits and everything else.
- Shout-out to Qlavier for feedback on the project!
- Big thank you to Dixie for everything!
- Thank you Yuktsi for providing the TGR board models for rendering
- Thank you Kingk22 for the 'Tickle Wickle' renders
All the renders, kit designs, novelties and graphics are done by me, if not stated otherwise.
Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 04 October 2019, 12:54:29
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:28:19
Post by: lee jeong woo on Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:34:26
Post by: Pizza_on_Pineapple on Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:59:33
Post by: art3mis on Fri, 04 October 2019, 15:08:26
Post by: janglad on Fri, 04 October 2019, 15:21:46
Post by: nephlock on Fri, 04 October 2019, 15:56:57
Post by: Starius on Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:12:41
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:21:18
in for base, nightmode and err. can't wait
Post by: Starius on Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:27:45
https://dixiemech.store/products/gmk-dracula
in for base, nightmode and err. can't wait
:thumb:
Post by: norb on Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:48:47
Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:58:17
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here, but where exactly is the link to buy it?
Oops, added the links now.
Post by: Saga on Fri, 04 October 2019, 20:26:03
Post by: maly149 on Fri, 04 October 2019, 21:25:21
Stupid question but can someone tell me how purple the alphas are? I'm slightly colourblind and there's a range where I know I may have an issue but I (obviously) can't tell if it's really, really blue/grey or actually quite purple.
I would say it has a very slight purple tint- but definitely still gray!
Post by: sevenseacat on Fri, 04 October 2019, 22:43:22
I know I said this in Discord already but I think alphas + err + nightmode is going to be a very popular combo - perhaps if this runs again that could be made into a second base kit?
Post by: Saga on Fri, 04 October 2019, 23:15:19
Already put in my order at DailyClack for base, err, nightmode, and highlight 👍
I know I said this in Discord already but I think alphas + err + nightmode is going to be a very popular combo - perhaps if this runs again that could be made into a second base kit?
I definitely added those and Norde to my cart before balking at $300+
Post by: click clack jack on Sat, 05 October 2019, 08:46:25
Post by: blakstealth on Sat, 05 October 2019, 10:38:33
https://www.facebook.com/dixiemech/photos/a.321006258330250/774999656264239/?type=3
Core: 219
Highlight: 121
Nightmode: 75
Whitespace: 75
ERR!: 115
Command: 26
Minify: 30
Localization: 15
Post by: futurecrime on Sat, 05 October 2019, 12:49:19
Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 06 October 2019, 00:32:39
congrats on the massive day 1!Morehttps://www.facebook.com/dixiemech/photos/a.321006258330250/774999656264239/?type=3
Core: 219
Highlight: 121
Nightmode: 75
Whitespace: 75
ERR!: 115
Command: 26
Minify: 30
Localization: 15
(https://i.imgur.com/KsONi3j.png)
Post by: b3nkei on Sun, 06 October 2019, 08:57:29
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 06 October 2019, 10:06:28
50 euros just for the f13 key is going to hurt.
I’m sure I’m not the only person interested in ERR who wouldn’t want the f13 key? Can you split with someone on your side of the Atlantic?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 06 October 2019, 11:13:16
That set is like one huge novelty kit, huh?
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 06 October 2019, 13:00:45
Just noticed the ERR module's MOQ is 250. Is that because of the custom legends?
That set is like one huge novelty kit, huh?
Actual moq is 100. Ideal moq is 250
Post by: geewiz on Sun, 06 October 2019, 13:20:35
50 euros just for the f13 key is going to hurt.
I can ship you mine from Ireland.
Post by: 1391401 on Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:26:48
Post by: Saga on Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:57:10
I'm a simple man: I see a keyset that uses the same color scheme I've come to enjoy using in terminal and i3wm as well as vim style hjkl keys so I buy it.
*cries in Solarized Norde*
Post by: LevelSteam on Sun, 06 October 2019, 17:25:31
Love this colourway and the whole presentation of it. First GMK kit Im going in on for ages. Considering not getting nightmode but then I remember how I didnt get mono mods in Oblivion and ended up spending ages trying to get them aftermarket for a decent price/trade. Better to be safe than sorry I guess. GLWGB.
Crap now I'm worrying if I need those too.
Post by: pikku-allu on Mon, 07 October 2019, 10:47:02
> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/update.tar.gz
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> ERR! Error: outdated proxy numbers
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│ ├── Core --------- 423
│ ├── Highlight ---- 190
│ ├── Nightmode ---- 111
│ ├── Whitespace --- 112
│ ├── Minify -------- 57
│ ├── Localization -- 21
│ ├── Command ------- 54
│ └── ERR! --------- 197
│
└── GB_status_date/
└── October 7th [2019-10-07]
Amazing numbers in the first few days!
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 07 October 2019, 12:08:46
> Starting 'update' ...
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│ ├── Core --------- 423
│ ├── Highlight ---- 190
│ ├── Nightmode ---- 111
│ ├── Whitespace --- 112
│ ├── Minify -------- 57
│ ├── Localization -- 21
│ ├── Command ------- 54
│ └── ERR! --------- 197
│
└── GB_status_date/
└── October 7th [2019-10-07]
Amazing numbers in the first few days!
unreal. glad to be a part of it :thumb:
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 07 October 2019, 14:59:02
More> Starting 'update' ...Amazing numbers in the first few days!
> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/update.tar.gz
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> ERR! Error: outdated proxy numbers
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│ ├── Core --------- 423
│ ├── Highlight ---- 190
│ ├── Nightmode ---- 111
│ ├── Whitespace --- 112
│ ├── Minify -------- 57
│ ├── Localization -- 21
│ ├── Command ------- 54
│ └── ERR! --------- 197
│
└── GB_status_date/
└── October 7th [2019-10-07]
Looks like we're gonna need a bigger graph...
(https://i.imgur.com/SEp9AUx.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/bOERpzv.png)
<-- history to date
Post by: fabryrock on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:22:01
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 07 October 2019, 16:06:49
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 07 October 2019, 16:07:59
Anyone want Minify but not the 2.25u/2.75u split spacebars?
Post by: b3nkei on Mon, 07 October 2019, 17:54:52
50 euros just for the f13 key is going to hurt.
I can ship you mine from Ireland.
Thanks, i'll send you a message if i remember when we get the sets. I'm from Spain :thumb:
Post by: MrFurrior on Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:41:56
Post by: pikku-allu on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:46:12
Localisation kit is pretty pricey for just 4/5 keys I might use. Nearly 20 euros more than other GMK localisation kits?
That's because the MOQ for that is only 50, which is achievable. No profit is being made from that kit either. You could always find someone who'd need other keys to split the kit with.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 08 October 2019, 14:27:21
Post by: sevenseacat on Tue, 08 October 2019, 20:30:35
Post by: jizzaztartist on Wed, 09 October 2019, 07:15:02
Post by: mlnr on Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:28:50
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 09 October 2019, 10:08:52
wait, GMK has MOQs less than 100? and we still couldn't have Colemak??? 😂
If you pool Git, regular, monochrome, and assembly, GMK oblivion sold 3000 kits, and colevrak sold 61 there. I think the 50 MOQ is still hard.
Post by: supermunny on Thu, 10 October 2019, 12:08:16
Post by: steezkeez on Thu, 10 October 2019, 12:22:31
Post by: art3mis on Fri, 11 October 2019, 13:01:37
Anyone interested in splitting the Localization kit? Here's the keys I wouldn't need: https://imgur.com/a/1dhB4I4. Guess I could split the Highlight & Command kits too, I'd be happy with about 1/3 of the keys on those.
The MOQ of 50 will be hard enough to reach as it is :)) everyone who needs it should buy their own xD
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 11 October 2019, 13:08:55
Anyone interested in splitting the Localization kit? Here's the keys I wouldn't need: https://imgur.com/a/1dhB4I4. Guess I could split the Highlight & Command kits too, I'd be happy with about 1/3 of the keys on those.What local are you in?
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 11 October 2019, 13:17:47
Anyone interested in splitting the Localization kit? Here's the keys I wouldn't need: https://imgur.com/a/1dhB4I4. Guess I could split the Highlight & Command kits too, I'd be happy with about 1/3 of the keys on those.What locale are you in?
Edit: sorry for the double post
Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 11 October 2019, 15:58:04
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│ ├── Core --------- 569
│ ├── Highlight ---- 255
│ ├── Nightmode ---- 145
│ ├── Whitespace --- 154
│ ├── Minify -------- 79
│ ├── Localization -- 28
│ ├── Command ------- 74
│ └── ERR! --------- 263
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└── GB_status_date/
└── October 11th [2019-10-11]
We are breaking records left and right!
Enjoy this new render of GMK Dracula on a black TGR Alice:
(https://i.imgur.com/LNwr67u.jpg)
Post by: LXVRGS on Fri, 11 October 2019, 17:09:19
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 11 October 2019, 17:24:32
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 11 October 2019, 22:16:36
More> Starting 'update' ...We are breaking records left and right!
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│ ├── Core --------- 569
│ ├── Highlight ---- 255
│ ├── Nightmode ---- 145
│ ├── Whitespace --- 154
│ ├── Minify -------- 79
│ ├── Localization -- 28
│ ├── Command ------- 74
│ └── ERR! --------- 263
│
└── GB_status_date/
└── October 11th [2019-10-11]
We are breaking records left and right!
Enjoy this new render of GMK Dracula on a black TGR Alice:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LNwr67u.jpg)
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Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 11 October 2019, 23:29:56
Dixie, is this on track to outsell 8008? Or 9009? Congrats on having some giants these last few months.
I'd say yes.
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Post by: leexy on Fri, 11 October 2019, 23:34:42
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 12 October 2019, 00:01:36
Post by: pikku-allu on Sat, 12 October 2019, 04:19:41
Can we have more information on the Rama caps? Are the enamel infill black or matched to the keyset colours?
All the colors on the Rama caps are matched to the keyset colors (as close as possible). The enamel infill on the Eye is matched to the keyset modifier color.
Post by: supermunny on Sat, 12 October 2019, 06:27:47
FinlandAnyone interested in splitting the Localization kit? Here's the keys I wouldn't need: https://imgur.com/a/1dhB4I4. Guess I could split the Highlight & Command kits too, I'd be happy with about 1/3 of the keys on those.What locale are you in?
The MOQ of 50 will be hard enough to reach as it is :)) everyone who needs it should buy their own xDYeah I guess so, I'm just finding it hard to justify spending 300 and only using 30% of the caps :rolleyes:
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:04:00
wait, GMK has MOQs less than 100? and we still couldn't have Colemak???
If you pool Git, regular, monochrome, and assembly, GMK oblivion sold 3000 kits, and colevrak sold 61 there. I think the 50 MOQ is still hard.
the colevrak kit that ran with oblivion only had support for colemak and dvorak. it's not going to do as well as a colevrak+ kit like the one that ran with pulse. Pulse sold 650 kits and 20 colevrak kits. that's 50% more when you do the math. oblivion could have gotten 90+
also mt3 serika ran a colevrak+ kit and hit 70 with the 1500 alpha kits sold (if you include the katakana kit) 250% more than oblivion.
with this on pace for 1500 it'd be nice if we at least tried.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:47:17
People also forget the lost sales to people who would buy all of the other kits along side of colemak, but buy none because there is no support. Even if you only sell 20 colevrak kits, that could mean another 20 base + whatever kits those people buy.wait, GMK has MOQs less than 100? and we still couldn't have Colemak???
If you pool Git, regular, monochrome, and assembly, GMK oblivion sold 3000 kits, and colevrak sold 61 there. I think the 50 MOQ is still hard.
the colevrak kit that ran with oblivion only had support for colemak and dvorak. it's not going to do as well as a colevrak+ kit like the one that ran with pulse. Pulse sold 650 kits and 20 colevrak kits. that's 50% more when you do the math. oblivion could have gotten 90+. with this on pace for 1500 it'd be nice if we at least tried.
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:48:03
People also forget the lost sales to people who would buy all of the other kits along side of colemak, but buy none because there is no support. Even if you only sell 20 colevrak kits, that could mean another 20 base + whatever kits those people buy.wait, GMK has MOQs less than 100? and we still couldn't have Colemak???
If you pool Git, regular, monochrome, and assembly, GMK oblivion sold 3000 kits, and colevrak sold 61 there. I think the 50 MOQ is still hard.
the colevrak kit that ran with oblivion only had support for colemak and dvorak. it's not going to do as well as a colevrak+ kit like the one that ran with pulse. Pulse sold 650 kits and 20 colevrak kits. that's 50% more when you do the math. oblivion could have gotten 90+. with this on pace for 1500 it'd be nice if we at least tried.
+20
Post by: Potatoes on Sat, 12 October 2019, 18:26:15
Post by: kriscables on Sun, 13 October 2019, 19:13:01
Post by: MightyFineShindig on Sun, 13 October 2019, 19:43:18
Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 13 October 2019, 20:04:21
What colour are the legends in the Highlight module?
All the colors are listed in the OP.
Post by: matrixzj on Sun, 13 October 2019, 21:14:50
Is there any plan to add more keys for benefits for gb joiners ? as GMK Metropolis.
Post by: GarrettSucks on Wed, 16 October 2019, 23:00:00
No extras added.
Core: 747
Highlight: 338
Nightmode: 185
Whitespace: 198
ERR!: 341
Command: 89
Minify: 110
Localization: 36
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 17 October 2019, 00:18:44
Just some updated numbers for GH. All kits will be made, if it wasn’t already abundantly clear lol
No extras added.MoreCore: 747
Highlight: 338
Nightmode: 185
Whitespace: 198
ERR!: 341
Command: 89
Minify: 110
Localization: 36
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Post by: apejonk on Thu, 17 October 2019, 09:45:39
congrats for such a great achievement made within 1 week
Is there any plan to add more keys for benefits for gb joiners ? as GMK Metropolis.
Man I would love to have a "Hello, World!" key like Oblivion did. At least it fits with the software theme.
Also in for Base, Highlight, Darkmode and Space.
Post by: ozurr on Fri, 18 October 2019, 13:16:00
Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 18 October 2019, 20:02:29
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└── October 18th [2019-10-18]
Week Two Update Over 800 Core Modules Sold!
Thank you everyone! Seeing such overwhelming support, we might add some extra keys to the kit ;)
In the meantime, enjoy this brand new render of GMK Dracula on a shiny silver En Dash by would :cool:
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Still almost two more weeks left to grab Dracula, the group buy ends Oct 31st!
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└── October 18th [2019-10-18]
Week Two Update — Over 800 Core Modules Sold!
Thank you everyone! Seeing such overwhelming support, we might add some extra keys to the kit ;)
In the meantime, enjoy this brand new render of GMK Dracula on a shiny silver En Dash by would :cool:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RQOIgtV.jpg)
Still almost two more weeks left to grab Dracula, the group buy ends Oct 31st!
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Still going strong:
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Post by: mlev6 on Sun, 20 October 2019, 17:02:00
Post by: CodeMayhem on Wed, 23 October 2019, 01:16:24
Post by: ozurr on Thu, 24 October 2019, 10:46:53
Post by: pikku-allu on Thu, 24 October 2019, 12:40:11
Any updates to the GB numbers/graphs?
Update tomorrow, the core module is just a handful away from 1000!
New render with Core + Nightmode + ERR!:
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Album (https://imgur.com/a/wB5xKKW)
Post by: 8idl on Thu, 24 October 2019, 19:17:43
Post by: heliar_mk on Thu, 24 October 2019, 20:27:08
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 24 October 2019, 23:56:45
If we hit 1000kit， any plan to add some new key in base？
GBs in the past have done this - it would be nice if it happened here. Especially since so many sets will be sold.
Post by: GarrettSucks on Fri, 25 October 2019, 15:40:20
1000 Core Modules Sold!
ONE WEEK LEFT!
Current #s w/o Extras
Core: 1033
Highlight: 463
Nightmode: 248
Whitespace: 273
ERR!: 443
Command: 119
Minify: 153
Localization: 46
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 25 October 2019, 16:22:42
GMK Dracula Week 3 Update
1000 Core Modules Sold!
ONE WEEK LEFT!MoreCurrent #’s w/o Extras
Core: 1033
Highlight: 463
Nightmode: 248
Whitespace: 273
ERR!: 443
Command: 119
Minify: 153
Localization: 46
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Post by: The90sWereRad on Fri, 25 October 2019, 19:45:25
Base + Minify + Dracula x RAMA ERR! Cap & Eye Deskmat
Post by: ryn1x on Sat, 26 October 2019, 00:53:12
Post by: ryn1x on Sat, 26 October 2019, 01:12:48
Post by: ryn1x on Sat, 26 October 2019, 01:19:33
Post by: nappis on Sat, 26 October 2019, 03:31:35
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sat, 26 October 2019, 10:12:18
+1 for Hello, World!
Post by: ptykozoon on Sat, 26 October 2019, 12:51:26
Post by: Wickles on Mon, 28 October 2019, 17:20:51
Post by: pikku-allu on Mon, 28 October 2019, 18:10:57
We are excited to announce that we will be adding 5 keys to the GMK Dracula Core Module at 1500 customer orders! We are currently over 1100!
(https://i.imgur.com/tVX0rDM.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/XoYWXM3.jpg)
GB open for three more days, until October 31st!
Post by: apejonk on Tue, 29 October 2019, 08:03:03
Post by: hyppialonso on Tue, 29 October 2019, 09:11:37
Post by: architones on Tue, 29 October 2019, 09:25:14
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.
For me stepped caps is an aesthetic thing. If definitely is less optimal but in practice I do not notice the difference after adjusting to it.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 29 October 2019, 09:50:05
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.
You know, they didnt have to include any extra keys. Dont act so entitled.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:11:12
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.
They added something for free that you don't need, how terrible this world has become.
Post by: apejonk on Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:14:17
It's not only that I have no need for it, I think the concept of a stepped CTRL is wrong.Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.
They added something for free that you don't need, how terrible this world has become.
Post by: hamilton on Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:18:04
just to have a reference, what did they add for GMK bento and GMK motropolis?
Bento had 3 novelties. Metropolis had a novelty, accent return and arrow keys, 2u shift, 1.25 tab, and 1.75 return
Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:28:33
Yes, these blasphemous heathens and their mortal sin of stepped control. They will burn in the deepest depths of hell for their transgression against divine law.It's not only that I have no need for it, I think the concept of a stepped CTRL is wrong.Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.
They added something for free that you don't need, how terrible this world has become.
Post by: matrixzj on Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:42:59
Post by: geewiz on Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:43:56
Don't want to be a negative nancy but
Another example that “I don’t want to seem THAT THING but...” is always immediately followed by THAT THING.
I for one would love the stepped Ctrl cap because it’s perfect for my G80-11900.
Post by: apejonk on Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:49:37
Amen! Thank you for saying that my friend. Way too many people here seem to disagree sadly :(It's not only that I have no need for it, I think the concept of a stepped CTRL is wrong.Yes, these blasphemous heathens and their mortal sin of stepped control. They will burn in the deepest depths of hell for their transgression against divine law.
Post by: CodeMayhem on Tue, 29 October 2019, 20:43:53
Yes, these blasphemous heathens and their mortal sin of stepped control. They will burn in the deepest depths of hell for their transgression against divine law.It's not only that I have no need for it, I think the concept of a stepped CTRL is wrong.Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.
They added something for free that you don't need, how terrible this world has become.
i'm thinking of using stepped ctrl on my kn2.10² :p
Post by: Starius on Wed, 30 October 2019, 15:19:59
There's just no way I am going to be able to swing this purchase right now.
Great set!
Post by: Emir on Wed, 30 October 2019, 16:28:06
I do hope this gets offered for a second round again in the future.
There's just no way I am going to be able to swing this purchase right now.
Great set!
Luckily for you it doesn't seem like a set that'll terribly difficult to hunt down on the aftermarket due to the sheer amount. :D
Post by: Magnificent Bureaucrat on Thu, 31 October 2019, 12:59:09
Post by: pikku-allu on Thu, 31 October 2019, 18:13:01
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Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 01 November 2019, 15:54:22
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One last chance to grab Dracula! GB extended for ONE MORE DAY! Ends tonight, November 1st Almost 2000 Core Modules Sold!
Absolutely bonkers you guys! Thank you so much everyone, you're amazing! :)
A new render, TGR-910 (black)
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└── November 1st [2019-11-01]
One last chance to grab Dracula! GB extended for ONE MORE DAY! Ends tonight, November 1st — Almost 2000 Core Modules Sold!
Absolutely bonkers you guys! Thank you so much everyone, you're amazing! :)
A new render, TGR-910 (black)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1JTJCsS.jpg)
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Post by: vision-quest on Sat, 02 November 2019, 09:30:16
Post by: tuxsux on Sat, 02 November 2019, 09:40:01
Post by: matrixzj on Sat, 02 November 2019, 10:15:47
Nooooooooooooooo I missed it by a day dangit !
gb is still open
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sat, 02 November 2019, 11:31:51
Post by: jooobe on Sat, 02 November 2019, 20:55:42
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Post by: pikku-allu on Sun, 03 November 2019, 12:35:00
What's the final count? 2000?
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Over 2k! We're announcing numbers later when we have the final count. Thank you so much everyone!
Post by: rora on Sun, 03 November 2019, 13:31:59
: ) :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 03 November 2019, 15:42:15
Post by: BWLR on Tue, 05 November 2019, 07:33:13
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 05 November 2019, 08:23:50
Post by: pikku-allu on Tue, 12 November 2019, 13:37:00
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The final numbers are here at last 3000 Core Modules including extras!
No, that is not a typo. I'm at loss for words. Thank you everyone, I can't wait to see Dracula in use!
Some more good news, the color matching is under way. We have been hard at work for a long time already, and not to worry, we're not matching colors in bedroom lighting.
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└── November 2nd [2019-11-02] [FINAL]
The final numbers are here at last — 3000 Core Modules including extras!
No, that is not a typo. I'm at loss for words. Thank you everyone, I can't wait to see Dracula in use!
Some more good news, the color matching is under way. We have been hard at work for a long time already, and not to worry, we're not matching colors in bedroom lighting.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0xeJpnrWC4XWblEk/giphy.gif)
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Edit: added kit prices
Post by: cekagekh on Tue, 12 November 2019, 16:26:45
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 12 November 2019, 18:50:07
Post by: scoopbb on Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:15:46
Post by: WifeIsGoddess on Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:25:24
"Error kit" also exceeded 1K sales, so do you have any plans to add a red Enter key in "Error kit" to celebrate?
Post by: terrad on Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:26:00
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Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:26:11
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
Post by: scoopbb on Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:38:54
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:55:59
So what doeas the final base kit with all the extra keys look like? Oh and will there be any extra keys in the child kits? There were 1k highlight kits sold!
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The base kit shows all the keys including the extra keys
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 12 November 2019, 21:22:10
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?
Post by: directheatedtriode on Tue, 12 November 2019, 21:42:39
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?
lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 November 2019, 22:24:55
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?
lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.
dvorcol is actually right
some ICs have just been going on for an age, it's not the only indicator of how well a set will sell
and some sets don't even run ICs anymore, and they sell fine
it's hard to predict
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 13 November 2019, 10:46:25
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?
lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.
most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.
for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.
and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.
i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.
Post by: ConfuseBill on Wed, 13 November 2019, 22:21:32
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?
lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.
most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.
for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.
and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.
i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.
Well, that's what a premium hobby is all about.
Enthusiast are seeking the Hype, Color matching, Something rare, One time production and maybe Hard to get.
No one is forcing these enthusiast to join the GB.
Have seen many GB fails because does not met Minimum quantity as well for no specific reason.
There are plenty other option of Low Price ABS keycaps off the shelf with nice colors too.
It's just a preference for this hobby.
Stay Calm and Keep Clacking.
Post by: dohmain on Wed, 13 November 2019, 22:30:00
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?
lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.
most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.
for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.
and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.
i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.
I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.
Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.
Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.
But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.
Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?
I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.
If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.
That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.
Post by: walie on Wed, 13 November 2019, 22:39:27
"spirit of group buys"
lol
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 13 November 2019, 22:41:24
"the current system works too good for the vendors."
lol
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 13 November 2019, 23:28:13
I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.
Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.
Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.
But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.
Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?
I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.
If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.
That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.
let them make fun of you for 2 statements they nitpick and dont agree with but at the end of the day That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000. is all that matters. rely on the customer to get the set made but won't invest themselves unless its a sure thing and then pocket the price breaks too. it is what it is.
Post by: 1391401 on Thu, 14 November 2019, 12:13:13
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 14 November 2019, 12:58:26
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?
lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.
most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.
for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.
and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.
i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.
I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.
Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.
Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.
But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.
Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?
I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.
If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.
That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.
This is why the ideal MOQ exists. It's higher than the production (GMK's) MOQ. Dixie, NovelKeys, etc. set their goal MOQ higher than the GMK MOQ to offer lower initial pricing.
We are past having one, maybe two sets a month barely scraping towards 150 or 250 base units. Sets can easily hit 500+ if designed well and marketed properly as seen here and with many others. The lower price people pay is what the "dropped" price would be at 250, 500+ sets. Vendors are projecting to hit these larger numbers from the start and are regularly hitting them.
It's pointless to set a price at 150/250 with the anticipation of hitting 500+ anyway, it's extra work that's not necessary if the pricing is set for the higher MOQ from the beginning. Once you get into 1000+ units sold you can get into adding extra keys, etc. as Dracula did. It's also not as easy as you likely think to implement a Drop-like system where buyers are charged at the END of the buy, versus when they actually put in their order (the better way to do it, safer, you secure the funds, etc.). Manually refunding 170 orders sure, that's an afternoon - but 2000? - you're kidding me if you think anyone wants to do that buddy.
TL;DR The price drop is built in at the beginning. It saves time and effort on the backend once the buy hits the numbers that the vendor projects at the beginning.
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 14 November 2019, 13:47:13
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?
lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.
most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.
for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.
and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.
i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.
I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.
Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.
Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.
But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.
Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?
I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.
If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.
That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.
This is why the ideal MOQ exists. It's higher than the production (GMK's) MOQ. Dixie, NovelKeys, etc. set their goal MOQ higher than the GMK MOQ to offer lower initial pricing.
We are past having one, maybe two sets a month barely scraping towards 150 or 250 base units. Sets can easily hit 500+ if designed well and marketed properly as seen here and with many others. The lower price people pay is what the "dropped" price would be at 250, 500+ sets. Vendors are projecting to hit these larger numbers from the start and are regularly hitting them.
It's pointless to set a price at 150/250 with the anticipation of hitting 500+ anyway, it's extra work that's not necessary if the pricing is set for the higher MOQ from the beginning. Once you get into 1000+ units sold you can get into adding extra keys, etc. as Dracula did. It's also not as easy as you likely think to implement a Drop-like system where buyers are charged at the END of the buy, versus when they actually put in their order (the better way to do it, safer, you secure the funds, etc.). Manually refunding 170 orders sure, that's an afternoon - but 2000? - you're kidding me if you think anyone wants to do that buddy.
TL;DR The price drop is built in at the beginning. It saves time and effort on the backend once the buy hits the numbers that the vendor projects at the beginning.
There are rumors floating around that Dracula was priced at 250 MOQ. That's what people are upset about.
Post by: geewiz on Thu, 14 November 2019, 13:57:58
There are rumors floating around that Dracula was priced at 250 MOQ. That's what people are upset about.
"We only have rumours to go on but we won't stand for it!" — forums since the inception of the internet. :))
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 14 November 2019, 14:03:39
Seems like an easy rumor to debunk. Not only that, it would shut a lot of people up if it was... and yet, here we areThere are rumors floating around that Dracula was priced at 250 MOQ. That's what people are upset about.
"We only have rumours to go on but we won't stand for it!" forums since the inception of the internet. :))
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 14 November 2019, 14:58:29
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 14 November 2019, 15:37:18
imagine a full time vendor making money
Oh, the humanity! (https://cdn.geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/shocked.gif)
Post by: clik_clak on Thu, 14 November 2019, 15:55:57
imagine a full time vendor making money
I really wish more people actually shared this sentiment.
It's absolutely ridiculous for anyone to expect a business not to make at least a little money on products they sell. Especially a business where selling keyboard-related products is their main source of income.
That $5 more you spent on that keyset allows vendors to move our hobby forward. If you're so upset about the price, either don't buy the product or buy 1 less Starbucks coffee a week.
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 14 November 2019, 16:31:00
You guys make it seem like the vendors end up with no margin if they passed along the price drops, which is not true either.
Let me put it this way. I can't exactly remember which set it was that started to not offer price drops... but IIRC the reasoning for it was that it was too much work to manually refund each purchase. Which I completely understand and agree with.
Nowhere did I say that vendors should sit there and manually refund all those orders. I just merely asked, "Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?"
Lets go back to the reason for getting rid of the price drops: It's too much work.
I totally agree, it is a ton of work and I wouldn't wish that tediousness upon anyone. However, what they are saying here is "It's too much work for me to pass along the price drops, so I'm just going to pocket the money."
$40,000 would go a long way to just explore the possibility of implementing a system for price drops. Instead, it is just pocketed because that's the easy (and profitable) thing to do.
You guys don't agree with me, that's fine. You guys can laugh at me and make fun of me, IDGAF. In the end, I'm just a drop in the ocean... little me not buying future sets will not affect sales at all and my opinion will be buried and forgotten about.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 14 November 2019, 16:50:26
Right. You guys are making it seem like I am saying the vendors don't deserve to make money, which is not what I am saying at all.I just think a lot of people think there is some other pseudo relationship between vendors and buyers here. That's where the issue lies. This is a transactional business relationship. A buyer is only as useful as their wallet to vendors, and vendors are only as useful as the product they are selling. When you start trying to muck about some other pseudo ethics one way or another, things get spicy. The $ value is the only one that matters here. The vendors give the price before a buyer buys. Then the buyer pays. The fact that a vendor is pocketing extra dough doesn't matter because they set that price at the start, and the buyer is the one that acts afterward. When we all just realize this is nothing more but business everything can become really easy.
You guys make it seem like the vendors end up with no margin if they passed along the price drops, which is not true either.
Let me put it this way. I can't exactly remember which set it was that started to not offer price drops... but IIRC the reasoning for it was that it was too much work to manually refund each purchase. Which I completely understand and agree with.
Nowhere did I say that vendors should sit there and manually refund all those orders. I just merely asked, "Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?"
Lets go back to the reason for getting rid of the price drops: It's too much work.
I totally agree, it is a ton of work and I wouldn't wish that tediousness upon anyone. However, what they are saying here is "It's too much work for me to pass along the price drops, so I'm just going to pocket the money."
$40,000 would go a long way to just explore the possibility of implementing a system for price drops. Instead, it is just pocketed because that's the easy (and profitable) thing to do.
You guys don't agree with me, that's fine. You guys can laugh at me and make fun of me, IDGAF. In the end, I'm just a drop in the ocean... little me not buying future sets will not affect sales at all and my opinion will be buried and forgotten about.
Post by: clik_clak on Thu, 14 November 2019, 16:58:09
Right. You guys are making it seem like I am saying the vendors don't deserve to make money, which is not what I am saying at all.
You guys make it seem like the vendors end up with no margin if they passed along the price drops, which is not true either.
Let me put it this way. I can't exactly remember which set it was that started to not offer price drops... but IIRC the reasoning for it was that it was too much work to manually refund each purchase. Which I completely understand and agree with.
Nowhere did I say that vendors should sit there and manually refund all those orders. I just merely asked, "Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?"
Lets go back to the reason for getting rid of the price drops: It's too much work.
I totally agree, it is a ton of work and I wouldn't wish that tediousness upon anyone. However, what they are saying here is "It's too much work for me to pass along the price drops, so I'm just going to pocket the money."
$40,000 would go a long way to just explore the possibility of implementing a system for price drops. Instead, it is just pocketed because that's the easy (and profitable) thing to do.
You guys don't agree with me, that's fine. You guys can laugh at me and make fun of me, IDGAF. In the end, I'm just a drop in the ocean... little me not buying future sets will not affect sales at all and my opinion will be buried and forgotten about.
Question...
Do you go into Wal-mart and ask them what their profit margin is on everything you buy? Do you sit and try to nitpick with a checkout clerk at said Wal-mart because you think the price on that skim milk you're buying is too much? No, of course you don't. It's none of your business what their profit margin is, and the same thing relates to these keysets.
I'm glad these vendors are making $40,000 extra on these sets. If they take even 5% of that and roll it into the next project, then great. Even if they don't, great. Good on them for running a successful business. You should be grateful that there's businesses that allow us to purchase these products in a secure manner that offers you all the consumer protections. I'd much rather toss money to a reputable website instead of some random person that's just storing $40,000 in some paypal account that could be locked up at any time at even just a couple of reports.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 14 November 2019, 17:03:30
God bless capitalismRight. You guys are making it seem like I am saying the vendors don't deserve to make money, which is not what I am saying at all.
You guys make it seem like the vendors end up with no margin if they passed along the price drops, which is not true either.
Let me put it this way. I can't exactly remember which set it was that started to not offer price drops... but IIRC the reasoning for it was that it was too much work to manually refund each purchase. Which I completely understand and agree with.
Nowhere did I say that vendors should sit there and manually refund all those orders. I just merely asked, "Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?"
Lets go back to the reason for getting rid of the price drops: It's too much work.
I totally agree, it is a ton of work and I wouldn't wish that tediousness upon anyone. However, what they are saying here is "It's too much work for me to pass along the price drops, so I'm just going to pocket the money."
$40,000 would go a long way to just explore the possibility of implementing a system for price drops. Instead, it is just pocketed because that's the easy (and profitable) thing to do.
You guys don't agree with me, that's fine. You guys can laugh at me and make fun of me, IDGAF. In the end, I'm just a drop in the ocean... little me not buying future sets will not affect sales at all and my opinion will be buried and forgotten about.
Question...
Do you go into Wal-mart and ask them what their profit margin is on everything you buy? Do you sit and try to nitpick with a checkout clerk at said Wal-mart because you think the price on that skim milk you're buying is too much? No, of course you don't. It's none of your business what their profit margin is, and the same thing relates to these keysets.
I'm glad these vendors are making $40,000 extra on these sets. If they take even 5% of that and roll it into the next project, then great. Even if they don't, great. Good on them for running a successful business. You should be grateful that there's businesses that allow us to purchase these products in a secure manner that offers you all the consumer protections. I'd much rather toss money to a reputable website instead of some random person that's just storing $40,000 in some paypal account that could be locked up at any time at even just a couple of reports.
Post by: radam on Thu, 14 November 2019, 17:43:41
Post by: DukeEsquire on Thu, 14 November 2019, 18:26:16
As far as I know, no one is getting rich off of this hobby. Very few people are able to make this into their full time jobs and, if they can, I very much applaud them because it means they will be able to devote more time and energy into producing higher quality products for us to enjoy.
We should be happy to see vendors going full-time because that's what's best for the hobby in the long run.
Do you think it benefits anyone if people complained hundreds of years ago that watchmakers were making too much profit and they were losing the spirit of the watchmaking hobby?
Post by: ConfuseBill on Thu, 14 November 2019, 21:07:01
Create your own Keycaps Design and Color Blocking, and run your own GB the way you want. Announce your GB to the community, and if the color blocking suit the community Taste you may as well get that 3,000, and you can set to the price you wanted when it reach the number.
Don't just complain, work it out, set your ideal example as a the benchmark for the community.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 14 November 2019, 21:15:09
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking
Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?
this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check
So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?
lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.
most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.
for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.
and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.
i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.
I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.
Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.
Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.
But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.
Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?
I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.
If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.
That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.
i don't understand how it's a bad thing that vendors are making money
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 14 November 2019, 21:28:17
People that complain about lack of price drops can vote with their wallets and not join group buys. Perhaps they will enjoy the secondary market prices instead!People don't understand economics or capitalism anymore. They just want to be pampered and think the world revolves around them
As far as I know, no one is getting rich off of this hobby. Very few people are able to make this into their full time jobs and, if they can, I very much applaud them because it means they will be able to devote more time and energy into producing higher quality products for us to enjoy.
We should be happy to see vendors going full-time because that's what's best for the hobby in the long run.
Do you think it benefits anyone if people complained hundreds of years ago that watchmakers were making too much profit and they were losing the spirit of the watchmaking hobby?
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 14 November 2019, 22:12:05
Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.
I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.
There will be no more from me on this topic.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 14 November 2019, 22:45:37
Who would've thought a bunch of consumers could be so anti-consumer?
Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.
I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.
There will be no more from me on this topic.
you defintely were not around when we were ****ing constantly getting scammed by people who showed up and ran like one GB and ran off with the money without us every getting a product
it's not anti consumer to want what you pay for to arrive, and to pay a premium to avoid the classic hassle that normally happens in GBs
i have the data to back up that vendors are good for the community, but i don't imagine i need to show it to you
you aren't incorrect in your assessment that yes, we're paying a lot, but if you can do the same job just as well, why don't you just do it instead of complaining on a keyboard ****posting forum?
and besides: drop gets better pricing from GMK than non-drop vendors
and non-drop vendors generally price with a certain MOQ in mind, which is why we're seeing a lot more sets at 500 MOQ lately, even though GMK's MOQ hasn't moved from 250 for sets with custom colors
but really, your argument that we should have more price drops isn't necessarily incorrect, just mildly uninformed
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 14 November 2019, 23:00:15
Who would've thought a bunch of consumers could be so anti-consumer?
Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.
I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.
There will be no more from me on this topic.
you defintely were not around when we were ****ing constantly getting scammed by people who showed up and ran like one GB and ran off with the money without us every getting a product
it's not anti consumer to want what you pay for to arrive, and to pay a premium to avoid the classic hassle that normally happens in GBs
i have the data to back up that vendors are good for the community, but i don't imagine i need to show it to you
you aren't incorrect in your assessment that yes, we're paying a lot, but if you can do the same job just as well, why don't you just do it instead of complaining on a keyboard ****posting forum?
and besides: drop gets better pricing from GMK than non-drop vendors
and non-drop vendors generally price with a certain MOQ in mind, which is why we're seeing a lot more sets at 500 MOQ lately, even though GMK's MOQ hasn't moved from 250 for sets with custom colors
but really, your argument that we should have more price drops isn't necessarily incorrect, just mildly uninformed
Dammit. Seriously last one because the random runner vs vendor argument came up again...
I wasn't comparing individual runners to the vendors. I'm sure we all remember the days when vendors did give price drops and that really didn't lower the level of service the vendors put out.
And you're right, I don't have all the data... I only see what is posted publicly... and publicly I see about $40,000 that could be used to, at least, explore the possibility of implementing a system to bring back the drops.
Like you said, I'm not necessarily incorrect. Which is where I think some exploration would come into play.
The end. For real.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 14 November 2019, 23:33:44
Who would've thought a bunch of consumers could be so anti-consumer?
Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.
I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.
There will be no more from me on this topic.
you defintely were not around when we were ****ing constantly getting scammed by people who showed up and ran like one GB and ran off with the money without us every getting a product
it's not anti consumer to want what you pay for to arrive, and to pay a premium to avoid the classic hassle that normally happens in GBs
i have the data to back up that vendors are good for the community, but i don't imagine i need to show it to you
you aren't incorrect in your assessment that yes, we're paying a lot, but if you can do the same job just as well, why don't you just do it instead of complaining on a keyboard ****posting forum?
and besides: drop gets better pricing from GMK than non-drop vendors
and non-drop vendors generally price with a certain MOQ in mind, which is why we're seeing a lot more sets at 500 MOQ lately, even though GMK's MOQ hasn't moved from 250 for sets with custom colors
but really, your argument that we should have more price drops isn't necessarily incorrect, just mildly uninformed
Dammit. Seriously last one because the random runner vs vendor argument came up again...
I wasn't comparing individual runners to the vendors. I'm sure we all remember the days when vendors did give price drops and that really didn't lower the level of service the vendors put out.
And you're right, I don't have all the data... I only see what is posted publicly... and publicly I see about $40,000 that could be used to, at least, explore the possibility of implementing a system to bring back the drops.
Like you said, I'm not necessarily incorrect. Which is where I think some exploration would come into play.
The end. For real.
yes but running a business costs money
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 14 November 2019, 23:38:20
So... The buyers deserve the 40k, not the vendor? Why would they moq price drops when profits are rocketing? What is a vendor's incentive to do that, especially when they almost break 2k base kits at the price they hadWho would've thought a bunch of consumers could be so anti-consumer?
Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.
I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.
There will be no more from me on this topic.
you defintely were not around when we were ****ing constantly getting scammed by people who showed up and ran like one GB and ran off with the money without us every getting a product
it's not anti consumer to want what you pay for to arrive, and to pay a premium to avoid the classic hassle that normally happens in GBs
i have the data to back up that vendors are good for the community, but i don't imagine i need to show it to you
you aren't incorrect in your assessment that yes, we're paying a lot, but if you can do the same job just as well, why don't you just do it instead of complaining on a keyboard ****posting forum?
and besides: drop gets better pricing from GMK than non-drop vendors
and non-drop vendors generally price with a certain MOQ in mind, which is why we're seeing a lot more sets at 500 MOQ lately, even though GMK's MOQ hasn't moved from 250 for sets with custom colors
but really, your argument that we should have more price drops isn't necessarily incorrect, just mildly uninformed
Dammit. Seriously last one because the random runner vs vendor argument came up again...
I wasn't comparing individual runners to the vendors. I'm sure we all remember the days when vendors did give price drops and that really didn't lower the level of service the vendors put out.
And you're right, I don't have all the data... I only see what is posted publicly... and publicly I see about $40,000 that could be used to, at least, explore the possibility of implementing a system to bring back the drops.
Like you said, I'm not necessarily incorrect. Which is where I think some exploration would come into play.
The end. For real.
Post by: befbef on Fri, 15 November 2019, 01:53:19
btw the extra keycaps we get from this gb are really disappointing. I know they don't have to add any exras at all. I guess very few will have a use for them. Was hoping for a simple accent kit, only esc and enter everybody could use. If they would have been introduced in the ic or from the beginning of the gb, participants would have had the chance trying to convince the runner to change these.
Post by: euphxenos on Fri, 15 November 2019, 02:19:21
When I consider joining a group buy, part of the decision is how much I like the set. Part of it is how much it's priced at. Part of it is what I think of the vendor.
Post by: noorejji on Fri, 15 November 2019, 03:31:09
Anyway, congratulations with a successfull GB.
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 15 November 2019, 03:48:16
Is $20+ cost drop at 3000 units justify the risk? Maybe. Maybe not.
In any case, I don't think anyone did this before. They took the risk. Let them enjoy the reward if successful.
5 extra keys at 1500 seem pretty good. 5 extra keys at 2000 seem pretty OK.
3000 is not worth mentioning since vendors took it there.
All in all, this GB was fantastic. It was really buttoned down from the very beginning. I don't think I've seen comprehensive color comparison before.
Don't let little glitch get in the way. Just have some fun! :cool:
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 15 November 2019, 03:53:30
I don't care about saving 5-20 bucks and am happy to support vendors. But it was more fun watching the sales numbers with price drops. imo a good solution would be introducing extra keycaps per 1000/1500/2000... instead of price drops.
Great idea! Few more extra keys to celebrate 3000 would have a perfect finishing touch. :thumb:
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 15 November 2019, 07:41:57
I don't see why it's such a contentious suggestion. The rebuttal about the vendors deserving the money rings hollow when this very practice is employed by the most successful keycap gb vendor out there (Drop). If they can have a highly successful keycap gb business *and* offer price breaks as the quantity ordered increases, then other vendors should be able to do that as well. One thing that really sets Drop apart is that they've invested more heavily than others in building their site, including the tools needed to handle price breaks. Dohmain makes a very good point that the windfall from a highly successful group buy like GMK Dracula could be used by the vendor to build the automation they need to do make it happen for themselves. It represents an opportunity for the vendor. If the vendor chooses to reinvest those profits in their business, then this could be something that would set that vendor apart from others in a very positive way on future group buys. I like Dixie Mech. I'm all in favor of them giving everyone more of an incentive to buy from them. It seems like it would be a win/win for all involved.This 'loyalty' is only relevant when there are more than one vender per locale per set. Just because a vendor can do something doesn't mean they should or will. Their only obligation is to take your money and ship you a kit. If sets are sold at multiple vendors per locale, that's when buyers and vendors both need to start getting picky. Until then, they don't have to do anything
When I consider joining a group buy, part of the decision is how much I like the set. Part of it is how much it's priced at. Part of it is what I think of the vendor.
Post by: WHAT!? on Fri, 15 November 2019, 08:28:25
A choice was made.
Now it would be nice if someone out of the goodness of their hearts decided to refund some of that cash so we can live the dream with a little extra jingle in our pocket, but we are absolutely not entitled to such. We agreed up front with no guarantee of any adjustments on the back end. If its too rich for your blood up front, don't pay the cost. Abstain. Eventually when enough people feel the same the prices will have to come down in order to meet the market value of the product.
That's how I see it anyway.
That said its too bad we're all ****ting all over OP's celebratory mood. I'll be excited to see my set show up. First GMK buy in more than a year for me. First one period that I found through this site. As long as I receive my product I'll be happy.
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 15 November 2019, 09:43:36
Vendors and designers making money is a good thing for super niche hobbies like this. It allows them the take risks and bring projects to life that otherwise would never happen.
We know what prices are up front. There is not fraud. There is no trickery.
Post by: euphxenos on Fri, 15 November 2019, 11:25:35
I don't see why it's such a contentious suggestion. The rebuttal about the vendors deserving the money rings hollow when this very practice is employed by the most successful keycap gb vendor out there (Drop). If they can have a highly successful keycap gb business *and* offer price breaks as the quantity ordered increases, then other vendors should be able to do that as well. One thing that really sets Drop apart is that they've invested more heavily than others in building their site, including the tools needed to handle price breaks. Dohmain makes a very good point that the windfall from a highly successful group buy like GMK Dracula could be used by the vendor to build the automation they need to do make it happen for themselves. It represents an opportunity for the vendor. If the vendor chooses to reinvest those profits in their business, then this could be something that would set that vendor apart from others in a very positive way on future group buys. I like Dixie Mech. I'm all in favor of them giving everyone more of an incentive to buy from them. It seems like it would be a win/win for all involved.This 'loyalty' is only relevant when there are more than one vender per locale per set. Just because a vendor can do something doesn't mean they should or will. Their only obligation is to take your money and ship you a kit. If sets are sold at multiple vendors per locale, that's when buyers and vendors both need to start getting picky. Until then, they don't have to do anything
When I consider joining a group buy, part of the decision is how much I like the set. Part of it is how much it's priced at. Part of it is what I think of the vendor.
Nope, you've missed my point. On some group buys (not this buy, and not this vendor -- I like this set, I like Dixie Mech, and I ordered GMK Dracula), my thought process is "Do I want this set? Yes. Do I want this set enough to buy it from an annoying vendor who seems to have fulfillment problems every time and who I will once again regret giving my money? No, not this time." There are vendors who make me less likely to buy a set I want, just because the vendor is annoying to deal with. There are vendors I will not buy from under any circumstances because they have done something particularly egregious in a past buy. So even when there is only one vendor per locale (or even just one vendor period), who that vendor is factors into whether I'm buying any given set. I have stayed out of multiple group buys that I wanted just because of the choice of vendor, and I'm sure I will do so again in the future.
Post by: Araex on Fri, 15 November 2019, 17:34:06
Like some others pointed out before, the extra key choices are more disappointing. Extra accents (like Metropolis) would've been nice; it rewards the early buyers with extras that they can use. Extra compatibility keys are essentially worthless to the early buyers (they wouldn't have bought them if their keyboards are incompatible), and its purpose was to get more buyers to buy in.
Post by: WHAT!? on Wed, 27 November 2019, 07:43:03
Post by: BWLR on Wed, 27 November 2019, 08:55:40
Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:17:02
Yeah same, would love to hear how it's progressing. Especially for us first-time GB'ers.
So any updates since the group buy ended? It's been crickets on this end.
Bruh, it's been less then a month since GB ended lol
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:19:29
There aren't as many production milestones as in keyboard GB's so not much to update about.
Post by: kokugatsu on Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:32:47
Yeah same, would love to hear how it's progressing. Especially for us first-time GB'ers.They won't start colour matching or production until Q1/Q2 next year, there's a big queue ahead of Dracula at GMK right now
It's gonna be like this for a couple more months, better get used to it brother
Post by: BWLR on Wed, 27 November 2019, 10:28:49
Post by: WHAT!? on Wed, 27 November 2019, 10:50:38
Post by: HighOnBuffs on Sat, 07 December 2019, 16:20:35
I completely fell in love with this set! Will there be extras made for people who missed thegroupbuy or is there any other way to aquire the core set without mechmarket?
BEST SET EVER
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 07 December 2019, 16:54:01
Post by: DukeEsquire on Sat, 07 December 2019, 23:05:02
Hi so i recently got into customs and am building my first right now.
I completely fell in love with this set! Will there be extras made for people who missed thegroupbuy or is there any other way to aquire the core set without mechmarket?
BEST SET EVER
Every vendor is going to have a ton of extras and people will also be selling on mechmarket. You'll be able to get one without too much markup.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 20 January 2020, 09:56:37
Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 02 February 2020, 09:46:10
Has anyone mentioned/thinking about dark alphas add-on?
The alphas are dark already...?
Post by: CodeMonkeyX on Sun, 02 February 2020, 11:43:25
Post by: ivu on Thu, 13 February 2020, 15:57:40
Highly appreciated if someone is willing to help me out ;)
Post by: sirpew on Fri, 10 April 2020, 18:39:28
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 11 April 2020, 08:23:38
Is there a discord to watch for updates?Updates should be made here.
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 11 April 2020, 15:59:06
Post by: wil on Tue, 21 April 2020, 19:20:28
Post by: Starius on Tue, 21 April 2020, 20:35:19
Instant sadness. 😱
Post by: pikku-allu on Wed, 22 April 2020, 05:34:44
Is there a discord to watch for updates?
Dixie Mech Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/KaZjphH
We are still waiting for R2 color samples from GMK (getting R2 of modifier base, pink, purple, yellow, and green). Taking much longer than usual due to other delays and the situation in general I'm assuming.
Here are photos of the R1 samples: https://imgur.com/a/hlQj15F
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Here are photos of the R1 samples: https://imgur.com/a/hlQj15F
They look amazing but the green one, is not too bright? ;D
Post by: pikku-allu on Thu, 23 April 2020, 03:58:08
They look amazing but the green one, is not too bright? ;D
We requested a more pale green for the R2 sample :thumb:
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 16:10:28
Is there a discord to watch for updates?
Dixie Mech Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/KaZjphH
We are still waiting for R2 color samples from GMK (getting R2 of modifier base, pink, purple, yellow, and green). Taking much longer than usual due to other delays and the situation in general I'm assuming.
Here are photos of the R1 samples: https://imgur.com/a/hlQj15F
The alphas are totally off...? Too blue and way too bright, or am I crazy?
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 24 April 2020, 16:14:11
Post by: badboy731 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 16:17:08
Is there a discord to watch for updates?
Dixie Mech Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/KaZjphH
We are still waiting for R2 color samples from GMK (getting R2 of modifier base, pink, purple, yellow, and green). Taking much longer than usual due to other delays and the situation in general I'm assuming.
Here are photos of the R1 samples: https://imgur.com/a/hlQj15F
The alphas are totally off...? Too blue and way too bright, or am I crazy?
Not crazy. I see what you are talking about. Perhaps we will see more sample pictures in the time coming
Post by: XUR on Sat, 25 April 2020, 02:26:08
Post by: nappis on Sat, 25 April 2020, 02:52:55
Alphas and mods are not right. Mods and alphas have too much saturation and value (brightness). I took HSV values of the colors listed in IC and increased both saturation and value by 10-20 -> got colors like in the received samples.
The alphas are totally off...? Too blue and way too bright, or am I crazy?
Not crazy. I see what you are talking about. Perhaps we will see more sample pictures in the time coming
Also red and green should be more "washed".
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 25 April 2020, 08:53:07
After getting into programming Dracula really got into my heart ;)
Post by: LevelSteam on Sat, 25 April 2020, 12:33:29
That lights pretty bright to make N9 grey look that light.
Yeah agreed. Also Oblivion looks way more washed out than it does IRL. I took a shot of my boards with Oblivion and Nines (N9 based set) in natural daylight inside to compare if it helps.
Post by: peterg on Sat, 25 April 2020, 21:58:03
Post by: Magas on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:46:45
Im messaging here as Im unfortunately late to the party. I was just going to put out that if ANYONE is feeling the crunch or doesnt want to be a part of this group buy anymore I would gladly take the kits off your hands!
Im looking for these kits mainly but will accept everything but the localization kit.
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Post by: Tyson on Fri, 08 May 2020, 13:08:27
Hello!
Im messaging here as Im unfortunately late to the party. I was just going to put out that if ANYONE is feeling the crunch or doesnt want to be a part of this group buy anymore I would gladly take the kits off your hands!
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Post by: Magas on Fri, 08 May 2020, 14:44:34
I hope that you're staying safe!
Post by: solomonshv on Sun, 10 May 2020, 05:45:29
Hello!
I’m messaging here as I’m unfortunately late to the party. I was just going to put out that if ANYONE is feeling the crunch or doesn’t want to be a part of this group buy anymore I would gladly take the kits off your hands!
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dailyclack still has the core set available. i think they marked the core up a little, but you can still buy it. https://dailyclack.com/products/gmk-dracc?variant=30267216461866
prices are in AUD. converted to USD, with shipping, it's $180.
daily clack is an AU reseller, but they ship to the US for a very reasonable price. i'm in the US, i'm thinking of buying the kit from them.
Post by: itsmartin on Sun, 10 May 2020, 08:54:11
GB price is available for the GB, pre order price is slightly more and available until it ships, and then in stock price is slightly more again but is immediate availability, if there are any left at that point.
Its just a different method for selling extras, rather than waiting until the GB ships to everyone they allow you to purchase extras in advance.
I think at one point they had most kits but seems like most are gone.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 13 May 2020, 19:16:30
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 13 May 2020, 19:46:45
patiently waiting
Only six more months of color matching!
Post by: LevelSteam on Thu, 14 May 2020, 07:42:52
patiently waiting
Only six more months of color matching!
I'd rather wait for the correct colors than end up with a ****ed up set like gmk necro or solorized dark.
Post by: Magas on Thu, 14 May 2020, 09:56:28
Hello!
Im messaging here as Im unfortunately late to the party. I was just going to put out that if ANYONE is feeling the crunch or doesnt want to be a part of this group buy anymore I would gladly take the kits off your hands!
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Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 14 May 2020, 11:55:48
patiently waiting
Only six more months of color matching!
I'd rather wait for the correct colors than end up with a ****ed up set like gmk necro or solorized dark.
Yeah, nobody wants that even if it takes nine more months of color matching.
Post by: _PixelNinja on Thu, 14 May 2020, 15:30:53
Im messaging here as Im unfortunately late to the party. I was just going to put out that if ANYONE is feeling the crunch or doesnt want to be a part of this group buy anymore I would gladly take the kits off your hands!
For what it's worth, there will be extras.
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Thu, 14 May 2020, 15:41:16
For what it's worth, there will be extras.
Aren't extras usually just the base kits though?
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 14 May 2020, 17:06:45
For what it's worth, there will be extras.
Aren't extras usually just the base kits though?
Other kits will likely be available, but having base kit out of proportion to the other kits relative to the number ordered is probably fair to say. If I was a vendor I probably wouldn't want to have to be stuck with just child kits...
Post by: Nivengoh on Fri, 15 May 2020, 12:50:51
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 15 May 2020, 13:21:02
For what it's worth, there will be extras.
Aren't extras usually just the base kits though?
Other kits will likely be available, but having base kit out of proportion to the other kits relative to the number ordered is probably fair to say. If I was a vendor I probably wouldn't want to have to be stuck with just child kits...
very normal for extras of child kits to be ordered in smaller quantities
cannot give a definitive answer as i'm not involved, but yeah
Any news on Dracula? We are already on mid May and hope that OP has some new for us by then, its already been 6mths since the GB.
there's a pandemic on and GMK wasn't producing for a bit (afaik) so that probably threw a delay in
i'm sure there will be updates soon
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 15 May 2020, 13:38:20
Any news on Dracula? We are already on mid May and hope that OP has some new for us by then, its already been 6mths since the GB.
Color matching for other sets has taken months for one round of it where it used to be much faster pre-Covid. I think it's been two months for GMK crimson cadet. Meanwhile, the new GMK trays have plenty of issues, and GMK shipped sandstorm to Krelbit and left out the child kits and didn't mention it. I'd expect delays at each level of logistics. Generally, I think the time between info from GMK to set designer or vendor and then transmitted to us is under 48hrs. That there's months between updates, not a day or two, is on GMK and asking here isn't gonna get you new info.
Post by: LevelSteam on Fri, 15 May 2020, 13:42:08
Nevermind, just found them myself. Oh well, so long as the caps don't get damaged that's the important part to me.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 15 May 2020, 13:44:41
New GMK trays?
being discussed here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102364.50
relative to many users having keys fall out of the tray during shipping or the tray breaking. Unclear the number it affects, as I assume if you had nothing wrong you probably didn't post a picture of your tray working perfectly...
Post by: irad100 on Wed, 20 May 2020, 10:19:38
1. What does it mean to wait for extras? Where are they going to be sold?
2. What is the approximate time frame for them to be available? about one month or six months?
3. What should I do if I want to get this set (was not part of the group buy)? Should I just Pre Order the Set from Daily Clack like solomonshv have suggested?
Post by: iaman on Wed, 20 May 2020, 11:11:43
Sorry for the ignorance, but I have some questions:1. When the vendors are done fulfilling orders from the group buy phase, they will sell extras that were ordered.
1. What does it mean to wait for extras? Where are they going to be sold?
2. What is the approximate time frame for them to be available? about one month or six months?
3. What should I do if I want to get this set (was not part of the group buy)? Should I just Pre Order the Set from Daily Clack like solomonshv have suggested?
2. Time frame is generally right after fulfillment of GB, so within a month of that.
3. Wait for extras/mechmarket, or if DC is the vendor for your area try through them.
Post by: Hell-es on Wed, 20 May 2020, 13:50:31
Just stick to this thread and register for your local vendors newsletter
Post by: tonyjones on Fri, 22 May 2020, 19:33:55
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 22 May 2020, 21:41:16
The most amped up set of 2020
Best color matched set of 2021.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 24 May 2020, 14:22:41
patiently waiting
Only six more months of color matching!
Haha, GMK seems to be slow now anyway... just need to be patient for a good set to arrive at the door I guess.
Post by: treminaor on Sun, 24 May 2020, 19:40:58
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I reached out to GMK asking why these were taking so long and they said they are waiting on two more samples and then they will send them to us.
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Post by: GarrettSucks on Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:18:00
I wanted to pop in for an update on the color matching since weve been in this phase for an abnormally long time. I post updates every single week on every project on our news page which is linked under my profile pic here on GH on the left. However weve been getting a lot of uncertainty from people thinking something is wrong so I want to clear that up.
We have only received two rounds of color samples since October. These samples are only supposed to take 3-4 weeks for each round. They are taking 3-4 months. There is no more of a delay in colors in our end as any other set in the past. GMK Mizu last summer got three rounds of samples in 3 months. So its just a backlog at the plastic supplier because they had to completely shut down for covid. We have received all but two of the Round 2 color samples and we will be sending those to Pikku for him to review for us to make the decisions on those colors.
Colors that have been approved:
Blue
Red
Colors that we have received a second round of:
Purple
Yellow
Pink
Mods
Colors we are waiting to receive second round of:
Green
Alphas (were originally approved but we decided to get another round just to be certain they were right)
We will keep you updated on which colors have been approved after Pikku sees them and we discuss.
Best,
Garrett
Post by: fabijolo on Fri, 26 June 2020, 00:37:08
Hello people,
I wanted to pop in for an update on the color matching since weve been in this phase for an abnormally long time. I post updates every single week on every project on our news page which is linked under my profile pic here on GH on the left. However weve been getting a lot of uncertainty from people thinking something is wrong so I want to clear that up.
We have only received two rounds of color samples since October. These samples are only supposed to take 3-4 weeks for each round. They are taking 3-4 months. There is no more of a delay in colors in our end as any other set in the past. GMK Mizu last summer got three rounds of samples in 3 months. So its just a backlog at the plastic supplier because they had to completely shut down for covid. We have received all but two of the Round 2 color samples and we will be sending those to Pikku for him to review for us to make the decisions on those colors.
Colors that have been approved:
Blue
Red
Colors that we have received a second round of:
Purple
Yellow
Pink
Mods
Colors we are waiting to receive second round of:
Green
Alphas (were originally approved but we decided to get another round just to be certain they were right)
We will keep you updated on which colors have been approved after Pikku sees them and we discuss.
Best,
Garrett
Post by: Chozo Ghost on Fri, 03 July 2020, 13:27:48
I sincerely hope they didn't skimp on the color-matching phase, seeing as how it was in that phase for like...an obscene amount of months. GMK Terra went through this same song and dance, and its samples have been sent out to its designer now as well.
Two birds, one stone and all that.
Post by: CrazyNun on Tue, 07 July 2020, 08:26:39
Hello people,
I wanted to pop in for an update on the color matching since weve been in this phase for an abnormally long time. I post updates every single week on every project on our news page which is linked under my profile pic here on GH on the left. However weve been getting a lot of uncertainty from people thinking something is wrong so I want to clear that up.
We have only received two rounds of color samples since October. These samples are only supposed to take 3-4 weeks for each round. They are taking 3-4 months. There is no more of a delay in colors in our end as any other set in the past. GMK Mizu last summer got three rounds of samples in 3 months. So its just a backlog at the plastic supplier because they had to completely shut down for covid. We have received all but two of the Round 2 color samples and we will be sending those to Pikku for him to review for us to make the decisions on those colors.
Colors that have been approved:
Blue
Red
Colors that we have received a second round of:
Purple
Yellow
Pink
Mods
Colors we are waiting to receive second round of:
Green
Alphas (were originally approved but we decided to get another round just to be certain they were right)
We will keep you updated on which colors have been approved after Pikku sees them and we discuss.
Best,
Garrett
I just ordered a deskmat, any news on them?
Post by: Nivengoh on Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:35:14
Hello people,
I wanted to pop in for an update on the color matching since weve been in this phase for an abnormally long time. I post updates every single week on every project on our news page which is linked under my profile pic here on GH on the left. However weve been getting a lot of uncertainty from people thinking something is wrong so I want to clear that up.
We have only received two rounds of color samples since October. These samples are only supposed to take 3-4 weeks for each round. They are taking 3-4 months. There is no more of a delay in colors in our end as any other set in the past. GMK Mizu last summer got three rounds of samples in 3 months. So its just a backlog at the plastic supplier because they had to completely shut down for covid. We have received all but two of the Round 2 color samples and we will be sending those to Pikku for him to review for us to make the decisions on those colors.
Colors that have been approved:
Blue
Red
Colors that we have received a second round of:
Purple
Yellow
Pink
Mods
Colors we are waiting to receive second round of:
Green
Alphas (were originally approved but we decided to get another round just to be certain they were right)
We will keep you updated on which colors have been approved after Pikku sees them and we discuss.
Best,
Garrett
It's been 3 weeks, any update so far???
Post by: keyboardkrill on Mon, 13 July 2020, 10:32:47
Hello people,
I wanted to pop in for an update on the color matching since weve been in this phase for an abnormally long time. I post updates every single week on every project on our news page which is linked under my profile pic here on GH on the left. However weve been getting a lot of uncertainty from people thinking something is wrong so I want to clear that up.
We have only received two rounds of color samples since October. These samples are only supposed to take 3-4 weeks for each round. They are taking 3-4 months. There is no more of a delay in colors in our end as any other set in the past. GMK Mizu last summer got three rounds of samples in 3 months. So its just a backlog at the plastic supplier because they had to completely shut down for covid. We have received all but two of the Round 2 color samples and we will be sending those to Pikku for him to review for us to make the decisions on those colors.
Colors that have been approved:
Blue
Red
Colors that we have received a second round of:
Purple
Yellow
Pink
Mods
Colors we are waiting to receive second round of:
Green
Alphas (were originally approved but we decided to get another round just to be certain they were right)
We will keep you updated on which colors have been approved after Pikku sees them and we discuss.
Best,
Garrett
It's been 3 weeks, any update so far???
There was an update on the Dixie website for 7/10;
https://dixiemech.com/news/7-10-2020
Post by: Joshimitsu on Mon, 13 July 2020, 11:03:22
Post by: elmo on Mon, 13 July 2020, 14:17:48
Anyone in UK got a spare "minify" kit they want to sell on, or trade for ERR/whitespace kits?
This groupbuy hasn't shipped yet so nobody has this set. And selling groupbuy spots is not allowed.
Post by: Cloakedbug on Mon, 13 July 2020, 20:30:20
For the R1 samples, honestly both red/green seem too warm (saturation maybe). The pastels are cohesive with each other really well (and are farther down on the cool spectrum).
Post by: bloodparticle on Tue, 14 July 2020, 05:52:25
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 14 July 2020, 19:33:26
Hoping for a second round... (T＿T)
Just buy extras.
Post by: BAS1C on Thu, 16 July 2020, 18:30:55
Post by: tonyjones on Thu, 16 July 2020, 22:46:18
Post by: poodude on Sun, 02 August 2020, 21:08:19
Post by: leexy on Sun, 02 August 2020, 22:39:32
Post by: wonderfulrobot on Mon, 03 August 2020, 14:26:04
Post by: Buster69 on Mon, 03 August 2020, 19:21:27
All jokes aside, hopefully they will get this set perfect and we will get a real update and ETA soon. Hold fast gentleman.
Post by: BAS1C on Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:53:02
Bets on which will come first, Dracula or a vaccine?
All jokes aside, hopefully they will get this set perfect and we will get a real update and ETA soon. Hold fast gentleman.
idk... but if i get vaccine first:
WWT Vaccine, WTTF GMK Dracula
Post by: Cloakedbug on Sun, 09 August 2020, 04:08:36
Best color matched set of 2022
They hated him, for he spoke the truth.
Post by: WHAT!? on Tue, 18 August 2020, 08:51:09
(lol)
Post by: tonyjones on Tue, 18 August 2020, 10:39:06
Post by: geistmate on Thu, 20 August 2020, 10:36:31
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 20 August 2020, 11:33:14
Damn I should have grabbed a minify set. Hopefully it's not impossible to get extras, when they ever come out.
Not when, but if.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 23 August 2020, 12:02:33
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 23 August 2020, 12:56:06
Do the deskmats rely on colour matching? I only ordered those and I wonder when those ship.US Deskmats have started shipping. I'm getting my Dracula Deskmat delivered tommorrow from Dixie :thumb:
Post by: DukeEsquire on Sun, 23 August 2020, 20:40:21
Post by: McDonutz on Mon, 24 August 2020, 05:43:57
Post by: peterg on Mon, 24 August 2020, 06:02:28
Post by: hyppialonso on Mon, 24 August 2020, 06:25:36
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 25 August 2020, 07:00:43
I wonder what is taking so long. All the other GMK sets have no issues right?
I won't pretend to know, but if it's a color matching issue then I'm OK to wait. I'm happy with my 8008 set but I could be a lot happier.
Post by: pikku-allu on Tue, 25 August 2020, 07:17:47
The amount of custom colors surely has an effect on how long the color matching takes, but the actual biggest delay has been caused on GMK's end, and likely the factory supplying them plastic due to COVID-19, or so I've heard. Keep in mind I got my hands on round 2 samples only at the beginning of last month (8th of July to be precise). It took them around 4 months to get us R1 samples, and another 3 months for the R2 samples :/
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 25 August 2020, 09:05:55
Don't you guys worry, the color matching process is well under way and we are doing everything we possibly can to get the colors just right. The current samples are being measured for accuracy by a third party right now.
The amount of custom colors surely has an effect on how long the color matching takes, but the actual biggest delay has been caused on GMK's end, and likely the factory supplying them plastic due to COVID-19, or so I've heard. Keep in mind I got my hands on round 2 samples only at the beginning of last month (8th of July to be precise). It took them around 4 months to get us R1 samples, and another 3 months for the R2 samples :/
Thanks for the update. I appreciate your dedication to getting the colors just right.
Can you specify to GMK to double or triple check the QC on the spacebars? Almost every set that's come post-covid has had bent spacebars, and at this rate I'm really to just start buying pbt and saving half my cash...
Post by: DuellM on Wed, 26 August 2020, 15:27:01
Wait, have the Rama caps shipped already? I hope not, because I haven't received anything yet!
Yep
(https://i.imgur.com/dHe8d7W.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/a02XDB4.jpg)
Post by: elmo on Wed, 26 August 2020, 15:58:11
Wait, have the Rama caps shipped already? I hope not, because I haven't received anything yet!
YepShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dHe8d7W.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a02XDB4.jpg)
I guess people that ordered through the local vendors will get their rama caps together with the set.
Post by: Araset on Thu, 27 August 2020, 11:54:02
Post by: wolfez4444 on Thu, 27 August 2020, 12:20:57
Man I wish for an R2 of this. I hope I'll be lucky enough to get extras when they finally deliver, that's one of the coolest sets I have seen, no doubt.Same it looks really good!
Post by: clik_clak on Thu, 27 August 2020, 12:55:54
Man I wish for an R2 of this. I hope I'll be lucky enough to get extras when they finally deliver, that's one of the coolest sets I have seen, no doubt.
They haven't even completed color sampling yet for R1...Wishing for an R2 is kinda silly right now.
Post by: BAS1C on Thu, 27 August 2020, 14:51:14
Post by: Randalljai on Thu, 27 August 2020, 16:19:05
Post by: itsmartin on Thu, 27 August 2020, 19:20:32
Looks great.
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 28 August 2020, 00:52:08
Post by: _PixelNinja on Fri, 28 August 2020, 03:54:04
Just dropped by to check whatsup. I'd rather wait to get the colors right. and whatsup with the bent spacebars? I've only seen the first love one. has there been other gmk sets with the same issue?
Not to defend GMK, as I think they should absolutely try and fix the ongoing issues and define clear and fair specifications, but contrary to what many people seem to believe, they are nothing new.
Post by: hyppialonso on Fri, 28 August 2020, 06:26:01
let's put it in another way - gmk has been ignoring the quality control problem as long as people are not voicing out their opinionsJust dropped by to check whatsup. I'd rather wait to get the colors right. and whatsup with the bent spacebars? I've only seen the first love one. has there been other gmk sets with the same issue?
Not to defend GMK, as I think they should absolutely try and fix the ongoing issues and define clear and fair specifications, but contrary to what many people seem to believe, they are nothing new.
Post by: _PixelNinja on Fri, 28 August 2020, 07:00:40
let's put it in another way - gmk has been ignoring the quality control problem as long as people are not voicing out their opinions
The thing is, the imperfections on their keysets haven't been considered as issues until recent times. For some reason there is this belief that GMK sets used to be perfect (I've been in this hobby since 2011 they have never been). That being said, end users and vendors should definitely be vocal towards GMK about fixing keycaps with defects (e.g. significantly warped spacebars that effectively interfere with stabilizers, injection issues, messed up legends etc.)
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 28 August 2020, 07:55:37
let's put it in another way - gmk has been ignoring the quality control problem as long as people are not voicing out their opinions
The thing is, the imperfections on their keysets haven't been considered as issues until recent times. For some reason there is this belief that GMK sets used to be perfect (I've been in this hobby since 2011 they have never been). That being said, end users and vendors should definitely be vocal towards GMK about fixing keycaps with defects (e.g. significantly warped spacebars that effectively interfere with stabilizers, injection issues, messed up legends etc.)
I havent been in the hobby as long as you and Ive experienced some gmk issues but it was more because the caps were sent in bags so they were badly scratched (gmk hf r2) but this is the first time Ive heard of warping. I always thought gmk to be the gold standard.
Post by: leexy on Fri, 28 August 2020, 10:29:18
let's put it in another way - gmk has been ignoring the quality control problem as long as people are not voicing out their opinions
The thing is, the imperfections on their keysets haven't been considered as issues until recent times. For some reason there is this belief that GMK sets used to be perfect (I've been in this hobby since 2011 they have never been). That being said, end users and vendors should definitely be vocal towards GMK about fixing keycaps with defects (e.g. significantly warped spacebars that effectively interfere with stabilizers, injection issues, messed up legends etc.)
I havent been in the hobby as long as you and Ive experienced some gmk issues but it was more because the caps were sent in bags so they were badly scratched (gmk hf r2) but this is the first time Ive heard of warping. I always thought gmk to be the gold standard.
what do you mean "sent in bags"?
Post by: hiddensong on Fri, 28 August 2020, 11:35:35
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 28 August 2020, 17:51:21
let's put it in another way - gmk has been ignoring the quality control problem as long as people are not voicing out their opinions
The thing is, the imperfections on their keysets haven't been considered as issues until recent times. For some reason there is this belief that GMK sets used to be perfect (I've been in this hobby since 2011 they have never been). That being said, end users and vendors should definitely be vocal towards GMK about fixing keycaps with defects (e.g. significantly warped spacebars that effectively interfere with stabilizers, injection issues, messed up legends etc.)
I havent been in the hobby as long as you and Ive experienced some gmk issues but it was more because the caps were sent in bags so they were badly scratched (gmk hf r2) but this is the first time Ive heard of warping. I always thought gmk to be the gold standard.
what do you mean "sent in bags"?
GMK caps used to be shipped in bags and were damaged so they implemented the whole plastic trays to minimize shipping issues.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 31 August 2020, 14:50:21
let's put it in another way - gmk has been ignoring the quality control problem as long as people are not voicing out their opinions
The thing is, the imperfections on their keysets haven't been considered as issues until recent times. For some reason there is this belief that GMK sets used to be perfect (I've been in this hobby since 2011 they have never been). That being said, end users and vendors should definitely be vocal towards GMK about fixing keycaps with defects (e.g. significantly warped spacebars that effectively interfere with stabilizers, injection issues, messed up legends etc.)
I always thought gmk to be the gold standard.
This is mostly something I see parroted on /r/mechanicalkeyboards rather than on GH. Like people will get super defensive of GMK on /r/MK
Post by: poodude on Mon, 31 August 2020, 23:59:37
Post by: hyppialonso on Tue, 01 September 2020, 05:25:07
For what it's worth, i recently got GMK phosphorous and the spacebars were not warped. It's also something you can pretty easily fix with a hair drier if you do have a warped bar as others have mentioned before. ABS as a thermoplastic, shrinks as it cools. The molds are designed with this shrinkage in mind. Removing abs before its cooled causes it to warp and is most apparent on thin or long objects. i 3D print quite a bit and won't touch abs because of that issue. As far as injection molding goes I would guess removing them from the mold before completely cooled raises the possibility of warping issues.Doesn't this method only work for PBT?
Post by: ossetepo on Wed, 02 September 2020, 19:11:32
For what it's worth, i recently got GMK phosphorous and the spacebars were not warped. It's also something you can pretty easily fix with a hair drier if you do have a warped bar as others have mentioned before. ABS as a thermoplastic, shrinks as it cools. The molds are designed with this shrinkage in mind. Removing abs before its cooled causes it to warp and is most apparent on thin or long objects. i 3D print quite a bit and won't touch abs because of that issue. As far as injection molding goes I would guess removing them from the mold before completely cooled raises the possibility of warping issues.Doesn't this method only work for PBT?
There's no particular reason that heating and reforming wouldn't work with ABS, but it does have a significantly higher glass transition temperature than PBT (~100 C vs ~60 C). I'd probably use a hot water bath rather than a hair dryer, but none of my recent spacebars are warped enough to bother.
Post by: elmo on Thu, 03 September 2020, 03:20:05
For what it's worth, i recently got GMK phosphorous and the spacebars were not warped. It's also something you can pretty easily fix with a hair drier if you do have a warped bar as others have mentioned before. ABS as a thermoplastic, shrinks as it cools. The molds are designed with this shrinkage in mind. Removing abs before its cooled causes it to warp and is most apparent on thin or long objects. i 3D print quite a bit and won't touch abs because of that issue. As far as injection molding goes I would guess removing them from the mold before completely cooled raises the possibility of warping issues.Doesn't this method only work for PBT?
There's no particular reason that heating and reforming wouldn't work with ABS, but it does have a significantly higher glass transition temperature than PBT (~100 C vs ~60 C). I'd probably use a hot water bath rather than a hair dryer, but none of my recent spacebars are warped enough to bother.
Problem with ABS is that it becomes super shiny and usually warps even more when it gets hot.
Trying to fix bent spacebars usually just makes it worse.
Post by: Domantas on Sat, 05 September 2020, 07:02:39
Post by: Wickles on Fri, 11 September 2020, 14:17:04
I also think that gmk is just rushing making keycaps. And not for us consumers to get it faster but because there is too many gbs. They should just make longer queue for gbs and be more chill and have better qc
Yeah but more money. :)) They are a business after all.
Post by: ReverbSlush on Fri, 25 September 2020, 10:56:44
Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 25 September 2020, 17:50:01
still waitin on R3 samples? I see this set every day when I check my Route app on my phone. :thumb:
Yes, we are waiting to receive R3 samples at this point.
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 29 September 2020, 21:57:01
still waitin on R3 samples? I see this set every day when I check my Route app on my phone. :thumb:
Yes, we are waiting to receive R3 samples at this point.
Can't wait!
Post by: bmilcs on Thu, 01 October 2020, 14:47:53
You know what color scheme we need to see? Nord <3 though I'm sure it's been done before.
Post by: Hell-es on Thu, 01 October 2020, 15:05:09
How did I miss out on this? Oh yeah. Endless house renovations & a homelabbing.Nord ran just about ~3 month ago
You know what color scheme we need to see? Nord <3 though I'm sure it's been done before.
Atm is Monokai Material from Oblotzky
Also sad i missed this one, but i hope for extras
Post by: bmilcs on Thu, 01 October 2020, 15:08:15
How did I miss out on this? Oh yeah. Endless house renovations & a homelabbing.Nord ran just about ~3 month ago
You know what color scheme we need to see? Nord <3 though I'm sure it's been done before.
Atm is Monokai Material from Oblotzky
Also sad i missed this one, but i hope for extras
I checked it out, but from skimming it, it would appear it never went through? I'm a moron though. Don't listen to me.
Post by: WetRacoon on Fri, 02 October 2020, 16:21:10
Probes placed at the edge of the solar system send back data suggesting the presence of advanced life forms preparing to launch an invasion of Holy Terra, with fractured warring only worsening the probability of complete subjugation at the hands of these galactic overlords.
As poverty, disease, and war ravage the vast swathes of the planet, the rich find solace in deep underground hibernation chambers, hoping that their errant genetic modification testing will allow them to awaken as more than just a post-human sludge.
GMK Dracula has finished color matching. At the turn of the century, there is only misery.
Post by: Cloakedbug on Sat, 03 October 2020, 00:46:20
Not of laughter, but of existential pain.
Post by: tonyjones on Sat, 03 October 2020, 02:05:10
Post by: Pylon on Sat, 03 October 2020, 11:32:19
Post by: cuongcan2020 on Sun, 04 October 2020, 12:39:33
Post by: dexie on Thu, 15 October 2020, 14:15:10
Post by: peterg on Fri, 16 October 2020, 06:08:34
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 16 October 2020, 06:35:19
The most amped up set of 2020
Best color matched set of 2021.
Almost there.
Post by: Visionaire on Fri, 16 October 2020, 07:03:42
Post by: Hell-es on Fri, 16 October 2020, 08:47:12
At this point, you might as well open up 'R2'... sell a bunch of kits and just add it to your first order since production still hasn't started...+1
Post by: kiandelmundo on Fri, 16 October 2020, 09:30:32
At this point, you might as well open up 'R2'... sell a bunch of kits and just add it to your first order since production still hasn't started...
this might be the play
Post by: SE7EN_ate_NINE on Fri, 16 October 2020, 12:26:01
At this point, you might as well open up 'R2'... sell a bunch of kits and just add it to your first order since production still hasn't started...
That would be the GIANT brain move right there. No sense leaving money on the table and letting flippers make it in the aftermarket when you can just increase the order quantity since nothing has actually been produced yet. I'd be shocked if GMK said "no, we don't want more orders and more money from you for something that hasn't started production yet". Everyone complains about flippers, out of stock everything and unfair extras sales, this is one of the few cases were that can be handled as a silver lining to the long delay.
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 16 October 2020, 12:46:23
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 19 October 2020, 17:51:27
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 19 October 2020, 19:02:50
Post by: Buster69 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 13:24:38
Post by: PPsyrius on Tue, 27 October 2020, 01:58:24
Post by: baccaan on Tue, 27 October 2020, 15:34:36
Post by: klementtan on Tue, 27 October 2020, 23:49:39
Post by: ShiroMoria on Wed, 28 October 2020, 05:30:44
Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
Post by: andtar2 on Wed, 28 October 2020, 05:54:58
Anyway, it would be nice with some status update for colour matching progress.
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Wed, 28 October 2020, 06:02:14
Post by: elmo on Wed, 28 October 2020, 07:56:24
You guys think it's a good idea to throw more money at a project that hasn't even been finilized for production? Or delivered to the R1 participants? Risk takers.
There isn't really much risk with a GMK groupbuy that was run through vendors.
GMK always delivers (even though their queue right now is quite big) and the vendors that handled this set are all well known and reputable.
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 28 October 2020, 10:00:27
You guys think it's a good idea to throw more money at a project that hasn't even been finilized for production? Or delivered to the R1 participants? Risk takers.
There isn't really much risk with a GMK groupbuy that was run through vendors.
GMK always delivers (even though their queue right now is quite big) and the vendors that handled this set are all well known and reputable.
+1
Post by: directheatedtriode on Wed, 28 October 2020, 10:36:36
I regret not ordering Nightmode with my preference for plainer looking sets these days but I know I'll have to do the extras gamble just like anyone else.
Post by: euphxenos on Wed, 28 October 2020, 12:02:41
Post by: Hell-es on Wed, 28 October 2020, 14:14:26
But it was just a thought, certainly not goin to happen
Post by: Buster69 on Fri, 30 October 2020, 11:34:26
I sort of doubt GMK would be willing to throw all their other clients (ie other GBs in their queue) under the bus and increase the wait times for those clients even longer just to manufacture another several thousand sets more than what were initially ordered because people demand an R1.2
I regret not ordering Nightmode with my preference for plainer looking sets these days but I know I'll have to do the extras gamble just like anyone else.
Same here, regret not getting nightmode to go with ERR. I also need a second minify kit because I need two 2.75's... There should be a lot of extras, but I'm guessing it will be a bloodbath lol.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sun, 01 November 2020, 05:03:41
Plus, like someone else mentioned, there are going to be loads of extras for this set.
Post by: surreal19 on Sun, 01 November 2020, 14:05:12
Post by: noorejji on Sun, 01 November 2020, 15:30:58
imagine it takes another 8 months for this set to complete lolI imagine never buying a GMK set again, because this is ridiculous.
Post by: elmo on Sun, 01 November 2020, 15:54:26
imagine it takes another 8 months for this set to complete lolI imagine never buying a GMK set again, because this is ridiculous.
This set takes so long because it has 8 custom colors that need to be matched.
And not only that but unfortunately GMK is having a lot of problems with their plastic suppliers rn due to the Covid-19 pandemic which increased the waiting time for the color samples a lot.
But honestly I'd rather have a well colormatched set and wait two years for it than having a rushed set that looks nothing like the renders in the end.
Other GMK sets usually have one or two custom colors so they don't take that long. Sets that use GMK standard colors are even faster.
Don't expect that this is the norm for GMK sets. It's an exception caused by the design choices of the set and the ongoing pandemic.
Also here's an update by Dixie:
(https://i.imgur.com/b2vr1tY.png)
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 01 November 2020, 17:15:43
It would be great to hear something from the parties involved here, in the actual gb thread after a year of color matching and covid.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 01 November 2020, 18:14:21
Post by: Kokaloo on Sun, 01 November 2020, 18:35:13
I have no problem waiting, but please for the love of God, request that GMK up their spacebar QC. Every covid era GMK set I've gotten ships with a 7U banana, which makes sets unusable on nice wkl boards.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103619.msg2950871#msg2950871
You're mistaken, they aren't defective but merely within GMK's new quality standard.
Post by: Emir on Sun, 01 November 2020, 23:58:12
So we're clarifying and giving updates on this set in a reddit post about another gmk set? This one has been radio silence for how long with the exception of "perpetually color matching" updates?
It would be great to hear something from the parties involved here, in the actual gb thread after a year of color matching and covid.
Dixie only responds when his reddit karma is on the line
Post by: elmo on Mon, 02 November 2020, 03:41:32
So we're clarifying and giving updates on this set in a reddit post about another gmk set? This one has been radio silence for how long with the exception of "perpetually color matching" updates?
It would be great to hear something from the parties involved here, in the actual gb thread after a year of color matching and covid.
The post actually was about Dracula but I agree. Would be nice to see some updates in here as well.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 02 November 2020, 09:57:26
I have no problem waiting, but please for the love of God, request that GMK up their spacebar QC. Every covid era GMK set I've gotten ships with a 7U banana, which makes sets unusable on nice wkl boards.
I'm hoping that is now in the past, my DMG base spacebars and spacebars kit were flawless and I'm using 7u.
Post by: WHAT!? on Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:34:41
So we're clarifying and giving updates on this set in a reddit post about another gmk set? This one has been radio silence for how long with the exception of "perpetually color matching" updates?
It would be great to hear something from the parties involved here, in the actual gb thread after a year of color matching and covid.
x2
It really is pretty piss poor. I mean how long does it take to leave an update? I'm not a hard man to please. I threw hundreds of dollars at thing, as we all did, and really haven't complained in a years time that I have nothing to show for it. The very least that could be done by the runners (and I mean the very least) is pop in at least once a month with a status update so I know what to expect and where things stand. That's just basic courtesy.
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:11:45
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104498.msg2942230#msg2942230
If you joined Dracula, you get:
Quote
We just received a package from GMK containing some samples for GMK Dracula. We have only opened the package and have not taken a look at the samples because they just arrived. Not all the samples we are waiting on are in this shipment. We are still waiting on some.
perpetual color matching.
Post by: GarrettSucks on Fri, 06 November 2020, 19:47:08
(https://imgur.com/5uBAnOG.gif)
Before we get into the update, we would like to give some perspective on why this is taking so long for anyone who wants an explanation.
Dracula has 8 custom colors that had to be matched. Last year, sets with 2-3 custom colors would take about 4 weeks to receive each sample round. The combination of Dracula having so many colors to be matched, GMK already being overloaded last year, COVID-19 shutting down GMK and the plastic supplier for a few weeks, and regulatory safety measures even after they opened back up have all resulted in how long this is taking. 90% of the time has been us waiting to get the samples or just waiting for the samples to arrive to Nebulant and Pikku once they arrive.
Because the timeline of these samples is spread out amongst all of our weekly updates, we will compile it all here for you.
ROUND 1:
+ Oct 2019 - Colors submitted.
+ Early Feb 2020 - Received the first round of samples. 4 month wait.
+ Early Feb 2020 - Sent samples to Pikku.
+ Late Feb 2020 - Approved red and blue. Submitted adjustments for a second round of alphas, mods, pink, green, purple, and yellow. Right after the pandemic really started to shut down everything.
ROUND 2:
+ Late July - Received the second round of samples. 5 month wait.
+ Early August - Sent samples to Nebulant to measure and to Pikku.
+ First Week of Sept - No approvals. Submitted adjustments for a third round.
ROUND 3:
+ Mid Oct - We received alpha, modifier, and yellow samples. Within 5 weeks of submitting them, which seems to be back to the original timeline of samples from 2019.
+ Mid Oct - Sent samples to Nebulant and Pikku.
+ Early Nov - Approved modifiers and yellow(tentatively). Submitted adjustments for a forth round of the modifiers.
Now onto detailed information about the R3 samples.
Pikku and I have gone through the data from Nebulant for the latest round of samples. We are currently still waiting on the third round of the pink, green, and purple samples. We do not have an estimated arrival time, but we hope to have them soon because these were sent in around the same time as the alphas, modifiers, and yellow.
The three colors that we received this round were the third round of the alphas, modifiers, and yellow.
The alphas are approved and look fantastic.
We will be getting a 4th round of the modifiers because the color is just too dark at the moment. It meshes really well alongside the R2 alphas, which were also too dark, so we are going to ask that the R4 modifier be adjusted the same amount that the R3 alpha was. It is very important that the contrast between the alphas and mods be correct.
Because the pink, green, and purple arent too far behind, we are waiting until we receive them before we 100% confirm the approval of the yellow. We want to make sure it meshes well with those colors (if they are approved) first.
Below you can see which colors have been approved.
Alphas - R3 APPROVED ✔︎
Modifiers - Getting an R4
Red - R1 APPROVED ✔︎
Blue - R1 APPROVED ✔︎
Pink - Waiting for R3
Green - Waiting for R3
Purple - Waiting for R3
Yellow - R3 APPROVED TENTATIVELY ✔︎
White - STOCK COLOR ✔︎
We have not started compiling the color-matching document for this set because it is much larger and more complicated than others. We will try to get this done, but it may not be done until the color matching is complete.
We post weekly updates on all of our projects at news.dixiemech.com and here is a link to our most recent > https://dixiemech.com/news/11-6-2020
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 06 November 2020, 21:15:31
Post by: geewiz on Sat, 07 November 2020, 04:57:15
Post by: avid on Sat, 07 November 2020, 07:26:16
Post by: elmo on Sat, 07 November 2020, 13:24:51
How does it work with production que, will production start as soon as all colors are approved or will it have to wait for other keysets to be produced ahead?
It will have to wait until other keysets that were queued before have finished production.
But usually the production is pretty fast once it has started with QMK. It's just the waiting time that is so long rn.
Post by: Wickles on Sat, 07 November 2020, 14:33:43
Post by: Pylon on Sat, 07 November 2020, 21:21:29
How does it work with production que, will production start as soon as all colors are approved or will it have to wait for other keysets to be produced ahead?
It will have to wait until other keysets that were queued before have finished production.
But usually the production is pretty fast once it has started with QMK. It's just the waiting time that is so long rn.
Is production queue scheduled before or after color matching? Given Dracula closed over a year ago I would assume it would have priority in the queue as soon as it's done color matching?
Post by: elmo on Sun, 08 November 2020, 04:25:59
How does it work with production que, will production start as soon as all colors are approved or will it have to wait for other keysets to be produced ahead?
It will have to wait until other keysets that were queued before have finished production.
But usually the production is pretty fast once it has started with QMK. It's just the waiting time that is so long rn.
Is production queue scheduled before or after color matching? Given Dracula closed over a year ago I would assume it would have priority in the queue as soon as it's done color matching?
Most likely after because it doesn't make much sense to put a set into queue when they don't know how long the colormatching will take.
Post by: Buster69 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 15:05:30
Solid update, really gutted I didn't purchase some of the add-on modules. Hopefully there is a R2 at some point!
Same. There should be lots of extras though. Hoping to grab an extra minify kit and the night mode kit.
Post by: Emir on Wed, 11 November 2020, 16:28:03
How does it work with production que, will production start as soon as all colors are approved or will it have to wait for other keysets to be produced ahead?
It will have to wait until other keysets that were queued before have finished production.
But usually the production is pretty fast once it has started with QMK. It's just the waiting time that is so long rn.
Is production queue scheduled before or after color matching? Given Dracula closed over a year ago I would assume it would have priority in the queue as soon as it's done color matching?
Most likely after because it doesn't make much sense to put a set into queue when they don't know how long the colormatching will take.
It's before, as crazy as that sounds. You're give a production slot some time down the line, which is also why designers/vendors are able to estimate date of delivery. But yeah, that goes out the window more times than not with custom colors.
Post by: Buster69 on Thu, 19 November 2020, 18:15:07
Bets on which will come first, Dracula or a vaccine?
All jokes aside, hopefully they will get this set perfect and we will get a real update and ETA soon. Hold fast gentleman.
Post by: BAS1C on Sun, 22 November 2020, 23:08:21
Post by: KucherenkoZZZ on Wed, 25 November 2020, 17:34:29
Post by: Pylon on Wed, 25 November 2020, 18:12:29
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 25 November 2020, 18:27:58
And this is the difference between a good group buy and bad group buy. In a good group buy the color matching phase begins in IC and in the bad one color matching begins after people paid money and waiting to get the product on hand. The same bad managing happened to GMK Toxic, such a shame
Name the GMK sets that began color matching during GB. Take your time, start back 8 years ago, let us know.
Post by: KucherenkoZZZ on Wed, 25 November 2020, 18:42:50
And this is the difference between a good group buy and bad group buy. In a good group buy the color matching phase begins in IC and in the bad one color matching begins after people paid money and waiting to get the product on hand. The same bad managing happened to GMK Toxic, such a shame
Name the GMK sets that began color matching during GB. Take your time, start back 8 years ago, let us know.
Here is the one DURING IC stage where guy ordering SECOND ROUND of samples to get the colors right to his renders - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101922.0
I think everyone who cares about customers and not just "cash grabbing" makes it either during IC (and keep in mind that we are talking about 2-3 colors sets) or at the beginning of GB but when u have an 5+ custom color sets you should have a color samples on hand on (during) IC stage IMO
And i've seen a lot of GMK sets that had color matching either during IC or at the start of GB, but sure, you can happily wait another year.. or two or three..
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 25 November 2020, 19:43:14
"And i've seen a lot of GMK sets that had color matching either during IC or at the start of GB"
Wonderful, please post them. Surely a lot would be at least 10?
Im being pedantic here because 95%+ of the time prematch from GMK doesnt happen and I think at least deep down we both know that. Thats not to say its the correct thing to do and here we're in agreement. I think at least having the plastic chip in hand for a color standard would be a fantastic expectation for GBs as it would prevent my main pet peeve, which is where a color has been chosen from a standard such RAL or Pantone so everyone can view from a deck or on a color accurate monitor, and then changing from that color. That personally bothers me more than delays.
Post by: Pylon on Wed, 25 November 2020, 20:57:11
And this is the difference between a good group buy and bad group buy. In a good group buy the color matching phase begins in IC and in the bad one color matching begins after people paid money and waiting to get the product on hand. The same bad managing happened to GMK Toxic, such a shame
Name the GMK sets that began color matching during GB. Take your time, start back 8 years ago, let us know.
Here is the one DURING IC stage where guy ordering SECOND ROUND of samples to get the colors right to his renders - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101922.0
Buying a Pantone or RAL chip to match renders to the RAL/Pantone color (which anyone can do for $20) is not the same as getting GMK to color match to that Pantone/RAL chip. GMK did not do color matching during that IC.
Post by: Emir on Thu, 26 November 2020, 08:10:33
And this is the difference between a good group buy and bad group buy. In a good group buy the color matching phase begins in IC and in the bad one color matching begins after people paid money and waiting to get the product on hand. The same bad managing happened to GMK Toxic, such a shame
Name the GMK sets that began color matching during GB. Take your time, start back 8 years ago, let us know.
Here is the one DURING IC stage where guy ordering SECOND ROUND of samples to get the colors right to his renders - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101922.0
I think everyone who cares about customers and not just "cash grabbing" makes it either during IC (and keep in mind that we are talking about 2-3 colors sets) or at the beginning of GB but when u have an 5+ custom color sets you should have a color samples on hand on (during) IC stage IMO
And i've seen a lot of GMK sets that had color matching either during IC or at the start of GB, but sure, you can happily wait another year.. or two or three..
What? GMK is not matching that set (at least judging from the thread) during his IC, he mentioned buying chips (physical color samples). Most group buys have chips prior to even creating the IC, or should anyway.
BUT - GMK can start colormatching before the GB concludes. However, it comes with a big cost and not many are willing to commit to that cost before knowing if their set will even meet MOQ or not. :)
Edit; also lol at dixie having GMK send the samples all the way to the US during covid, who in turn sends them all the way back to EU to pikku. :D
Post by: elmo on Fri, 27 November 2020, 04:48:45
And this is the difference between a good group buy and bad group buy. In a good group buy the color matching phase begins in IC and in the bad one color matching begins after people paid money and waiting to get the product on hand. The same bad managing happened to GMK Toxic, such a shame
Name the GMK sets that began color matching during GB. Take your time, start back 8 years ago, let us know.
Here is the one DURING IC stage where guy ordering SECOND ROUND of samples to get the colors right to his renders - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101922.0
I think everyone who cares about customers and not just "cash grabbing" makes it either during IC (and keep in mind that we are talking about 2-3 colors sets) or at the beginning of GB but when u have an 5+ custom color sets you should have a color samples on hand on (during) IC stage IMO
And i've seen a lot of GMK sets that had color matching either during IC or at the start of GB, but sure, you can happily wait another year.. or two or three..
You obviously don't even know what color matching means...
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 27 November 2020, 18:24:00
And this is the difference between a good group buy and bad group buy. In a good group buy the color matching phase begins in IC and in the bad one color matching begins after people paid money and waiting to get the product on hand. The same bad managing happened to GMK Toxic, such a shame
Name the GMK sets that began color matching during GB. Take your time, start back 8 years ago, let us know.
Here is the one DURING IC stage where guy ordering SECOND ROUND of samples to get the colors right to his renders - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101922.0
Buying a Pantone or RAL chip to match renders to the RAL/Pantone color (which anyone can do for $20) is not the same as getting GMK to color match to that Pantone/RAL chip. GMK did not do color matching during that IC.
To add to that, the colors of this set only existed digitally, since they are from a coding colorscheme, so there isn't even any chip that fits perfectly to which GMK could match the color, so the process has to be this kind of iterative thing with the GB runner.
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Wed, 02 December 2020, 02:28:10
Post by: zekth on Wed, 02 December 2020, 04:05:13
Bets on which will come first, Dracula or a vaccine?
Well... https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55145696
Post by: PeppyToad on Thu, 03 December 2020, 04:22:19
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 03 December 2020, 04:57:27
Don't you use DHL or an expedited method for shipping the color samples? Or are they on a boat?
I think the problem is GMK getting the samples done and sending it over.
Post by: pikku-allu on Thu, 03 December 2020, 07:42:36
Don't you use DHL or an expedited method for shipping the color samples? Or are they on a boat?
I think the problem is GMK getting the samples done and sending it over.
Exactly
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 03 December 2020, 09:23:18
I'm sure this has been posted before but I'd like to reiterate/let y'all know that color matching colors is time consuming (especially if they don't get it right on R1, which is quite often).
Each sample (one single color) takes like 3 weeks. So if there's 5 custom colors, that's 15 weeks. On top of all this, I'm sure GMK has had trouble sourcing certain plastics/colors (they did for GMK Coral).
To be 100%, I'd rather get accurate colors instead of half assed color matching with a "good enough" mindset. Your wait will be rewarded.
Post by: PeppyToad on Thu, 03 December 2020, 10:38:00
Please forgive me for not bothering reading like 8 pages of "reee where is my set"
I'm sure this has been posted before but I'd like to reiterate/let y'all know that color matching colors is time consuming (especially if they don't get it right on R1, which is quite often).
Each sample (one single color) takes like 3 weeks. So if there's 5 custom colors, that's 15 weeks. On top of all this, I'm sure GMK has had trouble sourcing certain plastics/colors (they did for GMK Coral).
To be 100%, I'd rather get accurate colors instead of half assed color matching with a "good enough" mindset. Your wait will be rewarded.
Thank you for the detailed reply. My bad for not reading through the whole thread.
I don't mind the wait times too much. I too would like a perfect set than a half assed one. I'm not familiar with the whole keycap designing process, but I understand some of it now.
Thanks to everyone involved for all your hard work.
Post by: WetRacoon on Fri, 18 December 2020, 12:51:37
The flood of mutated genes from the equator overwhelmed the integrity of base line humans in their northern bastions. Within a generation the changes became ingrained, as the children of a previously pure species punished it through both karmic vengeance and guerilla warfare. What was left of the protected technological advancements began to crumble as the leftovers of a once great civilization began its great and unstoppable reversal.
Almost a hundred years ago probes detected a significant presence near Pluto. Their measurements were not an error. Colonies outside of Terra went dark within a year. No contact. No warning. Not even a death rattle. The enemy now stands at the door of a planet collapsing under the weight of its filth and corruption. A final death blow from an existential threat like no other. The Great Annihilator has come.
The rich fared no better as they emerged from their preservation pods. In their state they were worse off than the mutants, but their arrogance ensured that this did not matter. Without the protection of the state, ethics became a long forgotten concept, a fashion in passing. Now lovingly known as the Slug Lords, they took what was left of the genetically stable population for their own benefit...and pleasure. Behind their decayed beady eyes lay the hope that they could use these clean humans as bargaining chips with the alien. Their hope is misplaced.
The year is 2199 and the end is nigh. In time all things must pass. The species spasms, gasping for breath. GMK Dracula is still color matching.
Post by: Wickles on Sat, 19 December 2020, 09:48:24
Post by: wonderfulrobot on Mon, 04 January 2021, 21:17:33
GMK queue/lead time sounds like 8 months best case, and considering colours aren't finalised and then shipping after production on top....
See you in next January!
(And good stuff WetRacoon!)
Post by: Pylon on Tue, 05 January 2021, 10:27:38
Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 05 January 2021, 19:42:08
Post by: Pylon on Sat, 16 January 2021, 12:01:42
https://omnitype.co/news/1-15-2021
Unfortunately looks like there needs to be one more round of color matching as the mod gray was way off. All the other colors look like they were approved.
Post by: bLaXe on Sat, 16 January 2021, 16:26:37
Post by: itsmartin on Sat, 16 January 2021, 20:59:07
is it likely that there will be lots of extras available after launch
We know exactly how many extras there will be based on the numbers given.
938 Base kits were ordered extra over customer orders, but that number is split across vendors... If the interest remains once we get the set delivered I wouldn't expect a few hundred sets per vendor to last particularly long at all.
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│ ├── Highlight --- 1223
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Post by: bLaXe on Sun, 17 January 2021, 02:14:18
Post by: honoka on Sun, 17 January 2021, 03:30:00
Would the GB organisers or GMK open the group buy again once all the colours have been finished and give it an extra boost in numbers? Does that ever happen?No, never!
You should try to get extras at a slight price bump
Post by: zian_ on Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:57:51
Lots of information to go around.
Post by: meat on Mon, 18 January 2021, 04:24:21
Post by: Invezting on Tue, 19 January 2021, 00:59:15
Post by: Wickles on Thu, 21 January 2021, 05:02:13
dracula when? :(
This time next year. :))
Post by: regionfree on Thu, 21 January 2021, 06:04:48
Post by: Sycomore on Thu, 21 January 2021, 06:07:18
Post by: mr_fro2000 on Fri, 22 January 2021, 03:00:25
Would the GB organisers or GMK open the group buy again once all the colours have been finished and give it an extra boost in numbers? Does that ever happen?No, never!
You should try to get extras at a slight price bump
I absolutely love this idea... kind of like running a r2 before r1 is done. I for one would definitely go in... even if the r2 is at extras prices, I'd be willing to pay up just to guarantee that I can get a set.
Would this be possible? I imagine a ton more sets would get sold if it re-opened or ran as a r2 after color matching is complete.
Post by: Hell-es on Fri, 22 January 2021, 12:38:18
Post by: S3ry on Fri, 22 January 2021, 16:43:00
Post by: Winster on Sat, 23 January 2021, 09:31:05
R2 will simply kill them. Just hope you get a extra set when they are sold
Post by: MoonOperator on Sat, 23 January 2021, 18:03:38
Would the GB organisers or GMK open the group buy again once all the colours have been finished and give it an extra boost in numbers? Does that ever happen?No, never!
You should try to get extras at a slight price bump
I absolutely love this idea... kind of like running a r2 before r1 is done. I for one would definitely go in... even if the r2 is at extras prices, I'd be willing to pay up just to guarantee that I can get a set.
Would this be possible? I imagine a ton more sets would get sold if it re-opened or ran as a r2 after color matching is complete.
Yeah same here Id love to see the option of an R2, I want in on all modules but that probably wont be possible with extras and will be pretty difficult/expensive on the after market.
Post by: MoonOperator on Sat, 23 January 2021, 18:12:17
It makes no sense to start R2 any time soon. Vendors have bought in a good number of base and child kits.
R2 will simply kill them. Just hope you get a extra set when they are sold
That doesnt make any difference though, kits havent been manufactured yet so that money thats allocated for extras can just go towards the new customers orders. In return vendors would get that money they put aside for extras back. Or just keep extras the same, most GMK sets will sell out eventually.
Post by: steezkeez on Sun, 24 January 2021, 03:53:28
nah
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 24 January 2021, 09:39:30
We're already over a year of color matching and nothing has been produced..
Post by: norb on Sun, 24 January 2021, 12:28:34
some of you guys remember better than me that we had massdrop and maybe one or two smaller vendors running one GMK every (other) month, now we're looking at multiple vendors for every region and 5-8 GMK sets per month.
Post by: mr_fro2000 on Mon, 01 February 2021, 05:52:34
do r2 because it will benefit me personally
nah
True, I would benefit... but so would the creator and vendor. They would make more money. But screw that, right?
Post by: itsmartin on Mon, 01 February 2021, 06:08:07
True, I would benefit... but so would the creator and vendor. They would make more money. But screw that, right?
I think they'll get even more sales if they get sets in people's hands before running a second round, so I suspect that's what they'll be waiting for.
Post by: leexy on Mon, 01 February 2021, 20:18:37
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 01 February 2021, 21:26:03
True, I would benefit... but so would the creator and vendor. They would make more money. But screw that, right?
They gotta sell off the 1000 extras. Right now the reason the vendors don't sell extras at 220 isn't because people wont pay. I presume ROI is fantastic for extras, but that gets diluted if there's more.
That said, you seem like a smart person. Since you've already figured out the ins and outs of the keeb business on your own........go be a vendor. Or at least make your keeb expenditures back selling a portion per month.
Post by: steezkeez on Thu, 04 February 2021, 02:08:14
do r2 because it will benefit me personally
nah
True, I would benefit... but so would the creator and vendor. They would make more money. But screw that, right?
yeah
Post by: mr_fro2000 on Thu, 04 February 2021, 06:42:31
True, I would benefit... but so would the creator and vendor. They would make more money. But screw that, right?
They gotta sell off the 1000 extras. Right now the reason the vendors don't sell extras at 220 isn't because people wont pay. I presume ROI is fantastic for extras, but that gets diluted if there's more.
That said, you seem like a smart person. Since you've already figured out the ins and outs of the keeb business on your own........go be a vendor. Or at least make your keeb expenditures back selling a portion per month.
Wow, what a snarky-ass comment to a legitimate idea/question. I bring up the r2 idea precisely because I'm NOT "a smart person" and I don't know "the ins and outs of the keeb business." Is it not logical to think that if this set ran another round during a 2.5-3 year production cycle that all parties involved would make more money? I take it YOU'RE the "smart person" with all 1200 posts... so why don't you tell us then? Do you honestly think they wouldn't make more $ selling another 500+ kits and then extras along with that than they would by keeping the status quo? Why would anyone care about ROI on extras if everyone ends up with more $ in their pockets? Nevermind that they'll have extras after another round as well...
Post by: itsmartin on Thu, 04 February 2021, 07:19:13
Wow, what a snarky-ass comment. I bring up the r2 idea precisely because I'm NOT "a smart person" and I don't know "the ins and outs of the keeb business." Is it not logical to think that if this set ran another round during a 2.5-3 year production cycle that all parties involved would make more money? I take it YOU'RE the "smart person" with all 1200 posts... so why don't you tell us then? Do you honestly think they wouldn't make more $ selling another 500+ kits and then extras along with that than they would by keeping the status quo? Why would anyone care about ROI on extras if everyone ends up with more $ in their pockets? Nevermind that they'll have extras after another round as well...
I'll expand further on my take above that the vendors would make more money if they wait to deliver, which I think addresses your questions.
So the vendors have 1000 extra sets to sell, that they've already paid for. They need to sell these sets to someone.
If they run an R2 right now, those people who want the set will buy in and the vendors have to decide if they buy more extras or just it on what they already have on order. What is the demand going to be like, since they just allowed everyone who was keen to buy at the group buy price? The set will get made and delivered pretty quickly and most demand for it was satisfied with the additional group buy run.
Those extras are then something the vendors will likely sell over time, but won't sell as quickly so will take up inventory space. This costs them money.
I'm not a vendor, nor have ever spoken to one or even considered running my own group buy... But I would bet that the margins on group buy sets aren't great while the margin on extras is pretty good. So if they allow people to buy in now they actually shoot themselves in the foot as they can't sell their extras as easily.
Vendors absolutely care about ROI on extras. They'd have anticipated that return when they made their investment and would not want to destroy their own profit margins.
Now, if they wait and do not open the buy up again for a second round, the demand will be satisfied by the extra kits they have on order. Likely that those kits won't be enough to satisfy demand, so in another few months they do run another round, and everyone buys in, and the vendors buy extras as usual. Considering the set has actually been delivered and people have seen it, this is likely to generate increased demand over a set that has never been seen before, so sales have the potential to be much higher than an extra round opened before it delivers. Then a year later that gets delivered and the vendors sell their extras again.
So for vendors, satisfying demand with an additional buy right now is an awful business decision. Existing customers who paid in 2019 are left wondering why they bothered joining all that time ago and have been through five rounds of colour matching only for other people to reap the benefits of their patience and get the product for the same price with no wait and much less uncertainty.
The only people that are happy are those that buy in now, because they buy in at a cheaper price for a product delivered faster and that they've seen samples of from colour matching.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Thu, 04 February 2021, 07:48:29
True, I would benefit... but so would the creator and vendor. They would make more money. But screw that, right?
They gotta sell off the 1000 extras. Right now the reason the vendors don't sell extras at 220 isn't because people wont pay. I presume ROI is fantastic for extras, but that gets diluted if there's more.
That said, you seem like a smart person. Since you've already figured out the ins and outs of the keeb business on your own........go be a vendor. Or at least make your keeb expenditures back selling a portion per month.
Wow, what a snarky-ass comment to a legitimate idea/question. I bring up the r2 idea precisely because I'm NOT "a smart person" and I don't know "the ins and outs of the keeb business." Is it not logical to think that if this set ran another round during a 2.5-3 year production cycle that all parties involved would make more money? I take it YOU'RE the "smart person" with all 1200 posts... so why don't you tell us then? Do you honestly think they wouldn't make more $ selling another 500+ kits and then extras along with that than they would by keeping the status quo? Why would anyone care about ROI on extras if everyone ends up with more $ in their pockets? Nevermind that they'll have extras after another round as well...
To answer some of your question I'm sure everyone all around would like to make more money but for every set that has ran in the past (except for DMG off the top of my head, I might be missing some I don't pay attention to all sets) there has been ~ 1 year wait before an R2 and it ran in the same manner - orders open for ~ 30 days then the wait.
Vendors are trying to make keysets that are available as in stock but with GMK this is really tough given the number of sets waiting in the queue and their slow manufacturing. If you go to the keycap subforum there is a post by GMK Andy that said their machinery manufactures one keycap at a time. They have multiple machines running, but you can see why it's not so simple as just throw on another few thousand orders for instant R2.
I think a more realistic ask is seeing if Dracula could run immediately by another manufacturer. Cafe did this after its GMK run with Infinikey.
Post by: mr_fro2000 on Thu, 04 February 2021, 09:35:25
I do understand the salt that those who held off since the original gb would feel... perhaps a vendor running an 'r2' would lose some goodwill by doing so... but I feel that running another round at a higher price would help alleviate some of this as well.
I know the suggestion to do an r2 most likely doesn't make sense, but I was thinking that perhaps a new precedent could be set given the how unusually long this particular set has been running for.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 04 February 2021, 18:00:46
Wow, what a snarky-ass comment to a legitimate idea/question. I bring up the r2 idea precisely because I'm NOT "a smart person" and I don't know "the ins and outs of the keeb business." Is it not logical to think that if this set ran another round during a 2.5-3 year production cycle that all parties involved would make more money? I take it YOU'RE the "smart person" with all 1200 posts... so why don't you tell us then?
Polite questions have gotten good answers....but "screw that, right?" Ok, here's a better answer.
Lets assume two things we don't know-the designer wants to do an R2 at some point and is flexible about timeline. Yeah, the 1000 R1 extras will sell out pretty fast even with an R2. Selling an R2 soon and at a higher price like you'd suggested will piss off the R1 buyers because the aftermarket price drops on R2 announcements, the people who want to buy R2 won't like the higher price, and the biggest issues remain opportunity cost and margins. It's best for vendors to have a kit make MOQ, there's a big opportunity cost if you dont, but that really isn't Omnitype's problem anymore-their monthly sales are reliably huge.
you've seen that pricing at high MOQ, say 1000 base kits, lowers the price of the kit: that's how base kits under 120 USD happen, vs MOQ 250 where the base kit is at 140+. The price drops continue happening at even higher order amounts-they're just not passed on to the customer anymore like Drop used to years ago. If you're a big time vendor, the best thing you can do is price at good price point, and then not just make MOQ, but get 3000+ orders, and Omnitype does this more as often as not in the past year. Then you're paying even less per kit as you've unlocked lower prices at each tier going from 1500 to 2000 to 3000 (which is why sales with extras are often at or near round numbers) and when you buy extras, they're costing you possibly 100$ a kit less than you're selling them for and even that's still way under aftermarket. Extras are where the money is if you've got the capital. Everyone wins: people get cheap kits as you priced at high MOQ, you made a pile of money.
Let's say it goes as you figure, and I think you're right. The extras sell at GB+50% or so, and sell out in minutes or less. Aftermarket hits ~300 per base. 1000 people on discord insta here and reddit all ask for extras. Pikku thinks up some new kits, maybe? Furthermore, they can slot in R2 possibly on shorter notice. Something like GMK White Wolf cancelation happens again-you've got a set with good potential on deck. An R2 gets run then. It's priced low, there's tons of sales, profit is as expected, and in the meantime, they sell 560 of the base kit of this month (tuzi) in the opening day and are on track for another 3000+ base kits.
Lets say you run an R2 now, and price it at higher...140? You piss off a set of the R1 buyers. You devalue the extras you've purchased although yeah, they'll probably sell out anyways (caveat below). You decrease the likelihood of selling huge amounts, because you're pricing the kit higher, and of the top 10 kits of all time in sales, all had fairly cheap price relative to kit design and high MOQ at the outset with the exception of GMK Rainy Day. Those lower sales numbers increase the price you buy at at, and the extras margin is a huge potential profit. It's also one less set Omnitype could promote, probably get at least 1500 base sales with a chance that a set's a hit. The benefit of this is...some people don't have to wait for R2? They're not clearly making more money w Drac R2 than running some other set.
Also, at some point, the keyset bubble bursts. You're not always gonna be able to sell a GMK sealed kit and double your money in a year. Presumably when in stock sales increase and GMK can meet demand? Keyset futures right now are unreal. Keyset futures back in 2018 solidly beat my mutual funds. The moment extras aren't an easy flip, FOMO drops, the extras sales are going to slow way down-and then the price has to drop on extras.
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 04 February 2021, 18:02:23
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Post by: LevelSteam on Sat, 13 February 2021, 22:21:39
some of you guys remember better than me that we had massdrop and maybe one or two smaller vendors running one GMK every (other) month, now we're looking at multiple vendors for every region and 5-8 GMK sets per month.
I member' the before-fore times. Seems like production capabilities haven't increased in proportion to demand.
Post by: sevenseacat on Sun, 14 February 2021, 03:23:43
some of you guys remember better than me that we had massdrop and maybe one or two smaller vendors running one GMK every (other) month, now we're looking at multiple vendors for every region and 5-8 GMK sets per month.
I member' the before-fore times. Seems like production capabilities haven't increased in proportion to demand.
AFAIK our group buys are only a tiny subset of the caps that GMK actually manufactures.
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Sun, 28 February 2021, 23:49:13
Post by: zian_ on Sun, 14 March 2021, 19:55:36
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 15 March 2021, 01:54:33
GMK DRACULA
IN COLOR MATCHING PHASE
We have unfortunate news that we dread to have to give. The round 5 modifier sample was not right. The sample was just as bad as the round 4 sample that we clearly stated was unacceptably wrong, but somehow round 5 was just as wrong. We submitted our thoughts on Tuesday for an unprecedented round 6 sample. Round 5 only took a little over 2 weeks to receive, so hopefully this one will be quick as well.
Below you can see a photo of the 5 rounds of samples in order. We are showing you this so you can understand how far off the round 4 and 5 samples were and how they were simply not acceptable to use in the final product. No matter how difficult the decision was. The photo is only the show the comparison between the modifier samples and not to perfectly represent how they look in real-life. Some of these samples may seem like they are right, but we are matching each color to be part of the overall palette and not independently. The relationship and contrast between the alphas and modifiers is very important, which is why we are going to such great lengths to get it right.
We submitted our thoughts and reiterated for a 3rd time now, the changes that needed to be made from the ROUND 3 sample. Round 3 was very close to being correct, but was just a little bit too dark. We provided in depth measurements and adjustments to do everything we could to help them make the changes, however, the samples following round 3 were incredibly over lightened to the point that they could possibly be mistaken for the alphas, which is forcing us to have to get another round.
We are committed to getting these colors as perfect as we can to live up to the design that all of you expect to get.
Post by: itsmartin on Mon, 15 March 2021, 02:05:33
Post by: s3vv4 on Tue, 16 March 2021, 06:28:45
BTW, I feel like R3 might be too saturated too, besides being too dark, but hard to judge for me from photos.
It's not at all the runner's fault for how long this takes, some seem to imply it is.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Tue, 16 March 2021, 07:42:23
Post by: regionfree on Sun, 28 March 2021, 00:23:32
Post by: Wickles on Sun, 28 March 2021, 08:09:57
Post by: bball2 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:21:07
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 29 March 2021, 01:09:39
This GB is ****ed. This will be your grand kids' first GMK set, if it ever gets shipped.
Hello Lolo its me your grandson.
Post by: neah12 on Mon, 29 March 2021, 11:55:28
it's too much wait time.
Post by: tonyjones on Tue, 30 March 2021, 13:21:31
this is my first gmk group buy and i don't regret it, but i also think that this is not the right group buy for a first timer like me.
it's too much wait time.
It'll be well worth it! Even if it takes three years I'm still waiting for this masterpiece! the holy grail of GMK
Post by: euphxenos on Tue, 30 March 2021, 15:28:28
Post by: neah12 on Wed, 31 March 2021, 15:07:16
this is my first gmk group buy and i don't regret it, but i also think that this is not the right group buy for a first timer like me.
it's too much wait time.
It'll be well worth it! Even if it takes three years I'm still waiting for this masterpiece! the holy grail of GMK
for sure, it's look great in the pics. but still, for a first time gmk like me it's a little to much wait time.
Post by: Buster69 on Wed, 07 April 2021, 21:18:18
Post by: Cloakedbug on Sun, 11 April 2021, 00:27:10
I think its reasonable now to ask for those running this group buy to insist on prioritization from GMK.
It doesnt have to be entitled, its simply an egregious amount of time to wait on a vendor of this reputation and COST to fulfill their end of the contract. A factory could have been started from the ground up, moulds created, and product delivered in this time.
Time for GMK to get a move on.
Post by: Hell-es on Sun, 11 April 2021, 01:30:50
Post by: tonyjones on Mon, 19 April 2021, 08:49:56
Post by: steezkeez on Thu, 22 April 2021, 14:27:51
i understand the delays are just an unfortunate byproduct stemming from the current nature of the color matching process, but i definitely think steps can be taken to reevaluate, iterate on, and improve the overall process to hopefully avoid situations like these in the future
though it would take a concerted effort from both the manufacturer and vendor side, which i don't see happening unfortunately
it seems like currently, both sides are just fine blaming the process for the delays and passing the problem down to the customers, which is a shame
Post by: elmo on Sat, 24 April 2021, 04:22:12
hopefully color matching with gmk improves over time with regards to expediency and efficiency
i understand the delays are just an unfortunate byproduct stemming from the current nature of the color matching process, but i definitely think steps can be taken to reevaluate, iterate on, and improve the overall process to hopefully avoid situations like these in the future
though it would take a concerted effort from both the manufacturer and vendor side, which i don't see happening unfortunately
it seems like currently, both sides are just fine blaming the process for the delays and passing the problem down to the customers, which is a shame
GMK is usually pretty good at colormatching.
This set is just an exception because it has so many custom colors. Most sets just have two or maybe three colors that have to get matched.
In addition to this the color matching phase fell right into the Covid pandemic which caused all those delays (afaik GMK had a lot of troubles with their plastic suppliers during that time).
This isn't the norm at all. For most sets color matching is finished after the first two sample rounds which usually takes around a month at max.
Post by: audax989 on Sat, 24 April 2021, 04:35:23
as long as I see it this year.
Post by: Dakk1d on Tue, 27 April 2021, 11:11:03
Not sure if it's even possible but hey.
Post by: Buster69 on Tue, 27 April 2021, 11:15:13
Maybe open this up for new orders again? Hobby exploded since this ran...
Not sure if it's even possible but hey.
Haha
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 27 April 2021, 11:19:05
Maybe open this up for new orders again? Hobby exploded since this ran...
Not sure if it's even possible but hey.
Haha
hahaha
Post by: tonyjones on Tue, 27 April 2021, 14:02:06
Maybe open this up for new orders again? Hobby exploded since this ran...
Not sure if it's even possible but hey.
Haha
hahaha
Imagine R2 running before R1 ships, that would be epic. I hope this set doesn't get shipped until October 2022 so it can be the longest running set ever.
Post by: itsmartin on Tue, 27 April 2021, 18:43:42
Maybe open this up for new orders again? Hobby exploded since this ran...
Not sure if it's even possible but hey.
We went in circles on this a few pages back. I doubt there is anything new to add that wasnt already said.
Maybe open this up for new orders again? Hobby exploded since this ran...
Not sure if it's even possible but hey.
Haha
hahaha
Imagine R2 running before R1 ships, that would be epic. I hope this set doesn't get shipped until October 2022 so it can be the longest running set ever.
Hyperfuse says hello.
Post by: pikku-allu on Wed, 28 April 2021, 10:01:34
Post by: packman86 on Wed, 28 April 2021, 11:27:48
Joking.
Hoping to get my hands on an extra set if those will be available.
Post by: HappyB0T on Wed, 28 April 2021, 12:20:55
R6 modifier color sample is on its way to me right now. Here's hoping it's finally the one.
(╯°□°)╯︵ <3! (<--- Positivity )
Post by: BAS1C on Sat, 01 May 2021, 03:21:30
Round 2 of this GB when.
Joking.
Hoping to get my hands on an extra set if those will be available.
Honestly i feel like they could double the orders if they opened it up again at this point...
Post by: vi0till on Mon, 03 May 2021, 07:16:08
Dont call it r2, just call it extended r1. Interested if that is an option. lolRound 2 of this GB when.
Joking.
Hoping to get my hands on an extra set if those will be available.
Honestly i feel like they could double the orders if they opened it up again at this point...
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Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 04 May 2021, 11:07:17
Post by: kumori on Tue, 04 May 2021, 13:29:02
Post by: acitrin on Tue, 04 May 2021, 13:43:19
Hope this Friday brings us some good news ;D
Well, that news came a little sooner than Friday...
https://twitter.com/omnitype_/status/1389649956961759233?s=21
Post by: L4ll1g470r on Tue, 04 May 2021, 13:56:17
Post by: pikku-allu on Tue, 04 May 2021, 14:06:48
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The day is finally upon us. GMK Dracula has completed color-matching!
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The day is finally upon us. GMK Dracula has completed color-matching!Show Image(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ColossalBadGraywolf-size_restricted.gif)
It's happening!!!
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 04 May 2021, 14:24:56
Post by: Buster69 on Tue, 04 May 2021, 15:25:35
Post by: 1391401 on Tue, 04 May 2021, 15:51:34
Google told me it's been 578 days since 04 October 2019. Just saying.What's the alternative? Deliver a ****ty version that isn't properly color matched just to meet a deadline?
Post by: steezkeez on Tue, 04 May 2021, 16:24:08
Google told me it's been 578 days since 04 October 2019. Just saying.What's the alternative? Deliver a ****ty version that isn't properly color matched just to meet a deadline?
*cough* gmk 8008 *cough*
Post by: AvoidingYou on Tue, 04 May 2021, 18:26:17
Post by: L4ll1g470r on Tue, 04 May 2021, 19:16:47
Yes, round 2 when nobody still knows what color the set actually is. Thats pretty high on the alternative chart!Google told me it's been 578 days since 04 October 2019. Just saying.What's the alternative? Deliver a ****ty version that isn't properly color matched just to meet a deadline?
Post by: ab042896 on Tue, 04 May 2021, 19:29:13
Post by: itsmartin on Tue, 04 May 2021, 20:01:42
So what is the projected delivery date? The latest Omnitype update says June 2021.
Two months ago they made that update, so that will depend on when they expected colour matching to be completed and if they can make their production slot still... But realistically they won't have an exact date yet.
I imagine that now they're happy with colours they've told GMK, and then GMK will give an update on when production will be and then they can share if its any different.
Post by: Tekniqs on Tue, 04 May 2021, 21:14:03
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Post by: naasfu on Wed, 05 May 2021, 03:55:29
if the colors do come out like they should, then this should be an awesome set. totally worth the 3 year wait hehe.
Post by: Sycomore on Wed, 05 May 2021, 06:49:31
Is Dracula in the back of production que? Or does it get some type of priority?
People previously have said that it gets queue priority
Post by: bubbletea on Wed, 05 May 2021, 08:39:31
Post by: directheatedtriode on Wed, 05 May 2021, 10:02:24
Take orders for R2 already to lump in with R1?? ^-^
That wouldn't be a big **** you to people that have been waiting 2.5 years
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 05 May 2021, 10:14:26
Take orders for R2 already to lump in with R1?? ^-^
That wouldn't be a big **** you to people that have been waiting 2.5 years
You're right it wouldn't, since they'll still get their set and other people would have the opportunity to jump in too.
Or did you want your keyset to stay exclusive and have small numbers for some reason? Why would that be?
Post by: Buster69 on Wed, 05 May 2021, 12:54:18
Take orders for R2 already to lump in with R1?? ^-^
That wouldn't be a big **** you to people that have been waiting 2.5 years
You're right it wouldn't, since they'll still get their set and other people would have the opportunity to jump in too.
Or did you want your keyset to stay exclusive and have small numbers for some reason? Why would that be?
Ya, we want the keyset to stay exclusive for now because we did our time in the trenches.
I am sure this set will be ran many more times like GMK Laser - IF the set comes out nicely which is why a vendor would not open the floodgates now. Risk. R2's exist and usually have small revisions. And who even knows if GMK can just double or triple a production order. I don't know, I'm no hamster scientist.
This has been talked about into the ground. There are walls of text a couple of pages back, avail yourself. New subject :))
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 05 May 2021, 12:57:59
Take orders for R2 already to lump in with R1?? ^-^
That wouldn't be a big **** you to people that have been waiting 2.5 years
You're right it wouldn't, since they'll still get their set and other people would have the opportunity to jump in too.
Or did you want your keyset to stay exclusive and have small numbers for some reason? Why would that be?
Ya, we want the keyset to stay exclusive for now because we did our time in the trenches.
I am sure this set will be ran many more times like GMK Laser - IF the set comes out nicely which is why a vendor would not open the floodgates now. Risk. R2's exist and usually have small revisions. And who even knows if GMK can just double or triple a production order. I don't know, I'm no hamster scientist.
This has been talked about into the ground. There are walls of text a couple of pages back, avail yourself. New subject :))
No vendor will care about how much time you invested waiting for their product. If they feel there is a way to make more profit they will.
Post by: Buster69 on Wed, 05 May 2021, 13:01:32
Take orders for R2 already to lump in with R1?? ^-^
That wouldn't be a big **** you to people that have been waiting 2.5 years
You're right it wouldn't, since they'll still get their set and other people would have the opportunity to jump in too.
Or did you want your keyset to stay exclusive and have small numbers for some reason? Why would that be?
Ya, we want the keyset to stay exclusive for now because we did our time in the trenches.
I am sure this set will be ran many more times like GMK Laser - IF the set comes out nicely which is why a vendor would not open the floodgates now. Risk. R2's exist and usually have small revisions. And who even knows if GMK can just double or triple a production order. I don't know, I'm no hamster scientist.
This has been talked about into the ground. There are walls of text a couple of pages back, avail yourself. New subject :))
No vendor will care about how much time you invested waiting for their product. If they feel there is a way to make more profit they will.
You are a regular Warren Buffet lol. Dead subject
Post by: WetRacoon on Thu, 06 May 2021, 00:28:38
The poles did not fare much better, as one hundred years of rebellion and civil war left nothing but a wreckage of lost hope, hope for a rescued future. Hope for survival. What wandered the vast frozen research facilities now wasnt Homo Sapiens. It was Homo Abominis. What redeemable aspects of the human form there were before were now lost to time, and this newer more savage form it retained the worst of us. To rape and to pillage. This was the new destiny.
It would be dishonest to claim the state of the globe was mankinds doing alone; the Great Annihilator had ensured that it drank deeply from the wound of a dying animal. None saw their true form. All that was ever visible was the monstrous, eldritch ships, hung dark in the sky as feeding cables strung like lights met the surface of the planet. The alien must have been disappointed to see a planet which had consumed itself, when they had such hunger to consume it themselves. This did not stop them from taking specimens for their own experiments.
It could be said that there was still some improvement on this dying world; damnation was equal. Damnation for the poor. Damnation for the rich. Income equality vanished, along with income. The Slug Lords, ruinous pits of lust and consumption, using the desperate and poor for their own vile needs grasped at their rule for a decade. Suffice to say, the alien did find plentiful nutrition when they turned down the offer from the shadow of the formerly rich; their phallic feeding tubes instead buried themselves into their negotiators, the soft protein driving the war engines of the Annihilator towards its next inexorable conquest.
We find ourselves here then. At the end of all stories. Perhaps the universe is what was that? The earth shudders in a dozen locations. Secret vaults open. Salvation may lay inside. There is more to tell.
The year is 2299. Dracula has finished color matching.
Post by: ab042896 on Thu, 06 May 2021, 09:27:13
That wouldn't be a big **** you to people that have been waiting 2.5 years
Ya, we want the keyset to stay exclusive for now because we did our time in the trenches.
No vendor will care about how much time you invested waiting for their product. If they feel there is a way to make more profit they will.
just to hop on, if you personally see added value in your purchase of a consumer product by virtue of others not having access to it, IMO that is such a miserable mentality. But hey, at the end of the day I guess that's what Group Buys create, a special sense of belonging and exclusivity.
I hope for everyone in on this GB's sake that the colours turn out great, and more round(s) are offered up to those that missed out so anyone can enjoy what will hopefully be an excellent set.
...just wanted to devolve the thread a little more ;)
Post by: Buster69 on Thu, 06 May 2021, 19:25:14
That wouldn't be a big **** you to people that have been waiting 2.5 years
Ya, we want the keyset to stay exclusive for now because we did our time in the trenches.
No vendor will care about how much time you invested waiting for their product. If they feel there is a way to make more profit they will.
just to hop on, if you personally see added value in your purchase of a consumer product by virtue of others not having access to it, IMO that is such a miserable mentality. But hey, at the end of the day I guess that's what Group Buys create, a special sense of belonging and exclusivity.
I hope for everyone in on this GB's sake that the colours turn out great, and more round(s) are offered up to those that missed out so anyone can enjoy what will hopefully be an excellent set.
...just wanted to devolve the thread a little more ;)
It was mostly a joke lol. I provided reasoning why it wouldn't be feasible to just open up more orders before R1 even ships... Just tired of the whining and the subject has been beat to death in here
Post by: andreiborisov on Fri, 07 May 2021, 10:13:43
Post by: regionfree on Mon, 10 May 2021, 04:04:05
Post by: rookybomb on Mon, 10 May 2021, 17:04:36
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 10 May 2021, 19:39:45
Post by: Auracity on Mon, 10 May 2021, 20:54:33
Is Dracula in the back of production que? Or does it get some type of priority?
People previously have said that it gets queue priority
Is Dracula in the back of production que? Or does it get some type of priority?
Production is queued before colour matching is finished.
Post by: cutemelon on Mon, 10 May 2021, 23:22:09
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Post by: Cloakedbug on Tue, 18 May 2021, 22:31:19
Throw us a little tasty bone maybe :P
Post by: audax989 on Wed, 19 May 2021, 01:39:22
Post by: Pylon on Wed, 19 May 2021, 22:20:18
https://omnitype.com/blogs/timelines/gmk-dracula
Still a bit disappointing given that it's going to be almost 2 years since GB once it ships, and I was hoping for higher production priority from GMK, but it's likely that they're constrained by the lead times of their plastic resin supplier and that GMK themselves can't do much about that. It's also 3000 sets, which is a lot.
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 20 May 2021, 06:46:05
Still a bit disappointing given that it's going to be almost 2 years since GB once it ships, and I was hoping for higher production priority from GMK, but it's likely that they're constrained by the lead times of their plastic resin supplier and that GMK themselves can't do much about that. It's also 3000 sets, which is a lot.
I hear what you're saying but I'm just ecstatic that it is even going to exist while I'm still alive. For a bit it was looking like it was the keyset of vampires, for vampires.
Post by: WHAT!? on Thu, 20 May 2021, 11:18:30
Gonna go from none of it to all of it. lol
Now I just have to make it through the next few weeks resisting the urge to order the R2 of Dual Shot...
Post by: neah12 on Wed, 26 May 2021, 16:45:00
Post by: tonyjones on Tue, 27 July 2021, 11:37:28
Post by: solomonshv on Tue, 03 August 2021, 20:29:45
Ya, we want the keyset to stay exclusive for now because we did our time in the trenches.
I am sure this set will be ran many more times like GMK Laser - IF the set comes out nicely which is why a vendor would not open the floodgates now. Risk. R2's exist and usually have small revisions. And who even knows if GMK can just double or triple a production order. I don't know, I'm no hamster scientist.
This has been talked about into the ground. There are walls of text a couple of pages back, avail yourself. New subject :))
i have 2 base kits on order and i would be very happy if vendors were able to increase their initial order for more extras so that more people could get in on this GB. i missed out on the darling gb (was traveling and forgot to buy) and it would have been awesome if there were more extras to go around.
Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 03 September 2021, 11:40:18
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Post by: A.Belousov on Fri, 03 September 2021, 11:48:25
Post by: mr_foggy on Fri, 03 September 2021, 11:53:58
and now the hunt for extras begins
Post by: dak148 on Fri, 03 September 2021, 12:21:49
Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 03 September 2021, 12:47:31
Is this a record for longest gb to in-hand GMK set?
Yes.
With the way that Modern Dolch shipping went, we may have these in hand in 4 or 5 more months!
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 03 September 2021, 13:00:30
Is this a record for longest gb to in-hand GMK set?
Unless you wanna count the OG round of hyperfuse
Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 03 September 2021, 13:13:15
Is this a record for longest gb to in-hand GMK set?
Unless you wanna count the OG round of hyperfuse
That's a fair point to make.
Plenty of people do have complete sets of OG Hyperfuse in hand. The way the keys were handled is completely different from "modern" GMK, too, so slightly different situation.
Post by: _rubik on Fri, 03 September 2021, 19:24:05
Is this a record for longest gb to in-hand GMK set?
Part of me is super sad for sleeping on this 2 years ago. The other part is happy I didn't have to wait _this long_
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 03 September 2021, 23:09:33
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 03 September 2021, 23:18:32
Is this a record for longest gb to in-hand GMK set?
hyperfuse and toxic defo took longer, and there are a few that took like 18-20 months
there are a number of others that are looking like they may end up taking as long or longer
this is definitely the longest one with no drama attached, at this point
Post by: Norato on Sun, 05 September 2021, 18:08:31
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 07 September 2021, 09:37:07
(https://i.imgur.com/121OEBn.jpg)
Post by: Visionaire on Tue, 07 September 2021, 11:41:21
It's finally here, after almost 2 years of color matching limboShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/121OEBn.jpg)
Looks just like the renders!
Post by: norb on Tue, 07 September 2021, 11:42:17
(https://image.emojipng.com/13/119013.jpg)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 07 September 2021, 12:18:04
Post by: _rubik on Tue, 07 September 2021, 13:50:43
It's finally here, after almost 2 years of color matching limboShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/121OEBn.jpg)
Needs more jpeg
Post by: directheatedtriode on Tue, 07 September 2021, 15:38:14
Post by: geewiz on Wed, 08 September 2021, 03:02:40
Looks like a total color match failure to me. Can't believe I wait two years for this.
Not only that, the key texture on that picture looks totally grainy as well. I've seen PBT caps better than that.
Post by: TheStig on Thu, 16 September 2021, 13:08:23
This is from a Reddit post:
(https://i.redd.it/2bxx1dt0yvn71.jpg)
Is it me or do the alphas look way too blue?
Render for reference:
(https://i.imgur.com/Zv7gIb2.png)
Post by: Tekniqs on Thu, 16 September 2021, 13:13:53
Post by: _rubik on Thu, 16 September 2021, 13:18:22
Looks like that photo was taken in the evening under direct, fluorescent or some equally unnatural light. I'd be curious to see the same board during the day with natural light.
Post by: TheStig on Thu, 16 September 2021, 13:25:16
Lighting conditions seem sub-optimal and can seriously impact the way a set looks.
Looks like that photo was taken in the evening under direct, fluorescent or some equally unnatural light. I'd be curious to see the same board during the day with natural light.
Yeah, the OP did mention it was under direct light and that it looks better under normal conditions. Should be plenty of photos soon enough.
Post by: DukeEsquire on Thu, 16 September 2021, 13:50:50
Looks like people are receiving their sets now.
This is from a Reddit post:Show Image(https://i.redd.it/2bxx1dt0yvn71.jpg)
Is it me or do the alphas look way too blue?
Render for reference:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Zv7gIb2.png)
No way to tell unless you see it in natural sunlight.
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 16 September 2021, 14:17:15
Quote from: GarrettSucks
We spent many hours tweaking these renders to be the best representation of the real-life product. Do not trust photos you see of this product.
Post by: pott on Thu, 16 September 2021, 14:29:28
I am confused about the Minify kit.
40s commonly have a 1.25 r3 key to the left. In this kit, there is only Tab. But a 1u tab is included for r2... So... why? Here we have 4 Esc keys for, likely, only 1 being used, but also only 1 r3 1.25 even though folks commonly use Fn or Control there, AND it clashes with a redundant key for r2.
This feels very short-sighted: it creates wasted keys and removes compatibility with common keymaps. It 'forces' a 1.25 Tab at r3 and thus a redundant Tab at r1 or one of too many Escapes.
40s kits need to do be better.
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 16 September 2021, 15:01:06
Looks like people are receiving their sets now.
This is from a Reddit post:Show Image(https://i.redd.it/2bxx1dt0yvn71.jpg)
Is it me or do the alphas look way too blue?
Render for reference:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Zv7gIb2.png)
That's goddamn hilarious. ;D
Post by: leeloo on Thu, 16 September 2021, 15:17:24
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/481802937375653889/888034763003289640/IMG_20210910_173439.jpg?width=882&height=662)
Post by: Nebulant on Thu, 16 September 2021, 15:24:08
https://imgur.com/a/D3kPxpJ
Post by: Tekniqs on Thu, 16 September 2021, 16:19:54
Someone posted a second picture in the same thread.Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/481802937375653889/888034763003289640/IMG_20210910_173439.jpg?width=882&height=662)
def looks way better here
Post by: elmo on Thu, 16 September 2021, 16:36:25
Looks like people are receiving their sets now.
This is from a Reddit post:Show Image(https://i.redd.it/2bxx1dt0yvn71.jpg)
Is it me or do the alphas look way too blue?
Render for reference:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Zv7gIb2.png)
Unwritten rule of r/mk:
The first person to get a new GMK set and post a photo of it must take it under the absolute worst lighting conditions possible and with every dumb color correction function of your phone camera enabled to make the set look extra ****ty.
And then a bunch of idiots that don't understand how photography lighting works will come along and complain about how bad the color matching is.
Happens literally every single time now.
Post by: _rubik on Thu, 16 September 2021, 19:07:54
Looks like people are receiving their sets now.
This is from a Reddit post:Show Image(https://i.redd.it/2bxx1dt0yvn71.jpg)
Is it me or do the alphas look way too blue?
Render for reference:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Zv7gIb2.png)
Unwritten rule of r/mk:
The first person to get a new GMK set and post a photo of it must take it under the absolute worst lighting conditions possible and with every dumb color correction function of your phone camera enabled to make the set look extra ****ty.
And then a bunch of idiots that don't understand how photography lighting works will come along and complain about how bad the color matching is.
Happens literally every single time now.
I still have that one garbage photo of GMK Solarized Dark burned into my eyes. I can't unsee it no matter how hard I try
Edit: this one... viewer discretion is advised
More
(https://i.imgur.com/8hmoiKa.jpeg)
Post by: TheStig on Thu, 16 September 2021, 19:21:27
I also took some quick pictures of the approved color samples under various lighting conditions.
https://imgur.com/a/D3kPxpJ
Someone posted a second picture in the same thread.Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/481802937375653889/888034763003289640/IMG_20210910_173439.jpg?width=882&height=662)
Oh wow I completely underestimated the difference lighting makes... Lesson learnt.
Post by: PeppyToad on Thu, 16 September 2021, 22:38:34
Unwritten rule of r/mk:
The first person to get a new GMK set and post a photo of it must take it under the absolute worst lighting conditions possible and with every dumb color correction function of your phone camera enabled to make the set look extra ****ty.
And then a bunch of idiots that don't understand how photography lighting works will come along and complain about how bad the color matching is.
Happens literally every single time now.
So true. I still remember that green Bingsu posted somewhere...
Post by: euphxenos on Thu, 16 September 2021, 23:54:28
Post by: sevenseacat on Fri, 17 September 2021, 00:12:36
I still have that one garbage photo of GMK Solarized Dark burned into my eyes. I can't unsee it no matter how hard I try
Edit: this one... viewer discretion is advisedMoreShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/8hmoiKa.jpeg)
Is it bad that I think the set looks fine there?
Post by: nettik on Fri, 17 September 2021, 01:37:32
Post by: elmo on Fri, 17 September 2021, 03:34:30
Solarized Dark's colors by themselves are fine. But when you compare it to the renders and what people were expecting to receive... oh boy. There's a reason there was so much backlash against the set when it released. GMK Necro is another set that was very off from its renders.
Sure colormatching can fail if you do it wrong or use the wrong methods and did so in the past for some sets.
Sol Dark was probably my favorite fails since it looked nothing like the renders but still ended up being a really nice looking set.
Necro and Plum are a different story though...
But with the technology that Omnitype (and many other groupbuy runners) now use for their colormatching it is very unlikely to get a set that has the colors that far off.
Nebulant (the guy who does all the colormatching) uses a spectrophotometer to match the samples. You can't really get more accurate results than that.
Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 17 September 2021, 10:06:08
(https://i.imgur.com/VmEPlaV.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/sCsv5rL.jpg)
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 17 September 2021, 10:14:00
Okay, to set everything straight. Here are two shots I took and white balanced. Taken in natural overcast light.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VmEPlaV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sCsv5rL.jpg)
Ugh, that's awful. Everyone please send me your GMK Dracula sets without opening them. I will take them off your hands for free.
(Those pics look fantastic. Look forward to getting my kit from Omni/Dixie.)
Post by: A.Belousov on Fri, 17 September 2021, 10:30:01
Post by: _rubik on Fri, 17 September 2021, 11:05:46
Okay, to set everything straight. Here are two shots I took and white balanced. Taken in natural overcast light.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VmEPlaV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sCsv5rL.jpg)
Those look wonderful! Accurate photos are the best photos; no need to boost saturation/gamma when the source material is already gorgeous.
Post by: pikku-allu on Fri, 17 September 2021, 11:39:34
Those look wonderful! Accurate photos are the best photos; no need to boost saturation/gamma when the source material is already gorgeous.
The accent colors are so beautiful and vibrant. They downright appear to be glowing in direct sunlight.
Post by: nvh2092 on Fri, 17 September 2021, 11:54:54
Post by: andreiborisov on Fri, 17 September 2021, 13:17:50
Okay, to set everything straight. Here are two shots I took and white balanced. Taken in natural overcast light.We all know that can be a render when it comes from pikku-allu hahaShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/VmEPlaV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sCsv5rL.jpg)
On a more serious note I would love to see how err module looks
Post by: ctrl+shift+n on Fri, 17 September 2021, 16:24:28
Post by: Baionlenja on Thu, 23 September 2021, 03:32:41
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Post by: A.Belousov on Thu, 23 September 2021, 03:35:37
Post by: dexie on Thu, 23 September 2021, 06:53:15
Post by: dexie on Thu, 23 September 2021, 07:02:06
How did you get it if it still on the way from Germany to Omnitype? Or i too late to know they already got it and shipping to customers already started? :))
European orders shipped to customers this week
Post by: s3vv4 on Thu, 23 September 2021, 13:18:45
Post by: pikku-allu on Thu, 23 September 2021, 19:22:23
Here are some shots of Nightmode & ERR! modules in use:
(https://i.imgur.com/uOQlYeO.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/OhcmNWO.jpg)
Post by: LevelSteam on Tue, 28 September 2021, 19:40:41
Post by: tonyjones on Wed, 29 September 2021, 10:25:34
Post by: Wickles on Wed, 29 September 2021, 15:59:16
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 30 September 2021, 08:15:07
Post by: ShandonCodes on Thu, 30 September 2021, 12:46:27
Post by: wunderninja on Fri, 01 October 2021, 20:06:07
Post by: Wickles on Sat, 02 October 2021, 07:07:33
I appreciate the effort it took to achieve this level of accuracy! Majority of pictures circulating right now don't do Dracula justice.
It is honestly a very beautiful set. I imagine there will be a R2 in future, given all the colour matching is done now! ;D
Post by: ReverbSlush on Sat, 02 October 2021, 09:46:59
Majority of pictures circulating right now don't do Dracula justice.
I'm really trying hard to reserve my judgement until I get the set.... so far the pictures I have seen have the alphas looking more like a denim blue than the IC/renders. I can't say I'm not worried. That said, the overwhelmingly positive response from ppl who have the set keeps me hopeful!
Post by: Joshimitsu on Wed, 06 October 2021, 06:24:14
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 06 October 2021, 08:11:56
Anyone received there's from mykeyboard.eu yet? Specifically UK buyers?
Only orders above 135 GBP (vat excluded) can be shipped atm. Your order total needs to be about 200 with the Belgium VAT to be shipped until they receive their UK VAT number.
Post by: Joshimitsu on Wed, 06 October 2021, 08:33:16
Anyone received there's from mykeyboard.eu yet? Specifically UK buyers?
Only orders above 135 GBP (vat excluded) can be shipped atm. Your order total needs to be about 200 with the Belgium VAT to be shipped until they receive their UK VAT number.
My order total was over 250 with tax, but they did refund some money a week or two ago with a very basic "dracula tax refund" message or similar via PayPal.
Regardless, if they are going to keep my money and my item indefinitely, they ought to be contacting me to let me know!
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 06 October 2021, 09:43:09
Anyone received there's from mykeyboard.eu yet? Specifically UK buyers?
Only orders above 135 GBP (vat excluded) can be shipped atm. Your order total needs to be about 200 with the Belgium VAT to be shipped until they receive their UK VAT number.
My order total was over 250 with tax, but they did refund some money a week or two ago with a very basic "dracula tax refund" message or similar via PayPal.
Regardless, if they are going to keep my money and my item indefinitely, they ought to be contacting me to let me know!
If you got the VAT refund your item was processed.
Check your spam folder for tracking information, else feel free to get in contact with the support-channel on their discord or send a ticket via e-mail.
There are many GB's that came in the last 2 weeks, and shipping is slower than usual as they have to juggle the different GB's.
Post by: Joshimitsu on Thu, 07 October 2021, 10:49:21
If you got the VAT refund your item was processed.
Check your spam folder for tracking information, else feel free to get in contact with the support-channel on their discord or send a ticket via e-mail.
There are many GB's that came in the last 2 weeks, and shipping is slower than usual as they have to juggle the different GB's.
OK, I checked my junk email and indeed I have a lot of emails from DHL asking for customs payment. Luckily tomorrow is the last day before they return the item, so I have paid now and should hopefully receive the item soon.
I am a little concerned that emails from mykeyboard.eu might be going to spam, despite having had email conversations with them previously. I'm still waiting to hear on replacement keys for the extra mods set from KAM Little Pilot...
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 12 October 2021, 15:03:47
I'm really trying hard to reserve my judgement until I get the set.... so far the pictures I have seen have the alphas looking more like a denim blue than the IC/renders. I can't say I'm not worried. That said, the overwhelmingly positive response from ppl who have the set keeps me hopeful!
OK! gotta eat my shoe on this one. Colors look great in person. Excellent job all around and worth the wait.
Post by: LevelSteam on Tue, 12 October 2021, 18:54:40
I'm really trying hard to reserve my judgement until I get the set.... so far the pictures I have seen have the alphas looking more like a denim blue than the IC/renders. I can't say I'm not worried. That said, the overwhelmingly positive response from ppl who have the set keeps me hopeful!
OK! gotta eat my shoe on this one. Colors look great in person. Excellent job all around and worth the wait.
Like GMK Ashes the blue-gray of the alphas on Dracula is fairly hard to capture accurately with my phone's camera so I figured I wouldn't post any pics of my set/kits for exactly this reason lol
It really did turn out very close to the renders imo and the stickers were a fun touch.
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Wed, 13 October 2021, 08:23:57
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Post by: mta on Fri, 15 October 2021, 15:15:29
Post by: nettik on Fri, 15 October 2021, 16:25:51
Post by: Randalljai on Sat, 16 October 2021, 03:21:19
I hope they sell the extras soon! Got in on this GB before I was into 40% keyboards and now I need a Minify kit
do you know if there will be extras?
Post by: brighenne on Sat, 16 October 2021, 13:25:01
I hope they sell the extras soon! Got in on this GB before I was into 40% keyboards and now I need a Minify kit
do you know if there will be extras?
Yes. There will always be extras.
Post by: pott on Sat, 16 October 2021, 21:56:54
Post by: oilpapers on Thu, 21 October 2021, 06:05:48
Post by: radam on Thu, 21 October 2021, 10:17:24
Post by: oilpapers on Thu, 21 October 2021, 15:08:50
Post by: OmegaZero55 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 22:48:38
I assume Omnitype? Well guess I missed those, lol. I'm in the UK anyway 😭Yeah and don't feel too bad, it was a rather frustrating experience. Shop crapped out, and the site didn't even work for me on mobile. I was able to grab a base kit after like 11 minutes, but wasn't able to get any of the other kits I wanted.
Post by: Jsx2005 on Fri, 22 October 2021, 00:22:33
Post by: oilpapers on Fri, 22 October 2021, 07:43:40
Post by: tonyjones on Fri, 22 October 2021, 15:12:42
Post by: alwaysbless on Fri, 22 October 2021, 16:55:47
Post by: nettik on Fri, 22 October 2021, 23:38:58
Post by: Jsx2005 on Sat, 23 October 2021, 00:35:59
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Post by: audax989 on Sun, 24 October 2021, 05:13:01
Im still in. Will pay $300 for core + highlight module if anyone has extra.
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you can use the classifieds for this.
Post by: Domantas on Wed, 03 November 2021, 17:20:52
Post by: Jsx2005 on Fri, 05 November 2021, 11:53:15
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 05 November 2021, 12:05:32
How do we convince GMK to do another round of Dracula?
Another round is already in the works. https://www.instagram.com/p/CVtDL6gPq2L/
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 05 November 2021, 18:36:28
How do we convince GMK to do another round of Dracula?
Buy it Monday! Now w new mod options.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Mon, 08 November 2021, 05:18:43
Thanks so much Pikku - Absolutely stunning.
(https://i.imgur.com/If0djc2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/uiIGRSW.png)
Post by: oilpapers on Mon, 08 November 2021, 11:09:08
Post by: GetRickRolld on Mon, 08 November 2021, 18:44:05
Post by: KKoNaM on Tue, 09 November 2021, 05:51:20
V2 is out yey. and how long is the waittime gonna be? 2 yrs?
You can just wait for extras. Considering the base kits pricing, the MOQ seems insane for R2
Post by: norb on Tue, 09 November 2021, 10:56:13
Post by: euphxenos on Tue, 09 November 2021, 14:06:46
https://omnitype.com/collections/gmk-dracula-v2-0
Look at the kits carefully before buying. They're not the same as the kits shown in this thread, and I don't think there was an IC thread to discuss the new kitting. I noticed that some keys I use moved out of the base into an Extension kit in V2.
Post by: norb on Tue, 09 November 2021, 14:18:52
V2 is being sold by Omnitype here:
https://omnitype.com/collections/gmk-dracula-v2-0
Look at the kits carefully before buying. They're not the same as the kits shown in this thread, and I don't think there was an IC thread to discuss the new kitting. I noticed that some keys I use moved out of the base into an Extension kit in V2.
thanks!
euro-proxy is https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-dracula-v2?variant=42019912909035 (https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-dracula-v2?variant=42019912909035) this time and not mykeyboard.eu as r1.
Post by: oilpapers on Wed, 10 November 2021, 01:49:30
V2 is out yey. and how long is the waittime gonna be? 2 yrs?
You can just wait for extras. Considering the base kits pricing, the MOQ seems insane for R2
Extras were already sold and are long gone 🙃
Post by: KKoNaM on Wed, 10 November 2021, 02:16:52
V2 is out yey. and how long is the waittime gonna be? 2 yrs?
You can just wait for extras. Considering the base kits pricing, the MOQ seems insane for R2
Extras were already sold and are long gone 🙃
Bruuh, I mean R2 extras 🙃
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 10 November 2021, 19:04:01
V2 is out yey. and how long is the waittime gonna be? 2 yrs?
You can just wait for extras. Considering the base kits pricing, the MOQ seems insane for R2
dracula r1 was one of the bestselling sets of all time, i don't think it's that crazy
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 11 November 2021, 06:25:50
Post by: pikku-allu on Thu, 11 November 2021, 10:54:34