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Title: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 13:48:05
Groupbuy for dyesub legends on Cherry profile PBT keycap. All sets are 1.25 modifiers and include both fulltouch and stepped caps lock and universal 6.25 spacebar. ISO sets will not come with an enter key due to no mold existing for it so you will be on your own to source one from elsewhere.
Payment DUE 29 July. Orders closed 10 Jul. 2013. No extras available

!UPDATE: 7 November 2013, all orders shipped.

FAQ:
Can you change my order to X, Y, Z?
No, but you can. Make sure to save the link you are given after submitting the order form. If you missed it simply enter a new order. Thanks.

Will you mark my customs as $XX?
Yes. I will mark all international order as gift, $10 by default unless directed otherwise.

Prices:
Blank set: $55
Printed set (any style): $75
RGB 6 key set (RGB B profile 1.25, 2.25, 2.75 keys with black legend): $20
Single E row (R1) 1x keys: $2.50
Shipping: Calculated based on what is ordered and destination. Each set weighs approx 5oz. ALL orders will be shipped by me via USPS.
Additional fees: $2 groupbuy fee, buyer pays all paypal fees.

Styles available with Cherry style legends on white/beige key base:

(http://i.imgur.com/VpFLVcg.jpg)
Black - US standard - ANSI [MOQ met]

(http://i.imgur.com/BaHw6yL.jpg)
Red - US standard - ANSI [MOQ met]

(http://i.imgur.com/xW0J6Hb.jpg)
Blue - US standard - ANSI [MOQ met]

(http://i.imgur.com/D70AaS8.jpg)
Green - US standard - ANSI [MOQ met]

(http://i.imgur.com/N19KGhk.png)
Irish - US Intl. - ANSI [MOQ met]

(http://i.imgur.com/dW5OBYz.png)
Ural - US/RU - ANSI [MOQ met]

(http://i.imgur.com/xRDbUaA.png)
Miami (Odessa Mix) Limited - US/UA - ANSI [MOQ met]


(http://i.imgur.com/pXXUdyq.png)
Blank - ANSI [MOQ met]

Also offering the following sets and novelty keys:


RGB modifiers kit - ANSI

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 13:48:20
Novelty / Single Keys:
Available as E 1x1 default is WHITE key, but may also choose light grey/beige
(http://i.imgur.com/TJqwlcg.png)
Cherry logo proper / red switch

(http://i.imgur.com/nMte635.png)
Cherry logo black switch

(http://i.imgur.com/cN8YS3U.png)
Cherry logo grey linear switch

(http://i.imgur.com/NT85LdM.png)
Cherry logo blue switch

(http://i.imgur.com/3KBuehI.png)
Cherry logo green switch

(http://i.imgur.com/uARg8VG.png)
Cherry logo white or clear switch (!this will not look good on a beige cap!)

(http://i.imgur.com/ORYYW8Q.png)
Cherry logo brown switch

(http://i.imgur.com/lUWdWka.png)
Cherry logo grey tactile switch

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Acetrak on Wed, 08 May 2013, 13:55:53
coooooooool
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: realex on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:06:00
so it begins.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:08:24
Nice idea by mixing the preferred (such as Miami and OCKC) colorways with obscure legends to up your MOQ. Very smart marketing. :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: UniClown on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:08:36
 ;D Let it commence! ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:12:01
Regular PBT or thick PBT?  Looking forward to mock-ups!

ETA: Ural and Morocco sound neat!  Also want to see the aquamarine/pink :eek:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:12:29
Is the white/beige referring to 2-tone sets or an attempt at describing the one color that ALL the caps will be?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:13:56
This time is 2tone classic except for the Diablo and Starcraft themed sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Grim Fandango on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:18:59
Some of these are super nice. Damn, I already have more sets than I need. Hmmm. Contemplating.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:19:03
So do I get this right:

The Red - US standard - ANSI | DE - ISO will be a 99% german set with all the umlauts n stuff, german legends on the number row and have an ANSI Enter key?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:24:12
Tempted :3 tho finding 1.5x won't be that hard but an iso enter, well that might prove to be harder.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:25:26
ISO sets will have the 1.25 left shift, extra B row alpha, extra C row alpha, all of the correct legends for their standard layout with no enter key. ISO set buyers will have to source an ISO enter from PBT lasered Cherry set or whatever they feel most acceptable.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:30:00
Thanks for clarifying!

I am interested in 3 of those sets, but I will wait for mockups before I place my order.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Binge on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:32:01
would be absolutely amazing if I could get a short right shift or other options :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:32:34
Oh. My. GirlShark WizBro. A StarCraft themed set AND Miami??

CPTBadAss suffers from dehydration because of all his drooling
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:34:50
My white and grey two-tone set is going to get jealous.  What are the Windows keys going to look like?  Is there any chance of this set NOT having the Windows 8 style logo? 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:38:50
miami ordered

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: keymaster on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:39:59
Wow... these are amazing.. dat imsto starcraft
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dianoda on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:41:17
So, which keycaps are which colors for the white and gray sets?

Does the red set include all the US ANSI keys, too? ie, this:

[attachimg=1]

edit: Okay, so there are two red sets - a US ANSI version and a DE ISO version, got it.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: xavierblak on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:46:46
Definitely in for at least one set. I'll wait for the full set mockups before I decide. I'm loving my set from the first group buy, but regretting not going for a more colorful set. These options should cure that.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:53:24
Yes some colorways have more than one layout option, which are separated by | character. For example the Miami set comes in US/Ukrainian and Spanish/Ukrainian for that Miami/Odessa connection.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:55:08
Now you know I had to order the Miami (Odessa Mix) set. :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:57:09
I will be keeping an eye on this thread!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:58:41
can't we simply reorganize the Colemak set to get a QWERTY set? Correct me if I'm wrong.

nope.
the keyprofiles are different (try it and mix some keycaps from different rows to see how it would end up)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:01:48
No not really, Colemak has bunch of character assigned on other rows. If they were all on the same rows there would be no reason to make a special set for it.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/KB_Colemak.png)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:15:24
Lysol can we have the damn Window key with the regular cherry look instead the Windows 8 legend look?

Can we at least vote on this matter and see what people think, the old legend looks much more appealing than the Win8
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Loligagger on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:16:07
Any possibility of (blank) 1.75x R4 keys?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:22:20
So are they shipped to you from China, and then ship out again internationally?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:25:49
By the way:

Why is the blank set 5$ more expensive than in the first round while the printed sets are still 75$?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:29:33
These are two-tone sets, right? Will the E and B row keys be beige or white? Or do we get to choose the color?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: cgbuen on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:31:59
Will the fulltouch caps lock be the proper tone this time around?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:34:25
There is not a 1.75 B row mold, believe me I would love to offer it as with the ISO enter and 1.5 mods... but they don't have those at the keycap factory. I might start a fund to collect money to have the molds produced but they are quite expensive.

There will be optional single 1.25 replacement keys with other stuff on them which I have not posted up yet. If you don't like Win8 legend or any Windows at all for that matter you will have choices.

I am going to do all the shipping this time due to how long it took with imsto shipping orders last time. I appreciated all the work he did for that but there were also quite a bit of complaints from buyers. I think I have more free time to do all the sorting and packing and so on, so it can probably be done quicker if I do it all.

Alphas are white, modifiers and such are beige. The fulltouch capslock will be beige like it supposed to be.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:38:20
There will be optional single 1.25 replacement keys with other stuff on them which I have not posted up yet. If you don't like Win8 legend or any Windows at all for that matter you will have choices.

If this sets a trend of replacement thick PBT modifier keys, you are a hero.  I want some flair, dammit!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:43:12
Why does the Colemak set come with non-Colemak legends?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:55:13
There is not a 1.75 B row mold, believe me I would love to offer it as with the ISO enter and 1.5 mods... but they don't have those at the keycap factory. I might start a fund to collect money to have the molds produced but they are quite expensive.

There will be optional single 1.25 replacement keys with other stuff on them which I have not posted up yet. If you don't like Win8 legend or any Windows at all for that matter you will have choices.

I am going to do all the shipping this time due to how long it took with imsto shipping orders last time. I appreciated all the work he did for that but there were also quite a bit of complaints from buyers. I think I have more free time to do all the sorting and packing and so on, so it can probably be done quicker if I do it all.

Alphas are white, modifiers and such are beige. The fulltouch capslock will be beige like it supposed to be.

awesome, having a choice to have the old stock win logo sounds awesome. BTW do you have this option in the order page, going to order the ruskie set with gray and orange
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 16:00:31
I'm still working on all the single keys and have not posted them yet.

Colemak have all the extended legend from Alt Gr layer (http://colemak.com/wiki/index.php?title=Multilingual) too, see the keymap in earlier post.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jil_jil32 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 16:22:03
All the standard legends will be the same as the previous GB right Ivan?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 16:35:35
Ivan in the order form there is no choice for the Windows key...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 08 May 2013, 16:58:14
Miami? Interested :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 08 May 2013, 17:00:47
Will we also be able to order other colors in languages? For instance, US/RU in Black and Charcoal/Red?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 17:12:44
Will we also be able to order other colors in languages? For instance, US/RU in Black and Charcoal/Red?

seems for the US/RUS is only gray/orange, which is doable but I would rather have the black/red
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 17:37:34
I will make a separate form for the novelty/single keys once I finish with it. The options you see are what there is. Will consider doing repeats from first round next time.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 17:49:46
I will make a separate form for the novelty/single keys once I finish with it. The options you see are what there is. Will consider doing repeats from first round next time.

ok then ordering my ruskie set now :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 17:52:57
Lysol tracking to US is $14? or this price is for outside US?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 08 May 2013, 17:57:02
Lysol tracking to US is $14? or this price is for outside US?

It says international on the form.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: badcop on Wed, 08 May 2013, 18:00:50
two questions.

these are thick pbt correct?

will these have the white non stepped caps like imsto's sets or will it be grey.

looks great ivan.  thanks again for an awesome group buy opportunity!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 08 May 2013, 18:12:34
I see.. so shipping kinda makes this.. *gulp* :x
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 18:20:21
Tracking is included on US mail now without additional fee. Extra fee only applies for international if want some tracking as extra services are involved for it to actually be of any use once it exits USA.

Yes, thick Cherry profile PBT keycaps.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 08 May 2013, 18:27:48
I'm still working on all the single keys and have not posted them yet.

Colemak have all the extended legend from Alt Gr layer (http://colemak.com/wiki/index.php?title=Multilingual) too, see the keymap in earlier post.

I guess I just don't understand why... is that a feature a lot of Colemak users want?

Suppose I'll just go for blanks then...

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 08 May 2013, 18:33:38
What colors will the novelty caps be available in?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 18:45:59
Same color keycap the sets are in, so like you know, they match and stuff.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 08 May 2013, 18:52:24
Extra fee only applies for international if want some tracking as extra services are involved for it to actually be of any use once it exits USA.


Thank you Lysol.  Couldn't resist the sets you are offering, so got stupid greedy on some  :p .
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 08 May 2013, 18:57:07
I'm sure you've posted this before, but I cannot remember where. how much does the expensive new mold cost then for the 1.75x right shift?

don't know what to-do with these sets though, as without 1.75x right shift they aren't the best for me and then at the same time there are some awesome options you are offering here
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Acanthophis on Wed, 08 May 2013, 19:13:14
I know you didn't list it, but could Novelty keycaps 1x1 B also be done?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 08 May 2013, 19:15:22
ok i think i am going to get 3x each novelty key

and then based on pics of the full sets, maybe either a miami or irish set :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Sai on Wed, 08 May 2013, 19:36:29
can't decide to what to choose since all are awesome.  ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 08 May 2013, 19:38:48
Same color keycap the sets are in, so like you know, they match and stuff.

lol yes I realize... I was hoping we could also get some  B 1.25 in white to match other sets I own  :p

can't decide to what to choose since all are awesome.  ;D

lol This^ It's going to be impossible to not get Miami :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 08 May 2013, 19:43:30
I'm sure you've posted this before, but I cannot remember where. how much does the expensive new mold cost then for the 1.75x right shift?

don't know what to-do with these sets though, as without 1.75x right shift they aren't the best for me and then at the same time there are some awesome options you are offering here

1.75 shift for Flynn! I suppose the best way to get it done...auction!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Sai on Wed, 08 May 2013, 20:38:37

can't decide to what to choose since all are awesome.  ;D

lol This^ It's going to be impossible to not get Miami :)

i just can't decide what to get from these three sets. ( irish & ural & miami ).  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 08 May 2013, 20:44:07
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lizo6j3Bi11qzya8e.gif)

I'm so excited for the novelty keys!  If this becomes a trend I will be a broke but happy camper.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 20:44:41
order submited
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 08 May 2013, 20:55:21
If this becomes a trend I will be a broke but happy camper.

Isn't that the Motto here?  Broke but loving it .....  8) ?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:01:34
waiting for order form to update for novelty keys  :cool:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 09 May 2013, 00:57:01
International tracking + 14$.. hmmmmm.. still thinking if I should pull the trigger.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: templai on Thu, 09 May 2013, 01:30:52
waiting for order form to update for novelty keys
Same here, plus PS mockups!

International tracking + 14$.. hmmmmm.. still thinking if I should pull the trigger.
Indeed, international tracking is quite expensive unfortunately. I wouldn't order without it though.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/snappycomeback-bucket-pro/original/282/Let_me_love_you!!.gif?1341976178)
"Novelty/Single Keys: Available as E 1x1 or B 1.25"

Many thanks Lysol for running this GB.  :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 09 May 2013, 01:50:17
That starcraft set looks awfully tempting  :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: phetto on Thu, 09 May 2013, 01:53:57
Mr doublepost. Yea it looks baller. Pretty tempted by the scandinavian set!!!! You should grab one Moosecraft
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 09 May 2013, 01:57:16
Mmh...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 09 May 2013, 02:00:18
Mr doublepost. Yea it looks baller. Pretty tempted by the scandinavian set!!!! You should grab one Moosecraft
These goddamn smartphones eh?
So many options in this gb not sure what I want.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 09 May 2013, 02:27:36
please unbranded SUPER key :P
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: kekstee on Thu, 09 May 2013, 04:46:17
Would an extra D1.5 grey key (like tab, for HHKB style delete) even be possible or is it just not considered for this gb?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 09 May 2013, 05:09:48
Could you do nordic legends in ansi layout?
Also I have a bit of a hard time visualizing the current nordic set so if you could do a rendering  it would be great :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: BimboBB on Thu, 09 May 2013, 05:23:07
Also I have a bit of a hard time visualizing the current nordic set so if you could do a rendering  it would be great :)

+1

Have actually no idea what is included in all these pbt goodness sets. So i am waiting bravely for the full mockups before getting too excited.  :)


edit: dammit...no ISO-Enter!  :mad: thats kind of a dealbreaker for me. Ivan, do you know where Ducky is producing their thick PBT's? They have ISO-enter molds.

And is it possible to add a kit with only bottom row 1.25 modifiers/spacebar & capslock key (black on beige)?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: c137 on Thu, 09 May 2013, 07:46:42
Well, the missing Enter for ISO is very unfortunate...

I know you didn't list it, but could Novelty keycaps 1x1 B also be done?
That would be awesome indeed!

waiting for order form to update for novelty keys  :cool:
+1
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: JPG on Thu, 09 May 2013, 08:04:14
That starcraft set ...  :eek: :eek: :eek:

Only thing that is bugging me is the windows key! Why not do like the diablo set and put a starcraft design?

Still a MUCH TOO TEMPTING set. I must watch my wallet!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 May 2013, 08:20:13
Sadly the only place that seem to have Cherry profile PBT ISO enter is Cherry ZF, and they will not sell only keycaps, and especially not only specific keycap. They only refer to GMK who does not make PBT, and BSP who does not have ISO.

New PBT molds are $12,000 each ($7,000 figure I had before was for POM molds apparently) at the factory though 7x space may even be more possibly. BSP is also missing the same amount of keys, no ISO enter, no 1.75 shift, no 1.25 or spacebars. It seems like a cruel joke or something.

Other row or sizes novelty/specialty key will probably not happen this time, if there is enough demand may be able to convince for next time. I have asked many time about making only set of modifiers keys, but have not been able to convince.

ISO layout on ANSI are a cinch, just move one key, and either drop a key or move it as secondary legend to assign to an Alt Gr or something.

Still working on a few concepts, will try and get stuff up and order form done later in the day.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: oneproduct on Thu, 09 May 2013, 08:39:27
I'm still working on all the single keys and have not posted them yet.

Colemak have all the extended legend from Alt Gr layer (http://colemak.com/wiki/index.php?title=Multilingual) too, see the keymap in earlier post.

I guess I just don't understand why... is that a feature a lot of Colemak users want?

Suppose I'll just go for blanks then...



I know that I certainly wouldn't want a Colemak set with those legends. The Colemak user base is pretty small as is, adding international keys to it would only make it smaller.

And not to be rude (I even speak French and use international symbols sometimes!), but it even says in that link "Colemak is designed for English, so for other languages Colemak isn't optimal." So people needing those international keys are not even likely to be using Colemak as it isn't suitable for the language they'd be using them in.

Even so, I doubt that there'd be the 20 orders needed to actually get them made.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 May 2013, 09:07:17
Fair enough if most of you Colemak guys don't want it I can just make it single legend. I just thought the International legends make it look more interesting.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 09 May 2013, 10:46:46
Loving the novelty keys--they'd be great for my macro keys.

How are those full legend mock-ups coming along? :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 May 2013, 11:12:57
Options for full sets updated.
It will probably take me some time to get all of the mock ups finished. Some layouts require new legends to be traced/created which I will need to complete before a mock up can be done.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Thu, 09 May 2013, 15:15:54
I don't see an option for the standard shaped Windows logo as Imsto has on his sets, I guess I'm going to settle for the one you offer Lysol, which is Windows 8 logo.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: templai on Thu, 09 May 2013, 15:31:22
I don't see an option for the standard shaped Windows logo as Imsto has on his sets, I guess I'm going to settle for the one you offer Lysol, which is Windows 8 logo.

Will you be offering B row 1.25 as blanks? I kinda prefer that over the Windows 8 logo which is terrible. IMSTO's standard Windows logo would be ideal since retro logo will probably mess up the color scheme of some sets, and there ain't any good alternatives to go with the Miami set for example as far as I can see.

Just a thought.  :rolleyes:

Edit: Separate standard Win logo as novelty B 1.25 for specific sets such as the Miami set, or is that too much work?  :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Thu, 09 May 2013, 15:38:38
I don't see an option for the standard shaped Windows logo as Imsto has on his sets, I guess I'm going to settle for the one you offer Lysol, which is Windows 8 logo.

Will you be offering B row 1.25 as blanks? I kinda prefer that over the Windows 8 logo which is terrible. IMSTO's standard Windows logo would be ideal since retro logo will probably mess up the color scheme of some sets, and there ain't any good alternatives to go with the Miami set for example as far as I can see.

Just a thought.  :rolleyes:

I honestly don't know why Lysol is so in love with the Win8 logo.... How many people actually prefer Win8 logo over standard Win logo (Imsto)? Lysol why are you pushing the Win8 logo dude?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Hazel on Thu, 09 May 2013, 15:53:23
Fair enough if most of you Colemak guys don't want it I can just make it single legend. I just thought the International legends make it look more interesting.

If Colemak is single-legend, I'd be in for 2-4 Colemak sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jabar on Thu, 09 May 2013, 19:28:24
novelty Cherry keys need a window...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 09 May 2013, 19:30:47
novelty Cherry keys need a window...

there would be an option for both...
but realistically there should be one option 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: HOYEOLKIM on Fri, 10 May 2013, 04:35:38
I orderd Red iso.
i have a question. how to order 1x keycaps?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 11 May 2013, 01:20:59
Will order once mockups are ready!  This looks really good.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 11 May 2013, 01:39:42
you, my friend, are my wallet's big enemy.

green dyesubs for 75?

starcraft set?

I am going to stay far, far away from this thread before I wind up digging myself more deeply into this hole I'm already inside.

(if only there was some way to 'ignore' a thread so that it becomes invisible!)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 11 May 2013, 01:49:00
Two questions:

* The Starcraft / Diablo sets in their entirety are $75, correct?

* Are there any photos of already existing keys in that blue or gray color that I could refer to?  Doesn't have to be the exact lettering--only interested in the plastic.  Having difficulties imagining how light or dark these will end up.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: remedyhalopc on Sat, 11 May 2013, 02:07:21
R4 keys are the same profile as the SP zxc row right?

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 11 May 2013, 03:53:10
How are these cheaper than round one?  Any chance round one caps be available at these prices?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 11 May 2013, 10:35:44
Aww, I'm so torn wirth this. I would have to go with blanks to make it fit my planned GH60 Layout. On the other hand dyesub keys are awesome…
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Sat, 11 May 2013, 10:44:40
I think I might get a blank set!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tricheboars on Sat, 11 May 2013, 11:53:39
(http://replygif.net/i/96.gif)

I have been wanting a classic 2 tone beige or white beige for a few months. And 95 on Sherryton's site is bullsnap.

I will need mock ups before I throw money. I can't seem to visualize what Miami will look like.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jabar on Sat, 11 May 2013, 12:09:23
I need mockups.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 11 May 2013, 13:04:50
Found photos of another (but cancelled) group buy for blue Starcraft-themed PBT caps here:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36294.0

(scrolling down the first post)

Are they more or less correct representations of what we should expect from the blue PBT plastic for this group buy?  The top one a beautiful shade of blue.  Bottom may be the same but with different lighting (oddly greenish spacebar!)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: noxwood on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:28:13
These will be made by imsto, yes?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: templai on Sun, 12 May 2013, 06:45:50
These will be made by imsto, yes?
Please refer to the following thread: http://65.111.241.205/index.php?topic=40637.0  ;)

So, kinda.. just not directly made by him. Others might be able to answer you best, but as far as I know KBC is the actual brand.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 12 May 2013, 07:00:28
These will be made by imsto, yes?
Please refer to the following thread: http://65.111.241.205/index.php?topic=40637.0  ;)

So, kinda.. just not directly made by him. Others might be able to answer you best, but as far as I know KBC is the actual brand.

The link has the potential to be a little misleading as both sets (different legends) being discussed throughout the thread are sold by Imsto. The only thing relevant to the original question would be Ivan's & Feng's first posts. Oh and your statements are correct, but I believe Imsto is actually connected to or a part of KBC.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 12 May 2013, 07:05:43
Awesome!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 12 May 2013, 22:45:01
Any chance of there being a Hangul set like last time? :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 12 May 2013, 23:34:36
waiting for order form to update for novelty keys  :cool:
Same here.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: thurst0n on Sun, 12 May 2013, 23:54:34
Two questions:

* The Starcraft / Diablo sets in their entirety are $75, correct?

* Are there any photos of already existing keys in that blue or gray color that I could refer to?  Doesn't have to be the exact lettering--only interested in the plastic.  Having difficulties imagining how light or dark these will end up.
I'd like confirmation on the novelty set price please. I don't see why it'd be different but just want to be sure.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 12 May 2013, 23:56:41
Show Image
(http://replygif.net/i/96.gif)


I have been wanting a classic 2 tone beige or white beige for a few months. And 95 on Sherryton's site is bullsnap.

I will need mock ups before I throw money. I can't seem to visualize what Miami will look like.

i wanna see a mock up for that set as well..

sherry's 95 seems bad, but you are getting that thick DS set + 1.5 mods + numpad ... so it's not all that bad
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 13 May 2013, 02:22:51
sherry's 95 seems bad, but you are getting that thick DS set + 1.5 mods + numpad ... so it's not all that bad

Yep this baby is currently working in one of my G80-3000 boards.  Superb feeling to the keys like the original set when first produced all those years ago.

Personally the BEST $95.00 spent on a key set that looks and feels so good  ;) .

Although I am still in with Lysol's Group Buy here, simply because of the wealth of coloured fonts available within the PBT material, which is very nice.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 13 May 2013, 04:49:07
Wow a pbt dyesub set at that price is such a great deal  :cool: :cool:, I want to see some mockups  ;D ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 13 May 2013, 08:26:27
Yes all printed set is same price.
Been really busy with stuff, will try and get some of the mock up finish soon.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 13 May 2013, 10:06:56
Order sent.  Ivan you are a group-buy-oholic!  Take a break man... wait... no... NEED MOAR GROUP BUYS!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 13 May 2013, 10:59:01
Yep this baby is currently working in one of my G80-3000 boards.  Superb feeling to the keys like the original set when first produced all those years ago.

Personally the BEST $95.00 spent on a key set that looks and feels so good  ;) .

Although I am still in with Lysol's Group Buy here, simply because of the wealth of coloured fonts available within the PBT material, which is very nice.

Wow, do you have any pictures up? i'd love to see how the set looks besides the single picture on the page for them :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:11:16
sherry's 95 seems bad, but you are getting that thick DS set + 1.5 mods + numpad ... so it's not all that bad

Yep this baby is currently working in one of my G80-3000 boards.  Superb feeling to the keys like the original set when first produced all those years ago.

Personally the BEST $95.00 spent on a key set that looks and feels so good  ;) .

Although I am still in with Lysol's Group Buy here, simply because of the wealth of coloured fonts available within the PBT material, which is very nice.

I'm still in for the buy also, but I did just order the DS classics as well.  Your post, along with the picture on the site, convinced me to do so.  Stupid keyboard hobby.  Oh, well.  So far it is less expensive then building new computers all the time... though, I'm building new computer next month.  My wife is going to kill me :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dianoda on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:22:43
Some very unofficial mock-ups for the US ANSI sets (I don't have the int'l/cyrillic/etc. legends, so I can't really do mock-ups for those sets) - the shades of red and beige used in my mock-ups are based on my best guess, and I think Ivan is planning to use the Win8 logo instead of classic windows.  Also, positioning of the legends themselves may be off a bit, and I'm not sure if the "~`" and "\|" keycaps will be beige or white - other than those caveats, these *should* be pretty close:

black on white/beige:
http://i4.minus.com/iblyFstTXQFfQ1.jpg (http://i4.minus.com/iblyFstTXQFfQ1.jpg)

red on white/beige:
http://i3.minus.com/iZxlHOuegnIXV.jpg (http://i3.minus.com/iZxlHOuegnIXV.jpg)

hollow black on white/beige:
http://i1.minus.com/ibeuLoTg6GLWwS.jpg (http://i1.minus.com/ibeuLoTg6GLWwS.jpg)

Putting together the base templates for these mock-ups is a ton of work, btw - positioning each legend just right is a PITA.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: zoolzoo on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:34:22
Am I blind...or, are the novelty keys not listed on the order form? I just want some of the novelties.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: UniClown on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:44:00
Some very unofficial mock-ups for the US ANSI sets (I don't have the int'l/cyrillic/etc. legends, so I can't really do mock-ups for those sets) - the shades of red and beige used in my mock-ups are based on my best guess, and I think Ivan is planning to use the Win8 logo instead of classic windows.  Also, positioning of the legends themselves may be off a bit, and I'm not sure if the "~`" and "\|" keycaps will be beige or white - other than those caveats, these *should* be pretty close:

black on white/beige:
http://i4.minus.com/iblyFstTXQFfQ1.jpg (http://i4.minus.com/iblyFstTXQFfQ1.jpg)

red on white/beige:
http://i3.minus.com/iZxlHOuegnIXV.jpg (http://i3.minus.com/iZxlHOuegnIXV.jpg)

hollow black on white/beige:
http://i1.minus.com/ibeuLoTg6GLWwS.jpg (http://i1.minus.com/ibeuLoTg6GLWwS.jpg)

Putting together the base templates for these mock-ups is a ton of work, btw - positioning each legend just right is a PITA.

Hollow text is very interesting, I thought I was dead set on black.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:45:57
I like the hollow text for the larger letters, like letters and number pad. But when the text of the legend gets smaller, such as on the mods, it doesn't look as good, IMO. Maybe hollow on those and black on mods?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 14 May 2013, 04:38:33
Hollow text is very interesting, I thought I was dead set on black.

Yep Hollow is IN.  You can't walk on by without buying them.

Although I love green, grey, red and so much more that's available here.  We owe it all to our Group Buy Friend, IvanIvanovich  8) .
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: vax on Tue, 14 May 2013, 06:51:58
Interested. Anyone knows where to find a Cherry style PBT ISO-Enter that could fit this set? Doesn't need ot be Dyesubbed, can be blank. Else I would just take a ABS one from the other sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 14 May 2013, 07:32:09
Interested. Anyone knows where to find a Cherry style PBT ISO-Enter that could fit this set? Doesn't need ot be Dyesubbed, can be blank. Else I would just take a ABS one from the other sets.
You can always get an old cherry board with lasered pbt and take the enter key from it.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: numerus on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:30:16
hm no DS ...
but will watch it. maybe maybe
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: zoolzoo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:46:52
Am I blind...or, are the novelty keys not listed on the order form? I just want some of the novelties.

hate to quote myself but uh...plz
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:51:32
Am I blind...or, are the novelty keys not listed on the order form? I just want some of the novelties.

hate to quote myself but uh...plz

I will make a separate form for the novelty/single keys once I finish with it. The options you see are what there is. Will consider doing repeats from first round next time.

maybe this?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: zoolzoo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:14:49
Am I blind...or, are the novelty keys not listed on the order form? I just want some of the novelties.

hate to quote myself but uh...plz

I will make a separate form for the novelty/single keys once I finish with it. The options you see are what there is. Will consider doing repeats from first round next time.

maybe this?

thanks
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Cafiend on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:49:01
The old school windows logo is pretty nice
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: zoolzoo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 19:16:34
The old school windows logo is pretty nice

Yah, I really want a couple of those.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:05:16
The old school windows logo is pretty nice

Yah, I really want a couple of those.

Yep, the Windows 95 logo was it, back a decade or so ago.

Definitely want a few of them now  ;) .
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:15:33
Dear Ivan,

I just put in another order, please add it to my previous one.

I was looking in the order form for the "Specialty Keys" aka......Coloured Cherry's and Windows 95 but alas no mention.

PLEASE provide the order form for it soon, very interested in buying some to add to the key-set orders.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: SkyBlaze on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:25:01
Hello, I have quick question. Is the starcraft theme set, stuck in black on blue? or do we get to choose what colours we want ?( mods/ base aswell?)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:34:24
Hello, I have quick question. Is the starcraft theme set, stuck in black on blue? or do we get to choose what colours we want ?( mods/ base aswell?)

Do you mean this?

"Starcraft II themed set black on all blue keycaps - US - ANSI"

That's from the original post, under the Starcraft set image.  It's blue with black lettering only.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: SkyBlaze on Tue, 14 May 2013, 22:48:47
oh crap i missed that, my fault. 

I really like the legend, was just wondering if i get a another colour but doesn't matter I'll still buy one.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jaynoon on Wed, 15 May 2013, 02:35:33
In for a set of Miami. So awesome.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: templai on Wed, 15 May 2013, 02:56:04
In for a set of Miami. So awesome.

Love the colors too.  :-*
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Fred on Wed, 15 May 2013, 03:21:03
Oh mein gott. The classic windows flag! I'm ready for the novelty form.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:19:19
Same color keycap the sets are in, so like you know, they match and stuff.

Oh I've just noticed this post and realized I had a question about it.  Does it mean that the novelty keys (or at least some of the designs) will be available in blue and gray to match the SC / Diablo sets?  Or only white / beige?  I can see dye sublimation being a bit of an issue on darker backgrounds, bit it could end up looking interesting.

I'm definitely ordering at least one set (Starcraft, Diablo, or the White/Beige with red US font)--just waiting to see any sample photos.  Esp. of the blue and gray sets.  Kinda wish the Starcraft legend were available on gray too: such thick well-defined font!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Asininity on Thu, 16 May 2013, 02:40:34
When the form for the novelty singles goes up I'll be making a healthy sized order! By healthy I mean terrible for my wallet.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Paranoid on Thu, 16 May 2013, 05:02:01
If only there were more Belgians wanting full sets so we could have BE AZERTY. One can still dream ^^
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mbc on Thu, 16 May 2013, 16:10:12
Didn't you cross post this on DT?
Can you pls add a photo of cherry grey vs imsto grey caps, are colours identical?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 16 May 2013, 16:21:18
Didn't you cross post this on DT?
Can you pls add a photo of cherry grey vs imsto grey caps, are colours identical?

My guess is that the [dark] gray and blue of the Diablo / Starcraft sets are identical to the IMSTO gray and blue, since those are the colors that have been in use for thick PBT caps for a while, and even Ducky is picking them up for their upcoming keycaps.  Not sure what the beige is like exactly: how light or dark it will be.  If it's the standard beige, probably fairly light.

*Need some more unusual colors of PBT for dye-sub sets!  Like pale brownish-beige with darker brown modifiers, pale green, pale blue, etc.*
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 16 May 2013, 16:24:21
My guess is that the [dark] gray and blue of the Diablo / Starcraft sets are identical to the IMSTO gray and blue, since those are the colors that have been in use for thick PBT caps for a while, and even Ducky is picking them up for their upcoming keycaps.  Not sure what the beige is like exactly: how light or dark it will be.  If it's the standard beige, probably fairly light.

I think this is probably right, although I'd call Imsto gray medium, not dark.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Acanthophis on Thu, 16 May 2013, 16:31:19
He's asking for Cherry Corp. grey keycaps vs. imsto grey keycap, colour comparison.
Not between products within imsto's assortment.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mbc on Thu, 16 May 2013, 16:55:05
He's asking for Cherry Corp. grey keycaps vs. imsto grey keycap, colour comparison.
Not between products within imsto's assortment.
Yes, thanks :-)
I should have been more precise.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 17 May 2013, 06:25:12
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/FDB4D406B1B43044A7CF9551_zpsc849c59b.jpg~original)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 06:27:02
Show Image
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/FDB4D406B1B43044A7CF9551_zpsc849c59b.jpg~original)


OMG! Thanks for the photo... Now I'm even more confused about which set(s) to get lol
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IcyEyeG on Fri, 17 May 2013, 07:16:18
He's asking for Cherry Corp. grey keycaps vs. imsto grey keycap, colour comparison.
Not between products within imsto's assortment.

I'm also interested in knowing this, because I want to use 2 1.25 novelty keycaps to substitute the superkeys on my Cherry white/grey G80-3000. It would be great to know if the grey color will match.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 17 May 2013, 07:22:27
Show Image
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/FDB4D406B1B43044A7CF9551_zpsc849c59b.jpg~original)


Thank you!  Now if only we could see a full set or two or three :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 17 May 2013, 07:40:10
The single keys look really good!

I still can't decide which design looks best. I need to see the complete mockups of each set first :)

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 17 May 2013, 07:53:27
Sets should be like this colors
(http://img04.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i4/T1JTvhXm8kXXbwWS.1_042409.jpg)

Still working on finish many new legends before can make mock ups for some, but also have been really busy.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: BimboBB on Fri, 17 May 2013, 08:21:48
Temporarily you could use just a "normal" font for the full mock ups till you have finished all legends. So people have an idea how the full sets will look like.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dianoda on Fri, 17 May 2013, 10:19:01
Temporarily you could use just a "normal" font for the full mock ups till you have finished all legends. So people have an idea how the full sets will look like.

Still unofficial, but I re-did mockups for the red, black and hollow versions based on IvanIvan's pics:

(http://i5.minus.com/iZ5e4brKu1mEX.jpg)

(http://i4.minus.com/ibmZIPnkwqZLLD.jpg)

(http://i3.minus.com/iAtUgYFsEXyoP.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 17 May 2013, 11:13:24
Temporarily you could use just a "normal" font for the full mock ups till you have finished all legends. So people have an idea how the full sets will look like.

Still unofficial, but I re-did mockups for the red, black and hollow versions based on IvanIvan's pics:

Show Image
(http://i5.minus.com/iZ5e4brKu1mEX.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i4.minus.com/ibmZIPnkwqZLLD.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i3.minus.com/iAtUgYFsEXyoP.jpg)


Dianoda, you're awesome!  Could I ask you a favor to draw the keys on a light pink metallic background as well (for the red version).  And I have no idea how difficult the process is, but if you'd rather just give me a bare template, I could work with that too! 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 17 May 2013, 11:20:56
Shouldn't the Red on White set have German legends with ä,ü,ö etc?

I mean it says ISO DE layout in the OP :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 17 May 2013, 11:23:31
Shouldn't the Red on White set have German legends with ä,ü,ö etc?

I mean it says ISO DE layout in the OP :D

It's vertical "slash" ISO, so it CAN be that OR standard US.  Not mixed.  The mixed sets have dashes in the names.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: BimboBB on Fri, 17 May 2013, 11:59:20
Thanks Dianoda. But as mentioned....for the red set, ISO DE is missing and for the black set also a few:


Black Colemak ANSI
Black DE ISO
Black GB ISO
Black ES ISO
Black FR ISO
Black Nordic ISO

 ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Cafiend on Fri, 17 May 2013, 13:38:53
I will definitely want a set and some modifier keys.

But ...can't decide on legends!

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dianoda on Fri, 17 May 2013, 15:45:06
Dianoda, you're awesome!  Could I ask you a favor to draw the keys on a light pink metallic background as well (for the red version).  And I have no idea how difficult the process is, but if you'd rather just give me a bare template, I could work with that too!

Sent you a PM.

If anyone else wants a copy of my cherry legends template (you need photoshop or a program capable of editing .psd files, and some photoshop skills would be helpful, too), send me a PM.  Also, for open-ended colorway concept discussion, check out this thread (I'd prefer to not derail the GB thread): http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43528.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43528.0)

Thanks Dianoda. But as mentioned....for the red set, ISO DE is missing and for the black set also a few:


Black Colemak ANSI
Black DE ISO
Black GB ISO
Black ES ISO
Black FR ISO
Black Nordic ISO

 ;D

My template uses the US ANSI 104 key layout, and I only have the US cherry legends, otherwise I'd consider doing mock-ups for those other layouts, too.  Thing is, even if I had any missing legends for the other layouts, changing the legends/layout of the template is a lot more work than just using the template to make a colorway (as I have basically have to rebuild the template - all the colors filters need to be redone and precisely spacing out the legends is a pain).
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 17 May 2013, 15:47:41
It would be sick if the novelty keys would have an R4 option as well as a bottom row profiling option...that would be sick
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 17 May 2013, 17:49:08
It would be sick if the novelty keys would have an R4 option as well as a bottom row profiling option...that would be sick

Single E row (R1) 1x keys: $2.50
Single B row (R4) 1.25 keys: $4

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 17 May 2013, 17:52:59
It would be sick if the novelty keys would have an R4 option as well as a bottom row profiling option...that would be sick

Single E row (R1) 1x keys: $2.50
Single B row (R4) 1.25 keys: $4

Am I missing something?

/me did not fully read the OP
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 17 May 2013, 18:11:35
lysol, I know this GB doesn't offer 1.5x mods, but some of your designs are really nice, and I imagine some of us would like the opportunity while it's available. Would you please consider adding 1x B profile mods in both white and beige? Also, the top row ones should be offered in both white and beige as well, please. Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jabar on Fri, 17 May 2013, 18:14:12
lysol, still waiting on mock-ups

I hope we get enough of the Morocco/Arabic style sets... but I think they would look better if a full white instead of a two-tone set. The brown colors I imagine wouldn't have enough contrast on the modifiers.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 17 May 2013, 18:17:09
lysol, I know this GB doesn't offer 1.5x mods, but some of your designs are really nice, and I imagine some of us would like the opportunity while it's available. Would you please consider adding 1x B profile mods in both white and beige? Also, the top row ones should be offered in both white and beige as well, please. Thanks!

^^^that would be awesome Iysol!
1x B profile mods for the novelty caps as well!

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:11:38
MIAMI BABY
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: boost on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:40:33
Lysol, do you know how much it would cost to make the tool for 7x spacebar and 1.5 mods?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 18 May 2013, 10:53:17
PBT molds are around $12K. We need 4 new molds (1.5 B profile, 1.75 B profile, 7x space, ISO enter) so that is a lot of fundraising.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:54:12
$12k total or each?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:57:05
$12k total or each?

Sadly the only place that seem to have Cherry profile PBT ISO enter is Cherry ZF, and they will not sell only keycaps, and especially not only specific keycap. They only refer to GMK who does not make PBT, and BSP who does not have ISO.

New PBT molds are $12,000 each ($7,000 figure I had before was for POM molds apparently) at the factory though 7x space may even be more possibly. BSP is also missing the same amount of keys, no ISO enter, no 1.75 shift, no 1.25 or spacebars. It seems like a cruel joke or something.

Other row or sizes novelty/specialty key will probably not happen this time, if there is enough demand may be able to convince for next time. I have asked many time about making only set of modifiers keys, but have not been able to convince.

ISO layout on ANSI are a cinch, just move one key, and either drop a key or move it as secondary legend to assign to an Alt Gr or something.

Still working on a few concepts, will try and get stuff up and order form done later in the day.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: SkyBlaze on Sat, 18 May 2013, 22:08:05
I don't know which one to get starcraft themed or Red - US standard, both look good. I might get the red -us standard
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jonnybastard on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:07:54
Order placed for a few sets, yeeeeeeewww these will be great!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 04:15:22
So, the stepped caps lock isn't center stemmed. Is this correct?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 04:16:38
So, the stepped caps lock isn't center stemmed. Is this correct?

Correct :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 10:05:31
So, the stepped caps lock isn't center stemmed. Is this correct?

Correct :)

Oh, darn!

I was looking for it to be center stemmed.

I'm still going to buy this set though.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 19 May 2013, 10:06:11
You will still get a center stemmed caps lock. It'll just be full touch.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 10:30:41
I hope to see the rest of the mockups, only 2 so far
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 14:02:15
I ****ed up on the 2 new mock ups, the ` and \ would be white not beige... I fix it later.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 14:18:50
I ****ed up on the 2 new mock ups, the ` and \ would be white not beige... I fix it later.

The charcoal/orange mockup with Cyrillic looks amazing! Now I'm wishing the 1.25x with Cherry could stay the same color as the rest of the set or is that going to be an option? Miami Cherries would look fantastic imo.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IPT on Sun, 19 May 2013, 15:58:33
for the Starcraft set, you think we can rotate the shift starcraft II logo 180 degrees to make it rightside up?
right now its upside down
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 19 May 2013, 16:05:28
for the Starcraft set, you think we can rotate the shift starcraft II logo 180 degrees to make it rightside up?
right now its upside down

Yeah, the mods look kinda odd. I'd prefer the Starcraft set with normal mod legends and the unique Starcraft font for the alphas, etc.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 16:41:49
Ural and Irish set looks so good....
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:00:11
Oh man, the recently added mockups look soooo good!

Hope all of the other options will be added soon, so I can place my order :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:03:51
imsto made the SC2 and D3 sets. I don't really have much to do with those other than offering them for lower price in the groupbuy. I think those are already made up so there probably won't be changes made.

I wish I would have thought of dyesubs Miami version earlier... it looks a ****load better on white... I will have to bug imsto and see if there is some all white sets left to have some made up on.
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/Miami_zps97c66935.png~original)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:22:36
imsto made the SC2 and D3 sets. I don't really have much to do with those other than offering them for lower price in the groupbuy. I think those are already made up so there probably won't be changes made.

I wish I would have thought of dyesubs Miami version earlier... it looks a ****load better on white... I will have to bug imsto and see if there is some all white sets left to have some made up on.
Show Image
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/Miami_zps97c66935.png~original)


OH

MY

GOD

!!!


DAT MIAMI   :eek:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:30:01
Thanks for those mock-ups, they look great!!!  I like the look of the Russian gray/orange set.  I'm pretty set on getting the US Red legend now for my upcoming pink Filco.

But again, I hope you can get some photos of the Starcraft and Diablo set! The lettering is so different from anything else, it'd be really good to see how the keys look "in real life".
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:37:33
I asked imsto if they have any photos of those sets yet. I am sure they will provide if they do.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:37:35
I wish I would have thought of dyesubs Miami version earlier... it looks a ****load better on white... I will have to bug imsto and see if there is some all white sets left to have some made up on.
Show Image
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/Miami_zps97c66935.png~original)


Holy ****! I hope he says yes :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:39:45
Hehehe. I forgot I already had the answer to that question. There is about 50 set of all white, so can make a limited edition. :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:45:42
Hehehe. I forgot I already had the answer to that question. There is about 50 set of all white, so can make a limited edition. :D

No way! Do we order the current Miami that's up or wait for a new entry? :D

Edit - Shouldn't the Miami keys read Майамі instead of Маймі? I may be wrong about this :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:53:21
Hehehe. I forgot I already had the answer to that question. There is about 50 set of all white, so can make a limited edition. :D

What if the demand for MIAMI is 50plus?

Who gets a set? Will you go by date of order?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:00:13
Yea, I made error on the Майамі legend LOL. I will fix it later...
50 set only for all white colorway, limited edition. 2tone set, no problem. But yea it would be first come first serve, then if they don't pay it go to the next. The ordersheet is a big mess, I will probably take it down and make a new one later on so it can have the single keys too. Orders may or may not have to be re-enter, but I will try to copy them in correctly.

I think I might drop off the Morocco set. Doing the legend setting for the Arabic stuff is busting my balls.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:07:08
Thanks for the quick replies Ivan! Order submitted and I'd like my Miami set in all white :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:07:51
In this case I will place my order now. I wanted to wait until I saw all the mockups, but I need that Miami set on all white caps :)

You can still replace the Morocco Set with a Chocolate ISO DE set - that will be much easier to do ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:08:31
Sorry noob here, but what is a "miami set on white caps"?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:09:41
Sorry noob here, but what is a "miami set on white caps"?

This :)

(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/Miami_zps97c66935.png~original)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:10:20
So it's light green on white?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:11:22
So it's light green on white?

aquamarine and bright pink on white :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:13:08
Thank you!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:19:20
Lysol I see on the mockup with the US-RU charcoal and orange the window keys are in cherry orange color, is this the way the set will look like? also I see the mix of orange / charcoal you made trough all 104 keys.

Props I really like the way it looks, really unique!!! hopefully this is the way it will look, but I though that we had to pay separate for the cherry logo modifiers 1.25?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:26:04
Order submitted for

1x Miami (on all white caps!)
1x Blank

I might add other sets, if I save up enough money until the GB ends :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:33:41
If the legends are in the mock up, that is what it will have. Other Cherry singles are for matching your keyboards switch type and so on.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: eyesmiles on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:38:43
How do I get on this list for miami on all white? :)

I've been holding off on ordering an US/RU set, but after seeing the mock up I know I have to order it.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Kayliss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:40:42
Order submitted.

1x Miami all white please  :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:41:07
For now just type white along with the quantity in that field for Miami, so for example 2 white.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 19 May 2013, 19:38:41
Am I correct to understand that I can have ES lettering in ANSI layout?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 19:39:59
If the legends are in the mock up, that is what it will have. Other Cherry singles are for matching your keyboards switch type and so on.

Awesome men, you did excellent job on choosing how to mix up the orange and charcoal troughout the whole 104 keys, great job!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 19:42:53
I would prefer to keep those marked as ANSI on ANSI, and ISO on ISO physical layout to keep from having 2x more options. Though if more people want typically ISO on ANSI physical instead we can do it that way.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 19 May 2013, 19:58:00
There's so much going on here. I want a lot more than I'll be able to get...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: fl0w3n on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:12:51
Am I missing where we order the single novelty keys on the order form?

I'm also having a hard time deciding, I know I want the Red ANSI, but not sure if I also want Hollow and/or Black
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:27:55
Is there a US only layout for the Miami set?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:31:46
There is even going to be more going on in here soon... there will be a few more new items coming.

I will get the order form fixed up tomorrow maybe to include everything.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:35:10
nice, depends what else gets trown in the mix I might get another set. My first jump was on the charcoal/orange and so far its been good descission, looks the best .
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:38:39
There is even going to be more going on in here soon... there will be a few more new items coming.

I will get the order form fixed up tomorrow maybe to include everything.

I can't tell you how exciting this thread is!  I'm looking forward to getting at least one set of thick cherry-profile PBT, and yours have so many awesome options!
Спасибо за работу!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:41:11
lol spasib
There is even going to be more going on in here soon... there will be a few more new items coming.

I will get the order form fixed up tomorrow maybe to include everything.

I can't tell you how exciting this thread is!  I'm looking forward to getting at least one set of thick cherry-profile PBT, and yours have so many awesome options!
Спасибо за работу!
lol spasibo za rabotu..... someone can trow in some ruskie :)

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:42:36
It's only fitting for the seller and for having a russian layout (that is among the sets at the top of my list!)  But I can only type russian easily with layouts that mimic english sounding letters.  Used to know the proper russian layout better, but that was too long ago.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 19 May 2013, 21:44:40
I would prefer to keep those marked as ANSI on ANSI, and ISO on ISO physical layout to keep from having 2x more options. Though if more people want typically ISO on ANSI physical instead we can do it that way.

I don't understand that.

If they can't make ISO keys it's just impossible for me to have ES-ISO because it lacks enter, LShift, and some keys on the set. This is what I don't understand why you're calling it "Any layout"-ISO if people are not going to get ISO and instead would be getting ANSI physical layout with different language layouts.

Could you explain that?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 May 2013, 22:35:05
ISO options will have the 1.25 left shift, and extra 2 letter keys. Only ISO enter is missing from the set it is otherwise complete and correct.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dianoda on Sun, 19 May 2013, 23:10:54
Are the red and black sets getting the expanded number pad legends (arrows, etc.)?  How about the windows key - are they definitely getting the windows 8 logo?

(http://i2.minus.com/iRQSY2dZQBmKP.jpg)

(http://i5.minus.com/i8DZcWMbUeFoU.jpg)

Awesome job on the two tone sets, btw.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 23:58:27
There is even going to be more going on in here soon... there will be a few more new items coming.

I will get the order form fixed up tomorrow maybe to include everything.

I can't wait to hear more about this. I added white Miami under my address before you posted about how you wanted us to do it :)

PS - Not complaining, but the white looks off on the alphas for the Black, Red, and Ural sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 20 May 2013, 02:07:33
Hmmmm~ I think I may join this groupbuy too :P Not sure just yet but so tempted!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 20 May 2013, 02:20:16
I would prefer to keep those marked as ANSI on ANSI, and ISO on ISO physical layout to keep from having 2x more options. Though if more people want typically ISO on ANSI physical instead we can do it that way.

I'd actually prefer getting the ISO alphas with ANSI Mods because nobody will have a matching ISO-Enter key. A random Enter key will probably have a different kind of grey and not the same color for the legend. This would look stupid IMO and destroy the beauty of the set.

Maybe we can do a poll on that?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: iAmAhab on Mon, 20 May 2013, 03:44:32
Which countries are the nordic iso layout for? Quite unusual markings on the keys.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Mon, 20 May 2013, 04:38:04
Which countries are the nordic iso layout for? Quite unusual markings on the keys.

Im going to go with a hunch and say, nordic countries

Also, on topic

I would prefer to keep those marked as ANSI on ANSI, and ISO on ISO physical layout to keep from having 2x more options. Though if more people want typically ISO on ANSI physical instead we can do it that way.

I'd actually prefer getting the ISO alphas with ANSI Mods because nobody will have a matching ISO-Enter key. A random Enter key will probably have a different kind of grey and not the same color for the legend. This would look stupid IMO and destroy the beauty of the set.

Maybe we can do a poll on that?

Does it really matter which set you have if you won't be able to use it anyway, I'm here contemplating whether to pay 75 quid for a set that I'll use only half of (alphas) Wish you could just get alphas, mods and such separately :/
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: iAmAhab on Mon, 20 May 2013, 04:57:15
Very clever mauri......

Nordic countries is a quite relative term, so I was wondering which countries in particular.
The legends are all over the place, and a lot of them are quite redundant if it's for
example made for Scandinavian countries.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Mon, 20 May 2013, 05:04:06
Very clever mauri......

Nordic countries is a quite relative term, so I was wondering which countries in particular.
The legends are all over the place, and a lot of them are quite redundant if it's for
example made for Scandinavian countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries

These countries in particular, how is the term quite relative? This set is a compromise between the countries, very similar yet not the same for everyone, that's why pretty much every cap has 2 to 3 symbols on it.

Though, the so called "nordic" layout in the mock ups also have spanish (?) bits for some odd reason
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: realex on Mon, 20 May 2013, 05:16:11
will there be an option for an entirely white blank set or will these also be white/grey exclusively?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 20 May 2013, 05:17:26
will there be an option for an entirely white blank set or will these also be white/grey exclusively?

The pure white sets are reserved for Miami ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 05:28:24
will there be an option for an entirely white blank set or will these also be white/grey exclusively?

The pure white sets are reserved for Miami ;)

So, the rest of the sets are a beige/white color, correct?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 20 May 2013, 05:30:36
So, the rest of the sets are a beige/white color, correct?

Yes :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 05:49:44
So, the rest of the sets are a beige/white color, correct?

Yes :)

Cool!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: paudash on Mon, 20 May 2013, 06:36:09
Two questions. 1. The Hollow style mockup doesn't show !@#$%^&*? etc. Are those upper/lower punctuations omitted on the final keycap set because of font size, or just not shown on the mockup?
2. Will the Irish green color be available in US standard or just the International?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 08:42:20
ИванИванович, я давно заказал набор Майами. Я бы предпочел, если бы он был во всем белом, пожалуйста.

спасибо большое!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 20 May 2013, 08:45:56
ИванИванович, я давно заказал набор Майами. Я бы предпочел, если бы он был во всем белом, пожалуйста.

спасибо большое!

Me too!! but now I'm starting to like the charcoal/orange set. I think it's the orange cherries :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:13:01
I wasn't pleased with how the hollow looked with smaller font size, so only the big fonts were done in that style, then the rest is all very minimal. It is kind of the opposite of the rest of the sets with a strict single legend per key.
I may add and remove options as the buy goes on if needed to meet our targets.

Mods color should be very very close to Cherry so it should not be too hard to find something suitable, though the legend will most likely be laser I don't feel it would be that terrible. If no one wants the ISO sets that is fine. I only wish I could get Cherry to sell some blank PBT ISO return keys without a G80 attached to it.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: pasph on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:31:21
I want the ISO set
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:39:44
Lysol are you effin kidding me??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  we have the RGB thick PBT dyesub?  oh men, oh men!!!!

can I propose something if possible, can we have the RGB + 3 yellow keys ( 2 x window, page) + red esc to make it as a whole package, I wouldn't mind paying extra for that. Just an idea brother :)

This GB will be the end to my wallet, Lysol knows how to do things the right way.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dianoda on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:45:53
Lysol are effin kidding me??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  we have the RGB thick PBT dyesub?  oh men, oh men!!!!

This GB just keeps getting better.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:47:22
Lysol are effin kidding me??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  we have the RGB thick PBT dyesub?  oh men, oh men!!!!

This GB just keeps getting better.

its like he is reading my mind...., get out of my head!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:50:46
I was hoping for CMYK Thick PBT Dyesubs ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:54:12
its ok we have those coming in thick abs ds ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:56:52
CMYK would be pretty slick, but the factory moq for custom color key is like 4x that we did in the GMK buy. Perhaps some later time I will see if BSP can do them and maybe have oldschool style with A profile.

imsto already have the keys order for RGB, and it is with only the 6 keys. Maybe another time we can add the extra ones.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 10:01:37
sounds good Lysol, but damn men you and Imsto know how to fulfill others wishes, respect.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Soulpyre on Mon, 20 May 2013, 10:21:40
I kinda wish there will a blue on two-tone option next time around. Was mainly why I didn't go for the round one version since all the keys were white, no two-tone. I dunno I may just get the black.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 10:25:34
New order sheet with all options is now up. Please resubmit your order. Sorry for trouble.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:00:42
Order resubmitted. Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IcyEyeG on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:12:17
Finally ordered my Cherry Red 1.25 novelty keycaps. Can't wait to get rid of my Windows keycaps on my Cherry G80! ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:53:43
I resubmitted my order.

Can't wait for dat all white MIAMI set :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 12:17:58
Lysol I have no problem resubmitting, but if your going to be adding more things later on, maeby I should wait and not resubmit yet? or your done with adding more stuff?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 20 May 2013, 12:28:16
Lysol I have no problem resubmitting, but if your going to be adding more things later on, maeby I should wait and not resubmit yet? or your done with adding more stuff?

If you are interested in the all white Miami set I would order right now, because it is limited!

Once you have placed an order you'll get a link to your form, so you can add stuff later :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: whiteduck on Mon, 20 May 2013, 12:32:30
Lysol, is the morocco set gone?  I was pumped about that set.  If it is dropped can you use your wisdom to point me towards some vintage boards which would have that script?

thx <3

-wd

edit-
-order submitted!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 12:50:09
Lysol I have no problem resubmitting, but if your going to be adding more things later on, maeby I should wait and not resubmit yet? or your done with adding more stuff?

If you are interested in the all white Miami set I would order right now, because it is limited!

Once you have placed an order you'll get a link to your form, so you can add stuff later :)

not really crazy for the all white set, if I ever went Miami I would go for the 2 tone. Originally ordered the gray/orange set but also want to add RGB to it, thing is if he adds more options on the full sets I will have to reorder again.

Its what people had to do when the GMK GB was going on, if you add or take out something you have to resubmit new order, I rather wait for his final response if he is going to be hanging more mockups or not, if not then I'll go and place my order, but I might wait a lil cause other sets look nice too, I doubt we will ever have another exotic GB like this, might be the last one for a long time to come :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 20 May 2013, 12:53:10
Ordered :D
Novelty Keys Galore!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 13:20:27
I will only add other full set choices if we need to make numbers like in the last dyesubs buy. I may or may not add some other smaller items depending on what imsto says about some things.

I dropped Morocco because I simply don't have the time to deal with the extremely complex Arabic legends right now. I have only seen Arabic Cherry once, a 3000SAA which went for like EUR240.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 20 May 2013, 13:22:07
Any chance of there being a Hangul set like last time? :)

???
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 13:27:55
Hardly was it bought last time, so I didn't offer it again.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 20 May 2013, 13:29:18
Hardly was it bought last time, so I didn't offer it again.

That's probably because it was already being sold in gray and blue. Thanks for the answer :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 13:30:22
Ok Lysol I will order again and if you add something down the road that I like, I will have to order again.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 13:32:36
Pro tip, when you make your order you should be given a link for changing it. Save that link so if you do want to change the order you don't have to re enter all your info, and it saves me time of cleaning up duplicate orders too :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 13:36:11
crap Lysol, ordered and closed the link :( sorry buddy
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: longweight on Mon, 20 May 2013, 15:26:45
Any chance of just getting the blank mods?


I will be submitting an order for a full set.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:18:45
How much are the novelty keys?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:23:50
Single E row (R1) 1x keys: $2.50
Single B row (R4) 1.25 keys: $4
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:26:25
For the modifier row (1.25), would special Cherry design keys be dyed on beige plastic?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:30:21
NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I just realized that my QF TK uses 1x modifiers!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:37:28
NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I just realized that my QF TK uses 1x modifiers!!

that's why people steer away from boards like your's, Razer and there were others too
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:38:31
Must...... get...... a.... newww......... booarrddd.........
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:49:29
NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I just realized that my QF TK uses 1x modifiers!!

that's why people steer away from boards like your's, Razer and there were others too

Can't you get novelty keys? ^^
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:54:39
he can but in this GB novelty keys size 1 are only for the top row, and the bottom row is 1.25. He needs bottom row in size 1.... I don't think that they have mold for that one.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:00:30
Any chance of there being a Hangul set like last time? :)

???
Hardly was it bought last time, so I didn't offer it again.

:( This definitely would've been the set I would've jumped on without hesitation. I can touch type Korean but it would've been helpful and awesome to look at.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:09:00
he can but in this GB novelty keys size 1 are only for the top row, and the bottom row is 1.25. He needs bottom row in size 1.... I don't think that they have mold for that one.

Oh right, I can't read. I've got the same problem, in the other hand I really want my specific layout but in the other I hate the colors available with it and have absolutely no use for the mods, numpad or f-keys :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: iAmAhab on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:15:00
Order submitted, gotta have some of that nordic iso for my gh60.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: whiteduck on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:17:55
he can but in this GB novelty keys size 1 are only for the top row, and the bottom row is 1.25. He needs bottom row in size 1.... I don't think that they have mold for that one.

Oh right, I can't read. I've got the same problem, in the other hand I really want my specific layout but in the other I hate the colors available with it and have absolutely no use for the mods, numpad or f-keys :D
Sounds like someone needs to make their own gh60 ^^
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:19:25
he can but in this GB novelty keys size 1 are only for the top row, and the bottom row is 1.25. He needs bottom row in size 1.... I don't think that they have mold for that one.

Oh right, I can't read. I've got the same problem, in the other hand I really want my specific layout but in the other I hate the colors available with it and have absolutely no use for the mods, numpad or f-keys :D
Sounds like someone needs to make their own gh60 ^^

Life here's tough (read;expensive) not being used to ansi : (
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:24:42
I almost got a backlit KBT Pure, but getting substitute caps would mean missing all the side-printed modifier designations.  Number one reason I ended up getting a TKL keyboard.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jabar on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:43:15
I dropped Morocco because I simply don't have the time to deal with the extremely complex Arabic legends right now. I have only seen Arabic Cherry once, a 3000SAA which went for like EUR240.
what

that was the coolest one

there are standardized arabic fonts that should be pretty easy to source

e: Irish would look very cool if all white
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 21 May 2013, 01:03:04
In addition to my question about the bottom row modifier novelty keys being printed on beige PBT, I have one more:  will the "~" and "\" keys possibly be beige?  It would look a lot more coherent and symmetrical if the will be.  Just like on the Ural mock up.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 21 May 2013, 01:26:03
In addition to my question about the bottom row modifier novelty keys being printed on beige PBT, I have one more:  will theverge"~" and "\" keys possibly be beige?  It would look a lot more coherent and symmetrical if the will be.  Just like on the Ural mock up.

Yeah, I just noticed this too.

Two other questions:

1. Why are the Win-Keys on some sets blank, while other sets have unique legends (like MIAMI) or the Cherry Symbol in the matching color? Is this final?

2. Would it be possible to buy extra spacebars? I'd be interested in 5 white ones :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 21 May 2013, 02:05:14
Oof finally settled and ordered! A red US set, 2 B-row Cherry keys + 1 "Esc" Cherry key--all red.  If I were rich, I'd also get the Starcraft set... Alas...

Praying the wait won't be terribly long!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 21 May 2013, 05:45:40
Just ordered a Miami All-white set. Here's to hoping it won't be long. :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: ShivaYash on Tue, 21 May 2013, 06:14:07
Such a shame there is no uk enter key.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 21 May 2013, 06:30:37
I know we've discussed that these are expensive, but why does it have to come out of our pocket? Can't that company be convinced to see that adding 7x/1.5x to their sets only increases their value to people? They should just make them on their own, or at least offer to split some of it...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 21 May 2013, 10:22:34
Ural mock up was a mistake, they don't come with beige ` or \ key they are white.
Some set may or may not get some unique winkey legend instead of a blank key. I was rushing to get some mock up posted so there are some with errors and some that need some legend still. I will make sure to get things done before invoice time so there is not a surprise for the buyer.

I have no idea why they won't just make the key sizes. I guess they don't believe those are in demand, considering pretty much everyone but iOne does not use 1.5 anymore. Missing ISO enter is perplexing though, as it is a standard for at least half the world I would think they would be eager to cater to that entire market as they are missing quite a large revenue possibility there.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mbc on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:14:09
Ural mock up was a mistake, they don't come with beige ` or \ key they are white.
Some set may or may not get some unique winkey legend instead of a blank key. I was rushing to get some mock up posted so there are some with errors and some that need some legend still. I will make sure to get things done before invoice time so there is not a surprise for the buyer.

I have no idea why they won't just make the key sizes. I guess they don't believe those are in demand, considering pretty much everyone but iOne does not use 1.5 anymore. Missing ISO enter is perplexing though, as it is a standard for at least half the world I would think they would be eager to cater to that entire market as they are missing quite a large revenue possibility there.
Instead of asking one customer to cover the mold costs they could simply charge more for the new ones until they paid for themselves. But i guess that would be too simple :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:47:23
I believe they make plenty to cover for the new enter mold, every investment brings more money in, this one will too.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: BimboBB on Wed, 22 May 2013, 03:46:48
No...you cannot expect a company to cover the costs for a tool which they can use at least for the next 30 years.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Wed, 22 May 2013, 04:17:08
No...you cannot expect a company to cover the costs for a tool which they can use at least for the next 30 years.  :rolleyes:

Is it realistic to expect we'll be using keyboards in 30 years :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 22 May 2013, 05:09:56
We were using mechanical keyboards 30 years ago ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 22 May 2013, 05:12:01
We were using mechanical keyboards 30 years ago ;)

My SSK isn't quite 30 years old, but it's still older than me!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Wed, 22 May 2013, 05:30:09
We were using mechanical keyboards 30 years ago ;)

Exactly, 60 years seems like a stretch for the same technology ^-^
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: asura on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:24:19
GAHHHHH!  The US/RU and Scandinavia - Nordic are just too gorgeous!

I'll be back... closer to the deadline...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 22 May 2013, 10:33:29
Sounds like there will be some limited quantity for single 1x1 B profile grey key.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dianoda on Wed, 22 May 2013, 10:42:50
Sounds like there will be some limited quantity for single 1x1 B profile grey key.

I need a few of those...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 22 May 2013, 12:12:04
Sounds like there will be some limited quantity for single 1x1 B profile grey key.

This is a bit confusing for me: are the two tone sets in white/beige or white/grey?  AKA closer to Sherry's black on beige modifiers or the IMSTO dark grey
?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 22 May 2013, 12:44:23
Sounds like there will be some limited quantity for single 1x1 B profile grey key.

This is a bit confusing for me: are the two tone sets in white/beige or white/grey?  AKA closer to Sherry's black on beige modifiers or the IMSTO dark grey
?

The sets will be bright white and light beige.  Not dark like IMSTO's gray.

There's a photo of the colors some pages back.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 22 May 2013, 12:44:27
Sounds like there will be some limited quantity for single 1x1 B profile grey key.

This is a bit confusing for me: are the two tone sets in white/beige or white/grey?  AKA closer to Sherry's black on beige modifiers or the IMSTO dark grey
?

There is no such thing as Imsto dark gray. It's medium gray at best :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 22 May 2013, 13:14:58
Yes white and beige like Cherry classic 2tone.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Cafiend on Wed, 22 May 2013, 13:36:02
I wanted to double check my order... But didn't copy my link. I don't want to resubmit a new one only to add more work for you.

What should I do?

Also, thanks for all of the hard work behind this buy.




Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: kekstee on Wed, 22 May 2013, 16:26:41
Missing ISO Enter is really frustrating, so close to awesome full ISO sets :/
Lack of a beige \ irks me as well, although probably not to the point that I can't spend money on blanks in the end.
Could that be a future single key option if there is some demand?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Acanthophis on Wed, 22 May 2013, 18:45:36
Sounds like there will be some limited quantity for single 1x1 B profile grey key.

What about white 1x1 B profile keys?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: naokira on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:29:38
hey man, how much do you it will cost to ship on Philippines?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:08:15
Depends your order, but lets say one set, around $13.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: naokira on Thu, 23 May 2013, 10:13:55
Depends your order, but lets say one set, around $13.

Okay man let me think about it :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: thurst0n on Thu, 23 May 2013, 22:32:26
mmm sexy, i think this is exactly what I was looking for.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:46:38
Looking for more "real life" photos of the red alert set and wondering if it's basically identical to IMSTOs older red alert thick PBT set in classic colors, for reference.  Or are the fonts going to be different?  They look a bit different based on the mockups.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:23:36
It would look similar sure, but my sets use my own recreated Cherry legends.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 24 May 2013, 12:42:48
I wonder how would the Arabic look like in US ANSI layout besides the French if possible.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 24 May 2013, 12:49:09
Sorry if I missed it, but the alphas in the Black, Red, and Ural sets are displayed wrong color wise, right?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 12:52:26
Ural has wrong color \ and ` keys, Scandinavia should be a 2tone, some mock ups have different tints. I have just been too lazy to fix it yet. Basically if you can imagine whatever on the blank mock up...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 24 May 2013, 20:12:46
Is my order still valid? Or do I need to fill the form out again?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 21:07:42
Don't see an order for you on the current sheet. The old one had a problem.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 24 May 2013, 23:35:30
Lysol does the Single E row (R1) 1x keys you offer them in blanks white and beige?  I haven't seen that option in the order form.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 24 May 2013, 23:39:17
Lysol does the Single E row (R1) 1x keys you offer them in blanks white and beige?  I haven't seen that option in the order form.

I have asked and would love to know the same.  I assumed the B-row caps will be beige.

Would also be cool to have an option for a full-white red alert set, without the beige.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: lewi on Sat, 25 May 2013, 20:22:46
i'm in
but
i written order form in two times seperate.
so, can you combine these order?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 26 May 2013, 14:37:48
It would look similar sure, but my sets use my own recreated Cherry legends.

What's the difference between your custom Cherry font and the other Cherry font?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: longweight on Mon, 27 May 2013, 04:58:47
Order submitted!


Can we have an order count against each option please?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 27 May 2013, 05:03:13
Order submitted!


Can we have an order count against each option please?

Good point!

I think this might encourage people to submit an order if they see it's close to 20.

This is hoping the German ISO DE sets make it :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 May 2013, 09:09:52
The difference in my legends is in the details. I didn't simply use some common rounded font.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 27 May 2013, 09:24:35
You can now review your order and see how close each option is to able to go to production.

Oh wow, in my enthusiasm (I ordered 5 sets) I thought way more people would jump on these awesome sets, but it looks like it will be a long way to reach 20 orders for some designs.

Hopefully more people will get onboard once the final mockups for each language option are up!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Mon, 27 May 2013, 10:10:49
Looking grim for scandinavia :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Halvar on Mon, 27 May 2013, 10:13:34
I'd really like a red DE-ISO set, but I have no idea where to find a fitting ISO return key, for example a blank one or a red one or something like that.

A black-on-beige one would kill the whole style and look lame.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 May 2013, 10:46:21
G80-3000LPCXX-0? If there are enough people interested in ISO, I suppose we could get some blank ABS ISO enter in closest possible matching color from GMK. Not really sure of any better option at the moment.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Mon, 27 May 2013, 10:49:51
I'd really like a red DE-ISO set, but I have no idea where to find a fitting ISO return key, for example a blank one or a red one or something like that.

A black-on-beige one would kill the whole style and look lame.

Any ideas?

Wasdkeyboards sells blank enters but the red looks really orangy.

I myself am hunting down a cheap old cherry board for the enter :7
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 27 May 2013, 10:57:24
I'd really like a red DE-ISO set, but I have no idea where to find a fitting ISO return key, for example a blank one or a red one or something like that.

A black-on-beige one would kill the whole style and look lame.

Any ideas?

I will use the ISO DE alphas on an ANSI board with blank modifiers until I find a fitting ISO enter key.

The thing is, if the language option fails, Lysol will never offer DE sets again, because it's not worth his effort to do the mockups, answer all the questions, etc.

We Germans should at least get one of the two sets done (I ordered both btw).

I am 100% sure that IMSTO will one day have the mold for the ISO enter key and then we could do a little group buy for enter keys with different color options.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 May 2013, 11:04:00
Apparently I need to find some way to publish orders where it is not possible to change the URL to view all the email and mailing address, someone knows how?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 27 May 2013, 12:28:11
What do you mean, the order form?  Or the combination form you are creating from the order forms?  If the former--I'm not sure...  If the latter, could you not just make that private?  Or copy into Excel (or similar) and manipulate the data as you wish.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 May 2013, 18:10:41
I just want people to be able to view the orders sheet but without possibility of seeing others personal informations.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 27 May 2013, 18:23:32
Apparently I need to find some way to publish orders where it is not possible to change the URL to view all the email and mailing address, someone knows how?

Did you not get my second PM ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 May 2013, 18:32:05
'Hiding' them doesn't work, ends up like what happened before.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 27 May 2013, 18:33:32
ah ok. could you copy all the orders to a new form perhaps?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 27 May 2013, 20:55:58
Go to "Data" and click on "Named and protected ranges". Then it's pretty straightforward.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mbc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 05:20:05
Quote from: LechnerDE

...
I am 100% sure that IMSTO will one day have the mold for the ISO enter key and then we could do a little group buy for enter keys with different color options.
rofl
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:00:27
Ivan, do you have my order or do I need to make a new one (I've no idea when I placed my order)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 28 May 2013, 13:50:19
me thinks this is the closest i am going to get to my old school two-tone beige without overpaying on originative.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 13:53:50
The difference being that with the sets from originativeco, you'd also get a winkeyless setup, which you don't get here. But then, doubleshot. Though, BSP is selling two-tone beige, they're expensive.

I really wish imsto could push the makers of these to just create what we need. These could be the most perfect sets!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Kouni on Tue, 28 May 2013, 17:01:32
Here's hoping FR ISO makes it to production...  :'(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: maxmalkav on Tue, 28 May 2013, 17:26:50
I really don't know if the ISO ES is going to receive enough love from the Spanish community. There are folks really interested on ISO ES stuff, but the economic situation of our country is well known and many of us are youngster not very wealthy and lately we have to prioritize quite a lot about our expenses, specially if they are about keyboards.

I hope the ES set can happen, I guess that it has to reach a certain MOQ for that.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:09:03
Only need 20 set to make. I understand some finances are not so nice, but it is still a cheaper price than many alternative especially for harder to find languages that don't get much release. I guess the missing enter is quite putting off many buyer. It's too bad.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:10:03
Quote from: LechnerDE

...
I am 100% sure that IMSTO will one day have the mold for the ISO enter key and then we could do a little group buy for enter keys with different color options.
rofl

you know whats funny? when I said would be awesome if Imsto could supply RGB sets, lots of peeps were lolling cause the MOQ was 1600 for the sets. Look whats on the list now, correct an RGB sets :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:18:15
I'm yet to see such an exotic languages layouts, color combos, 2 tone old style retro... if I could I would buy 1 of each, but I cant since I would like to get my hands on in future on the Trixk 108. We still have one more month to go, but would be shame to see this GB don't go trough.

Lysol maeby more options will get people moving on it, I know you have all full sets layouts already done but maeby small things will encourage people.

I'm speaking of more options that are doable, how about for the E row x1 keys have options on the colors, whether beige or white, also options if people would choose blank ones.

I'm speaking of more options like this to attract more people down the road, and peeps asked for the E row x1 blanks in both colors. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:22:58
lysol, maybe you or someone interested in ISO could run a concurrent ISO enter GB from SP? I know it would suck to have thick PBT and a thin cap, but at least its something.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:29:13
lysol, maybe you or someone interested in ISO could run a concurrent ISO enter GB from SP? I know it would suck to have thick PBT and a thin cap, but at least its something.

I thought this gb wasn't thick pbt style. Which one is it?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:30:33
Of course this GB is thick PBT...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: maxmalkav on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:30:54
Only need 20 set to make. I understand some finances are not so nice, but it is still a cheaper price than many alternative especially for harder to find languages that don't get much release. I guess the missing enter is quite putting off many buyer. It's too bad.


They are cheap indeed, I agree about that. If we don't get the MOQ for Spanish ES, I'll try to order an extra set (I know I'll regret to say this ;) )
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jonnybastard on Wed, 29 May 2013, 01:13:30
Submitted another order, think my last one was on the form that got canned.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Plater on Wed, 29 May 2013, 01:42:37
Very happy to have completed my order! Cant wait!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: calavera on Wed, 29 May 2013, 02:29:06
I apologize in advance, I didn't bother reading the whole thread. Are there any 1.5 mod options? Is this coming from the same manufacturer as IMSTO's dye subs?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Sai on Wed, 29 May 2013, 02:31:14
I apologize in advance, I didn't bother reading the whole thread. Are there any 1.5 mod options? Is this coming from the same manufacturer as IMSTO's dye subs?

nope. no 1.5 mods and 7x spacebar. :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 29 May 2013, 02:55:04
Well resent my order...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 29 May 2013, 04:40:59

!IMPORTANT:
If you made order prior to 20 May please submit new order as there was a problem with the order sheet. Sorry.


Okay I sent in another order, mainly because I want those OLD-style Windows keys and some other stuff.  Thanks.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 29 May 2013, 04:49:54
Put in my order for the all white Miami set. I was really hesitating, as I thought it looked kind of busy, but I would probably regret not picking this up.

Hopefully more people will submit orders for that set. I would actually happily jump to the most popular set if MOQ isn't reached by the deadline. There are only a couple that I'm really not interested in.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: pasph on Wed, 29 May 2013, 05:51:59
Orders count for the various options?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 May 2013, 08:22:06
Hollow: 1
Black US: 10
Black DE: 2
Black ES: 2
Black FR: 1
Black NO: 1
Red US: 6
Red DE: 2
Black&Charcoal: 2
Irish US: 6
Ural: 11
Miami US: 2
Miami ES: 2
Miami Limited: 12
Scandinavia: 4
Blank: 13

RGB: 19
Sets not listed have no orders (SC2 and D3 sets don't count towards MOQ and are already made so don't count). I didn't take the time to count the individual caps as it doesn't matter for MOQ.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 29 May 2013, 08:53:03
Seriously that few? :(. I've been vascillating between US Red and Black (should know for sure in the next few days).  Does it look like the red set might not make it to production?  It's probably my favorite.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 29 May 2013, 08:57:08
Just order it to encourage other people to get into that group buy. Worst thing that could happen is that it won't reach MOQ and doesn't get made.

I am kinda disappointed that the ISO DE options don't get more love, but I assume some people are still waiting for the final mockups...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 29 May 2013, 08:59:24
Miami limited? Is 'Miami ES' the ISO version ??
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 29 May 2013, 09:06:33
Miami limited has all white caps instead of the two tone look of the other sets.

Miami ES is the ISO version with spanish legends.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 29 May 2013, 09:15:28
Miami limited has all white caps instead of the two tone look of the other sets.

Miami ES is the ISO version with spanish legends.

So the only ISO option is with Spanish legends??
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: remedyhalopc on Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:20:24
What color caps are the Cherry logo caps being put on?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:07:36
I also was surprised how few have been ordered.

I will be in for a black US and probably RGB, but haven't decided which novelty keys to get yet.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:20:13
I also was surprised how few have been ordered.

I will be in for a black US and probably RGB, but haven't decided which novelty keys to get yet.

Yeah I'm changing to or adding Miami limited. I think the low figures might be related to $8 DS sets, but it's very early.

Ivan, anyway you could add this to the OP? It's very nice to look at :)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/30/uhu8u2a7.jpg)


Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:38:49

I think the low figures might be related to $8 DS sets, but it's very early.



My apologies.  :'( :-[ :-X :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:24:31
It seems none of the sets will go to production :[
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:31:26
It seems none of the sets will go to production :[

Still a whole month to go for orders.  Are those the totals between GH and DT?  I also wonder if some people who ordered early did not know to resubmit their order (Id go through the old form and check).

Might make sense to focus on the top count sets if there are still not enough orders by the deadline.  Like would the person who signed up for the hollow black legend set consider going with solid black, if hollow were not an option.  Etc.  but yeah, Im kinda shocked more people are not jumping on these: thick PBT, dye sub, cool colors, very nice fonts. The $8 doubleshot sets are not really competition, because they are entirely different.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:38:42
I also was surprised how few have been ordered.

I will be in for a black US and probably RGB, but haven't decided which novelty keys to get yet.

Yeah I'm changing to or adding Miami limited. I think the low figures might be related to $8 DS sets, but it's very early.

Ivan, anyway you could add this to the OP? It's very nice to look at :)

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/30/uhu8u2a7.jpg)





I still can't work out if an all white set would look better or worse than with grey mods...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:40:27
The mods are light beige.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: maxmalkav on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:49:15
The $8 doubleshot sets are not really competition, because they are entirely different.

Totally agree. I can speak for myself, I'm in both of them, the $8 sets seem nice to dress some random keyboards I don't care too much, at least until we check the quality of the keycaps. These high quality PBT sets are a different story for me, they are almost my only chance for having a proper ISO ES layout :(

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 29 May 2013, 17:47:16
well i ordered a US Black. so i am helping. hold your applause it is not necessary. you're welcome america.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: elttaboi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 18:43:53
Just set my order for a miami limited. When I first saw the mockup pics I was like 'they should do this on all white', then it happened!
sick city!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 May 2013, 19:23:48
I also was surprised how few have been ordered.

I will be in for a black US and probably RGB, but haven't decided which novelty keys to get yet.

Yeah I'm changing to or adding Miami limited. I think the low figures might be related to $8 DS sets, but it's very early.

Ivan, anyway you could add this to the OP? It's very nice to look at :)

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/30/uhu8u2a7.jpg)





Hey jocelyn this picture might be a bit misleading.. I think the flash made the keys look much "whiter" than they are..

Can you confirm they've actually begun making the "WHITE" that's in the picture.. otherwise, if you've seen my thread on the THICK pbts, they're VERY VERY Tan...  Monroe Bisque color, closer to Monterey white in Daylight..

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 29 May 2013, 19:27:39
Hey jocelyn this picture might be a bit misleading.. I think the flash made the keys look much "whiter" than they are..

Can you confirm they've actually begun making the "WHITE" that's in the picture.. otherwise, if you've seen my thread on the THICK pbts, they're VERY VERY Tan...  Monroe Bisque color, closer to Monterey white in Daylight..

That photo is from Ivan, not me. I have seen your thread, but I own a set of Imsto white Thick PBT blanks, and they look pretty white to me. Maybe not quite as white as the photo, but definitely not tan.

I'll edit this post with an outdoor photo of white/gray Imsto caps in a minute.

No flash, taken outside
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/30/megunade.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 May 2013, 19:32:33
Hey jocelyn this picture might be a bit misleading.. I think the flash made the keys look much "whiter" than they are..

Can you confirm they've actually begun making the "WHITE" that's in the picture.. otherwise, if you've seen my thread on the THICK pbts, they're VERY VERY Tan...  Monroe Bisque color, closer to Monterey white in Daylight..

That photo is from Ivan, not me. I have seen your thread, but I own a set of Imsto white Thick PBT blanks, and they look pretty white to me. Maybe not quite as white as the photo, but definitely not tan.

I'll edit this post with an outdoor photo of white/gray Imsto caps in a minute.

No flash, taken outside
Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/30/megunade.jpg)



Yes those look exactly like my caps..

I suppose you and I just have very different ideas of "Tan"


For example, If someone asked me for a white piece of paper, I would NEVER hand them a piece of paper of the ABOVE color..

The only time  I'd hand them that color, is if someone asked for Beige, or Cream...


Side note, Will gray mods be available in this GB?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 29 May 2013, 19:55:14
Okay, sure, if you go to a car supply shop, you'll see a dozen different "white" touch-up paint colors.  They still all appear white for all intents and purposes, unless compared against each other.  Are you going for the American Psycho moment?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:02:48
Okay, sure, if you go to a car supply shop, you'll see a dozen different "white" touch-up paint colors.  They still all appear white for all intents and purposes, unless compared against each other.  Are you going for the American Psycho moment?

I don't have some hidden agenda.. I'm just sharing my surprise experience, is all.. because I could see how some people expecting say, "titanium-white" would be disappointed...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:15:43
These should be Cherry replica colors, right?  So the white should be that white, I would guess.  Also, Ivan has posted about being very picky when it comes to color inconsistencies, even slight shade differences, so he's probably been picky with this one too.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:21:07
These should be Cherry replica colors, right?  So the white should be that white, I would guess.  Also, Ivan has posted about being very picky when it comes to color inconsistencies, even slight shade differences, so he's probably been picky with this one too.

I think there's some misconception of what I'm saying... There's nothing WRONG with this color... I quite like it...

But let's be more precise and call it what it is "BEIGE"
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:24:50
These should be Cherry replica colors, right?  So the white should be that white, I would guess.  Also, Ivan has posted about being very picky when it comes to color inconsistencies, even slight shade differences, so he's probably been picky with this one too.

I think there's some misconception of what I'm saying... There's nothing WRONG with this color... I quite like it...

But let's be more precise and call it what it is "BEIGE"

These mods are beige, not the alphas - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w17-4996320547.32.ONhOmi&id=16466008966&
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:32:33
It's true Cherry classics sets are not really white white, but they have a more creamy white with a more khaki like beige for the modifiers. These are like that.
imsto sample photo look bright, and you can see how light the legend look, compare to the mock ups which are exact same colors given as files to imsto.

There lots of buys happening, so if need to push the date to make the moq that is always a possibility. I just want to try avoid it taking months and months like the first PBT buy.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:34:56
Why are you arguing with that guy about white? My word...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:41:08
lysol, I have a question about the blue for the Miami set. Is it the same color that was on the Alt RGB legends from the last GB? If so, I would really like a different color. That blue does not fit with the Miami. The picture that was posted does look like the Blue is different, but I can't tell if it's the flash that is making it look as such. Either way, even that blue could stand to be more cyan.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:01:16
Yeah I'm changing to or adding Miami limited. I think the low figures might be related to $8 DS sets, but it's very early.

I suspect that the younger set has jumped onto buying their very FIRST key-sets for $8, here on Geekhack -  that's okay.

The ones who've selected the PBT sets are the serious customers who want the best.  Besides after the newbies get sick of their ABS's they'll come flocking to future PBT Group Buys.

Everyone needs to first start small with GB's then work their way up to the bigger stuff.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:05:54
Yeah, PBT is basically "end game" for me, in the sense that I'm paying a lot of money for something that should last for a long long time and be of high quality.  Those $8 sets are not changing the weather.  I ordered 3 for fun myself.  But I'm not sure I'll end up with use for them...  But I would definitely find use for these thick PBT keys.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:07:28
Yeah I'm changing to or adding Miami limited. I think the low figures might be related to $8 DS sets, but it's very early.

I suspect that the younger set has jumped onto buying their very FIRST key-sets for $8, here on Geekhack -  that's okay.

The ones who've selected the PBT sets are the serious customers who want the best.  Besides after the newbies get sick of their ABS's they'll come flocking to future PBT Group Buys.

Everyone needs to first start small with GB's then work their way up to the bigger stuff.

I am one of those "noob" you are referring to... I had been wondering if this group buy is particularly "cheap" in terms of price, can anyone provide a reference price of thick PBT with similar quality and quantity? Thanks very much!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:12:47
Yeah I'm changing to or adding Miami limited. I think the low figures might be related to $8 DS sets, but it's very early.

I suspect that the younger set has jumped onto buying their very FIRST key-sets for $8, here on Geekhack -  that's okay.

The ones who've selected the PBT sets are the serious customers who want the best.  Besides after the newbies get sick of their ABS's they'll come flocking to future PBT Group Buys.

Everyone needs to first start small with GB's then work their way up to the bigger stuff.

I am one of those "noob" you are referring to... I had been wondering if this group buy is particularly "cheap" in terms of price, can anyone provide a reference price of thick PBT with similar quality and quantity? Thanks very much!

Thick PBT sets go for $90+ on eBay and other vendors.  So a group buy will be cheaper, yes.  Look on Originative.com, eBay, and IMSTO's TaoBao page.  I'm pretty sure you misread; no one calls these sets "cheap".  We are calling the "$8" sets cheap.  These sets are a good value because their market value is close to $100.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:14:31
Yeah I'm changing to or adding Miami limited. I think the low figures might be related to $8 DS sets, but it's very early.

I suspect that the younger set has jumped onto buying their very FIRST key-sets for $8, here on Geekhack -  that's okay.

The ones who've selected the PBT sets are the serious customers who want the best.  Besides after the newbies get sick of their ABS's they'll come flocking to future PBT Group Buys.

Everyone needs to first start small with GB's then work their way up to the bigger stuff.

I am one of those "noob" you are referring to... I had been wondering if this group buy is particularly "cheap" in terms of price, can anyone provide a reference price of thick PBT with similar quality and quantity? Thanks very much!

Thick PBT sets go for $90+ on eBay and other vendors.  So a group buy will be cheaper, yes.  Look on Originative.com, eBay, and IMSTO's TaoBao page.  I'm pretty sure you misread; no one calls these sets "cheap".  We are calling the "$8" sets cheap.  These sets are a good value because their market value is close to $100.

Yes I do understand the quality of these keycaps compare to the $8 ones... I was saying "cheap" in terms of price compare to those of the retailer's, as of low-price, not cheap quality.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:16:59
So my questions is are these low-price group buy very hard to come by? I am planning to buy the up-coming ducky DK9008G2 Pro with thick PBT caps, how do those caps compare to these? Should I order a set because it is not expensive?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:47:03
Yeah I'm changing to or adding Miami limited. I think the low figures might be related to $8 DS sets, but it's very early.

I suspect that the younger set has jumped onto buying their very FIRST key-sets for $8, here on Geekhack -  that's okay.

The ones who've selected the PBT sets are the serious customers who want the best.  Besides after the newbies get sick of their ABS's they'll come flocking to future PBT Group Buys.

Everyone needs to first start small with GB's then work their way up to the bigger stuff.

And some of us are getting both :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:56:07
So my questions is are these low-price group buy very hard to come by? I am planning to buy the up-coming ducky DK9008G2 Pro with thick PBT caps, how do those caps compare to these? Should I order a set because it is not expensive?

You quoted my whole post where I explained the pricing and somehow asked the question I answered for you.  I was talking about the monetary value, literally...

ETA: The Ducky PBT caps should be good, probably on par with these. No point substituting thick PBT with thick PBT, unless you want different colors.  Ducky PBT will be of a taller OEM profile, vs these Cherry profile caps.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: remedyhalopc on Thu, 30 May 2013, 00:50:26
What color caps are the Cherry logo caps being put on?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 30 May 2013, 06:14:48
What color caps are the Cherry logo caps being put on?

Now that there are white (yes, white) sets as well as two-tone, it would be nice to male that choice, as I mentioned before.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 30 May 2013, 21:23:20
lysol, I have a question about the blue for the Miami set. Is it the same color that was on the Alt RGB legends from the last GB? If so, I would really like a different color. That blue does not fit with the Miami. The picture that was posted does look like the Blue is different, but I can't tell if it's the flash that is making it look as such. Either way, even that blue could stand to be more cyan.

What color caps are the Cherry logo caps being put on?

I would love to hear more about both of these :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Moptest on Fri, 31 May 2013, 04:54:52
what format are the "DE ISO" Keycaps? Is it Denmark Layout?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Fri, 31 May 2013, 05:00:32
what format are the "DE ISO" Keycaps? Is it Denmark Layout?

It is german layout, danish layout would be the Scandinavia/nordic
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:12:08
Right, Nordic take care of Danish, Finnish, Norwegian and Swedish.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 June 2013, 03:22:39
Ordered :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: ilezia on Sun, 02 June 2013, 08:39:28
Hello! I'm in for a red us ansi, here's hoping we get to the MOQ!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 02 June 2013, 18:46:45
Hello! I'm in for a red us ansi, here's hoping we get to the MOQ!


What's the current MOQ?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:19:37
Hello! I'm in for a red us ansi, here's hoping we get to the MOQ!


What's the current MOQ?

20 sets of each kind.
Changed my order back to Red Alert.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: remedyhalopc on Mon, 03 June 2013, 00:20:00
What color caps are the Cherry logo caps being put on?

Ivan!!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 00:34:57
What color caps are the Cherry logo caps being put on?

Ivan!!!!

Asked this a couple times too, but I believe the modifiers will be on beige and the top row keys will be on white.  At least that would match the majority of sets, so that would be the most practical.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 June 2013, 00:42:52
i see nearly half the cherry logo caps have been removed...if i order practically one or two of each, will the ones removed just be removed off my order?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 00:45:02
i see nearly half the cherry logo caps have been removed...if i order practically one or two of each, will the ones removed just be removed off my order?

Where are you seeing that?  The list of pictures is the same, and I just checked the Order Form--all colors are still there.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 June 2013, 00:46:01
i see nearly half the cherry logo caps have been removed...if i order practically one or two of each, will the ones removed just be removed off my order?

Where are you seeing that?  The list of pictures is the same, and I just checked the Order Form--all colors are still there.

LOL that just shows how tired I am haha
thought half the cherry logo designs disappeared  :))
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: amzee on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:44:01
Will the Colemak set have both backspace keys? If so, will the stepped "caps lock" key in that set be legended as backspace as well?

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:58:55
Whatever is normal on Colemak. I don't use that layout so I only have the generic layoutfile from wikipedia or whatever. I will find out again what color caps the individual can be. I think possible white, grey, blue... but I will make sure.

Ваши яички воняет брынзы в рассоле козу!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:59:29
lysol, I have a question about the blue for the Miami set. Is it the same color that was on the Alt RGB legends from the last GB? If so, I would really like a different color. That blue does not fit with the Miami. The picture that was posted does look like the Blue is different, but I can't tell if it's the flash that is making it look as such. Either way, even that blue could stand to be more cyan.

What about this Ivan? :)

See mock ups, exact same colors will be given as legend files to imsto for printing. Seems to be a pretty wysiwyg between files and the actual printed colors on the caps.

Thanks for the response
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:00:35
See mock ups, exact same colors will be given as legend files to imsto for printing. Seems to be a pretty wysiwyg between files and the actual printed colors on the caps.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:02:23
Ваши яички воняет брынзы в рассоле козу!

What is this from?  It doesn't make sense :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:04:16
I felt the thread needed some Russian insults...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:05:59
I will post some Russian insults if these sets don't reach MOQ!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:26:00
With just under a month to go, how are the order counts now?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:37:28
Orders are not much change actually. More orders for single caps than sets really.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:43:23
We should get a breakdown close to the end date and perhaps make some changes to our second choices.  Like the black legend US ANSI is likely to go through then, and probably the white Miami set.  But I do wish more people ordered the Red Alert set!

(Post pretty photos of the Starcraft set!)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:48:55
I felt the thread needed some Russian insults...

lol damn
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 04 June 2013, 00:55:07
Orders are not much change actually. More orders for single caps than sets really.

Wow, that's kinda disappointing. I guess at least 2 of my 5 ordered sets won't make it :(

I hoped at least one of the German Sets would go through, because there are many Germany users here and on DT, but I guess the missing ISO-Enter scared people off...

On the other hand there were so many awesome GBs this year already that people might just be broke and have spent their keyboard budget for 2013 already :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mauri on Tue, 04 June 2013, 05:14:36
Well honestly the missing iso enter is really big yet I ordered since nordic legends are hard to come by especially pbt so far I've been stuck to blanks
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 04 June 2013, 07:36:07
There is still all month. Towards end of month I will cut sets that didn't make it and give chance for anyone ordered those cut sets to change if they wish. If still pretty much nothing is there I will extend the ordering for awhile. If there is still nothing, then I will revisit the concepts later.
For the ISO peeps, if there is say 100 that order ISO set, we could get some ISO return blanks from GMK. I doubt a 3 pack of ISO return keys would be too expensive.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: jabar on Tue, 04 June 2013, 07:38:15
can you keep a live list of order quantities?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 04 June 2013, 07:43:33
For the ISO peeps, if there is say 100 that order ISO set, we could get some ISO return blanks from GMK. I doubt a 3 pack of ISO return keys would be too expensive.

That sounds good! I'd be in for enter keys for my 2 ISO sets. But those would match the other modifiers colorwise correct?

btw

What did your russian sentence say? I am really curios :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Normano on Tue, 04 June 2013, 10:56:05
Do the Nordic - ISO layout have the extra characters at the bottom left on the A/S/D/Z/X/T/O/N/M keys? I haven't seen them on the Swedish, Danish, or Norwegian layout. I'm probably up for a Black Nordic - ISO.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 04 June 2013, 11:16:18
Those extra characters come from extended Finish, and would only be on that Scandinavia design. The black legends version won't have all the extra legends just plain Nordic layout like you would see on a Filco, qpad or what have you.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: elttaboi on Tue, 04 June 2013, 14:24:33
How many sets do you think will be sold in total?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Cafiend on Tue, 04 June 2013, 14:25:03
I wouldn't mind switching to another set if that set is just a few off the mark...or even order another set.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 04 June 2013, 14:31:25
I wouldn't mind switching to another set if that set is just a few off the mark...or even order another set.

That's the spirit!!

 ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 04 June 2013, 14:33:00
I wouldn't mind switching to another set if that set is just a few off the mark...or even order another set.

Same here.

Is there any way to check what I did order? 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 04 June 2013, 15:11:05
I'm still trying to understand how to make published sheet show only select data without possibility to manipulate the URL to unhide it.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 04 June 2013, 15:17:48
I'm still trying to understand how to make published sheet show only select data without possibility to manipulate the URL to unhide it.

Was this something that did not help?

Go to "Data" and click on "Named and protected ranges". Then it's pretty straightforward.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 04 June 2013, 16:48:07
There is still all month. Towards end of month I will cut sets that didn't make it and give chance for anyone ordered those cut sets to change if they wish. If still pretty much nothing is there I will extend the ordering for awhile. If there is still nothing, then I will revisit the concepts later.
For the ISO peeps, if there is say 100 that order ISO set, we could get some ISO return blanks from GMK. I doubt a 3 pack of ISO return keys would be too expensive.

The only sensible approach :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: npgatech on Tue, 04 June 2013, 23:33:41
Sorry to ask a stupid question, but I am seriously thinking about ordering a set:

- These keys would be compatible with which keyboard brands? I currently have a Max Keyboard X9, and I know that the spacebar and some of the other keys are not compatible.
- Do you think these will be compatible with WASD V2 that is suppose to come out soon?
- Can I order a mac command key in addition to windows key? I use my keyboards on both mac & windows.

Thanks! Looking forward to ordering :)

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 04 June 2013, 23:37:12
they will be compatible with WASD V2
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 05 June 2013, 07:18:00
These sets are compatible with any MX keyboard with 1.25 modifier 104/105, 87/88, 61/62 keys except spacebars on Leopold, Keycool, Plum.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: MAFAKINGAME on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:51:23
Is this similar to the blank PBT sets offered here?
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113_1277&products_id=18339

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 June 2013, 11:05:32
Is this similar to the blank PBT sets offered here?
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113_1277&products_id=18339

No, the caps in this GB have Cherry profile while those caps in your link have the unique Leopold profile which is taller than Cherry but smaller than OEM.

Additionally the Leopold spacepar has different stems. The spacebar in this GB has the standard stems that fit on 99% of modern keyboards like Filco, Ducky, etc.


EDIT:

I assume you are asking because your set is way cheaper than these sets here.

Well, there is no info whether the Leopold keys are PBT or ABS and they are blank and not dyesubbed so you cant really compare the price. 75$ for a set is a good deal if this is what you are asking.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:30:35
i really hate to do this. i am so sorry but i am going to have to back out of my order. something came up. so sorry. i know you guys are hurting for minimum orders.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:32:25
i really hate to do this. i am so sorry but i am going to have to back out of my order. something came up. so sorry. i know you guys are hurting for minimum orders.
It's ok ill order a red :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:34:01
i really hate to do this. i am so sorry but i am going to have to back out of my order. something came up. so sorry. i know you guys are hurting for minimum orders.
It's ok ill order a red :)

Go Team Red!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: whiteduck on Wed, 05 June 2013, 16:14:22
i really hate to do this. i am so sorry but i am going to have to back out of my order. something came up. so sorry. i know you guys are hurting for minimum orders.
It's ok ill order a red :)

Go Team Miami Limited!
ftfy <3

-wd
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: elttaboi on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:21:51
i really hate to do this. i am so sorry but i am going to have to back out of my order. something came up. so sorry. i know you guys are hurting for minimum orders.
It's ok ill order a red :)

Go Team Miami Limited!
ftfy <3

-wd


^Yes, this.  :)

The only thing I don't really like about the set is the winkey design. I'd prefer it to be simpler.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:28:04
i really hate to do this. i am so sorry but i am going to have to back out of my order. something came up. so sorry. i know you guys are hurting for minimum orders.
It's ok ill order a red :)

Go Team Miami Limited!
ftfy <3

-wd


^Yes, this.  :)

The only thing I don't really like about the set is the winkey design. I'd prefer it to be simpler.

Wait can you buy Miami in only US ANSI? Or does it come like the picture?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:33:28
It's 80's inspired like. What can be wrong with that? it will look baller, trust me.
[attachimg=1]

There is two language options for Miami. US/Ukrainian and Spanish/Ukrainian. It's called Odessa remix for a reason vato.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:02:12
It's 80's inspired like. What can be wrong with that? it will look baller, trust me.
(Attachment Link)

There is two language options for Miami. US/Ukrainian and Spanish/Ukrainian. It's called Odessa remix for a reason vato.

Oh thanks. I don't want Ukrainian on my keyboard. So I guess I won't order that. I agree though, those colors are fly.
Also I've never heard the term "Odessa Remix".

Edit: by never heard I meant I never heard Odessa anywhere but here.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:05:26
It's labeled as such in the OP, Miami (Odessa Mix). If you want straight single language I will try and swing it in some variation with GMK doubleshots one of these days.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:47:57
Can't believe I've only just seen this GB.  Quick question:
Will the Irish - US Intl. - ANSI set have the extra light green characters, or are those unique to the GB ISO version (I ask because I want them)?  I'm not familiar with different country legend standards.

Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: JoanneLee on Wed, 05 June 2013, 23:53:02
Hows the blank set orders looking? Anywhere close to the min. 20?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 06 June 2013, 00:04:35
Can't believe I've only just seen this GB.  Quick question:
Will the Irish - US Intl. - ANSI set have the extra light green characters, or are those unique to the GB ISO version (I ask because I want them)?  I'm not familiar with different country legend standards.

Thanks!

Pretty sure the layout that is shown is what you get with the US ANSI set--it has the additional Irish legend.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Sai on Thu, 06 June 2013, 02:47:08
ivan, please change my order to blank. thanks :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 06 June 2013, 04:06:33
As the RGB is only Shift/Ctrl/Alt, can anyone suggest where to get Win and Menu keys in, say, black on yellow (Win) and black on orange (Menu) that would match in profile, legend etc.?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 06 June 2013, 04:18:50
I think I asked this before but not sure if I got a real answer.
Would it be possible to get nordic legends on an ANSI layout?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 06 June 2013, 04:26:08
I think I asked this before but not sure if I got a real answer.
Would it be possible to get nordic legends on an ANSI layout?

Well, Ivan is only offering what is shown in the mockups.

But if you get 20 people to buy such a set, he'd probably allow it. Keep in mind that you won't have the "<>" key when you use ANSI though
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:06:10
Yeah pretty much. If there is enough interest I can make DE/Nordic/whatever happen on an ANSI physical set.
RGB is only the 6 keys. Maybe next time we can get some extra keys in other colors for win/menu/whatever with it.
Irish US Intl is as shown in the OP, GB Intl is very similar ISO version with some legends shuffled around but is more or less the same thing.

Current orders:
Black US: 14
Black DE: 3
Black ES: 1
Black FR: 1
Black NO: 1
Red US: 10
Red DE: 3
Blck/Chrcl: 1
Irish US: 7
Ural: 12
Miami US/UA: 4
Miami Ltd: 15
Miami ES/UA: 2
Scandinavia: 4
Blank: 14

Total: 92

Still a long way to go.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:19:19
If there is enough interest I can make DE/Nordic/whatever happen on an ANSI physical set.

Yeah, that's a good idea. Right now it seems like none of the ISO sets will be close to 20 and I think this is due to the missing Enter key. Apparantly people want complete sets or nothing.

I'd buy ANSI DE sets any day :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: maxmalkav on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:57:44

Yeah, that's a good idea. Right now it seems like none of the ISO sets will be close to 20 and I think this is due to the missing Enter key. Apparantly people want complete sets or nothing.

I'd buy ANSI DE sets any day :)

The lack of ISO enter key is a hassle. Still wondering myself why any company doen't make an investment in order to produce PBT Enter keys (IIRC, Cherry and Ducky are the only ones providing them). I know it's an expensive thing (around $12.000) but it should pay for itself after some time :S

Foreseeing the lack o succes of the ISO ES layout, I guess I'll have to survive with a blank and Irish sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IcyEyeG on Thu, 06 June 2013, 10:05:39
Still a long way to go.

How about the novelty caps? Will they be made first if some of them reach 20 orders?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 June 2013, 10:28:20
Wellp.  If all the sets I ordered are produced then my wallet will be hurting.

You made too many attractive sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 06 June 2013, 10:51:54
if the ISO set dsnt go through I'll go for the miami US and if that dsnt go through then the limited thing
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 06 June 2013, 10:54:47
Will start dropping off choices around the 20th or so, and give chance to switch options for those that wish to. Depending on how things go this could end up being novelty keys only, and revisit sets later.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 06 June 2013, 11:01:14
Depending on how things go this could end up being novelty keys only, and revisit sets later.

This would be the case if we don't reach the 300 sets total right? So even if Miami Ltd gets 50 orders it won't happen?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 June 2013, 11:03:37
Depending on how things go this could end up being novelty keys only, and revisit sets later.

This would be the case if we don't reach the 300 sets total right? So even if Miami Ltd gets 50 orders it won't happen?

I was wondering about Miami Ltd too.  I think it was said that the keys are in hand, so maybe (hopefully) it's different?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 06 June 2013, 11:07:31
Need 20 or more, can do Miami on all white key since sets still on hand from last time. It's OK. Maybe some other can do too, depend on if imsto want to make less with 2tone or not. We will just have to see what it is looking like in couple week.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:35:09
Two questions before I place an order:

#1 Is there a status page somewhere? (I admit I didn't read all 16 pages of posts.)

#2 Are BLANK R4 1.25 mods available?  I see them in some of the sets, but not individually.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 07 June 2013, 06:13:04
These sets are compatible with any MX keyboard with 1.25 modifier 104/105, 87/88, 61/62 keys except spacebars on Leopold, Keycool, Plum.

Just to mention that the space bar on the KeyCool 87 is the same as that on Filco i.e. standard.

This post has the pics: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43143.msg920703#msg920703

I also tried the Filco space bar on the KeyCool and the KeyCool space bar on the QFR - both fitted perfectly.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Moosecraft on Fri, 07 June 2013, 18:10:17
****, I'm so mad that they don't have ISO enters..
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Acanthophis on Fri, 07 June 2013, 19:37:52
I'm more mad they don't have 1.5u, 1.75u and 7u molds :/
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 07 June 2013, 19:54:50
If only could figure out which is the source from Noppoo, Neo, Plum keycap we could also get the 1.5 and 1.75 sorted.
There is no status page.
I think I will stick to what individual caps are listed now this time. Will look into getting something co-ordination with imsto for a more varied single cap buy a bit later on.

I didn't realize Keycool changed that. When they came out they were exactly like Leopold. I will try and remember that there is no problem there now.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 10 June 2013, 04:45:34
No posts for 3 days in this thread :(

Come on people, order some sets!!

 :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: UniClown on Mon, 10 June 2013, 20:22:08
Are the E row cherry keys going to be on a white background or on a biege background?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 10 June 2013, 20:30:02
Sorry I thought I posted about that. Single key can be on blue/light grey/medium grey/white. I will assume white unless told otherwise.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: UniClown on Mon, 10 June 2013, 20:51:34
Sorry I thought I posted about that. Single key can be on blue/light grey/medium grey/white. I will assume white unless told otherwise.

No biege :(  Thanks for the quick response.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Halvar on Tue, 11 June 2013, 01:33:50
So I guess blue means the color of the startcraft set, and white the white of the white/beige sets, right?

What is light grey and what is medium grey?

Is medium grey the color of the Diablo set? Or is medium grey = beige?

And light grey would be the modern Cherry "hellgrau"?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 11 June 2013, 07:49:15
Blue = starcraft, light grey = beige (I think, I will clarify with imsto), medium grey = diablo, white = same color as letter keys it's same off white color used in both all 'white' and 'white'/beige sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rindorbrot on Tue, 11 June 2013, 12:29:14
I really hope the single keys will be beige
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: UniClown on Tue, 11 June 2013, 13:58:50
I really hope the single keys will be beige

I want to go all out and have all my F keys be cherry logos.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:12:45
Ivan
Do you have any real life pictures of the windows keys for the diablo set?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:49:39
So wait.

Are these sets just white and beige? Or, are any of these sets light grey and medium grey?

I thought all these sets were white and grey.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 11 June 2013, 16:04:01
Look at the first post--specifically the bottom two full sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:07:05
going to jump on the Trix full board, cant afford the full set and RGB, sorry Ivan :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: UniClown on Wed, 12 June 2013, 14:49:18
Blue = starcraft, light grey = beige (I think, I will clarify with imsto), medium grey = diablo, white = same color as letter keys it's same off white color used in both all 'white' and 'white'/beige sets.

Please get back to us with what Imsto says.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 13 June 2013, 16:16:14
Please cancel my order. Thanks.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 15 June 2013, 16:16:46
OK, so this is what is NOT in danger of being deleted as options:
BLANK
MIAMI LTD
URAL
IRISH US INTL
RED US
BLACK US
Even those listed above still have not all reached the 20 minimum. I would like to see at least those make the 20 so those can be run. Either way, if sets can't make it I will still try to go ahead with the individual keys and RGB modifiers sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: UniClown on Sat, 15 June 2013, 16:42:02
OK, so this is what is NOT in danger of being deleted as options:
BLANK
MIAMI LTD
URAL
IRISH US INTL
RED US
BLACK US
Even those listed above still have not all reached the 20 minimum. I would like to see at least those make the 20 so those can be run. Either way, if sets can't make it I will still try to go ahead with the individual keys and RGB modifiers sets.

Thanks.

BTW: Photobucket has stopped showing the images in the first post because it is using too much bandwidth.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 15 June 2013, 19:18:38
OK, so this is what is NOT in danger of being deleted as options:
BLANK
MIAMI LTD
URAL
IRISH US INTL
RED US
BLACK US
Even those listed above still have not all reached the 20 minimum. I would like to see at least those make the 20 so those can be run. Either way, if sets can't make it I will still try to go ahead with the individual keys and RGB modifiers sets.

That should read individual keys, RGB modifier sets, and MIAMI LTD, right? I'm asking because I thought Imsto already had 50 write sets on hand.

Edit - Never mind, I guess MIAMI LTD hasn't necessarily hit 20 yet.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 15 June 2013, 20:50:12
Right it still need at least 20 set for set up to make it worth their time.
Thanks Photoelectric for mirroring the layout images because photobucket sucks. I need to get some other account another place one of these days when I am not too lazy to do so.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 15 June 2013, 21:49:20
Sure--this Group Buy needs more exposure for more awesome keycaps! 

Here is my current plan for 2 TKL keyboards :)

(http://i.imgur.com/k43hnlD.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HJniooc.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: lespaul on Sun, 16 June 2013, 10:24:27
Is there any status page?
How can i check my order?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 16 June 2013, 10:51:30
lespaul, I show you down for 1 Black US, 1 Blank.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 11:21:08
I was about to fill the order form in for a hollow set. Should I just go for one of the ones not in danger of being canceled?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 17 June 2013, 11:27:02
Half a month ago there was only 1 order for the Hollow set.  Not sure about now, but I'd go for a different set in terms of likelihood of reaching MOQ.
The Hollow set is definitely very cool.  Perhaps the numbers have changed.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: iAmAhab on Mon, 17 June 2013, 11:33:25
My dream of a two tone nordic iso is dying!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 13:53:36
Half a month ago there was only 1 order for the Hollow set.  Not sure about now, but I'd go for a different set in terms of likelihood of reaching MOQ.
The Hollow set is definitely very cool.  Perhaps the numbers have changed.

It's cool. It's minimalistic. Shows just enough info. It removes the shift type information but isn't overly simple where there is no text whatsoever.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Mysteric on Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:57:19
Is blank ISO an option at all?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: lespaul on Tue, 18 June 2013, 21:41:21
IvanIvanovich, If e-mail address is used for paypal, I wanna change my e-mail assress.
I sent you message
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:37:30
IvanIvanovich, If e-mail address is used for paypal, I wanna change my e-mail assress.
x@y.z -> x@y.z (my paypal account)

Er, strongly suggest you remove the email address from the post and send it via PM.

Lotsa web scrapers out there will grab your email address otherwise.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: bardomudo on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:45:29
So, have the invoices been sent yet? Do I have to wait until after June 30?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 19 June 2013, 00:49:01
So, have the invoices been sent yet? Do I have to wait until after June 30?

No, the invoices haven't been sent out yet. Right now most sets haven't reach MOQ, so it is totally unclear whether your oder will go trough.

Ivan will soon decide which sets will be dropped. Maybe the GB will be extended. We'll see :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: lespaul on Wed, 19 June 2013, 03:35:23
IvanIvanovich, If e-mail address is used for paypal, I wanna change my e-mail assress.
x@y.z -> x@y.z (my paypal account)

Er, strongly suggest you remove the email address from the post and send it via PM.

Lotsa web scrapers out there will grab your email address otherwise.

ah ok thanx
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:50:13
Right, no invoicing until after order close. imsto already order the white/beige so they are on hand. This means we just need to reach the 20 minimum for each style for that option to happen now. So at least some sets will make it.

Here are the different color keys for singles available. Seems that only blue may be available for 1.25 currently. I am trying to see what it takes quantity to order light grey 1.25 keys from the factory.
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[edit] So... factory wants order for 10,000 key for beige 1.25 LOL so it looks like only blue it is. I will assume many will be cancelled. Sorry.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: ilezia on Wed, 19 June 2013, 14:40:34
Ivan could you give an order count right now please? How are the red's doing?

Thanks
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 19 June 2013, 15:01:39
I'm up to my eyes in GMK stuff right at the minute. I will have a look later on.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: asura on Wed, 19 June 2013, 15:02:59
Filled a swimming pool and dived in did we?  :))
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 19 June 2013, 15:08:34
Paw keys available as part of the set?

Please?? :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 19 June 2013, 15:20:41
Was just what imsto happened to take photo of to show all the keycap colors. I suppose you can buy them from imsto if you like those.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rindorbrot on Wed, 19 June 2013, 16:21:39
How can we choose the color for the single keys? I guess the second key with the red paw on it should be the same grey as the modifiers, or is it the rightmost key?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 19 June 2013, 16:24:56
I just put the colors in parentheses in my order.  Like "1 E (white)"
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: UniClown on Thu, 20 June 2013, 17:36:25
Right, no invoicing until after order close. imsto already order the white/beige so they are on hand. This means we just need to reach the 20 minimum for each style for that option to happen now. So at least some sets will make it.

Here are the different color keys for singles available. Seems that only blue may be available for 1.25 currently. I am trying to see what it takes quantity to order light grey 1.25 keys from the factory.
(Attachment Link)

[edit] So... factory wants order for 10,000 key for beige 1.25 LOL so it looks like only blue it is. I will assume many will be cancelled. Sorry.

Thanks Ivan!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: rindorbrot on Thu, 20 June 2013, 17:56:10
So... factory wants order for 10,000 key for beige 1.25 LOL so it looks like only blue it is. I will assume many will be cancelled. Sorry.

Does this mean ALL the single keys will be blue?
How is this going to work if on all the full set there are also grey 1.25x keys?

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 20 June 2013, 19:31:10
No The E row 1x have the 4 color choice shown in post #491, the B row 1.25 is blue only sadly.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 20 June 2013, 20:19:03
If you want to publish the spreadsheet for everyone to see. Just hide the columns that you want hidden and go to file --> publish to the web --> publish now button
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 20 June 2013, 20:45:09
I tried to do that before and it didn't work so that you couldn't drop the end of the url and not see then entire data. I guess I need to do something like tell it to copy columns X, Y to another sheet or something with a formula or whatever... then share that? I'm no spreadsheet wizard, that is for sure.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IcyEyeG on Fri, 21 June 2013, 04:49:33
Right, no invoicing until after order close. imsto already order the white/beige so they are on hand. This means we just need to reach the 20 minimum for each style for that option to happen now. So at least some sets will make it.

Here are the different color keys for singles available. Seems that only blue may be available for 1.25 currently. I am trying to see what it takes quantity to order light grey 1.25 keys from the factory.
(Attachment Link)

[edit] So... factory wants order for 10,000 key for beige 1.25 LOL so it looks like only blue it is. I will assume many will be cancelled. Sorry.

No The E row 1x have the 4 color choice shown in post #491, the B row 1.25 is blue only sadly.

In that case, I want to cancel my order, please.  :(
I'd suggest to update the first post with a notice, so that people realize that the 1.25 novelty caps are only available in blue.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: mashby on Fri, 21 June 2013, 15:12:30
I could resist no longer. I ordered a set of blanks and one each of all the novelty keys.  ;D

Edit: And I clearly made a mistake on the novelty keys. Ivan, can you put me down for one of each type? In other words both E and B. Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 21 June 2013, 15:58:10
I could resist no longer. I ordered a set of blanks and one each of all the novelty keys.  ;D

Edit: And I clearly made a mistake on the novelty keys. Ivan, can you put me down for one of each type? In other words both E and B. Thanks!

Yea! Go for the gold.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 21 June 2013, 18:32:14
I will get everything updated as soon as I can take some time, clean up options and clarify the OP. I will probably extend this a couple week since I have not been able to give this as much attention while trying to get all the GMK stuff shipped out.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 21 June 2013, 18:39:41
^ And substitute Hollow with Teal! /poke /poke  (like red alert but teal)
(one can always hope!)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:34:55
Options have changed. Please resubmit your order. Sorry to do this again!

All designs that were previously offered that did not have at least 10 orders as of today were cut. Single keys are only available as E row profile. The B row 1.25 singles turns out is only available in blue which doesn't match with anything... so I make decision not to offer.

Just finished new options mock ups, now in OP. In regard to Mac version, I used what seemed to be the most 'standard' adaptation on 104 PC keyboards. If this is 'wrong' according to most of consensus it can be adjusted as needed.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:37:31
SWEEEET: green and blue legends!!!  Decisions decisions.  Getting URAL for sure, and probably GREEN legends.  I would PM all the people who ordered in one mass BCC PM to make sure they see this announcement to resubmit their orders.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:41:56
I would love to, but the google sheet exploded again... it seems to go ape**** when I make changes to the ordering form and self destruct. It's really annoying.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: UniClown on Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:42:19
Are the 1.25 windows keys in the full set going to come in color as shown in the black US mockup?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:43:06
I would love to, but the google sheet exploded again... it seems to go ape**** when I make changes to the ordering form and self destruct. It's really annoying.

I would make a shadow copy to Excel (or Open Office equivalent) so you at least preserve the information for yourself.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:44:24
I don't really have a need for the Black - US standard - ANSI (MAC version), but it looks really nice. Good job on the Mac mods :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: kenmai9 on Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:49:30
Alright you got me. In for 1 green. Lol.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 16:03:46
Are the 1.25 windows keys in the full set going to come in color as shown in the black US mockup?

Yes. There was a lot of interest in the retro windows, but single 1.25 keys not available now sadly in set matching color, so I figured this is best solution... though not a cheap one for those that didn't want a full set to go with them... sorry.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: UniClown on Sat, 22 June 2013, 16:06:26
Are the 1.25 windows keys in the full set going to come in color as shown in the black US mockup?

Yes. There was a lot of interest in the retro windows, but single 1.25 keys not available now sadly in set matching color, so I figured this is best solution... though not a cheap one for those that didn't want a full set to go with them... sorry.

Yah stinks for the people that didn't want the full set, but the retro windows look very nice and are better than the windows 8 symbol imo.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: missalaire on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:34:39
What happened to the Starcraft PBT set?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:36:09
 I dropped those since barely any interest. I think like 3 orders?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sat, 22 June 2013, 18:06:52
I'm not sure if this has been addressed before but would it be possible to provide a modifier pack? I'm particularly interested in these two keys but the windows 8 ones are cool as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/EVO3cwV.png) 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 18:24:16
Problem is keys availability. imsto only have blue color 1.25 for singles, rest are in full sets which don't want to break up. New order with the factory for single 1.25 is 10,000 key. It's not going to be reasonable.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sat, 22 June 2013, 18:28:15
Problem is keys availability. imsto only have blue color 1.25 for singles, rest are in full sets which don't want to break up. New order with the factory for single 1.25 is 10,000 key. It's not going to be reasonable.

10,000 MOQ? Challenge accepted. 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: ___q on Sat, 22 June 2013, 19:20:00
Thanks for the email letting us know that we needed to reorder!

Placed a new order. I hope the MOQs work out for the sets I want.

Just curious (not in any way a dealbreaker, and maybe this has already been discussed): why the blank winkeys on the irish set? Wouldn't a green cherry or win8 logo work there?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 22 June 2013, 19:23:41
Order (re-)submitted!

Btw I ordered a black Mac set, hopefully if this does not meet MOQ (which might be expected) will I have the opportunity to change it to black PC version?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 22 June 2013, 19:25:53
Have just refilled another Order Form.

Although losing the old style Windows Logo key had dampened my enthusiasm for this Group Order, it was nice to still see it in the Black and White keyset.

You should still apply it to the Green, Red and Blue sets as well, not a fan of Windows 8 in any way let alone having it's Logo thrust into any key-set.

Never lose that old Logo, Ivan.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 22 June 2013, 19:59:43
So I have to re order, right?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 20:00:09
So I have to re order, right?

If you have not re-ordered today already, yes.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 20:17:22
Sorry about having to make you enter the orders again fresh. I hope this is the last time I have to request that. For whatever reason it seems googledocs don't like it when I try and remove lots of things from the forms. I don't intend to need to make more of those kinds of changes though so it should be all good.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: missalaire on Sat, 22 June 2013, 21:20:15
I dropped those since barely any interest. I think like 3 orders?

Ah damn, that's what my order was. Oh well, more money saved up.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: fuzzyx3000 on Sat, 22 June 2013, 21:45:02
Hi, would it be possible to change my order from black to blank? I read it too quickly, before realizing my mistake =z
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 21:58:03
Don't forget, when you submit your order, you also get a link to edit your order on the order confirmation page.  Save that somewhere (I send it to my e-mail account).
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 22 June 2013, 22:13:34
Order re-submitted :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 22:29:04
If you miss the link and need to change you order, just submit again. If you don't want to write all your info like mailing address just type in same or something. I will see it when I cull for duplicates.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: lespaul on Sat, 22 June 2013, 23:03:47
So, we cannot order black win8 1.25? just we can order black win retro style?  :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 22 June 2013, 23:18:53
Damn.  Somehow, I ended up ordering more this time around.   :eek:  Did you add that blue set?  These are all so great...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 23:21:02
Damn.  Somehow, I ended up ordering more this time around.   :eek:  Did you add that blue set?  These are all so great...

He added blue and green, yes :)  They are pretty sweet!
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So, we cannot order black win8 1.25? just we can order black win retro style?

Yes, I believe that is correct.  You can select one of the pictured sets, and the only separate caps available are E-row single caps and the RGB modifier set.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 23 June 2013, 01:04:26
Just curious (not in any way a dealbreaker, and maybe this has already been discussed): why the blank winkeys on the irish set? Wouldn't a green cherry or win8 logo work there?

Yeah, I am asking myself the same question. I hope it's just because Ivan was in a hurry making those mockups and simply forgot it. Wouldn't make any sense to leave those 2 keys blank...


Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Halvar on Sun, 23 June 2013, 04:47:34
Youse should have shamrocks on them!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: kekstee on Sun, 23 June 2013, 05:44:50
Hrrng. Blue legends. Must… resist…
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: maxmalkav on Sun, 23 June 2013, 05:47:38
Hrrng. Blue legends. Must… resist…

(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/288/7/a/i_know_that_feel_bro_by_rober_raik-d4cxn5a.png)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 23 June 2013, 05:58:18
I resubmitted my order. Really unfortunate that the ISO sets didn't make it, but was kinda expected without those Enter keys. I hope Ivan comes up with a solution for that for Round 3.

@ Ivan

Have you considered offering the blue set as US / international (similar to the green Irish set)?

I think this would make it more unique. Otherwise I am afraid it won't hit 20 orders 'cause people already have the olivetti sets from originative / the regular blue PBT sets from IMSTO. With international legends it would be something new for everyone :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: maxmalkav on Sun, 23 June 2013, 06:00:47
@ Ivan

Have you considered offering the blue set as US / international (similar to the green Irish set)?

I think this would make it more unique. Otherwise I am afraid it won't hit 20 orders 'cause people already have the olivetti sets from originative / the regular blue PBT sets from IMSTO. With international legends it would be something new for everyone :)

That would make me order another set :S
:P

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 23 June 2013, 06:26:42

That would make me order another set :S
:P

Yeah, that's the spirit!!

:D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: ilezia on Sun, 23 June 2013, 08:13:01
Resubmitted my order for Red US Ansi. Now everyone, make it happen!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 23 June 2013, 09:11:17
Blue is already halfway to the set MOQ, I think I will leave it alone.

On Irish set I was thinking about making winkey shamrock, just need to get a good looking one.

There is always some argument about which windows logo... can't win. If it wasn't so messy to keep track of I would offer choice. But from first round with the RGB legends choice it seemed to cause much problems so I don't want to go there again.
Maybe I should come up with something generic that works for everyone to replace Windows logo in the future.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 23 June 2013, 09:21:03
Blue is already halfway to the set MOQ, I think I will leave it alone.

But you don't know how many of these orders would prefer the international layout.

I know I would ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 23 June 2013, 09:27:23
Maybe if there is few orders and it is close I will ask those that make an order for it if they would prefer with intl. sublegend or maybe something else that would look interesting like Hebrew, Chinese? I like better busy sets with more than one color when it comes to dyesubs since I feel it should be taken advantage of the ability to have.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 23 June 2013, 09:49:19
As long as you keep the green set plain and more on the teal side!  (Can't make everyone happy :( )
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: maxmalkav on Sun, 23 June 2013, 10:29:35
I prefer anything else instead the win logo, so the shamrock has all my love and support ;)

Signed: a committed GNU/Linux user
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: bardomudo on Sun, 23 June 2013, 12:53:17
Don't know if that's been answered before, sorry if it has.

Has the MOQ for the Black ANSI been reached yet?

Also, are the colored Win95 keys the default now? That's all it's coming with?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: oppz197 on Sun, 23 June 2013, 13:39:20
is there any 87 keys set?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 23 June 2013, 13:43:35
is there any 87 keys set?

No, only full sets in this GB. But the prices are decent. There are 87 key sets that are more expensive.

Just don't use the numpad keys or sell them in the classifieds :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: mauri on Sun, 23 June 2013, 16:23:59
Whats the word on the MOQs on various layouts
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:17:54
Whats the word on the MOQs on various layouts

Earlier in the thread it mentions MOQ 20 per set.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: jwaz on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:25:48
Is there anyway (with enough interest) we could run a blank set specific to HHKB Unix layout for the GH60/ KMAC Happy?


hopefully it would be a little cheaper since it uses so few keys.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:26:47
Is there anyway (with enough interest) we could run a blank set specific to HHKB Unix layout for the GH60/ KMAC Happy?

I kinda doubt they would have the right profile molds for the HHKB layout
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: jwaz on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:28:22
Profiles? all you need is a beige |\ really...




guess there aren't 1.5s either...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:29:30
To be fair, this GB has been ongoing for quite a while now, and I'm afraid with all the changes and new introductions we've had already and extra time it will take to get to MOQs for new stuff, we'll lose some people.  I really want to see this completed, personally, and I hope people realize that all the tweak requests to EXISTING mockups may or may not be beneficial to the Group Buy as a whole (as someone who's already signed up for a set may like it exactly as pictured, and will then come back later to see a change they don't like and cancel).
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: jwaz on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:31:19
This has already been run at least once to completion IIRC... I don't think adding a couple extra keys would be a big deal if it's feasible for the manufacturer.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: maxmalkav on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:31:44
If this R2 happens successfully (I really hope so!), it's likely a R3 with more great PBT dyesub stuff. Maybe then would be the perfect time for a HHK set.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:43:25
Is there anyway (with enough interest) we could run a blank set specific to HHKB Unix layout for the GH60/ KMAC Happy?


hopefully it would be a little cheaper since it uses so few keys.

Profiles? all you need is a beige |\ really...




guess there aren't 1.5s either...

This has already been run at least once to completion IIRC... I don't think adding a couple extra keys would be a big deal if it's feasible for the manufacturer.

Imsto has already ordered  the white/beige sets, so they're already on hand, but more importantly the factory wanted an order for 10,000 beige 1.25x bottom row mods, so I highly doubt a blank beige |\ is going to happen :p

Source - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.msg935043#msg935043
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: jwaz on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:45:28
ermahgerd I'm not asking any of you.

The question is directed at lysol Ivan. I'm not getting my hopes up, I just want a decent set of keys for the GH60 that don't have some garbage qwerty legends and thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

anyway, I doubt it will happen since we still don't have 1.5 mods or short R.Shifts or beige |\ AFAIK...



best bet is just to mix and match a few set and suffer a white |\


EDIT: yeah I wrote that before you posted Jocelyn, but thanks for the link
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:46:34
Yes, and that's exactly why I sourced his post. I thought you may have missed it :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: bsd on Sun, 23 June 2013, 19:58:02
are you able to do a completely white set with black print?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 23 June 2013, 20:00:33
are you able to do a completely white set with black print?

It would have to be added as an option, and it would still have a minimum order quantity of 20 pieces, so unlikely that it will be added.  You can find thick PBT "RGB" sets on the Classifieds and eBay--those are back font on all white, and only Ctrl, Shift, and Alt have colored fonts.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:26:16
Whats the word on the MOQs on various layouts

Earlier in the thread it mentions MOQ 20 per set.

Perhaps I phrased it wrong, which ones are gonna happen?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:39:29
Whats the word on the MOQs on various layouts

Earlier in the thread it mentions MOQ 20 per set.

Perhaps I phrased it wrong, which ones are gonna happen?

Only the ones that reach MOQ :p

And we won't know that until orders are nearly closed.  You can ask Ivan for a progress report though.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: HongKongFui on Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:55:43
I forgot to order German- iso and now the option is gone. Would it change anything if I ordered two sets red on white german iso? Or is this option definitely gone forever?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:59:01
I forgot to order German- iso and now the option is gone. Would it change anything if I ordered two sets red on white german iso? Or is this option definitely gone forever?

You can only order what is in the order form, and unfortunately DE is absent :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: HongKongFui on Mon, 24 June 2013, 06:31:30
Sure. My hope was he maybe gets it back while the option is gone due to not enough orders. Too bad I forgot this. Sent Lysol a pm...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 24 June 2013, 06:33:13
I forgot to order German- iso and now the option is gone. Would it change anything if I ordered two sets red on white german iso? Or is this option definitely gone forever?

No, it wouldn't make a difference. Last time Ivan showed the order numbers the ISO DE sets had 4 orders (incl. mine) so your 2 sets won't bring them to 20 orders.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 24 June 2013, 07:13:54
If it is not in the OP anymore there was not enough interest to keep it going. Everything that is there now set wise is good to go except for the MAC version still need more order... and Scandinavia I guess maybe will not make it unless everyone that ordered it before put their orders back for it.
Any further additions is pretty unlikely at this point. I want to just run with what we have and get it wrapped up and into production. Then I can focus on next GMK buy.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Cafiend on Mon, 24 June 2013, 14:05:26
Ok... order updated for a final time, sorry. Ready  to go!  :llama:



Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:14:41
I ordered a Mac version - if it doesn't make MOQ, I'll change my order to the US ANSI Windows version.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:15:10
This question may have been answered but, does the Miami set have a beige base or is it more of a pure white?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:16:37
This question may have been answered but, does the Miami set have a beige base our is it more of a pure white?

The Miami Limited is on all-white base, but the white itself is kind of a creamy off-white color.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:17:14
This question may have been answered but, does the Miami set have a beige base our is it more of a pure white?

It's the same white/beige tone all the other sets have.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 25 June 2013, 15:35:39
The Miami is same as first round PBT set. Speaking of I still have 3 of US/RU black/red legend left over from last time.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: redskull on Tue, 25 June 2013, 18:31:17
The Miami is same as first round PBT set. Speaking of I still have 3 of US/RU black/red legend left over from last time.
does The Miami had been produced before sir? if so, is there any real-life pictures of it?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Furobins on Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:31:19
Didn't save my initial order form URL, reordered:

1 Black US ANSI
1 Blank white/beige (no legends) ANSI
2 RGB 6 key modifier kit ANSI

Thanks
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:35:15
No it have not been made yet ever. It will be just like previous set, but with legend color in aquamarine/flamingo instead black/red...
(http://i.imgur.com/SNe68pZ.jpg)
photo by guilleguillaume
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:38:09
That Cyrillic set is so beautiful!  If only I weren't already ordering 2 sets from this round :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:45:32
But, next round payment due is a ways away, and you can have one of those Russian sets like right now! I can mail it tomorrow :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:48:24
Yeah, but payments for this GB shouldn't be that far away though, I thought (I hope!!).  I should not be buying 3 expensive sets in a short time :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 26 June 2013, 06:46:53
Ordered again.

 ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: nathairtras on Wed, 26 June 2013, 17:49:07
Finally decided to make a cash sacrifice to my keyboard.  With plenty of time to decide if I want to stick with the basic black ANSI or go with something more... interesting.

If I tell my coworkers that my key caps cost more than my keyboard, they may just decide that I'm crazy.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 June 2013, 19:36:01
Updated OP which sets have green light for production MOQ. MAC, US Green and Scandinavia need about 10 more orders each if they are going to get to production.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 26 June 2013, 19:54:54
Noooo come on, people, order GREEN! :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 27 June 2013, 00:59:48
Updated OP which sets have green light for production MOQ. MAC, US Green and Scandinavia need about 10 more orders each if they are going to get to production.

Nice, all my 4 sets have met MOQ :)

Hopefully next Round will have complete ISO sets. If that's not possible, I think offering ISO base sets like in the SP group buys (alphas, number row) might work. People could combine these with modifier sets they already have.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Grim Fandango on Thu, 27 June 2013, 03:28:42
So are people ordering sets for their looks rather than with the intention of actually making use of the cryllic/hangul/nordic etc? Some of them look fantastic and I am really liking the colors, it is just that I do not speak any languages that use the symbols.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 27 June 2013, 03:31:11
I think it's all for the looks, I mean most of us don't need to look at the keyboard while typing anyway...

Those secondary legends add a nice visual touch in my opinion :)

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: zoolzoo on Thu, 27 June 2013, 05:24:00
Im gonna have to jump on this one.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 27 June 2013, 08:33:01
Yes legends for me are all looks as well. Not even speaking the language never stopped me before from getting a keyset. For those that I do speak, I don't have Russian legended set on my primary keyboard, and with French I don't even bother to change from US layout and just let autocorrect deal with the accent characters... yes I know that is horribly lazy when I even have a proper French azerty keyboard.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Cafiend on Fri, 28 June 2013, 17:12:38
Sadly I still have to look sometimes. So I guess my purchases are justified ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 28 June 2013, 17:50:26
Ivan you have so many options in this GB but wondering why not this:

- R1 x1 blanks
- R4 x1 blanks

someone with 1.5 - 1 -1.5 x7 layout will only need RGB + Esc BSP from Sherry and x7 cherry ABS space bar....
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: asura on Sat, 29 June 2013, 03:02:13
The keys are already made and in sets (or in the numbers for sets) - not made to order as individual keycaps, and the MOQ for new caps is 10,000

Problem is keys availability. imsto only have blue color 1.25 for singles, rest are in full sets which don't want to break up. New order with the factory for single 1.25 is 10,000 key. It's not going to be reasonable.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 29 June 2013, 04:20:22
Maybe I can do B row key singles next time.
MOQs are closer... just a few more order for Mac, Green... Scandinavia not looking good.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: thurst0n on Mon, 01 July 2013, 18:31:59
Quote from: asura link=topic=43328.msg94 5389#msg945389 date=1372492933
The keys are already made and in sets (or in the numbers for sets) - not made to order as individual keycaps, and the MOQ for new caps is 10,000

Problem is keys availability. imsto only have blue color 1.25 for singles, rest are in full sets which don't want to break up. New order with the factory for single 1.25 is 10,000 key. It's not going to be reasonable.

Just a litttttttle bit further...  :confused:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 02 July 2013, 07:02:52
Eight days left all my 4 sets have met MOQ.

Can't wait to put them on my boards :)

Ivan, how long do you think it will be until you get the caps back from IMSTO? 2 months? 3 months?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 02 July 2013, 11:47:12
I won't find out production schedule until I submit the order.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 02 July 2013, 11:58:46
Hopefully not terribly long, since there won't be THAT many sets altogether.  Although I can see various potential issues with all the fancy legend combinations and special symbols, and dual colors.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 02 July 2013, 12:11:07
Hopefully it won't take forever like this GB...

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37360.0
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 02 July 2013, 15:46:09
Previous one didn't took that long, so I assume this would be the same, and imsto is currently doing those alu casing too.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 02 July 2013, 15:56:59
^As well as the ZOMG novelty keys,  which are taking a while,  but it seems like a complicated set.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: JPG on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:21:08
Hey question here: On the mockups, the "beige" looks more like "greyish" to me, and I like it. But it's only a mockup so it's only to give an idea. So I wanted to know if it was possible to get an accurate picture of the base colors for the keycaps (1 beige and 1 white) if possible. Anyone know how this white will be compared to the white on the vortex thick pbt from feng?

Thx in advance for the answer!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:21:43
I hope this to be faster than the last time as I will be getting everything and doing all the shipping. Even though I appreciated all the help imsto gave on the last buy it took too long to finish shipping.

[attachimg=1]
Like this.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Bullveyr on Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:40:51
Finally pulled the trigger on the Irish set, could be beneficial when I move my Filco to the office. :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Halvar on Wed, 03 July 2013, 16:42:40
I'm surprised about the CapsLock keys on the photos being stepped -- what kind of CapsLock will the sets have, center stemmed or Cherry?

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:03:15
I'm surprised about the CapsLock keys on the photos being stepped -- what kind of CapsLock will the sets have, center stemmed or Cherry?

I'd like to know as well.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: gigibecali on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:05:17
I'm surprised about the CapsLock keys on the photos being stepped -- what kind of CapsLock will the sets have, center stemmed or Cherry?



Please read the first lines of the first post.
These sets have them both.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Halvar on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:08:03
Ouch, thanks!   :-[
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:29:13
(http://i.imgur.com/SbISy.gif)

Who is manufacturing these caps? Are these IMSTO/KBC?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:31:15
I am pretty sure that is the case, yes.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 03 July 2013, 22:24:27
Yeah its an imsto production with whatever Chinese factory that makes this **** for us...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 03 July 2013, 22:41:17
Yeah its an imsto production with whatever Chinese factory that makes this **** for us...

Now how in the world did I think these were going to be GMK? :(

DOH!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 03 July 2013, 23:26:38

Yeah its an imsto production with whatever Chinese factory that makes this **** for us...

Now how in the world did I think these were going to be GMK? :(

DOH!

Well there is a BSP set coming out soon and doesn't SP do dyesub PBT?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 03 July 2013, 23:38:56
BSP sets are out--can get them from Sherry.  Quite a bit more expensive, no PBT spacebar, and no numpad yet, I believe.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 03 July 2013, 23:52:22

Yeah its an imsto production with whatever Chinese factory that makes this **** for us...

Now how in the world did I think these were going to be GMK? :(

DOH!

Well there is a BSP set coming out soon and doesn't SP do dyesub PBT?

They do, but it's quite expensive (Nyan cat was SP dyesubbed I think)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 04 July 2013, 03:15:55
I really wish there was a purple set, so we could use it with GMK purple mods, but I realize this isn't going to happen :)

PS - I still need to put my order in.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: JPG on Thu, 04 July 2013, 08:25:55
I suppose it has been answered somewhere in the 1000+ posts, but the cherry keys are top row or bottom row? (row E is escape row right?)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 04 July 2013, 09:03:24
Yes, row E is the "Esc F1-F12" row :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: nonah on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:48:22
Incredibly glad I noticed this GB before it was too late. It looks very promising!

When I placed my order I had some net problems though, so I might've ordered more than once. And if that's the case, it's NOT intentional.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: JPG on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:55:38
OK, loosed up my budget to get this GREEN!

Cant wait to see how it will look on my filco camo!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:58:16
OK, loosed up my budget to get this GREEN!

Cant wait to see how it will look on my filco camo!

Good choice :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Rhinofeed on Thu, 04 July 2013, 20:53:52
Is the green color lettering going to be close the green on the original IBM Model M alt keycap?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 July 2013, 08:28:21
Green more like this SEA GREEN
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 05 July 2013, 08:30:42
If I could give you a hug right now, I would!  So instead I'll send you many virtual hugs... whatever those are worth :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 05 July 2013, 11:11:23
These keys are listed as white/beige.

Does this mean the keys are more of a light beige color.

Will the beige match the beige of one of the beige Filco keyboards?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 05 July 2013, 11:17:50
Here's a photo of IMSTO blank thick PBT sets (should be the same colors, I believe) on a white Filco.  Photo is by Ovoxo (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=28634.msg546391#msg546391):

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Steve41184/2012-03-08_16-48-24_430.jpg)

The white is a bit lighter than the cream-white of the Filco and the beige is darker.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 05 July 2013, 11:53:27
Here's a photo of IMSTO blank thick PBT sets (should be the same colors, I believe) on a white Filco.  Photo is by Ovoxo (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=28634.msg546391#msg546391):

Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Steve41184/2012-03-08_16-48-24_430.jpg)


The white is a bit lighter than the cream-white of the Filco and the beige is darker.

So that's closer to a pure white than a beige based on this picture.

It looks like this key set will be an off white. Like a tinge of beige.

Am I right in that regard?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 05 July 2013, 12:17:07
Yes, IMSTO thick PBT white is a creamy off white color if seen against pure white.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: gbohn on Sun, 07 July 2013, 17:20:00
  Pardon me if this has been asked before, but are the windows keys going to be as shown in the Original Post?

  That is, the "Black - US standard - ANSI" will have multi-color old-style Windows keys, and the "Red - US standard - ANSI" (or green or blue) will have matching single color Windows 8 logos?

  Thanks.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Rhinofeed on Sun, 07 July 2013, 23:25:07
What is the shipping cost going to be?

edit: To Chicago area.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: muad on Mon, 08 July 2013, 02:22:10
Can anyone confirm if the keys will be as white as the 2nd pic in this link?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31861.1830
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Rancid Ska on Mon, 08 July 2013, 18:25:38
I'm in for a miami set!  Assuming they didn't all get swooped up before my last minute order.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 08 July 2013, 18:46:18
Can anyone confirm if the keys will be as white as the 2nd pic in this link?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31861.1830

No, the IMSTO white PBT is an off-white creamy color, not a bright white.  It will appear white, but if you put it against pure white, you'll see that it's a darker off-white. 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: muad on Mon, 08 July 2013, 19:41:58
The reason I ask is because those white caps are from the previous groupbuy IvanIvanovich did... and that picture is very white.

Quote
Quote from: muad on Mon, 08 July 2013, 02:22:10
Can anyone confirm if the keys will be as white as the 2nd pic in this link?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31861.1830

No, the IMSTO white PBT is an off-white creamy color, not a bright white.  It will appear white, but if you put it against pure white, you'll see that it's a darker off-white.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 08 July 2013, 19:58:22
Ambient light, presence or absence of flash, white balance / AI setting in the camera, any postprocessing, and your monitor calibration will all play a role in how accurately colors are represented.   In this case, we're talking about shades of pale offwhite.  IMSTO "white" thick PBT color has been discussed many times.  It's not pure white.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: muad on Mon, 08 July 2013, 20:02:28
ok thanks, then Im in for sure. One more stupid question. The imsto white/beige set from here: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/KBC-White-Gray-Dyesub-Blue-Fonts-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/330911046913?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item4d0bd5dd01&_uhb=1

Im guessing this is pretty close to what we will get except the caps will be the right colour?

thanks
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 08 July 2013, 20:06:26
Im still unclear if IMSTO's light gray and beige are the same mixed color that is referred to by either name.   That's my best guess.  The white caps will be the same, with different legends.

ETA: look at some people's photos (granted, many are too yellow and need to be corrected, but you will get the idea):
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41009.msg817611#msg817611
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31861.msg828728#msg828728

The white caps have some tone to them.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: muad on Mon, 08 July 2013, 20:48:34
awesome and thank you... incase anyone is interested i was inspired by this :)

http://dangwang.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/originative-american/#jp-carousel-670
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 08 July 2013, 22:09:08
That's just lighting--the white won't be that beige.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Rhinofeed on Tue, 09 July 2013, 00:31:12
I placed an order. Is there any way to purchase four blank r4 keys (white)? I have a Ducky DK2108 I'm going to possibly put these on, and it has four additional keys above the keypad for volume adjustment and calculator. Unless there are those keys, which would be really cool but I doubt it.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 09 July 2013, 00:42:02
Get 4 cherry logo keycaps!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: pasph on Tue, 09 July 2013, 07:27:09
Tommorrow is the deadline, Scandinavia - Nordic - ISO hasn't reach the MOQ?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 09 July 2013, 07:43:36
Tommorrow is the deadline, Scandinavia - Nordic - ISO hasn't reach the MOQ?

Very unlikely, due to the missing enter key the ISO sets didn't get much love :(

Nevertheless, I am really looking forward to all the other sets. My wallet is ready for payment day :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:21:16
Scandinavia and Mac options need 5 more set ordered to happen.

Some photo of sets from imsto...
[attachimg=1]
[attachimg=2]
[attachimg=3]
[attachimg=4]
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:32:27
Beautiful!! Thanks for posting those!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: JPG on Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:36:03
So nice, will the "windows" keys be replaced by cherries in all versions?

Would be nice  ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:38:08
So nice, will the "windows" keys be replaced by cherries in all versions?

Would be nice  ;D

Only those that have Cherry logo in the mockups and the Irish set, I think.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:10:25
Scandinavia and Mac options need 5 more set ordered to happen.

Some photo of sets from imsto...
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Wow! So IMSTO already made the sets that reached MOQ?!?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:20:49
Probably just made the sample set. Not really sure, just got email with the pictures.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:53:01
If you get more photos please don't post them!

Seeing how awesome those sets look in real life makes the waiting time so much harder ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:58:06
If you get more photos please don't post them!
FTFY  ;D ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 09 July 2013, 12:10:42
If you get more photos please don't post them!
FTFY  ;D ;D


Nnnnoooooooooo!  :p :p :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: asura on Tue, 09 July 2013, 12:14:09
Ivan, if Scandinavian doesn't meet moq ( :() then could you shift me over to Ural, or should I re-watsit the thingimy-bob?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: gbohn on Tue, 09 July 2013, 12:58:01
  Pardon me if this has been asked before, but are the windows keys going to be as shown in the Original Post?

  That is, the "Black - US standard - ANSI" will have multi-color old-style Windows keys, and the "Red - US standard - ANSI" (or green or blue) will have matching single color Windows 8 logos?

  Thanks.

  So, is the answer unknown then (as to what the 'Windows' keys will look like)?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 09 July 2013, 12:59:55
  Pardon me if this has been asked before, but are the windows keys going to be as shown in the Original Post?

  That is, the "Black - US standard - ANSI" will have multi-color old-style Windows keys, and the "Red - US standard - ANSI" (or green or blue) will have matching single color Windows 8 logos?

  Thanks.

  So, is the answer unknown then (as to what the 'Windows' keys will look like)?


Just look at the sketches in the OP--that's how the sets are being made.  The Irish set had a blank key for the winkey, so the green Cherry went there instead.
edit: messed up formatting.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 09 July 2013, 13:56:14
Winkeys are like in the OP, with Irish have the Cherry in matching like Ural which was not shown prior.

For those with orders of sets if they don't meet MOQ I will contact to ask if they want to change or cancel after 11 July once invoicing start.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 09 July 2013, 19:06:06
I think I was amongst the first to place an order of the orange/charcoal and RGB, but then I joined Trikx and descided on the 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 x7 layout, and that killed this GB for me, sorry for dropping off the list Lysol but that's why I will try my best to support your GMK GB's.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: Rhinofeed on Tue, 09 July 2013, 19:45:51
Maaaan, I'm sorry. I thought I copied the link after I placed my order the first time, but when I load the link, it turns out it's a blank form with the same URL you posted in this thread.

Making a new order with some additions.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 10 July 2013, 09:35:48
Last day for ordering.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: JPG on Wed, 10 July 2013, 09:38:23
Hey Ivan, since the Irish set has the cherry logo instead of the Windows key, would it be possible to order this key as extra (or as part of the green set?)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: JizzGus on Wed, 10 July 2013, 21:26:04
Placed an order for a Blue US ANSI, and Red US ANSI
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: meeekus on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:26:08
Just ordered, and I hope it wasn't too late
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: whiteduck on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:55:40
lysol just sent you a pm with question.  thx!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders close 10 Jul.)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 11 July 2013, 08:52:00
Looking forward to throw my money at you :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders closed)
Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:27:53
Crap, just missed this. :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders closed)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 12 July 2013, 02:49:14
Crap, just missed this. :(

PM Ivan! He hasn't sent out invoices yet, which means the order wasn't placed yet.

There is no reason you couldn't join last minute :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders closed)
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 12 July 2013, 03:54:31
And for the sets that did not reach MOQ, Ivan said he would give those who ordered them a chance to change their order to something else - so final numbers might not quite be in yet.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders closed)
Post by: Bencze on Sat, 13 July 2013, 05:13:59
I think I ordered a standard (black, ansi, first option) set from my phone (traveling) on Monday but not sure. Can you confirm or tell me how to check? Phone is phone, I am not sure what I did...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders closed)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 13 July 2013, 11:33:57
Bencze, I show you order black US and an RGB.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (orders closed)
Post by: Bencze on Sat, 13 July 2013, 12:27:54
Right, thank you, I like the base set as it is but  guess I thought an RGB set is always good to have! :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing)
Post by: JPG on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:56:47
Got my invoice, paid, can't wait now!  :p :p :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 15 July 2013, 14:08:05
Paid, thank you!!! Looking forward to the caps :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 15 July 2013, 14:10:02
invoiced recieved. paycheck soon  :-*
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing)
Post by: Kayliss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 14:20:00
Paid. Thanks  :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 15 July 2013, 14:51:23
Paid. Thank you for another awesome GB :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing)
Post by: Furobins on Mon, 15 July 2013, 15:02:21
Payment sent.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 15 July 2013, 15:05:37
Paid!

Thanks!

I knew this would happen - all the GBs I am in are invoicing at the same time sigh.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 15 July 2013, 15:08:11
Invoicing complete. Please pay the invoice by 29th July to keep delays to minimum. Thanks.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 15 July 2013, 16:51:35
Invoice paid
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: ilezia on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:00:36
Paid! Thanks for organising this
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: asura on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:30:38
No invoice received (e-mail or paypal) - thought I had myself down for the Scandinavian set; was/am willing to take Ural as an alternate, if it's too much trouble don't worry about it.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: whiteduck on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:31:27
 paid <3
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: cgbuen on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:54:11
I haven't received mine either - 1 set of US ANSI Black.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: meeekus on Mon, 15 July 2013, 18:23:21
Paid. thanks ivan
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: eyesmiles on Mon, 15 July 2013, 18:47:03
No invoice as well. I checked both email and PayPal account. I guess I didn't make it on the Miami ltd.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: TestostoBoost on Mon, 15 July 2013, 19:16:18
Paid. Thank you sir!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing)
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 15 July 2013, 20:59:15
Invoicing complete. Please pay the invoice by 29th July to keep delays to minimum. Thanks.

Got my invoice, I'll pay up by the 26th.

Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 15 July 2013, 21:00:08
Paid!  Thanks for organizing, Ivan!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Cafiend on Mon, 15 July 2013, 21:51:55
No invoice?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: ___q on Mon, 15 July 2013, 22:16:22
Paid!

The question now is -- what will arrive first, my Miami ltd. or my purple GON board...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Bullveyr on Tue, 16 July 2013, 03:29:28
No invoice?

same here
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 16 July 2013, 04:00:36
Got the invoice but I will pay as soon as I get my money. Should be well before the 29th.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: would on Tue, 16 July 2013, 05:33:44
Paid as soon as I saw the invoice. Looking forward to receiving the set. :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: affect656 on Tue, 16 July 2013, 05:55:40
Invoice received and paid. Thanks Ivan
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 16 July 2013, 06:31:45
Paid
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Bullveyr on Tue, 16 July 2013, 08:46:25
Paid
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: bnp70kr on Tue, 16 July 2013, 10:02:58
paid up!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: gigibecali on Tue, 16 July 2013, 12:11:54
Paid.

Please remember to mark the package as a gift or pick a very low value (15-20$).
Customs will kill me otherwise.

Thank you for organizing this.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 July 2013, 13:35:37
Yes I mark this as default unless directed otherwise for international order.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Cafiend on Tue, 16 July 2013, 16:13:57
Got it. Thanks man!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: longweight on Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:30:12
have all of the invoices gone out?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 July 2013, 13:07:39
Yes everyone that had a recorded order has invoice sent. If you are 100% you ordered and do not have one, and have checked in paypal too as to make sure it really doesn't exist then PM me with your email, name, mailing address and what you wanted. There was some issues a few times with the ordering sheets so I can still enter in some orders on a case by case basis up to the 29th.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: asura on Thu, 18 July 2013, 15:26:56
Aaaaaaaaand, you're done.

Nice little invoice logo you've got going there  ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: muad on Fri, 19 July 2013, 16:43:25
I ordered and paid for the blank keycaps to be used with my poker ii. Now that my poker II arrived I have decided that 60% keyboards are not for me. If anyone wants to take over my order shoot me a pm.

thanks

EDIT: Order has been sold!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: JizzGus on Fri, 19 July 2013, 22:48:11
invoice paid, can't wait to receive the keycaps
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: insilica on Mon, 22 July 2013, 06:47:58
I ordered and paid for the blank keycaps to be used with my poker ii. Now that my poker II arrived I have decided that 60% keyboards are not for me. If anyone wants to take over my order shoot me a pm.

thanks

Blank set: $55?

I will be happy to take over :) YGPM
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Rancid Ska on Thu, 25 July 2013, 09:14:27
Paid up and good to go.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 25 July 2013, 09:29:11
Funds finally transferred into my paypal account so... paid! :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 25 July 2013, 11:36:06
Funds finally transferred into my paypal account so... paid! :D


You know you don't have to wait for funds to transfer into your bank account? Paypal automatically pulls the funds from your bank account if it doesn't have enough Paypal balance at the time to pay.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 25 July 2013, 11:44:54
I know. But it doesn't always work. I had a paypal payment bounce a while ago because... well I was poor at the time and had insufficient funds in my bank account. But that automatically means Paypal will be a little less lenient when paying for a couple of months. And transferring it myself only takes a day while having paypal pull it would mean I would have to wait 4-6 days, meaning I would miss the deadline.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: insilica on Thu, 25 July 2013, 14:07:00
I know. But it doesn't always work. I had a paypal payment bounce a while ago because... well I was poor at the time and had insufficient funds in my bank account. But that automatically means Paypal will be a little less lenient when paying for a couple of months. And transferring it myself only takes a day while having paypal pull it would mean I would have to wait 4-6 days, meaning I would miss the deadline.

TBH I only ever use my credit card with paypal and for this reason I never have to worry about insufficient funds. Whenever I sell stuff I keep the funds in paypal so that I can buy other stuff.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 26 July 2013, 04:40:29
I know. But it doesn't always work. I had a paypal payment bounce a while ago because... well I was poor at the time and had insufficient funds in my bank account. But that automatically means Paypal will be a little less lenient when paying for a couple of months. And transferring it myself only takes a day while having paypal pull it would mean I would have to wait 4-6 days, meaning I would miss the deadline.
TBH I only ever use my credit card with paypal and for this reason I never have to worry about insufficient funds. Whenever I sell stuff I keep the funds in paypal so that I can buy other stuff.
Fair enough. I'm from a country where credit cards are pretty rare. They are slower, more expensive and less reliable than debit cards so hardly anyone actually uses them.
So my paypal is connected to my bank account and I only need to use it once in a while.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: redskull on Fri, 26 July 2013, 10:19:29
Ivan,

for those that missed this GB,  can you please ask Imsto will there be any extra sets later available on his taobao online shop? thanks.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 26 July 2013, 10:22:11
Ivan,

for those that missed this GB,  can you please ask Imsto will there be any extra sets later available on his taobao online shop? thanks.

If you really want to place an order, I'd PM IvanIvanovich, as he said it might still be possible to get people in on individual basis.  Payment deadline is July 29th, so a few days left until then.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: redskull on Fri, 26 July 2013, 10:46:01
Ivan,

for those that missed this GB,  can you please ask Imsto will there be any extra sets later available on his taobao online shop? thanks.

If you really want to place an order, I'd PM IvanIvanovich, as he said it might still be possible to get people in on individual basis.  Payment deadline is July 29th, so a few days left until then.
ok thanks!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 26 July 2013, 11:18:02
Paid. 

 ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Cafiend on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:53:27
 :llama:

does the lama mean excited or kicking things into production?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Rhinofeed on Sat, 27 July 2013, 21:41:05
Two more days to get payments ready. I can't wait until these arrive at my doorstep!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 28 July 2013, 08:33:03
Please don't forget to pay your order, or it will be cancelled.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: rindorbrot on Sun, 28 July 2013, 13:12:54
How many payments are missing?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: berrymxblue on Sun, 28 July 2013, 16:17:12
I would gladly take over someone's blank keycaps order if someone is having second thoughts. :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 28 July 2013, 16:46:10
15 orders still outstanding. If anything ends up being short to production moq I will call for them to be picked up on Tuesday so I don't have to make a bunch more cancellations or substitutions.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: redskull on Sun, 28 July 2013, 19:08:28
15 orders still outstanding. If anything ends up being short to production moq I will call for them to be picked up on Tuesday so I don't have to make a bunch more cancellations or substitutions.
Hi Ivan,

any outstanding orders for the miami set?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 28 July 2013, 19:19:47
15 orders still outstanding. If anything ends up being short to production moq I will call for them to be picked up on Tuesday so I don't have to make a bunch more cancellations or substitutions.
Hi Ivan,

any outstanding orders for the miami set?

BunnyLake is handling the Miami GB in this thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46057.0
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 28 July 2013, 19:24:20
15 orders still outstanding. If anything ends up being short to production moq I will call for them to be picked up on Tuesday so I don't have to make a bunch more cancellations or substitutions.
Hi Ivan,

any outstanding orders for the miami set?

BunnyLake is handling the Miami GB in this thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46057.0

There is also a Miami set in this group buy also ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 28 July 2013, 19:25:31
15 orders still outstanding. If anything ends up being short to production moq I will call for them to be picked up on Tuesday so I don't have to make a bunch more cancellations or substitutions.
Hi Ivan,

any outstanding orders for the miami set?

BunnyLake is handling the Miami GB in this thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46057.0

There is also a Miami set in this group buy also ;)

Oooh aaah yes, sorry, forgot about that! :-[
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 28 July 2013, 20:38:01
I came up with Miami as a colorway concept in the first place...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 28 July 2013, 20:39:42
The Green set better not be in danger :)  But especially Ural! Let us know if we need to make any changes due to non-paying people!  I could probably swap to Blue or Red if needed.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: meeekus on Mon, 29 July 2013, 10:54:19
I'll take over a blank if that does not meet moq. Just let me know
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 10:56:49
I'll take over a blank if that does not meet moq. Just let me know

Love that avatar...it's almost like looking in the mirror.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: jameslr on Mon, 29 July 2013, 19:08:15
I'll take a two-tone set if there are still unpaid orders open. I need ANSI with black printing. Have Paypal ready.

Edit: I will take any lettering color or blank though if need be. I just want set of PBT caps for this QFR!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: terminal_geek on Mon, 29 July 2013, 21:06:24
Finally paid. Sorry about waiting until the last minute.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:32:50
Need the following picked up so these sets can have moq again:
1 red
2 green
Please PM me with your email, real name and mailing address if you want to pick any of those up. You need to be able to make payment today if so.
Thanks.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: JPG on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:37:52
OMG people get these GREEN's!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:40:22
OMG people get these GREEN's!!!

I already have one on order, I'll check back later to see if anyone takes the one on offer.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:53:26
Oh, that is kind of ambiguous... it's actually needed 2 qty set for green, not simply a list.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: LONGZILLA on Tue, 30 July 2013, 11:17:14
Thanks for organizing this one Ivan.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: ilezia on Tue, 30 July 2013, 12:13:34
Someone, please buy that red set, don't let this slip!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: meeekus on Tue, 30 July 2013, 12:17:34
Just out of curiosity, if they don't meet MOQ are you cancelling all the orders for the color?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 30 July 2013, 22:02:49
Need the following picked up so these sets can have moq again:
1 red
2 green
Please PM me with your email, real name and mailing address if you want to pick any of those up. You need to be able to make payment today if so.
Thanks.

Did anyone pick up on the red out greens, yet?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: ninjadoc on Wed, 31 July 2013, 05:27:48
Need the following picked up so these sets can have moq again:
1 red
2 green
Please PM me with your email, real name and mailing address if you want to pick any of those up. You need to be able to make payment today if so.
Thanks.

Did anyone pick up on the red out greens, yet?

I tried to pick up a red set and offerred a green if he needed it to get MOQ, didn't hear from Ivan so ......
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Furobins on Fri, 02 August 2013, 00:09:03
Any update on this?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 02 August 2013, 09:34:39
Everything is fine. Our order is finalized. Just waiting to hear the timetable on production and I will let you all know.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: gigibecali on Fri, 02 August 2013, 10:20:52
Everything is fine. Our order is finalized. Just waiting to hear the timetable on production and I will let you all know.

Perfect. Thank you Ivan.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: insilica on Fri, 02 August 2013, 10:34:00
Everything is fine. Our order is finalized. Just waiting to hear the timetable on production and I will let you all know.

Woohoo, Thx Ivan.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (invoicing payment due 29 July)
Post by: Furobins on Fri, 02 August 2013, 10:50:18
Everything is fine. Our order is finalized. Just waiting to hear the timetable on production and I will let you all know.

Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: LONGZILLA on Fri, 02 August 2013, 11:28:11
Appreciate the update Ivan
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: audukent on Thu, 08 August 2013, 21:06:32
I would take a Green - US standard if there are any left.  Please let me know!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: twitch772 on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:34:57
too late to get involved in this?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Grimfire on Fri, 09 August 2013, 22:24:49
If there happens to be a blue set please PM me. (Sorry I saw this way super late).
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 August 2013, 03:07:16
I'm sure once these come in there will be extras for sale in the classifieds from people who bought extra or what to get rid of them for whatever reason.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 12 August 2013, 08:33:39
I have none extra available. Ordering is closed it's already in production.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 12 August 2013, 08:51:22
Do we have any sort of timeline yet? I know it's still very early in the production phase, so I understand if not.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 12 August 2013, 09:26:13
No I still haven't gotten a reply on that from imsto yet.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 12 August 2013, 09:30:40
Cool. Thanks for running all these awesome GBs back to back, lysol. You have all of my appreciation.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:19:35
Yeah, appreciate the prompt updates.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: muad on Wed, 14 August 2013, 00:45:39
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Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: twitch772 on Wed, 14 August 2013, 17:39:47
Anyone here wanting to sell russian keycaps for cherry mx switch please send me a PM
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: redskull on Mon, 19 August 2013, 04:57:29
hi guys,

i know im late for the party, but if anyone wanting to sell the Miami Odessa Mix set, please pm me. thanks alot!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 August 2013, 05:21:02
hi guys,

i know im late for the party, but if anyone wanting to sell the Miami Odessa Mix set, please pm me. thanks alot!

You're dreamin'!

I don't think anyone who managed to order that would let it go quickly ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: redskull on Mon, 19 August 2013, 05:38:58
hi guys,

i know im late for the party, but if anyone wanting to sell the Miami Odessa Mix set, please pm me. thanks alot!

You're dreamin'!

I don't think anyone who managed to order that would let it go quickly ;)
one can only dream sir...  :))
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 August 2013, 05:41:42
hi guys,

i know im late for the party, but if anyone wanting to sell the Miami Odessa Mix set, please pm me. thanks alot!

You're dreamin'!

I don't think anyone who managed to order that would let it go quickly ;)
one can only dream sir...  :))

Indeed!

But hold on to the though - keep this as a long term goal.  Set yourself a maximum budget and start saving toward it.

Because chances are that one day a set will turn up in Classifieds, and you want to be ready when it does!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: redskull on Mon, 19 August 2013, 06:03:56
hi guys,

i know im late for the party, but if anyone wanting to sell the Miami Odessa Mix set, please pm me. thanks alot!

You're dreamin'!

I don't think anyone who managed to order that would let it go quickly ;)
one can only dream sir...  :))

Indeed!

But hold on to the though - keep this as a long term goal.  Set yourself a maximum budget and start saving toward it.

Because chances are that one day a set will turn up in Classifieds, and you want to be ready when it does!
ive already set aside the cash for it now actually. in the mean time, gonna blow some on the cherry with red russian font.  :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: audukent on Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:53:00
If anyone ordered a 'Green US Standard' and would like me to take over the order or would be willing to sell. Let me know! :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 20 August 2013, 20:22:06
This might have been answered but, what are the two colors used in the Miami Odessa mix key set?

I want to say it's a light blue and pink. It may be more of a turquoise and a hot pink. Am I close?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 August 2013, 20:40:32
It may be more of a turquoise and a hot pink. Am I close?

Bingo.  I don't know the exact color codes, but it's basically awesome.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: noobandroid on Wed, 21 August 2013, 00:31:57
i kinda regret cancelling this order
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 21 August 2013, 00:37:49
Looking forward to seeing photos of all the sets :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 August 2013, 00:46:59
Looking forward to receiving my set :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 00:50:25
Looking forward to seeing photos of all the sets :)

I'm curious too see what the extra cherry keys looks like.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: insilica on Wed, 21 August 2013, 02:44:02
Looking forward to receiving my set :)

Little early for that no? ;).

Looking forward to seeing some pictures.

I had this group by in my calender but was very busy with various project so ended up snapping up a blank (which is what I was after) / just before invoice deadline :)

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Halvar on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:08:37
Looking forward to receiving my set :)

Little early for that no? ;).
Too early? I'm looking forward to my retirement in like 25 years ...  ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:21:23
Looking forward to receiving my set :)

Little early for that no? ;).
Too early? I'm looking forward to my retirement in like 25 years ...  ;)

I got a smile out of this! ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 August 2013, 04:10:25
Looking forward to receiving my set :)

Little early for that no? ;).

Looking forward to seeing some pictures.

I had this group by in my calender but was very busy with various project so ended up snapping up a blank (which is what I was after) / just before invoice deadline :)



Nope :)

Pictures are nice, but I want to see it in real life on one of my keyboards ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: redskull on Thu, 05 September 2013, 08:32:48
Ivan, any news on these yet sir?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 05 September 2013, 09:50:00
I'm hoping that 100F+ heatwave that affected IMSTO's factory's dye sub process for other caps did not affect this GB too much :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 05 September 2013, 10:06:01
I still have never gotten any specific time estimate on production finish. As soon as I know anything I will post about it.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 17 September 2013, 12:52:36
Got word from imsto, should be another ~3 weeks for production.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:04:58
Sounds good - 3 weeks isn't much in Geekhack time ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:12:49
Got word from imsto, should be another ~3 weeks for production.

Till production ends? Or is that when production begins?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: meeekus on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:19:37
Got word from imsto, should be another ~3 weeks for production.

Till production ends? Or is that when production begins?

Ends.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: nathairtras on Fri, 20 September 2013, 14:39:01
Three more weeks for production, might be here in time to make a great Christmas gift to myself!  ;D

Can't wait to ditch the stock keycaps on my QFR.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: TestostoBoost on Fri, 20 September 2013, 23:29:49
These will be awesome for sure.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 20 September 2013, 23:37:36
Damn I wish I could have gotten in on these  :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 21 September 2013, 07:58:44
Keep your eyes peeled in the classifieds after they are shipped. There is almost always someone that sells the stuff the day after it arrives :)) Otherwise there is always next time.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 21 September 2013, 17:16:14
Keep your eyes peeled in the classifieds after they are shipped. There is almost always someone that sells the stuff the day after it arrives :)) Otherwise there is always next time.

I would like to go ahead and say If anyone has an extra set or wants to get rid of one of the - Top sets with the old school windows logo, A BLUE set, or the Blue, Green, or Brown cherry caps PLEASE let me know.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: turtle on Sat, 21 September 2013, 23:13:09
If anyone or ordered a blanked set and wants to let it go please shoot me a pm. I missed out :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: would on Sun, 22 September 2013, 04:37:45
Got word from imsto, should be another ~3 weeks for production.

Awesome. I'll have the chance to bring my own keyboard to work in a few weeks, and this timing would be perfect. :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: kennyk64 on Mon, 30 September 2013, 00:10:49
If anyone have an extra black set let it go please shoot me a pm. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 30 September 2013, 00:31:25
Should be on their way to me really soon now.
(http://i.imgur.com/8iBdLA7.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YepWe7K.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 30 September 2013, 00:35:01
Cool--thanks for the update!!

after some color-correcting...

(http://i.imgur.com/K7IIXlg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZqvAyKI.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: YongJK on Mon, 30 September 2013, 01:10:14

Cool--thanks for the update!!

after some color-correcting...

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/K7IIXlg.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZqvAyKI.jpg)

This looks much more better!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 30 September 2013, 04:17:08
Should be on their way to me really soon now.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8iBdLA7.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YepWe7K.jpg)


So much beauty!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: insilica on Mon, 30 September 2013, 05:20:17
Very nice.

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 30 September 2013, 06:18:03
Oh boy, these teaser pics look so good!

Let's hope we all get our sets in November :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 30 September 2013, 13:59:04
Would anyone be interested in trading their Black US ANSI set for a different one from this group buy?  If so, please send me a PM.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: muad on Tue, 01 October 2013, 10:35:43
Looking to sell a set of blanks if anyone is interested, and pick up a set of rgb mods from this buy.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: ruckyzomg on Thu, 03 October 2013, 23:19:40
If anyone is looking to unload their Miami (Odessa Mix) Limited set, i'd be more than happy to pick it up  :-X
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: acidtrip69 on Fri, 04 October 2013, 00:16:34
Can you do or get a ALL White keycap set with blue lettering ? cuz thats what i want
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 04 October 2013, 00:19:11
Feng has those sets on eBay (all white with blue legends).
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: acidtrip69 on Fri, 04 October 2013, 00:31:18
Feng has those sets on eBay (all white with blue legends).
link please ? would be a hlep
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 04 October 2013, 00:38:04
Feng has those sets on eBay (all white with blue legends).
link please ? would be a hlep

PM'd with links.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 04 October 2013, 04:48:06
If anyone is looking to unload their Miami (Odessa Mix) Limited set, i'd be more than happy to pick it up  :-X

PMed
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Michael on Tue, 08 October 2013, 14:19:31
Can you please run this GB next, Ivan  8)


(http://i.imgur.com/3B925IB.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 14:52:25
Can you please run this GB next, Ivan  8)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3B925IB.jpg)


That's cool!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 08 October 2013, 15:16:37
I'm so sad about the blue on the Miami set. I really hope it's more cyan than that light blue color...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 08 October 2013, 15:17:46
Are you sure it's not your monitor?  It looks faded light turquoise for me, which is already more green than cyan.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 08 October 2013, 15:21:36
Yeah, it could be. This laptop monitor isn't the greatest. Pulled up the picture on my phone, and I do agree with you on the color choice of words. That being said, still sad about the color...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 08 October 2013, 15:24:10
It could be a bad picture too.  It looks like a phone camera photo to me.  I'd wait until the sets arrive to IvanIvanovich and maybe we'll have better photos ;)  I think the original intent was turquoise + pink, not cyan + pink. 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 08 October 2013, 15:24:37
More like lies + pink...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 08 October 2013, 18:40:17
It was a bad photo... color given was #0ee5d4 I think the extreme pink makes it look paler than it really is against the white.
(http://www.colorhexa.com/0ee5d4.png)

Arabic is a no go like those, can't do side printing. Only possible with BSP and would need I think 300 of same set to get them made. Otherwise if someone else wants to trace out the Arabic be my guest and I will run it. I don't have the patience to do those and can't find any font that looks like that one.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 08 October 2013, 18:56:54
More like lies + pink...

If you want to trade your set for the Green set, I might be interested  ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 09 October 2013, 05:20:18
It was a bad photo... color given was #0ee5d4 I think the extreme pink makes it look paler than it really is against the white.
Show Image
(http://www.colorhexa.com/0ee5d4.png)


Arabic is a no go like those, can't do side printing. Only possible with BSP and would need I think 300 of same set to get them made. Otherwise if someone else wants to trace out the Arabic be my guest and I will run it. I don't have the patience to do those and can't find any font that looks like that one.

So what about the pink?

Is it a neon pink? As in, lighter than regular pink.

Or, is it hot pink? As in, darker than regular pink.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 09 October 2013, 09:43:30
The pink is fairly accurate. It's very neon flamingo.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 09 October 2013, 09:50:30
I will withhold judgment until picture day. If it's closer to that blue, then I will be much happier!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: insilica on Wed, 09 October 2013, 10:35:30
Can you please run this GB next, Ivan  8)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3B925IB.jpg)


Awesome, would be in for one too. Out of curiosity is it Farsi or Arabic ?

Edit: my bad, I see it was answered here:

It was a bad photo... color given was #0ee5d4 I think the extreme pink makes it look paler than it really is against the white.
Show Image
(http://www.colorhexa.com/0ee5d4.png)


Arabic is a no go like those, can't do side printing. Only possible with BSP and would need I think 300 of same set to get them made. Otherwise if someone else wants to trace out the Arabic be my guest and I will run it. I don't have the patience to do those and can't find any font that looks like that one.

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 10 October 2013, 01:08:45
Edit: nevermind :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 10 October 2013, 17:19:01
Ivan, I am guessing the earlier pictures you showed us are from GMK? How white are the keys? I am contemplating on buying another board for this set and I have a choice of white case, grey or black. :P
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 10 October 2013, 17:41:18
They are a bit brighter than Cherry, but they are not pure white they do have a touch of grey to them. In my opinion they look good against white, grey, black and most any other color.
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01786_zps9a0a4d0a.jpg~original)
Blanks set from the last groupbuy.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 10 October 2013, 17:54:44
Hmmm. The board I am looking at (Leopold FC600M) is really pure white, but I think those will look really nice. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 11 October 2013, 01:13:48
Hmmm. The board I am looking at (Leopold FC600M) is really pure white, but I think those will look really nice. Thanks. :)

Keep in mind that the spacebar and the right shift won't fit on a FC660M! Just a little heads up if you were not aware of this :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 11 October 2013, 03:38:47
Hmmm. The board I am looking at (Leopold FC600M) is really pure white, but I think those will look really nice. Thanks. :)
Keep in mind that the spacebar and the right shift won't fit on a FC660M! Just a little heads up if you were not aware of this :)
Thanks. I already knew and I have something on the way that might solve that little problem. The 2-unit right shift... well that's just another chance to customize, right? :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: insilica on Fri, 11 October 2013, 04:57:04
They are a bit brighter than Cherry, but they are not pure white they do have a touch of grey to them. In my opinion they look good against white, grey, black and most any other color.
Show Image
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01786_zps9a0a4d0a.jpg~original)

Blanks set from the last groupbuy.

If the blanks from this groubbuy look the same I will be chuffed!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 11 October 2013, 11:28:03
White keys should be the same shade.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 12 October 2013, 10:49:31
Production is finished. Sets are in transit to me. I expect to have them shortly and will begin sending your individual orders real soon.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 10:52:40
Production is finished. Sets are in transit to me. I expect to have them shortly and will begin sending your individual orders real soon.

Yissss! :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Bullveyr on Sat, 12 October 2013, 10:54:11
:):):)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: insilica on Sat, 12 October 2013, 15:26:48
Production is finished. Sets are in transit to me. I expect to have them shortly and will begin sending your individual orders real soon.

Ahhhh yeaaaaa ;).

Thx Ivan.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: JPG on Sat, 12 October 2013, 16:35:07
Great success!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 18:24:41
I'd nearly forgotten about this.  If you hadn't said anything I would have had a nice surprise in a few weeks.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: xFuz on Sun, 13 October 2013, 11:48:28
Are these the same as the ones Feng has on eBay?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: meeekus on Sun, 13 October 2013, 11:59:14
Are these the same as the ones Feng has on eBay?
They look pretty similar, but there are slight differences in the sets.

This blue is lighter than his, the black set on feng's doesn't have grey mods, etc.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 13 October 2013, 12:24:02
Some of the sets feng has for sale are from my previous groupbuy with all white keys. They also have some other sets on same keycap with different font and etc.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 16 October 2013, 15:46:07
I'll take over anyone's RGB order or any spares if there are any. 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: JPG on Fri, 25 October 2013, 08:44:07
Any news on the delivery?

My fingers can't wait to get pbt at job  :cool:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 25 October 2013, 09:27:41
I'm still waiting for them to arrive to me. Shipment will probably be with me in a few more days.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 25 October 2013, 09:39:15
I'd asked IMSTO for more photos before he sent out the sets, which he said he'd do, but then never did :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: eyesmiles on Fri, 25 October 2013, 14:22:04
That one and the orange/charcoal sets were already posted here on page 22  :thumb:

It's been awhile since I've looked at this thread ^-^ Thank you photo :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 25 October 2013, 14:23:03
That one and the orange/charcoal sets were already posted here on page 22  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 25 October 2013, 19:29:54
I keep forgetting I ordered a set of these.

With my memory, this is going to be a nice surprise when they arrive :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 26 October 2013, 02:39:06
That one and the orange/charcoal sets were already posted here on page 22  :thumb:

It's been awhile since I've looked at this thread ^-^ Thank you photo :thumb:

I hope these are not the real sets and IMSTO only mixed up the regular green set with the Irish set on these pics.

By the way, was a stepped capslock key included in this GB? I guess not right?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 26 October 2013, 09:03:01
Yes set have both style caps lock. I wouldn't make any judgement about the colors from photos that don't seem to have any proper color calibration.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Tue, 29 October 2013, 13:44:02
Hmmm. The board I am looking at (Leopold FC600M) is really pure white, but I think those will look really nice. Thanks. :)
Keep in mind that the spacebar and the right shift won't fit on a FC660M! Just a little heads up if you were not aware of this :)
Thanks. I already knew and I have something on the way that might solve that little problem. The 2-unit right shift... well that's just another chance to customize, right? :D
Will these spacebars work on a Leopold FC200RT? I hadn't planned on them fitting but I'm not certain either way.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (in production)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 29 October 2013, 13:54:31
No the spacebar is not Leopold compatible. Only compatible for standard and Cherry G80 mounting.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: tobr1an on Tue, 29 October 2013, 20:58:55
Yeee! Can't wait!@
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: separus on Tue, 29 October 2013, 21:03:51
Do you have any extra kits Ivan?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 29 October 2013, 21:23:40
Woo we need some photos :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 30 October 2013, 00:04:40
Anyone looking to get rid of a Black ANSI standard set before Ivan ships them shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 30 October 2013, 08:58:40
Orders are about 50% packed. Packed orders will ship today.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: JPG on Wed, 30 October 2013, 09:08:06
Very good news!

thx for the great work Ivan!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: gigibecali on Wed, 30 October 2013, 09:38:39
Ivan, will you mark international orders as "gift" value or put a low number?
I will have to answer that to customs :)

Thank you.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 30 October 2013, 10:03:02
Yes I always do that for international order unless buyer want insurance.

I have extra of nothing full set.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: meeekus on Wed, 30 October 2013, 10:14:19
Yes I always do that for international order unless buyer want insurance.

I have extra of nothing full set.

You mean blank?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: rindorbrot on Wed, 30 October 2013, 13:59:23
Will you post photos of all sets before you pack them all up?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: would on Thu, 31 October 2013, 03:45:43
Yes I always do that for international order unless buyer want insurance.

I have extra of nothing full set.

I am tempted to take it, but as I already have one set of blanks coming, I'll let others have the opportunity. :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:06:48
I was reply to separus, as in there is nothing available.

Sorry guys, pics probably won't happen as I wasn't able to borrow a digital camera and am not in mood to be developing film and scanning negatives.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: JPG on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:11:00
There will be plenty of potato pics in the "what did you get in the mail" soon after people start receiving their set!

And it adds to the surprise for all of us waiting  ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: insilica on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:47:35
OMG.

Awesome news.

Something tells me by the time my order arrives to the U.K. other members will have plastered photos of the caps mounted on their keyboards :D.

Thx Ivan
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:02:59
Maybe--I just had a package get to the U.K. from the U.S. in exactly 1 week, including delivery!  That was just regular 1st class international mail.  You could be lucky :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:14:49
Yeah, I imagine some people will have them by Monday or maybe even sooner.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: eyesmiles on Thu, 31 October 2013, 20:40:21
(http://imageshack.us/a/img833/7982/u5zl.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/eojy.jpg/)
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/613/eojy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/eojy.jpg/)

Miami arrived today. I totally wasn't expecting it. Blue is a tad bit lighter than expected, but a sexy set nonetheless. I think it's by far my favorite dyesub set over my hangul one. Thank you again Ivan :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: chocobunny on Thu, 31 October 2013, 21:06:49
I should invest in a decent camera.
(http://i.imgur.com/zOYRc4Q.jpg)
Was the fulltouch caps lock supposed to be beige?  I ended up getting a beige stepped caps lock and a white fulltouch.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 31 October 2013, 21:18:50
Show Image
(http://imageshack.us/a/img833/7982/u5zl.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/eojy.jpg/)

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/613/eojy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/eojy.jpg/)

Miami arrived today. I totally wasn't expecting it. Blue is a tad bit lighter than expected, but a sexy set nonetheless. I think it's by far my favorite dyesub set over my hangul one. Thank you again Ivan :thumb:

What color pink is that? Light pink, regular pink, or dark pink.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: cgbuen on Thu, 31 October 2013, 21:30:14
Was the fulltouch caps lock supposed to be beige?  I ended up getting a beige stepped caps lock and a white fulltouch.

Seriously.. I just got mine in today, and got the white fulltouch caps lock too. I appreciate all the effort put into this because it all looks great (especially the Windows keys on the Black standard set.. spectacular). But I'm disappointed because I specifically asked twice - once by PM, and once in this thread - to verify that the fulltouch caps lock would be beige.

(For those of you who don't know, the last GB round from like a year or two ago for imsto two-tone beige sets had this same exact problem, which is why I knew to ask.)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Dianoda on Thu, 31 October 2013, 21:40:41
Pic of Irish on my numpad:

(http://i3.minus.com/ibwoCVXA98Y9HH.jpg)

The red on white/beige are BSP dyesubs from sherryton, the 3 teal on gray keys are vintage BSP dyesubs pulled from an old TA Royal Alpha typewriter.  Overall the thick PBT keys from imsto are pretty nice, and look great, although I ultimately prefer the BSP keys (their texture is a bit smoother and edges are softer).
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: eyesmiles on Thu, 31 October 2013, 21:44:18

Miami arrived today. I totally wasn't expecting it. Blue is a tad bit lighter than expected, but a sexy set nonetheless. I think it's by far my favorite dyesub set over my hangul one. Thank you again Ivan :thumb:

What color pink is that? Light pink, regular pink, or dark pink.

A dark pink, closer to a magenta.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 31 October 2013, 22:03:30
Pic of Irish on my numpad:

Show Image
(http://i3.minus.com/ibwoCVXA98Y9HH.jpg)


The red on white/beige are BSP dyesubs from sherryton, the 3 teal on gray keys are vintage BSP dyesubs pulled from an old TA Royal Alpha typewriter.  Overall the thick PBT keys from imsto are pretty nice, and look great, although I ultimately prefer the BSP keys (their texture is a bit smoother and edges are softer).

Interesting, BSP is a lot more beige on average.  The alphas are more beige than IMSTO's already off-white alphas, and the modifiers are more creamy beige too.  Glad you've posted the two next to each other!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: muad on Thu, 31 October 2013, 22:46:12
Aww, I went for this set because it sounded like they fixed the white full touch capslock problem. Oh well I'm sure it will still be sexy as hell. Thanks Ivan for all the hardwork!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: JPG on Thu, 31 October 2013, 22:49:23
Well, let's wait for Ivan's answer and see from there. At least the green looks totally amazing!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 05:02:16
Aww, I went for this set because it sounded like they fixed the white full touch capslock problem. Oh well I'm sure it will still be sexy as hell. Thanks Ivan for all the hardwork!

Darn. I thought the caps lock problem would have been fixed, too.

It will probably still look good.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 01 November 2013, 06:01:46
Well, let's wait for Ivan's answer and see from there. At least the green looks totally amazing!

Yeah, let's wait for Ivan to respond to that.

But I have to say, that's a real bummer for me. Destroy the beauty of the set for me :(

In my opinion IMSTO should take care of this and sent everybody who needs one a replacement caps lock key free of charge. I mean what we got, was not what we ordered.

@ Ivan:

Have you shipped my sets already? If not, please hold them until this situation is solved.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: insilica on Fri, 01 November 2013, 07:59:27
Well, let's wait for Ivan's answer and see from there. At least the green looks totally amazing!

Yeah, let's wait for Ivan to respond to that.

But I have to say, that's a real bummer for me. Destroy the beauty of the set for me :(

In my opinion IMSTO should take care of this and sent everybody who needs one a replacement caps lock key free of charge. I mean what we got, was not what we ordered.

@ Ivan:

Have you shipped my sets already? If not, please hold them until this situation is solved.

Hmm. Yea. I'm not too fussed on this occasion to be perfectly honest.

Loving the pics BTW  :p - Keep them coming :D

@LechnerDE
But I agree it can be a show stopper as the issue is very subjective based on an individuals preference and the look they want to achieve.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:32:01
There is a few issues, but it may be some time before I could get any replacement so I thought it better to get things out. I'll let you know whats going on when I know.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:29:25
There is a few issues, but it may be some time before I could get any replacement so I thought it better to get things out. I'll let you know whats going on when I know.

It would be great to at least be able to buy a proper colored caps lock key for each set type.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Furobins on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:31:27
(http://i.imgur.com/YAkCc8E.jpg)

I need to find myself a red escape key now...anyone know of a place?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:52:48
Mmmm the black set looks very nice.  Too bad about those white Caps Lock caps :(  Someone should post a photo of the Green set!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:23:10
Damn I'm sure they were told about the Caps color problem ever since more than year a go and still they do the same mistake over and over. Irresponsible manufacturer management... keys look good no doubt, but repeating same mistake for more than a year?....
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IcyEyeG on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:36:06
I didn't know the gb included blank B row 1.25 keycaps. I'd really love to get two of those (to get rid of my windows keycaps).
There won't be any leftovers, right?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 01 November 2013, 18:42:06
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YAkCc8E.jpg)


I need to find myself a red escape key now...anyone know of a place?

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_redesc

?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Furobins on Fri, 01 November 2013, 22:04:23
I didn't know the gb included blank B row 1.25 keycaps. I'd really love to get two of those (to get rid of my windows keycaps).
There won't be any leftovers, right?

I actually got a printed set + blank set, and had the blank 1.25 keycaps in place of the normal ones. Usually they are the windows key and the menu keys.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YAkCc8E.jpg)


I need to find myself a red escape key now...anyone know of a place?

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_redesc

?

Ah, perfect thanks!

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IcyEyeG on Sat, 02 November 2013, 05:35:22
I actually got a printed set + blank set, and had the blank 1.25 keycaps in place of the normal ones. Usually they are the windows key and the menu keys.

Ah, right, that makes sense... I forgot the groupbuy included a blank set...  :-[
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:51:01
Am I crazy or is the pound sign sideways?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: meeekus on Sat, 02 November 2013, 10:15:35
Am I crazy or is the pound sign sideways?

You could be right..... That might make 2 errors in this GB.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 02 November 2013, 10:16:49
Am I crazy or is the pound sign sideways?

You could be right..... That might make 2 errors in this GB.

The pound sign is correct, that's what the one on my dolch set looks like and also on my black on beige set

pic of the black on beige from originative (GMK cherry font)

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Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 02 November 2013, 12:08:35
I thought the caps lock was supposed to be fixed, but apparently they still need to make new mold so this problem won't happen. Evidently the fulltouch caps lock is in a mold group with the homing keys and numpad 0.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 02 November 2013, 12:10:56
Why does it matter which mold they use?  Isn't it just the color of plastic?  If it's proper in white, they could have just cast it in beige/gray instead--or am I missing something?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 02 November 2013, 12:12:05
Their 'problem' is they didn't want to make those extra keys in other color.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 02 November 2013, 12:13:48
Why does it matter which mold they use?  Isn't it just the color of plastic?  If it's proper in white, they could have just cast it in beige/gray instead--or am I missing something?

I believe they have groups that get made together and in order to make the caps lock a different color they would also have to make the homing keys and numpad 0 in that color.

The keys are not individually made but made in groups.

ninja'd by ivan
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 02 November 2013, 12:16:58
Odd that they make it fine in dark gray and in blue.  Oh well, doesn't bother me personally, given the asymmetry with `~ and \| already.  Plus stepped Caps Lock is best Caps Lock :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: kenmai9 on Sat, 02 November 2013, 15:00:42
Is the stepped Caps lock center stem?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Dianoda on Sat, 02 November 2013, 15:11:14
Is the stepped Caps lock center stem?

The stepped capslock included with my irish set has an offset stem.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: cgbuen on Sat, 02 November 2013, 15:38:07
Their 'problem' is they didn't want to make those extra keys in other color.

Odd that they make it fine in dark gray and in blue.  Oh well, doesn't bother me personally, given the asymmetry with `~ and \| already.  Plus stepped Caps Lock is best Caps Lock :D

It took me a while to realize what you've meant by this, but it makes sense now: their molds have more than one key, so they're putting in all of the same color plastic in that multiple-key mold, and the fulltouch caps lock key is part of a mold that has keys of all the opposite tone. So if they did a beige fulltouch, that means you also get these weird beige versions of other keys as well (like numpad 0, etc.), so that'd increase the cost of the sets because that's more plastic coming through. Still kind of sucks..

I'm guessing that the blue/gray sets are correct because they make full single-tone sets in each of those colors and just mix and match the mods. I don't think they make beige-only toned sets (they wouldn't be purposing them as inverted beige/white two-tone sets.. though that would be interesting).
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 03 November 2013, 07:08:46
Inverted 2tone beige/white is something I would really like to do at some point. I love how that looks on my old Commodore G80-0499HAU.

I should be finish shipping all orders on Monday.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Sun, 03 November 2013, 17:56:19
Any advice on finding a fulltouch caps lock in the same color? Would WASD's "dark grey" match?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: swill on Sun, 03 November 2013, 18:10:44
Any advice on finding a fulltouch caps lock in the same color? Would WASD's "dark grey" match?

I don't think wasd does cherry profile, do they?  So even if the cap color matches, I doubt it would be a good solution.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Sun, 03 November 2013, 19:02:14
Any advice on finding a fulltouch caps lock in the same color? Would WASD's "dark grey" match?

I don't think wasd does cherry profile, do they?  So even if the cap color matches, I doubt it would be a good solution.
Oh wow, haha, in my ignorance I didn't realize what "Cherry profile" meant when ordering these.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: swill on Sun, 03 November 2013, 20:04:05
Any advice on finding a fulltouch caps lock in the same color? Would WASD's "dark grey" match?

I don't think wasd does cherry profile, do they?  So even if the cap color matches, I doubt it would be a good solution.
Oh wow, haha, in my ignorance I didn't realize what "Cherry profile" meant when ordering these.

Well you got lucky and got good quality caps.  :)  Now you can compare and see which profile you prefer.  I prefer cherry profile and I am currently typing on caps which are probably from the same mould as this GB.  They are my daily drivers...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:30:12
My suggestion is to mod the stem to centre as I did for my imsto set.
It looks ugly because I use resin glue to mod.
The glue is very strong to keep the stem on pbt plastic.
However, in the end, it works perfectly  :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/xYbHN3B.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:33:35
I'm still waiting for my blue set from Ivan and I could mod the centre stepped Caps lock again.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: swill on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:55:28
why are you modding the center caps lock? 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:59:48
why are you modding the center caps lock?

Sorry, I mean to mod the off-centre stepped caps lock to become centre steppted caps lock as I already did :

(http://i.imgur.com/xYbHN3B.jpg)

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: swill on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:06:57
why are you modding the center caps lock?

Sorry, I mean to mod the off-centre stepped caps lock to become centre steppted caps lock as I already did :

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xYbHN3B.jpg)


Oh, I understand...  I see it now when I look at your picture, but I didn't see the level change initially.  Looks pretty good.  does it feel alright?  how did you clip the stem off?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:26:07
why are you modding the center caps lock?

Sorry, I mean to mod the off-centre stepped caps lock to become centre steppted caps lock as I already did :

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xYbHN3B.jpg)


Oh, I understand...  I see it now when I look at your picture, but I didn't see the level change initially.  Looks pretty good.  does it feel alright?  how did you clip the stem off?

Ok, first I use Dremel machine to gradually grind the stem off.
After the original stem was off and destroyed, I used a donor keycap that I had from Taobao, cut it and grind it until I had a balance stem.
Next, I use A-B resin glue to glue the new stem and the pbt caps lock together.
This is the hardest step because making the stem to be centred requires some efforts of measurement and adjustment. For me, I need to lose 2 donor keycaps to make it really works.

After all, the feeling is great. I will take the picture of the keyboard later but for me the position fits nicely with ASD row.

Sorry for potato pic  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/TPUUWTr.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: LONGZILLA on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:35:18
Pretty disappointed about the capslock color issue... is there plans to remedy this in the future still?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 04 November 2013, 01:26:43
Pretty disappointed about the capslock color issue... is there plans to remedy this in the future still?

Yeah, I feel you.

I ordered 3 different sets, but I don't think I will ever use them with this odd capslock key :(

Maybe Ivan can arrange something with IMSTO and let him produce replacement keys. He could combine it with his current Novelty Key group buy for example.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:48:05
I was hoping I could do that, but sadly the factory that make the keycap don't want to make it easy. They want to enforce 300 MOQ to run that key group mold in beige/grey :( so it looks like there is nothing I can do about it this time.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: swill on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:57:26
Sorry for potato pic  ;D
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TPUUWTr.jpg)


The set you linked is my daily driver.  The color of the caps lock bugged me for about 3 days.  Now I could care less...  Hopefully you will be happy enough with the way the set feels to not care about that minor detail. 
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: JPG on Mon, 04 November 2013, 10:20:55
I was hoping I could do that, but sadly the factory that make the keycap don't want to make it easy. They want to enforce 300 MOQ to run that key group mold in beige/grey :( so it looks like there is nothing I can do about it this time.

Sad. Very sad ...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 04 November 2013, 10:25:55
Solution: RIT dye.  Or side-stemmed Caps Lock switch placement.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: JPG on Mon, 04 November 2013, 10:32:21
Solution: RIT dye.  Or side-stemmed Caps Lock switch placement.

Or we find a way to reach the 300 moq. For 1 key, I would probably be willing to buy 2-3 to reach moq even if I only need 1, depending on price. Even if only for blank. 300 is a lot for a full set, but for 1 key it's much less. I don't know what are the volumes for the last GB, but maybe we could make an IC/poll to see if we could get this number.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 10:44:21
That company is very stubborn... they never want to do anything.

Looks like its time for you guys to start modding. As a plus, the stepped caps looks nicer.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: JPG on Mon, 04 November 2013, 10:49:03
That company is very stubborn... they never want to do anything.

Looks like its time for you guys to start modding. As a plus, the stepped caps looks nicer.

I would be happy if the stepped capslock was center stemmed, but it's not (and if I needed an offset stem I would be happy to have it). And if I ever tried to cut the stem and glue it it would be an utter failure, of that I am sure.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 04 November 2013, 10:59:40
le sigh, shouldn't be necessary to mod/dye/buy something that was sold/marketed as is

/rant, note: not directed to Ivan at all, always appreciative of all your hard work in organizing these GBs
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:10:31
Yeah... I get real frustrated with these keycap manufacturers and their stubborn ways. But, they know they essentially have a monopoly (well there is also BSP but they have their own set of other problems to deal with them) for this exact keycaps so they can get away with being as difficult to deal with as they want.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:19:53
You want I go teach 'em a lesson, lysol? Kneecap 'em or somethin'?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: insilica on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:33:15
You want I go teach 'em a lesson, lysol? Kneecap 'em or somethin'?

Jeeeez chill moose. :'(

I guess the way around is to avoid them in future group buys if at all possible.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:40:49
Solution: RIT dye.  Or side-stemmed Caps Lock switch placement.

Or we find a way to reach the 300 moq. For 1 key, I would probably be willing to buy 2-3 to reach moq even if I only need 1, depending on price. Even if only for blank. 300 is a lot for a full set, but for 1 key it's much less. I don't know what are the volumes for the last GB, but maybe we could make an IC/poll to see if we could get this number.

Yeah, I'd buy more keys than I need as well if it helps reaching MOQ.

But I assume this is for every color, so we'd probably have to buy 300x caps lock for the Irish set, 300x for the Ural set, etc...

Btw, does the blank set also have the wrong caps lock key or is this problem limited to the dyesub ones?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:52:58

I guess the way around is to avoid them in future group buys if at all possible.


But there really is no good/better alternative :(
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:58:14
All the 2tone key have same. It's because of the keys grouping in the molds. We would have to buy 300x caps lock, homing keys, numpad 0 in beige at least and there might even be some others in there. I suppose alternate homing keys are possibly interesting, not sure what else to really do with beige numpad 0 key besides it being useful for keyboard with 2unit shift.

Right, the only other choice is BSP... and they don't even have fulltouch caps locks, 1.25 keys, or SPACEBARS! Plus they cost a lot more too. Easiest solution if they are going to be problem about 2tone is not to do 2tone and stick to single key color.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 12:48:14
I want to do the stepped caps mod to make it center stemmed. I'm just afraid to mess it up.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 12:54:32
I'm sure there are tons of people who don't ever use the stepped caps and it doesn't bother them who would give it up in case someone messed up their mod.

Though, in reality, it should be easy to fix if you mess up. Just Dremel it out again and use another stem and try again. As long as you don't Dremel too much, and have and endless supply of donor stem caps, you're good.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: swill on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:02:18
All the 2tone key have same. It's because of the keys grouping in the molds. We would have to buy 300x caps lock, homing keys, numpad 0 in beige at least and there might even be some others in there. I suppose alternate homing keys are possibly interesting, not sure what else to really do with beige numpad 0 key besides it being useful for keyboard with 2unit shift.

Right, the only other choice is BSP... and they don't even have fulltouch caps locks, 1.25 keys, or SPACEBARS! Plus they cost a lot more too. Easiest solution if they are going to be problem about 2tone is not to do 2tone and stick to single key color.

I think some people may like the dark home keys.  Hey it frames GH.  :)  The 0 could potentially be useful for some people if we just get it as a blank cap...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: cgbuen on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:34:09
I'm down if we try hitting the 300 MOQ for the fulltouch caps lock mold group in the beige color. I'm sure it would help for buyers of previous two-tone GBs too.

Or another solution would be like Ivan said, start up a GB for inverted two-tone sets, which is an interesting idea in itself. This would be done knowing that they'll have the same fulltouch caps lock error (beige alphas, white mods, but incorrect beige fulltouch caps lock). And then, people who participated in both this and that GB can switch the two proper keys once they receive the sets.

Possibly unlikely due to knowing full well that there's going to be an "error" with the GB beforehand, but just a suggestion.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:37:31
Plus, as a plus in the inverted mods, we could do 1x numpad 0 and maybe 00.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:38:49
I'm down if we try hitting the 300 MOQ for the fulltouch caps lock mold group in the beige color. I'm sure it would help for buyers of previous two-tone GBs too.

Or another solution would be like Ivan said, start up a GB for inverted two-tone sets, which is an interesting idea in itself. This would be done knowing that they'll have the same fulltouch caps lock error (beige alphas, white mods, but incorrect beige fulltouch caps lock). And then, people who participated in both this and that GB can switch the two proper keys once they receive the sets.

Possibly unlikely due to knowing full well that there's going to be an "error" with the GB beforehand, but just a suggestion.

Just my opinion, but I don't think this manufacture deserves even more of our money
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: JPG on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:39:21
I'm down if we try hitting the 300 MOQ for the fulltouch caps lock mold group in the beige color. I'm sure it would help for buyers of previous two-tone GBs too.

Or another solution would be like Ivan said, start up a GB for inverted two-tone sets, which is an interesting idea in itself. This would be done knowing that they'll have the same fulltouch caps lock error (beige alphas, white mods, but incorrect beige fulltouch caps lock). And then, people who participated in both this and that GB can switch the two proper keys once they receive the sets.

Possibly unlikely due to knowing full well that there's going to be an "error" with the GB beforehand, but just a suggestion.

If we get a new mold done (I doubt it, but we never know) it would be nice to also get the \ key (above enter) in the same color scheme as the mods to make it symmetric!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:41:11
@longzilla - I can understand your point of view, but these are really the only place to get these thick Cherry profile PBT caps in custom designs at a nice price. Its not always so easy to walk away.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 04 November 2013, 14:01:30
Exactly, you can pay $120-130 for BSP PBT and not get any 1.25 modifiers and no space bar at all.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 04 November 2013, 14:50:17
Whoneedsspacebarsanyway...whatastupiduselesskeythatis!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: rindorbrot on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:43:19
I still want pictures! ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Tue, 05 November 2013, 08:50:50
Sorry for potato pic  ;D
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TPUUWTr.jpg)


The set you linked is my daily driver.  The color of the caps lock bugged me for about 3 days.  Now I could care less...  Hopefully you will be happy enough with the way the set feels to not care about that minor detail.

For me, I used this keyboard for small tasks required moving around.
The centre stepped cap locks is acceptable for me.
Here is a better picture
(http://i.imgur.com/x3XIggh.jpg)




Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: insilica on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:27:29
Sorry for potato pic  ;D
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TPUUWTr.jpg)


The set you linked is my daily driver.  The color of the caps lock bugged me for about 3 days.  Now I could care less...  Hopefully you will be happy enough with the way the set feels to not care about that minor detail.

For me, I used this keyboard for small tasks required moving around.
The centre stepped cap locks is acceptable for me.
Here is a better picture
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/x3XIggh.jpg)







Hmm this doesn't look half bad TBH. I may do the same :D albeit with black donor caps.

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (packing)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:04:09
All orders ship as of today.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:42:42
Did my order go out today or earlier?  Is curious!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 05 November 2013, 13:13:43
All orders ship as of today.

Excite!  Thank!

Plus another keyboard shipped yesterday too - let's see which arrives first ...

The plan is to unite them when they arrive.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: deSheol on Tue, 05 November 2013, 13:15:59
Let me know if you'd get tired of the PBT set, mate. I am interested in them!  :thumb:

All orders ship as of today.

Excite!  Thank!

Plus another keyboard shipped yesterday too - let's see which arrives first ...

The plan is to unite them when they arrive.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: tobr1an on Tue, 05 November 2013, 14:03:46
Did my order go out today or earlier?  Is curious!

Me too!@
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: blighty on Tue, 05 November 2013, 15:03:53
It's a shame about the full touch, but it just means I'll have to find a custom board to put my round 1 alphas with my round 2 mods.  Thanks again, lysol/Ivan  :thumb:

[attach=1]
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 05 November 2013, 15:20:50
It's a shame about the full touch, but it just means I'll have to find a custom board to put my round 1 alphas with my round 2 mods.  Thanks again, lysol/Ivan  :thumb:

(Attachment Link)

That's quite a looker. Is that MJ2 stock white or did you paint it?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 05 November 2013, 16:26:24
If you're in the USA and haven't gotten your order already it was most likely either shipped Monday or Today. For the most part I sent out orders by forum name alphabetically.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Cafiend on Tue, 05 November 2013, 16:37:32
I like the sorting. Thanks man!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: blighty on Tue, 05 November 2013, 16:59:21
It's a shame about the full touch, but it just means I'll have to find a custom board to put my round 1 alphas with my round 2 mods.  Thanks again, lysol/Ivan  :thumb:

(Attachment Link)

That's quite a looker. Is that MJ2 stock white or did you paint it?

It's a stock off-white Filco Ninja (MX Blacks).  My 'daily' driver.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 05 November 2013, 16:59:56
If you're in the USA and haven't gotten your order already it was most likely either shipped Monday or Today. For the most part I sent out orders by forum name alphabetically.

That should teach me to begin my user names with A or a 0 :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 05 November 2013, 17:02:27
Sometime I send out by invoice number, or paid on date or...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 05 November 2013, 17:06:26
Sometime I send out by invoice number, or paid on date or...
...and order within the first day of GB's opening!  Min-maxing my group buy experience  :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: berrymxblue on Tue, 05 November 2013, 17:24:22
Are there any extras that anyone is trying to unload, please let me know! :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 05 November 2013, 18:03:08
Let me know if you'd get tired of the PBT set, mate. I am interested in them!  :thumb:

Noted, but the plan (such as it is) is to use this set as the standard set on my QFR MX greens (which is also on its way), and swap them out occasionally when I get new novelty sets.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: would on Wed, 06 November 2013, 00:03:22
Sometime I send out by invoice number, or paid on date or...
...and order within the first day of GB's opening!  Min-maxing my group buy experience  :p

Based on my forum name and that I ordered at the last moment, I think I pretty much failed in that regard. :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 06 November 2013, 04:33:07
Can you please run this GB next, Ivan  8)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3B925IB.jpg)


I would throw my money at this... do want.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 06 November 2013, 12:03:41
Got my set and novelty caps today!  Photos

(http://i.imgur.com/DEii2DA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QoG9jQ8.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ztQUv7h.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8bt5R9G.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: JPG on Wed, 06 November 2013, 12:07:04
Oh man that green, just can't wait to get it now!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 06 November 2013, 12:27:37
The Green set goes perfectly with the green Cherry novelty caps!  It's like they were made for each other :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 06 November 2013, 12:28:53
Of course they were ; )
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:18:01
The Green set goes perfectly with the green Cherry novelty caps!  It's like they were made for each other :)

And if only they were going onto a set of MX greens ...

Isn't that what the different coloured Cherry keys signify?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:32:27
Well, yeah, but...  Details!  ;D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Jmneuv on Wed, 06 November 2013, 14:22:05
Photos
Nice, thanks for those.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: insilica on Thu, 07 November 2013, 02:16:51
Lovely looking set :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 02:44:13
Got my set and novelty caps today!  Photos

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/DEii2DA.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QoG9jQ8.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ztQUv7h.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8bt5R9G.jpg)


Wow, it's great  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: meeekus on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:59:33
Anyone else with blue think it would be much lighter font color?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:43:04
Overall most of the colors didn't come out exactly for what I was shooting for. Some are a little bit off, a couple were way off. I've been talking to imsto about what needs to be done to ensure color exactness for future.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:44:26
I wondered about that, because I remember reading that IMSTO had some 100F+ temperature at the factory and couldn't dye properly around the time when our sets were being made.  I wonder if that in any way affected the way colors came out.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 07 November 2013, 18:05:40
Overall most of the colors didn't come out exactly for what I was shooting for. Some are a little bit off, a couple were way off. I've been talking to imsto about what needs to be done to ensure color exactness for future.

Miami Odessa is one that seemed very off to me, but I do really like the way it turned out.  Very soft colors, and it still goes really well together.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 08 November 2013, 01:34:02
It would be great if anyone takes pictures of their red set.
I'm confusing if I should buy another Red set or not  :-\

Thank you Ivan for arranging this GB.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: L4yercake on Fri, 08 November 2013, 02:09:22
Would love to see pics from users of the Ural - US/RU Orange set. Really curious as to how they came out.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:31:02
Just got my set today. Thanks so much for organizing this!

Can anybody determine which Signature Plastics colors are closest to these two grays? I have a WFK spacebar and it is noticeably brighter than these "whites".

Edit: here's a color comparison of various white/grey keycaps.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3800/10745977424_68031d91dd.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/topdownjimmy/10745977424/)

Spacebar is Signature Plastics "WFK"

Left to right:

WASD "White"
IMSTO "White"
WASD "Light Grey"
IMSTO "Grey"
WASD "Dark Grey"
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:16:46
Got a huge package from Ivan today  :p

(http://i.imgur.com/w1XR63f.png)

I love how the sets turned out, but the wrong capslock key is really bothering me. It looks so stupid and misplaced on the board :(

Of course this is not Ivan's fault, but I hope this can be resolved in the future. Wouldn't it be possible to make "novelty caps" GB for capslock keys with a MOQ of 20?

But apart from that:

Thank you very much for all the efforts you put into all your GBs Ivan!!

 :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 08 November 2013, 15:21:55
Overall most of the colors didn't come out exactly for what I was shooting for. Some are a little bit off, a couple were way off. I've been talking to imsto about what needs to be done to ensure color exactness for future.

Miami Odessa is one that seemed very off to me, but I do really like the way it turned out.  Very soft colors, and it still goes really well together.

The hot pink in the Odessa set came out pretty close to what I expected.

The turquoise came out too light.

Still a beautiful set.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: zoolzoo on Fri, 08 November 2013, 15:26:07
Here's my DS Cherry keys along with some other stuff I got in the mail today. Thanks Ivan!!


(http://i.imgur.com/sk8s2mI.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: insilica on Fri, 08 November 2013, 15:51:52
Oh man. Really looking forward to getting my set  :eek:

Hope they get here in one piece  :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: whiteduck on Fri, 08 November 2013, 17:32:54
(http://i.imgur.com/j7rYxaL.jpg)

Woot ^_^  I should have got MOAR CHERRIES!!!!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: meeekus on Fri, 08 November 2013, 17:43:08
Here's my DS Cherry keys along with some other stuff I got in the mail today. Thanks Ivan!!


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sk8s2mI.jpg)

The blue cherry is the blue I was hoping would be on the full set. But alas it's more navy than anything.

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:04:35
Does anybody have any blank meta/Windows keys they'd be willing to part with? I'm not crazy about these colored Windows legends (particularly as I have a Mac).
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 09 November 2013, 00:49:08
Does anybody have any blank meta/Windows keys they'd be willing to part with? I'm not crazy about these colored Windows legends (particularly as I have a Mac).

Which set are you talking about?

My Irish set has blank 2 blank meta keys, which I'd like to replace with the green win symbols from the regular green set :)

Anybody up for this little trade?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Sat, 09 November 2013, 09:28:17
Does anybody have any blank meta/Windows keys they'd be willing to part with? I'm not crazy about these colored Windows legends (particularly as I have a Mac).

Which set are you talking about?
The Black ANSI set with the multi-colored "Windows 3.1" logo.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: IcyEyeG on Sat, 09 November 2013, 16:31:19
My Irish set has blank 2 blank meta keys, which I'd like to replace with the green win symbols from the regular green set :)

Anybody up for this little trade?

I didn't participate in this GB, but I have a G80-3000 white/grey. I can trade my win keys with your blanks, since I'm a Linux user.
However, please note that they have black legends.
I'm in Europe, as you are.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 10 November 2013, 00:43:16
Thanks for your offer, but I am looking for an exact match :)

Does anybody who bought the green set want to get rid of his win keys?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: bardomudo on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:36:45
Hey Ivan, I never got any shipping confirmation through email. Do you have any tracking number so I can keep an eye on my package?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:52:37
International orders don't get a tracking with first class.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: insilica on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:29:54
Hey Ivan, I never got any shipping confirmation through email. Do you have any tracking number so I can keep an eye on my package?

^^^ never knew we get shipping confirmations: I don't think anyone did unless the receiver has opted for tracked delivery.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 10 November 2013, 13:39:40
Hey Ivan, I never got any shipping confirmation through email. Do you have any tracking number so I can keep an eye on my package?

^^^ never knew we get shipping confirmations: I don't think anyone did unless the receiver has opted for tracked delivery.


I've never worried that much about it.

Even with (a certain level of) tracking, it only covers the package as far as a US airport.  Then suddenly a couple of weeks later a package arrives in my mailbox.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 10 November 2013, 19:45:15
Right, USPS first class stop updating after it leaves customs in US. To get door to door international tracking you would have had to get Priority Express and it is super ****ing expensive.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: LONGZILLA on Sun, 10 November 2013, 19:46:40
Here's the blue legend set for anybody who cares...

(http://i.imgur.com/fB8ZTmG.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:10:41
All I'm really after is an 87-key set, in these colors (but with the correct caps lock color), PBT, regardless of profile (OEM, Cherry, whatever), and preferably with a blank (or Mac) "Windows" key.

I'm surprised it's so hard to find. Anybody know of any place I can get something like this? If I could I'd happily buy two.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:23:39
All I'm really after is an 87-key set, in these colors (but with the correct caps lock color), PBT, regardless of profile (OEM, Cherry, whatever), and preferably with a blank (or Mac) "Windows" key.

I'm surprised it's so hard to find. Anybody know of any place I can get something like this? If I could I'd happily buy two.

http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets-1/products/bsp-classic-beige
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:43:42
All I'm really after is an 87-key set, in these colors (but with the correct caps lock color), PBT, regardless of profile (OEM, Cherry, whatever), and preferably with a blank (or Mac) "Windows" key.

I'm surprised it's so hard to find. Anybody know of any place I can get something like this? If I could I'd happily buy two.

http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets-1/products/bsp-classic-beige
Thanks! I was hoping for a 1.25x Windows key; I suppose I could buy a black set and an otaku set and mix and match; although (a) it doesn't come with a spacebar, and (b) the f5-f8 keys are white.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: berrymxblue on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:26:20
Wow they look great, really wish imsto's group would have addressed the issue by now.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: insilica on Wed, 13 November 2013, 05:26:56
(http://i.imgur.com/kLJBlnN.jpg)

Arrived yesterday, installed today @ work. Thx Ivan :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 13 November 2013, 05:46:06
(http://i.imgur.com/lkhj0RI.jpg)
All I need now is a board to put them on. :P
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Bencze on Wed, 13 November 2013, 06:29:35
I think I'm posting in the right topic :)

Got these caps today (Hungary).

(http://imageshack.com/a/img163/8288/oc8c.jpg)

Thank you IvanIvanovich.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: phx on Wed, 13 November 2013, 09:27:21
don't suppose anyone want to sell/trade their gray blue-on-gray mods w/ numpad?
I have blue-on-white set from a GH a while ago, kinda prefer gray mods over white.

but dat cap lock... cringe.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: gigibecali on Wed, 13 November 2013, 10:05:20
I think I'm posting in the right topic :)

Got these caps today (Hungary).

Show Image
(http://imageshack.com/a/img163/8288/oc8c.jpg)


Thank you IvanIvanovich.

How hard was to clean the glue after removing that HPE logo? Any scratches?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: topdownjimmy on Wed, 13 November 2013, 10:44:56
All I'm really after is an 87-key set, in these colors (but with the correct caps lock color), PBT, regardless of profile (OEM, Cherry, whatever), and preferably with a blank (or Mac) "Windows" key.

I'm surprised it's so hard to find. Anybody know of any place I can get something like this? If I could I'd happily buy two.

http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets-1/products/bsp-classic-beige
Thanks! I was hoping for a 1.25x Windows key; I suppose I could buy a black set and an otaku set and mix and match; although (a) it doesn't come with a spacebar, and (b) the f5-f8 keys are white.
Also, I just learned, all of these modifier keys are 1.5x instead of 1.25x, and their caps lock key has an offset stem.



Solution: RIT dye.  Or side-stemmed Caps Lock switch placement.

Or we find a way to reach the 300 moq. For 1 key, I would probably be willing to buy 2-3 to reach moq even if I only need 1, depending on price. Even if only for blank. 300 is a lot for a full set, but for 1 key it's much less. I don't know what are the volumes for the last GB, but maybe we could make an IC/poll to see if we could get this number.
ditto on this. if 60 people bought five? is that plausible? the white caps lock really bothers me :\
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Bencze on Wed, 13 November 2013, 11:01:59
How hard was to clean the glue after removing that HPE logo? Any scratches?
Your eyes are better than your choice of name good Sir. :) I didn't even clean any glue, there was probably very little used. I don't know about the scratches, didn't really care. It's probably not perfect but as you can see on this crappy picture there's no serious damage. Can make and PM you a better pic tomorrow when I'm back to work, if I don't forget.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: csimi on Wed, 13 November 2013, 12:32:13
Another one from Hungary:

(http://i.imgur.com/YJjVKaa.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: would on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:10:27
Got the set as well, lovely thick PBT.

2 problems though:

- Did anyone else notice that the spacebar gets stuck in cherry stabilizers? The only way I can use it on my Poker II or Ducky boards is that I put it only halfway on the switch, otherwise it just stays in the bottom out position. It can prove problematic if I don't have a keypuller with me, as it's really hard to get it out. I bought another PBT keyset from IMSTO a few months ago, no problems with that, neither with Poker II's stock PBT, or with another PBT set from Vortex. So I tested 3 other sets, each on 2 different keyboards, so I can safely say that the problem is not with my boards.

I'm trying to figure out if it's a problem with the batch or it's just my spacebar. Obviously, if it's not an overall problem with the batch, I'd like a replacement. :)

- Ivan, do you, by any chance, have a spare blank Caps Lock? I got an extra '\' cap (also blank) instead.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:13:11
Got the set as well, lovely thick PBT.

2 problems though:

- Did anyone else notice that the spacebar gets stuck in cherry stabilizers? The only way I can use it on my Poker II is that I put it only halfway on the switch. I don't know if it's a problem on my side or not, but it is annoying and can prove problematic if I don't have a keypuller with me, as it is really hard to get it out.

- Ivan, do you, by any chance, have a spare blank Caps Lock? I got an extra '\' cap (also blank) instead.

I actually had the same problem on my Poker X. I just put the spacebar on lightly so it wasn't an issue anymore.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:14:26
Another one from Hungary:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YJjVKaa.jpg)


Is that an alu filco? NICE
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: would on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:02:36
*snip*

I actually had the same problem on my Poker X. I just put the spacebar on lightly so it wasn't an issue anymore.

I tried the same to be able to use it, but it still bugs me, and I have to carry a keypuller with my Poker II whenever I take it away. It's not really a solution, and if it's not an overall problem, then I would assume I have a faulty spacebar. But I'll have to wait for others to be able to confirm or disprove that.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: swill on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:06:04
*snip*

I actually had the same problem on my Poker X. I just put the spacebar on lightly so it wasn't an issue anymore.

I tried the same to be able to use it, but it still bugs me, and I have to carry a keypuller with my Poker II whenever I take it away. It's not really a solution, and if it's not an overall problem, then I would assume I have a faulty spacebar. But I'll have to wait for others to be able to confirm or disprove that.

Did you try lubing the stabilizers?  I got a spacebar from IMSTO a long time ago, but I am pretty sure it is from the same mold.  I lubed my stabilizers and it made things much smoother...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: would on Wed, 13 November 2013, 23:28:16
*snip*

I actually had the same problem on my Poker X. I just put the spacebar on lightly so it wasn't an issue anymore.

I tried the same to be able to use it, but it still bugs me, and I have to carry a keypuller with my Poker II whenever I take it away. It's not really a solution, and if it's not an overall problem, then I would assume I have a faulty spacebar. But I'll have to wait for others to be able to confirm or disprove that.

Did you try lubing the stabilizers?  I got a spacebar from IMSTO a long time ago, but I am pretty sure it is from the same mold.  I lubed my stabilizers and it made things much smoother...


I haven't, but I'll try. Thanks for the idea.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 13 November 2013, 23:35:05
I think I'm posting in the right topic :)

Got these caps today (Hungary).

Show Image
(http://imageshack.com/a/img163/8288/oc8c.jpg)


Thank you IvanIvanovich.

Very Nice. I love the old school win key.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: insilica on Thu, 14 November 2013, 06:13:33
I think I'm posting in the right topic :)

Got these caps today (Hungary).

Show Image
(http://imageshack.com/a/img163/8288/oc8c.jpg)


Thank you IvanIvanovich.

Very Nice. I love the old school win key.

I so wanted the RGB mods, except no blanks were on offer  :'( . Now need to find me some PBT RGB blank mods  :p
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: whiteduck on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:59:18
Irish <3
(http://i.imgur.com/vKc7BL1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BywTe7Q.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 November 2013, 10:59:11
would, is your spacebar warped? If so it can be fixed possibly. Sorry for mix up with 2 1.5 key instead caps lock. I will see what I can get done for you.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: rindorbrot on Thu, 14 November 2013, 12:07:41
I have bought a set of Blanks and want to put it on an ISO keyboard, so I'd need some additional keys.

If anyone (preferably from Europe) has ordered a blank set and doesn't need the numpad (if you use it on a TKL for example) and wants to sell it to me, please send me a PM!

Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Rancid Ska on Thu, 14 November 2013, 13:20:08
I also had some issues with the spacebar sticking with cherry stabilizers. I had been running a different imsto thick pbt spacebar with no problems (I think that's where it came from, I got it secondhand) and the spacebar from this buy is slightly shorter by maybe a millimeter. I have been dealing with it and it seems to have broken in a bit, but it still sticks from time to time. Putting it on part of the way was helpful, but not perfect. Other than that, I've been enjoying this set!
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 14 November 2013, 13:57:43
Got mine today! I got one of every cherry novelty cap. They look great, minus one thing. Two are black on white, one black on grey. Is this just how the two grey variants turned out? Or perhaps I got some sort of mix up?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:58:13
Put Ivan's Miami Odessa Remix LE on my Keycool today. Sweet looking set, especially with the DDR keys.
In real life the contrast is not as hard as it seems here but I am always shooting pictures under bad light.

(http://i.imgur.com/SI8R5kE.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/dup3R84.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/V9jbcQ7.jpg)

I want to buy a Leopold FC660M next month and use it together with my blue and pink gasmask. :D
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 17:13:46
Has anyone posted pictures of the red set in the wild
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 November 2013, 17:15:27
Kurk posted picture of red set over at DT. (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/pbt-dyesubs-104-105-sets-round2-t5819-120.html)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 17:20:42
That red looks surprisingly nice.  Still patiently waiting for mine with black to swim across whatever ocean it is.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: meeekus on Thu, 14 November 2013, 18:45:12
I guess I'll upload a picture of the blue since no one else has. (with elitekeyboard RGB mods on a white keycool 87)

(http://i.imgur.com/P1Qo3s8.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 14 November 2013, 18:49:33
Would anyone be interested in trading their US Black set for a US Green set?   

[attachimg=1]         
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: would on Fri, 15 November 2013, 09:34:04
would, is your spacebar warped? If so it can be fixed possibly. Sorry for mix up with 2 1.5 key instead caps lock. I will see what I can get done for you.

Strangely enough, this is the straightest PBT spacebar I own. It feels more like it's way too tight, but lube didn't help. The holes are the right size, so the only idea I have left is that they are few tenth of millimetres off, but I don't have anything precise enough to measure that.

Update: the distance between the two side stems is  about 1 mm shorter than of a spacebar that fits perfectly on my Poker II, and the spacebar itself is about 1 mm shorter as well. I don't think it's standard size, and am pretty sure that is what's causing the problem. Any ideas what could be done about it?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: JPG on Fri, 15 November 2013, 09:44:07
Got my set yesterday, but could not do much more than open it since I was ill. Gonna do that this weekend. Anyway, need to bring back my keyboard from the job to put them on.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 23 November 2013, 02:48:37
I'd just like to say that mine have (finally) arrived, and look and feel fantastic!

Thanks Ivan :)

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: bardomudo on Sat, 23 November 2013, 20:46:23
Damn, still waiting for mine...
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: minho on Sat, 23 November 2013, 22:39:45
Does anyone have an extra blank set they'd be willing to sell? (Shipping would be to US)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 06:14:16
I just received my blue PBT keycap + RGB set
Thank you, Ivan. ;)

I put them into my new CM QFR Black + limited 62g Spring from Originative
(http://i.imgur.com/FNNhdqf.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: maxmalkav on Mon, 25 November 2013, 06:45:44
Is the blue colour as light as seems on your picture? Just curiosity. Anyway, looks great :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 06:51:57
Is the blue colour as light as seems on your picture? Just curiosity. Anyway, looks great :)

Honestly, it is not as dark as blue on GMK Classic Beige (Blue legends).
But it's a bit darker actually.
The blue on the picture is lighter due to the flash of the camera.

Updated:
Here is a close-up picture under halogen 30W:
(http://i.imgur.com/8k7hvPY.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (shipped)
Post by: Bullveyr on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:50:57
Got mine today, everything is there and they look great.

Almost forgot: Thanks Ivan :)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: gigibecali on Thu, 28 November 2013, 07:11:24
A very smooth GB experience.

Thank you Ivan.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: ilezia on Thu, 28 November 2013, 17:38:24
(http://ilkkasyrjakari.fi/random/filco.jpg)

Thanks for the great GB Ivan!

First one I took part in, can only hope all future ones would be this smooth hehe.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: cgbuen on Mon, 02 December 2013, 00:56:29
So, with the thread marked "(complete)", will there now be any resolution to the fulltouch caps lock issue?

A couple of people have suggested going through with an IC for that key/mold group in the correct color, despite such a high MOQ. The idea is that some would be in for multiple, just to try to meet get there more easily. I would be in for multiple too.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 02 December 2013, 03:13:28
So, with the thread marked "(complete)", will there now be any resolution to the fulltouch caps lock issue?

A couple of people have suggested going through with an IC for that key/mold group in the correct color, despite such a high MOQ. The idea is that some would be in for multiple, just to try to meet get there more easily. I would be in for multiple too.

As expressed before in this thread, I strongly support getting replacements for the caps lock keys in the correct color. Right now I don't use my sets because this inconsistency is bothering me more than it should.

I would buy at least twice as much as I need, to get my sets right ;)

Hell, I'd even prefer a bunge of blank ones in the correct color over the current keys.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:38:56
Last time I spoke with imsto about this, it sounded like the factory wasn't particularly interested in making a run of these keys at all.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: gh_pp on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:00:17
Last time I spoke with imsto about this, it sounded like the factory wasn't particularly interested in making a run of these keys at all.

Now that imsto has a web store selling directly to the US, I'm very incline to get one of his thick PBT set since I missed this GB.

I read the whole thread but I'm still unsure what the complaint is about.

Is there a picture somewhere depicting the issue?

I assume that imsto is selling the left over on his website. If I understand correctly what the issue is, I want to confirm with him before buying.

Thanks
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:25:09
dam wish I knew about this sooner

any eta on r3?
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: Furobins on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:30:02
Last time I spoke with imsto about this, it sounded like the factory wasn't particularly interested in making a run of these keys at all.

Now that imsto has a web store selling directly to the US, I'm very incline to get one of his thick PBT set since I missed this GB.

I read the whole thread but I'm still unsure what the complaint is about.

Is there a picture somewhere depicting the issue?

I assume that imsto is selling the left over on his website. If I understand correctly what the issue is, I want to confirm with him before buying.

Thanks

The issue is that the images show the non-stepped caps lock key is grey, and is expected to be. However all sets shipper had white non-stepped caps lock keys.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:37:48
Last time I spoke with imsto about this, it sounded like the factory wasn't particularly interested in making a run of these keys at all.

Now that imsto has a web store selling directly to the US, I'm very incline to get one of his thick PBT set since I missed this GB.

I read the whole thread but I'm still unsure what the complaint is about.

Is there a picture somewhere depicting the issue?

I assume that imsto is selling the left over on his website. If I understand correctly what the issue is, I want to confirm with him before buying.

Thanks

You can see the issue on all the pics in this thread. The capslock key is white although it should be grey. It's not the end of the world, but many people including me dislike those inconsistencies.

It has to be mentioned that the stepped capslock key is grey and could be modded to fit on standard keyboards.
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: gh_pp on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:53:26
The issue is that the images show the non-stepped caps lock key is grey, and is expected to be. However all sets shipper had white non-stepped caps lock keys.

You can see the issue on all the pics in this thread. The capslock key is white although it should be grey. It's not the end of the world, but many people including me dislike those inconsistencies.

It has to be mentioned that the stepped capslock key is grey and could be modded to fit on standard keyboards.

Thanks. IIRC imsto did sell the 2 tone set before. So this problem is specific to the latest run I guess. His web store only uses stock photos so I guess I can't tell for sure. I'll ask him to be sure (although he's not very responsive with PM/email and communication isn't very clear because of the language barrier)

Now that you guys mention it, I see it now. Originally I thought the complaint is regarding a lighter shade of gray color as I saw in this pic

(http://i.imgur.com/SI8R5kE.jpg?1)

The stepped caplock wouldn't be a good solution as some people like me map it as control and it's not as easy to hit as the normal caplock key.

Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 04 December 2013, 03:31:56
It kinda irked me, so I found another Caps Lock I had lying around, but the colour didn't quite match.

Since then I've been able to find a centre-stemmed stepped caps lock in what I hope is going to be a close match.

Waiting for it to arrive ...

Besides, who uses Caps Lock these days anyway? ;)
Title: Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (complete)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 December 2013, 06:50:54
dam wish I knew about this sooner

any eta on r3?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0