[IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)

[gnmar2723]

Will the Cyrillic keycaps be available in the anticipated May drop?

I think the plan is to start with the base set and see how it sells, and then release more kits such as the Cryillic, icon mods, etc. depending on how well the base set is selling.

[Konjungamo]

With this being sold via Massdrop there probably won't be an option for EU-shipping, right?

[giammin]

With this being sold via Massdrop there probably won't be an option for EU-shipping, right?

why?? massdrop usually ship to eu

[duynguyenle]

With this being sold via Massdrop there probably won't be an option for EU-shipping, right?

Massdrop will ship keycaps to Europe

[Konjungamo]

With this being sold via Massdrop there probably won't be an option for EU-shipping, right?

Massdrop will ship keycaps to Europe

Sorry, that was worded poorly, I was talking about shipping with an EU-proxy to avoid them going to the US first and being sent from there.
Shipping from the US usally results in a 30-40% increase in price because of custom fees and import taxes.

[T0mb3ry]

With this being sold via Massdrop there probably won't be an option for EU-shipping, right?

Massdrop will ship keycaps to Europe

Sorry, that was worded poorly, I was talking about shipping with an EU-proxy to avoid them going to the US first and being sent from there.
Shipping from the US usally results in a 30-40% increase in price because of custom fees and import taxes.

Thats not the truth. I am from germany and import taxes are the same as usual taxes 19%. Thus it makes no difference. The only thing you probably pay more is the international shipping.

Edit: Found out there are some EU countries with harsch custom fees (not taxes). Well hope MD will get some kind of EU proxy someday.

[xondat]

With this being sold via Massdrop there probably won't be an option for EU-shipping, right?

They do, but enjoy your customs tax

[Vigrith]

Thats not the truth. I am from germany and import taxes are the same as usual taxes 19%. Thus it makes no difference. The only thing you probably pay more is the international shipping.

Edit: Found out there are some EU countries with harsch custom fees (not taxes). Well hope MD will get some kind of EU proxy someday.

Yea, that's confused me in the past too - Portugal also has fairly high import taxes (not VAT), however I have not paid them for Massdrop products a single time yet (caps, keyboards, headphones, amplifiers, even watches, you name it) - in fact, I received my RAMA M10 pad last week and I didn't even pay VAT for it, more often than not the products I get sent from MD actually bypass customs due to the fact that DHL sends them to Germany first before their arrival here meaning the re-brand probably confuses our less than observant staff and they just assume it is a German package rather than American.

It's an extremely strange phenomenon, guess some other country's customs are just more competent than yours and mine.

[jihadu]

Thats not the truth. I am from germany and import taxes are the same as usual taxes 19%. Thus it makes no difference. The only thing you probably pay more is the international shipping.

Edit: Found out there are some EU countries with harsch custom fees (not taxes). Well hope MD will get some kind of EU proxy someday.

Yea, that's confused me in the past too - Portugal also has fairly high import taxes (not VAT), however I have not paid them for Massdrop products a single time yet (caps, keyboards, headphones, amplifiers, even watches, you name it) - in fact, I received my RAMA M10 pad last week and I didn't even pay VAT for it, more often than not the products I get sent from MD actually bypass customs due to the fact that DHL sends them to Germany first before their arrival here meaning the re-brand probably confuses our less than observant staff and they just assume it is a German package rather than American.

It's an extremely strange phenomenon, guess some other country's customs are just more competent than yours and mine.

That's very informative, Vigrith! I have yet to order from MD, but customs in Portugal are absolutely atrocious. The staff is lazy, the service is atrocious and the service charges pile up rather quickly. I once payed twice a watch's worth to get it off customs.

So basically any public service around these parts

[yokken]

Will the Cyrillic keycaps be available in the anticipated May drop?

I think the plan is to start with the base set and see how it sells, and then release more kits such as the Cryillic, icon mods, etc. depending on how well the base set is selling.

I would certainly buy Cyrillic. I don't know if there's been a poll but we should do one now if kit availability is still up in the air.

[mBass]

I would certainly buy Cyrillic. I don't know if there's been a poll but we should do one now if kit availability is still up in the air.

Seconded

[BlackInk]

So DSA Miami Dolch is dropping on May 1st. What about Yuri? Mid May?

[Vigrith]

So DSA Miami Dolch is dropping on May 1st. What about Yuri? Mid May?

I'm not aware of any specific time frame nor am I affiliated with the drop/MD in any way but from my experience I've yet to see two custom set drops in perfect succession - assuming Miami has the run time sets usually do (20~ days) then I'd say Yuri's looking at end of May.

Probably for the better to be honest, we need as many sales here as we can get to enable all the special kits, dropping it RIGHT after would probably affect them both in a less than positive way.

[T0mb3ry]

Just small update to spacebar kit. 2u keys are changed to R4c (row 4 convex).

I would certainly buy Cyrillic. I don't know if there's been a poll but we should do one now if kit availability is still up in the air.

No poll needed. This decision is not up to me but Massdrop. I can only suggest.

So DSA Miami Dolch is dropping on May 1st. What about Yuri? Mid May?

Nobody knows. Not even me. Probably directly after DSA Miami Dolch or after few days. Though May is little bit unusual, since MD does only one custom keyset per month. Seems the schedule is pretty tight right now.

Thats not the truth. I am from germany and import taxes are the same as usual taxes 19%. Thus it makes no difference. The only thing you probably pay more is the international shipping.

Edit: Found out there are some EU countries with harsch custom fees (not taxes). Well hope MD will get some kind of EU proxy someday.

Yea, that's confused me in the past too - Portugal also has fairly high import taxes (not VAT), however I have not paid them for Massdrop products a single time yet (caps, keyboards, headphones, amplifiers, even watches, you name it) - in fact, I received my RAMA M10 pad last week and I didn't even pay VAT for it, more often than not the products I get sent from MD actually bypass customs due to the fact that DHL sends them to Germany first before their arrival here meaning the re-brand probably confuses our less than observant staff and they just assume it is a German package rather than American.

It's an extremely strange phenomenon, guess some other country's customs are just more competent than yours and mine.

The german customs work very well. Its not that they are lazy or missed something. Its just we got only import taxes (which are same as "Value-added" tax of 19%) and no fees. And this is how it should be everywhere.

[jihadu]

The german customs work very well. Its not that they are lazy or missed something. Its just we got only import taxes (which are same as "Value-added" tax of 19%) and no fees. And this is how it should be everywhere.
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I guess the stereotype of German efficiency is true after all.

[T0mb3ry]

I guess the stereotype of German efficiency is true after all.

Its not that they check every packeage btw incoming good. They check them randomly, because its impossible to check every package.

However every package which misses proper documents will be always checked completely. In that case you have to drive to customs show them thats inside, explain them that it is and that it is good for and after everything is cleared up, you have to pay import import taxes. Then you can take your packeage with you home.

In case the package has proper documents attached, the postal/delivery service delivers it to you door but to get it you have to pay import taxes first.

[jihadu]

I guess the stereotype of German efficiency is true after all.

Its not that they check every packeage btw incoming good. They check them randomly, because its impossible to check every package.

However every package which misses proper documents will be always checked completely. In that case you have to drive to customs show them thats inside, explain them that it is and that it is good for and after everything is cleared up, you have to pay import import taxes. Then you can take your packeage with you home.

In case the package has proper documents attached, the postal/delivery service delivers it to you door but to get it you have to pay import taxes first.

Thanks for the rundown, t0m.

[SpinahVieh]

Thats not the truth. I am from germany and import taxes are the same as usual taxes 19%. Thus it makes no difference. The only thing you probably pay more is the international shipping.

Goes for Germany, too. If it passes 150€ value you have to declare customs which adds ~10%, so you end up with a 30% increase in price.

In case the package has proper documents attached, the postal/delivery service delivers it to you door but to get it you have to pay import taxes first.

Just to add to that: Sometimes you even have to go to there when proper documents are attached, specifically when the customs office in Frankfurt is overworked. Learned that when I asked why I had to get mine myself.

[T0mb3ry]

Thats not the truth. I am from germany and import taxes are the same as usual taxes 19%. Thus it makes no difference. The only thing you probably pay more is the international shipping.

Goes for Germany, too. If it passes 150€ value you have to declare customs which adds ~10%, so you end up with a 30% increase in price.

In case the package has proper documents attached, the postal/delivery service delivers it to you door but to get it you have to pay import taxes first.

Just to add to that: Sometimes you even have to go to there when proper documents are attached, specifically when the customs office in Frankfurt is overworked. Learned that when I asked why I had to get mine myself.

Thanks for the info about the markup for > 150 valued items. Thats good to know.

[pattulus]

Same goes for Berlin. If the spot something from the US, I almost always have to go to the customers office and pay up. And if it's one of those days, you sit there for 3 hours before it's your turn. Sigh.

[Theconejo]

Would it help with anything GMK if massdrop had a proxy or something along those lines in Germany? It's silly to me that a product made there is getting shipped to the US then shipped back which then is getting taxed heavily. Seems like it could be handled in a different and better way, both for monetary reasons and for environmental reasons.

Edit: I'm sure this has been asked/purposed before and I understand this isn't really the place to talk about it but its a bit on topic with the current discussion.

[kmba]

It gets asked all the time, and I believe the answer is because gmk won't split the shipment. They ship to whoever paid and no one else.

[gnmar2723]

It gets asked all the time, and I believe the answer is because gmk won't split the shipment. They ship to whoever paid and no one else.

If only MD had an EU warehouse...

[ChitownM2]

It gets asked all the time, and I believe the answer is because gmk won't split the shipment. They ship to whoever paid and no one else.

If only MD had an EU warehouse...

It will probably never happen because it would be a huge headache for MD. MD is a U.S. based company and we have no VAT tax here so the pricing you see on the site reflects that. If they were to add a EU warehouse/proxy then you would not get the same pricing. It would be increased by the VAT which is usually the bulk of the extra costs that EU customers see. For this reason alone, MD will likely never have their own EU warehouse as they would then have to collect VAT tax and remit it to the appropriate governments. I'd have to imagine that's a huge pain in the ass they don't want to deal with since currently they don't have to collect or remit any taxes.

[hansichen]

Thats not the truth. I am from germany and import taxes are the same as usual taxes 19%. Thus it makes no difference. The only thing you probably pay more is the international shipping.

Goes for Germany, too. If it passes 150€ value you have to declare customs which adds ~10%, so you end up with a 30% increase in price.

In case the package has proper documents attached, the postal/delivery service delivers it to you door but to get it you have to pay import taxes first.

Just to add to that: Sometimes you even have to go to there when proper documents are attached, specifically when the customs office in Frankfurt is overworked. Learned that when I asked why I had to get mine myself.

Above 150€ customs are charged. For most products there are 0% custom fees. Normal fees are 1-10% and they can go up to 30-40% with several items. For keycaps these should be 0% so you don't have to pay more. If you buy clothes, some electrical products or other stuff you may pay more. There is a list at the customs website of you and to check or you can also send them a mail and ask for clarification about these fees.

[T0mb3ry]

Thats not the truth. I am from germany and import taxes are the same as usual taxes 19%. Thus it makes no difference. The only thing you probably pay more is the international shipping.

Goes for Germany, too. If it passes 150€ value you have to declare customs which adds ~10%, so you end up with a 30% increase in price.

In case the package has proper documents attached, the postal/delivery service delivers it to you door but to get it you have to pay import taxes first.

Just to add to that: Sometimes you even have to go to there when proper documents are attached, specifically when the customs office in Frankfurt is overworked. Learned that when I asked why I had to get mine myself.

Above 150€ customs are charged. For most products there are 0% custom fees. Normal fees are 1-10% and they can go up to 30-40% with several items. For keycaps these should be 0% so you don't have to pay more. If you buy clothes, some electrical products or other stuff you may pay more. There is a list at the customs website of you and to check or you can also send them a mail and ask for clarification about these fees.

Actually at customs they told me that computer parts dont have fees and have even lower import taxes. I might mix something since it was long time ago.

Anyway i think Massdrop might get someday a warehouse here in EU, since EU is a bigger market than US (US ~300mil citizens VS EU over 500mil). And i think its not actually a problem to utilize VAT in the current MD system.

[giammin]

asking for a massdrop proxy in eu is shortsighted idea, an example:

when gmk sell a keyset to US they dont have to add VAT because they are selling goods outside EU

if we had an EU proxy we will have a price higher respect to MD US price of about 22%

Yes, now we pay an higher shipping cost but they are far less then VAT mainly for high price goods like keyset or keyboard

If we are lucky the package is not intercepted by customs, otherwise we pay max about 15$ more than what we would pay if there were a MD proxy.

what IMHO would be great is to combine shipping to eu inseted of an EU proxy. an example: for my gmk carbon keyset i paid shipping 3 times (base+novelties+spacebar)

[Oblotzky]

asking for a massdrop proxy in eu is shortsighted idea, an example:

when gmk sell a keyset to US they dont have to add VAT because they are selling goods outside EU

if we had an EU proxy we will have a price higher respect to MD US price of about 22%

Yes, now we pay an higher shipping cost but they are far less then VAT mainly for high price goods like keyset or keyboard

If we are lucky the package is not intercepted by customs, otherwise we pay max about 15$ more than what we would pay if there were a MD proxy.

what IMHO would be great is to combine shipping to eu inseted of an EU proxy. an example: for my gmk carbon keyset i paid shipping 3 times (base+novelties+spacebar)

Uhm, that is not correct. GMK does not add VAT if they ship to a vendor, not because it's outside of EU. Once the vendor sells to the customer, that's when VAT is applied. And from my experience, everything from MD will go through customs. So what EU people would gain is lower shipping costs, faster shipping and no custom fees (and by fees I mean fees not VAT/tax).

We really need to make a proper wiki entry on how import/export works that we can link to whenever this topic comes up.

[giammin]

Uhm, that is not correct. GMK does not add VAT if they ship to a vendor, not because it's outside of EU. Once the vendor sells to the customer, that's when VAT is applied.

correct but then MD had to add VAT when they sell to final costumers

And from my experience, everything from MD will go through customs. So what EU people would gain is lower shipping costs, faster shipping and no custom fees (and by fees I mean fees not VAT/tax).

not in my experience. italy here

[TalkingTree]

And from my experience, everything from MD will go through customs. So what EU people would gain is lower shipping costs, faster shipping and no custom fees (and by fees I mean fees not VAT/tax).

not in my experience. italy here

I bought twice through Massdrop and both times I had to pay customs duties. I paid Italy's VAT (22%) on the declared amount (shipping included) plus a € 5,00 fee to Poste Italiane who handles the customs clearance and shipping.

[T0mb3ry]

Just for info.

I've submited all the kits to MD. As i said they are finalized.

Expect the drop in the second half of May. All kits will be available from the start.

I dont expect every kit to tip, since this will cause some kind revolution because of so many new things. But we shall see.

[Theconejo]

so excited to see it happening finally!

[packman86]

Very excited about this drop. Congratulations on the great work!

[iamtootallforthis]

Just for info.

I've submited all the kits to MD. As i said they are finalized.

Expect the drop in the second half of May. All kits will be available from the start.

I dont expect every kit to tip, since this will cause some kind revolution because of so many new things. But we shall see.

Are all the updated kits on the first page?

[stillzman]

great news, cant wait!!

[T0mb3ry]

Just for info.

I've submited all the kits to MD. As i said they are finalized.

Expect the drop in the second half of May. All kits will be available from the start.

I dont expect every kit to tip, since this will cause some kind revolution because of so many new things. But we shall see.

Are all the updated kits on the first page?

Yes all the kits on the frontpage are all up to date.

[iamtootallforthis]

Just for info.

I've submited all the kits to MD. As i said they are finalized.

Expect the drop in the second half of May. All kits will be available from the start.

I dont expect every kit to tip, since this will cause some kind revolution because of so many new things. But we shall see.

Are all the updated kits on the first page?

Yes all the kits on the frontpage are all up to date.

Cool thanks.

[gnmar2723]

This is wonderful news T0m!! 

I hope everyone else is as excited as I am for the greatest GMK set of all time 

[Jedi]

Pray for the kits to tip.  I will be in for all but ISO. 

Would you put up a poll on MD or some where here so we can tally up support for this T0mb3ry?

[ns90]

And now we play the waiting game.

[mBass]

If I had to spend all of my money on emergency spleen surgery on the day before this drops, I'd still find a way to buy this set. 

[Jedi]

If I had to spend all of my money on emergency spleen surgery on the day before this drops, I'd still find a way to buy this set. 

People also ask
Why is the spleen removed?
What does the spleen do in the human body?
Can you live without a spleen?
Technically, people can live with no kidneys, but require dialysis. Spleen: The spleen filters blood and helps the body fight infections, but it's not essential for survival.

TLDR; You'll be fine

[mBass]

People also ask
Why is the spleen removed?
What does the spleen do in the human body?
Can you live without a spleen?
Technically, people can live with no kidneys, but require dialysis. Spleen: The spleen filters blood and helps the body fight infections, but it's not essential for survival.

TLDR; You'll be fine

I've been meaning to replace my spleen with new keycaps anyway.

[Terceler]

Just for info.

I've submited all the kits to MD. As i said they are finalized.

Expect the drop in the second half of May. All kits will be available from the start.

I dont expect every kit to tip, since this will cause some kind revolution because of so many new things. But we shall see.

Congrats! I am super excited for this and will be looking out for it.

[Meitachi]

It's happening, it's actually happening! This drop cannot happen fast enough!

[dblack]

really love this color scheme.

[rioc]

awwwe yisss... this'll look so good on a matte silver SKOG 

[giammin]

I bought twice through Massdrop and both times I had to pay customs duties. I paid Italy's VAT (22%) on the declared amount (shipping included) plus a € 5,00 fee to Poste Italiane who handles the customs clearance and shipping.

I paid custom only one time on MD (5 order total) and 3 times from tens of shipping form US over the past years


I informed massdrop about their invoice which wrongly does not split shipping costs. after that the orders i received from them where correctly specified in the invoice

[kamisamamizu]

I wanted to ask you something.
Are the f and j keys on the standard ansi layout scooped? I know there are two barred ones.
In the render it seems they are scooped, but I want to be sure.

[T0mb3ry]

I wanted to ask you something.
Are the f and j keys on the standard ansi layout scooped? I know there are two barred ones.
In the render it seems they are scooped, but I want to be sure.

Every properly designed GMK keyset comes with scooped homing keys.