Why are ICs intended for massdrop now required to go into the massdrop forum?

[elfick]

The obvious solution was already in place. The vendor forums should just be for:

• If a known vendor was doing an IC for a product they would be selling on their site
• If a product hits a GB stage/gets assigned a definitive launch date for the GB

Thanks to how GH worked, it was without question the best place for IC's and thus a huge part of why it remains so popular.

Interest checks are all on the same level, in my opinion. Nothing really is set in stone, that is why it is an IC.  The active ones would stay at the top, the silly/bad/no interest ones just sank into oblivion. This also helped the community as a whole get excited about the best sets, and thus make for better community buys. GH isn't selling anything (outside of some incredible >>DEALS<<) so I don't see why where an item sells is of any concern for ICs, or GH leadership for that matter.

There is just no actual logic behind this move. Seems like a few individuals are catering the forum to meet their agenda, moderating and flexing power just for the sake of moderating and flexing power, or because leadership is just entirely out of touch with the community utilizing the site.

There is literally no way for me to agree with this more.

What will happen if someone expresses interest in running a GB on MD but their IC isn't accepted by MD and is instead run somewhere else?

Why create all the hassle and work, both for users, IC posters, and yourselves?

Please put ICs back in a single place. GB posts can go in the community GB or vendor area.

[thelaughingman]

This

The active ones would stay at the top, the silly/bad/no interest ones just sank into oblivion.

and this

There is just no actual logic behind this move. Seems like a few individuals are catering the forum to meet their agenda, moderating and flexing power just for the sake of moderating and flexing power, or because leadership is just entirely out of touch with the community utilizing the site.

[Puddsy]

The obvious solution was already in place. The vendor forums should just be for:

• If a known vendor was doing an IC for a product they would be selling on their site
• If a product hits a GB stage/gets assigned a definitive launch date for the GB

Thanks to how GH worked, it was without question the best place for IC's and thus a huge part of why it remains so popular.

Interest checks are all on the same level, in my opinion. Nothing really is set in stone, that is why it is an IC.  The active ones would stay at the top, the silly/bad/no interest ones just sank into oblivion. This also helped the community as a whole get excited about the best sets, and thus make for better community buys. GH isn't selling anything (outside of some incredible >>DEALS<<) so I don't see why where an item sells is of any concern for ICs, or GH leadership for that matter.

There is just no actual logic behind this move. Seems like a few individuals are catering the forum to meet their agenda, moderating and flexing power just for the sake of moderating and flexing power, or because leadership is just entirely out of touch with the community utilizing the site.

you know i was gonna lock this thread but now i don't regret leaving it open

this is pretty much how i feel about this too

powertripping like this is what got me removed from the GH mod team all those years ago

don't remember exactly what i did, but i do remember the word "powertripping" being thrown at me

now that i've had a few days to think about it i really don't know why this change was made even though i thought i did

[Oblotzky]

Cross posting from Pulse thread.

They did the ruling in the heat of the moment and even moved two threads (Serika and PuLSE) 6 hours prior to the moment the new rule was published. They perfectly know that Massdrop's subforum isn't prepared to handle ICs, GBs, and costumer support all at the same time and that mixing all of these topics doesn't make sense.

With that being said, I did some digging, and I expect all these threads to be moved at once to the Massdrop subforum too. These include keysets that are planned to run on Massdrop again (such as Danger Zone), have a Massdrop Poll on their OP, were done on Massdrop, or have Massdrop on the title.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91813.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91039.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88662.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89970.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88368.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88090.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74350.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71508.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90617.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88581.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89079.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75607.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88344.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90669.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85186.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75963.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90044.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85623.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88383.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76006.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83969.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87875.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87275.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85706.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79693.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84129.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74452.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79722.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72086.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77442.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75345.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73175.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73748.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73348.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73067.0

Just so it is clear, you can appreciate from many of these threads that just because you include a Massdrop poll doesn't mean that your project will be ever complete. Here there are many projects that didn't make it, and that created hours and hours of discussion that helped to improve future ICs.

[HotRoderX]

=/ sadly the lack of a response from the MOD-Team after such a outcry from the very community that makes this website great is disturbing. I think it personally points to one of several possible conclusions/outcomes.

1. The site is ran in such a way that even coming out with some sort of retort or response.. requires a congressional level of time and planning. Where things must be turned into 500 page essays that no one will read but exist for the simple fact of existing.

2. The mod Team is so fractured that there internal war going on behind the scene's over this and the possible power plays it could lead to.

3. The mod team just doesn't care is to head strong.. to think the community is capable of deciding or thinking for its self.

none of these outcomes is very positive but when left to speculate people will most likely speculate the worse possible outcomes. I think at this point its not a small minority of people wanting answers but some of the bigger names in the keyboard community.

[Photoelectric]

First of all, the "outcry from the community" is 2 not-full pages of replies, some good percent of which are moderator replies as well as posts from the same people (or their troll alt accounts).  Secondly, we are still working out the details of the transition of the IC system to something a bit more structured, so please be patient.  Thirdly, posting demands and making personal jabs and insults is unreasonable the latter is against the ToS.  We work on changes as a team, discussions take place, it's a process.  It's not our full time job, and we do have a limited number of moderators, so working out all the kinks can take some time.

We welcome constructive criticism presented in a polite manner, but unfortunately this thread has devolved to demands and insults, so it is now being locked.