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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL ** ON HOLD **
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:29:22 »
Sometimes hollow boards can sound good, and other times they sound bad. This seems to be the latter. Is the interior parallel with the plate and pcb? If it's not, that could explain the sound.

This is a cross section view of the board


The PCB and plate are parallel with the bottom case. I wonder if using a 1.2mm PCB has anything to do with it? Although I'm skeptical of how much a .3mm difference would make in terms of sound. I think the biggest factor to the sound might be because of the keycaps. I'm planning on making another typing test soon with PBT caps instead.


What plate material are you currently using with that prototype, aluminum? I honestly don't think that sounds bad.  Just an idea but, I'm curious if variances in the how "hollow" the bottom half of the case is from the inside could affect the quality of sound. Since the board has such a high angle, there is a lot more material on the bottom case to work with. If anything comes of it you could even go to try providing more of a cavity behind the alphas similar to the concept of a half-plate. Granted, there are a lot of other factors that play into sound quality such as switches, keycaps, plate, case material, etc.

FYI, I am only hearing sound out of the left channel on the video.

The plate is 1.5mm brass. I use a 'standard' 9mm distance from top of plate to bottom case. The bottom case only has a depth of 3mm. Are you saying that you think increasing this depth would improve the sound? My thinking is that that would make it sound hollower, but I don't know how sound works at all so you might be right.

Also I'll fix the video soon, I didn't catch that the audio was only on the left channel >.>
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:36:33 »

What plate material are you currently using with that prototype, aluminum? I honestly don't think that sounds bad.  Just an idea but, I'm curious if variances in the how "hollow" the bottom half of the case is from the inside could affect the quality of sound. Since the board has such a high angle, there is a lot more material on the bottom case to work with. If anything comes of it you could even go to try providing more of a cavity behind the alphas similar to the concept of a half-plate. Granted, there are a lot of other factors that play into sound quality such as switches, keycaps, plate, case material, etc.

FYI, I am only hearing sound out of the left channel on the video.

The plate is 1.5mm brass. I use a 'standard' 9mm distance from top of plate to bottom case. The bottom case only has a depth of 3mm. Are you saying that you think increasing this depth would improve the sound? My thinking is that that would make it sound hollower, but I don't know how sound works at all so you might be right.

Also I'll fix the video soon, I didn't catch that the audio was only on the left channel >.>

That is correct in what I was trying to portray. I am in no way knowledgable on sound myself either. It could very much sound hollower if the depth is increased. I was imagining more of an echo. It's just food for thought as I personally have never seen any board design to improve acoustics in such a way. Perhaps nobody has done it because it is pointless.
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:53:49 »
i want you and this

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 28 October 2019, 15:28:06 »
Finally a keyboard for my hunt-and-peck style!

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 06 November 2019, 13:19:14 »
this board sounds more hollow than my social life

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 03:54:12 »
As a cheery on top you just had to use SA caps  :))

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 10:07:33 »
this board sounds more hollow than my social life
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As a cheery on top you just had to use SA caps  :))
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 23 November 2019, 15:09:56 »
silver and i buy!!!


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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 13 January 2020, 01:43:40 »
no update? :(

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 13 January 2020, 11:01:37 »
The maker's wrists are broken so he can't type anymore :c

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:39:41 »
Hi all!

I apologize for the lack of updates.

Unfortunately I'm going to have to indefinitely put this project on hold as there are other projects I'm working on right now that I want to focus on. I will definitely come back to this project but right now I'm not sure when.

If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to send me a message!

Thanks for understanding!
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:46:08 »
Hi all!

I apologize for the lack of updates.

Unfortunately I'm going to have to indefinitely put this project on hold as there are other projects I'm working on right now that I want to focus on. I will definitely come back to this project but right now I'm not sure when.

If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to send me a message!

Thanks for understanding!
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:46:57 »
i love u biso
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 01:03:18 »
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 01:03:43 »
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 09 June 2022, 16:27:43 »
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 09 June 2022, 17:07:15 »
while ur breaking your wrist, bisoromi is breaking my back
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:08:04 »


what are those keycaps?
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:15:16 »
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what are those keycaps?

Those are SA Biso.
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:48:45 »
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what are those keycaps?

Those are SA Biso.

Aaah, right, that one, I remember. Such a nice colors, but design is crap. I wish you could pick those sets without face, just alphas in beige and dark mods.
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« Reply #70 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 04:08:04 »
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #71 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 09:04:11 »
revive this i need it now

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 10:18:42 »
"our keyboards are designed with ergonomics in mind to give you the best typing experience possible"
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 15:07:10 »
big, burly, and heavy, and high is good, but why so butt-ugly?
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 22:15:03 »
Will you take refunds if people don’t break their wrists from this…

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 22:35:53 »
hotdamn you can ski on that keyboard! glwic

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 13 June 2022, 19:41:00 »
big, burly, and heavy, and high is good, but why so butt-ugly?

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:28:43 »
big supporter please make pink

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:29:10 »
+1 for pink
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:30:11 »
+2 pink  :p

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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:43:32 »
+3 pink

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 24 June 2022, 20:26:07 »
+4 pink

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #82 on: Fri, 24 June 2022, 21:44:31 »
seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 24 June 2022, 22:46:45 »
seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

this tkl is not for the weak

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 26 June 2022, 15:21:00 »
seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

the old school solution for high angle is to put a shim under the front part of the board to flatten out the typing surface. obviously this will raise the front height.

but this is a board you buy specifically because of the high angle, because high typing angle is for chads
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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #85 on: Sun, 26 June 2022, 17:16:43 »
seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 15 July 2022, 21:15:29 »
I had a dream that I was searching on mm for SA Biso for my wristbreaker. Woke up sad cuz I don't have a wristbreaker yet. Pls gib.

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #87 on: Sat, 01 October 2022, 10:38:20 »
Is this still going to be a thing? I need it

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #88 on: Thu, 16 February 2023, 18:29:01 »
where's my wristbreaker

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Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 17 February 2023, 00:32:21 »
And I thought 11 degrees was high :))
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« Reply #90 on: Sat, 26 August 2023, 21:02:47 »
getting used with duck orions lately, i think id be ready for the 14degrees
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