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{GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea) SOLD OUT
« on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:17:02 »
Hi all,

EXTRA CLEAR TOPS FOR SALE AT 0.2 EACH. SHIPPING IS $8/100PCS

PM ME WITH YOUR FULL NAME + ADDRESS & QTY PURCHASING.

THANKS!


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This will be for the GB for clear clear switch tops, we definitely cannot hit the MOQ for the PBT sets so I'll shelve it for later, probably because Ivan just ran his PBT GB.

The clear switch covers are from Gateron - what Zeal has in stock currently.

Because my samples were delayed due to the massive logistics jam and holiday due to Chinese New Year in China, I'll have to start the GB first HAHAHA.

Tops are $0.16 each, registered mail shipping will be $10 per box of 100-200 switch tops.

I will be shipping the tops together with hwood's GB for Gateron Switches (I will look at both spreadsheets and adjust shipping accordingly).

To make my life easier, PLEASE TRY TO ORDER IN SETS OF 10, you'll need to submit a form for the GB even if you submitted one for the IC.

Here's the form for the GB: PM ME

Orders close March 12, invoicing begins Friday, 6 March


Thanks!

Clear switch covers without LED



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This interest check is for PBT blank sets (not BSP) in the dark grey & white (like the normal SP variation, like my IBM model M) (4 colours are available) and clear switch covers (not abostudio)

Price & MOQ is under discussion with the manufacturer, samples are on the way. PBT set includes standard 1.25x + 6x as well as 1.5x 1x + 7x, side stemmed stepped caps lock, centre stemmed caps lock & 1.75x shift (will need to confirm if the stepped is centre stemmed)

But as of now, it's around $31/set of PBT Blanks (hit 200) & $0.2/switch top, final will probably be lower since we can probably hit quite a bit

Shipping (registered mail AATW) estimates to be ~$5 for a set of switch top and ~$10 for caps

Kindly fill out the form to allow a better gauge of the numbers we can hit and I can negotiate better on the other end: http://goo.gl/forms/f3ZiGGs7jF


If there is enough interest, will commence GB when the samples arrive soon (within two weeks hopefully),

If I have taken anyone's picture and you would like me to credit you, kindly PM me.


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White and dark grey


White, light grey, dark grey, black


Underside of caps to show the thickness


Style like Model M caps


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Clear switch covers with LED

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:26:44 »
What profile are the blanks?

Is this white and dark gray?


Is that dark gray on the right?


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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:28:52 »
According to the manufacturer, they are in Cherry profile, but I'll prefer to verify it myself when I get the samples.

The dark grey is the one on the right in this picture



This is (from left to right) white, light grey, dark grey, black.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:45:13 »
I've been waiting for another source of clear switch tops. Interested!

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:47:43 »
I've been waiting for another source of clear switch tops. Interested!

Heard the abostudio ones have longevity issues, hopefully this one is more hardy.

Will post more pics when I get them!

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:49:12 »
According to the manufacturer, they are in Cherry profile, but I'll prefer to verify it myself when I get the samples.

The dark grey is the one on the right in this picture
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This is (from left to right) white, light grey, dark grey, black.
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Alright.  Form filled! :thumb:

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 11:29:58 »
....And the usual question, ISO?
It's a blank set so basically only a Enter-key is needed and some additional blanks.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 11:33:55 »
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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 12:26:28 »
Interested in all white. Submitted.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 14:03:27 »
+1 for both/each all at the same time
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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 16:37:30 »
....And the usual question, ISO?
It's a blank set so basically only a Enter-key is needed and some additional blanks.

I'll have to ask about ISO......shall we just assume w/o ISO kits atm first?

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 16:52:03 »
Form filled for clear switch covers.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 17:02:15 »
Form filled, Is there any QC done on clear  switch covers? I know there was an late last year but the covers were found to be to brittle and prone to breaking.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 17:20:23 »
Form filled, Is there any QC done on clear  switch covers? I know there was an late last year but the covers were found to be to brittle and prone to breaking.
There were actually two last year. The first one was apparently quite brittle but I never had any problems with the second round.
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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 22:02:15 »
I'm not going to jump on this yet.

Shadovved have you considered this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231402339096?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

If people can get stuff for under $30 shipped anywhere in the world, a group buy at $40 base price is already a non starter especially if there is no certainty of quality.
Most of the modding can be done on your own once you break through the psychological barriers.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 00:53:24 »
I'm actually in the middle of discussing with the same manufacturer as what shadovved has presented here. They do not have ISO enter molding.

They do have 6x, 6.25x and 7x spacebars however.

Apparently the manufacturer also doesn't own the tooling.

The 4 colours I was presented are slightly different as well.


The Black isn't shown in the pic, but it's present in shadovved's. I have a darker beige that's not on his pic.
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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 06:25:45 »
I'm not going to jump on this yet.

Shadovved have you considered this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231402339096?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

If people can get stuff for under $30 shipped anywhere in the world, a group buy at $40 base price is already a non starter especially if there is no certainty of quality.

Shall just say that thin PBT and thick ones are vastly different in quality. And I will give a little more insight after the sample arrives........this is an IC, not a GB yet.

AND that the $40 is not fixed, it's still in the midst of discussion and will go down (substantially?) depending on numbers :))


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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:05:56 »
If you're just doing nego now, can you help me ask how much a gigantic crap bag of random blank 1u keycaps will be? If I buy, say, 500 or 1000? As long as there's random or equal numbers of each profile that's ok. I am using labels on matrix layout, so I only need each row of blanks to be the same profile. I want lots of white ones at a cheap price because I want to dye them.

 :blank: let me announce here in this IC that I am only looking to buy 1u, so anyone who wants to buy mods and multiwides only please speak up and we can make a deal!
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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:14:37 »
If you're just doing nego now, can you help me ask how much a gigantic crap bag of random blank 1u keycaps will be? If I buy, say, 500 or 1000? As long as there's random or equal numbers of each profile that's ok. I am using labels on matrix layout, so I only need each row of blanks to be the same profile. I want lots of white ones at a cheap price because I want to dye them.

 :blank: let me announce here in this IC that I am only looking to buy 1u, so anyone who wants to buy mods and multiwides only please speak up and we can make a deal!

So, essentially you are looking for blank alphas in white? New keyboard project? ;D

I'll help you check it out, basically you want multiple alpha kits but not mods?

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:22:25 »
If you're just doing nego now, can you help me ask how much a gigantic crap bag of random blank 1u keycaps will be? If I buy, say, 500 or 1000? As long as there's random or equal numbers of each profile that's ok. I am using labels on matrix layout, so I only need each row of blanks to be the same profile. I want lots of white ones at a cheap price because I want to dye them.

 :blank: let me announce here in this IC that I am only looking to buy 1u, so anyone who wants to buy mods and multiwides only please speak up and we can make a deal!

So, essentially you are looking for blank alphas in white? New keyboard project? ;D

I'll help you check it out, basically you want multiple alpha kits but not mods?

I may be interested in modifier keys for the main section of the board, the 60% area, in black and white as well.

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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:32:49 »

So, essentially you are looking for blank alphas in white? New keyboard project? ;D

I'll help you check it out, basically you want multiple alpha kits but not mods?
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TY my dear Shadovved, that is see beh appreciated.

What I want are lots of 1u keys, white PBT, cheap. That allows me to do all kinds of dye jobs after which I'll label the keys myself. No need to be fixed as 'alpha kits' because I am not using conventional layout. I am using matrix layout so about equal numbers of each row profile are better for me. I don't really want lots of the 37-key sets that are so common on Taobao, because that means I don't get enough of the function row/ top row keys with higher profile.

That said, you not botak now meh? Aren't you supposed to be some full time NS slave?
Most of the modding can be done on your own once you break through the psychological barriers.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:41:31 »

So, essentially you are looking for blank alphas in white? New keyboard project? ;D

I'll help you check it out, basically you want multiple alpha kits but not mods?

TY my dear Shadovved, that is see beh appreciated.

What I want are lots of 1u keys, white PBT, cheap. That allows me to do all kinds of dye jobs after which I'll label the keys myself. No need to be fixed as 'alpha kits' because I am not using conventional layout. I am using matrix layout so about equal numbers of each row profile are better for me. I don't really want lots of the 37-key sets that are so common on Taobao, because that means I don't get enough of the function row/ top row keys with higher profile.

That said, you not botak now meh? Aren't you supposed to be some full time NS slave?
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Okay so.......if not random bags then sets of alpha lor......

And yes, NS now, I stay-out.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 08:01:59 »
How about I make my request more focused so easier to figure out when you're talking to the PRC makers.

1) To buy 100 1u keys of each row profile.

OR

2) To buy a crap bag of 500-1000 that has the different profiles fairly evenly distributed.

OR

3) To buy 4 sets of 104/108 keys. After which I'll just dye and sell the mods. So far everybody who has bought or received dyed keys from me has been satisfied.

Option 1 is most sought after by me.
Option 2 is what I hope will be offered at a very cheap price, so that my whole family can have fun dyeing.
Option 3 is what I suspect I will end up with if their machinery auto-sorts and packs.
Most of the modding can be done on your own once you break through the psychological barriers.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 08:04:05 »
How about I make my request more focused so easier to figure out when you're talking to the PRC makers.

1) To buy 100 1u keys of each row profile.

OR

2) To buy a crap bag of 500-1000 that has the different profiles fairly evenly distributed.

OR

3) To buy 4 sets of 104/108 keys. After which I'll just dye and sell the mods. So far everybody who has bought or received dyed keys from me has been satisfied.

Option 1 is most sought after by me.
Option 2 is what I hope will be offered at a very cheap price, so that my whole family can have fun dyeing.
Option 3 is what I suspect I will end up with if their machinery auto-sorts and packs.

Alright, will do. Keep an eye out for you (Y)


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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 17:19:19 »
I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 17:21:42 »
I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.

With shipping?

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 17:23:45 »
I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.

With shipping?
Pricing qtan told me:

65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars

shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:32:53 »
I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.

With shipping?
Pricing qtan told me:

65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars

shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.

Hm. Time to ask.

Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:35:55 »
I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.

With shipping?
Pricing qtan told me:

65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars

shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.

Hm. Time to ask.

Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
qtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing  :'(

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:38:05 »
I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.

With shipping?
Pricing qtan told me:

65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars

shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.

Hm. Time to ask.

Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
qtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing  :'(

Alrighty, see what my research comes up. The covers might come from another place.......hopefully they'll have good pricing.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:43:53 »

I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.

With shipping?
Pricing qtan told me:

65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars

shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.

Hm. Time to ask.

Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
qtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing  :'(

Alrighty, see what my research comes up. The covers might come from another place.......hopefully they'll have good pricing.
Where did you get your estimate from?

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:44:51 »

I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.

With shipping?
Pricing qtan told me:

65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars

shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.

Hm. Time to ask.

Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
qtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing  :'(

Alrighty, see what my research comes up. The covers might come from another place.......hopefully they'll have good pricing.
I got mine here
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141002.5.TjuQwj&scm=1007.10009.3949.i43135957998&id=42053980510&pvid=1666e8a9-3518-474a-82f4-4f67f5fbd20b

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks & Clear Switch Covers
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:29:11 »

I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.

With shipping?
Pricing qtan told me:

65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars

shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.

Hm. Time to ask.

Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
qtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing  :'(

Alrighty, see what my research comes up. The covers might come from another place.......hopefully they'll have good pricing.
I got mine here
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141002.5.TjuQwj&scm=1007.10009.3949.i43135957998&id=42053980510&pvid=1666e8a9-3518-474a-82f4-4f67f5fbd20b

That picture looks suspiciously similar. HAHAHA.

I've asked.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.2/pc)
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:31:12 »
Price has been changed to 0.2/pc for switch tops atm. Probably can go slightly lower.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.2/pc)
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:32:20 »
Price has been changed to 0.2/pc for switch tops atm. Probably can go slightly lower.
Great price :thumb:

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.2/ea)
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:33:47 »
Price has been changed to 0.2/pc for switch tops atm. Probably can go slightly lower.
Great price :thumb:

If anyone would like to edit their qty, just submit a new form and I'll delete the earlier one ;D

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.2/ea)
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:34:16 »
Once mine get here, I can give info about the quality & more info about them.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.2/ea)
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:36:06 »
Once mine get here, I can give info about the quality & more info about them.

Yeap, the more opinions on the quality we have, the better decisions we can make!

Thanks bro!

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea)
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:37:17 »
When are you planning to turn this into a GB?

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea)
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:40:29 »
Hopefully these don't break as easy as the ones ran before.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea)
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:43:14 »
Hopefully these don't break as easy as the ones ran before.

After my samples arrive, I'll be sending a few people who signed up in the IC, and since pwnnarwhal has got some as well, we can investigate the durability.

When are you planning to turn this into a GB?

Soon? Probably March or so. The fulfillment doesnt take long, I guess.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea)
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:44:19 »
I signed up for 1k Pieces so I'm hoping these are good indeed are we allowed to order more?

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea)
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:45:28 »
Hopefully these don't break as easy as the ones ran before.

After my samples arrive, I'll be sending a few people who signed up in the IC, and since pwnnarwhal has got some as well, we can investigate the durability.

When are you planning to turn this into a GB?

Soon? Probably March or so. The fulfillment doesnt take long, I guess.

Awesome, just in time to build my upcoming Infinity board.

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea)
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:45:37 »
I signed up for 1k Pieces so I'm hoping these are good indeed are we allowed to order more?

Eh of course. This is an IC so I set the upper boundary at 1000.

But when I turn this into GB then I'll allow text input responses for qty, but probably still in 100s or 110s to save me from counting one by one.........

Hopefully these don't break as easy as the ones ran before.

After my samples arrive, I'll be sending a few people who signed up in the IC, and since pwnnarwhal has got some as well, we can investigate the durability.

When are you planning to turn this into a GB?

Soon? Probably March or so. The fulfillment doesnt take long, I guess.

Awesome, just in time to build my upcoming Infinity board.

I expect it to reach you guys by early/mid April

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea)
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:46:36 »
Orrrrrr. You can count them 1 by 1 to show people u don't give a **** and ur a boss?

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea)
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:46:57 »
I signed up for 1k Pieces so I'm hoping these are good indeed are we allowed to order more?

Even with a 90% failure rate, you should be ok to finish of a keyboard:D

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Re: {IC} PBT Blanks ($40/set) & Clear Switch Covers ($0.20/ea)
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:47:36 »
Orrrrrr. You can count them 1 by 1 to show people u don't give a **** and ur a boss?

Eh. No :p

I'll use an electric balance for a packet of fixed covers probably.