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GMK Prepress - Launching July 15, 2020

Idea: Process Printing, Pre-print Process, CMYK Separation



This set is based on printing process that use Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black color (CMYK) as a standard recipe that is utilized in many types of printing machinery to attain diverse variation of colors in print industry. The process of prepress stage involves digital artwork being transferred to negative films for each CMYK colors and undergo several procedures until they are ready to be printed to papers or other media. Many of the text modifier legends are related to prepress and print process terms that many graphic designers or those who work in press industry are familiar with, instilled into this keycap set with mixture of CMYK accents and contrasting child kits that will visually enhance the overall looks of your keyboard.

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US: Kono Store
EU: MyKeyboards.eu
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Finalized kits; Price Updated per July 7, 2020

Base Kit
Price: $149.99

- Backspace text legend is now "Correction" instead of "Unpublished"
- Added several compatibility modifiers
- 2.00 and 1.50 shift (Mount) key removed (sorry, @rondg.), added 2.25 shift for 660 styled layout compatibility



Separation
Price: $49.99

Colored modifiers as an exclamation to CMY colors as seen in the first concept of the keyset. This is the way to go if you dig the initial concepts.



Poster Alphas
Price: $69.99

Kit that consists alternate colorway for R1 to R3 numbers/symbols and alphas and two rows of numpad



Novelties
Price: 59.99

Prepress icon novelties kit.



Tradition
Price: 34.99

**NEW KIT!** Bottom row modifiers' alternate color kit. This kit is suggested by Huey/Manofinterests (thanks, Huey!), and I, with many other people will surely appreciate these 'traditional' accents put on this set! Contains 1.00, 1.25 and 1.50 modifiers (Cut, Art text legend) as well as 2.75, 2.25 and 1.75 and 1.25 shift (Mount) keys, plus 1.00 Fn key.



Overruns
Price: $29.99

This spacebars kit includes some extra 6.25 spacebar colors (grey, cyan, yellow), along with 6.00 HHKB/styled layout as well as split bars. Sorry to say I have to cut 40s support on this set.



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Render on Satisfaction75







Kits/s75/M011Y renders by Abec13
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January 2020 Render by Kingk22 *these render may contain key/legends that are not the latest/finalized*

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Previous Kit Version & Renders on the next post

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IC Timestamp/To-do's
12/12 : Start IC post for GMK P12EP12ESS -done
12/13 : Gather IC responses via form -done
12/21 : Provide 3D Renders, adding more compability to the core kit
01/02 : Update on Extras/Child Sets, working on other renders
01/06 : Renders for Extras Sets, and 65% keyboard (KOYU)
01/20 : Contacting vendors
01/?   : Work on Deskmat Arts, Packaging Cover Arts
03/20 : Preparing to publish major changes
06/20 : Prepping/Finalizing kits
07/07 : Price quotation received, GB date set at July 15
08/07 : Asia Vendor added
15/07 : Launching of GMK Prepress!

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 02:05:17 »
Old Renders







Prepress with Poster extras on RAMAWorks KOYU Milk:







Old Core Set



Old Child Sets

Poster


Overruns


Novelties


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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 02:10:27 »
Neat idea.

Concerned about yellow over gray legibility though.


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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 02:10:39 »
Interesting concept, I'll wait for some renders to have an opinion on whether I'd be buying or not :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 02:11:37 »
this is like 50/50 burns my eyes and pure love. If you get some renders done that would help :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 02:21:19 »
If renders look great, yes

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 02:38:24 »
Not a fan of poster alpha, everything else looks good to me. Yeah, render will definitely helps.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 03:56:58 »
This looks super neat,  nice idea!

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 04:32:40 »
Hey this is nice. Bright mod legends and the alphas colour really bring the theme home for me.

Can't wait for renders :thumb:

I will say that custom mods are a cool idea but often leads to increased prices, is that why you went with a minimal base kit? Because although you have 7U and 6U spacebars, the common bottom row layouts for them with 1.5u and 1u keys aren't supported here, and aren't offered in any additional kits.
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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 04:50:38 »
If you are expecting 400 people to use an IC form you will be very dissapointed. I'm not even sure the biggest
sets get that many filled forms. Interest doesn't equal filled forms. People are lazy, especially if they don't see renders. Why would they bother?

I think it's best to take the expectations down a bit and show us some renders (there are many cheap alternatives out there).
There's really no reason not to do it.

Good luck!

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 05:13:59 »
Holy **** dude. I work as a printer on a digital press. I work in CMYK and I could use this for my work keeb. I love it
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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 05:48:58 »
Can you do CR for the mods instead of a custom black?
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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 06:46:10 »
Very cool concept! I'll be keeping my eye on this! Good luck!

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 07:08:00 »
Yeah you're not going to get 400 responses to your form. Not because your design isn't good, but because people just don't fill out forms.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 08:55:05 »
If you are expecting 400 people to use an IC form you will be very dissapointed. I'm not even sure the biggest
sets get that many filled forms. Interest doesn't equal filled forms. People are lazy, especially if they don't see renders. Why would they bother?

I think it's best to take the expectations down a bit and show us some renders (there are many cheap alternatives out there).
There's really no reason not to do it.


Logical. Will try to have renders up a.s.a.p. without waiting for 400 peeps blabla (edited on the first post).

Can you do CR for the mods instead of a custom black?

Yes sir, I very much can! Not 100% on using RAL jet black color over GMK's CR!

Thanks to all you guys beforehand, IC form is up! https://forms.gle/eGYdotWV4Dghcbta7

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 09:04:01 »
I will say that custom mods are a cool idea but often leads to increased prices, is that why you went with a minimal base kit? Because although you have 7U and 6U spacebars, the common bottom row layouts for them with 1.5u and 1u keys aren't supported here, and aren't offered in any additional kits.

Thanks! I am hoping custom text on legends won't affect much in price increase as I planned to not making it an exclusive-molded modifier set (anyone in the future can reuse it CMIIW). The common bottom row layouts for 7U and 6U and some missing tsangan modifier will be added, either on core or Overruns kit (TBA).


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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 09:38:58 »
The alphas look so very sad and dour for such an overall vibrant set.
I'd rather a paler shade of white.
Also, for the arrow keys, probably better if the down arrow is white/grey instead.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 17:31:30 »
from my partially-colorblind perspective, i like it.. but the arrow maybe you should stick to the grey color
big approval for the enter key, lol
aaannd blank is good...
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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 17 December 2019, 05:38:37 »
Text mods look fitting


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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 17 December 2019, 05:45:35 »
PM me if you want to collab on deskmats!

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 20 December 2019, 21:28:35 »
The alphas look so very sad and dour for such an overall vibrant set.
I'd rather a paler shade of white.
Also, for the arrow keys, probably better if the down arrow is white/grey instead.

Very good point on the arrows.

Text mods look fitting

Will make sure it won't look too tight on keys

from my partially-colorblind perspective, i like it.. but the arrow maybe you should stick to the grey color
big approval for the enter key, lol
aaannd blank is good...

Yes, grey color arrows legends are replacing the colored arrows.

PM me if you want to collab on deskmats!

Very much glad to! Will PM after I've upload some renders before New Year hopefully.
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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 21 December 2019, 00:08:31 »
from my partially-colorblind perspective, i like it.. but the arrow maybe you should stick to the grey color
big approval for the enter key, lol
aaannd blank is good...

Yes, grey color arrows legends are replacing the colored arrows.


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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 21 December 2019, 00:12:12 »
Renders are up!
I promise to bring more renders later, please fill out the IC form!

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 21 December 2019, 02:48:14 »
dracula vibes for sure but clean still nonetheless.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 21 December 2019, 22:54:58 »
IC filled, but might as well comment my thoughts:

  • The R4 font colors of the mods are so depressing.
  • Could colored arrow keys be considered?
  • If it’s possible to separate the numpad from the base kit that would be great.

Watching this set closely.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 23 December 2019, 07:25:55 »
Renders are up!
I promise to bring more renders later, please fill out the IC form!

I see that the new render fixes the tilde-less hash-tilde key in R3.

With that said, I still think the set would be better served with full support for English (UK) over ISO (instead of the current partial support) (perhaps even UK+US).

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 25 December 2019, 10:46:56 »
IC filled, but might as well comment my thoughts:

  • The R4 font colors of the mods are so depressing.
  • Could colored arrow keys be considered?
  • If it’s possible to separate the numpad from the base kit that would be great.

Watching this set closely.

Colored arrow keys are my initial concept (see the full blown concept image), however it turned out that uniform R4 grey colors looks better for the whole concept (subjectively speaking).
It may exist on Novelties, but IDK yet.

About numpad, For now I think i'm more inclined to include it on the Core kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 25 December 2019, 10:49:01 »
colours are quite nice, custom text legends are always cool to see. good set !
all it needs now is a good deskmat to round it all off !

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 25 December 2019, 19:16:12 »
very cool bro :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 27 December 2019, 16:26:45 »
Really nice set, would definitely buy it, but not from drop.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress CYMK Colors (Grey soon to be decided)
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 27 December 2019, 21:01:15 »
Taken from s****y iPhone Camera



Top Keycap is from GMK WoB

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Cyan: Pantone 299C
Magenta: Pantone 225C
Yellow: Pantone Yellow C
Black: GMK CR (instead of RAL 9005)
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All four looks PERFECT to me, and I tend to lock in these colors for now.

Grey: Currently still using RAL 9007, might change, but not likely.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 31 December 2019, 23:36:06 »
Interesting. Will watch this one.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 02 January 2020, 02:24:38 »
Updated 2 Jan 2020


Thanks to those who give fantastic feedbacks!
Sharing some notable feedbacks & I try my best to answer:

Please consider GMK standard black and light gray. This would make the set more appealing to be able to MX with other sets, especially since the CMY accents are so great.

> Gmk Standard Black (GMK CR) is used now :) Grey color will stay as custom color (RAL) since I'd want the grey to be distinctive among other sets that are already available, as well as to match render to the true product color if this kit is finally being made.

I would buy it if it had a NorDe compatibility kit.

> Not right now, sorry :(

escape key be magenta color instead of cyan

> Cyan is used in order to match R1 Cyan Row. However if you wish to use magenta color, I've added Magenta and Yellow R1 Escape Keys on the Poster kit!

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> Absolutely possible!





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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 00:19:30 »
Updated 6 Jan 2020


Remaining renders are finished! Hope you guys dig this set  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 01:33:06 »
nice render  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - January 6, 2020 UPDATED!
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 06:47:36 »
Renders have won me over.  :thumb:

I suggest adding a magenta accent to the base kit, like GMK Metropolis.
« Last Edit: Mon, 06 January 2020, 08:37:30 by Fredington »

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - January 6, 2020 UPDATED!
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 07:31:47 »
Dat Poster Kit 🤤

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - January 6, 2020 UPDATED!
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 11:29:55 »
cool set, would be interesting to see it matched up with LZ Black Modi

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - January 6, 2020 UPDATED!
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 23:35:57 »
Renders have won me over.  :thumb:

I suggest adding a magenta accent to the base kit, like GMK Metropolis.

Thanks, Fredington! Fingers crossed will be adding extra Cyan and/or Magenta accents onto the base kit.

cool set, would be interesting to see it matched up with LZ Black Modi

Glad you like it! I never seen LZ Black Modi before, is it the one with textless legends?

Dat Poster Kit 🤤

I know! Not for everyone's taste, but I am very much convinced it will add more vibrance especially in e-white and other color keyboard cases such as yolk, bright purple, teal and bright red.


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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - January 6, 2020 UPDATED!
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 08 January 2020, 09:08:01 »
if poster had its own base kit it would be cool :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - Color Comparison
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 16 January 2020, 23:44:45 »
Below is the comparison between GMK CMYK Modifiers and the Pantone Color Chips:



Other yellow keycaps:



My personal evaluation (please take it lightly):
- Cyan and Magenta both far different from GMK's CMYK
- Pantone Yellow C is slightly brighter(?) compared to GMK CMYK's Yellow, but the density(?) of color is slightly lesser, IMO will a lil' bit look less striking compared to GMK's Yellow.

Note: All the (?)s means that I don't have the perfect word(s) to describe it 99,99% accurate.

Meanwhile, here's my initial design of the desk mat:


Hope you guys like it!
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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - January 6, 2020 UPDATED!
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 17 January 2020, 22:01:19 »
January 18, 2020 - added Discord server:

https://discord.gg/yUzsBB

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - January 6, 2020 UPDATED!
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 19 January 2020, 16:10:55 »
I feel like Backspace needs a novelty. Maybe Crop?

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - January 6, 2020 UPDATED!
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 19 January 2020, 16:24:48 »
January 18, 2020 - added Discord server:

https://discord.gg/yUzsBB

Invalid. Is it possible to get another link?


Discord: octix#0478

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - January 6, 2020 UPDATED!
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 19 January 2020, 20:33:14 »
Invalid. Is it possible to get another link?

Sry about that, updated: https://discord.gg/gHvPPCY

I feel like Backspace needs a novelty. Maybe Crop?

Thanks for the input! Will try to tweak a novelty for Backspace and see how it goes!

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - Vendors Contacted. More renders to come later!
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 12 February 2020, 23:57:28 »
I like it

Any plans to do standard icon/text legends on modifiers?

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - MAJOR Revisions Mar 10, 2020
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 06:37:17 »
Update: Major Revisions on colors (Using RAL colors now), and base kit changes to prevent high price due to custom colors and custom molds on text modifiers.

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - MAJOR Revisions Mar 10, 2020
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 07:46:11 »
I want an esc key that is same color with mods...

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - MAJOR Revisions Mar 10, 2020
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 07:55:36 »
Just to confirm, there is a 1.5u "Mount" key?

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Re: [IC] GMK Prepress - MAJOR Revisions Mar 10, 2020
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 08:23:45 »
I want an esc key that is same color with mods...

Noted

Just to confirm, there is a 1.5u "Mount" key?

Yes there is After consulting w/ experienced GB runner, I decided to remove 1.50 and 2.00 shift and adding 2.25 instead :(



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