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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #200 on: Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:50:25 »
When should the clear switch tops ship roughly?

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« Reply #201 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 04:29:31 »
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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #202 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 04:40:45 »
Just ordered 200 of these. Now for some boards to put them on. :D

Now that's the GH spirit right there! :thumb:

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #203 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 07:32:07 »
Ordered :)

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #204 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:49:39 »
Shadovved

Surprised to see so much has changed in the few days since I was last here.

Can I check with you the following:

1) what is the MOQ of the PBT sets?
2) how many more sets do we need to buy to reach MOQ? EG if it's just 10 sets I can try helping everyone by buying the lot
3) is it possible to buy the crap bags still even if PBT moq is not met? Eg I could buy that 1000 1u bag, and for what price then?
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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #205 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:54:17 »
When should the clear switch tops ship roughly?

It'll ship together with the gateron switch GB. Looking at end-March shipping out, may be slightly longer if I take longer to pack, I'll ship as I go.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #206 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:59:11 »
Shadovved

Surprised to see so much has changed in the few days since I was last here.

Can I check with you the following:

1) what is the MOQ of the PBT sets?
2) how many more sets do we need to buy to reach MOQ? EG if it's just 10 sets I can try helping everyone by buying the lot
3) is it possible to buy the crap bags still even if PBT moq is not met? Eg I could buy that 1000 1u bag, and for what price then?


1,2) We need at least 160 more sets, we have around 90 now.
3) I have PMed you on this matter before. Yes, you can buy a thousand loose keys even without the GB. However, nothing has changed since our last discussion, the price for the crap bag remains as it is, there's nothing I can do to help you if you think it's too expensive.........

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #207 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 11:08:21 »
Not to be negative, but I'm wondering if there are any problems with these tops, as I've heard that they're not the best. Would anyone care to elaborate and/or correct me?

Thanks

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #208 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 11:11:18 »
Not to be negative, but I'm wondering if there are any problems with these tops, as I've heard that they're not the best. Would anyone care to elaborate and/or correct me?

Thanks

Has anyone actually used these? The previous clear switch tops buys were abostudio products, these are different.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #209 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 11:14:02 »
Not to be negative, but I'm wondering if there are any problems with these tops, as I've heard that they're not the best. Would anyone care to elaborate and/or correct me?

Thanks

Has anyone actually used these? The previous clear switch tops buys were abostudio products, these are different.

DrhubblePHD has reviewed these tops, so has Zeal. But I guess more people will be receiving their switch covers from Zeal soon..........so we should have opinions coming.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #210 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 22:46:42 »
I've got questions on whether these will fit on gateron switches or Cherry switches.

The clear tops will fit both :thumb:

Hope this clarifies something

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #211 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 22:48:04 »
Order sent.  :thumb:

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #212 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:53:51 »
Shadovved, did you realize what you were getting yourself into when you signed up for this job?

Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!

Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!

I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #213 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:55:04 »
The PBT caps were dropped, didn't them?

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #214 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:01:54 »
Shadovved, did you realize what you were getting yourself into when you signed up for this job?

Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!

Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!

I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.
PBT caps will be at a later time

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #215 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:11:00 »
Shadovved, did you realize what you were getting yourself into when you signed up for this job?

Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!

Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!

I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.

Yeap, I dropped the PBT caps due to low interest, possible because a GB just ended.

And no, I doubt it'll kill me to sort some switches, it's gonna take more than that :))

I might take a little longer to sort all packages if the volume is overwhelming, but I'll ship as I go.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #216 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:13:21 »
Shadovved, did you realize what you were getting yourself into when you signed up for this job?

Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!

Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!

I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.

Yeap, I dropped the PBT caps due to low interest, possible because a GB just ended.

And no, I doubt it'll kill me to sort some switches, it's gonna take more than that :))

I might take a little longer to sort all packages if the volume is overwhelming, but I'll ship as I go.
I assume 1 or 2 people have contributed multiple thousand, hopefully Gateron ships them in a organized way.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #217 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:25:02 »
Shadovved, did you realize what you were getting yourself into when you signed up for this job?

Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!

Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!

I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.

Yeap, I dropped the PBT caps due to low interest, possible because a GB just ended.

And no, I doubt it'll kill me to sort some switches, it's gonna take more than that :))

I might take a little longer to sort all packages if the volume is overwhelming, but I'll ship as I go.
I assume 1 or 2 people have contributed multiple thousand, hopefully Gateron ships them in a organized way.

Yea, I'm expecting bags of a few hundreds. But either way, an electronic balance helps loads :p

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #218 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:08:39 »
In for 100!

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #219 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:10:06 »
An update on the total quantity already ordered would be interesting.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #220 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:29:10 »
An update on the total quantity already ordered would be interesting.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #221 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:30:28 »
I can vouch for these switch tops, the random ones I got off of TaoBao were in fact Gateron, and they are excellent.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #222 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:07:56 »
Wait, so are the clear switch tops only compatible with Gateron switches? Or do they work for Cherry MX too?

Too bad Gateron does not make an equivalent of MX Clears.

EDIT: I read Shadovved's post. Im in for sure! Gotta decide on 100 or 200 :D
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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #223 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:09:43 »
Wait, so are the clear switch tops only compatible with Gateron switches? Or do they work for Cherry MX too?

Too bad Gateron does not make an equivalent of MX Clears.
They work for both

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #224 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 21:59:12 »
Gentle reminder to those who filled up the IC form, you'll need to submit a form for the GB even if you submitted one for the IC.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #225 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 08:38:44 »
Gentle reminder to those who filled up the IC form, you'll need to submit a form for the GB even if you submitted one for the IC.
I submitted for the PBT caps and not the clear top. I'll wait for the dedicated GB.

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« Reply #226 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 11:41:20 »
Gentle reminder to those who filled up the IC form, you'll need to submit a form for the GB even if you submitted one for the IC.
I submitted for the PBT caps and not the clear top. I'll wait for the dedicated GB.

I'm in the same boat.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #227 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 14:04:17 »
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant.  Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.

Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?
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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #228 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:15:13 »
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant.  Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.

Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?


They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #229 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:28:33 »
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant.  Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.

Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?


They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

They share the same molds? I'm interested in learning more, do you have a reference?

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« Reply #230 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:32:13 »
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant.  Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.

Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?


They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

They share the same molds? I'm interested in learning more, do you have a reference?


Scale economy is the reference, a plastic molding company does not pay for redundant tooling.

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« Reply #231 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:38:45 »
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant.  Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.

Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?


They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

They share the same molds? I'm interested in learning more, do you have a reference?


Scale economy is the reference, a plastic molding company does not pay for redundant tooling.


OK. They have different logos on them, so I would have assumed different molds. My experience with the clear tops is that they definitely have a different fit, tighter and narrower clearance. I thought reading up on the mold sourcing might inform me about the different experience I'm having with them.

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« Reply #232 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:44:19 »
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant.  Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.

Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?


They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

They share the same molds? I'm interested in learning more, do you have a reference?


Scale economy is the reference, a plastic molding company does not pay for redundant tooling.


OK. They have different logos on them, so I would have assumed different molds. My experience with the clear tops is that they definitely have a different fit, tighter and narrower clearance. I thought reading up on the mold sourcing might inform me about the different experience I'm having with them.


The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.

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« Reply #233 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:54:18 »
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.

Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #234 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:56:12 »
Wait. .... why am I buying things that I don't need !? ... Darn you GH!

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« Reply #235 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:22:01 »
Wait. .... why am I buying things that I don't need !? ... Darn you GH!


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« Reply #236 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:11:56 »
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.

Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.


It is an educated guess, education learned over some years working in manufacturing.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #237 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:24:51 »
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.

Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.


It is an educated guess, education learned over some years working in manufacturing.

The 0 wobble is for the clear switch tops.

Take a look at DrhubblePHD's review.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68955.0

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #238 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:26:57 »
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant.  Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.

Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?

The 0.16 is according to numbers I got from the IC, which is around 17k. We currently have around 9k. So there are still quite some people who have not ordered.

Prices might be slightly adjusted if we don't have at least 15k, that's why I'm asking those who have submitted in the IC for switch tops to submit their entry for the GB too :(

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #239 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:38:47 »
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.

Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.


It is an educated guess, education learned over some years working in manufacturing.

The 0 wobble is for the clear switch tops.

Take a look at DrhubblePHD's review.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68955.0

Right, I've found that the clear tops have zero wobble as well (I previously commented in the thread you linked). I was just intrigued by Ideus's claim that both Gateron and Cherry share the same production molds despite the fit and tolerance differences I have experienced with the Gateron tops. Given his matter of fact tone in his response to swill, I thought he might have some further information.

I did encounter some minor issues with the fit of these tops, but nothing a little dremelling couldn't fix. Overall, I think they are really nice and am looking forward to hearing other's opinions one they receive them.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #240 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:59:34 »
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.

The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.

Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.


It is an educated guess, education learned over some years working in manufacturing.

The 0 wobble is for the clear switch tops.

Take a look at DrhubblePHD's review.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68955.0

Right, I've found that the clear tops have zero wobble as well (I previously commented in the thread you linked). I was just intrigued by Ideus's claim that both Gateron and Cherry share the same production molds despite the fit and tolerance differences I have experienced with the Gateron tops. Given his matter of fact tone in his response to swill, I thought he might have some further information.

I did encounter some minor issues with the fit of these tops, but nothing a little dremelling couldn't fix. Overall, I think they are really nice and am looking forward to hearing other's opinions one they receive them.


Just for the records: I did not mention Cherry ever. Gateron transparent tops may use the same molds than those translucent tops, the ones used in Gateron switches. Same factory, same molds for the same part made of different materials, transparent and translucent. Cherry factory is miles far from Gateron's.
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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #241 on: Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:01:15 »
Will you ship the tops combined with Gateron switches if we ordered them?
If so, do we need to pay the shipping twice?
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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #242 on: Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:08:48 »
Will you ship the tops combined with Gateron switches if we ordered them?
If so, do we need to pay the shipping twice?

I am doing the invoicing and fulfillment on both sides, I will adjust your shipping according to what you ordered on both sides in one invoice :thumb:

And yes, the fulfillment is together

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #243 on: Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:29:23 »
Will you ship the tops combined with Gateron switches if we ordered them?
If so, do we need to pay the shipping twice?

I am doing the invoicing and fulfillment on both sides, I will adjust your shipping according to what you ordered on both sides in one invoice :thumb:

And yes, the fulfillment is together

So its 10$ per 200 switches/tops?
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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #244 on: Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:09:52 »
Will you ship the tops combined with Gateron switches if we ordered them?
If so, do we need to pay the shipping twice?

I am doing the invoicing and fulfillment on both sides, I will adjust your shipping according to what you ordered on both sides in one invoice :thumb:

And yes, the fulfillment is together

So its 10$ per 200 switches/tops?

Around there yes, 200 tops, but probably not 200 switches, since switches weigh more.


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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #245 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:06:37 »
Has the MOQ been reached for this GB?

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #246 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 05:28:55 »
Has the MOQ been reached for this GB?

We have reached the MOQ, but not yet for the price for the GB, because the price in the GB is taken from numbers from the IC.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #247 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:16:06 »
Has the MOQ been reached for this GB?

We have reached the MOQ, but not yet for the price for the GB, because the price in the GB is taken from numbers from the IC.


To know the numbers would be very good for the people that joined.

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #248 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 14:15:43 »
I just submitted an order for 210 tops (enough for 2 63s and 1 75). How's the shipping for the 10 over 200?

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Re: {GB} Clear Switch Covers ($0.16/ea)
« Reply #249 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 22:54:12 »
Order in. Thanks for running this GB, super stoked!  :thumb:
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