GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)

[Loligagger]

Do you have a second batch of 61 whites? I'll trade you stems if so

I just have the 61 I pulled out of my poker and temporarily replaced with clears until the gh60 arrives. Found out that I like clears a lot more than whites once I did so. I would like to try ergo clears though.

[Jocelyn]

Do you have a second batch of 61 whites? I'll trade you stems if so

I just have the 61 I pulled out of my poker and temporarily replaced with clears until the gh60 arrives. Found out that I like clears a lot more than whites once I did so. I would like to try ergo clears though.

By all means, see if WFD wants them first (he'll have clears to trade you soon). I'm sure he's going to want them, but I'll take them if he doesn't lol.

PS - I also have clears I can trade, but I'd rather see WFD get his whites first

[Dubsgalore]

JD i just sent you a massive pm...sorry for the length and amount of questions...my mind is full of fug

[MKULTRA]

GH60 MX Lock compatible?

[metalliqaz]

MX lock fits into the same footprint as the rest of MX... you mean the software?  The software is fully configurable

[MKULTRA]

Hmmm I should try to get some from 7bit.

[WhiteFireDragon]

MX lock is ok for any key EXCEPT capslock, in case that's what you were thinking. The key presses for capslock doesn't work exactly the same way as any other key.

[samwisekoi]

MX lock is ok for any key EXCEPT capslock, in case that's what you were thinking. The key presses for capslock doesn't work exactly the same way as any other key.

I am going to try them out as the Fn keyswitch, since that is a key that works on key-down events and could be useful if it stays down for the WASD arrows on a Poker.  (It might also turn out to be completely annoying!)

It is really too bad the logic of Caps Lock gets all twisted around if you try to use a lock switch, since on the old typewriters and even some terminals that was exactly how they worked.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

[metalliqaz]

With the appropriate firmware, it could happen

[Dubsgalore]

how would one type with an all mx lock board? 

[MKULTRA]

how would one type with an all mx lock board? 

Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

[fl0w3n]

I ordered the Universal Plates...but now today after dealing with my first PCB mount Cherry Stabs on this WYSE board I was desoldering...I'm unsure about them

[WhiteFireDragon]

Stabilizers aren't something that needs to be installed more than once, unlike keycaps. But you're right, for whatever reason you need to take them off, PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers are the hardest out of the 3 types if you have a plate on there. Desoldering is no fun either.

[tjcaustin]

how would one type with an all mx lock board? 

Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.

[MKULTRA]

Yeah I guess you could do two shifts and throw a lock on one eh?

[classicps]

I ordered one for now!

[Dubsgalore]

how would one type with an all mx lock board? 

Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.

actually a decent idea for an hhkb layout on the right shift

[7bit]

MX lock is ok for any key EXCEPT capslock, in case that's what you were thinking. The key presses for capslock doesn't work exactly the same way as any other key.

I am going to try them out as the Fn keyswitch, since that is a key that works on key-down events and could be useful if it stays down for the WASD arrows on a Poker.  (It might also turn out to be completely annoying!)

It is really too bad the logic of Caps Lock gets all twisted around if you try to use a lock switch, since on the old typewriters and even some terminals that was exactly how they worked.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

It should be possible to program the correct logic into the controller software.

If Caps Lock is down, send a signal to the computer once and then keep silent until the status changes to "Caps Lock up".

Another way would be to use Shift or program the complete logic Caps Lock has in the computer into the controller software ...

[cusx]

hmm, I've got a few questions:

1) Are casing sold separately from this thread or from this thread ? I really like the CNC casing, but I think it's completely sold.

2) As someone who has never soldered anything before, is it possible for someone like me to assemble the keyboard ? Just soldering the switches and stuff, not the smt.

Thanks !

[Halverson]

hmm, I've got a few questions:

1) Are casing sold separately from this thread or from this thread ? I really like the CNC casing, but I think it's completely sold.

2) As someone who has never soldered anything before, is it possible for someone like me to assemble the keyboard ? Just soldering the switches and stuff, not the smt.

Thanks !

1-yes they are. In the OP, you will see a list of cases and links where to get them

2-yes! It's not hard, just read up a bit, ask questions, and you'll be good!

[cyberwave]

if i wanted to build a 'Samwisekoi' layout  but with 2.25x L-shift, i'd have to get a universal plate?

[fl0w3n]

Stabilizers aren't something that needs to be installed more than once, unlike keycaps. But you're right, for whatever reason you need to take them off, PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers are the hardest out of the 3 types if you have a plate on there. Desoldering is no fun either.

Ducky dk-1087 uses PCB mount cherry stabilizers right?

I'm just worried about sacrificing a solid rigid feel to the key presses by going with them.

[samwisekoi]

how would one type with an all mx lock board? 

Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.

actually a decent idea for an hhkb layout on the right shift

Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

[mkaito]

how would one type with an all mx lock board? 

Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.

actually a decent idea for an hhkb layout on the right shift

Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

... or you could use your pinky fingers.

[samwisekoi]

how would one type with an all mx lock board? 

Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.

actually a decent idea for an hhkb layout on the right shift

Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

... or you could use your pinky fingers.

Or that.

[Dubsgalore]

you could use your pinkey fingers yea

but meh probably won't get one haha

[osxoep]

Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I tried it and everything was still shifted...

[mkaito]

Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I tried it and everything was still shifted...

Depends on how the OS handles the keyup event. My guess is that Windows would unshift as described. I'm on Linux, and it doesn't unshift if I hold one shift, then press and release the other.

[whiskytango]

Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I tried it and everything was still shifted...

Depends on how the OS handles the keyup event. My guess is that Windows would unshift as described. I'm on Linux, and it doesn't unshift if I hold one shift, then press and release the other.

Yeah, I just tried this on Win 7 32 bit machine using QFR and a Rosewill 9000 and it did not un-shift. Not sure why this wouldn't work?? I'm also looking for something cool to do with my 2 mx locks

[IvanIvanovich]

I have lock on my right shift, when engaged it is shifted. Pressing the other shift does not cause lower case.

[Glissant]

Windows 8 does not "unshift" on my GH60. Works perfectly fine on my Poker too. I don't feel the need to check my Filcos.

I'm starting to wonder if I made the right plate choices. Hmmm...

[jdcarpe]

I'm starting to wonder if I made the right plate choices. Hmmm...

Just order MOAR! You can get more plates than PCBs if you want...

[esoomenona]

Or you can get more PCBs than plates!

[Glissant]

Or I could get more of both! I'm trying to avoid having to desolder anything once it's done . Desoldering is a PITA.

[esoomenona]

If you went PCB mount, you would only have to desolder a minimal amount of switches to switch layouts.

[komar007]

Attention everybody. The price of GH60 assembled PCB goes down to $30. WFD, could you update the op, please?

[fl0w3n]

Fantastic news!

Maybe that means 1 more for only $20 more than I already budgeted...

[aggiejy]

Attention everybody. The price of GH60 assembled PCB goes down to $30. WFD, could you update the op, please?

I don't suppose the DIY goes down a little too? Or is this just an assembly efficiency?

[esoomenona]

WOOOOOOoooooooo0o0oOOo00oo00oOOO0o00oooo

[Glissant]

Well that makes it a whole lot easier to add another PCB and plate . I'll do that tomorrow!

[MKULTRA]

Good news!  Savin me some money.

[Halverson]

Only $5 more for predone SMD hell? I'll have to change my order!

[ter_]

I ordered one but How do I know my order went through?

[komar007]

I ordered one but How do I know my order went through?

It did.

[komar007]

Only $5 more for predone SMD hell? I'll have to change my order!

The DIY prices will hopefully go down as well, though everybody who orders them has to understand that these boards were designed for automatic assembly and you do need at least some experience and hardware to solder them correctly.
WFD and me are currently estimating the cost of parts (checking Europe and America).

There have been suggestions to enlarge the pads for X1, but I'm not really keen on this idea. I'm using recommended land patterns. Enlarging them together with solder paste layer means more solder and possibly solder blobs, enlarging keeping the solder paste as it was means solder pouring over the whole larger pad and potentially not enough to mount the part well. Except for that, this is the most sensitive area of the board, so the less exposed conductor the better.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Attention everybody. The price of GH60 assembled PCB goes down to $30.

I don't suppose the DIY goes down a little too? Or is this just an assembly efficiency?

It could go down just a tad. We're sourcing the cheapest parts from the US and Europe for the DIY kit. I'm composing the BoM for the SMD components this evening.

[Binge]

Would it be possible to update the OP with all of the new info?  Thanks for all your hard work guys!

[Dubsgalore]

i can order two now!!! 

[Winther]

dang.. just changed my order to one PCB instead of the two I originally ordered, and then I find out its gone down in price..

If I change my order again, do you guys think it would be easy to sell one (PCB or maybe with switches..) if I decide I only need one efter getting the board?

[Tarzan]

dang.. just changed my order to one PCB instead of the two I originally ordered, and then I find out its gone down in price..

If I change my order again, do you guys think it would be easy to sell one (PCB or maybe with switches..) if I decide I only need one efter getting the board?

Yes.