[IC] [Art Print] 4C "Cherry" Poster Art

[hydrospell]

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Hi everyone!

I'm a graphic designer and general keyboard nut with 4 keyboards, one of them being #endgame HHKB 1 (courtesy of Hasu who sold it to me at a damn good price)

Have also been benefiting a lot from GH, learning how to solder, hand-wire, flashing Teensies, the whole lot. Always felt like a 'consumer' here just taking in all this stuff all the while. That is, till the moment I saw CPTBadAss' Tactile zine project about a week ago, it occurred to me that I can put my training/skills to use here too.

Which comes to the 'graphic design' part. I would like to create a 4-colour silkscreen print of some #notendgame Cherry MX switches. Here's a pic:



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The trick or 'concept' behind this is that with 4 colours, I can layer 4 prints on top of each other to form the final image. Of course, the 4 colours are red, green, blue and brown which are the 4 MX switch colours.

(sorry I can't do black - it will block out the other colours!)
 
If you have ever taken coloured acrylics sheets and put them on top of each other, and see the colours layer to form a deeper colour, that's the idea but with ink.

So I would make 4 templates, and print them onto the same piece of paper, like this:



This is hand drawn, so you would get a really analog look like the detail crop of this mockup:




With this Interest Check, I would like to find out:
Please copy and paste these, and reply with your answer to each question, if interested

1) Would you buy this poster? [yes][no]
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [below $25][$25-$45][$45-$60][$above $60]
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45][$45-$60][$60-$75][$above $75]
4) Where are you based? [your country] (this is so I can find out what it's gonna cost to ship this to you in a cardboard tube)
5) I want to add a hand-lettered title on this poster too. It will be to the bottom of the four switch images. What should it say? [Geekhack][Cherry Blossom][suggest something]
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Closing Notes

If there is enough interest, I would then determine what's the best size to print these at (based on average price people want to pay and how many people are interested) and check out how much the screens would cost to make. I think we want at least A3 (297mm x 420mm), otherwise there wouldn't be a point to this poster (too small). I will get the screens made and hand-screen these myself.

The other thing is, if there is enough interest, I will produce a small scale try out by making test screens and buying the correct inks and papers to do a small test run. This is to show how the colours will turn out. The above pics are digital mock-ups, so the real prints will definitely look very different.

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Thanks for your time!

[hydrospell]

First Interest Check, so I'm probably missing out on ten thousand essential facts to tell your audience before you post an IC. Please ask questions too and I'll happily answer them.


FAQ Time

What print size and price would this likely be?
Most likely 35cm x 40cm, and most likely USD35 per print which includes surface shipping (6-8 weeks 10 working days from SG to US, according to initial estimate by post office. I'll update for sure when I ship the first poster).
Option to upgrade to expedited shipping at extra cost if desired.


How did you arrive at $35 per piece? What's the cost associated with making this happen?
Going to keep this super transparent, here's the math:

My upfront fixed cost will be test print (I'll first make 4 small screens to try and print with, to see if the overprinting effect works and to get the colours right). Second fixed cost is the actual set of 4 screens and ink/paper costs. This works out to be around $376 (500SGD).
With each piece selling at $35, I will have to sell 16 pieces before I break even.
At 50 pieces I will make $697 profit, but I consider this labour cost really, and this is assuming best outcome of 50 pcs all sold out.

So I'd hedge a bit and say 20 pcs is my break even point.


Print run?
First run will be 50 pieces. Each piece will be numbered and signed by me.

What ink and paper?
I will be using Speedball silkscreen printing ink for all 4 colours.

I will be checking out paper available to me in Singapore, but generally we have quite a good selection at the store. Looking at uncoated cream paper at 200-300gsm weight. Coconut has suggested BFK Rives or Stonehenge paper which I will check availability of in Singapore.

Can I have this bigger, say a 100cm square poster?
Checking with printers I work with. This will not be silkscreen printing, rather it will be spot colour offset or digital offset, so the effect is not as "analog" as screen printed pieces. I would still want these to be printed on nice paper stock though. Note likely at this point as MOQ will be quite high for this to be feasible at all.

Any other questions please post here or PM me. Thanks!

[Halverson]

1-Yes
2 and 3-Either way, around $50 shipped(just noticed you are in Singapore, so obviously shipping would be more. Would try to buy a few/proxy a tube to save on shipping)
4-Canada
5-Cherry peasants(topre is life) nah, I dunno

I'm really into silk screened posters on nice paper. As for size, looks quite square to me. Could always do a simple 30cmX30cm? Honestly, bigger is better for me, but I don't know if the image would look worse at a bigger size. If you could do a huge 90x90cm I would rock that as well(damn the frame cost though!).

As for questions:
What types of paper do you have access to?
Maybe you could do four prints instead of one big one, depending on interest.
I'm really into the four templates, even that on a print would be great.
ps-I love me some test prints

Oh and I also wanted to say, I like the hand drawn style 

[hydrospell]

Thanks for the reply! So relieved!  )

Looks square - yeah, except if I add a title at the bottom it'll be sliightly taller than it is wide. Ideally I'd like to do something around 50cm x (height), which is a nice poster size for hanging on walls in my opinion. But it boils down to how much money we aim to throw at this - a screen A3 size is around $40-50, and we need 4.

As for your questions:

1) Paper - I will mainly source from this shop http://www.fancypapers.com/html/products-text-cover.html here in Singapore. They carry a wide range of stuff. I'm most probably going for uncoated cream stock, 200-300gsm.

2) 4 prints instead of 1 big one - but I feel this defeats the point of having 4 colours We'll see, maybe I can do small batch of giclee prints if small prints are more popular.

3) the four templates - interest noted!

4) test prints - will definitely do some, upload and will throw some in for you if we can get enough interest + into production! Fingers crossed!

5) Thank you, I love the hand drawn stuff too

[absyrd]

I've taken many printing classes and had a home setup for a while. I like what you are doing, for sure. Too bad I dumped all my cherry stuff in January.

200-300gsm is heavy. Good choice. Deckle or no?

No giclee! Please no! People don't know these are just inkjets basically. Don't dish out an inferior product with such a sleek design that lends itself to a nice screenprint!

You are the artist. You pick the layout. You pick the name.

I do, however, agree with Halv that you need to pick a size that people can afford to frame easily. Perhaps 12 x 12" each so they can buy premade record sleeve frames?

And damn Halverson for already having dibs on APs.

[hydrospell]

You don't need to own cherry switches to own a cherry print #justsayin

What is a deckle? Sorry, I am not familiar with that term. Silkscreen on thick paper is my fav!

No giclee - disinterest noted! I meant it more like in addition, and smaller sized prints (think postcards).

I will think of the title then.

Thanks for the note on the frame, that makes sense. In that case 30cm is actually quite big. I was thinking more of a wheat paste type of thing but that doesn't work with 300 gsm paper obviously, and people wouldn't wheat paste their house walls. Blame it on the late hour... But really, thanks for bringing up the framing.

What are APs? If you mean the test prints, I'm sure I'm doing more than one test print...

Thanks absyrd for your reply.

[absyrd]

You don't need to own cherry switches to own a cherry print #justsayin

What is a deckle? Sorry, I am not familiar with that term. Silkscreen on thick paper is my fav!

No giclee - disinterest noted! I meant it more like in addition, and smaller sized prints (think postcards).

I will think of the title then.

Thanks for the note on the frame, that makes sense. In that case 30cm is actually quite big. I was thinking more of a wheat paste type of thing but that doesn't work with 300 gsm paper obviously, and people wouldn't wheat paste their house walls. Blame it on the late hour... But really, thanks for bringing up the framing.

What are APs? If you mean the test prints, I'm sure I'm doing more than one test print...

Thanks absyrd for your reply.

I may buy one depending on price and shipping. My walls are so packed with my own artwork from over the years that I don't really have space.

Deckled edge is like torn/rough edge. It looks nice if you float frame it or don't have a mat over the edges (as it would be if it was just 12x12" in a cheap frame)

AP = Artist's Proof... so, yeah, test prints often in differing colors than final product


No need to thank me. I think what you are doing is awesome.

[hydrospell]

Nice! Do you have a portfolio site or something I can check out?

Deckled edge - probably depends on type of paper I end up getting for these more than anything. Will have to see!

AP - got it!

[absyrd]

Nice! Do you have a portfolio site or something I can check out?

Deckled edge - probably depends on type of paper I end up getting for these more than anything. Will have to see!

AP - got it!

I have always done my art for therapeutic reasons, and all of it very abstract (hence why I needed graphic design help recently). Never sold a thing. Only had the testes to give a couple away to close friends.

I think your drawings are great and will make a great print. I hope more people see this thread. Perhaps put a link in your sig?

[sethk_]

1) Would you buy this poster? [yes][no]
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [below $25][$25-$45][$45-$60][$above $60]
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45][$45-$60][$60-$75][$above $75]
4) Where are you based? [your country] (this is so I can find out what it's gonna cost to ship this to you in a cardboard tube)
5) I want to add a hand-lettered title on this poster too. It will be to the bottom of the four switch images. What should it say? [Geekhack][Cherry Blossom][suggest something]


1. I would buy this poster
2. Ideally 15-20, but I would pay up to ~30
3. Same price if they were limited
4. USA
5. I think "Geekhack" would look best on the bottom

[Halverson]

Good choice on the paper! I recently passed on a cream paper print for a mint green, need me some cream!

I also agree on no giclee! Not terrible, but not for this piece for sure.

In regard to "geekhack" at the bottom, just seems wrong since this site is so much more. More like "Cherries".

How many prints would you need to do to make this feasible?

Lastly, would you be willing to hand number and sign these if you do a small limited run?

[absyrd]

Good choice on the paper! I recently passed on a cream paper print for a mint green, need me some cream!

I also agree on no giclee! Not terrible, but not for this piece for sure.

In regard to "geekhack" at the bottom, just seems wrong since this site is so much more. More like "Cherries".

How many prints would you need to do to make this feasible?

Lastly, would you be willing to hand number and sign these if you do a small limited run?

Good questions. Are you hand-pulling these yourself or sending it off?

And definitely sign and number like any print. Any APs just write AP on bottom. It'll make Halv feel extra special when he gets one.

[Halverson]

Good choice on the paper! I recently passed on a cream paper print for a mint green, need me some cream!

I also agree on no giclee! Not terrible, but not for this piece for sure.

In regard to "geekhack" at the bottom, just seems wrong since this site is so much more. More like "Cherries".

How many prints would you need to do to make this feasible?

Lastly, would you be willing to hand number and sign these if you do a small limited run?

Good questions. Are you hand-pulling these yourself or sending it off?

And definitely sign and number like any print. Any APs just write AP on bottom. It'll make Halv feel extra special when he gets one.

Ima get you one as well if these happen, errr WHEN these happen.

Oh, hand pulled, good thought! I really want to try it myself.

[absyrd]

Ima get you one as well if these happen, errr WHEN these happen.

Oh, hand pulled, good thought! I really want to try it myself.

If you have a local community college, I'd definitely recommend taking a printmaking class. The wife and I took one together for cheap and learned etching, engraving, linocut, lithography, screen printing and more just in our first semester. We made so much art for our walls that it was worth the money alone for that. Tons of fun. Also makes you appreciate the great artists out there.

We subsequently took the 2nd level and then repeated 5 or so times just to use the equipment. Then we set up a screenprinting room in the basement for a while.

[Halverson]

Ima get you one as well if these happen, errr WHEN these happen.

Oh, hand pulled, good thought! I really want to try it myself.

If you have a local community college, I'd definitely recommend taking a printmaking class. The wife and I took one together for cheap and learned etching, engraving, linocut, lithography, screen printing and more just in our first semester. We made so much art for our walls that it was worth the money alone for that. Tons of fun. Also makes you appreciate the great artists out there.

We subsequently took the 2nd level and then repeated 5 or so times just to use the equipment. Then we set up a screenprinting room in the basement for a while.

I'll have to see what's around me, I live in terrible northern Ontario. If I was in Toronto I bet I could find some cool stuff. Perhaps I'll let the Internet and YouTube guide me. I do have much free space in the basement.

Forgot to say, all that sounds cool as hell

[absyrd]

Ah, yeah. Forgot your location. Maybe there is an art space (think hackerspace) around? I've heard of them in Philly but never went to one as the community college was just more convenient.

And I'm going to link this thread in my own sig for a couple days. I really try to support art, and I love keyboards (despite the Cherry), so it is a go-go.

[Halverson]

Ah, yeah. Forgot your location. Maybe there is an art space (think hackerspace) around? I've heard of them in Philly but never went to one as the community college was just more convenient.

And I'm going to link this thread in my own sig for a couple days. I really try to support art, and I love keyboards (despite the Cherry), so it is a go-go.

I'm trying to tell any friends that like keyboards or art to come check it out. Maybe I'll just need to become an art dealer.

[absyrd]

Ah, yeah. Forgot your location. Maybe there is an art space (think hackerspace) around? I've heard of them in Philly but never went to one as the community college was just more convenient.

And I'm going to link this thread in my own sig for a couple days. I really try to support art, and I love keyboards (despite the Cherry), so it is a go-go.

I'm trying to tell any friends that like keyboards or art to come check it out. Maybe I'll just need to become an art dealer.

Dream job. I got offered to learn the ways at a gallery in New Hope, PA, back in the day. I turned it down as I was getting into real estate, and since the gallery now has two locations in NYC. Ooooooops!

[YoungMichael88]

First of all, great idea. I love silk screen prints and the subject matter here makes it that much better. So here is my $0.02

1) Yes I would buy this
2) $45-$60 shipped
3) Same as above $45-$60 shipped
4) Ontario, Canada
5) geekhack - Cherry MX

I like it all being on one print but I think an ideal size for me is 24"x36". If you do decide to split the images up then I would prefer them to be each the size of a standard piece of printer paper or slightly bigger.

My other questions basically reflect exactly what Halverson asked earlier in the thread so I will just quote him here.

As for questions:
What types of paper do you have access to?
Maybe you could do four prints instead of one big one, depending on interest.
I'm really into the four templates, even that on a print would be great.
ps-I love me some test prints

Oh and I also wanted to say, I like the hand drawn style 

[Halverson]

First of all, great idea. I love silk screen prints and the subject matter here makes it that much better. So here is my $0.02

1) Yes I would buy this
2) $45-$60 shipped
3) Same as above $45-$60 shipped
4) Ontario, Canada
5) geekhack - Cherry MX

I like it all being on one print but I think an ideal size for me is 24"x36". If you do decide to split the images up then I would prefer them to be each the size of a standard piece of printer paper or slightly bigger.

My other questions basically reflect exactly what Halverson asked earlier in the thread so I will just quote him here.

As for questions:
What types of paper do you have access to?
Maybe you could do four prints instead of one big one, depending on interest.
I'm really into the four templates, even that on a print would be great.
ps-I love me some test prints

Oh and I also wanted to say, I like the hand drawn style 

Sadly, I don't think the general 18x24 or 24x36 would work due to them not being so rectangular.

[YoungMichael88]

First of all, great idea. I love silk screen prints and the subject matter here makes it that much better. So here is my $0.02

1) Yes I would buy this
2) $45-$60 shipped
3) Same as above $45-$60 shipped
4) Ontario, Canada
5) geekhack - Cherry MX

I like it all being on one print but I think an ideal size for me is 24"x36". If you do decide to split the images up then I would prefer them to be each the size of a standard piece of printer paper or slightly bigger.

My other questions basically reflect exactly what Halverson asked earlier in the thread so I will just quote him here.

As for questions:
What types of paper do you have access to?
Maybe you could do four prints instead of one big one, depending on interest.
I'm really into the four templates, even that on a print would be great.
ps-I love me some test prints

Oh and I also wanted to say, I like the hand drawn style 

Sadly, I don't think the general 18x24 or 24x36 would work due to them not being so rectangular.

These are digital mock ups he said. So he could do anything really.

[Halverson]

First of all, great idea. I love silk screen prints and the subject matter here makes it that much better. So here is my $0.02

1) Yes I would buy this
2) $45-$60 shipped
3) Same as above $45-$60 shipped
4) Ontario, Canada
5) geekhack - Cherry MX

I like it all being on one print but I think an ideal size for me is 24"x36". If you do decide to split the images up then I would prefer them to be each the size of a standard piece of printer paper or slightly bigger.

My other questions basically reflect exactly what Halverson asked earlier in the thread so I will just quote him here.

As for questions:
What types of paper do you have access to?
Maybe you could do four prints instead of one big one, depending on interest.
I'm really into the four templates, even that on a print would be great.
ps-I love me some test prints

Oh and I also wanted to say, I like the hand drawn style 

Sadly, I don't think the general 18x24 or 24x36 would work due to them not being so rectangular.

These are digital mock ups he said. So he could do anything really.

Except they are four switches, in square shapes. Cherry switches are pretty much square. So what do you propose? Squish the into rectangles? A lot more uneven white space? Potentially you could add two more switches for a 2x6 switch pattern, but that's just a bit much.

[YoungMichael88]

First of all, great idea. I love silk screen prints and the subject matter here makes it that much better. So here is my $0.02

1) Yes I would buy this
2) $45-$60 shipped
3) Same as above $45-$60 shipped
4) Ontario, Canada
5) geekhack - Cherry MX

I like it all being on one print but I think an ideal size for me is 24"x36". If you do decide to split the images up then I would prefer them to be each the size of a standard piece of printer paper or slightly bigger.

My other questions basically reflect exactly what Halverson asked earlier in the thread so I will just quote him here.

As for questions:
What types of paper do you have access to?
Maybe you could do four prints instead of one big one, depending on interest.
I'm really into the four templates, even that on a print would be great.
ps-I love me some test prints

Oh and I also wanted to say, I like the hand drawn style 

Sadly, I don't think the general 18x24 or 24x36 would work due to them not being so rectangular.

These are digital mock ups he said. So he could do anything really.

Except they are four switches, in square shapes. Cherry switches are pretty much square. So what do you propose? Squish the into rectangles? A lot more uneven white space? Potentially you could add two more switches for a 2x6 switch pattern, but that's just a bit much.

Yea. Maybe just trim a few inches off each of the sides on the squares. Just trim the colored background parts of the 4 images to make them more rectangular. I'm just thinking about frames and I don't know how common/easy large, perfectly square frames are to get. You would know more about that.

[Coconut]

This IC sounds great, and I would probably buy one around 30$? Bigger is always better 

I'd recommend BFK Rives or Stonehenge if you are able to have access to this type of paper. And I would label it in the fine print format which is the number of print (ex. 1/50) or type such as AP as mentioned above, title and signature/year.
BFK is very pricey but Stonehenge is much cheaper and a great alternative. BFK is by far the thickest and sexiest paper I have used haha, I am biased to it 
But of course you don't have to use these, but I would definitely recommend them because of their quality

Another idea is you can look into finding a printmaking facility (membership) and use their screens and also tear bar's so that you tear it down to what size you need

GL, i'm looking forward to what happens!

[hydrospell]

I have always done my art for therapeutic reasons, and all of it very abstract (hence why I needed graphic design help recently). Never sold a thing. Only had the testes to give a couple away to close friends.

I think your drawings are great and will make a great print. I hope more people see this thread. Perhaps put a link in your sig?

Thanks Thank you too for putting a link in your sig for this. I need to work on my hustling/marketing game!

1. I would buy this poster
2. Ideally 15-20, but I would pay up to ~30
3. Same price if they were limited
4. USA
5. I think "Geekhack" would look best on the bottom

Thanks for your response, pwnnarwhal. I've recorded this.

Good choice on the paper! I recently passed on a cream paper print for a mint green, need me some cream!

I also agree on no giclee! Not terrible, but not for this piece for sure.

In regard to "geekhack" at the bottom, just seems wrong since this site is so much more. More like "Cherries".

How many prints would you need to do to make this feasible?

Lastly, would you be willing to hand number and sign these if you do a small limited run?

Yes seems like we have consensus on paper!

No giclee- Got it!

"geekhack" - I thought so too so was just throwing it out really. The reason I suggested "geekhack" is that this was triggered by me wanting to 'make' something that the community here can have a part of (in my OP's spirit) but I understand how it can be turned the other way and be thought of as 'representative' of GH. Cherries sounds good, recorded.

No. of prints to make project feasible: I'll post the math in the OP later (will create FAQ section) but I think I need to sell 15-20 prints at around the $35 price point to make this feasible. And this is assuming I can solve the shipping problem - currently looking at less than $10 for surface shipping (6-8 weeks) or $80 for air mail (8-10 working days). Ridiculous. So I need to either find proxies to even out shipping cost or find a better postal service ().

Hand number and sign - that's the idea when I asked question 3 - if this print run was limited. So yes, I would love to hand number and sign these! And the APs of course.

Good questions. Are you hand-pulling these yourself or sending it off?

And definitely sign and number like any print. Any APs just write AP on bottom. It'll make Halv feel extra special when he gets one.

Hand-pulling these! Labour cost is just not worth it in Singapore for these, and I am a control freak when it comes to artwork I put out!

I'll make Halv feel extra special with edition 1/n 

First of all, great idea. I love silk screen prints and the subject matter here makes it that much better. So here is my $0.02

1) Yes I would buy this
2) $45-$60 shipped
3) Same as above $45-$60 shipped
4) Ontario, Canada
5) geekhack - Cherry MX

I like it all being on one print but I think an ideal size for me is 24"x36". If you do decide to split the images up then I would prefer them to be each the size of a standard piece of printer paper or slightly bigger.

My other questions basically reflect exactly what Halverson asked earlier in the thread so I will just quote him here.

As for questions:
What types of paper do you have access to?
Maybe you could do four prints instead of one big one, depending on interest.
I'm really into the four templates, even that on a print would be great.
ps-I love me some test prints

Thanks for your response, I have recorded it.

As to your questions:

1) 24" x 36" might be too tall (or wide), so the image wouldn't look very good. Some paper size mockups here. Clockwise from top left: 24 x 27, square, 24 x 36 portrait and 36 x 24 landscape. I don't want it to be square though, it looks too symmetrical. Will figure this out as I fine tune the artwork and paper sizes.

2) Type of paper - cream, heavy stock! I believe Coconut has suggested some paper that I will definitely check out the availability of in Singapore.

3) 4 prints instead of 1 big one - I'm leaning more towards keeping it as one poster now, as the concept and visual is more interesting as opposed to 4 seperate prints.

4) test print and templates - You're no. 5 in line. Dibs for these will go in order of response to the interest check!

Thanks again.


 

This IC sounds great, and I would probably buy one around 30$? Bigger is always better 

I'd recommend BFK Rives or Stonehenge if you are able to have access to this type of paper. And I would label it in the fine print format which is the number of print (ex. 1/50) or type such as AP as mentioned above, title and signature/year.
BFK is very pricey but Stonehenge is much cheaper and a great alternative. BFK is by far the thickest and sexiest paper I have used haha, I am biased to it 
But of course you don't have to use these, but I would definitely recommend them because of their quality

Another idea is you can look into finding a printmaking facility (membership) and use their screens and also tear bar's so that you tear it down to what size you need

GL, i'm looking forward to what happens!

Thank you for the response and for the paper suggestions. I'll check them out with my local paper dealers. Fine print format - you got it. Halv, be prepared to be so special !

Using screens at printmaking facility - I don't think any publicly accessible printmaking facilities exist here but I might be wrong. Will do a quick search on this.

What are tear bars and what am I tearing down to size? Is this for the paper?


This seems to be going well...  )
(and now I just jinxed it)

Will be consolidating some of these questions/discussions into OP in a bit. Off to work! Thanks!

[YoungMichael88]

Dibs on 2/x if that's possible. You could even ship mine with halversons!

[hydrospell]

Sounds like a plan!

[hydrospell]

here's a pic of my Colour separation process sketched.

[Halverson]

Awe yay! Can't wait to see this progress!

And yea I'm RL buddies with youngmichael so we can ship together.

I'd love to proxy for this to North America, but sadly Canadian shipping prices suck! I could look I to it if need be though

[Coconut]

A tear bar is just a large ruler shaped piece of metal that helps you hold down the paper and tear down the paper to a certain size (if you need too, just a suggestion )). This helps keep the deckel (frayed edges) looking...deckeled lol its purely aesthetics though haha

did I mention that BFK Rives is made in France? Veery faancey
Im really looking forward to the editions you make 

[taylordcraig]

I would pay like $150 for the largest size at that price point.
**** would look tight on my wall. LMK how much a 36" square would cost.

[Halverson]

I would pay like $150 for the largest size at that price point.
**** would look tight on my wall. LMK how much a 36" square would cost.

I would also love one that size, sadly I don't think there would be enough folks to do a run of them that size/price.

[absyrd]

Also have to factor in shipping with size. With something smaller, you can just ship flat sandwiched between a couple pieces of cardboard with "DO NOT BEND" on it. If you go big, you have no choice but to roll 'em up in heavy tubes that carriers usually charge extra for because of shape and size.

[strafe]

1) Yes
2) Around $40 plus postage
3) Around $40 plus postage
4) Australia
5) Up to you

[absyrd]

These are the tubes I used to use:

http://www.uline.com/grp_74_heavyduty/Heavy-Duty-Kraft-Tubes

Not a bad price considering the quality.

The fees for the shipping is the ***** as most services consider the shape and size odd and charge you extra.

[hydrospell]

Gonna pop back in to reply properly to the responses since I last checked in (still at work now), but damn, looking at strafe's avatar I am already dreaming of this poster style but brobot series omg.

[hydrospell]

And yea I'm RL buddies with youngmichael so we can ship together.

I'd love to proxy for this to North America, but sadly Canadian shipping prices suck! I could look I to it if need be though

Cool stuff - I think if you guys are all cool with it, all the Canadian shipping could go in one tube/package

A tear bar is just a large ruler shaped piece of metal that helps you hold down the paper and tear down the paper to a certain size (if you need too, just a suggestion )). This helps keep the deckel (frayed edges) looking...deckeled lol its purely aesthetics though haha
did I mention that BFK Rives is made in France? Veery faancey
Im really looking forward to the editions you make 

Imma head to the paper shop this weekend! Hope they have either BFK or Stonehenge; at any rate I will get some samples and try to take some good photos to show everyone here. Thanks for the info on the tear bar - I really need to go attend a screenprinting class now (only picked it up informally from my fine arts friends when I was in art school), which I am! Going to Glasgow for a summer course in screenprinting in July!!! 

I would pay like $150 for the largest size at that price point.
**** would look tight on my wall. LMK how much a 36" square would cost.

Response noted taylordddd. We'll probably have to stick to a 30x30cm or thereabouts so everyone can afford to frame their prints if they want to, but I'll check what a huge 3ft square print of this would cost. Probably not screen-printed at that point, maybe 4C spot/digital offset or something. But I'll check and if I don't get back please kick my butt (a/k/a PM me). Can I put you down as interested for the normal sized prints, and at what price? Thanks man.

I would also love one that size, sadly I don't think there would be enough folks to do a run of them that size/price.

Same, will check large format printing options and MOQ.

Also have to factor in shipping with size. With something smaller, you can just ship flat sandwiched between a couple pieces of cardboard with "DO NOT BEND" on it. If you go big, you have no choice but to roll 'em up in heavy tubes that carriers usually charge extra for because of shape and size.

Yup that's pretty much the cost I'm not willing to incur at this point unless we can ship to everyone via proxy somehow. Thanks for the link to the cardboard tubes, I think I found something equivalent in Singapore for the same price (so I dont' have to ship these in from US to pack the prints).

1) Yes
2) Around $40 plus postage
3) Around $40 plus postage
4) Australia
5) Up to you

Recorded! Thank you.

More updates coming soon.

[hydrospell]

Updates and details posted to first page as an FAQ section.

Have currently registered 7 interested people. Only 9-13 more people needed to get me a break even  )

I'm thinking of going ahead anyway and front the cost for this, seems like too much fun not to do!

[absyrd]

Thanks for the update, and nice FAQ.

Give it a little more time and I'm sure people will bite.


And let me know when you get onto this:



  

[Giorgio]

There that there is something very wrong with the perspective, I think that it's completely off. The stem is misaligned by a great margin.

[Giorgio]

Nice, where do we put the phrase: "Designed and patented by Cherry"? Yes, it's true.

Thanks for the update, and nice FAQ.

Give it a little more time and I'm sure people will bite.


And let me know when you get onto this:

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 :p  ;D

[hydrospell]

There that there is something very wrong with the perspective, I think that it's completely off. The stem is misaligned by a great margin.

Fair enough, I understand your concern. However this was not meant to be a technical or 'accurate' drawing, I didn't draw this in perspective (with projection lines). In fact this was done free hand, still life style. If this is not your preference for a print like this, no worries

Nice, where do we put the phrase: "Designed and patented by Cherry"? Yes, it's true.

Haha that's a bit too long. I might do without any text or just do a font design for "MX".

[hydrospell]

Thanks for the update, and nice FAQ.

Give it a little more time and I'm sure people will bite.


And let me know when you get onto this:

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 :p  ;D

First I would need to get my hands on a loose THORPE switch. I'm not going to crack open my one and only HHKB for that man. *Hiiiiiint*

[CPTBadAss]

I'm a graphic designer and general keyboard nut with 4 keyboards, one of them being #endgame HHKB 1 (courtesy of Hasu who sold it to me at a damn good price)

Have also been benefiting a lot from GH, learning how to solder, hand-wire, flashing Teensies, the whole lot. Always felt like a 'consumer' here just taking in all this stuff all the while. That is, till the moment I saw CPTBadAss' Tactile zine project about a week ago, it occurred to me that I can put my training/skills to use here too.

Which comes to the 'graphic design' part. I would like to create a 4-colour silkscreen print of some #notendgame Cherry MX switches.

Much love. Thank you for sending me all that artwork so far <3.


Answering the questions from the OP:

1) Would you buy this poster? yes
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [$25-$45] I'd be comfortable at around $20-30 plus shipping.
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45] See above.
4) Where are you based? USA
5) I want to add a hand-lettered title on this poster too. It will be to the bottom of the four switch images. What should it say? If you hand drew this and you're making/selling them, I'd like your signature. Only makes sense IMO. If you wanted to add Geekhack that's fine but art should have the artists name right?

[absyrd]

Oh crap. I sent CPT a messy sketch for tactile.

hydrospell probably sent some beauties.

I might have to step up and do something more refined.

And I don't know what this giorgio is on about. It is an artist's representation. You don't need to cite or quote or TM or copyright or whatever. Have you ever seen art before?

[Giorgio]

It wasn't a rant about the poster, but more about the fact that there are some who say that they love topre and hate cherry products, when in fact the topre switch was invented by cherry, and it is not even covered by a patent anymore.

And I don't know what this giorgio is on about. It is an artist's representation. You don't need to cite or quote or TM or copyright or whatever. Have you ever seen art before?

[Halverson]

It wasn't a rant about the poster, but more about the fact that there are some who say that they love topre and hate cherry products, when in fact the topre switch was invented by cherry, and it is not even covered by a patent anymore.

And I don't know what this giorgio is on about. It is an artist's representation. You don't need to cite or quote or TM or copyright or whatever. Have you ever seen art before?

Regardless, this isn't the place to argue over such things. Please take it to pm instead. We don't need any bad vibes, just some fun art

[hydrospell]

Much love. Thank you for sending me all that artwork so far <3.

Answering the questions from the OP:

1) Would you buy this poster? yes
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [$25-$45] I'd be comfortable at around $20-30 plus shipping.
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45] See above.
4) Where are you based? USA
5) I want to add a hand-lettered title on this poster too. It will be to the bottom of the four switch images. What should it say? If you hand drew this and you're making/selling them, I'd like your signature. Only makes sense IMO. If you wanted to add Geekhack that's fine but art should have the artists name right?

Got this down CPT! Thanks for dropping by 

Oh crap. I sent CPT a messy sketch for tactile.

hydrospell probably sent some beauties.

I might have to step up and do something more refined.

And I don't know what this giorgio is on about. It is an artist's representation. You don't need to cite or quote or TM or copyright or whatever. Have you ever seen art before?

Messy sketch is what I sent too. Can't wait for the next issue, probably be bursting with art and keyboard madness!

[hydrospell]

Also to expand a bit on the font/letter design at the bottom, this is what I had in mind:



Of course the "MX" is just a sketch at this moment, I'm going to properly hand-letter the font.

On top of this I will sign and number each print.
I think people usually number and sign their prints on the artwork. Do you guys prefer the same or on the back?

[CPTBadAss]

Put it on the front! And am I sensing an absyrd X hydrospell collabo?

[Halverson]

Put it on the front! And am I sensing an absyrd X hydrospell collabo?

Usually on the front bottom left or right. A lot do edition on one side and signature on the other-that's my fav

[Coconut]

i learned it was edition on the left, title in the middle and signature/year on the right of the image printed

but dont worry about this youll be learning it in the class!!! itll be tons of fun and pretty messy but fun XD

i definitly want to hear your experience with screenprinting lol
the agony of lining up the layers ;_;

[Tigermelon]

1) Would you buy this poster? [yes][no]
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [below $25][$25-$45][$45-$60][$above $60]
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45][$45-$60][$60-$75][$above $75]
4) Where are you based? [your country] (this is so I can find out what it's gonna cost to ship this to you in a cardboard tube)
5) I want to add a hand-lettered title on this poster too. It will be to the bottom of the four switch images. What should it say? [Geekhack][Cherry Blossom][suggest something]

1. Yes
2. Anywhere below 35 tbh.
3. Well you've stated a limited run of 50 so yeah, Still <35
4. USA
5. Uhhh that's up to everyone else, I don't really mind either way. As long as the hand drawn font isn't ugly, I'm good.

[user 18]

1. Yes
2&3. It would depend on how large it was. Would be willing to pay more for a larger print (or a 4-print set, if they're split).
4. Canada
5. I like the look and simplicity of the serifed "MX" that's mocked up a few posts up.

[Air tree]

1) Would you buy this poster? [yes][no]
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [below $25][$25-$45][$45-$60][$above $60]
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45][$45-$60][$60-$75][$above $75]
4) Where are you based? [your country] (this is so I can find out what it's gonna cost to ship this to you in a cardboard tube)
5) I want to add a hand-lettered title on this poster too. It will be to the bottom of the four switch images. What should it say? [Geekhack][Cherry Blossom][suggest something]


1. Yes
2. $25-$45
3. $25-$45, again.
4. United States
5. Just "Cherry"



And Hyrdo, I would gladly ship you a topre stem in the hopes of getting some artwork similar to this done with it.  (As long as I can get it back )

[absyrd]

i learned it was edition on the left, title in the middle and signature/year on the right of the image printed

but dont worry about this youll be learning it in the class!!! itll be tons of fun and pretty messy but fun XD

i definitly want to hear your experience with screenprinting lol
the agony of lining up the layers ;_;

Yep. #/# on left. Title in middle handwritten in quotes. Sig (with or without year) on right.

And registration with screenprinting can be rough, especially if you are like me and don't give 100% of ****s.

[Seranite]

1) Would you buy this poster? [yes][no]
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [below $25][$25-$45][$45-$60][$above $60]
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45][$45-$60][$60-$75][$above $75]
4) Where are you based? [your country] (this is so I can find out what it's gonna cost to ship this to you in a cardboard tube)
5) I want to add a hand-lettered title on this poster too. It will be to the bottom of the four switch images. What should it say? [Geekhack][Cherry Blossom][suggest something]


1. Yes
2. $25-$45
3. $25-$45
4. United States
5. MX

[hydrospell]

Tigermelon, user 18, Air tree, Seranite
Thanks guys, I've got your interest registered.

Thanks for the further pointers on editions, signatures, etc

I have some updates on the artwork (will also post on OP so newcomers get the latest info)

1) I would like to create some white space around the stem to further emphasize the colour of the switches.


2) The title and edition/signature will be laid out like this and printed. I will then hand-number each copy and sign on the right

I know the "MX" is fugly currently, will work on the lettering!!! 

3) Here's an updated overall view of the layout


Feedback eberybodyrrrrr!

[CPTBadAss]

Yes I'll take one of those as is.

[Seranite]

Tigermelon, user 18, Air tree, Seranite
Thanks guys, I've got your interest registered.

Thanks for the further pointers on editions, signatures, etc

I have some updates on the artwork (will also post on OP so newcomers get the latest info)

1) I would like to create some white space around the stem to further emphasize the colour of the switches.

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2) The title and edition/signature will be laid out like this and printed. I will then hand-number each copy and sign on the right :)

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I know the "MX" is fugly currently, will work on the lettering!!! 

3) Here's an updated overall view of the layout

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Feedback eberybodyrrrrr!

Loving it. 10/10 will buy.

[user 18]

Tigermelon, user 18, Air tree, Seranite
Thanks guys, I've got your interest registered.

Thanks for the further pointers on editions, signatures, etc

I have some updates on the artwork (will also post on OP so newcomers get the latest info)

1) I would like to create some white space around the stem to further emphasize the colour of the switches.

Show Image

2) The title and edition/signature will be laid out like this and printed. I will then hand-number each copy and sign on the right :)

Show Image

I know the "MX" is fugly currently, will work on the lettering!!! 

3) Here's an updated overall view of the layout

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Feedback eberybodyrrrrr!

Loving it. 11/10 will buy.

FTFY

I love it, and I look forward to the buy!

[Seranite]

Tigermelon, user 18, Air tree, Seranite
Thanks guys, I've got your interest registered.

Thanks for the further pointers on editions, signatures, etc

I have some updates on the artwork (will also post on OP so newcomers get the latest info)

1) I would like to create some white space around the stem to further emphasize the colour of the switches.

Show Image

2) The title and edition/signature will be laid out like this and printed. I will then hand-number each copy and sign on the right :)

Show Image

I know the "MX" is fugly currently, will work on the lettering!!! 

3) Here's an updated overall view of the layout

Show Image

Feedback eberybodyrrrrr!

Loving it. 11/10 will buy.

FTFY

I love it, and I look forward to the buy!

How dare you put another one in my mouth!

[Halverson]

Tigermelon, user 18, Air tree, Seranite
Thanks guys, I've got your interest registered.

Thanks for the further pointers on editions, signatures, etc

I have some updates on the artwork (will also post on OP so newcomers get the latest info)

1) I would like to create some white space around the stem to further emphasize the colour of the switches.

Show Image

2) The title and edition/signature will be laid out like this and printed. I will then hand-number each copy and sign on the right :)

Show Image

I know the "MX" is fugly currently, will work on the lettering!!! 

3) Here's an updated overall view of the layout

Show Image

Feedback eberybodyrrrrr!

Very nice! You don't need to actually write "edition" or "artist" on the print. Unless you just put those as a placeholder. Just numbers and a signature :)

[user 18]

Tigermelon, user 18, Air tree, Seranite
Thanks guys, I've got your interest registered.

Thanks for the further pointers on editions, signatures, etc

I have some updates on the artwork (will also post on OP so newcomers get the latest info)

1) I would like to create some white space around the stem to further emphasize the colour of the switches.

Show Image

2) The title and edition/signature will be laid out like this and printed. I will then hand-number each copy and sign on the right :)

Show Image

I know the "MX" is fugly currently, will work on the lettering!!! 

3) Here's an updated overall view of the layout

Show Image

Feedback eberybodyrrrrr!

Loving it. 111/10 will buy.

FTFY

I love it, and I look forward to the buy!

How dare you put another one in my mouth!

Oh I'm sorry. I'll put the next one in the mail.

[hydrospell]

Lol so cray

Halv I just thought it'd be fun to do a little 'template' for it so the entire thing looks a little more deliberate. Is the 'edition' and 'artist' label too much? Visually speaking.

I am getting silkscreen quotes for my test run as we speak but the silkscreen company is slow to respond... Zzz. Will head down to paper store tomorrow as its Saturday! Yay

[Seranite]

Lol so cray

Halv I just thought it'd be fun to do a little 'template' for it so the entire thing looks a little more deliberate. Is the 'edition' and 'artist' label too much? Visually speaking.

I am getting silkscreen quotes for my test run as we speak but the silkscreen company is slow to respond... Zzz. Will head down to paper store tomorrow as its Saturday! Yay

I know I'm not Halverson, but I wanted to put my two cents in on the labels. I personally like the edition and artist, for me, it creates a talking point if someone else looks at the poster and it would be interesting to me to see which poster I have (in relation to printing order). Also it's not big or obtrusive at all, MX is still the main visual when looking at the bottom half and the other two lines of text are equally spaced away from MX which is visually appealing to me. I love symmetry!

[Halverson]

Lol so cray

Halv I just thought it'd be fun to do a little 'template' for it so the entire thing looks a little more deliberate. Is the 'edition' and 'artist' label too much? Visually speaking.

I am getting silkscreen quotes for my test run as we speak but the silkscreen company is slow to respond... Zzz. Will head down to paper store tomorrow as its Saturday! Yay

I know I'm not Halverson, but I wanted to put my two cents in on the labels. I personally like the edition and artist, for me, it creates a talking point if someone else looks at the poster and it would be interesting to me to see which poster I have (in relation to printing order). Also it's not big or obtrusive at all, MX is still the main visual when looking at the bottom half and the other two lines of text are equally spaced away from MX which is visually appealing to me. I love symmetry!

I think I may have said that wrong. I meant the literal words "edition" and "artist". I want just the numbers, the title, and your signature.

We kind of know what 25/50 would mean and same with a hand written name.

[hydrospell]

Halv - understood what you meant the first time round  However it is my intention for the print to look like this when all is printed, signed and numbered:

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That said, if you really don't like it and would like just the MX title, I am happy to mask out the 'labels' when printing your edition and just sign and number like how other people normally do it.

[Seranite]

Lol so cray

Halv I just thought it'd be fun to do a little 'template' for it so the entire thing looks a little more deliberate. Is the 'edition' and 'artist' label too much? Visually speaking.

I am getting silkscreen quotes for my test run as we speak but the silkscreen company is slow to respond... Zzz. Will head down to paper store tomorrow as its Saturday! Yay

I know I'm not Halverson, but I wanted to put my two cents in on the labels. I personally like the edition and artist, for me, it creates a talking point if someone else looks at the poster and it would be interesting to me to see which poster I have (in relation to printing order). Also it's not big or obtrusive at all, MX is still the main visual when looking at the bottom half and the other two lines of text are equally spaced away from MX which is visually appealing to me. I love symmetry!

I think I may have said that wrong. I meant the literal words "edition" and "artist". I want just the numbers, the title, and your signature.

We kind of know what 25/50 would mean and same with a hand written name.

I was under the impression that the words "edition" and "artist" would actually be replaced with the edition number and artist name.

[hydrospell]

Eh. crap.

I think I would like the title as part of the design, so that will be in proper lettering for sure.

For signature and edition, does everyone agree then that they just want the signature and number? No fancy shmancy 'labels'? If that's the consensus I'll just take it away.

[user 18]

I'm fine either way.

[Karura]

I'd be interested!

[Halverson]

You're the artist, if you'd prefer the labels I'm cool with it.

[CPTBadAss]

I'd also like to see just #/50 and your name and no "Edition" or "Artist". But like Halverson said, it's your art, don't let us backseat drive how you work.

[hydrospell]

LOL Crampin' my style 

Here's the MX lettering I'm settling on:



Dropping the "edition" / "artist" labels.

Here's the full layout as of now.



Updates:

• Ordered test print screens
• Asked for postage rates from post office, it's looking possible to ship everyone their print directly in 2 weeks (10 working days) or less and still keep cost at $35 per print but I'll only know for sure when I try to ship the actual damn poster (which have to be printed first). For now I am still aiming for a price of $35 per print, above postage inclusive. 
• Probably have go with artwork size of 35cm x 40cm due to cost of silkscreen.
• Will continue updating this IC thread with pics of test prints, actual print run etc. Will close IC thread and open group buy thread only when I have the actual final posters ready.
• Am heading out now to look for the papurrr.

[Halverson]

Awesome updates!

[absyrd]

Awesome updates!

Hell yeah.

And I still don't know how you are going to do it for $35 shipped. Awesome.

With a cheap custom frame with just acrylic, it'll probably be $100-$125 on the wall. Some may choose just to tack it up (you can do this by placing tacks around using the lips of them to hold it and not through the print).

[ImAWildDeer]

1: Yes
2: Ideally sub $50
3: Ideally sub $50
4: USA

[hydrospell]

Quick updates:

1)

2)
Will test print all all these types of paper and do detailed scan or photograph.

3) Test screens supposed to arrive today - excite!

1: Yes
2: Ideally sub $50
3: Ideally sub $50
4: USA

Noted and registered, ImAWildDeer.

Awesome updates!

Hell yeah.

And I still don't know how you are going to do it for $35 shipped. Awesome.

With a cheap custom frame with just acrylic, it'll probably be $100-$125 on the wall. Some may choose just to tack it up (you can do this by placing tacks around using the lips of them to hold it and not through the print).

My main variable now is shipping cost, once that's under control I am confident I can do $35 shipped, otherwise will discuss separately with you guys on proxy shipping to control cost for everyone. So far everyone's mostly in the US or Canada so it should be manageable.

Let's hope Singpost doesn't screw me up

[aznairjordan]

Interested in this just to have some art for my future stable living situation!

1) Would you buy this poster? [yes]
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [$25-$45]
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45]
4) Where are you based? [USA-CA]
5) Don't really care as long as its simple and doesn't take up too much room!

[hydrospell]

Interested in this just to have some art for my future stable living situation!

1) Would you buy this poster? [yes]
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [$25-$45]
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45]
4) Where are you based? [USA-CA]
5) Don't really care as long as its simple and doesn't take up too much room!

Registered! Honoured that you would want this for your future house! (stable ? are you a horse?  )

[aznairjordan]

Interested in this just to have some art for my future stable living situation!

1) Would you buy this poster? [yes]
2) How much would you pay for one, incl. shipping? [$25-$45]
3) How much would you pay for one if these are limited to 100pcs only, incl. shipping? [below $45]
4) Where are you based? [USA-CA]
5) Don't really care as long as its simple and doesn't take up too much room!

Registered! Honoured that you would want this for your future house! (stable ? are you a horse?  )

haha no I'm about to graduate college! I'll be moving around a bit as I have an internship just for the summer, so I won't be able to set up my desk anywhere. When I do finally settle down, I would love to have this hang over my desk.

[hydrospell]

Congratulations! Sorry I cannot resist (bad) punny jokes

[hydrospell]

Hmmmmmmmm

[hydrospell]

Did some late night test runs

1) The brown was too watery out of the jar. Will have to try again or return it.

2) Apparently I need something called a transparent base to make the colours more transparent, in order to achieve the overprinting layers I wanted. #noob

3) Thank goodness for water soluble silkscreen ink.

[aznairjordan]

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Did some late night test runs

1) The brown was too watery out of the jar. Will have to try again or return it.

2) Apparently I need something called a transparent base to make the colours more transparent, in order to achieve the overprinting layers I wanted. #noob

3) Thank goodness for water soluble silkscreen ink.

i have no idea what's going on art wise, but it looks like some good progress!

I forgot to ask this before, will you be saving a slot (for a fixed amount of time) in the group buy for the people who showed interest here? I'm worried that I may forget to check and have them be all taken.

[hydrospell]

i have no idea what's going on art wise, but it looks like some good progress!

I forgot to ask this before, will you be saving a slot (for a fixed amount of time) in the group buy for the people who showed interest here? I'm worried that I may forget to check and have them be all taken.

I doubt all 50 pieces will be sold by the first day although it'd be nice if that happens 
However the concern is valid and I will probably PM everyone who showed interest to ask if you want in once the group buy launches. Saving a slot for a fixed time is a way around this too but I'd have to think a bit more about this before I decide whether to do it, and how long that fixed time slot is.

Thanks for bringing this up!

[Seranite]

i have no idea what's going on art wise, but it looks like some good progress!

I forgot to ask this before, will you be saving a slot (for a fixed amount of time) in the group buy for the people who showed interest here? I'm worried that I may forget to check and have them be all taken.

I doubt all 50 pieces will be sold by the first day although it'd be nice if that happens 
However the concern is valid and I will probably PM everyone who showed interest to ask if you want in once the group buy launches. Saving a slot for a fixed time is a way around this too but I'd have to think a bit more about this before I decide whether to do it, and how long that fixed time slot is.

Thanks for bringing this up!

This was a major concern of mine as well. Thank you for addressing it!

[Seranite]

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Did some late night test runs

1) The brown was too watery out of the jar. Will have to try again or return it.

2) Apparently I need something called a transparent base to make the colours more transparent, in order to achieve the overprinting layers I wanted. #noob

3) Thank goodness for water soluble silkscreen ink.

Great progress so far, you live and you learn. 

[Halverson]

Yay color!!!!

[absyrd]

Thanks for all the updates / process!

Still jealous Halv is getting an AP.

[Halverson]

Thanks for all the updates / process!

Still jealous Halv is getting an AP.

I'm jealous that the earth is closer to you than me

[absyrd]

Thanks for all the updates / process!

Still jealous Halv is getting an AP.

I'm jealous that the earth is closer to you than me

Are you calling me fat and short?

[Seranite]

Thanks for all the updates / process!

Still jealous Halv is getting an AP.

I'm jealous that the earth is closer to you than me

Are you calling me fat and short?

I think he's saying that he's a space shark.

[Halverson]

Thanks for all the updates / process!

Still jealous Halv is getting an AP.

I'm jealous that the earth is closer to you than me

Are you calling me fat and short?

I think he's saying that he's a space shark.

Without going off topic, I'm saying itd be cool if we were closer so we could share the art in person.

[absyrd]

Thanks for all the updates / process!

Still jealous Halv is getting an AP.

I'm jealous that the earth is closer to you than me

Are you calling me fat and short?

I think he's saying that he's a space shark.

Without going off topic, I'm saying itd be cool if we were closer so we could share the art in person.

Yeah! Look at me who has this thread in his signature sending this OT! Ooooops.

Thanks for bringing it back on track.

This art would be much better if we all got together and compared the different variations.

Speaking of which... this could be a "varied" edition with different colored layers between prints!

[hadees]

Looks cool, I think it would do well in a coworking facility I work in.

[taylordcraig]

Good progress so far! I'm looking forward to seeing a print closer to the image shown here.

[CPTBadAss]

I like where this thread is going.

[hydrospell]

Sorry I haven't updated much these past few days! Went on a short trip to Malaysia. Will be getting the transparent base when I can this week, to try to get a better tint with the colours.

[Oobly]

The slider top is all wonky and that throws off my eye... if the angle were just a touch more towards the viewer it would be more acceptable to my "engineer's" eye. Then again, perhaps that's just an indication that these are not for me.

[hydrospell]

Hi guys I'm still working on this!
Here are some updates; test print batch 2 with extender base. The tint is much better and you can see more values in the layers now.


Here's my little printing racket in a small as heck Singapore apartment bedroom.


I'll do proper scans once these dry completely tomorrow morning.

[hydrospell]

The slider top is all wonky and that throws off my eye... if the angle were just a touch more towards the viewer it would be more acceptable to my "engineer's" eye. Then again, perhaps that's just an indication that these are not for me.

I understand what you're saying and agree, now that you mention it it's quite obvious to me too.

I will fix this for the final print as I need to send artwork for final screens anyway.

[Halverson]

Hi guys I'm still working on this!
Here are some updates; test print batch 2 with extender base. The tint is much better and you can see more values in the layers now.

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Here's my little printing racket in a small as heck Singapore apartment bedroom.

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I'll do proper scans once these dry completely tomorrow morning.

Very very cool! Colors looking great!

[hydrospell]

<3

more scans to come
goodnight world!

[hydrospell]

From left to right, the papers used are

1) "Natural Straw"
2) "Natural Feather"
3) "Aquarell DA CA"

My favourite so far is Aquarell which seems to give the best texture and colour opacity.
See bigger image here

[pkircher]

the blue brown ( both)  combination kills the "edge" of the stem .. you might consider putting some whitespace in .

[taylordcraig]

the blue brown ( both)  combination kills the "edge" of the stem .. you might consider putting some whitespace in .

I agree, perhaps a small highlight at the base of the stem?

[hydrospell]

Hi guys, amazingly I still exist so I decided to make some changes to the artwork to address the issues raised

Have added a bit of white space to the stems to highlight it's contour and bring out the shape:


Also fixed the perspective problem that Oobly and others have brought up:


With this, I think I'm going to start the Group Buy process. Is it legal on GH to run it this way?

1) I will start collecting funds via Paypal
2) Once I collect a certain amount (i.e. my break even number to produce the actual silkscreens for actual size artwork), I will go into production
3) If I do not reach that break even by, let's say, 3 weeks' time, I'll refund everyone's money

[pkircher]

stem looks way better now,

thing is the colors in your gaphic and the print are way to different .. even if a digi print comes out nicely .. the brown/blue combination wont work with the colors you try to use .. you gotta be blind if you compare both colors and dont see the huge difference ..

there are ways to get the actualy colors mixed up to fit the correct palette of your design .. id buy if a artist draft looks  much like the graphic produced .. right now ..

beware "critic from an non artist: its comparing a stickman to a van goth"

dont take it personal  .. i never did silkprinting ..

so please consider it constructive

[hydrospell]

stem looks way better now,

thing is the colors in your gaphic and the print are way to different .. even if a digi print comes out nicely .. the brown/blue combination wont work with the colors you try to use .. you gotta be blind if you compare both colors and dont see the huge difference ..

there are ways to get the actualy colors mixed up to fit the correct palette of your design .. id buy if a artist draft looks  much like the graphic produced .. right now ..

beware "critic from an non artist: its comparing a stickman to a van goth"

dont take it personal  .. i never did silkprinting ..

so please consider it constructive

Heya

First off happy that you think the stem looks better. 

Good that you bring up the colour issue. Again I'm having this done in-house as a sort of creative endeavour, so there will be misregistrations and colours won't be 100% like the digital mockups shown here. (I'm not a professional printmaker, and I don't even have a proper studio space to do this!)

Thing with the photographs/scans of the test prints is that they look duller than the real thing -- again entirely subjective -- but if someone is expecting the prints to look exactly like the digital mockups, I would advise them to not buy this print.

I will make sure to draw attention to this when running the group buy so that people are not misled into buying something they will not end up liking. So thanks for bringing this up

[pkircher]

i was referering to the color composition ..
the blue bown combo works fine in the mock .. yet with the original print colors it "swallow" the details thats what i ment .. (they are to far off the orginal mock colors)

i dont know, if you got access to a prof. paint shop .. but they usualy can mix it to the correct palette .. even reuse the colors which you already have .. might need to buy some white .. to brighten the brown up a bit .. again not a specialist here .. just passing around ideas ..

the better the quality the more buyers you can / will attract .. the silkprints on massdrop are a great success so far ..

and given that you do it from home .. with no prof equiptment .. means each print is somewhat unique

reg registration beeing off by a bit - dont worry to much .. it gives character

[okwchin]

Perspective of the stem was the Very first thing that drew my attention.

Now its much more pleasing to the eye, and I can finally enjoy the rest of the work 

Loving the look and feel of the work, really like it!

(oh and that clock too)

[YoungMichael88]

It's coming along really nicely! I'm excited to get my copy!

[CPTBadAss]

Hi guys, amazingly I still exist so I decided to make some changes to the artwork to address the issues raised

Have added a bit of white space to the stems to highlight it's contour and bring out the shape:

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Also fixed the perspective problem that Oobly and others have brought up:
Mine's in the mail already right ;)? These look incredible.

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With this, I think I'm going to start the Group Buy process. Is it legal on GH to run it this way?

1) I will start collecting funds via Paypal
2) Once I collect a certain amount (i.e. my break even number to produce the actual silkscreens for actual size artwork), I will go into production
3) If I do not reach that break even by, let's say, 3 weeks' time, I'll refund everyone's money

Seems good to me.

[Dihedral]

Looks cool, would like to pick one of these up if they are not too expensive.

[primitiveType]

Is there a group buy for this yet? definitely interested. Also, it would be cool if you dropped the price upon hitting 50 orders, but I understand if you'd rather not.

[pkircher]

hydrospell,

i was rude enough to vectorize your drawing and scale it up for a local ink test

actualy it looks great on a3 using Black Diamond Canvas (220 gram) Paper ( had it around from some old prints)

pm me your paypal so i can give you something for the artwork not trying to steal !!!!!

i can share the results if you are interrested in.

[Halverson]

hydrospell,

i was rude enough to vectorize your drawing and scale it up for a local ink test

actualy it looks great on a3 using Black Diamond Canvas (220 gram) Paper ( had it around from some old prints)

pm me your paypal so i can give you something for the artwork not trying to steal !!!!!

i can share the results if you are interrested in.

May as well post results, interested in seeing! Glad to see you offering money for use

[pkircher]

@Halverson thats the least .. creative people should always be payed.
 
i will BUY a silk print from her as well,

i was just currious how it looks on paper .. i make a photo later on, 6:50 am .. so it would be with horrible light ..


just got a a4 scanner .. but shows the texture ..




ps my vector skills are limited soo dont "HATE" to much

[pkircher]

my color profile on the printer is way off i know !!! still i like the result

[Seranite]

my color profile on the printer is way off i know !!! still i like the result

Still looks great to me. Hyped for hydro's final result.

[hydrospell]

hydrospell,

i was rude enough to vectorize your drawing and scale it up for a local ink test

actualy it looks great on a3 using Black Diamond Canvas (220 gram) Paper ( had it around from some old prints)

pm me your paypal so i can give you something for the artwork not trying to steal !!!!!

i can share the results if you are interrested in.

Hey pkircher, I'm really honoured that you went so far with this  ) ) I'm OK with you printing this for your personal use but please please don't distribute/sell And no need to Paypal me anything for that, I would appreciate if you will buy the actual prints too.

--

Hey everyone, sorry I've been away. Combination of work and I wanted to take time to see what I can do with the colours, as commented upon by a couple of people here. Conclusion is the test prints so far are pretty much what you will get in terms of colours, so do not look at the digital art and expect to get those colours. I have verified this with a second run with more attention paid to the base extenders (which makes it more transparent), we're not going to get as controlled a tint as the digital mockup.

TLDR: If you buy the print, please expect colours similar to test prints shown in this post.

With that, I'm currently writing up a Group Buy post and will post here again once that's done. Here's the essential points:

• Colours: Please expect colours similar to test prints photos shown here.
• Size: Actual print will be 28cm wide by roughly 33cm height.
• Paper: Aquarell DA CA 300gsm stock. <- click to see actual stock, colour & texture
• Edition: Limited to run of 50 only. All prints will be signed and numbered by me.
• Price: $35 USD + $1.35 Paypal Fees = $36.35 per print. Shipping is included worldwide.
• Group buy mechanism: Please Paypal me $36.35 x however may prints you would like. Once I hit 20 purchases, I will get the materials and order the screens + start printing. If there are less than 20 purchases after 18 July 2015, I will refund all purchases* and call this off. I will close orders once I hit 50 orders, and additional orders will be refunded*. Dibs in order of payment made. No refunds/returns will be entertained.
• AP: I have limited Artist Proofs that I will reserve for those who have called dibs in this thread, followed by your edition number (if you're the first to buy, you will get edition 1/50) till all Artist Proofs have been given out.

* Please understand that the fixed part of Paypal fee will be taken by Paypal, so you will receive ~$0.50 less than you paid in the event of a refund.

p/s I've framed one of my test prints and it looks pretty good in a glass frame. Behold: (these are quite high res so do click through to see the originals)

 
 

[hydrospell]

@Halverson thats the least .. creative people should always be payed.
 
i will BUY a silk print from her as well,

i was just currious how it looks on paper .. i make a photo later on, 6:50 am .. so it would be with horrible light ..


just got a a4 scanner .. but shows the texture ..

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ps my vector skills are limited soo dont "HATE" to much

Yo dude the colour is wayyyyy crazy in this one Do show me a photo if you have this framed or mounted somehow. Nothing like seeing your work out there in people's workspaces etc!

[pkircher]

write it up i want nr 33 .. reflects my age ! i or give me an artistdraft if you have one left !!! i donate 10 bucks on top

and reg selling or distrib .. i would never do that w/o permission , i value skills and craftmanship

ya my printer .. does give me a hard time .. the ink is dead .. time to get new stuff .. still try to match against in illustrator .. but its a pain in the butt ..

i send you a nice photo as soon as i get the frame. for now .. beware bad lighning  with mobile on whiteboard .. > and loads of funny colors due to the printer



> if you like the following i can print and ship it to you on a3 .. "a small thank you for allowing me to print it for my self"


and an even worse one :

[pkircher]

after color optimisation and scaling a single switch up to a3




im pleased now with the color in that one ( thats actualy a scan!!!)

i think i make 4 of them each in 1 of the color

[Halverson]

So excited!

[hydrospell]

pkircher, colours looking slightly better in the right image on the whiteboard However I think you'll love seeing the actual silkscreen  There's a warmth to the image somehow. No. 33 reserved for you! But what happens next year when you turn 34? 

edit Hey I think I'll take you up on that A3 print Thank you! Let's talk in PM later.


Guys I've posted my GB post for moderation, once it's approved I'll link up here!

To U.S. friends: Happy Independence Day!

To everyone else: GB approval gonna take a while due to above?  )

Have a good one guys.

[user 18]

I'll take a look at the gb approval right now, one sec.

E: Having trouble seeing it from mobile, will check again once I get back to my PC.

[Halverson]

Ughhhh still waiting! Hehe

I'll grab an extra two on my order to help out as well. Think we can shove four in one tube? (My order will be for me and YoungMichael)

[hydrospell]

Still waiting too! Thank you in advance. YoungMichael PMed me and told me about sharing shipping. Let me PM you guys on the side to sort out shipping!

[iceman1925]

1. Yes most definitely
2,3. 20 to 45 usd
4. Conus, Florida
5. Just geekhack or maybe cherry switches

[aznairjordan]

Hey hydrospell,

I was wondering if I could call dibs on an AP and get print number 23! It's my favorite number and my birthday is August 23. Thanks!

[hydrospell]

iceman1925: Thanks for registering your interest. This group buy is on So do pay attention to this thread, I'll post the link once the Group Buy is approved by the mods.

aznairjordan: you got it. Just follow the instructions to place your order and if we meet the MOQ (basically so that I break even and not lose money), I'll reserve #23 for you plus dibs on AP. I think I have enough but let me confirm that again. Thanks!

[user 18]

Approved the GB thread, sorry it took me so long!

Any chance I can reserve #18?

[primitiveType]

Can I  get dibs on ap as well?

[Seranite]

Oh boy, excited for the GB to finally open up for orders. If several others are reserving numbers can I have #4?

[hydrospell]

Hey guys, I've got you down for specific edition numbers:

pkircher - #33
aznairjordan - #23
user 18 - #18

Seranite, unfortunately #4 is taken! Do you want to pick a different number?

Hi everyone, group buy is on and here's the link!
With that I'm going to lock this thread in a day or so. No more calling dibs here! 

[hydrospell]

Update: Seranite - owner of #4 is OK with letting you have it so you have dibs for it currently. Cheers.

[Seranite]

Update: Seranite - owner of #4 is OK with letting you have it so you have dibs for it currently. Cheers.

Crap, took me so long to see this. Is this offer still valid? Working on submitting my order now.

[hydrospell]

Yup of course. Still held for you!

[Seranite]

Yup of course. Still held for you!

Aww thanks! Money and Google form have been sent!

Also thanks to whoever let me have #4, you da best!

[hydrospell]

That was Halv!

Now I understand your username, Seranite

[Seranite]

That was Halv!

Now I understand your username, Seranite

Ahhh! Someone gets it 

Aren't I clever?  )

[hydrospell]

Pizza cat level clever!

OK Guys gonna wrap this up and lock the IC thread. For anything else, let's talk over at the GB thread!
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73278.0