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Offline Patrickwu

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Hello GeekHack
This is Patrick at NEO Keys (instagram: neokeys, GIVE AWAY will be done through instagram; Discord https://discord.gg/2MCKpQQ). I'm here to present you our first design Palette G67. The project started back in June and has gone through multiple stages of material test, design and samples and we're quite happy with what we have so far! And we'd love to hear some feedback and input from the community before release. 



Case Features
-   Acrylic sandwich structure, with fully isolated, gasket mounted switch plate. Switch plate is supported by 6 silicone and 6 EVA gaskets and completely hidden from sides of the case.
-   Laser cut acrylic case plates
-   Switch plate options: Carbon Fiber, Brass
-   6.5 degree typing angle
-   18 pre-set case color schemes and more to come..
-   Fully customizable case color. 20 colors for each of 11 acrylic layers, total over 409,600,000,000,000 possible combinations. And more to come..
-   Countersink holes only. All mounting screws will be flush with case surface.

PCB Features
-   QMK programmable
-   Hotswap and soldered(ISO, 7U spacebar, split BS compatible)
-   Per-switch SMD RGB light
-   RGB blacklight
-   Center mounted USB-C port

About the group buy
-   What's included in the kit?
Kit comes with 11 layers of acrylic (7 layers of case body, 4 layers feet), PCB, switch plate, silicone and EVA gaskets (with spare), titanium coated M2 screws, brass posts, allen wrenches, USB-C cable, a microfabric cloth

-   How much?
Kit in pre-set color scheme with carbon fiber plate - $140
Full custom color scheme +$10
Brass plate +$10
Shipping is not included. Expected to be $50 for US and Europe. Board will be shipped from Shenzhen China.

-   How to place order?
Custom features are far too complicated to be handled through order forms, so we set up a website for this group buy, link will be posted in the groupbuy thread.
And here is a preview of color customization interface. Sorry for not having a real time rendering page. When GB starts each day I will run a few renders requested by customers and post on IG.


-   MinOQ and MaxOQ?
Groupbuy will be on when order quantity hits 100. Maximum orders will be capped at 200.
First 50 orders will be shipped with a free acrylic lube station in random color.

-   When?
Groupbuy will start within a week or two depending on IC result on Oct. 23 Friday (as my account was registered on Aug. 21 and only 2 months old account is allowed to post in GB) and open for orders for 1-2 weeks depending on order numbers.
Lead time should be somewhere around 60-90 days.

Here are some renders of preset colors schemes.




Some photos of sample boards in Void and Dawn+GMK Cyan color scheme



Here is a sample of Palette in Eternity color scheme, which has 3 layers of frosted clears and 4 layers frosted pink, with a brushed brass plate.


Eternity built up with brass plates, ink red's.


Some buyer's customized color scheme renders:



Here are photos of sample plates, just to give you an preview of the actual colors.
Clear, Frosted Clear, Frosted Black, Red, Purple, Orange, Dark Blue, Light Blue, Cyan, Green, Yellow

Flo Orange, Flo Pink, Flo Yello, Flo Green, Flo Blue, Frosted Orange, Frosted Pink, Frosted Yellow, Frosted Cyan


If you have any questions, suggestions or feedback regarding the product or design, please feel free to post or DM or mail me at support@neokeys.net

I have received some quetions from Discord and via emails, I'm sharing the answers here as well. So here you go Q&A
How does the gasket structure work?
Here are some photos to explain the gasket structure.
Plate locates between second and fifth layer, supported by 12 silicone and EVA gaskets which are taped to the plate itself. The plate is completely hidden from all 4 sides of the case, giving the user the freedom to customize case color scheme.


Dimensions of the case and typing angles?
Here are some drawings and numbers. Opening for USB-C cable is 12mm wide.

By using 3 or all 4 layers of feet, you can have 5.3 or 6.9 typing angle.

Weight?
Complete board with brass plate weight - 810g
Copmlete board with carbon fiber plate weight - 630g




All progress will be posted in this thread.

2020.9.16 IC thread started.
2020.9.16 Updated lead time.
2020.9.17 Updated solder PCB with ISO, 7U space and Splite BS support; Product specs updated; Estimated shipping cost updated; Discord server set up; Eternity sample pic posted.
2020.9.18 GB date confirmed. It's embarassing but I just realized that my account can't post in GB subforum until Oct 22. But good thing is that it'll give me enough time to finish soldered PCB design.
2020.9.24 Updated with some drawings and numbers to answer questions from discord.
2020.9.26 Updated weight of board. Added some beautiful renders of colors schemes from buyer's customization.
2020.9.29 Updated sample plate photos
2020.10.15 Updated kit content
2020.10.21 Groupbuy starting in 2 days. IC thread locked.
« Last Edit: Wed, 21 October 2020, 05:45:13 by Patrickwu »
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Offline darthcapn

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 01:52:04 »
Interested. I'd buy this today lol.
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 01:58:09 »
Interested. I'd buy this today lol.
thanks for the support! That means a lot to us.
We'll have a couple more samples arriving by the weekend. Stay tuned!
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 02:05:43 »
Thought I was done with acrylic cases, nice touch with the "notebook divider" like tabs to see all the layer colors. Im in!

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 02:14:07 »
Thought I was done with acrylic cases, nice touch with the "notebook divider" like tabs to see all the layer colors. Im in!

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Thanks and welcome on board! 
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 02:27:01 »
This is pretty neat, I'm in if I can get a non-hotswap pcb version.

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 02:28:01 »
Hi, loving this.  Just curious, will there be florescent acrylic options?

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 02:35:06 »
Looks awesome!

Any plans for an ISO-layout?

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 02:48:49 »
Very interested in this board.

I love the large range of colour schemes. I know you are allowing customization but I wouldn't be able to think of good colour combos.?
You don't have any other place to keep up with this right? like an disc, insta or email list?


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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 02:59:21 »
Hi, loving this.  Just curious, will there be florescent acrylic options?

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my team is currently working on that. I dont think it'll be available by the time this groupbuy starts though. Stay tuned with us anyway. thanks!
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 03:00:34 »
Hi, loving this.  Just curious, will there be florescent acrylic options?

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yes there will be florescent green, orange, pink and blue. the sample board in Dawn actually has flo orange on 4th and 5th layers.
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 03:01:44 »
Looks awesome!

Any plans for an ISO-layout?

ISO should come with the soldered version PCB that we're currently working on. Not 100% sure it'll be available with this groupbuy though.
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 03:04:13 »
Very interested in this board.

I love the large range of colour schemes. I know you are allowing customization but I wouldn't be able to think of good colour combos.?
You don't have any other place to keep up with this right? like an disc, insta or email list?

Insta account is neokeys. I will have a website up soon with the order page for this groupbuy and constantly post updates there as well.
I dont really have time to manage discord at the moment...
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 03:08:44 »
Some additional questions

What lead time do you expect if this reaches 200 orders?
Where will these ship from?

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 03:20:12 »
Some additional questions

What lead time do you expect if this reaches 200 orders?
Where will these ship from?

Good question. Was about to post that info in the upcoming groupbuy thread.
lead time should be somewhere around 60-90 days.
Ship from Shenzhen China.
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 03:58:38 »
Interested

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 04:19:15 »



ISO should come with the soldered version PCB that we're currently working on. Not 100% sure it'll be available with this groupbuy though.

Love this, and +1 for iso support

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 04:29:06 »
consider my interest checked :thumb:

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 04:42:08 »
thanks guys!
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 05:19:35 »
Loving it!thunbs up!&& count me in!

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 05:27:16 »
I have seen quite a few layered board. The issue I have is the misalignment of layers either from the beginning or after a while. How will this board fare in terms of misalignment of the layers?
Also curious to see a few more pics of the bottom side of this board.

Honestly, the board looks quite good. However, I think it will be super light and 140 ish dollars would be a tad too much.

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 05:54:44 »
Looks awesome!

Any plans for an ISO-layout?

ISO should come with the soldered version PCB that we're currently working on. Not 100% sure it'll be available with this groupbuy though.

Interested in this if it's available with a soldered PCB and plate with the usual options (ISO, split backspace, 7u space, etc.)  :thumb: Great choice in default plate material too, I love CF  ;)

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 06:01:52 »
+1 for iso


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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 06:34:46 »
Looks awesome!

Any plans for an ISO-layout?

ISO should come with the soldered version PCB that we're currently working on. Not 100% sure it'll be available with this groupbuy though.

Interested in this if it's available with a soldered PCB and plate with the usual options (ISO, split backspace, 7u space, etc.)  :thumb: Great choice in default plate material too, I love CF  ;)

yep we're working on that. thanks for the feedback!
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 06:39:29 »
I was wondering if the top layer on the abyss and nova are clear or frosted. 
Thanks

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 06:39:36 »
Very cool, I'll say I'm interested in this.

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 06:43:02 »
I was wondering if the top layer on the abyss and nova are clear or frosted. 
Thanks

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Abyss top layer is a clear cyan.
Nova top layer is a clear.
I'll have a sample Abyss assembled and posted soon..
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 07:25:41 »
this looks so interesting and pretty!! hoping to get my hands on this.

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 08:29:43 »
I will definitely try to buy this when GB opens. Here for all of the custom color options.

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 09:01:05 »
Isn't this just a slightly different, GB version of the Kayak (A play on the Canoe)? The same materials, almost the same design, and a gasket plate are the only things that differentiate it from the kayak.

https://www.keebtalk.com/t/kayak-a-65-diy-keyboard/2724

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 10:47:22 »
Isn't this just a slightly different, GB version of the Kayak (A play on the Canoe)? The same materials, almost the same design, and a gasket plate are the only things that differentiate it from the kayak.

https://imgur.com/a/D6RDxdb

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 11:13:47 »
This makes for an interesting little board.  I would be interested if ISO was to become available.
Nice design by the way.
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 11:32:48 »
Are you guys going to have arctic blue frost acrylic color?

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 11:37:51 »
This makes for an interesting little board.  I would be interested if ISO was to become available.
Nice design by the way.
thanks. working on a soldered PCB design as we speak.
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 11:39:07 »
Are you guys going to have arctic blue frost acrylic color?
Not exactly sure if we're thinking the same color but check out the sample photo of Dawn, the first layer is a frost cyan, which might be the one..
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 11:40:19 »
this is pretty sweet!

a few questions:
1. can you estimate the shipping costs to germany?
2. the renders seem to have about 7 layers of acrylic, but you write that a kit will come with 11 layers?
3. ISO will definitely be available in a second round of gb a later time?

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 11:52:02 »
Is the top supposed to show the layered colors?

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 11:53:56 »
I'm in. Does this support split backspace?

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 12:12:52 »
Isn't this just a slightly different, GB version of the Kayak (A play on the Canoe)? The same materials, almost the same design, and a gasket plate are the only things that differentiate it from the kayak.

https://www.keebtalk.com/t/kayak-a-65-diy-keyboard/2724
The GB vs. homemade distinction, case detailing, and mounting type seem like pretty fundamental differences to me. Might as well say that every aluminum 65% is also basically the same - and maybe you'd be right along the same standards, but why nitpick here?

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 12:14:05 »
This is very nice! Fast fulfillment too!

Couple of questions tho:

1. Where's the IC?
2. Can i buy 2 boards, if possible 3?
3. Where will this ship from? I'm in Asia, i would like to use DHL Express, would that be possible?
4. Is there a Discord Server?
5. What's the QC/QA process for this boards? Just curious.

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 12:14:59 »
I am in, this is something I have been looking for the past 3 months

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 12:50:42 »
One day, ICs will be started that remember ISO users exist.

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 14:36:36 »
Very nice.  Hope I can snag one!

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 16:29:58 »
Love the Nova render! Will totally be trying to pick one up!
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 17:17:23 »
I'm in, as long as there will be a solder version or if this works with other 65% PCBs like the KBD67 that I can solder.

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 18:48:07 »
What's the expected price atm?

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 18:59:53 »
What's the expected price atm?

Price is in the IC $140 for base

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 19:38:05 »
Sign me up!

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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 23:05:04 »
this is pretty sweet!

a few questions:
1. can you estimate the shipping costs to germany?
2. the renders seem to have about 7 layers of acrylic, but you write that a kit will come with 11 layers?
3. ISO will definitely be available in a second round of gb a later time?
hey Norb, good quetions there.
1. I dont have a final packaging yet but if it's somewhere around 1.5-2.0kg, shipping cost should be $40
2. 7 layers for case body, 4 layers for the feet. I just can't seem to find a good camera angle to display them but they're there and you can customize their color. 
3. As so many folks are asking for ISO I might push back the GB a little bit and make it available for the first round.
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Re: [IC]NEO Palette G67 - Gasket, Acrylic, full customize color, 65%
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 23:07:48 »
Is the top supposed to show the layered colors?
If you mean the tabs design yes. The board is called Palette, you get to mix and match the colors and appreciate your work  :D
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