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Offline HorizonHorizontal

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Laying Down Desks - Looking For Help With My Desk - See Pics
« on: Fri, 02 June 2017, 13:13:10 »
Hi Guys

Please see pics of the desk I have built myself. I was tired of waiting for the Altwork Station to ship to international customers and didn't really want to have to fork out 5K+ as I have to pay import tax. So as I run a metal works business (Think Railings, Metal Fire Escapes) I though I would see what I could get my guys to do.I get a cumulative pain in my 'derriere' where the glut medius, hip and periformas get tight from sitting. The desk allows you to spend 3 or more hours a day horizontal, not adding to postural imbalances. 

Laying down working is not ideal from a brain function perspective. Having said this you can get a good level of work done. you can get 3 - 4 good sessions out this way of working. Because in no pain I can go on working for much longer, so even though brain is working slower some of this is made up by the amount of time you can spend in the chair.This is why my goal is to be able to tilt the whole structure, getting as vertical as I can with out putting stress on the other parts of the body. I am looking for ways to stay in the flat position whilst being at an angle. I am essentially looking at a way to be stuck to the surface in a manner which will not put stress, well too much stress on the supporting part / parts of the body. I will literally try anything so your thoughts please

I was using the Kinesis Advantage keyboard with this desk originally, though bring the hand that close together caused me tension in my scapula / trap muscles. This configuration with the ergodox is much better though not perfect fix its a step in the right direction. I think I may next to try the ergodox keyboard down next to my waist either side of me, so that my hand would be in the position closest to lying neutral. If you know of anyone who has done something like this please let me know.

If we can make a laying down feasible with a basic tilt mechanism which gets you up to 30 - 50 degrees, it could be made very cheaply and be plans could be made opensource so that people could make / print their parts. It would you back a few hundred dollars and actually be better for your posture than the Altwork Station.

Any help you guys can offer would be most welcome

Typing Lying down comes with its own unique set of problems. I have got past lot of them so if you even need any help please get in touch and I'll see if I can help

Many thanks,

Danny ( HorizonHorizontal )

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Re: Laying Down Desks - Looking For Help With My Desk - See Pics
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 02 June 2017, 14:13:04 »
Hahahahahahha... that ergodox tenting solution is great.. hahahaha...


I've tried out laying down.. Problem for me was cranial pressure..   


Normally when you're going to sleep, your blood pressure drops by alot, so even though you're horizontal, your head/brain isn't so pressurized.


But, if you're Awake, and actively using your mind,  then the laying position where the heart is now more in line with your head generates significantly greater pressure.


In my laying down position, i just kept getting a headache..




Eventually, I decided to do standing desk..  barefoot, with a soft (low density) rubber mat.

This worked out better than my laying down desk

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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 02 June 2017, 14:14:44 »
with your setup , you can probably easily convert it for a --leaning desk--.. so it's like a 3/4 way between laying down and standing.. perhaps that is an even better solution vs sitting or standing..

I've not explored this option yet.

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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 03 June 2017, 13:04:09 »
Looks like you've put in a thought on this.  I like your tactile approach to the ergodox.

I remember seeing a photo of a split kinesis advantage not too long ago.  It was a member's project.  Another option would be two one hand Maltrons.  Have you seen the twiddler keyboard?  Your typing speed would probably max out at 30 wps though...
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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 03 June 2017, 14:34:49 »
The tactile blue bits are Sugru. A handy material.

Yes will adapt to be at an angle. Will post up new adaptions. Yes you feel a little giidy when you get up after 45min or more

Would really like like to see the split advantage keyboard setup. A link would be much appreciated.


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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 04 June 2017, 14:49:28 »
Have you tried one of those kneeling chairs? Seems like an interesting way to distribute weight away from the bottom, though I don't know how comfortable it is for long periods of time.

I'm also interested - where are your elbows when using this? Raised, or resting against the mat?

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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 04 June 2017, 16:39:55 »
Have you tried one of those kneeling chairs? Seems like an interesting way to distribute weight away from the bottom, though I don't know how comfortable it is for long periods of time.
I've recently read that they're the worst thing ever. Hmm…

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 04 June 2017, 17:46:25 »
What about a massage table type setup with the screen/peripherals underneath so you can be fully supported but not completely horizontal?

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 07 June 2017, 15:52:07 »
Have you tried one of those kneeling chairs? Seems like an interesting way to distribute weight away from the bottom, though I don't know how comfortable it is for long periods of time.
I've recently read that they're the worst thing ever. Hmm…

I've been using one for over a year and like it. Tried different chairs in between, but always fall back to the Varier Thatsit. I wouldn't recommend it to everyone, though.
What I like most about it, is that it supports proper posture. I don't think it reduces your weight by any significant amount, unless you're actively lifting yourself.

Another thing... I replaced the original cushion of the chair with WonderGel. It eliminates any pressure points you might have, I don't know if that helps in your (OP) case. It feels weird at first, but when you get used to it, it really makes a difference. My only criticism is that they are generally quite small, but for the Varier the size was a near perfect. You might need to get two depending on your size and the chairs surface area.

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 07 June 2017, 19:05:09 »
Have you tried one of those kneeling chairs? Seems like an interesting way to distribute weight away from the bottom, though I don't know how comfortable it is for long periods of time.
I've recently read that they're the worst thing ever. Hmm…

I've been using one for over a year and like it. Tried different chairs in between, but always fall back to the Varier Thatsit. I wouldn't recommend it to everyone, though.
What I like most about it, is that it supports proper posture. I don't think it reduces your weight by any significant amount, unless you're actively lifting yourself.

Another thing... I replaced the original cushion of the chair with WonderGel. It eliminates any pressure points you might have, I don't know if that helps in your (OP) case. It feels weird at first, but when you get used to it, it really makes a difference. My only criticism is that they are generally quite small, but for the Varier the size was a near perfect. You might need to get two depending on your size and the chairs surface area.

i think this is not good for heavier guyz..   if you're lighter up top,  it should be fine.