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Offline hicks12

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White 105 keycaps for UK Filco?
« on: Sun, 24 July 2011, 13:48:57 »
As the title, where can i find a set of 105 keycaps for a filco keyboard in white? Dont want pad printed really, want something a bit more durable.

Cant seem to find much around that is viable to be shipped to the UK :(.

Any suggestions are appreciated :D

Offline hicks12

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White 105 keycaps for UK Filco?
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 25 July 2011, 19:27:43 »
Anyone? All i find is 104 keysets for white... incredibly annoying when i need 105 lol

Offline IvanIvanovich

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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 25 July 2011, 22:24:19 »
Easiest solution is get cheap Cherry G81 keyboard and take its keys. Sometimes you can still get new old stock with doubleshot keycap for a decent price. Look for model thats like g81-****H**GB. Or if laser etched is ok subsitute L for H when looking at model number.

Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 20:58:33 »
I too am looking for an 105 white engraved keycap set!

Where can we find those?

I've seen some posts mentioning Tao Bao but I have no idea how to shop there.

Also I was thinking about that 104 PBT white engraved set (in group buys) and then buy separately just the one missing key but I have no clue whether that is viable.
« Last Edit: Fri, 12 August 2011, 21:44:22 by F u r u y »
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Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 02:51:19 »
I guess that the solution (not the easiest) for us poor owners of an ISO 105 key is get these, an extra blank key and an individual smaller left-Shift that will fit our Filco. I guess that that would be the hardest part (the left-Shift).
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The dream would be PBT white engraved (ISO 105 keys - UK layout).
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Offline simplexity

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 16:47:34 »
Quote from: F u r u y ;398092
I guess that the solution (not the easiest) for us poor owners of an ISO 105 key is get these, an extra blank key and an individual smaller left-Shift that will fit our Filco. I guess that that would be the hardest part (the left-Shift).
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The dream would be PBT white engraved (ISO 105 keys - UK layout).


That wouldn't work, you still have no way of having the ISO enter.

FYI; the left shift is the same size and profile of the windows/alt/control keys.

Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 16:55:09 »
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That wouldn't work, you still have no way of having the ISO enter.

FYI; the left shift is the same size and profile of the windows/alt/control keys.


Oh that's true! Didn't notice that...

Thanks for the info. So the spare keys needed would be:
  • one for the 4th row
  • one alt/control
  • one "bigass" ISO enter


Other concern is the stabilizers (must match Filco). I don't know/didn't looked wiki yet whether we can fit a key with different stabilizer but I guess we can't.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 20:27:23 »
Quote from: F u r u y ;398387

  • one "bigass" ISO enter



Bigass and iso enter are two different things
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Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 20:38:29 »
Quote from: The Solutor;398475
Bigass and iso enter are two different things

So please enlighten me if you don't mind.
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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 20:39:54 »
Quote from: F u r u y ;398387
Oh that's true! Didn't notice that...

Thanks for the info. So the spare keys needed would be:
  • one for the 4th row
  • one alt/control
  • one "bigass" ISO enter

Other concern is the stabilizers (must match Filco). I don't know/didn't looked wiki yet whether we can fit a key with different stabilizer but I guess we can't.

Oh I missed on extra key in the 3rd row too, next to the Enter.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 20:51:00 »
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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 20:54:45 »
Quote from: The Solutor;398481
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thx!

sry for the noob questions
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 21:01:40 »
Quote from: F u r u y ;398482
thx!

sry for the noob questions


BTW Big Asian or Big ass is a way (a bit depreciative) commonly used here, but has nothing to do with it's origin.

This is an US model F



This an US IBM typewriter.

« Last Edit: Sun, 14 August 2011, 05:29:33 by The Solutor »
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Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 03:47:42 »
nice info The Solutor.


Quote from: lysol;387179
Easiest solution is get cheap Cherry G81 keyboard and take its keys. Sometimes you can still get new old stock with doubleshot keycap for a decent price. Look for model thats like g81-****H**GB. Or if laser etched is ok subsitute L for H when looking at model number.
Browsing Tao Bao I've found this one which has the desired layout:

G80-3000LSCXX-0 (MX Blue)
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If it had MX Clears I'd buy since I would use both the keycaps and the switches (to make Ergo clears). But I've read that Cherry spacebar won't fit Filco.
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Offline simplexity

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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 04:57:07 »
Quote from: F u r u y ;398387
Oh that's true! Didn't notice that...

Thanks for the info. So the spare keys needed would be:
  • one for the 4th row
  • one alt/control
  • one "bigass" ISO enter


Other concern is the stabilizers (must match Filco). I don't know/didn't looked wiki yet whether we can fit a key with different stabilizer but I guess we can't.


WASDkeyboards carry all that except for the ISO enter.

Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 05:32:31 »
Quote from: simplexity;398612
WASDkeyboards carry all that except for the ISO enter.


And two missing keys, and a wrong shift.
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Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 05:40:23 »
Quote from: simplexity;398612
WASDkeyboards carry all that except for the ISO enter.

Yes (I've posted it in the other thread), and the good thing is that the space bar will fit Filco. But I'm serioulsy considering the Cherry above (besides the keycaps, I'll be able to test the blues). God I think I'm going broke 'cause of those geeky stuff!
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Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 05:42:06 »
Quote from: The Solutor;398614
And two missing keys, and a wrong shift.
Those are also available to buy individually in WASD.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 05:54:31 »
Yes, right, I always forgot that filcos have the ISO shift sized the same as the ALT and Control keys, so an ANSI ALT can be used as Left shift.
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Offline Feign

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 18 August 2011, 15:53:52 »
I would also like a Blank White PBT ISO key cap set. Has anyone found a way of getting this? Would it be viable to get a group buy on the go?

Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 18 August 2011, 18:49:47 »
Feign,

WASD Keyboars will release ISO ABS set late 2011/early 2012.
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Offline Feign

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« Reply #21 on: Fri, 19 August 2011, 08:25:45 »
Thanks, Furuya. I did read about that earlier. It seems it would be best solution if it is too hard to get PBT. Still have to wait 3-4 months.

Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 19 August 2011, 08:43:53 »
There's also Double-shots Round 4 in group buys. They have ISO layout in their list.

About same ETA. 6 months. :rolleyes:
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Offline hicks12

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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 29 August 2011, 13:24:37 »
been on holiday so didnt notice my thread got a fair few replies :D.

Furuya, that looks interesting but im being really retarded here and dont fully understand how i should format my order for keys that are: White keys, black text, uk layout
would this be correct?

RETRO/STD/BLACK/WHITE 1
RETRO/UK/BLACK/WHITE 1
TOOL 1

Now where is the price list...apparently 78 USD + 14 shipping so = $92, holly crap have i got this price wrong? 30 for PBT engraved, 56 for this kit is half the keyboard :P... guess ill just leave this until funds are actually available!

Offline F u r u y

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 06:07:29 »
I haven't tried it yet! So I'm comptetely clueless, sorry. You can just try it and see if the confirmation message matches what you wanted to order. Just send a PM to the "bot" and see what confirmation you receive.
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