Post by: Wilba on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:49:28
NOW AVAILABLE FOR PREORDER!
https://r.works/thermal
https://r.works/thermal
ORIGINAL IC
wilba.tech Thermal
Thermal is a new custom keyboard design by wilba.tech (https://wilba.tech) and follows the well received Zephyr production.
Inspired by brutalist architecture, vintage computers, and big, black heatsinks, Thermal eschews curves in favor of brutally sharp edges only marginally dulled by thin bevels.
(https://i.imgur.com/o1VvErG.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/yarBRMi.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/g5xB1CL.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/VOecCW8.png)
Technical Specs
* subject to change
- Case Design: wilba.tech (https://wilba.tech)
- Case: Milled Aluminum, Bead blasted, Anodized
- Case Colors: Black, Red, Silver, Grey
- Case Top Options: HHKB Blockers, No Blockers
- Case Slope Angle: 8.0°
- Plate: Milled Aluminum, Bead blasted, Anodized, 1.5mm thick
- Plate Colors: Black, Red, Silver, Grey
- Plate Mount Style: Leaf Spring (details to come!)
- Plate Layout: Single mostly fixed layout design, with fixed 7U bottom row (i.e. HHKB and WKL), fixed split right-shift, optional 2U/split backspace, optional stepped/full Caps Lock
- PCB: wilba.tech WT60-B PCB (solderable) with in-switch RGB, daughterboard USB-C, QMK/VIA Configurator
- Producer: The Foundry/Rama Works (https://r.works/)
- Prototype: Soon
- Pre-order launch date: May
- Cost: TBD
- Optional Extras: Plates, PCBs, switches and stabilizers
- Renders: Zambumon
Keyboard Gallery
Thermal with GMK Metaverse
(https://i.imgur.com/4oz5Fme.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/nRqu6rI.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/IZR0mJQ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Gm8PRgn.png)
Thermal with GMK Jamón
(https://i.imgur.com/FvNCC7I.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sNx4fHf.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/AXRNo03.png)
Thermal with GMK Metaverse
(https://i.imgur.com/DRKHHSi.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/MkO2naq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/3aR0F2S.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/HOhUMKg.png)
Thermal with GMK Olivia
(https://i.imgur.com/xaPHjxE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/TIuD6Jd.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qm8lZnQ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
Thermal with GMK Jamón
(https://i.imgur.com/3ViJ41L.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/FOvoSUx.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/G7NC3qw.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/rCgyPWQ.png)
Thermal with Classic Beige
(https://i.imgur.com/I8jEIyz.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/EgganU3.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/MJoUis7.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/8TAugjm.png)
Thermal with GMK Olive
(https://i.imgur.com/22cblV3.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/NllMcJ7.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/7F9tK19.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ozQZF7K.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/vd2sVaI.png)
Links of interest
- Follow me on Instagram (https://instagram.com/wilba6582)
- Chat on Discord (https://discord.gg/KMFGRnp)
- Website: wilba.tech (https://wilba.tech)
Special Thanks
Zambumon, Pwner (ION Keyboards), riotonthebay (Keycult), Zeal, Olivia, Rama & Kate, janglad, imprevade
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:49:49
Designed by Wilba and Rama Works, these limited edition keycaps draw inspiration from Thermal's design and give both visual and tactile pleasure.
They are Cherry Profile - Escape Row (R1) with Cherry MX stem and made from aluminum.
They will be available for sale during the Thermal pre-order.
Thanks to Kate and Rama for supporting and collaborating on this concept, and providing these incredible renders!
Link to Album (https://imgur.com/a/XwZ569W)
THERMAL BLACK - Black Anodized Aluminium
(https://i.imgur.com/Ekjt96A.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/YwMtorW.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PGCt3Bp.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/X08ROqe.jpg)
THERMAL RED - Red Anodized Aluminium
(https://i.imgur.com/1zFAs0n.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/3p5twV2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/AMArwq2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PZxrwa2.jpg)
THERMAL RAW - Polished Raw Aluminium
(https://i.imgur.com/spZk85y.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/11wJoWu.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/rbBlMxr.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1ySIqbr.jpg)
Post by: nephlock on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:51:20
Post by: clasicks on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:52:13
Looks neat, any renders with the standard top?
Post by: mdlt97 on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:52:57
Post by: jortzii on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:54:02
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Post by: Zeal on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:54:56
Post by: Rogue_Jellybean on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:56:28
- Plate Mount Style: Leaf Spring (details to come!)
Hype
Post by: bthezebra on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:58:47
Post by: unluckyxiii on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:59:48
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Post by: pilotxj on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:00:48
Post by: airlangga07 on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:03:15
Post by: Captain Shwah on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:04:14
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:09:36
"Case Top Options: HHKB Blockers, No Blockers"x2. I mean I can mentally visualize what it would look like, like any other 60%, but a visual would go a long way. Will be following for further updates, looks great Wilba!
Looks neat, any renders with the standard top?
Post by: Starston3 on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:19:05
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:21:02
Post by: onefivenine on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:25:41
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:27:47
ne hotswap avail?
If you used an M60-A PCB ;D
Post by: nasp on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:35:20
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:58:49
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:07:54
"Case Top Options: HHKB Blockers, No Blockers"x2. I mean I can mentally visualize what it would look like, like any other 60%, but a visual would go a long way. Will be following for further updates, looks great Wilba!
Looks neat, any renders with the standard top?
Same here.
This looks so dope, I'm in!
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:16:02
Post by: The_Boom_Boy on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:20:14
Post by: braidn on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:20:43
Post by: JohnWest on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:27:44
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:40:33
Finally, an innovator with the courage to be inspired by brutalist architecture.
and vintage computers:
(https://i.imgur.com/vz9oGQT.jpg)
Post by: mgsickler on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:40:33
Post by: cijanzen on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:44:38
Finally, an innovator with the courage to be inspired by brutalist architecture.
and vintage computers:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vz9oGQT.jpg)
But also architecture!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190302/8c1550c6a410ca2043831a195814ce94.jpg)
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Post by: hineybush on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:46:13
Post by: xondat on Fri, 01 March 2019, 21:47:13
Finally, an innovator with the courage to be inspired by brutalist architecture.
Hope he adds a headphone jack too.
Post by: zstsc on Fri, 01 March 2019, 22:10:38
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 01 March 2019, 22:13:10
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 01 March 2019, 22:17:15
There must be an option for concrete right?
Haha
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 01 March 2019, 22:19:13
Wilba can we see the backside? Will it have like a brass plate with engraving like the zephyr?
Scroll up, there is a render of two red cases on their sides.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 01 March 2019, 22:37:26
Post by: vicissitude on Fri, 01 March 2019, 22:59:35
wait for more real pics.
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Fri, 01 March 2019, 23:04:34
Post by: hhkbp2 on Fri, 01 March 2019, 23:04:43
Could we have color blue as an option too?
Post by: h3xadat on Fri, 01 March 2019, 23:09:23
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Sat, 02 March 2019, 01:16:37
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 02 March 2019, 01:27:14
Since the PCB is Zeal60, I assume the case and plate would fit other 60% PCBs, right? Will We be able to buy this kit without the PCB? The Zeal60 has way too many features for my personal need.
Post by: mushubanane on Sat, 02 March 2019, 01:31:28
Post by: futurecrime on Sat, 02 March 2019, 01:36:58
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 02 March 2019, 01:40:40
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 02 March 2019, 01:51:16
Post by: bard on Sat, 02 March 2019, 03:15:10
when can we expect a demo with a prototype? ;)
Post by: Liocer on Sat, 02 March 2019, 04:21:31
Post by: GigaFlop on Sat, 02 March 2019, 07:41:29
Any word on what colors will be available? I'm trying to think of how to make it look distinct in my collection.
Post by: AlexG on Sat, 02 March 2019, 08:09:35
Post by: koduh on Sat, 02 March 2019, 09:30:54
Post by: matrixzj on Sat, 02 March 2019, 09:59:02
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 02 March 2019, 10:08:06
Interested. Is there any pictures from bottom? I want to know weight design for it.
Any word on what colors will be available? I'm trying to think of how to make it look distinct in my collection.
There's a list of the colours that will be made available as well as a render of two red cases turned on their side which show the bottom case design in the OP.
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 02 March 2019, 10:38:25
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 02 March 2019, 10:52:04
Really dope Wilba, with the zeal60 supporting iso, any chance of a separate ISO plate? Or just a modded ISO plate file. So we can make lovely ISO plates for it? :)
I'm planning on only one plate design with minimal "options" to please the most people and optimizing the number of different "parts" to keep the cost down.
The plate files will be available for people to make their own. I might even make an ISO version just for you ;D
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 11:17:28
Really dope Wilba, with the zeal60 supporting iso, any chance of a separate ISO plate? Or just a modded ISO plate file. So we can make lovely ISO plates for it? :)
I'm planning on only one plate design with minimal "options" to please the most people and optimizing the number of different "parts" to keep the cost down.
The plate files will be available for people to make their own. I might even make an ISO version just for you ;D
Great!!!
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 11:18:03
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 02 March 2019, 11:48:14
Really dope Wilba, with the zeal60 supporting iso, any chance of a separate ISO plate? Or just a modded ISO plate file. So we can make lovely ISO plates for it? :)
I'm planning on only one plate design with minimal "options" to please the most people and optimizing the number of different "parts" to keep the cost down.
The plate files will be available for people to make their own. I might even make an ISO version just for you ;D
:-*
Post by: sntXrrr on Sat, 02 March 2019, 12:16:14
Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 02 March 2019, 13:20:01
I'm so in.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 13:32:57
This design has such a strong emphasis on the horizontal I think it would look great as a 65% or with a numpad, or vertical function keys on a side. Still interested in the 60% version though, please include some renders with that layout.
I’d also be interested in a 65%
Post by: rowie on Sat, 02 March 2019, 13:34:29
This design has such a strong emphasis on the horizontal I think it would look great as a 65% or with a numpad, or vertical function keys on a side. Still interested in the 60% version though, please include some renders with that layout.
I’d also be interested in a 65%
Make that 3.
Post by: lolafineday on Sat, 02 March 2019, 13:35:22
Make it 4!This design has such a strong emphasis on the horizontal I think it would look great as a 65% or with a numpad, or vertical function keys on a side. Still interested in the 60% version though, please include some renders with that layout.
I’d also be interested in a 65%
Make that 3.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 14:01:43
Make it 4!This design has such a strong emphasis on the horizontal I think it would look great as a 65% or with a numpad, or vertical function keys on a side. Still interested in the 60% version though, please include some renders with that layout.
I’d also be interested in a 65%
Make that 3.
Make it 5, I will buy 2 :)
Post by: bobdenard on Sat, 02 March 2019, 14:02:29
Post by: tpict on Sat, 02 March 2019, 14:17:56
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 14:34:31
i'm happy to see such a nice 60 with all the 65s going around at the moment 🤗 looking forward to hearing details on the mounting design
Gasket pls!
Post by: tpict on Sat, 02 March 2019, 14:39:05
i'm happy to see such a nice 60 with all the 65s going around at the moment 🤗 looking forward to hearing details on the mounting design
Gasket pls!
first post says leaf spring mount, which is novel afaik but i imagine it will share some properties with gasket mount!
Post by: ddnomad on Sat, 02 March 2019, 14:44:23
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 14:54:35
i'm happy to see such a nice 60 with all the 65s going around at the moment 🤗 looking forward to hearing details on the mounting design
Gasket pls!
first post says leaf spring mount, which is novel afaik but i imagine it will share some properties with gasket mount!
Thanks! Sounds interesting!
Post by: OtherAndrew on Sat, 02 March 2019, 14:55:46
Post by: nasp on Sat, 02 March 2019, 15:51:03
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 02 March 2019, 16:21:01
Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 02 March 2019, 17:05:56
Is the showed layout the only one available?
No.
From the OP:
Quote
- Case Top Options: HHKB Blockers, No Blockers
[...]- Plate Layout: Single mostly fixed layout design, with fixed 7U bottom row (i.e. HHKB and WKL), fixed split right-shift, optional 2U/split backspace, optional stepped/full Caps Lock
Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 02 March 2019, 17:10:02
i'm happy to see such a nice 60 with all the 65s going around at the moment 🤗 looking forward to hearing details on the mounting design
Gasket pls!
first post says leaf spring mount, which is novel afaik but i imagine it will share some properties with gasket mount!
Yes. Both methods are plate mounting systems. Different concept and approach to how the plate is mounted.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 18:16:06
i'm happy to see such a nice 60 with all the 65s going around at the moment 🤗 looking forward to hearing details on the mounting design
Gasket pls!
Btw, congrats on the Jamon GB! It’s a pity we didn’t push to 1000 sets! But it’s good results!
first post says leaf spring mount, which is novel afaik but i imagine it will share some properties with gasket mount!
Yes. Both methods are plate mounting systems. Different concept and approach to how the plate is mounted.
Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 02 March 2019, 18:21:10
i'm happy to see such a nice 60 with all the 65s going around at the moment 🤗 looking forward to hearing details on the mounting design
Gasket pls!
Btw, congrats on the Jamon GB! It’s a pity we didn’t push to 1000 sets! But it’s good results!
first post says leaf spring mount, which is novel afaik but i imagine it will share some properties with gasket mount!
Yes. Both methods are plate mounting systems. Different concept and approach to how the plate is mounted.
Yes.
Post by: nu_types on Sat, 02 March 2019, 21:49:59
Finally, an innovator with the courage to be inspired by brutalist architecture.
Hope he adds a headphone jack too.
+1 add a dac and amp to it to seal the deal.
Post by: Rykno on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:07:50
Post by: Starston3 on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:09:32
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190303/b275a4618503d69356839d9b74f55c96.jpg)Finally, an innovator with the courage to be inspired by brutalist architecture.
Hope he adds a headphone jack too.
+1 add a dac and amp to it to seal the deal.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:09:55
Finally, an innovator with the courage to be inspired by brutalist architecture.
Hope he adds a headphone jack too.
+1 add a dac and amp to it to seal the deal.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190303/b275a4618503d69356839d9b74f55c96.jpg)
wow
Post by: GigaFlop on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:46:40
Make it 4!This design has such a strong emphasis on the horizontal I think it would look great as a 65% or with a numpad, or vertical function keys on a side. Still interested in the 60% version though, please include some renders with that layout.
I’d also be interested in a 65%
Make that 3.
Make it 5, I will buy 2 :)
65% is love, 65% is life.
Ah, the pretty pictures distracted me. The red is sexy, but I'll have to consider the red Tokyo60 I've already got.Any word on what colors will be available? I'm trying to think of how to make it look distinct in my collection.
There's a list of the colours that will be made available as well as a render of two red cases turned on their side which show the bottom case design in the OP.
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Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 March 2019, 00:02:49
Make it 4!This design has such a strong emphasis on the horizontal I think it would look great as a 65% or with a numpad, or vertical function keys on a side. Still interested in the 60% version though, please include some renders with that layout.
I’d also be interested in a 65%
Make that 3.
Make it 5, I will buy 2 :)
65% is love, 65% is life.Ah, the pretty pictures distracted me. The red is sexy, but I'll have to consider the red Tokyo60 I've already got.Any word on what colors will be available? I'm trying to think of how to make it look distinct in my collection.
There's a list of the colours that will be made available as well as a render of two red cases turned on their side which show the bottom case design in the OP.
Very different and unique design though. Why not have both :)
Post by: gutsack on Sun, 03 March 2019, 02:51:18
Post by: empa on Sun, 03 March 2019, 04:09:21
Post by: heyitsqi on Sun, 03 March 2019, 04:32:45
Post by: Owl- on Sun, 03 March 2019, 04:39:58
Post by: lolafineday on Sun, 03 March 2019, 13:28:57
I would seriously love to see this in dark navy blue as a colour option.Yeah I would also life that, but on his discord he had said no more anodized colors. These colors he has released are final.
Post by: ptiede on Sun, 03 March 2019, 13:35:22
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 03 March 2019, 14:28:48
Must buy for me! Now I just need to find a keyset that will go with the black and red aesthetic.
Check the OP, there are some examples.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 March 2019, 14:53:07
Must buy for me! Now I just need to find a keyset that will go with the black and red aesthetic.
GMK Jamon
Post by: nasp on Sun, 03 March 2019, 15:03:11
If I wanted a custom color, could I ask for a raw plate so that I could take this somewhere to have it done in a color of my choosing?
Post by: ptiede on Sun, 03 March 2019, 15:11:03
Must buy for me! Now I just need to find a keyset that will go with the black and red aesthetic.
GMK Jamon
That's going on my leaf 60 :p
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 March 2019, 15:45:03
Must buy for me! Now I just need to find a keyset that will go with the black and red aesthetic.
GMK Jamon
That's going on my leaf 60 :p
There is also GMK Red Samurai :)
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 03 March 2019, 19:39:35
So is the switch plate what's in the middle causing the accented color?
Yes.
If I wanted a custom color, could I ask for a raw plate so that I could take this somewhere to have it done in a color of my choosing?
You can get an anodized plate and get the anodization stripped before anodizing again in a new color, it's preferable to produce/ship "raw" plates as it also protects the surface. I do not know the technical details of whether stripping a neutral color like silver is better or not, but that is what I would do.
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 03 March 2019, 19:42:11
If I wanted a custom color, could I ask for a raw plate so that I could take this somewhere to have it done in a color of my choosing?
I would also recommend experimenting with reanodizing on an extra plate ;)
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 March 2019, 20:54:30
If I wanted a custom color, could I ask for a raw plate so that I could take this somewhere to have it done in a color of my choosing?
I would also recommend experimenting with reanodizing on an extra plate ;)
Yeah re-ano is pretty doable
Post by: nasp on Sun, 03 March 2019, 21:42:18
If I wanted a custom color, could I ask for a raw plate so that I could take this somewhere to have it done in a color of my choosing?
I would also recommend experimenting with reanodizing on an extra plate ;)
Fine...l'll order two plates 🤗
Post by: Owl- on Mon, 04 March 2019, 02:28:39
Yeah I would also life that, but on his discord he had said no more anodized colors. These colors he has released are final.
:'( I had high hopes that this was going to be my first and only navy blue keeb when I first saw this (https://zambumon.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/sb_lv_1.png)
I'm aware that there's a number of other blue boards out there but I made a pass on them all for this :(
While this IC is running, still hoping you could consider deep navy blue again, wilba!
Post by: Wetherbee on Mon, 04 March 2019, 02:41:50
Post by: Emir on Mon, 04 March 2019, 02:43:59
Post by: Wilba on Mon, 04 March 2019, 03:38:11
Yeah I would also life that, but on his discord he had said no more anodized colors. These colors he has released are final.
:'( I had high hopes that this was going to be my first and only navy blue keeb when I first saw thisShow Image(https://zambumon.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/sb_lv_1.png)
I'm aware that there's a number of other blue boards out there but I made a pass on them all for this :(
While this IC is running, still hoping you could consider deep navy blue again, wilba!
I would like to offer more colors, but I am trying to optimize for price, and also use a "palette" for each round (assuming this is popular enough to even reach MOQ for one round!)
So a navy blue Thermal might happen one day, perhaps after GMK Striker? Who knows...
Post by: Xynerorias on Mon, 04 March 2019, 03:44:34
My wallet not so much
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Post by: sJ1N on Mon, 04 March 2019, 11:41:35
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 11:53:40
Yeah I would also life that, but on his discord he had said no more anodized colors. These colors he has released are final.
:'( I had high hopes that this was going to be my first and only navy blue keeb when I first saw thisShow Image(https://zambumon.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/sb_lv_1.png)
I'm aware that there's a number of other blue boards out there but I made a pass on them all for this :(
While this IC is running, still hoping you could consider deep navy blue again, wilba!
I would like to offer more colors, but I am trying to optimize for price, and also use a "palette" for each round (assuming this is popular enough to even reach MOQ for one round!)
So a navy blue Thermal might happen one day, perhaps after GMK Striker? Who knows...
Any estimate for price now? :)
Post by: dubious on Mon, 04 March 2019, 12:11:48
Finally, an innovator with the courage to be inspired by brutalist architecture.
and vintage computers:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vz9oGQT.jpg)
But also architecture!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190302/8c1550c6a410ca2043831a195814ce94.jpg)
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and vintage computers
(http://i.imgur.com/3HKRn.jpg)
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 12:40:24
Finally, an innovator with the courage to be inspired by brutalist architecture.
and vintage computers:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vz9oGQT.jpg)
But also architecture!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190302/8c1550c6a410ca2043831a195814ce94.jpg)
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and vintage computersShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3HKRn.jpg)
And new boards too :)
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Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 04 March 2019, 12:41:46
and moviesFinally, an innovator with the courage to be inspired by brutalist architecture.
and vintage computers:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vz9oGQT.jpg)
But also architecture!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190302/8c1550c6a410ca2043831a195814ce94.jpg)
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and vintage computersShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3HKRn.jpg)
And new boards too :)
(Attachment Link)
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Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 04 March 2019, 12:48:44
(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 04 March 2019, 12:49:53
Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 04 March 2019, 12:52:28
Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
Yes
(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 04 March 2019, 12:54:57
Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
YesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
I might need to get some Trybosys rn
Post by: iaman on Mon, 04 March 2019, 13:24:14
Really looking forward to seeing the results of somebody trying to reano that silver plate to be the Olivia pink :-*Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
YesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 04 March 2019, 13:58:10
Really looking forward to seeing the results of somebody trying to reano that silver plate to be the Olivia pink :-*Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
YesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
Rose Gold != Pink.
Thanks.
Post by: Owl- on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:00:53
I would like to offer more colors, but I am trying to optimize for price, and also use a "palette" for each round (assuming this is popular enough to even reach MOQ for one round!)
So a navy blue Thermal might happen one day, perhaps after GMK Striker? Who knows...
Very understandable, thank you for sharing your thoughts. And eagerly waiting for that day to come!
Post by: iaman on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:05:30
Depends on how you bucket colors, but I will oblige that you are correct about it most specifically being rose gold.Really looking forward to seeing the results of somebody trying to reano that silver plate to be the Olivia pink :-*Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
YesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
Rose Gold != Pink.
Thanks.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:40:19
Depends on how you bucket colors, but I will oblige that you are correct about it most specifically being rose gold.Really looking forward to seeing the results of somebody trying to reano that silver plate to be the Olivia pink :-*Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
YesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
Rose Gold != Pink.
Thanks.
Does plate color matter that much? I guess maybe for this one as the plat extends to the middle of the sandwich?
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:45:52
Depends on how you bucket colors, but I will oblige that you are correct about it most specifically being rose gold.Really looking forward to seeing the results of somebody trying to reano that silver plate to be the Olivia pink :-*Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
YesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
Rose Gold != Pink.
Thanks.
Does plate color matter that much? I guess maybe for this one as the plat extends to the middle of the sandwich?
Plate color matters. This round of thermal has a courageous lineup of red, black, and silver and you can see in the OP how Wilba wants to play with those three colors. It looks refreshing to me.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:56:50
Depends on how you bucket colors, but I will oblige that you are correct about it most specifically being rose gold.Really looking forward to seeing the results of somebody trying to reano that silver plate to be the Olivia pink :-*Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
YesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
Rose Gold != Pink.
Thanks.
Does plate color matter that much? I guess maybe for this one as the plat extends to the middle of the sandwich?
Plate color matters. This round of thermal has a courageous lineup of red, black, and silver and you can see in the OP how Wilba wants to play with those three colors. It looks refreshing to me.
That's true. I guess typically they dont as much, but for this one it does very much!
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:07:29
Plate color matters. This round of thermal has a courageous lineup of red, black, and silver and you can see in the OP how Wilba wants to play with those three colors. It looks refreshing to me.
I agree. Plate color shows through. Keyboards at this level are more than just tools; they're pretty much functional works of art.
I personally am looking forward to the black plate.
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:08:08
Depends on how you bucket colors, but I will oblige that you are correct about it most specifically being rose gold.Really looking forward to seeing the results of somebody trying to reano that silver plate to be the Olivia pink :-*Someone asked for a bottom view:Ohh are the grills angled upwards? Btw that is sexyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/94kTfKm.jpg)
YesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YFSBOEV.png)
Rose Gold != Pink.
Thanks.
Does plate color matter that much? I guess maybe for this one as the plat extends to the middle of the sandwich?
Plate color matters. This round of thermal has a courageous lineup of red, black, and silver and you can see in the OP how Wilba wants to play with those three colors. It looks refreshing to me.
That's true. I guess typically they dont as much, but for this one it does very much!
Thermal's plate design is not a bug, it's a feature.
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:09:25
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:22:55
I wonder if this keyboard will sound different than other keebs...
i am sure it will
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:32:08
I wonder if this keyboard will sound different than other keebs...
i am sure it will
nice
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:51:46
I wonder if this keyboard will sound different than other keebs...
The sound of courage, innovation, benchmark, and equilibrium.
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:52:54
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190304/e2b8e667c2f19e76ab5822ec30669910.jpg)I wonder if this keyboard will sound different than other keebs...
The sound of courage, innovation, benchmark, and equilibrium.
Post by: steezkeez on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:58:45
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:20:11
Just joking, but if it actually does... yes, please.
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:27:08
So this is going to sound like a giant SKCM blue Alps switch with every keypress, right?I can only get so hard
Just joking, but if it actually does... yes, please.
Post by: Steerpike on Mon, 04 March 2019, 18:16:25
Post by: steezkeez on Mon, 04 March 2019, 18:48:49
I would pay money for this.
Big if true
Post by: nasp on Tue, 05 March 2019, 02:32:39
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 05 March 2019, 02:37:00
Will brass plates be an option?
I am keeping the number of options small to make this simple, and also the design is better suited to aluminum. Brass plates might be available in a later group buy, perhaps... ;D
Post by: lolafineday on Tue, 05 March 2019, 03:24:19
Ohhh that’s nice like an extra plate by itself with more colorWill brass plates be an option?
I am keeping the number of options small to make this simple, and also the design is better suited to aluminum. Brass plates might be available in a later group buy, perhaps... ;D
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Tue, 05 March 2019, 06:16:20
Will brass plates be an option?
I am keeping the number of options small to make this simple, and also the design is better suited to aluminum. Brass plates might be available in a later group buy, perhaps... ;D
I'd also prefer a brass plate. But you said you'd release plate files later huh?
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 05 March 2019, 12:24:31
Will brass plates be an option?
I am keeping the number of options small to make this simple, and also the design is better suited to aluminum. Brass plates might be available in a later group buy, perhaps... ;D
I'd also prefer a brass plate. But you said you'd release plate files later huh?
Definitely, I will support anyone who wants to make their own plate for different layouts, material, colors, etc.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 March 2019, 12:31:39
Will brass plates be an option?
I am keeping the number of options small to make this simple, and also the design is better suited to aluminum. Brass plates might be available in a later group buy, perhaps... ;D
I'd also prefer a brass plate. But you said you'd release plate files later huh?
Definitely, I will support anyone who wants to make their own plate for different layouts, material, colors, etc.
Great!
Post by: dbrc on Tue, 05 March 2019, 14:39:43
Post by: Steerpike on Sat, 09 March 2019, 18:46:27
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 09 March 2019, 18:49:57
Any ballpark estimates for a date? Zeal is Canadian I believe? I'd normally be a little more indecisive about dropping $$ on another keyboard but it looks awesome and no duty tax would be a nice win.
Also would like to know the estimated price. Very interested in this board.
Post by: lolafineday on Sat, 09 March 2019, 18:50:41
I too would like to know a estimated priceAny ballpark estimates for a date? Zeal is Canadian I believe? I'd normally be a little more indecisive about dropping $$ on another keyboard but it looks awesome and no duty tax would be a nice win.
Also would like to know the estimated price. Very interested in this board.
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Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 09 March 2019, 19:14:08
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 09 March 2019, 19:31:40
I just need the Thermal.. and a RED/BLACK ZEAL60 :-*
Thermal edition Zeal60 in red/black might happen
Post by: lolafineday on Sat, 09 March 2019, 19:32:31
YumI just need the Thermal.. and a RED/BLACK ZEAL60 :-*
Thermal edition Zeal60 in red/black might happen
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Post by: pcire on Sun, 10 March 2019, 00:40:50
Post by: snelltrail on Mon, 11 March 2019, 04:56:39
Post by: Steerpike on Tue, 12 March 2019, 06:24:00
Post by: iaman on Tue, 12 March 2019, 07:28:11
Did anyone else ever own a Sega Master System? The renders remind me of that console, nostalgia!Mine’s a few feet away and I have to agree!
Post by: regionfree on Tue, 12 March 2019, 07:36:53
Post by: TheMastermind on Tue, 12 March 2019, 09:42:03
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 12 March 2019, 09:49:17
If this GB happens, would it be a regular GB or a fcfs basis?
The plan is for it to be a regular GB (pre-orders through Zeal PC).
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 12 March 2019, 09:53:25
"Case Top Options: HHKB Blockers, No Blockers"x2. I mean I can mentally visualize what it would look like, like any other 60%, but a visual would go a long way. Will be following for further updates, looks great Wilba!
Looks neat, any renders with the standard top?
Same here.
This looks so dope, I'm in!
Scrolled through the thread again - Saw you responded to bottom photos - is the standard top still being considered?
Post by: BlankeyGotCaps on Tue, 12 March 2019, 09:54:52
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 12 March 2019, 09:56:37
[Scrolled through the thread again - Saw you responded to bottom photos - is the standard top still being considered?
Yes. When I have renders of this, I will post them.
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 12 March 2019, 17:57:01
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 12 March 2019, 19:43:42
New renders added to original post, showing the "no blocker" case. Thanks Zambumon!
Prototype case is in production.
I am working with Rama to produce a Thermal keycap. :eek:
Post by: Dead Encryption on Tue, 12 March 2019, 21:23:14
Post by: nasp on Tue, 12 March 2019, 21:58:15
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 13 March 2019, 01:54:59
UPDATES:
New renders added to original post, showing the "no blocker" case. Thanks Zambumon!
Prototype case is in production.
I am working with Rama to produce a Thermal keycap. :eek:
i dont know what a thermal keycap will look like but i want one
Post by: snelltrail on Wed, 13 March 2019, 04:38:46
Post by: The_Boom_Boy on Wed, 13 March 2019, 05:45:00
Post by: Nvmbra on Wed, 13 March 2019, 06:55:32
Does that mean that if a brass option should happen the design will be slightly changed down the road to accommodate to the brass version or will it have the same design so people who joined in R1 can just order an additional brass plate for their Thermal?
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 13 March 2019, 07:19:56
You mentioned that the design is better suited for an aluminium plate but brass might be an option in a later group buy.
Does that mean that if a brass option should happen the design will be slightly changed down the road to accommodate to the brass version or will it have the same design so people who joined in R1 can just order an additional brass plate for their Thermal?
I meant Zeal PC (or another GB runner) could produce brass plates at a later date that would work with Thermal cases produced in the first round, no design changes to the case would be necessary. I also meant that since the plate is also visible on the sides, becoming an accent, brass plates would be either brass colored or PVD coated, and not be as aesthetic as an aluminium plate which could be anodized in a range of colors.
This is all a bit presumptuous that there will even be a round 1, let alone another round of this case. However, if there is more than one round of Thermal, each would have some different colors/materials of cases and plates, and they would be compatible with parts from other rounds.
This is a bit like how Rama Works sold new types of rear weights (and other parts) separately, and people could have bought just those to use with their M60-A from round 1.
Post by: Nvmbra on Wed, 13 March 2019, 08:39:51
You mentioned that the design is better suited for an aluminium plate but brass might be an option in a later group buy.
Does that mean that if a brass option should happen the design will be slightly changed down the road to accommodate to the brass version or will it have the same design so people who joined in R1 can just order an additional brass plate for their Thermal?
I meant Zeal PC (or another GB runner) could produce brass plates at a later date that would work with Thermal cases produced in the first round, no design changes to the case would be necessary. I also meant that since the plate is also visible on the sides, becoming an accent, brass plates would be either brass colored or PVD coated, and not be as aesthetic as an aluminium plate which could be anodized in a range of colors.
This is all a bit presumptuous that there will even be a round 1, let alone another round of this case. However, if there is more than one round of Thermal, each would have some different colors/materials of cases and plates, and they would be compatible with parts from other rounds.
This is a bit like how Rama Works sold new types of rear weights (and other parts) separately, and people could have bought just those to use with their M60-A from round 1.
Oh okay, my bad. I thought you meant design as in how the case is constructed and not how it looks.
I prefer aluminium anyway but thanks for clearing that up!
If that's the case you can probably count me in.
I'll wait for a typing test to make my final decision but everything so far is pointing towards a buy.
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 14 March 2019, 19:17:41
Added GMK Olive renders. Thanks Zambumon!
Post by: clasicks on Thu, 14 March 2019, 19:44:54
Nice.
Post by: mrpetrov on Thu, 14 March 2019, 20:47:04
Post by: desibidu on Thu, 14 March 2019, 21:03:22
Or an acrylic layer going all around.
Post by: Mekuno on Thu, 14 March 2019, 21:47:06
I wonder how this would look with some rgb lights within the grills.
Or an acrylic layer going all around.
polycarb plate :-[
Post by: Visionaire on Thu, 14 March 2019, 22:05:06
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 14 March 2019, 23:21:55
Post by: Xynerorias on Fri, 15 March 2019, 07:26:01
Post by: Zambumon on Fri, 15 March 2019, 10:07:38
I wonder how this would look with some rgb lights within the grills.Like an M60-A
Or an acrylic layer going all around.
Post by: Zambumon on Fri, 15 March 2019, 10:08:43
UPDATES:More soon.
Added GMK Olive renders. Thanks Zambumon!
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 15 March 2019, 15:17:20
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FOvoSUx.png)
Nice.
its red
Post by: Zambumon on Fri, 15 March 2019, 15:40:31
I can see thatShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/FOvoSUx.png)
Nice.
its red
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 15 March 2019, 15:41:06
I can see thatShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/FOvoSUx.png)
Nice.
its red
i like that it is red
Post by: Zambumon on Fri, 15 March 2019, 15:55:26
Yes, that's a good point. Red is a nice color and I wished more boards were made in redI can see thatShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/FOvoSUx.png)
Nice.
its red
i like that it is red
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 15 March 2019, 16:07:13
Yes, that's a good point. Red is a nice color and I wished more boards were made in redI can see thatShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/FOvoSUx.png)
Nice.
its red
i like that it is red
:eyes: verne
Post by: fireworm on Sun, 17 March 2019, 00:29:52
Post by: Jkshowman on Sun, 17 March 2019, 06:36:11
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 17 March 2019, 07:02:41
ooo any more information on the leaf spring mounting method?
You'll know more about it once the prototype is ready and if the results are up to Wilba's expectations.
Post by: club_sauce on Sun, 17 March 2019, 08:54:17
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 17 March 2019, 09:23:09
.... No chance for a split space?
Plate Layout: Single mostly fixed layout design, with fixed 7U bottom row (i.e. HHKB and WKL), fixed split right-shift, optional 2U/split backspace, optional stepped/full Caps Lock
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 19 March 2019, 08:11:38
RAMA X THERMAL
(https://i.imgur.com/X08ROqe.jpg)
:eek:
See 2nd post:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99647.msg2730399#msg2730399
Post by: Zambumon on Tue, 19 March 2019, 08:13:37
UPDATES:
RAMA X THERMALShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/X08ROqe.jpg)
:eek:
See 2nd post:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99647.msg2730399#msg2730399
Courageous.
Post by: Zambumon on Tue, 19 March 2019, 08:20:26
- nice / amazing / wow / oof / excited
- Can't wait for the group buy / Can we start the group buy now?
- rama keycaps. pogchamp
- will the rama keycaps be available in red?
- 100% in! / All in / now you've got my interest
- haha, puddsy bingo
- (thinking emoji) Polycarbonate RAMA keycaps?
- haha, puddsy bingo
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 19 March 2019, 08:43:04
Expected reactions so you don't post them, can be combined:
- nice / amazing / wow / oof / excited
- Can't wait for the group buy / Can we start the group buy now?
- rama keycaps. pogchamp
- will the rama keycaps be available in red?
- 100% in! / All in / now you've got my interest
- haha, puddsy bingo
- (thinking emoji) Polycarbonate RAMA keycaps?
- haha, puddsy bingo
Party killer... :p
But does it come.in black? ^-^
Post by: nasp on Tue, 19 March 2019, 09:48:57
Expected reactions so you don't post them, can be combined:
- nice / amazing / wow / oof / excited
- Can't wait for the group buy / Can we start the group buy now?
- rama keycaps. pogchamp
- will the rama keycaps be available in red?
- 100% in! / All in / now you've got my interest
- haha, puddsy bingo
- (thinking emoji) Polycarbonate RAMA keycaps?
- haha, puddsy bingo
You forgot any references to money in wallets.
Post by: crd on Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:09:57
:))
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 19 March 2019, 18:15:16
Expected reactions so you don't post them, can be combined:
- nice / amazing / wow / oof / excited
- Can't wait for the group buy / Can we start the group buy now?
- rama keycaps. pogchamp
- will the rama keycaps be available in red?
- 100% in! / All in / now you've got my interest
- haha, puddsy bingo
- (thinking emoji) Polycarbonate RAMA keycaps?
- haha, puddsy bingo
r/threadkillers
Post by: lunr on Tue, 19 March 2019, 20:47:40
on a serious note, definitely intrigued about the mounting system.
Post by: nasp on Tue, 19 March 2019, 21:46:28
exciting, can't wait for the gb, do love my rama keys, make a red rama key please, definitely interested!
on a serious note, definitely intrigued about the mounting system.
Look at the second post
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Tue, 19 March 2019, 22:13:27
exciting, can't wait for the gb, do love my rama keys, make a red rama key please, definitely interested!
on a serious note, definitely intrigued about the mounting system.
Look at the second post
Whoosh. He was definitely riffing off Zambumon's post ;)
Post by: nasp on Wed, 20 March 2019, 21:32:55
Will this case work with universal 60% PCBs? I'm enjoying my Boardwalk (60%% ortho) tremendously and would love to transfer it to this case. If so, would it be possible to use a custom plate?
Thanks!! :thumb:
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 20 March 2019, 22:27:37
A question for those who have the Boardwalk PCB, hence why I'm asking it here instead of PM'ing you.
Will this case work with universal 60% PCBs? I'm enjoying my Boardwalk (60%% ortho) tremendously and would love to transfer it to this case. If so, would it be possible to use a custom plate?
Thanks!! :thumb:
Someone already asked me something similar, if they could use XD75 PCB and a custom plate... the answer is yes, there is clearance for a USB socket in the usual position (between Esc and 1), so all that would be required is soldering the internal USB cable (for the daughterboard USB-C) to the alternative PCB. Some PCBs have pads specifically for this (like Zeal60 did before rev 4), so how easy this would be is dependent on the PCB. There is almost always some clearly identifiable points to which you can solder the 4 wires.
If you wish to preserve the original cable that comes with Thermal, you can get cables from electronics suppliers which have the right connector for the daughterboard USB-C. Example 1 (https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14428) Example 2 (https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/jst-sales-america-inc/A04SR04SR30K152B/455-3014-ND/6009390)
The plate design files for Thermal will be made available for anyone to make their own custom plates. I might also design some on request.
Post by: nasp on Thu, 21 March 2019, 00:34:34
Post by: regionfree on Thu, 21 March 2019, 01:50:53
A question for those who have the Boardwalk PCB, hence why I'm asking it here instead of PM'ing you.
Will this case work with universal 60% PCBs? I'm enjoying my Boardwalk (60%% ortho) tremendously and would love to transfer it to this case. If so, would it be possible to use a custom plate?
Thanks!! :thumb:
Someone already asked me something similar, if they could use XD75 PCB and a custom plate... the answer is yes, there is clearance for a USB socket in the usual position (between Esc and 1), so all that would be required is soldering the internal USB cable (for the daughterboard USB-C) to the alternative PCB. Some PCBs have pads specifically for this (like Zeal60 did before rev 4), so how easy this would be is dependent on the PCB. There is almost always some clearly identifiable points to which you can solder the 4 wires.
If you wish to preserve the original cable that comes with Thermal, you can get cables from electronics suppliers which have the right connector for the daughterboard USB-C. Example 1 (https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14428) Example 2 (https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/jst-sales-america-inc/A04SR04SR30K152B/455-3014-ND/6009390)
The plate design files for Thermal will be made available for anyone to make their own custom plates. I might also design some on request.
Could you send me a sample thermal so I could test this out with an ortho pcb? I'd be glad to help :D wink wink
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 12 April 2019, 10:22:56
Post by: RETURNISO on Fri, 12 April 2019, 10:26:39
I can't wait on this GB. Is there any way that it would be able to take ISO for UK keys?
Most likely OP will release a ISO plate file ( Crossing ISO fingers ) The zeal60 PCB already supports ISO :)
Post by: bukowski on Mon, 15 April 2019, 12:01:08
Post by: RETURNISO on Mon, 15 April 2019, 15:09:26
If there is an ISO version supported, I will get this one. :)
Check my answer 1 nodge up 😀
Post by: Uryftw on Mon, 15 April 2019, 16:04:46
Post by: Wilba on Mon, 15 April 2019, 20:11:35
If there is an ISO version supported, I will get this one. :)
I will release ISO plate files. The current plan is to make another custom PCB without ISO, however the case will be compatible with Zeal60 rev 4 which has ISO support and can have a JST SH connector added so it connects with the supplied daughterboard USB-C PCB and cable. The case should also be compatible with other 60% PCBs like HS60 if the daughterboard cable is soldered to the PCB.
EDIT: if you are wondering what the hell am I gonna do with the Thermal PCB after I replace it with a new PCB, you can either keep it in case you sell the Thermal, or sell it to a Keycult No. 1/60 owner :D
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 16 April 2019, 05:46:37
If there is an ISO version supported, I will get this one. :)
I will release ISO plate files. The current plan is to make another custom PCB without ISO, however the case will be compatible with Zeal60 rev 4 which has ISO support and can have a JST SH connector added so it connects with the supplied daughterboard USB-C PCB and cable. The case should also be compatible with other 60% PCBs like HS60 if the daughterboard cable is soldered to the PCB.
EDIT: if you are wondering what the hell am I gonna do with the Thermal PCB after I replace it with a new PCB, you can either keep it in case you sell the Thermal, or sell it to a Keycult No. 1/60 owner :D
Shoot, this properly means no red zeal60 Rev 4, damn haha ^-^
Care to elaborate why you are removing ISO compat from a Thermal PCB? I thought you guys was all about flex :p
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 16 April 2019, 07:32:51
If there is an ISO version supported, I will get this one. :)
I will release ISO plate files. The current plan is to make another custom PCB without ISO, however the case will be compatible with Zeal60 rev 4 which has ISO support and can have a JST SH connector added so it connects with the supplied daughterboard USB-C PCB and cable. The case should also be compatible with other 60% PCBs like HS60 if the daughterboard cable is soldered to the PCB.
EDIT: if you are wondering what the hell am I gonna do with the Thermal PCB after I replace it with a new PCB, you can either keep it in case you sell the Thermal, or sell it to a Keycult No. 1/60 owner :D
Shoot, this properly means no red zeal60 Rev 4, damn haha ^-^
Care to elaborate why you are removing ISO compat from a Thermal PCB? I thought you guys was all about flex :p
ISO has to go away before it can return, no? ;D
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 16 April 2019, 07:39:14
If there is an ISO version supported, I will get this one. :)
I will release ISO plate files. The current plan is to make another custom PCB without ISO, however the case will be compatible with Zeal60 rev 4 which has ISO support and can have a JST SH connector added so it connects with the supplied daughterboard USB-C PCB and cable. The case should also be compatible with other 60% PCBs like HS60 if the daughterboard cable is soldered to the PCB.
EDIT: if you are wondering what the hell am I gonna do with the Thermal PCB after I replace it with a new PCB, you can either keep it in case you sell the Thermal, or sell it to a Keycult No. 1/60 owner :D
Shoot, this properly means no red zeal60 Rev 4, damn haha ^-^
Care to elaborate why you are removing ISO compat from a Thermal PCB? I thought you guys was all about flex :p
ISO has to go away before it can return, no? ;D
Damnit, new avatar pic.. :p
Post by: nostr on Thu, 18 April 2019, 07:58:28
Also, would the plates be sold separately?
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 18 April 2019, 08:59:16
I can't wait for this, the red on black with GMK red samurai :eek:
Also, would the plates be sold separately?
My aim for this GB is to sell extra plates and PCBs, as well as let the user choose the case and plate color combination. So for example, you can buy the black with red plate, and get an extra silver plate should the red plate not match some keycaps you'd like to use.
Post by: regionfree on Thu, 18 April 2019, 09:04:20
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 18 April 2019, 10:06:38
Around when would this GB start?
My aim is to start soon, hopefully next month.
Post by: bukowski on Thu, 18 April 2019, 13:16:34
Post by: RETURNISO on Thu, 18 April 2019, 13:31:31
Around when would this GB start?
My aim is to start soon, hopefully next month.
i'll pay a lot for a couple of reds Rev 4, if you can trough them in the new Thermal batch :p
Post by: odd on Sat, 20 April 2019, 05:18:11
Post by: nostr on Thu, 25 April 2019, 06:54:47
Post by: futurecrime on Thu, 25 April 2019, 10:02:13
Post by: fireworm on Thu, 25 April 2019, 13:02:16
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 25 April 2019, 22:13:52
... What's up with the leaf spring mount?
more info to come when the proto arrives
Post by: Yonben on Sun, 28 April 2019, 07:55:19
Post by: lolafineday on Sun, 28 April 2019, 07:57:40
It looks very good, hopefully it will be at an affordable price :)My guess but I see it being around 500-600$
(https://i.imgur.com/E810Wvi.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99634.0)
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 28 April 2019, 08:25:04
It looks very good, hopefully it will be at an affordable price :)My guess but I see it being around 500-600$
(https://i.imgur.com/E810Wvi.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99634.0)
LOL. No.
Post by: lolafineday on Sun, 28 April 2019, 12:09:45
Oh godIt looks very good, hopefully it will be at an affordable price :)My guess but I see it being around 500-600$
(https://i.imgur.com/E810Wvi.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99634.0)
LOL. No.
Post by: snelltrail on Sun, 28 April 2019, 17:03:05
Oh godIt looks very good, hopefully it will be at an affordable price :)My guess but I see it being around 500-600$
(https://i.imgur.com/E810Wvi.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99634.0)
LOL. No.
I think Zambumon was saying that it’ll be less than that, not more. I seem to remember Wilba saying somewhere that it would be less than the Xeno, which was 420. But that might be a bit different since it’s being produced by Rama now.
Post by: frankh on Mon, 29 April 2019, 04:20:07
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 29 April 2019, 04:48:49
We're not getting any blue case options, I get that. I still wonder how Striker (which I already bought) would look on - say - the red case. Zambumon? It might look "off" or it might look dope. I'm lacking the imagination for it.My recommendation for Striker is to use the silver case with a red plate, that would be similar to what the second type of jerseys they had.
There are some renders of Striker with that color combination on the GB threas
Post by: frankh on Mon, 29 April 2019, 05:08:25
My recommendation for Striker is to use the silver case with a red plate, that would be similar to what the second type of jerseys they had.
There are some renders of Striker with that color combination on the GB threas
Thanks!
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 29 April 2019, 08:08:40
Please no fancy packaging.Oh godIt looks very good, hopefully it will be at an affordable price :)My guess but I see it being around 500-600$
(https://i.imgur.com/E810Wvi.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99634.0)
LOL. No.
I think Zambumon was saying that it’ll be less than that, not more. I seem to remember Wilba saying somewhere that it would be less than the Xeno, which was 420. But that might be a bit different since it’s being produced by Rama now.
I:m sure YouTubers love that for their flexing videos, but man I really hate having to pay extra for, on top of an already costly kit, something that I'll only look at once & probably never again.
At least a TX bag is a thing you can keep using.
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 29 April 2019, 08:45:26
Please no fancy packaging.
I:m sure YouTubers love that for their flexing videos, but man I really hate having to pay extra for, on top of an already costly kit, something that I'll only look at once & probably never again.
At least a TX bag is a thing you can keep using.
Your opinion is entirely valid and I understand why/agree that the argument should be at least brought up, but I know for a fact a lot of people (not youtubers) feel very differently. Many have stated the m60 is the most fun they've had unboxing a board and whilst that's something that you only do once per purchase, it's still a relatively important process (especially for those who buy often). Additionally, neither of the keyboards Rama's ran thus far have really been super expensive, $350 for the M60 (which sold a huge number of units) was a really good price for what you got and I think that if anything the packaging offer adds to that rather than taking away from it.
Post by: gotemall on Wed, 08 May 2019, 17:17:15
I actually have an m60-a pcb on order, are you confirming that it will work with this board?ne hotswap avail?
If you used an M60-A PCB ;D
Also, ANY Chance of you adding some extra colors for the Plate? Seems like availability of other colors (perhaps a Blue, Green,rose gold) would have been awesome with this board, as this would have allowed pairing with various sets of all colors, since the plate color stands out so much.
Post by: mlnr on Thu, 09 May 2019, 11:24:42
Post by: regionfree on Thu, 09 May 2019, 11:33:03
Who do I need to fellate to get a pre-anodized plate as an option?
I admire your dedication
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 12 May 2019, 05:03:03
I actually have an m60-a pcb on order, are you confirming that it will work with this board?
Also, ANY Chance of you adding some extra colors for the Plate? Seems like availability of other colors (perhaps a Blue, Green,rose gold) would have been awesome with this board, as this would have allowed pairing with various sets of all colors, since the plate color stands out so much.
Based on the OP, I think Wilba wants to limit the colors to red/silver/black and have red as the main theme for this batch of keyboards.
Post by: orangesoh on Sun, 12 May 2019, 09:21:27
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 21 May 2019, 23:53:09
Post by: infinitykw on Wed, 22 May 2019, 00:23:40
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 22 May 2019, 08:26:58
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 22 May 2019, 09:51:35
ne crispy chicken avail?
please reconsider ION keyboards
Post by: Freakenstein on Sat, 25 May 2019, 12:15:13
It's May 26th now
Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 25 May 2019, 12:19:38
"Pre-order launch date: May"
It's May 26th now
Better have a delayed order window than a delayed keyboard.
Post by: nasp on Sat, 25 May 2019, 12:48:22
Any actual prototype images?
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 25 May 2019, 14:02:10
"Pre-order launch date: May"
It's May 26th now
(https://i.gyazo.com/0aa494bcd328388c6faf07da8a9c4ae1.png)
Post by: Xynerorias on Sat, 25 May 2019, 14:58:14
"Pre-order launch date: May"
It's May 26th now
Better have a delayed order window than a delayed keyboard.
my man
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 25 May 2019, 16:28:04
Post by: Gabbzan on Sat, 25 May 2019, 17:09:01
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 26 May 2019, 04:32:27
kinda looks like heatsinks on the sides, pretty cool
That's the idea.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 27 May 2019, 04:22:45
Post by: Wilba on Mon, 27 May 2019, 05:19:26
Is there any chance this would be offered unfinished if we don't like the 4 colour choices and want to get it cerakoted locally?
No... this would just add complexity to the manufacturing and fulfilment. Thermal will be produced by Foundry using Rama Works manufacturing with the same expectation of quality and presentation. Shipping raw, unfinished cases is not congruent to their style. Even if it was, anodization protects the surface, and manufacturers prefer not to ship unanodized parts. Whoever does the cerakote will know what to do with an anodized aluminium case.
Post by: hyppialonso on Mon, 27 May 2019, 10:16:13
Post by: lewisflude on Wed, 29 May 2019, 09:18:26
Post by: Xynerorias on Sun, 02 June 2019, 07:55:52
"Launching in May. Details to follow"
Welp...
But jokes aside, where are we on this ?
Post by: regionfree on Sun, 02 June 2019, 08:36:49
https://r.works/thermal
"Launching in May. Details to follow"
Welp...
But jokes aside, where are we on this ?
i have a feeling it will get delayed, so as not to take a bite out of the initial rush for the U80. even if they're different form factors, they will be fighting for the same budget.
Post by: crd on Sun, 02 June 2019, 08:37:43
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 02 June 2019, 09:00:19
Production samples of PCB were delivered. The colors and artwork are perfect, but something is missing. Fab did an oopsie. If you can spot it, you win a prize. No "missing ISO" jokes, please.
Post by: TuCZnak on Sun, 02 June 2019, 09:21:04
Production samples of cases should be finished soon. Like, this week maybe soon. As I have joked on Discord, the manufacturers are too busy cranking out M60-A right now to task switch. My mum always told me, good things come to those who wait.
Production samples of PCB were delivered. The colors and artwork are perfect, but something is missing. Fab did an oopsie. If you can spot it, you win a prize. No "missing ISO" jokes, please.
There ain't no copper on those holes
Edit: or is it that the left holes in top row aren't connected? Dunno if they don't have traces on the other side though
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 02 June 2019, 09:40:40
There ain't no copper on those holes
Edit: or is it that the left holes in top row aren't connected? Dunno if they don't have traces on the other side though
No. Pads are plated with silver.
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 02 June 2019, 09:52:06
Post by: Hadi on Sun, 02 June 2019, 10:27:30
Production samples of cases should be finished soon. Like, this week maybe soon. As I have joked on Discord, the manufacturers are too busy cranking out M60-A right now to task switch. My mum always told me, good things come to those who wait.
Production samples of PCB were delivered. The colors and artwork are perfect, but something is missing. Fab did an oopsie. If you can spot it, you win a prize. No "missing ISO" jokes, please.
Is one of the columns missing a via connecting it to a switch?
[attach=1]
EDIT: Looks like a couple of the column vias are missing. Were they too close to the pad or something?
Post by: fireworm on Sun, 02 June 2019, 10:36:22
Production samples of cases should be finished soon. Like, this week maybe soon. As I have joked on Discord, the manufacturers are too busy cranking out M60-A right now to task switch. My mum always told me, good things come to those who wait.Installed the leds upside down?
Production samples of PCB were delivered. The colors and artwork are perfect, but something is missing. Fab did an oopsie. If you can spot it, you win a prize. No "missing ISO" jokes, please.
Mirrored the mx switch holes?
Edit: Hmmm.... Nope....
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 02 June 2019, 10:53:26
Production samples of cases should be finished soon. Like, this week maybe soon. As I have joked on Discord, the manufacturers are too busy cranking out M60-A right now to task switch. My mum always told me, good things come to those who wait.
Production samples of PCB were delivered. The colors and artwork are perfect, but something is missing. Fab did an oopsie. If you can spot it, you win a prize. No "missing ISO" jokes, please.
Is one of the columns missing a via connecting it to a switch?
(Attachment Link)
EDIT: Looks like a couple of the column vias are missing. Were they too close to the pad or something?
Column tracks top side go through the pads, or sometimes through a via near the pad.
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 02 June 2019, 10:55:20
Post by: fireworm on Sun, 02 June 2019, 11:00:16
Diodes soldered upside down?Production samples of cases should be finished soon. Like, this week maybe soon. As I have joked on Discord, the manufacturers are too busy cranking out M60-A right now to task switch. My mum always told me, good things come to those who wait.Installed the leds upside down?
Production samples of PCB were delivered. The colors and artwork are perfect, but something is missing. Fab did an oopsie. If you can spot it, you win a prize. No "missing ISO" jokes, please.
Mirrored the mx switch holes?
Edit: Hmmm.... Nope....
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 02 June 2019, 11:01:47
This is what it should look like:
Post by: Hadi on Sun, 02 June 2019, 11:11:16
No.
This is what it should look like:
Oh, the border is missing, right?
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 02 June 2019, 11:13:47
No.
This is what it should look like:
Oh, the border is missing, right?
Yep :D
Post by: Hadi on Sun, 02 June 2019, 11:20:25
No.
This is what it should look like:
Oh, the border is missing, right?
Yep :D
Amazing! Looks like they got the right effect on the stabilizer holes but completely disregarded it for the border.
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 02 June 2019, 11:22:09
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 02 June 2019, 11:26:50
No relief cuts?
Do I look Korean to you?
Post by: flippanteer on Sun, 02 June 2019, 12:36:04
MaybeNo relief cuts?
Do I look Korean to you?
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 02 June 2019, 14:57:01
MaybeNo relief cuts?
Do I look Korean to you?
Perfetto
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b871a93d230a57011d351274ae063bbf/tenor.gif?itemid=12325501)
Post by: Hadi on Sun, 02 June 2019, 15:14:13
Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 02 June 2019, 17:23:31
Out of curiosity, what was the prize for guessing?Internet points.
Post by: Xynerorias on Sun, 02 June 2019, 17:25:09
Hey it's not redditOut of curiosity, what was the prize for guessing?Internet points.
Sent from my ONE A2001 using Tapatalk
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 02 June 2019, 21:10:21
Out of curiosity, what was the prize for guessing?
A limited edition Rama Works X wilba.tech keycap :p
Post by: Hadi on Sun, 02 June 2019, 23:48:25
Out of curiosity, what was the prize for guessing?
A limited edition Rama Works X wilba.tech keycap :p
Oh hey, that's exciting! Thanks a ton to both of you.
Post by: TuCZnak on Mon, 03 June 2019, 10:53:32
There ain't no copper on those holes
Edit: or is it that the left holes in top row aren't connected? Dunno if they don't have traces on the other side though
No. Pads are plated with silver.
Really? That's interesting, haven't seen that anywhere else. Are you not worried about corrosion?
Post by: Freakenstein on Mon, 03 June 2019, 14:19:39
Just can't wait so many expectations
Post by: Wilba on Mon, 03 June 2019, 21:07:36
There ain't no copper on those holes
Edit: or is it that the left holes in top row aren't connected? Dunno if they don't have traces on the other side though
No. Pads are plated with silver.
Really? That's interesting, haven't seen that anywhere else. Are you not worried about corrosion?
No... Immersion Silver is an alternative to Electroless Nickel/Immersion Gold (ENIG) with the same kind of properties.
Post by: EMC Labs on Sun, 16 June 2019, 20:45:04
Post by: taylortdhouse on Mon, 17 June 2019, 03:54:02
Interested if sub $350.Made an account to reply to this. Rama already said it will be cheaper than the newly released U80 on Instagram in a comment I asked a couple weeks ago. So expect sub $320 at the very least.
Post by: ptiede on Mon, 17 June 2019, 08:01:08
The u-80 is $420 though.Interested if sub $350.Made an account to reply to this. Rama already said it will be cheaper than the newly released U80 on Instagram in a comment I asked a couple weeks ago. So expect sub $320 at the very least.
Post by: taylortdhouse on Sat, 22 June 2019, 02:26:11
... you are correct, I don't know how I forgot that already. I guess for some reason in my head I thought the U80 was around $350. My badThe u-80 is $420 though.Interested if sub $350.Made an account to reply to this. Rama already said it will be cheaper than the newly released U80 on Instagram in a comment I asked a couple weeks ago. So expect sub $320 at the very least.
Post by: Xynerorias on Tue, 25 June 2019, 08:00:41
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 25 June 2019, 08:12:51
Also I would part with big money to see this design in a 100% layout or even a 75%. 100%, loose the top row but keep navigation and pgup/pgdw and numpad. Would look extra wide and very cool.
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 25 June 2019, 09:04:19
Post by: Pwner on Tue, 25 June 2019, 09:05:21
Can I just ask again if there is any way this will have a ISO option?
It will take a little effort but it will be possible. The plate file will be available and the case is designed to allow other pcbs, you would just need to wire the daughterboard up.
Post by: lewisflude on Tue, 25 June 2019, 09:40:17
Can I just ask again if there is any way this will have a ISO option?
It will take a little effort but it will be possible. The plate file will be available and the case is designed to allow other pcbs, you would just need to wire the daughterboard up.
Sounds doable! I think this is what I'll end up doing. Think Wilba and co. have knocked it out of the park on this one. Totally getting that brutalist vibe off it.
Curious, what's the daughterboard for? Integrated USB-C?
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 25 June 2019, 10:00:27
Mekanisk is running WT60-D MEKANISK now, which has ISO support.
https://mekanisk.co/collections/fjell-classic/products/unannounced-product
It is also 60% tray compatible.
Note: when I say compatible, it means you have to solder a JST connector to the PCB so you can connect the daughterboard USB-C, the on-board USB-C on those PCBs is not used in Thermal. I can add this connector to Thermal orders.
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 26 June 2019, 04:41:12
Post by: RETURNISO on Wed, 26 June 2019, 06:24:33
[attach=1]
Beautiful PCB mate
Post by: lewisflude on Wed, 26 June 2019, 06:53:47
Yes you can start the GB now 👍 😁
(Attachment Link)
Beautiful PCB mate
Seems quite an elegant PCB, I'm def gonna pick one up if I go for this board. Shows you can do ISO/ANSI in a PCB properly and still have per-key RGB for those that want that!
Post by: Xynerorias on Thu, 27 June 2019, 14:52:42
Post by: Yeoh on Thu, 27 June 2019, 17:58:34
Hey I was so hyped about this board I forgot about the PCB. It says it's solderable, but does it mean it's hotswap but you can also solder it or just plain solder type pcb?
Solderable probably means solderable.
If it was hotswap, it would say hotswap.
One or the other, cant have both.
Post by: Xynerorias on Thu, 27 June 2019, 18:15:30
Yea that's what I thought, just wanted confirmation, it seemed weird even to me to have a pcb that's both hotswap and regular. I dunno, it was the "able" in solderable that kinda bugged me for some reason, for me it's either a regular pcb or a hotswap one (what I mean is I never use the term/word solderable for a pcb, that's why I found it weird for some reason).Hey I was so hyped about this board I forgot about the PCB. It says it's solderable, but does it mean it's hotswap but you can also solder it or just plain solder type pcb?
Solderable probably means solderable.
If it was hotswap, it would say hotswap.
One or the other, cant have both.
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Post by: Xynerorias on Wed, 17 July 2019, 08:11:52
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 17 July 2019, 08:19:40
Post by: lewisflude on Wed, 17 July 2019, 08:21:22
Prototypes are good. Leaf spring mount works. We are getting things ready for a pre-order launch ASAP.
Exciting! Will keep a wilba shaped space in bank account next month then…
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 17 July 2019, 10:25:56
Exciting! Will keep a wilba shaped space in bank account next month then…
Wilba is vaguely shaped like the Loch Ness Monster.
Post by: elpepe21 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 10:45:09
Post by: Nevermore012 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 11:11:20
Post by: lewisflude on Wed, 17 July 2019, 11:34:44
$350 confirmedExciting! Will keep a wilba shaped space in bank account next month then…
Wilba is vaguely shaped like the Loch Ness Monster.
Post by: odinlogic on Wed, 17 July 2019, 11:48:35
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 17 July 2019, 16:09:52
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 18 July 2019, 16:29:57
Post by: elpepe21 on Sat, 20 July 2019, 03:26:32
Post by: adxlk on Sat, 20 July 2019, 10:47:18
wtb render of gmk wob on the red case with black plate o.o
hope this helps
(https://i.imgur.com/fh9Kzk1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Q4Ak8mE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/G4UztkQ.jpg)
Post by: DukeEsquire on Mon, 22 July 2019, 10:17:33
Post by: Macmutant on Mon, 22 July 2019, 14:51:52
wtb render of gmk wob on the red case with black plate o.o
hope this helpsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fh9Kzk1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Q4Ak8mE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/G4UztkQ.jpg)
Thank you for sharing these renders! I was thinking about HALT with WOB, and now I’m all but certain. Looks so nice.
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Tue, 23 July 2019, 11:02:16
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 23 July 2019, 19:01:32
wtb render of gmk wob on the red case with black plate o.o
hope this helpsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fh9Kzk1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Q4Ak8mE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/G4UztkQ.jpg)
Wowza. That is hot. It's gonna be tough choosing between black w red or red w black x_x
Post by: adxlk on Tue, 23 July 2019, 21:46:02
wtb render of gmk wob on the red case with black plate o.o
hope this helpsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fh9Kzk1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Q4Ak8mE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/G4UztkQ.jpg)
Wowza. That is hot. It's gonna be tough choosing between black w red or red w black x_x
black is red is safer since black case have more keyset choice. For red/black, wob and jamon is the best bet
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 24 July 2019, 05:37:05
It is exactly the colorway I have been going after; plus it's designed by Wilba, QC and produced by RAMA like a dream team.
It goes really well with GMK Demonic or some Black on Red caps.
Post by: loviniltra on Wed, 24 July 2019, 07:03:02
Post by: befbef on Wed, 24 July 2019, 07:42:46
Post by: mrpetrov on Wed, 24 July 2019, 09:20:55
How did you all already decide to join without knowing what leaf spring mount is?
Check out the new keycult #2.1 video, it has Wilba's leaf spring mounting system shown and described in detail there.
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 24 July 2019, 16:50:08
wtb render of gmk wob on the red case with black plate o.o
hope this helpsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fh9Kzk1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Q4Ak8mE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/G4UztkQ.jpg)
Wowza. That is hot. It's gonna be tough choosing between black w red or red w black x_x
black is red is safer since black case have more keyset choice. For red/black, wob and jamon is the best bet
I'm thinking GMK Sandstorm would look pretty win on that Red
Post by: 8six753o9 on Wed, 24 July 2019, 17:14:16
How did you all already decide to join without knowing what leaf spring mount is?Because I just care about the looks lol.
Post by: break on Sat, 27 July 2019, 18:40:12
https://ramaworks.store/products/foundry-thermal
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 27 July 2019, 19:37:08
Post by: 8six753o9 on Sat, 27 July 2019, 19:50:45
EDIT: Let me guess. If we want a different plate color, we would need to buy an extra plate?
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 27 July 2019, 20:06:26
EDIT: Let me guess. If we want a different plate color, we would need to buy an extra plate?
Yes. You can buy red plates separately, pricing on the extra plates is really good though.
Post by: lewisflude on Sat, 27 July 2019, 20:09:25
Post by: cijanzen on Sat, 27 July 2019, 21:46:45
Does the Thermal solderable PCB support ISO, and is it possible to get the platefile to get custom plates made?
Plate file will be released later
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 27 July 2019, 21:49:06
Yeah I'm not seeing an option to choose plate colors. Does this mean that the plate matches the case color?
EDIT: Let me guess. If we want a different plate color, we would need to buy an extra plate?
They all come with BEAM color, which is silver. Other colors can be added separately.
Post by: barcode on Sat, 27 July 2019, 22:27:52
-barcode
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Sat, 27 July 2019, 23:02:19
disappointed that the plate anodization options are not part of the standard offering. To me, one of the main draws was the case and plate having the different anodizations on them (black on red and red on black in particular). I guess i could pay the extra and get a second plate but I'd much rather pay a small upcharge for an anodized plate in the base offering.
-barcode
Agreed.
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 28 July 2019, 05:06:39
disappointed that the plate anodization options are not part of the standard offering. To me, one of the main draws was the case and plate having the different anodizations on them (black on red and red on black in particular). I guess i could pay the extra and get a second plate but I'd much rather pay a small upcharge for an anodized plate in the base offering.
-barcode
Also agreed.
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 28 July 2019, 05:06:56
Does the Thermal solderable PCB support ISO, and is it possible to get the platefile to get custom plates made?
Same question here please.
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 28 July 2019, 06:02:05
Does the Thermal solderable PCB support ISO, and is it possible to get the platefile to get custom plates made?
Same question here please.
The thermal PCB don't support ISO, wilba have mentioned that u can use a zeal60 PCB or WT60-D PCB by mekanisk.
These are the 2 confirmed PCBs by wilba that's support a JST connection for the daughter board.
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 28 July 2019, 06:32:18
Does the Thermal solderable PCB support ISO, and is it possible to get the platefile to get custom plates made?
Same question here please.
The thermal PCB don't support ISO, wilba have mentioned that u can use a zeal60 PCB or WT60-D PCB by mekanisk.
These are the 2 confirmed PCBs by wilba that's support a JST connection for the daughter board.
Well ok. Which one of the two do you think is a better choice? The ZealPC board appears to be sold out as well.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 28 July 2019, 06:42:01
Ouch.
Is this the price of partnering with Rama? With new collab brand comes extra markups?
Post by: senryo on Sun, 28 July 2019, 06:59:52
And is there more details on leaf mount?
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 28 July 2019, 06:59:53
An extra 30 bucks just for an anodized plate?Are you being serious?
Ouch.
Is this the price of partnering with Rama? With new collab brand comes extra markups?
30 USD is more than reasonable for a plate. I'm pretty sure even for a tray-mount 60% which is arguably the most ubiquitous custom keyboard build, I've seen plates priced like this or even higher.
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 28 July 2019, 07:54:12
Does the Thermal solderable PCB support ISO, and is it possible to get the platefile to get custom plates made?
Same question here please.
The thermal PCB don't support ISO, wilba have mentioned that u can use a zeal60 PCB or WT60-D PCB by mekanisk.
These are the 2 confirmed PCBs by wilba that's support a JST connection for the daughter board.
Well ok. Which one of the two do you think is a better choice? The ZealPC board appears to be sold out as well.
The zeal60 is a fully packed PCB with in switch RGB SMD´s and a ton of options. The WT60-D Is much more bare bones with no support for LEDs or RGB SMDs but support the most common layouts and ISO
Yeah there are both out of stock atm. But the WT60-D should be restocked/available for pre-order soon :thumb:
https://mekanisk.co/collections/keyboard-parts/products/unannounced-product
What i do hope to see is a Thermal bare bones kit at RAMA´s shop, so us ISO users don't get stuck with PCB´s and plates we cant use.
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 28 July 2019, 08:07:02
An extra 30 bucks just for an anodized plate?
Ouch.
Is this the price of partnering with Rama? With new collab brand comes extra markups?
LOL this has got to be a troll.
Post by: ddnomad on Sun, 28 July 2019, 08:10:00
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 28 July 2019, 08:13:13
Does anybody know for how long pre-order will be opened?
PREORDER ENDS SEPTEMBER 7TH 2019
https://ramaworks.store/products/foundry-thermal
Post by: ddnomad on Sun, 28 July 2019, 08:46:35
Does anybody know for how long pre-order will be opened?
PREORDER ENDS SEPTEMBER 7TH 2019
https://ramaworks.store/products/foundry-thermal?variant=16813684293675
Ahh, ffs, I’ve not even visited this page cause on Twitter it points to a different one.
tyvm!
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 28 July 2019, 10:44:55
Except I cannot just pay the difference. With this price structure, a customer is forced to buy an extra plate ON TOP of the included BEAM plate if they want that signature black-case-and-red-plate look.An extra 30 bucks just for an anodized plate?Are you being serious?
Ouch.
Is this the price of partnering with Rama? With new collab brand comes extra markups?
30 USD is more than reasonable for a plate. I'm pretty sure even for a tray-mount 60% which is arguably the most ubiquitous custom keyboard build, I've seen plates priced like this or even higher.
The seller phrased it as “extra plate for a different build”, but let’s face it, most people don’t need that extra plate, especially if they pick the hotswappable PCB.
So yes, I have an issue with Rama and/or wilba using a dark pattern design here, driving customers to pay more for stuffs they don’t need.
The #1 comment on the Reddit thread right now is people wondering why they have to buy an extra plate ffs.
Post by: radam on Sun, 28 July 2019, 11:05:16
And to be fair, if I'm looking at the same reddit thread, there are 18 comments total and the top one has 3 points.
Post by: rowie on Sun, 28 July 2019, 11:10:07
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 28 July 2019, 11:52:18
Except I cannot just pay the difference. With this price structure, a customer is forced to buy an extra plate ON TOP of the included BEAM plate if they want that signature black-case-and-red-plate look.
The seller phrased it as “extra plate for a different build”, but let’s face it, most people don’t need that extra plate, especially if they pick the hotswappable PCB.
So yes, I have an issue with Rama and/or wilba using a dark pattern design here, driving customers to pay more for stuffs they don’t need.
The #1 comment on the Reddit thread right now is people wondering why they have to buy an extra plate ffs.
Are you handling the logistics for what could possibly over 1000 boards yourself or are they? If they ship with the beam plate by default rather than allowing you to choose, which happens with a bunch of other sellers/designers too not just Rama/Wilba, then obviously there is a reason behind it.
Whenever there's a raffle/FCFS sale people complain that they aren't gonna get a fair shot at the board they want and bring up the issue that all GBs should be unlimited and everyone that wants one should be able to buy one, so when Rama goes and does that with his buys people complain that they can't mix and match every single component without "paying the difference". Go stalk and handle the factory who's producing 1500 keyboards yourself, inspect and QC that EVERY SINGLE PART that people chose that is different from the "default" is where it should be, then once it's shipped to you do it again and package everything nice and neat inside a beautiful little box.
Skip out on 3 bigmac menus and cough up the $30 for the extra plate that you want.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 28 July 2019, 12:11:22
Post by: Rumblehotep on Sun, 28 July 2019, 12:22:36
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 28 July 2019, 13:27:27
... There are literally 3 plate colors, 2 if you don’t count the default BEAM one.Except I cannot just pay the difference. With this price structure, a customer is forced to buy an extra plate ON TOP of the included BEAM plate if they want that signature black-case-and-red-plate look.
The seller phrased it as “extra plate for a different build”, but let’s face it, most people don’t need that extra plate, especially if they pick the hotswappable PCB.
So yes, I have an issue with Rama and/or wilba using a dark pattern design here, driving customers to pay more for stuffs they don’t need.
The #1 comment on the Reddit thread right now is people wondering why they have to buy an extra plate ffs.
Are you handling the logistics for what could possibly over 1000 boards yourself or are they? If they ship with the beam plate by default rather than allowing you to choose, which happens with a bunch of other sellers/designers too not just Rama/Wilba, then obviously there is a reason behind it.
Whenever there's a raffle/FCFS sale people complain that they aren't gonna get a fair shot at the board they want and bring up the issue that all GBs should be unlimited and everyone that wants one should be able to buy one, so when Rama goes and does that with his buys people complain that they can't mix and match every single component without "paying the difference". Go stalk and handle the factory who's producing 1500 keyboards yourself, inspect and QC that EVERY SINGLE PART that people chose that is different from the "default" is where it should be, then once it's shipped to you do it again and package everything nice and neat inside a beautiful little box.
Skip out on 3 bigmac menus and cough up the $30 for the extra plate that you want.
That qualifies as “too many SKUs” to you?
And please, don’t make it sound like SKU management is some sort of extraordinarily hard feat that few others have any idea about. It’s a normal part of any business making physical stuffs. I know because I work in one too.
Yes, I’m expecting more from Rama, because unlike others, they are running a business here, not a hobby project. It’s literally their job.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 28 July 2019, 13:29:20
get one hotswap pcb and one nonswap pcb to justify the extra plate, problem solfI don’t like buying things that I don’t need and will just leave lying around my house for no reason.
Surely I don’t need to justify that?
Post by: Hell-es on Sun, 28 July 2019, 13:38:57
Post by: xondat on Sun, 28 July 2019, 13:51:05
Just to make sure - with hotswap pcb - how many stabs i need to buy ? 1 x 7 and 2 or 3. 2U stabs?
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/files/WT60-B_Layouts_1_large.png?v=1564312874)
1 x 7u
2 x 2u
Post by: Hell-es on Sun, 28 July 2019, 13:53:54
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 28 July 2019, 13:59:06
... There are literally 3 plate colors, 2 if you don’t count the default BEAM one.
That qualifies as “too many SKUs” to you?
And please, don’t make it sound like SKU management is some sort of extraordinarily hard feat that few others have any idea about. It’s a normal part of any business making physical stuffs. I know because I work in one too.
Yes, I’m expecting more from Rama, because unlike others, they are running a business here, not a hobby project. It’s literally their job.
ok
PS: if you don't wanna be treated like "others have no idea about" then don't act like you aren't aware of why things are the way they are.
PPS: you're still coughing up the $30.
Post by: Xynerorias on Mon, 29 July 2019, 05:09:47
Kinda sliding myself out of nowhere here but on top of the logistics, I think it's also about money. It's not a limited gb per say nor is it a raffle and it lasts for quite a while for a board gb (even keysets run for just a month). And because the price of the board is that low they know they're going to have a ton of orders so they use this to get some extra cash out of it. It's a sucky thing to do but it's business. But it's not just Rama, it's becoming a trend, remember the R2 of Oblivion? I was so happy to see so many flexibility in the kits when it was in IC but it got really cut out on the final Drop gb page. I originally wanted to get a base Git kit and get the regular and monochrome mods separately but whadaya know, when it's gb time, you have to choose between the 3 because they all have the entire kit attached to it. I could live without the regular mods but I had to let go of the monochrome mods because I didn't want to pay 150 bucks to have 2/3 of the keyset sitting gathering dust. Here it's kind of the same. You want to have the black and red look? Well pay more buddy. And I expect the same type of stuff in the future for every board/sets that has a lot of hype and is sure to sell like crazy. Mark my words if there is a R2 of GMK Serika (I think there will be but in a long time I think) there will be stuff like that. They need that extra cash flow to compensate for the increase in logistics but it's also a cheap way to get your S T O N K S up. But what do I know that's just my opinion and despite all this I'm still going to grab the extra red plate so...... There are literally 3 plate colors, 2 if you don’t count the default BEAM one.
That qualifies as “too many SKUs” to you?
And please, don’t make it sound like SKU management is some sort of extraordinarily hard feat that few others have any idea about. It’s a normal part of any business making physical stuffs. I know because I work in one too.
Yes, I’m expecting more from Rama, because unlike others, they are running a business here, not a hobby project. It’s literally their job.
ok
PS: if you don't wanna be treated like "others have no idea about" then don't act like you aren't aware of why things are the way they are.
PPS: you're still coughing up the $30.
Sent from my ONE A2001 using Tapatalk
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 29 July 2019, 05:55:32
No.Kinda sliding myself out of nowhere here but on top of the logistics, I think it's also about money. It's not a limited gb per say nor is it a raffle and it lasts for quite a while for a board gb (even keysets run for just a month). And because the price of the board is that low they know they're going to have a ton of orders so they use this to get some extra cash out of it. It's a sucky thing to do but it's business. But it's not just Rama, it's becoming a trend, remember the R2 of Oblivion? I was so happy to see so many flexibility in the kits when it was in IC but it got really cut out on the final Drop gb page. I originally wanted to get a base Git kit and get the regular and monochrome mods separately but whadaya know, when it's gb time, you have to choose between the 3 because they all have the entire kit attached to it. I could live without the regular mods but I had to let go of the monochrome mods because I didn't want to pay 150 bucks to have 2/3 of the keyset sitting gathering dust. Here it's kind of the same. You want to have the black and red look? Well pay more buddy. And I expect the same type of stuff in the future for every board/sets that has a lot of hype and is sure to sell like crazy. Mark my words if there is a R2 of GMK Serika (I think there will be but in a long time I think) there will be stuff like that. They need that extra cash flow to compensate for the increase in logistics but it's also a cheap way to get your S T O N K S up. But what do I know that's just my opinion and despite all this I'm still going to grab the extra red plate so...... There are literally 3 plate colors, 2 if you don’t count the default BEAM one.
That qualifies as “too many SKUs” to you?
And please, don’t make it sound like SKU management is some sort of extraordinarily hard feat that few others have any idea about. It’s a normal part of any business making physical stuffs. I know because I work in one too.
Yes, I’m expecting more from Rama, because unlike others, they are running a business here, not a hobby project. It’s literally their job.
ok
PS: if you don't wanna be treated like "others have no idea about" then don't act like you aren't aware of why things are the way they are.
PPS: you're still coughing up the $30.
Sent from my ONE A2001 using Tapatalk
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 29 July 2019, 05:55:51
Kinda sliding myself out of nowhere here but on top of the logistics, I think it's also about money. It's not a limited gb per say nor is it a raffle and it lasts for quite a while for a board gb (even keysets run for just a month). And because the price of the board is that low they know they're going to have a ton of orders so they use this to get some extra cash out of it. It's a sucky thing to do but it's business. But it's not just Rama, it's becoming a trend, remember the R2 of Oblivion? I was so happy to see so many flexibility in the kits when it was in IC but it got really cut out on the final Drop gb page. I originally wanted to get a base Git kit and get the regular and monochrome mods separately but whadaya know, when it's gb time, you have to choose between the 3 because they all have the entire kit attached to it. I could live without the regular mods but I had to let go of the monochrome mods because I didn't want to pay 150 bucks to have 2/3 of the keyset sitting gathering dust. Here it's kind of the same. You want to have the black and red look? Well pay more buddy. And I expect the same type of stuff in the future for every board/sets that has a lot of hype and is sure to sell like crazy. Mark my words if there is a R2 of GMK Serika (I think there will be but in a long time I think) there will be stuff like that. They need that extra cash flow to compensate for the increase in logistics but it's also a cheap way to get your S T O N K S up. But what do I know that's just my opinion and despite all this I'm still going to grab the extra red plate so...... There are literally 3 plate colors, 2 if you don’t count the default BEAM one.
That qualifies as “too many SKUs” to you?
And please, don’t make it sound like SKU management is some sort of extraordinarily hard feat that few others have any idea about. It’s a normal part of any business making physical stuffs. I know because I work in one too.
Yes, I’m expecting more from Rama, because unlike others, they are running a business here, not a hobby project. It’s literally their job.
ok
PS: if you don't wanna be treated like "others have no idea about" then don't act like you aren't aware of why things are the way they are.
PPS: you're still coughing up the $30.
Sent from my ONE A2001 using Tapatalk
I can 100% guarantee you that the decision of how I structured the Oblivion V2 kits was entirely based on how I felt it would accommodate the average buyer best. Most scenarios of the old kit structure would have brought the shopping cart to near or over 200$. I did not like that at all and so I changed it that it would be sub 200$ even with the alternate Alphas when fitting a single keyboard. People wanting to fill multiple boards are a minority and thus not my primary concern when I made that change.
Post by: gMit on Mon, 29 July 2019, 07:29:47
Post by: lewisflude on Mon, 29 July 2019, 07:34:47
The way I think of it is, it probably costs them very little to add a basic plate in with the kit for those who want to save some money, and the fancier plates would increase the cost a bit.
In keyboards it’s often the finish that increases the cost, not just the materials used.
Post by: would? on Mon, 29 July 2019, 07:37:11
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Mon, 29 July 2019, 09:19:21
A lot of the sexy renders are black w/ a red plate. Now that the sale is live, turns out that you gotta pay extra for that combo. I think that took people by surprise and caused the wtf moment.
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 29 July 2019, 10:44:50
$30 is definitely reasonable for the plate; however, I don't think it's the price point that's the issue.
A lot of the sexy renders are black w/ a red plate. Now that the sale is live, turns out that you gotta pay extra for that combo. I think that took people by surprise and caused the wtf moment.
This is exactly the point. $30 is nothing but it is simply peoples reaction to the renders showing one thing and the product offering another. These have to be hand packaged anyway, so why not offer plate choices at point of order?
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Mon, 29 July 2019, 12:25:09
Post by: mlnr on Tue, 30 July 2019, 00:10:05
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 30 July 2019, 07:10:09
The mad man is doing it.
Yes.
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 30 July 2019, 07:13:18
NOW AVAILABLE FOR PREORDER!
https://r.works/thermal
https://r.works/thermal
Thank you to everyone who showed support over the past few months.
If you would like to discuss Thermal with me and other people during the long wait for production to complete, join my Discord server: https://discord.gg/kq667tt
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 30 July 2019, 09:33:19
NOW AVAILABLE FOR PREORDER!
https://r.works/thermal
Thank you to everyone who showed support over the past few months.
If you would like to discuss Thermal with me and other people during the long wait for production to complete, join my Discord server: https://discord.gg/kq667tt
Please create a GB thread and link it here. Updates to production should be posted in the GB thread. If you want to chat in Discord that's fine, but the main source of information regarding status should be publicly available for posterity. :thumb: