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Title: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 02 December 2020, 11:58:59
Update: Jul 13 2021
More details about the board:

Sound test: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1082942721


Update: May 12 2021
Hi! The final details for the group buy of the board are now out.

Starting Price: 399 USD
GB Dates: July 15 - August 15
Vendor: KBDFans
You can find the IC on their page here:https://kbdfans.com/collections/interest-checks/products/axol-studio-yeti-mechanical-keyboard-kit
 (https://kbdfans.com/collections/interest-checks/products/axol-studio-yeti-mechanical-keyboard-kit)
Please consider joining the Discord server for the most up to date information, which you can do here: https://discord.gg/5vmwxu5uUR

Update: Mar 16 2021

Hi! Its been a while since this project was last updated. We are now in the final stretch before the GB! This is just a first look at one of the options for the board, the full details of the GB for this board will be announced soon.

Discord:
We have created a small discord server to allow those to keep up with the status of this project, which can be found here: https://discord.gg/5vmwxu5uUR

Colours & Vendors:
The final colours and vendor have been decided. The final decision was to partner with KBDFans. They are constantly committed to delivering a quality product at an affordable price. We are greatly looking forwards to working with them for this group buy.

With that being said, the final colours available have been decided. While the Ewhite and Eblack versions do not require colour matching, we are currently in the process of finalizing the production units and the colourmatching. I will be posting updates on the colour matching process whenever I receive samples and a final production sample unit. For those that are asking, the yeti has been added to the bottom.

Available colours
E-White,    E-Black
Amethyst (dyed purple polycarbonate)
Sapphire (dyed blue polycarbonate)
Morganite (dyed pink polycarbonate)

Updated Renders

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Hello everyone! This is AxolStudio, a small design studio based in Toronto, Canada. This project initially started as a personal project as I wanted this board to be my personal endgame. As this project came together, I started receiving interest from other peers in this board. I personally love clean round objects and wanted to bring that style to keyboards. This keyboard is currently the embodiment of everything that I want out of a keyboard, my current personal endgame.

TLDR: Long IC, has a decent amount of personal thoughts and design choice explanations. Just check gallery for renders and proto images and read the following specs if you want a shortened form of the IC.

Feedback Form
https://forms.gle/3qiGi9kMw9mzD4PP9

Render Gallery
https://imgur.com/a/xTIuDqv

Proto Gallery
https://imgur.com/a/ccaizQR
Prototype Sound Test
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LwmtFWOIVatPpQc2oDDBuHDZPOef5aDh/view?usp=sharing
*disclaimer* this was recorded on a really bad mic, keep that in mind as you listen to it. This file has not been edited in any way shape or form. Treat this more like a preview rather than a definitive sound test of the board.
Built with Lubed and Filmed OA switches, Brass Plate, Durock Stabs, Pbt Islander

Specs:
-   6 degree typing angle
-   Gasket mount at 16 points
-   QMK and VIA support
-   3.2 kg weight unbuilt
-   JST daughterboard (unified daughterboard spec)
-   19mm front profile from the bottom of the case to start of R4 keys
-   Soldered PCB with USB-C connection
-   Full plates, half plates in the works for materials FR4, PC, Aluminum, and Brass
-   Colours: E-white, E-Black, PC version and other anodization colours in the works
-   Pricing TBD, depends on how big this IC gets. Estimated at around 400 USD. I will do my best to push the price down where possible. Keep in mind that this board is larger than a standard TKL in size and the curves arent easy to machine. This price estimate is for low MOQ

Supported layouts:
-   Split backspace
-   Split right shift
-   2u, 1.25 u/2.25u 1u left side R4
-       Stepped Caps
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Eventual To Do list & priorities
1)   Gather feedback from community & interact/keep post & design updated (main priority is to finish plate optimization (currently running situations))
2)   Add more renders & pictures (higher quality) of prototypes
3)   Figure out what configurations and what to be offered for GB if there is enough interest
4)   Figure out pricing
5)   Find vendors

If you don't want to read a breakdown of my thoughts and choices, then stop here! The short version of the IC ends here. Thanks for reading!

Disclaimer
A couple things, this IC will be relatively long, full of text and hopefully an informative read. I will be going over some design choices, personal explanations and some other tidbits on this project. Again, as a disclaimer, these are my personal design choices, they may not be the “correct one” but this is personally what I want and like and my personal thoughts. If you have any other ideas or think something that I’ve chosen is not the best, please let me know in the feedback form!

To read more about the project, click on show more.

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Namesake and logo engraving and overall weight

The board is named Yeti as a suggestion through a friend, and thus the logo of this board evolved to a chonky axolotl wearing a yeti suit.

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This chonky boi was included on the keyboard, however due to personally thinking that branding the keyboard with this logo on the back would be rather tacky and ruin the clean aesthetic, it was moved to be engraved only onto the weight. This, however, is something that I am willing to change, to add the logo onto the back of the board or some other way, as it is currently quite plain. Please let me know how you feel about this in the feedback form.

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The board focuses on a clean and smooth exterior with thick bezels and fillets, allowing for a very rounded and smoothed out design. Having the prototypes in hand, it is extremely smooth and pleasing to touch while not having the usual harsh look and feel that we are so accustomed to with keyboards. The unbuilt board weighs around 3.3 kg, or 7.25 pounds. The prototypes that I have are a bit on the heavier side, weighing in at 3.5kg. Honestly not sure why there is this weight difference however expect the board to weigh around 3.3kg

Case Colours


In terms of colours and materials, e-white and e-black are going to be available for sure as I am happy with how they look and how well the light reflects off of them in person. E coatings are relatively faster than anodization, which means faster turnaround time. Initially these two colours were chosen as they are always available and personally believing that they fit the design the best. That being said, I am still exploring different colours and am thinking of a pastel blue and pink to go along with the black and white. Additionally, a frosted polycarbonate version is also on the table for discussion. Let me know what other colour suggestions and material suggestions you have in the feedback form.

Plate designs and materials

One other subject that I want to touch on is the plate design and the plate material. For the prototypes, a brass plate was manufactured however due to the lack of flex cuts and how stiff the gaskets that were chosen are, the typing experience is extremely stiff. From what I’ve read and what I’ve experimented with over the years, I believe that linear switches should have a stiff plate and typing experience to prevent mushiness, and tactile switches should be used with a more flexible plate to allow for a almost softer bump and a less harsh bottom out after the tactile bump.

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This current version of the board is designed to have linear switches as those are my current preference. I am a big fan of having a stiff typing experience with linears, however, I do understand that the current trend is to have a slightly softer and flexier typing experience regardless of switch type. The final plate material for the product is still undetermined and I will be collecting information on what plate material to use in the feedback form.

The other thing that I want to discuss is the lack of flex cuts in the design. I only see the point in adding flex cuts in a plate material that is already very stiff or inflexible to begin with. However, I prefer a stiff typing experience so it was not added to the design. In the case that the final material of the plate is a more flexible material, (FR4 or PC or something along those lines), I believe that flex cuts are not necessary, but I will test how they feel if I do end up testing those materials. I most likely will be releasing the step file and other files for the plate (with non-profit clause licensing) in the future so that people can make their own. I highly suggest people to experiment with flex cuts and different materials for the plate and try to figure out what works best for them.

Current typing feel & build experience

The current prototype that I have is built with OA switches (JWK recolour), PBT keycaps (islander) on a brass plate with Poron gaskets of a compression rate of 25%. The current gaskets that are being used isn’t exactly a perfect solution, however it works. The gaskets aren’t custom cut and it comes in a long strip and it’s just cut to size. Not going to lie, it looks kind of janky right now due to not everything being cut perfectly but it does its job fine. The typing experience on the board is stiff, there is some give to it however not too much. The gaskets are something I’d like to explore and experiment more with, and I’m happy to provide the files for this in the future so that you can all experiment with it yourself. So far, the building experience is fine, with nothing special. The parts all come together really easily, and all the screws are the same diameter thus no need to change bits throughout the build. There are alignment tabs on the interior for the top and bottom case, however there isn’t for the plate. Apart from the plate drifting if you’re not careful turning the case around, there really isn’t anything tricky about the build process.

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I have included the following as a typing/sound test, please check it out. Keep in mind that this was recorded on a really cheap mic and is without any editing whatsoever. The board is definitely on the clacky side, which is expected from a gasket mounted board. This board may potentially be sent to a trusted content creator down the line so please treat this sound test as a preview/sneak peak rather than as what the board should sound like.

Sound Test:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LwmtFWOIVatPpQc2oDDBuHDZPOef5aDh/view?usp=sharing

Case design, price and packaging

Having a round design aesthetic is just a personal like. I wanted this board to clean and try to get it so that it could fit into any desk and not look out of place. The other thing that I disliked with a conventional keyboard is how stiff it looked on my desk. I wanted something that appeared to be softer, almost more organic. One very good observation from a discord server where I posted the images of the prototype describing the board as “the softness felt from the appearance that does not seem to be from a blunt instrument” originally: 鈍器とは思えない外見から感じる柔らかさ). That one gave me quite the chuckle and I’m glad that the intent of the design was conveyed.

One other aspect that I was really focused on is how it would feel when you have it in person. Does touching the case by itself want you to hold it more? Does it fit will into my hand when I’m holding the board? Do the curves of the board match and not feel awkward to feel when you’re typing on it? Luckily the board turned out to hold and handle way better than I expected and it’s quite satisfying to hold the board from the north facing side and the bottom facing side. The matte E-white finish does add a lot to the feel, it has a smooth feeling that is quite pleasant to the touch. It feels like holding a smooth metal ball and it’s quite satisfying.

One particular aspect that I was quite fixated was how could I integrate the seam into the board without it standing out. One of the easiest ways to make the side profile seem seamless is move the seam to the bottom of the board. This however increases the machining costs and overall cost of the board. That was considered however required a massive redesign of the side profile that I was quite content with so that option wasn’t really explored further. The solution that I came up with was to make the seam right where the fillet of the top case meets the side. This allows for the seam to blend into the board and just seem like the transition of the fillet to the side of the case. This image shown below should give you a good idea of what’s going on with the seam.

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Having nice packaging is a newer trend that’s starting to become more popular as keyboard GB runners are providing. I would like to talk a bit briefly about this. Nice packaging is always nice and adds a lot to the initial experience and the impression of the board, however it comes at a cost. Currently I am considering one of two things. 1) to have extremely simple and barebones packaging to try and push the price down or 2) have a nicer packaging at the expense of pushing the costs up. One other thought to keep in mind is that when producing small volume batches, it doesn’t make sense to order custom packaging economically. I would like to hear your thoughts on this topic as this would have a direct impact on the price for the final product. That being said, I would like to have nice packaging however it might not be justifiable considering how I don’t have too much experience in this field but is something that I am willing to learn and work on.

In terms of pricing, I honestly have no idea how I would price this reasonably for smaller batches. This board is naturally already on the expensive side due to its size (its longer and wider than a standard TKL) and the design that requires a long machining time. Unfortunately, due to the curves of the board, this adds to the machining costs. It’s not particularly absurd, however it is very high compared to more traditional rectangular board without curves. In small batches (think sub 50 units), the board will be priced absurdly high at more than 400 USD, however that is simply due to economies of scale and having a factory with high quality. Keep in mind that this is just a rough estimate, and this number will be updated as I gather more information and finalize the design and figure out other necessary information for the project. I will do my best to push this number down to the best of my ability.

Hotswap? Hotswap? Hotswap? Hotswap? Hotswap?

One of the questions that I can already anticipate is will this board be available in hotswap? The short answer is maybe if you’re willing to learn how to solder. This board has quite a bit of space on the inside and after checking the spec sheets will have no problems with hot swap compatibility with 7305 millmax sockets. With 0305, it may be close, I have not tested it yet. I personally am not a fan of hotswap, as I believe that it takes away from the sound and the aesthetic. I can’t stand to see crooked caps on a board and using hotswap sockets/millmax/holtie may result in crooked keys. There are additional problems with hotswap boards such as more points of failure for a pcb, and other additional problems that I won’t go into. As of right now I can’t see myself designing a hotswap PCB for the foreseeable future, as this hobby is in the DIY category and in this category it’s important to learn different skills. For those that don’t know how to solder, I highly suggest you learn how to solder. It’s honestly not too difficult and it’s a very useful skill to learn. This entire hobby is about the experience so why not learn to solder to enhance your experience?

Potential deskmats & other stuff branded with the yeti logo


I’ve had a few people ask me about the potential of doing a deskmat with the yeti logo on it. It is something I’m considering however am not quite sure on what to do about it since I haven’t put too much thought into it. This is one of those if there is enough interest, I’ll seriously consider it and put in the work for it. Let me know what you think about this in the feedback form.

Wrist rest

One of the things that people may consider is a wrist rest for the board. After using this board for a bit now, I noticed that without a wrist rest my wrists are slightly pointed out if they are resting on the desk while typing which is bad for ergonomics. A simple wrist rest will sort this problem out. Due to the shape of the board, I believe a conventional wrist rest might not work for it, nor will a standard wrist rest for an Alice layout. This is due to the modified placement of the triangular protrusion of the board. I don’t believe that I will be designing a wrist rest for this board however if there is enough interest, I can release the dimensions of the board from the source file so that people can make their own.

Founders edition (Ooooo shiny! Ver.)


I have been getting this question a lot and different people asking me about this. A founders edition may exist and is currently in the works. The plan is to have the entire body of the board to be made out of polished stainless steel for that shiny shiny mirror finish. Honestly this is more of a premium product thing that might not even come to fruition as the cost to machine SS for this board design seems quite absurd in terms of pricing. That being said, the idea of a founder’s edition is not off the table.

Closing remarks

If you actually read the entire post to this point, congrats! Thank you for taking time out of your day to read all of this. Overall, I am quite pleased with the prototype of this board and the design. There are a few minor things to fix, however it all isn’t major and just quality of life stuff such as adding divots to where the gaskets will go, finalizing the shape and design for the gaskets, and widening screw holes so that standard screw-drivers can fit. Again, if you have any thoughts or would like to provide feedback on this project, please feel free to do so!

Special thanks


Thanks to all those that helped me out on this super long journey from start to finish! Along the way there were many roadblocks and to those that helped me out, you know who you are, and thank you so much!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Demagine on Wed, 02 December 2020, 12:03:36
I like the look! FYI the sound test link doesn't work.

The weight design is super cute and I'm all for that! Good luck with IC - excited to see where this goes!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 02 December 2020, 12:13:35
Sorry about that, i just posted it and geekhack kinda messed up all my links and stuff and I'm currently trying to fix it all. Thanks for the kind words!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Ireris on Wed, 02 December 2020, 12:23:52
Is there a render of the bottom of the board ?

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Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: GraffitiDecos on Wed, 02 December 2020, 12:27:35
The chonk!
GLWIC

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Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 02 December 2020, 12:29:53
Some nice chonky bezels.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Kinesiologist on Wed, 02 December 2020, 12:31:46
very cute, it would be nice to see the engraved weight from the bottom though :D
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Ustinj on Wed, 02 December 2020, 12:47:25
I like it a lot.

For some reason on the renders, it looks like the left bezel is wider than the one on the right though.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 02 December 2020, 13:00:37
I like it a lot.

For some reason on the renders, it looks like the left bezel is wider than the one on the right though.

This might just be the angle that the renders appear? The prototypes look fine in my opinion. Ill look more into this.

Is there a render of the bottom of the board ?

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Added to the Imgur!
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Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Ireris on Wed, 02 December 2020, 13:06:40
I like it a lot.

For some reason on the renders, it looks like the left bezel is wider than the one on the right though.

This might just be the angle that the renders appear? The prototypes look fine in my opinion. Ill look more into this.

Is there a render of the bottom of the board ?

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Added to the Imgur!
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Kinda sad you can't see the cute boi from the bottom

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Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: ogp3 on Wed, 02 December 2020, 13:06:45
The yeti engraving is so cute! Kinda wish it was on the bottom too, ngl
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: pentawater on Wed, 02 December 2020, 13:21:48
did you render it with a usb opening this time?
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: kk73715 on Wed, 02 December 2020, 13:30:33
any estimate on number of available units?
how was the front height measured?
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: elmo on Wed, 02 December 2020, 13:59:52
did you render it with a usb opening this time?
he even made prototypes. with a USB cutout.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Hugs94 on Wed, 02 December 2020, 14:09:30
I would like to recommend using more than 2 screws to fasten the weight.
I also prefer a more consistent edge on the side profile. angles kind of look out of place? maybe smooth them out a bit more.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Arithmetics on Wed, 02 December 2020, 14:13:15
put that damn yeti on the outside!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 02 December 2020, 14:18:51
Consider supporting stepped Caps.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: zoo on Wed, 02 December 2020, 15:18:59
curvy boi   :p
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: SuplYY on Wed, 02 December 2020, 16:13:02
put the yeti outside !!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: KeebOnMe on Wed, 02 December 2020, 17:06:33
Damn... I really like the yeti engraving. I'm in the camp of having it displayed more on the board but I understand if it's not everyone's preference.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: rymnd6c28 on Wed, 02 December 2020, 19:10:00
Hmm me like round edges.


Nice job man!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 02 December 2020, 21:36:01
any estimate on number of available units?
how was the front height measured?

Not sure about units, will keep you guys updated on that in this post. Front height was measured at where the fillet ends for the top and bottom side of the board (hence the actual top of the board and not on the filleted edge)
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: kbye on Wed, 02 December 2020, 23:07:33
Dope weight design. Looking forward to it! Not a lot of gasket ergos out there.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 03 December 2020, 04:37:57
Watching with interest.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: noorejji on Thu, 03 December 2020, 07:30:58
I would like to apologize for the rudeness in your first thread. I'm glad to see you bounced back. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: ddrfraser1 on Thu, 03 December 2020, 07:41:55
Looks sick. I’d get one
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: LucaLo_ on Thu, 03 December 2020, 09:40:20
Love the curves on this one, glwic!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: andromache on Thu, 03 December 2020, 12:10:37
I LOVE this board. If you decide to engrave a small yeti logo somewhere visible on the board (not dissimilar to the bear), this will be an insta-buy for me. Great work! Do you have a discord or something where we can follow the project?
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Thu, 03 December 2020, 13:36:19
Consider supporting stepped Caps.

Already added in into a new version of the design!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Thu, 03 December 2020, 13:43:38
I like it a lot.

For some reason on the renders, it looks like the left bezel is wider than the one on the right though.

This might just be the angle that the renders appear? The prototypes look fine in my opinion. Ill look more into this.

Is there a render of the bottom of the board ?

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Added to the Imgur!
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Kinda sad you can't see the cute boi from the bottom

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put that damn yeti on the outside!

very cute, it would be nice to see the engraved weight from the bottom though :D

The yeti engraving is so cute! Kinda wish it was on the bottom too, ngl

Damn... I really like the yeti engraving. I'm in the camp of having it displayed more on the board but I understand if it's not everyone's preference.

put the yeti outside !!! :) :) :)

I LOVE this board. If you decide to engrave a small yeti logo somewhere visible on the board (not dissimilar to the bear), this will be an insta-buy for me. Great work! Do you have a discord or something where we can follow the project?

I LOVE this board. If you decide to engrave a small yeti logo somewhere visible on the board (not dissimilar to the bear), this will be an insta-buy for me. Great work! Do you have a discord or something where we can follow the project?

Something like this?
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Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: sangfroid on Thu, 03 December 2020, 14:06:10
Really hoping this can be my first Alice layout board. Great design touches.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: KeebOnMe on Thu, 03 December 2020, 14:14:10
I LOVE the engraving on the back on the board, I hope you go with the blue color too. Regardless I'm very interested, appreciate you taking feedback and potentially adding it! Would you consider the yeti displayed on the bottom left hand side under the three roll cluster section?
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: i luv chuletas on Thu, 03 December 2020, 14:32:10
it'd be criminal not to have the weight of the board show through the back with the yeti being on the outside.

Or at least not to have him on the back of the board.

Or somewhere.

Anywhere.

Plz.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: andromache on Thu, 03 December 2020, 20:57:19
I LOVE the engraving on the back on the board, I hope you go with the blue color too. Regardless I'm very interested, appreciate you taking feedback and potentially adding it! Would you consider the yeti displayed on the bottom left hand side under the three roll cluster section?

seconding this
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: thebreadsaver on Thu, 03 December 2020, 23:15:22
Would definitely buy if the price was reasonable. Been looking for a decent alice since i got into the hobby. So excited for this one! hope you make it to GB
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: elmo on Fri, 04 December 2020, 02:07:32
Something like this?
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yes!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Fri, 04 December 2020, 08:51:27
I LOVE the engraving on the back on the board, I hope you go with the blue color too. Regardless I'm very interested, appreciate you taking feedback and potentially adding it! Would you consider the yeti displayed on the bottom left hand side under the three roll cluster section?

Pastel blue is currently in the works!

In terms of adding the yeti to the front of the board, unfortunately, I don't think that it will be added. I want the top side of the board to be as clean as possible. During my initial design, I have already tried adding the Yeti to the top and didn't quite like how it turned out. I'm down to try and add it in again and see if I like how it turns out. Stay tuned!

Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: KeebOnMe on Sat, 05 December 2020, 13:40:31
Fantastic, I'm hoping the sale opens in in q1 2021 if not later so I can save funds for the board!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Bloo Blah Blay on Mon, 07 December 2020, 20:01:13
Love it. I understand why you chose not to make it seamless but I wish it was.

Can you tell me what's behind the yeti, on the left? I think it's a pillow but would love a confirmation.

Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Shiba1337 on Mon, 07 December 2020, 20:09:35
I love the rounded aesthetic! board looks sick bro.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Mon, 07 December 2020, 23:08:47
Love it. I understand why you chose not to make it seamless but I wish it was.

Can you tell me what's behind the yeti, on the left? I think it's a pillow but would love a confirmation.

its actually the tail of the axolotl in a yeti suit ^^;;
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: thebreadsaver on Thu, 10 December 2020, 16:29:10
Love it. I understand why you chose not to make it seamless but I wish it was.

Can you tell me what's behind the yeti, on the left? I think it's a pillow but would love a confirmation.

its actually the tail of the axolotl in a yeti suit ^^;;

omg i never saw it till now. that's adorable
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Fannie_w on Thu, 10 December 2020, 20:25:35
I really need it to go with my Yeeti keyset! :))
But I'd rather have the yeti logo on the shell ;D




Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Techichi on Thu, 10 December 2020, 20:35:07
I want this to be my first Alice style board. However, I prefer the yeti logo on the inside...not the outside of the board.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: BeachFan69 on Thu, 10 December 2020, 22:26:55
I neeed this.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Tue, 15 December 2020, 17:06:33
I want this to be my first Alice style board. However, I prefer the yeti logo on the inside...not the outside of the board.

Currently seeing what I can do about the yeti logo, most of the feedback I've gotten is asking for it on the outside, however, I am considering a version where the logo is not shown. I can see why people want the yeti on the outside and the appeal yet I can also understand why there are those that would prefer if the logo is not shown.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Captain Apathy on Wed, 16 December 2020, 08:51:09
Registered to weigh in on the visible-vs-hidden logo. At first I wanted it visible on the bottom. I mean, it's a super cool logo, who wouldn't want to give it a peek every now and then. But now I'm leaning more toward having it hidden (i.e., engraved on the internal weight) since it's somewhat in line with the name of the board itself. It's a yeti! Who's ever seen one? No one. That's the mystique, it's a legend, they don't exist. It's kind of fun to know there's a logo in there that only you can see, someone casually handling the board won't get to see it. It's private, for you only.

Either way, absolutely love this board and will definitely try for one.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 21 December 2020, 12:04:40
personally i just like a visible weight on the bottom. I would vote for yeti weight showing on bottom.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 22 December 2020, 04:18:29
I also think a Yeti on the bottom right would look very cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: bluedesign97 on Tue, 22 December 2020, 20:04:03
Lacking of LED indicator was intentional?
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: elmo on Wed, 23 December 2020, 02:55:18
Lacking of LED indicator was intentional?

most custom boards don't have indicator LEDs
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Mon, 28 December 2020, 18:06:49
Lacking of LED indicator was intentional?

Yes it was, Im personally not a fan of the indicators and didn't want them. I have a version with the LEDs and I didn't like how it turned out which is why it wont be featured.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: gex on Wed, 06 January 2021, 17:17:21
this reminds me the previous generation of macbooks (especially in that silver) which is a good thing as it was the most beautiful computer mankind ever made. i dunno about keyboard cases but i felt i must buy this immediately i saw the renders. regarding the details, i prefer having the yeti inside (liked the explanation of Captain Apathy) and no visible indicators. i filled the feedback form and wish you (and myself) a successful gb!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 06 January 2021, 19:36:48
this reminds me the previous generation of macbooks (especially in that silver) which is a good thing as it was the most beautiful computer mankind ever made. i dunno about keyboard cases but i felt i must buy this immediately i saw the renders. regarding the details, i prefer having the yeti inside (liked the explanation of Captain Apathy) and no visible indicators. i filled the feedback form and wish you (and myself) a successful gb!

Thank you! Unfortunately due to popular demand and almost every single feedback form I've gotten the yeti will be on the outside. I understand where you're coming from and personally my own choice would be to keep the yeti on the inside however I feel that having the yeti on the outside of the case adds more character to the board. Thank you for the feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: Finite on Thu, 07 January 2021, 16:19:42
Hoping this will be my first Alice inspired board, but those bezels on the left and right are a little too thick in the prototype compared to the renders. I still love it, here's hoping the price is nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Fri, 08 January 2021, 07:53:27
Hoping this will be my first Alice inspired board, but those bezels on the left and right are a little too thick in the prototype compared to the renders. I still love it, here's hoping the price is nice!

Have you checked the image gallery? The bezel difference from the protos and the renders might just simply be due to the lighting and the angles. I can assure you that the render files used here are the ones that were sent to production so there should be no difference. I have checked over the files and made sure that it was within tolerances. Thanks for the kind words!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 13 January 2021, 22:12:00
This Yeti is the cutest thing ever !

Sadly I don't think I could use a board without arrows, and I doubt this is a change that would be considered :(
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: AxolStudio on Thu, 14 January 2021, 07:30:19
This Yeti is the cutest thing ever !

Sadly I don't think I could use a board without arrows, and I doubt this is a change that would be considered :(

At this point and this late into the design unfortunately arrows wont be added however consider using layers, you can map arrows to the keys anyways c:
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: CookieFlow on Thu, 14 January 2021, 07:44:37
Totally understandable.

I tried using layers or functions on 60% in the past, but as a programmer I use arrows way too often that I need dedicated ones.

It's pretty difficult to find Alice style boards with them, and this rounded design with the cute Yeti is awesome but sadly I don't think I could use it myself.
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 14 January 2021, 08:03:10
Totally understandable.

I tried using layers or functions on 60% in the past, but as a programmer I use arrows way too often that I need dedicated ones.

It's pretty difficult to find Alice style boards with them, and this rounded design with the cute Yeti is awesome but sadly I don't think I could use it myself.


It took me about a month to get fully vested in the HHKB layout...  I have more issues with smaller boards ditching / and ' these days.   If you work at it though you can survive as a programmer without arrows for sure.  I promise!
Title: Re: [IC] Yeti: Alice Gasket Mounted with extra heft (Prototype Gallery Included)
Post by: CookieFlow on Thu, 14 January 2021, 08:11:17
Totally understandable.

I tried using layers or functions on 60% in the past, but as a programmer I use arrows way too often that I need dedicated ones.

It's pretty difficult to find Alice style boards with them, and this rounded design with the cute Yeti is awesome but sadly I don't think I could use it myself.


It took me about a month to get fully vested in the HHKB layout...  I have more issues with smaller boards ditching / and ' these days.   If you work at it though you can survive as a programmer without arrows for sure.  I promise!

You are right, I'm sure you get used to it.
I misworded it.
I have several boards and I like to change between them fairly frequently, and all of them have arrows so in that sense it would be a lot harder to get used to. If I was only using a layout without them, I would eventually get up to speed.
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: AxolStudio on Tue, 16 March 2021, 19:11:14
Updated 03/16/2021
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: mariachiforhire on Tue, 16 March 2021, 22:30:32
i love the design ... wish the yeti was at the bottom of the board.
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 17 March 2021, 08:32:24
i love the design ... wish the yeti was at the bottom of the board.

Its added onto the bottom, will update onto the post
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: ReverbSlush on Wed, 17 March 2021, 08:35:35
Love the color choices.  Making it hard to choose (that’s a good thing!)
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: andromache on Wed, 17 March 2021, 09:10:43
The pink polycarb looks like it's going to be amazing. I love this.
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 17 March 2021, 15:35:15
The pink polycarb looks like it's going to be amazing. I love this.

Love the color choices.  Making it hard to choose (that’s a good thing!)

Thanks for the kind words! The colours went through many iterations and it was a struggle for me to decide on which colours to choose. Glad you like them
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: Bub on Mon, 12 April 2021, 10:38:43
Looking forward to this! GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: hexa on Mon, 12 April 2021, 19:44:33
Echoing the great colors, excited for this one!
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: Xyzzyka on Wed, 14 April 2021, 21:28:49
I liked the inner yeti/plainer bottom too... shame the weight’s not flippable. Pondering this anyhow!
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: Milky_Mooncake on Wed, 12 May 2021, 03:35:49
When i saw that pink polycarbonate case i was so excited about it until i saw KDBFans is the only vendor. :C
had to pay 40 euros in customs for an 22 dollar switch tester, never again
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 12 May 2021, 08:10:10
When i saw that pink polycarbonate case i was so excited about it until i saw KDBFans is the only vendor. :C
had to pay 40 euros in customs for an 22 dollar switch tester, never again

Glad to see that you like the board! Unfortunately for the customs thing that is tied into the EU region. Even if there was another vendor that was local in Europe, they would still have to pay for VAT and other customs fees and that cost will still be passed onto you in the form of a higher base price. I hope you understand that this isn't really a KBDFans issue however mainly just Europe really likes its import taxes. That being said, if you still find import costs unreasonable that's perfectly fine, please make financially responsible decisions.
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 5/12/21, GB Date & other info)
Post by: uamaxim on Fri, 28 May 2021, 18:45:53
This looks like my dream board; gasket mount PC alice with a PC plate, but I wish there was a more neutral color option for the polycarbonate :(
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 5/12/21, GB Date & other info)
Post by: Tomn on Fri, 28 May 2021, 20:15:41
Saw this on KBDFANS, looks really cute!
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 3/16/21, Colours & Vendor)
Post by: WilsonWan on Tue, 08 June 2021, 04:17:58
When i saw that pink polycarbonate case i was so excited about it until i saw KDBFans is the only vendor. :C
had to pay 40 euros in customs for an 22 dollar switch tester, never again

Glad to see that you like the board! Unfortunately for the customs thing that is tied into the EU region. Even if there was another vendor that was local in Europe, they would still have to pay for VAT and other customs fees and that cost will still be passed onto you in the form of a higher base price. I hope you understand that this isn't really a KBDFans issue however mainly just Europe really likes its import taxes. That being said, if you still find import costs unreasonable that's perfectly fine, please make financially responsible decisions.

Nice little cute alice! im almost certain to get one.

Regarding regional vendors, i think it is still worth getting a local vendor for UK/EU etc if you can because import cost also has courier fee which can be completely avoided with a vendor, meaning we are only subject to VAT rather than VAT + duties + courier fee
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 5/12/21, GB Date & other info)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 12 July 2021, 12:42:17
No stepped caps? Is there a reason?
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 5/12/21, GB Date & other info)
Post by: AxolStudio on Mon, 12 July 2021, 13:03:19
No stepped caps? Is there a reason?

Its there, just not updated into the lastest version of the images.
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 5/12/21, GB Date & other info)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 12 July 2021, 14:53:18
No stepped caps? Is there a reason?

Its there, just not updated into the lastest version of the images.

Thanks! I can't read..
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 5/12/21, GB Date & other info)
Post by: Curin Derwin on Tue, 13 July 2021, 16:26:00
Indicators aside: Will the PCBs have LEDs for keys?
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 5/12/21, GB Date & other info)
Post by: AxolStudio on Tue, 13 July 2021, 16:35:29
Indicators aside: Will the PCBs have LEDs for keys?

There will not be LEDs for caps lock, however there will be RGB backlighting for the hotswap version of the pcb.
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 5/12/21, GB Date & other info)
Post by: Curin Derwin on Wed, 14 July 2021, 01:27:52
Indicators aside: Will the PCBs have LEDs for keys?

There will not be LEDs for caps lock, however there will be RGB backlighting for the hotswap version of the pcb.

Thank you. What material will the gaskets be?
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 5/12/21, GB Date & other info)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 14 July 2021, 02:00:27
Indicators aside: Will the PCBs have LEDs for keys?

There will not be LEDs for caps lock, however there will be RGB backlighting for the hotswap version of the pcb.

Thank you. What material will the gaskets be?

Poron
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: mintyfruits on Wed, 21 July 2021, 12:45:53
When is this projected to ship? I scoured the KBDFans page and the Axol site and couldn’t find it. :( mobile only though, so might be a formatting thing.
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: AxolStudio on Wed, 21 July 2021, 14:38:30
When is this projected to ship? I scoured the KBDFans page and the Axol site and couldn’t find it. :( mobile only though, so might be a formatting thing.

Currently, no projected time as the GB is unlimited. With how messy the current global situation is and how easily it is for lead times to shift especially when manufacturing time is linearly tied to the number of units sold, we cant give you an answer until the GB closes. Hope that answers your question
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: mintyfruits on Wed, 21 July 2021, 16:06:48
When is this projected to ship? I scoured the KBDFans page and the Axol site and couldn’t find it. :( mobile only though, so might be a formatting thing.

Currently, no projected time as the GB is unlimited. With how messy the current global situation is and how easily it is for lead times to shift especially when manufacturing time is linearly tied to the number of units sold, we cant give you an answer until the GB closes. Hope that answers your question

It certainly does! And that’s completely understandable. Thanks much for clarifying. Now I just have to pick a colour. :)
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: jdbaker82 on Fri, 23 July 2021, 10:31:38
I don't see a ETA on production delivery once GB ends on Aug 15?
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: mintyfruits on Sat, 31 July 2021, 12:10:31
Hi all, another question for you. I’ve been away from building boards for a while and brass plates were still relatively new when I was last building. I’m a bit torn and uncertain on which plate to choose. I’ve read that brass plates can get dirty. Is this true? Are there any stability concerns on the half plate options?

Insights and opinions would be very valued. :)
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: AxolStudio on Sat, 31 July 2021, 15:47:45
Hi all, another question for you. I’ve been away from building boards for a while and brass plates were still relatively new when I was last building. I’m a bit torn and uncertain on which plate to choose. I’ve read that brass plates can get dirty. Is this true? Are there any stability concerns on the half plate options?

Insights and opinions would be very valued. :)

Brass, like all predominantly copper alloys, will patina over time as a result of oxidation. Most of the time brass pieces arent coated and will get "dirty" over time. In terms of stability for half plate nothing to worry about as long as you use a soldered pcb. The option to purchase a hotswap pcb along with a half plate has been disabled due to reliability and stability concerns.

Hope this answers your questions.
Title: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: vi0till on Sat, 31 July 2021, 18:04:23
Will hotswap pcb support stepped capslock?


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Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: HappyB0T on Sun, 01 August 2021, 22:16:21
Those prototypes really resonated how cool this board is - couldn't get that from the renders for some reason. Great work. Generally I have passed on keyboards that had overstated logos on them. This is one I could be very happy with but I am sure for some it would be a turn off. Possibly having 2 versions of weights is a viable solution. Having 2 / 3 types of bottoms might be harder to QC. Excited to see what you go with. This is the first Alice style that I really have liked and would ever consider. Fantastic job!
Title: Re: [IC]Axolstudio Yeti: Gasket alice-layout (Updated 7/13/21, Sound test, demo)
Post by: matchaboba on Sun, 01 August 2021, 22:26:26
Those prototypes really resonated how cool this board is - couldn't get that from the renders for some reason. Great work. Generally I have passed on keyboards that had overstated logos on them. This is one I could be very happy with but I am sure for some it would be a turn off. Possibly having 2 versions of weights is a viable solution. Having 2 / 3 types of bottoms might be harder to QC. Excited to see what you go with. This is the first Alice style that I really have liked and would ever consider. Fantastic job!
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