Post by: olivia on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:45:08
Mailing list here: http://eepurl.com/dnfo0X (http://eepurl.com/dnfo0X)
Hi everyone!! I'd like to officially announce the interest check for a set I've been working on for a little while. Originally born from my love of all things rose gold, it is the perfect companion for any board you throw at it. I hope you like it as much as I do!
(https://i.imgur.com/rtNuicR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XqmC7KJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eqhhF8G.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ljQ3PJC.jpg)
Kits
Currently offered are a base kit & extras kit. The extras kit offers alternate colors, and compatibility with all your favorite 40% boards.
(https://i.imgur.com/5aQ52BJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XmLA9oY.jpg)
Artisans
I'm super excited to be working with RAMA Works to offer a special edition of aluminum XO artisan keys alongside with GMK Olivia.
(https://i.imgur.com/dcXtzPf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ib0NsxJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vKcD7Y9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/21NAFvO.jpg)
Vendors
The main vendor for the group buy will be NovelKeys with CandyKeys, Monokei & Zfrontier as the proxy vendors for EU, SEA, and Asia respectively.
Pricing
Currently the quoted prices are $140 for the base kit and $45 for the extras at NovelKeys. Pricing for the proxy vendors is incoming.
Special Thanks
This interest check couldn't have been made a reality without the support of a lot of people in the keyboard community. Special thanks to Rama, Kate, Oblotzky, Mike, Discord friends and many others <2
Post by: tomu on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:47:33
Post by: mgsickler on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:48:00
Post by: Allo on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:48:53
Post by: Sshimosawa on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:49:42
Post by: Captain Shwah on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:50:26
Post by: manofinterests on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:51:13
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:53:34
But the <2 throws me off so much.
No chance of changing it to <3?
Post by: Wilba on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:53:43
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:58:53
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:59:47
Looks great Olivia! Happy to have some matching caps with it :D
Post by: mgsickler on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:01:22
I'm in.
Looks great Olivia! Happy to have some matching caps with it
I was so happy when you said you were in for making the custom artisans for this set.
Can’t wait for that M60 launch!
Post by: frostbyte-gaming on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:01:28
Post by: olivia on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:03:44
Nice, I’m in.
But the <2 throws me off so much.
No chance of changing it to <3?
Thank you so much! You will learn to love the <2 ;D
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:04:10
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Post by: tomu on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:05:06
Nice, I’m in.
But the <2 throws me off so much.
No chance of changing it to <3?
Join the Top Clack discord to find out ;D
Post by: RoostyPls on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:06:28
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:09:37
This will go nicely with my Rose Gold Zephyr ;D
Rose Gold Zephyr? I’m so jelly. :'(
Nice, I’m in.
But the <2 throws me off so much.
No chance of changing it to <3?
Join the Top Clack discord to find out ;D
Nice, I’m in.
But the <2 throws me off so much.
No chance of changing it to <3?
Thank you so much! You will learn to love the <2 ;D
I need to stop being lame and make a Discord account already. Maybe tonight. =(
Post by: mycroft on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:10:39
Post by: excluisve on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:12:58
Happens !
I’m in . Great work Olivia :thumb:
Post by: prelude46 on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:14:25
Post by: excluisve on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:15:01
You should have a account 😆This will go nicely with my Rose Gold Zephyr ;D
Rose Gold Zephyr? I’m so jelly. :'(Nice, I’m in.
But the <2 throws me off so much.
No chance of changing it to <3?
Join the Top Clack discord to find out ;DNice, I’m in.
But the <2 throws me off so much.
No chance of changing it to <3?
Thank you so much! You will learn to love the <2 ;D
I need to stop being lame and make a Discord account already. Maybe tonight. =(
Post by: Walkerstop on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:16:51
Post by: koduh on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:21:56
Post by: soveryscary on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:22:41
Post by: olivia on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:26:14
Would you consider running this in DCS? GMK is too thick for my liking.
Maybe DSS in the future!
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:28:03
Post by: tomu on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:35:18
pfft, not even G20, get outta here.Would you consider running this in DCS? GMK is too thick for my liking.
Maybe DSS in the future!
Post by: dyrdevil on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:38:46
A question about the alphas color: In the Rama renders it looks considerably more beige than the whiter shade on the other renders. Which will it be?
I personally think if the alphas were a softer white/beige and the mods a gentle dark grey (ie a bit less contrast between the two) it might complement the softness of the rose color well.
not to be critical - it looks amazing, just my two cents
Post by: Koobaczech on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:40:58
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:48:44
I personally think if the alphas were a softer white/beige and the mods a gentle dark grey (ie a bit less contrast between the two) it might complement the softness of the rose color well.
What this user said resonates with me.
Post by: olivia on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:51:07
I've been waiting to hear more about this and it looks fantastic.
A question about the alphas color: In the Rama renders it looks considerably more beige than the whiter shade on the other renders. Which will it be?
I personally think if the alphas were a softer white/beige and the mods a gentle dark grey (ie a bit less contrast between the two) it might complement the softness of the rose color well.
not to be critical - it looks amazing, just my two cents
Thanks for the feedback!!! :) I'm using CP as the alphas bg so it will be somewhat in between the rama & oblotzky renders looking at this:
(https://i.redditmedia.com/2jGpc_WBbwlt5qga4chcvabGN8eNvLfpslK1aEpdnV8.jpg?w=1024&s=d7e41ac81ea35818a9d2e303e94d8480)
Post by: Shenpai on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:52:30
Post by: icyskyz on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:54:27
Post by: jebbra on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:56:11
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:57:09
Post by: Theswetiyeti on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:57:23
Post by: hamilton on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:00:57
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:15:59
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Post by: prelude46 on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:34:45
I've been waiting to hear more about this and it looks fantastic.
A question about the alphas color: In the Rama renders it looks considerably more beige than the whiter shade on the other renders. Which will it be?
I personally think if the alphas were a softer white/beige and the mods a gentle dark grey (ie a bit less contrast between the two) it might complement the softness of the rose color well.
not to be critical - it looks amazing, just my two cents
I agree with this. I think the mods could be a shade or two lighter so that it brings out the color of the rose color. But you do you!
Post by: cijanzen on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:39:50
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:41:20
Additionally, regarding the kits, I feel like having (as I understand it) UK-ISO in the extras kit might be a little awkward for some people - I don't personally have an issue with it because I only have 2 ISO boards out of like 8. That said, again, I'd assume you have already done the math on it and come to the conclusion that overall this is the better way to go about it economically speaking.
Great job, best of luck!
Post by: Potatoes on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:52:05
Post by: pancaeks on Mon, 05 March 2018, 23:11:17
Post by: mudcakehoney on Mon, 05 March 2018, 23:12:10
Post by: emenelopee on Mon, 05 March 2018, 23:26:21
Looking at CP in front of me, I think it's too white for the overall feel. Maybe choose the more cream one (L9?) like in the render with Rama's X?
Echoing the cream. In any case, this is a glorious keyset.
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Mon, 05 March 2018, 23:56:57
Post by: bthezebra on Mon, 05 March 2018, 23:57:44
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 06 March 2018, 00:56:22
Just kidding- I'm with everyone else here- bring this bad boy on, looks great, Olivia!
If I had one wish, I'd like to see a 1.25u R4 Fn- been appreciating having that in sets lately, but I'm in no doubt about it. :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: ok2094 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 02:50:53
Post by: skozz on Tue, 06 March 2018, 03:02:31
Thank you!
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 06 March 2018, 03:19:33
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Post by: Muiju on Tue, 06 March 2018, 07:07:53
Post by: Ricinco on Tue, 06 March 2018, 07:31:42
Post by: avid on Tue, 06 March 2018, 07:49:16
You can do ISO with just R3 1u, R4 1u, ISO enter, Shift. But instead we have 4 keys for the same spot and the <2 key which doesn't really have any functionality. My suggestion would be to move 4 ISO keys to basekit, and move any combination of the keys below:
(https://i.imgur.com/ApvsIjE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/W4cyIzC.png)
In ISO, the extra 2,3 and left to "1" and 2 different R3 is not needed.
Post by: MeloDet on Tue, 06 March 2018, 08:39:47
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 06 March 2018, 08:43:12
Can we have this in SA please? :-*
Post by: jahallen on Tue, 06 March 2018, 08:46:26
Post by: jihadu on Tue, 06 March 2018, 08:47:10
Every keyset IC needs a person wanting a different profile, let me be yours:jk
Can we have this in SA please? :-*
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 06 March 2018, 08:49:31
Every keyset IC needs a person wanting a different profile, let me be yours:
Can we have this in SA please? :-*
Sounds like a job for you Oblotzky!!
I still can’t wait to see a DSS set...
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Post by: olivia on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:11:35
Looking at CP in front of me, I think it's too white for the overall feel. Maybe choose the more cream one (L9?) like in the render with Rama's X?
I've been looking at pictures of Stormtrooper (CP) online, and it seems to look more creamy depending on different lights.
(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0NoA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CD8rW04.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6xCgIwBr.jpg)
Once I get the color samples from GMK I'll be able to compare a little better, currently I only have Pristine (L9) which I find a little too yellow. If you have a CP set, do you mind letting me know which picture is more representative?
Post by: frostbyte-gaming on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:13:14
Every keyset IC needs a person wanting a different profile, let me be yours:
Can we have this in SA please? :-*
Finally someone else who gets it. Needs more SA <2.
Post by: koduh on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:17:41
Every keyset IC needs a person wanting a different profile, let me be yours:
Can we have this in SA please? :-*
You are late to the meme game Oblotzkey bro. :))
Would you consider running this in DCS? GMK is too thick for my liking.
Post by: olivia on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:19:58
Please include the 6u center-stemmed spacebar in both the base kit and add-ons for compatibility with the incredibly popular Realforce 87U and HHKB (and the less popular Infinity 60%). This is a must have in modern GMK sets.
I see what I can do :) I have both of those boards, it would be nice to support them too.
I love that this has ortho compatibility. Is there any chance of having the blank rose gold keys in the extras kit be convex?
I had no clue that GMK offered 1u convex keys :eek: I'll see how much it bumps the price :D
$45 extra for ISO?
You can do ISO with just R3 1u, R4 1u, ISO enter, Shift. But instead we have 4 keys for the same spot and the <2 key which doesn't really have any functionality. My suggestion would be to move 4 ISO keys to basekit, and move any combination of the keys below:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ApvsIjE.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/W4cyIzC.png)
In ISO, the extra 2,3 and left to "1" and 2 different R3 is not needed.
Thank you so much for your suggestion, I'm a bit unfamiliar with ISO layouts so your feedback helps a lot! My aim is to concentrate interest in the ISO + 40% + alt colors for the extras because of the high MOQ. Unfortunately it does mean that the kit will cost more than just a solo ISO kit :(
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:29:04
$45 extra for ISO?
You can do ISO with just R3 1u, R4 1u, ISO enter, Shift. But instead we have 4 keys for the same spot and the <2 key which doesn't really have any functionality. My suggestion would be to move 4 ISO keys to basekit, and move any combination of the keys below:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ApvsIjE.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/W4cyIzC.png)
In ISO, the extra 2,3 and left to "1" and 2 different R3 is not needed.
No. It's $140 for a kit that supports the most popular layouts and pleases the most people (inc. some novelty 1U keys for the WKL/HHKB users), and $45 to accommodate less common layouts.
The designer has carefully thought about this division in kits, and bundled ISO, ortholinear and "boring spacebars and arrow keys" into it's own kit, and perhaps leaned slightly towards giving HHKB, 60% and 65% users what they crave without needing to get the extras kit. That makes more sense than putting the bare minimum ISO keys into the base kit at the expense of HHKB/60%/novelty keys.
IMHO it's a refreshing change from having to subsidize ISO users in every GMK base kit I buy :p
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:29:51
Looking at CP in front of me, I think it's too white for the overall feel. Maybe choose the more cream one (L9?) like in the render with Rama's X?
I've been looking at pictures of Stormtrooper (CP) online, and it seems to look more creamy depending on different lights.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0NoA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CD8rW04.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6xCgIwBr.jpg)
Once I get the color samples from GMK I'll be able to compare a little better, currently I only have Pristine (L9) which I find a little too yellow. If you have a CP set, do you mind letting me know which picture is more representative?
GMK Oblivion Hagoromo alphas uses CP
(https://i.redd.it/3p5hxk5okeb01.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GhCMBhL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bK38p14.jpg)
it's basically the RGB equivialent of 235/235/235 or so, a slight off-white.
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:31:26
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:44:58
Looking at CP in front of me, I think it's too white for the overall feel. Maybe choose the more cream one (L9?) like in the render with Rama's X?
I've been looking at pictures of Stormtrooper (CP) online, and it seems to look more creamy depending on different lights.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0NoA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CD8rW04.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6xCgIwBr.jpg)
Once I get the color samples from GMK I'll be able to compare a little better, currently I only have Pristine (L9) which I find a little too yellow. If you have a CP set, do you mind letting me know which picture is more representative?
GMK Oblivion Hagoromo alphas uses CPShow Image(https://i.redd.it/3p5hxk5okeb01.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GhCMBhL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bK38p14.jpg)
it's basically the RGB equivialent of 235/235/235 or so, a slight off-white.
I'll take photos of the whites from GMK samples tomorrow, will include a gray card if I can find mine :thumb:
Post by: olivia on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:18:37
Looking at CP in front of me, I think it's too white for the overall feel. Maybe choose the more cream one (L9?) like in the render with Rama's X?
I've been looking at pictures of Stormtrooper (CP) online, and it seems to look more creamy depending on different lights.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0NoA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CD8rW04.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6xCgIwBr.jpg)
Once I get the color samples from GMK I'll be able to compare a little better, currently I only have Pristine (L9) which I find a little too yellow. If you have a CP set, do you mind letting me know which picture is more representative?
GMK Oblivion Hagoromo alphas uses CPShow Image(https://i.redd.it/3p5hxk5okeb01.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GhCMBhL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bK38p14.jpg)
it's basically the RGB equivialent of 235/235/235 or so, a slight off-white.
I'll take photos of the whites from GMK samples tomorrow, will include a gray card if I can find mine :thumb:
Looking at CP in front of me, I think it's too white for the overall feel. Maybe choose the more cream one (L9?) like in the render with Rama's X?
I've been looking at pictures of Stormtrooper (CP) online, and it seems to look more creamy depending on different lights.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0NoA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CD8rW04.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6xCgIwBr.jpg)
Once I get the color samples from GMK I'll be able to compare a little better, currently I only have Pristine (L9) which I find a little too yellow. If you have a CP set, do you mind letting me know which picture is more representative?
GMK Oblivion Hagoromo alphas uses CPShow Image(https://i.redd.it/3p5hxk5okeb01.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GhCMBhL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bK38p14.jpg)
it's basically the RGB equivialent of 235/235/235 or so, a slight off-white.
Thanks so much guys!! I might also look at 3K, it seems in between the two :)
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:26:42
Looking at CP in front of me, I think it's too white for the overall feel. Maybe choose the more cream one (L9?) like in the render with Rama's X?
I've been looking at pictures of Stormtrooper (CP) online, and it seems to look more creamy depending on different lights.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0NoA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CD8rW04.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6xCgIwBr.jpg)
Once I get the color samples from GMK I'll be able to compare a little better, currently I only have Pristine (L9) which I find a little too yellow. If you have a CP set, do you mind letting me know which picture is more representative?
GMK Oblivion Hagoromo alphas uses CPShow Image(https://i.redd.it/3p5hxk5okeb01.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GhCMBhL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bK38p14.jpg)
it's basically the RGB equivialent of 235/235/235 or so, a slight off-white.
The whole office just sobs here when we see GMK Oblivion.
GMK Olivia is going to be exciting to have!
Post by: Craxas on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:52:19
Post by: olivia on Tue, 06 March 2018, 11:15:54
(https://i.imgur.com/U2dSR3n.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/rARtQg8.png)
I personally prefer the CP alphas :)
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 06 March 2018, 11:47:02
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:55:57
$45 extra for ISO?
You can do ISO with just R3 1u, R4 1u, ISO enter, Shift. But instead we have 4 keys for the same spot and the <2 key which doesn't really have any functionality. My suggestion would be to move 4 ISO keys to basekit, and move any combination of the keys below:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ApvsIjE.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/W4cyIzC.png)
In ISO, the extra 2,3 and left to "1" and 2 different R3 is not needed.
No. It's $140 for a kit that supports the most popular layouts and pleases the most people (inc. some novelty 1U keys for the WKL/HHKB users), and $45 to accommodate less common layouts.
The designer has carefully thought about this division in kits, and bundled ISO, ortholinear and "boring spacebars and arrow keys" into it's own kit, and perhaps leaned slightly towards giving HHKB, 60% and 65% users what they crave without needing to get the extras kit. That makes more sense than putting the bare minimum ISO keys into the base kit at the expense of HHKB/60%/novelty keys.
IMHO it's a refreshing change from having to subsidize ISO users in every GMK base kit I buy :p
I kinda have to disagree for a few reasons, and that's not because I dont understand what you are saying. I get that you feel you have to subsidies others (whether you put an emoji in there or not), and that keys that get 'little' usage in your opinion shouldn't be included.
Firstly, this secondary kit, at 250 MOQ, is never going to reach its target unless somewhere like Assdrop steps in. 250 is a crazy number of sets for it to achieve. The base kit will have a good chance sure - its a great colourway, and I love it. But I can't buy if it doesn't have even basic ISO support.
Secondly, this hobby is about freedom to choose what layouts you want, across boards and switches - in essence to customise what you have. Here in the UK any PC you buy with a ****ty keyboard, or laptop all has ISO - I've tried ANSI, and I dislike not having quick access to certain keys, or having to retrain my brain when I switch devices.
ISO is part of the ingrained European standard and its difficult for a lot of people to move away from that. Its been used here historically. ANSI users dont subsidise ISO in this - everyone pays for keys that they dont use in any set - thats the beauty of the hobby - we can pick and choose what we want to use. I'm not certain that the Geekhack community is always representative of the whole community - so I expect little traction if anything here - and likely the usual ISO/non-standard bullying.
Finally - if you look at modern usage other staples of the keyset standard base set aren't being made. How many people really use a numpad? what about stepped caps? Multiple coloured enters for one layout are ok, but supporting another layout isn't? The majority of the boards on here are 60% or thereabouts and probably dont need that (I might be shooting myself in the foot here as a TX1800 user and a 65% user with my Noxary 268 amongst 25 or so other top end boards).
My suggestion would be to either include the bare minimum in the base set (like Muted, 9009, oblivion, red samurai, solarised dark etc.etc.).
If that's not palatable I almost question why you would run an extras kit that is almost certain to not make MOQ without Massdrop support, and do as the Chinese GBs do (like Iris, Rainbow, and KA2017/18) and support a single layout only.
Post by: MeloDet on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:04:05
Post by: TheMissingPiece on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:34:39
Would it be possible to add staggered 40s support? A few of my 40s user friends are asking about it. It would also help the extras kit hit MOQ if you were planning on running such a kit.
Post by: WHeisenberg on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:35:08
$45 extra for ISO?
You can do ISO with just R3 1u, R4 1u, ISO enter, Shift. But instead we have 4 keys for the same spot and the <2 key which doesn't really have any functionality. My suggestion would be to move 4 ISO keys to basekit, and move any combination of the keys below:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ApvsIjE.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/W4cyIzC.png)
In ISO, the extra 2,3 and left to "1" and 2 different R3 is not needed.
No. It's $140 for a kit that supports the most popular layouts and pleases the most people (inc. some novelty 1U keys for the WKL/HHKB users), and $45 to accommodate less common layouts.
The designer has carefully thought about this division in kits, and bundled ISO, ortholinear and "boring spacebars and arrow keys" into it's own kit, and perhaps leaned slightly towards giving HHKB, 60% and 65% users what they crave without needing to get the extras kit. That makes more sense than putting the bare minimum ISO keys into the base kit at the expense of HHKB/60%/novelty keys.
IMHO it's a refreshing change from having to subsidize ISO users in every GMK base kit I buy :p
I kinda have to disagree for a few reasons, and that's not because I dont understand what you are saying. I get that you feel you have to subsidies others (whether you put an emoji in there or not), and that keys that get 'little' usage in your opinion shouldn't be included.
Firstly, this secondary kit, at 250 MOQ, is never going to reach its target unless somewhere like Assdrop steps in. 250 is a crazy number of sets for it to achieve. The base kit will have a good chance sure - its a great colourway, and I love it. But I can't buy if it doesn't have even basic ISO support.
Secondly, this hobby is about freedom to choose what layouts you want, across boards and switches - in essence to customise what you have. Here in the UK any PC you buy with a ****ty keyboard, or laptop all has ISO - I've tried ANSI, and I dislike not having quick access to certain keys, or having to retrain my brain when I switch devices.
ISO is part of the ingrained European standard and its difficult for a lot of people to move away from that. Its been used here historically. ANSI users dont subsidise ISO in this - everyone pays for keys that they dont use in any set - thats the beauty of the hobby - we can pick and choose what we want to use. I'm not certain that the Geekhack community is always representative of the whole community - so I expect little traction if anything here - and likely the usual ISO/non-standard bullying.
Finally - if you look at modern usage other staples of the keyset standard base set aren't being made. How many people really use a numpad? what about stepped caps? Multiple coloured enters for one layout are ok, but supporting another layout isn't? The majority of the boards on here are 60% or thereabouts and probably dont need that (I might be shooting myself in the foot here as a TX1800 user and a 65% user with my Noxary 268 amongst 25 or so other top end boards).
My suggestion would be to either include the bare minimum in the base set (like Muted, 9009, oblivion, red samurai, solarised dark etc.etc.).
If that's not palatable I almost question why you would run an extras kit that is almost certain to not make MOQ without Massdrop support, and do as the Chinese GBs do (like Iris, Rainbow, and KA2017/18) and support a single layout only.
So well said! +1
Love the colourway, but you are effectively forcing people to go ansi...
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:39:54
Looking at CP in front of me, I think it's too white for the overall feel. Maybe choose the more cream one (L9?) like in the render with Rama's X?
I've been looking at pictures of Stormtrooper (CP) online, and it seems to look more creamy depending on different lights.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0NoA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CD8rW04.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6xCgIwBr.jpg)
Once I get the color samples from GMK I'll be able to compare a little better, currently I only have Pristine (L9) which I find a little too yellow. If you have a CP set, do you mind letting me know which picture is more representative?
GMK Oblivion Hagoromo alphas uses CPShow Image(https://i.redd.it/3p5hxk5okeb01.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GhCMBhL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bK38p14.jpg)
it's basically the RGB equivialent of 235/235/235 or so, a slight off-white.
What board is that in the top image?
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:40:08
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:44:26
I'm super excited to be working with RAMA Works to offer a special edition of aluminum XO artisan keys alongside with GMK Olivia.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dcXtzPf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Ib0NsxJ.jpg)
100% what I'm getting for my wife. Hope the color comes out great in the end. I'd prefer a less saturated pink with off-white alphas.
Post by: sundin on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:47:42
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:00:18
Basic ISO support is included in the base kit of almost every GMK set ever because it's just about the easiest major layout to support physically. 4 keys and you support a significantly different layout. By not including this small expense in the base kit, you're alienating an entire continent of primarily ISO users, as well as many other countries that use ISO such as China, Korea, Japan, etc. In my opinion this is going to severely hurt the viability of the set. Massdrop can carry sets because of their huge preexisting customer base. Small vendors have to rely on the sheer popularity of the set in both their own countries and through the proxies across other countries. If you don't include basic ISO support in the base kit, you might as well not even have and EU proxy and support from other countries will be impaired, something I don't think you can really stand to have happen with a set that needs 250 moq.
Personally, I would take the time to seriously consider the benefits of having ISO support in the base kit vs the potential costs of it not being in there, for the sake of the existence of the set.
Post by: donut_sauce on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:10:26
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:34:28
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:35:10
Yes!! My favorite anodized and jewelry color. I have 3 keyboards either full rose gold, or with rose gold switch plate, or in light pink. Definitely in.
i forgot to tell you that this was happening
really does remind me of some of your boards
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:38:22
Yes!! My favorite anodized and jewelry color. I have 3 keyboards either full rose gold, or with rose gold switch plate, or in light pink. Definitely in.
i forgot to tell you that this was happening
really does remind me of some of your boards
I'm indeed super excited to see this set. olivia has read my mind!
Post by: mgsickler on Tue, 06 March 2018, 16:08:16
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 06 March 2018, 16:43:10
Requests have already been made to see about ISO prices within the base set. Just as an FYI. Just the waiting game for hearing back.
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Great news - thanks man, and thanks Olivia!!
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 06 March 2018, 17:01:24
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Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 06 March 2018, 17:19:35
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 06 March 2018, 17:37:59
Simple sets get the thumbs up in my book. Very nice work.
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 06 March 2018, 21:04:16
Taken in shade from non-direct sunlight at 10am.
I include a gray card to help with White Balance.
[attachimg=1]
[attachimg=2]
Of course it will be easier to select the appropriate color for the set when you get these on your hands, but hope this will help for now ;D
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 06 March 2018, 21:35:25
Here is a photo of all the keys that were available in the kit.
(https://i.imgur.com/QvZmTo7.png)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 06 March 2018, 21:44:20
GMK Muted renders of 3C (source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88115.0)
(http://i.imgur.com/U2PxhtD.jpg)
Actual 3C: (not my photographs but show the color pretty well)
source: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6tmvn8/gmk_mute/
(https://i.redd.it/1wksrhhpupfz.jpg)
source: https://imgur.com/gallery/PWt5Tdi
(https://i.imgur.com/PWt5Tdi.jpg)
Post by: olivia on Tue, 06 March 2018, 23:46:06
Here's the photo of GMK's Whites (and some other color for reference).
Taken in shade from non-direct sunlight at 10am.
I include a gray card to help with White Balance.
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
Of course it will be easier to select the appropriate color for the set when you get these on your hands, but hope this will help for now ;D
Not that you were talking about it specifically, but since 3C is shown on that photograph I thought I'd mention the following. 3C is quite a bit darker and more orange than the pink in the renders in the OP. It's more of dirty peachy-apricot darker shade in person. Not like the softer muted color on the renders. On some photographs and on renders of kits such as GMK Muted it usually looks less dark and dirty orange-tinted than it really is. I have keycaps made in 3C on my old WEY HK2000, though at the time I didn't realize it was basically 3C. I got GMK Muted color addons, and was disappointed once I actually received the caps.
GMK Muted renders of 3C (source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88115.0)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/U2PxhtD.jpg)
Actual 3C: (not my photographs but show the color pretty well)
source: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6tmvn8/gmk_mute/Show Image(https://i.redd.it/1wksrhhpupfz.jpg)
source: https://imgur.com/gallery/PWt5TdiShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/PWt5Tdi.jpg)
Thanks to you two so much :-* :-* :-*
Post by: olivia on Tue, 06 March 2018, 23:59:48
Hi! I'm chiming in for 40% support, especially the minivan. I also wanted to point out that a recent GMK group buy ran at $155 per base kit and was able to cover a wide range of users: ANSI, ISO, and 40% as well.
Here is a photo of all the keys that were available in the kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QvZmTo7.png)
Ooh this is very close to what I included in my base, just adding ISO & 40% :eek:
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 07 March 2018, 00:39:34
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Post by: hineybush on Wed, 07 March 2018, 00:47:55
Regarding alpha colors: I'm cool with either. L9 is a little more beige, which would def complement the pink I think - if a beige/warm tone set is a goal, consider going towards BV from N9 as well.
Post by: bkw1209 on Wed, 07 March 2018, 06:30:29
Post by: Kellybear on Wed, 07 March 2018, 09:38:34
Hi! I'm chiming in for 40% support, especially the minivan. I also wanted to point out that a recent GMK group buy ran at $155 per base kit and was able to cover a wide range of users: ANSI, ISO, and 40% as well.
Here is a photo of all the keys that were available in the kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QvZmTo7.png)
Ooh this is very close to what I included in my base, just adding ISO & 40% :eek:
It is! That is why I wanted to mention it because $155 was a very fair price and having such universal compatibility allowed the MOQ to be reached.
Post by: kmba on Wed, 07 March 2018, 10:22:56
Post by: zurikade on Wed, 07 March 2018, 10:40:07
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 07 March 2018, 10:54:03
I think you should switch base and add-on spacebars
Since the point of the kit is to have rose gold theme, it makes sense that the more plain non-rose gold option is an addon.
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 07 March 2018, 11:35:30
I think you should switch base and add-on spacebars
Since the point of the kit is to have rose gold theme, it makes sense that the more plain non-rose gold option is an addon.
agreed.
Post by: spacewolf on Wed, 07 March 2018, 13:13:47
Hit me up on Mech Market in several months months if any of you dont like it.
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 07 March 2018, 14:17:47
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Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 07 March 2018, 18:25:53
Post by: floristfran on Wed, 07 March 2018, 18:55:13
Post by: jlboi69 on Wed, 07 March 2018, 18:58:04
Quote
A keyset that includes gold somehow? Yes please.
Bit of a unreasonable request - any chance of a kit with all the alphas black with gold legends?
But yeah, im pretty much guaranteed in.
Post by: tunadesu on Thu, 08 March 2018, 00:13:59
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 08 March 2018, 00:36:05
Looking at CP in front of me, I think it's too white for the overall feel. Maybe choose the more cream one (L9?) like in the render with Rama's X?
I've been looking at pictures of Stormtrooper (CP) online, and it seems to look more creamy depending on different lights.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0NoA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CD8rW04.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6xCgIwBr.jpg)
Once I get the color samples from GMK I'll be able to compare a little better, currently I only have Pristine (L9) which I find a little too yellow. If you have a CP set, do you mind letting me know which picture is more representative?
GMK Oblivion Hagoromo alphas uses CPShow Image(https://i.redd.it/3p5hxk5okeb01.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GhCMBhL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bK38p14.jpg)
it's basically the RGB equivialent of 235/235/235 or so, a slight off-white.
What board is that in the top image?
KMAC Mini
Post by: olivia on Fri, 09 March 2018, 01:47:59
Copypasted from the reddit IC:QuoteA keyset that includes gold somehow? Yes please.
Bit of a unreasonable request - any chance of a kit with all the alphas black with gold legends?
But yeah, im pretty much guaranteed in.
If only I could run multiple options for alphas, unfortunately MOQ makes it very difficult to... :(
Also there is now a mailing list for people to register their interest and stay in the loop!
http://eepurl.com/dnfo0X (http://eepurl.com/dnfo0X)
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Fri, 09 March 2018, 03:33:27
Copypasted from the reddit IC:QuoteA keyset that includes gold somehow? Yes please.
Bit of a unreasonable request - any chance of a kit with all the alphas black with gold legends?
But yeah, im pretty much guaranteed in.
If only I could run multiple options for alphas, unfortunately MOQ makes it very difficult to... :(
Also there is now a mailing list for people to register their interest and stay in the loop!
http://eepurl.com/dnfo0X (http://eepurl.com/dnfo0X)
Thanks Olivia - all signed up :)
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Post by: mgsickler on Fri, 09 March 2018, 08:47:20
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:04:14
Just an update for everyone. I am still waiting to hear back from GMK for some kit updates.
Thanks. Looking forwards to what they say :)
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Post by: midnight2903 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 11:55:57
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 10 March 2018, 00:25:20
Post by: Zombie_Jingles on Sat, 10 March 2018, 05:18:59
3K or L9 also seem like great options, but either way I'm 100% in.
Post by: Haaaaaandrew on Sat, 10 March 2018, 09:47:11
Post by: Lisinge on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:26:22
This set looks absolutely amazing!
My girlfriend instantly fell in love with this set when she saw it and sent me a text with a picture saying that she had to have it! She loves everything rose gold too. So much that we are getting her first mech board cerakoted in a custom rose gold color.
The problem we are having is that she's not as big of a nerd as i am so she doesn't touchtype and has to look at the keys to find some characters.
And we live in Sweden so iwanted to hear if there is any possibility of a nordic (SE NO DK) kit or for that to be included in the iso kit?
Does anyone know any stats on nordic kits reaching moq?
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:38:33
Hi Olivia.
This set looks absolutely amazing!
My girlfriend instantly fell in love with this set when she saw it and sent me a text with a picture saying that she had to have it! She loves everything rose gold too. So much that we are getting her first mech board cerakoted in a custom rose gold color.
The problem we are having is that she's not as big of a nerd as i am so she doesn't touchtype and has to look at the keys to find some characters.
And we live in Sweden so iwanted to hear if there is any possibility of a nordic (SE NO DK) kit or for that to be included in the iso kit?
Does anyone know any stats on nordic kits reaching moq?
if it's not massdrop i am skeptical about a NORDE kit making MOQ, since the only ones that have ever done it organically are
but you never know
Post by: Lisinge on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:45:50
Hi Olivia.
This set looks absolutely amazing!
My girlfriend instantly fell in love with this set when she saw it and sent me a text with a picture saying that she had to have it! She loves everything rose gold too. So much that we are getting her first mech board cerakoted in a custom rose gold color.
The problem we are having is that she's not as big of a nerd as i am so she doesn't touchtype and has to look at the keys to find some characters.
And we live in Sweden so iwanted to hear if there is any possibility of a nordic (SE NO DK) kit or for that to be included in the iso kit?
Does anyone know any stats on nordic kits reaching moq?
if it's not massdrop i am skeptical about a NORDE kit making MOQ, since the only ones that have ever done it organically areGMK nautilus(nope got 82 lol) and GMK laser
but you never know
Thanks puddsy. Yeah i had a quick look after posting and saw the same haha.
That's a shame. One possibility would be mixing olivia mods with alphas from some other set whith white alphas and dark tex. Or even getting custom dyesubbed alphas. I think i saw someone posting a custom dyesubbed set he had made for his wife.
Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 10 March 2018, 15:07:12
Hi Olivia.
This set looks absolutely amazing!
My girlfriend instantly fell in love with this set when she saw it and sent me a text with a picture saying that she had to have it! She loves everything rose gold too. So much that we are getting her first mech board cerakoted in a custom rose gold color.
The problem we are having is that she's not as big of a nerd as i am so she doesn't touchtype and has to look at the keys to find some characters.
And we live in Sweden so iwanted to hear if there is any possibility of a nordic (SE NO DK) kit or for that to be included in the iso kit?
Does anyone know any stats on nordic kits reaching moq?
if it's not massdrop i am skeptical about a NORDE kit making MOQ, since the only ones that have ever done it organically areGMK nautilus(nope got 82 lol) and GMK laser
but you never know
Nautilus reached 105 NORDE kits. And it was the first time that an international kit, and colemak & dvorak have reached the MOQ without the aid of Massdrop.
(https://i.redditmedia.com/vCcVLpYCatvWsn7TyXCUik9md7MpVnG8_mzXQrrP0Fk.png?w=1024&s=a01dcb47d01af861d910d7f41f9a55d0)
Post by: pomk on Sat, 10 March 2018, 18:13:04
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 10 March 2018, 18:33:37
Hi Olivia.
This set looks absolutely amazing!
My girlfriend instantly fell in love with this set when she saw it and sent me a text with a picture saying that she had to have it! She loves everything rose gold too. So much that we are getting her first mech board cerakoted in a custom rose gold color.
The problem we are having is that she's not as big of a nerd as i am so she doesn't touchtype and has to look at the keys to find some characters.
And we live in Sweden so iwanted to hear if there is any possibility of a nordic (SE NO DK) kit or for that to be included in the iso kit?
Does anyone know any stats on nordic kits reaching moq?
if it's not massdrop i am skeptical about a NORDE kit making MOQ, since the only ones that have ever done it organically areGMK nautilus(nope got 82 lol) and GMK laser
but you never know
Nautilus reached 105 NORDE kits. And it was the first time that an international kit, and colemak & dvorak have reached the MOQ without the aid of Massdrop.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/vCcVLpYCatvWsn7TyXCUik9md7MpVnG8_mzXQrrP0Fk.png?w=1024&s=a01dcb47d01af861d910d7f41f9a55d0)
That is a beautiful render. Perfect colors (I want that theoretical case too).
Very much looking forward to joining the GB.
Post by: manzel on Sun, 11 March 2018, 06:42:43
One possibility would be mixing olivia mods with alphas from some other set whith white alphas and dark tex.
You could get 9009 with the international kit. Both still available at mykeyboard.eu. Or just some OG Cherry set. The alphas would be more beige than the Olivia alphas, but some people in this thread seem to like that even more.
Post by: Lisinge on Sun, 11 March 2018, 07:08:34
One possibility would be mixing olivia mods with alphas from some other set whith white alphas and dark tex.
You could get 9009 with the international kit. Both still available at mykeyboard.eu. Or just some OG Cherry set. The alphas would be more beige than the Olivia alphas, but some people in this thread seem to like that even more.
Good idea but would end up costing someqhere around 400eur lol
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 11 March 2018, 09:05:12
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 11 March 2018, 20:54:34
If only my hands werent freaking caustic and ABS-melting. :(
Or simply living in Asia (well, non-north Asia), to be honest 😆 Know a guy who turned his ABS shiny within a month.
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 11 March 2018, 23:16:44
Post by: bball2 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 22:15:39
Now that I jumped on the Tokyo60 Rose Gold - I have to get this keyset for it!!
Post by: dire on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:11:16
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:28:32
Post by: mgsickler on Wed, 14 March 2018, 20:26:22
Olivia - any more news on the revised quotes and kit updates?
No updates. :(
I’ve sent several emails for updates. Hopefully we hear something soon.
Post by: th3a1ic4t on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:28:28
Post by: poolside on Sun, 18 March 2018, 18:03:35
Post by: siggerzz on Wed, 21 March 2018, 11:33:32
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 22 March 2018, 07:10:25
Looks amazing! Really interested in this, assuming I can afford the M60-A preorder tomorrow ;D
They make a great combo!! :-*
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab39b582b6a28cd3026210f/1521720165316/RAMA-M60-A-03.742.jpg)
Post by: olivia on Thu, 22 March 2018, 07:28:11
Looks amazing! Really interested in this, assuming I can afford the M60-A preorder tomorrow ;D
They make a great combo!! :-*Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab39b582b6a28cd3026210f/1521720165316/RAMA-M60-A-03.742.jpg)
I so agree!!
So, I've come up with a final draft layout that shouldn't change the price very much :eek: We get basic ISO in the base, center stemmed 6u, convex keys and lots of extra 40% staggered compatibility in the extras!! The more uncommon ISO compatibility that wasn't included in the base was removed from the extras. We're waiting on GMK renders but I've attached a KLE to show the changes. I'm super excited to launching real soon ;D
Base:
(https://i.imgur.com/XDwxBR9.png)
Extras:
(https://i.imgur.com/uefgYop.png)
Post by: mgsickler on Thu, 22 March 2018, 09:25:27
They make a great combo!! :-*Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab39b582b6a28cd3026210f/1521720165316/RAMA-M60-A-03.742.jpg)
I so agree!!
So, I've come up with a final draft layout that shouldn't change the price very much :eek: We get basic ISO in the base, center stemmed 6u, convex keys and lots of extra 40% staggered compatibility in the extras!! The more uncommon ISO compatibility that wasn't included in the base was removed from the extras. We're waiting on GMK renders but I've attached a KLE to show the changes. I'm super excited to launching real soon ;D
Base:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XDwxBR9.png)
Extras:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/uefgYop.png)
That M60-A combo is amazing!
Yea, the price shouldnt be changing at all for the kits! :) I cant wait to get these launched and going.
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 22 March 2018, 10:51:04
Incidentally, the below image of is of PerniciousPony's GMK Stormtrooper set on a Norbaforce case, and I have to say, having seen it in person, I don't think it's a very creamy (i.e., warm) white. I could be wrong, but I remember it being closer to a pure white. FWIW.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/Norbatouch_19_of_27_1024x1024.jpg?v=1511548526)
Post by: Haaaaaandrew on Thu, 22 March 2018, 15:56:50
Post by: foxfluff on Thu, 22 March 2018, 21:33:53
Post by: Baron on Thu, 22 March 2018, 21:50:51
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 23 March 2018, 00:17:57
this set makes me really wish i got the rose gold version of the tokyo60
m60 is up ;D
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 23 March 2018, 08:20:27
this set makes me really wish i got the rose gold version of the tokyo60
m60 is up ;D
Considering the ongoing problems with the m65...
Post by: xondat on Fri, 23 March 2018, 08:22:34
this set makes me really wish i got the rose gold version of the tokyo60
m60 is up ;D
Considering the ongoing problems with the m65...
Those were all because of jchan though, which is probably why Rama is doing everything. Same story with Exent actually.
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 23 March 2018, 08:24:54
this set makes me really wish i got the rose gold version of the tokyo60
m60 is up ;D
Considering the ongoing problems with the m65...
Those were all because of jchan though, which is probably why Rama is doing everything. Same story with Exent actually.
How were problems with the pcb because of jchan? There were similar problems with the software for a couple of his pads.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 23 March 2018, 08:45:58
this set makes me really wish i got the rose gold version of the tokyo60
m60 is up ;D
Considering the ongoing problems with the m65...
Hang on, I'm out of the loop. What ongoing problem does the M65 have? I thought everyone is happy with that board? Software or hardware?
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Fri, 23 March 2018, 11:23:26
this set makes me really wish i got the rose gold version of the tokyo60
m60 is up ;D
Considering the ongoing problems with the m65...
Hang on, I'm out of the loop. What ongoing problem does the M65 have? I thought everyone is happy with that board? Software or hardware?
Hardware
Lot of issues with static electricity it sounds like.
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 23 March 2018, 12:03:42
Hopefully the second run for restock on KeyClack will have better luck. Won't buy 'til onhand though at best. I feel for jchan and his personal issues, but that doesn't mean I'm going to throw money and hope for the best...
Post by: Midori on Fri, 23 March 2018, 13:28:31
this set makes me really wish i got the rose gold version of the tokyo60
m60 is up ;D
Considering the ongoing problems with the m65...
The thing is that the M60 and the M65 aren't going through the same people. M60 is run by Rama himself and not through Keyclack. I've never had any issues with Rama run buys.
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 23 March 2018, 14:36:45
this set makes me really wish i got the rose gold version of the tokyo60
m60 is up ;D
Considering the ongoing problems with the m65...
The thing is that the M60 and the M65 aren't going through the same people. M60 is run by Rama himself and not through Keyclack. I've never had any issues with Rama run buys.
Could be and we'll see. I've never seen him run a full buy of this magnitude before. And logistics are a ***** on something like this.
Post by: mgsickler on Fri, 23 March 2018, 22:37:53
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 23 March 2018, 23:54:39
Update coming soon! Be prepared for this GB to launch :)
Very ready (but not so much my wallet).
Post by: bball2 on Sun, 25 March 2018, 00:13:47
Update coming soon! Be prepared for this GB to launch :)
Nice :thumb:
Post by: olivia on Sun, 25 March 2018, 11:00:31
(https://i.imgur.com/5aQ52BJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XmLA9oY.jpg)
Thank you so much for your feedback and support, I truly appreciate it!!
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 25 March 2018, 11:12:07
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Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 25 March 2018, 11:37:50
Post by: xondat on Sun, 25 March 2018, 11:48:15
I assume it's way too late for this, but any chance of an R2 1.5u backspace for split backspace/HHKB style boards? That R2 backspace in the extras kit looks like a 2u, I guess for some 40% boards?
There is a delete key in the main set.
Post by: hervuli on Sun, 25 March 2018, 12:19:48
I assume it's way too late for this, but any chance of an R2 1.5u backspace for split backspace/HHKB style boards? That R2 backspace in the extras kit looks like a 2u, I guess for some 40% boards?
There is a delete key in the main set.
Yeah but as someone who likes to put Del in the top right of a split backspace layout, having an actual Backspace legend on that 1.5u R2 cap is nice. Delete right on top of Delete doesn't really look right :)
Post by: Allo on Sun, 25 March 2018, 13:31:42
I assume it's way too late for this, but any chance of an R2 1.5u backspace for split backspace/HHKB style boards? That R2 backspace in the extras kit looks like a 2u, I guess for some 40% boards?
There is a delete key in the main set.
Yeah but as someone who likes to put Del in the top right of a split backspace layout, having an actual Backspace legend on that 1.5u R2 cap is nice. Delete right on top of Delete doesn't really look right :)
It's not going to change at this point. You could always put a different R1 key there, for example the - from the numpad might work well for delete.
Post by: foxfluff on Sun, 25 March 2018, 15:55:25
I did see a R2 1.5U Delete key which honestly wouldn't bother me too much, but I was just curious if this set would/would not include the said Backspace.
Post by: hervuli on Sun, 25 March 2018, 17:04:20
Looking over the renders I'm seeing a handful with a R2 1.5U Backspaces but the kits themselves don't seem to have them?
I did see a R2 1.5U Delete key which honestly wouldn't bother me too much, but I was just curious if this set would/would not include the said Backspace.
Right! I knew I wasn't going crazy, I'd seen it in one of the renders :) Would have brought it up earlier if I hadn't seen it there.
It's interesting to me that the 1.5u backspace isn't standard across all the GMK sets trying to achieve max compatibility with common layouts. It only shows up in about half of recent sets, I feel like.
Post by: manzel on Mon, 26 March 2018, 02:24:28
Post by: jihadu on Mon, 26 March 2018, 06:18:12
Post by: hervuli on Mon, 26 March 2018, 08:18:48
I think this is just because "Backspace" is too long to fit in one line on an 1.5u key and with the line break it does not look that good. So going for "Delete" is the best option if you do not want to use this ugly cross in a box icon or the arrow, which just looks like a left arrow key.
I agree the icons aren't great (my preference is the left arrow looking icon), but "Backspace" does fit w/o a line break. GMK Serika has it, and I can't recall which older sets have it but I'm pretty sure Serika isn't the first.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 26 March 2018, 08:25:01
Post by: olivia on Mon, 26 March 2018, 09:27:32
If it is not too late to change it, you should consider adding a 2.75 U spacebar to the extras kit. That way you could cover splitspacebar layouts, since you already have a 2.25U in the kit
It is a bit late unfortunately :( There is a 2.75u right shift that could be used for split spacebar though, sorry!
Regarding the 1.5u Backspace key, I didn't want to do an icon only, or a version of backspace with without the icon or line break so Delete was the only remaining choice :D
Post by: mgsickler on Wed, 28 March 2018, 07:06:35
Post by: mudcakehoney on Wed, 28 March 2018, 07:07:15
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 28 March 2018, 07:09:47
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 28 March 2018, 07:46:51
Its happening today! :)
Have we got pricing as yet? (Specifically for the EU!)
Cheers
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Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 28 March 2018, 11:47:30
Its happening today! :)
Have we got pricing as yet? (Specifically for the EU!)
Cheers
Ello!
So pricing is 125,00 EUR including Taxes, PayPal Fees or Credit Card Fees. this is for the BASE KIT.
Extras Kit is still making a last minute decision.
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 28 March 2018, 16:37:33
Post by: mgsickler on Wed, 28 March 2018, 16:40:25
€125 is a great price for us in the EU - def on board for a couple of sets!!
Woot! I’m so excited to get this launched. Soon people. Soon.
Post by: olivia on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:20:08
Post by: itskuroi on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:25:31
Post by: xondat on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:35:45
GB is imminent!!!
I want... Too many buys atm :'( :'(
Post by: donut_sauce on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:38:51
Post by: ReverbSlush on Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:05:08
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:31:30
This Interest Check phase is over, and the thread is being locked.