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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: kekkon on Tue, 24 January 2017, 07:45:53

Title: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 24 January 2017, 07:45:53
GMK Dolch & x-CMYW Group Buy

Fill in the form if you have address changes (https://goo.gl/forms/MyOVSB6ys4jrfOYm2)

GB Timeline
1. GB Period: 24/Jan ~ 22/March
2. Payment to GMK: 22/March ~ 14/April
3. Production Stage: 10~12 weeks
4. Estimate shipping date from GMK: 21 JULY 2018←
5. GB Completion: SEPT/OCT 2017.

Latest Revision (http://imgur.com/a/RbuOi)

* CC space bars come with 6.25u & 7u
** TU2 and MG1 space bars come with 6u,6.25u & 7u

Current Progress :
Dolch Icon: 207/250
Dolch AddOn:  154/150
Dolch Color Kits: 173/150
x-CMYW: 141/150
CC Space bars: 228/250
TU2 Space bars: 92
MG1 Space bars: 49

Paid Progress :
Dolch Icon: 186/250
Dolch AddOn:  145/150
Dolch Color Kits: 158/150
x-CMYW: 130/150
CC Space bars: 205/250

Description:-
1. All kits come with Trays, while space bars set will be shrink wrap.
2. The base sets doesn't come with space bars, please remember to buy 1.  :thumb:
3. All the kits have a MOQ of 150. Hopefully we can do it.  :p
4. Color used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, CP, RO2, N5, DY, AE

Shipping
With Dolch Icon: Estimate $20~$30 depend on location.
Small kits : Start from $10.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 24 January 2017, 07:46:02
Please verify if your order information is correct : Check your entry here. (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 26 January 2017, 18:44:47
Approval bump

And as always, Caveat Emptor (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 26 January 2017, 18:56:44
What's the shipping cost of 2 or 3 base kits?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: romevi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 19:02:04
So we can order any time until March 10? That seems pretty clear, but just wanted to make sure as that's a long window to join!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: PoisonKing on Thu, 26 January 2017, 19:48:11
I'm a bit confused. The price for x-CMYW in the first post ($46.00) is different from the price in the form (MYR 157.50; $35.30). Enlighten me
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: gandroider on Thu, 26 January 2017, 19:49:58
When will you send us the Invoice for order and shipping? I'm quite flat-broke right now, at least until early February for my wallet to recharge.

Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: gnmar2723 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 20:00:04
Hype!!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: YH YOON on Thu, 26 January 2017, 22:16:59
Thank you !!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: VereChi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 22:37:47
99USD
This is a favorable price:)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: calavera on Thu, 26 January 2017, 23:18:50
Joined. Also put in the notes that my address will change at end of next month.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: asdflkj01 on Fri, 27 January 2017, 02:16:01
I just joined gb now!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 27 January 2017, 03:25:04
As a Dolch enthusiast, I don't like it

Apart from the x-CMYW, there is no innovation, there are no blanks, there is a heavy mix of text and icon's, there is no osx-love, even the renders lack effort

However, the pricing is decent
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: tameone on Fri, 27 January 2017, 08:16:18
As a Dolch enthusiast, I don't like it

Apart from the x-CMYW, there is no innovation, there are no blanks, there is a heavy mix of text and icon's, there is no osx-love, even the renders lack effort

However, the pricing is decent

Yes, other Gmk dolch offerings have come with some blanks, some mods with cyan legends, some dark and cyan alphas, etc .. but they were more expensive as a result from the base through all the mod packs. This is reasonably priced comparatively I think for what you get.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 27 January 2017, 10:12:52
I'll be joining at some point, when my wallet agrees  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 27 January 2017, 13:47:21
As a Dolch enthusiast, I don't like it

Apart from the x-CMYW, there is no innovation, there are no blanks, there is a heavy mix of text and icon's, there is no osx-love, even the renders lack effort

However, the pricing is decent

As a Dolch enthusiast, I don't like it

Apart from the x-CMYW, there is no innovation, there are no blanks, there is a heavy mix of text and icon's, there is no osx-love, even the renders lack effort

However, the pricing is decent

Yes, other Gmk dolch offerings have come with some blanks, some mods with cyan legends, some dark and cyan alphas, etc .. but they were more expensive as a result from the base through all the mod packs. This is reasonably priced comparatively I think for what you get.

This buy was originally intended as just add ons for people with Ivan's Dolch set. People that didn't have it requested a simple Dolch set as well. The x-CMYW was also added on at people's request. Have a look at the IC https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.0)

edit: mistype
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: Ail on Fri, 27 January 2017, 16:49:02
Oh man awesome this long buy window ensures I will get in!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: bkw1209 on Sat, 28 January 2017, 11:33:52
 I wrote the same Google form twice. I hope you will do only one ting.
please answer.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: poolside on Sun, 29 January 2017, 17:12:26
Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: airs on Tue, 31 January 2017, 12:38:11
Filled!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:32:04
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:32:34
I wrote the same Google form twice. I hope you will do only one ting.
please answer.

I'll delete the first response.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:36:26
Kekkon, what if we order more than one set, does the price for shipping go up a lot?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:53:58
Kekkon, what if we order more than one set, does the price for shipping go up a lot?

I am still waiting for the packing size from GMk actually, I remember I saw the packing size from another GMK GB but I forget which, if someone has the idea please enlighten me so I can do some calculation on this.

Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 31 January 2017, 22:26:13
Kekkon, what if we order more than one set, does the price for shipping go up a lot?

I am still waiting for the packing size from GMk actually, I remember I saw the packing size from another GMK GB but I forget which, if someone has the idea please enlighten me so I can do some calculation on this.

Thanks.
I measured the size of the keyset tray, I don't have any of the smaller trays to measure

Width x length x height
45cm x 20cm x 3cm

Stacking two trays brings the height to 4.5cm, I think adding another tray should just add 1.5 more cm
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 31 January 2017, 23:16:37
Kekkon, what if we order more than one set, does the price for shipping go up a lot?

I am still waiting for the packing size from GMk actually, I remember I saw the packing size from another GMK GB but I forget which, if someone has the idea please enlighten me so I can do some calculation on this.

Thanks.
I measured the size of the keyset tray, I don't have any of the smaller trays to measure

Width x length x height
45cm x 20cm x 3cm

Stacking two trays brings the height to 4.5cm, I think adding another tray should just add 1.5 more cm

If you don't want the bandalore, then we can use this size. But now GMK has a tray+bandalore as a standard, so this will be a different story.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 01 February 2017, 00:37:00
Kekkon, what if we order more than one set, does the price for shipping go up a lot?

I am still waiting for the packing size from GMk actually, I remember I saw the packing size from another GMK GB but I forget which, if someone has the idea please enlighten me so I can do some calculation on this.

Thanks.
I measured the size of the keyset tray, I don't have any of the smaller trays to measure

Width x length x height
45cm x 20cm x 3cm

Stacking two trays brings the height to 4.5cm, I think adding another tray should just add 1.5 more cm

If you don't want the bandalore, then we can use this size. But now GMK has a tray+bandalore as a standard, so this will be a different story.

The white sleeving around the tray? In that case, it should be easier to calculate the dimensions of more than one tray. Just add 3cm for every extra tray

(http://i.imgur.com/U0IpMhs.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 01 February 2017, 01:24:22
The white sleeving around the tray? In that case, it should be easier to calculate the dimensions of more than one tray. Just add 3cm for every extra tray

 :thumb:

I will do the calculation now.

** It appear that it is still ~1kg for 2 Tray, which is around $21 shipping to US. But we are thinking on adding some cardbox to protect the top and bottom of the tray, which I think will make the shipping cost become $25 due to the size increase.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: lee jeong woo on Wed, 01 February 2017, 11:15:51
join !

I don`t like side printing on the number keypad

Consider it.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 01 February 2017, 11:32:55
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?

(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: romevi on Wed, 01 February 2017, 14:17:25
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?

Show Image
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)


Yeah, it's from the Uniqey logo.

(https://uniqey.net/media/image/76/62/53/GMK-Uniqey-Logo_d-RGB.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: poolside on Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:23:28
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)

Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.

However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backslash? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backslash from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 February 2017, 04:00:19
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)

Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.

However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backslash? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backslash from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.

If so, do you have any suggestion?

** Updated the main post with new rendering.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 February 2017, 07:53:23
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?

Show Image
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)




I am not sure if we are permit to use them.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:02:11
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?

Show Image
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)




I am not sure if we are permit to use them.  :))

Perhaps we can ask?
At least then it will be a great addition instead of yet another two advertising caps for GMK and its UNIQEY.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: need on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:14:59
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?

Show Image
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)




I am not sure if we are permit to use them.  :))

Perhaps we can ask?
At least then it will be a great addition instead of yet another two advertising caps for GMK and its UNIQEY.

I agree with this man, what's the point of UNIQEY no one's going to use that ****

Use that money and put in a 2u key instead. It can be used on filco minila as a shift, and planck as a spacebar.

That's just a thought, it just seem like a very dumb decision to have 3 completely useless keys.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Acerk on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:20:51
Great choice of add ons. I don't need the base, and this gives me 1800 support + awesome colors.

Submitted.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:23:44
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?

Show Image
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)




I am not sure if we are permit to use them.  :))

Perhaps we can ask?
At least then it will be a great addition instead of yet another two advertising caps for GMK and its UNIQEY.

I agree with this man, what's the point of UNIQEY no one's going to use that ****

Use that money and put in a 2u key instead. It can be used on filco minila as a shift, and planck as a spacebar.

That's just a thought, it just seem like a very dumb decision to have 3 completely useless keys.

2u key (e.g. blank or icon shift) is indeed very practical and useful addition.

The redundant keys issue is also true on the GMK Dolch Color Kits for the two 'GMK' and 'UNIQEY' keys.
Please think about how to make good use of it.

Every GB of GMK Dolch will be popular. Please make it a useful and careful run, so that everyone will have good memory about you.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:35:46
Calm down everyone. :)

The GMK and "Q" keys are free so they didn't add up in the cost.  :D

I'll ask for the permission on using DT and GH forum keys.

We are now half way to the MOQ by adding up GH+Taobao Orders. (75 for base, 66 for AddOn, 57 for Color Kits & 55 for CMYW), I will start sending out the invoices on next week if the order >100 for base and AddOn. 
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:51:19
For your information, some inspirations from previous Group buys:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79535.0
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: gnmar2723 on Thu, 02 February 2017, 09:52:42
Calm down everyone. :)

The GMK and "Q" keys are free so they didn't add up in the cost.  :D

I'll ask for the permission on using DT and GH forum keys.

We are now half way to the MOQ by adding up GH+Taobao Orders. (75 for base, 66 for AddOn, 57 for Color Kits & 55 for CMYW), I will start sending out the invoices on next week if the order >100 for base and AddOn.

Will the group buy still be open till March or if we start hitting MOQ sooner will it close sooner?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 02 February 2017, 10:46:02
$20-$30 shipping is a bit excessive, otherwise I would consider this GB, great choices ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: tameone on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:35:05
Calm down everyone. :)

The GMK and "Q" keys are free so they didn't add up in the cost.  :D

I'll ask for the permission on using DT and GH forum keys.

We are now half way to the MOQ by adding up GH+Taobao Orders. (75 for base, 66 for AddOn, 57 for Color Kits & 55 for CMYW), I will start sending out the invoices on next week if the order >100 for base and AddOn.

Thanks for the update.  I definitely want to join, but only if the cyan color kit will hit MOQ, so please keep the numbers coming. 
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: megaforce93 on Thu, 02 February 2017, 15:54:22
@Kekkon what are the color codes for these?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 February 2017, 19:38:00
@Kekkon what are the color codes for these?

Color used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, CP, RO2, N5, DY, AE
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: dadoduk on Fri, 03 February 2017, 07:42:17
I am in!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: need on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:26:43
I know chances is slim, but is it there any way to add a 2u blanck? That would at least make this kit usable on a Planck and Minila.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:27:34
The Windows Diamond logo is doubleshot or pad printed?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:50:08
I know chances is slim, but is it there any way to add a 2u blanck? That would at least make this kit usable on a Planck and Minila.

I support this idea.
By the way, isn't Minila's space bar 3u?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: r5d on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:16:33
I am in! I already have a Dolch set, but can you really have too many?  ;D The AddOn kit is a great addition, I will get two of these!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: need on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:39:03
I know chances is slim, but is it there any way to add a 2u blanck? That would at least make this kit usable on a Planck and Minila.

I support this idea.
By the way, isn't Minila's space bar 3u?

It's the 2u shift key that minila is severely lacking, it's basically non existent...so I think a blanck one would make a good compromise. Planck users can also benefit from it.

enjoypbt makes 3u spacebars in cherry profile, so spacebar is not a problem. Shift key is.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: airs on Fri, 03 February 2017, 14:45:52
kekkon, can you add x-CMYW kit and MG1 Space bars to my order please? After adding those I should have all kits in my order, correct?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 03 February 2017, 18:10:10
The addon kit is exactly what I need for my Dolch :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: lolitslunchbox on Sat, 04 February 2017, 02:50:20
Thanks for doing this  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 04 February 2017, 07:55:08
No bar on the numpad 5?

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: gojira54 on Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:34:39
In for an add on pack =]
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:10:57
$20-$30 shipping is a bit excessive, otherwise I would consider this GB, great choices ;)

This is because of the trays.  :-X

Me and my friend as still discussing if we should allowed people to OPT for old zip-lock bag packing so the shipping cost will be lower, but then if there are scratches, they can't get replaced.

I know chances is slim, but is it there any way to add a 2u blanck? That would at least make this kit usable on a Planck and Minila.

I think this is a good suggestion, I will ask for a new quote together with Forum Logo Keys.

The Windows Diamond logo is doubleshot or pad printed?

Double Shot.

kekkon, can you add x-CMYW kit and MG1 Space bars to my order please? After adding those I should have all kits in my order, correct?

Yeap.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:20:46
Cyan(TU2) space bars is actually leftover from my previous GB(Dolch Reborn) and only have 50sets available.

We are currently  at around 60(GH+China), so those who order late will not get them, unless we reach 150sets for this GB(which is unlikely) then only we will place order with GMK again.


Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:29:55
If I filled out the form from the IC thread do I need to fill out the one from this thread to order, or am I good? Just wanna make sure..
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:31:27
If I filled out the form from the IC thread do I need to fill out the one from this thread to order, or am I good? Just wanna make sure..

You are good, it is the same form.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: need on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:33:36
Oh my god... so those Cyan space bars has been sold out already ?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Unforgivable on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:35:39
If I filled out the form from the IC thread do I need to fill out the one from this thread to order, or am I good? Just wanna make sure..

You are good, it is the same form.

Hey Kekkon, sent you a message concerning my missing keycaps, could you please update me?  :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: lolitslunchbox on Sat, 04 February 2017, 22:26:11
Cyan(TU2) space bars is actually leftover from my previous GB(Dolch Reborn) and only have 50sets available.

We are currently  at around 60(GH+China), so those who order late will not get them, unless we reach 150sets for this GB(which is unlikely) then only we will place order with GMK again.

Is there any way to find out if we are within the 50, if we already submitted the form.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Jumie on Sun, 05 February 2017, 00:01:53
Re-filled for changes.You'll only take the latest placement right?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ctrlX on Sun, 05 February 2017, 02:45:20
Maybe a dumb question... I filled out the form many days ago but haven't received a confirmation, am i still all set? Just want to make sure I don't miss yet another Dolch set. Thanks.

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 05 February 2017, 05:11:55
I have update the 2nd post with order information, please check your order information: goo.gl/uR8YMe (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ctrlX on Sun, 05 February 2017, 05:18:03
Awesome! :)

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: gnmar2723 on Sun, 05 February 2017, 10:46:04
Hey kekkon, I just want to clarify one thing. The base modifiers is N9 instead of CR because IvanDolch base modifiers were N9 right?

I was hoping to get a Dolch AddOn for my OG WoB set (for hhkb layout), but now I realize that the colors might conflict.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 05 February 2017, 11:25:27
I have update the 2nd post with order information, please check your order information: goo.gl/uR8YMe (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)

Hey Kekkon, sorry to bug you again but could you please reply to my message concerning the missing keycaps? You told me you'd get back to me on Saturday.  :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: poolside on Sun, 05 February 2017, 11:36:57
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)

Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.

However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backtick? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backtick from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.

If so, do you have any suggestion?

** Updated the main post with new rendering.

If one can use the ISO XT layout on a non-programmable off-the-shelf board, that's fine.

Otherwise, instead of the R3 tilde/backtick, I would suggest another pipe/backslash cap to support US-International. This layout actually has two of these keys. effectiveduck and Originative did this with their recent WoB keyset. GMK SoWaRe also has two pipe/backslash caps for ISO. Blanks could be an option too.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: soilheart on Sun, 05 February 2017, 13:09:18
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)

Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.

However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backtick? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backtick from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.

If so, do you have any suggestion?

** Updated the main post with new rendering.

If one can use the ISO XT layout on a non-programmable off-the-shelf board, that's fine.

Otherwise, instead of the R3 tilde/backtick, I would suggest another pipe/backslash cap to support US-International. This layout actually has two of these keys. effectiveduck and Originative did this with their recent WoB keyset. GMK SoWaRe also has two pipe/backslash caps for ISO. Blanks could be an option too.

Yeah, even though neither is correct for Swedish layout I'd prefer the R3 ISO Key to be \| as it's basically a replacement for the R2 \| on an ANSI keyboard. (I would prefer a <>| key for the R2, but I feel like there's more UK ISO users around than NORDE, so I won't argue for that).
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 05 February 2017, 14:05:18
1. Just spotted that the 2 'Fn' keys are unnecessarily repeated: in the base-kit and in the Add-on set.

2. Perhaps the two diamond keys on the Add-on set can be 1.5u to resemble better the meta keys of the HHKB.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Metakey.jpg)
Otherwise, one has to use the 1.5u Alt keys or 1.5u Ctrl keys for the HHKB layout.

I'm not an ISO layout user but out of curiosity have dug up some ISO layouts:

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ANSI (for comparison)
(http://i.imgur.com/kWuSr.png)

ISO UK
(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/uk-layout.svg)

ISO German
(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/german-layout.svg)

ISO Swedish
(http://hack.org/mc/images/KB_Sweden.png)

ISO Greek
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/KB_Greek.svg)

For reference:
UK international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8d/HONEYB_UK_SPH.png)

DE/DK/NO/SE international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/6/65/HONEYB_INTER_SPH.png)

HHKB support
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8f/HONEYB_HHKBMOD_BLUE.png)

A previous run of SkiDATA+
It actually has 65%/75% support and 1800 support. But it only has 1 HHKB control key, lacking the stepped HHKB control key option, and doesn't have the 1.5 meta keys for the HHKB layout either.
On the other hand, its ISO support was perhaps quite well examined and it has other goodies such as 1u backspace and a few LED key caps etc.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidatabase.png)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidataorangemod.png)

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: gojira54 on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:42:51
>1. Just spotted that the 2 'Fn' keys on the Add-on set are redundant.

The Fn keys are the only reason I'm buying the add on kit...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:54:09
>1. Just spotted that the 2 'Fn' keys on the Add-on set are redundant.

The Fn keys are the only reason I'm buying the add on kit...

I see, but they are present on the base kit as well.
Kekkon please think about replacing those 2 'Fn' keys in the base kit with something nice, as seen in the reference post (e.g. GB of GMK SkiDATA+) above.

Edit: But it doesn't make sense not to include those 2 'Fn' keys in the base-kit. It may be nice if those can be supplied as an additional kit for the few buyers. For those who are getting both the Base kit and the Add-on kit, it doesn't hurt to have 2 extra redundant 'Fn' keys (R3 1.25u and R4 1u), despite being a bit wasteful.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 06 February 2017, 12:03:49
1. Just spotted that the 2 'Fn' keys on the Add-on set are redundant.

2. Perhaps the two diamond keys on the Add-on set can be 1.5u to resemble better the meta keys of the HHKB.
Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Metakey.jpg)

Otherwise, one has to use the 1.5u Alt keys or 1.5u Ctrl keys for the HHKB layout.

I'm not an ISO layout user but out of curiosity have dug up some ISO layouts:

More
ANSI (for comparison)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kWuSr.png)


ISO UK
Show Image
(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/uk-layout.svg)


ISO German
Show Image
(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/german-layout.svg)


ISO Swedish
Show Image
(http://hack.org/mc/images/KB_Sweden.png)


ISO Greek
Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/KB_Greek.svg)


For reference:
UK international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)
Show Image
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8d/HONEYB_UK_SPH.png)


DE/DK/NO/SE international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)
Show Image
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/6/65/HONEYB_INTER_SPH.png)


HHKB support
Show Image
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8f/HONEYB_HHKBMOD_BLUE.png)


A previous run of SkiDATA+
Doesn't have 1800 support or 65%/75% support and only has 1 HHKB control key, lacking the stepped HHKB control key option, doesn't have the 1.5 meta keys for the HHKB layout either.
On the other hand, its ISO support was perhaps quite well examined.
Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidatabase.png)

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidataorangemod.png)



<> Near the left shift is the way to go
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 06 February 2017, 20:22:16
I guess I will use the 9009 ISO keys for this.  :))

(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)

I am still waiting for reply regarding the forum keys.

The MOQ now is sitting near 100 for Base, 80 for AddOn.

And for the invoicing, me and my friend found an alternative, which could bring the conversation rate down and in the result, a cheaper price. I will update this when we come out with a result, hopefully this will work.  ;D

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 06 February 2017, 20:23:45
Hey kekkon, I just want to clarify one thing. The base modifiers is N9 instead of CR because IvanDolch base modifiers were N9 right?

I was hoping to get a Dolch AddOn for my OG WoB set (for hhkb layout), but now I realize that the colors might conflict.

Dolch has always been N9, dark grey. It won't match OG WoB, if you want an hhkb layout you can consider the Wob Icon Mod by zenny, which has some ready stock. :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: gnmar2723 on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:03:48
Hey kekkon, I just want to clarify one thing. The base modifiers is N9 instead of CR because IvanDolch base modifiers were N9 right?

I was hoping to get a Dolch AddOn for my OG WoB set (for hhkb layout), but now I realize that the colors might conflict.

Dolch has always been N9, dark grey. It won't match OG WoB, if you want an hhkb layout you can consider the Wob Icon Mod by zenny, which has some ready stock. :)

I have the icon mod set, I just like the style of backspace on your kit way more than the one in the icon mods kit (It looks like the og backspace keys) My last hope is to try and get one from GMK Originative
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:42:07
I just found out that at $145 (spacebars included), the previous GroupBuy of GMK SKIDATA+ (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76521.0) (in October 2015) was able to manage to have a main set that supports 1800 layout, HHKB layout, and 65%/75%. The current setting of this run of GMK Dolch will require $141.3 (Base kit $99 + Add-on kit $37 + Spacebar $5.3) and this combined purchase, for first time Dolch buyers like me, will result in 2 repeated 'Fn' keys. And I am not sure of GMK's price increase since 2015, it seems that there can be a few more keys (see GMK SKIDATA+ GroupBuy), for example the R1 1u backspace key (which is also present in the Groupbuy of GMK HADapter kit at DT (https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/gmk-hadapter-hadditionals-kit-t14007.html#p314544)) and some LED key caps.
kekkon's inclusion of 1u modifiers of the bottom row, on the other hand, are some really nice additions.

kekkon has previous experience of GMK groupbuys, for example GMK UNIQEY-Blue (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84142.msg2243671#msg2243671), GMK DolchReborn (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85147.msg2279414#msg2279414), and the handling of GMK 9009. On the other hand, the previous runs of some GMK kits (such as GMK SKIDATA+) managed to have good layout support with a relatively small set. It is not easy to divide the Dolch set to please all people: 1) the first time Dolch set buyers, 2) those bought Ivan's run of GMK Dolch, and 3) those who has Dolch keyboards (this is only a smaller group comparatively).
Perhaps there can be some slight relocation of keys in the division of GMK Dolch set into the base kit and the Add-on kit.

More
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidatabase.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Mykii22 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 22:48:20
Great price! in for a set
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 08 February 2017, 06:32:56
I guess I will use the 9009 ISO keys for this.  :))

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)




those keys are perfect
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Applet on Wed, 08 February 2017, 10:02:51
I'm in for the addons, maybe the base as well, if I can afford it  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: autobot on Wed, 08 February 2017, 15:52:08
Placed my order! My first Geekhack Group Buy! ;D
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Thu, 09 February 2017, 23:12:28
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)

This should be standard. The XT ISO is the only actually compatible layout to use an ANSI set along with an ISO Enter. Well done.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Thu, 09 February 2017, 23:20:17
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)

This should be standard. The XT ISO is the only actually compatible layout to use an ANSI set along with an ISO Enter. Well done.

Edit: is the XT layout going to be finally kept? I just want to double check it before ordering.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 10 February 2017, 07:39:46
Hi everyone,

It seems the GH and DT keys can be used, and I have draft a quick kits for it. Any feed backs are appreaciated.

(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:02:00
Hi everyone,

It seems the GH and DT keys can be used, and I have draft a quick kits for it. Any feed backs are appreaciated.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)


not sure of what looks better, but isn't geekhack generally used lowercase?

geek
hack

GEEK
HACK

GH (big standard font)

GH (small font, like function key)

geek (top printed)
hack (front printed)

geekhack (in a 1.25 R4 key) nice one!

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: romevi on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:09:25
Hi everyone,

It seems the GH and DT keys can be used, and I have draft a quick kits for it. Any feed backs are appreaciated.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)


not sure of what looks better, but isn't geekhack generally used lowercase?

geek
hack

GEEK
HACK

GH (big standard font)

GH (small font, like function key)

geek (top printed)
hack (front printed)

geekhack (in a 1.25 R4 key) nice one!

Yeah, it's either all caps or all lower case.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:29:13
Examples of DT:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Kd7_15NGZsM/UD9NkkL0KlI/AAAAAAAAB7M/zaVNmY40h5Y/s220/deskthority.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/QsQkEAP.jpg)

More
(http://i.imgur.com/u7EIj.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:41:12
I guess I will use the 9009 ISO keys for this.  :))

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)


I am still waiting for reply regarding the forum keys.

The MOQ now is sitting near 100 for Base, 80 for AddOn.

And for the invoicing, me and my friend found an alternative, which could bring the conversation rate down and in the result, a cheaper price. I will update this when we come out with a result, hopefully this will work.  ;D

These keys belong to the German layout and their legends are redundant with ANSI's keys #3, ,< and .>, how they are suppose to be useful along with an ANSI layout? The Kekkon's proposed keys are compatible with an ANSI set as they provide the symbols to use an ISO Enter without loosing any legend on the keyboard.

The German layout requires many more keys to be completed, including the entire top number row, the symbol keys and the accented special letters, so how having two keys may do any good to an ANSI set? I know that they have been traditionally included in contemporary sets, but that does not make them any more useful.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 10 February 2017, 09:03:56
I agree with you ideus.
I don't know where poolside is coming from, but his concern with a redundant Tilde key on the layout.
However, when such a setting is used on a 60%, and the R1 Tilde is replaced by the Esc key, it is just perfect. It is, however, not yet the UK ISO layout, and definitely not the DE / SE / DK / NO etc layout. Instead, I think a good addition can be the R1 1u Backspace key.

Which a proper international set, it is not possible to please users of all other languages.

I guess I will use the 9009 ISO keys for this.  :))

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)


I am still waiting for reply regarding the forum keys.

The MOQ now is sitting near 100 for Base, 80 for AddOn.

And for the invoicing, me and my friend found an alternative, which could bring the conversation rate down and in the result, a cheaper price. I will update this when we come out with a result, hopefully this will work.  ;D

These keys belong to the German layout and their legends are redundant with ANSI's keys #3, ,< and .>, how they are suppose to be useful along with an ANSI layout? The Kekkon's proposed keys are compatible with an ANSI set as they provide the symbols to use an ISO Enter without loosing any legend on the keyboard.

The German layout requires many more keys to be completed, including the entire top number row, the symbol keys and the accented special letters, so how having two keys may do any good to an ANSI set? I know that they have been traditionally included in contemporary sets, but that does not make them any more useful.

Poolside, what do you think? The original arrangement fits the rest of the ANSI and the R1 Tilde can be replaced by the Esc key in a 60% setting.

Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)

Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.

However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backslash? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backslash from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 February 2017, 09:19:44
It is important to differentiate between features: First, the set offers ISO-Enter-Compatibility, second, the set could offer International-Support. They are different things.

ISO-Enter-Compatibility could be provided with the two proposed keys (R4 \| and R3 `~) providing flexibility for using an ISO Enter along with the set, at the minimum cost, with no redundant legends. A possible addition would be an R3 \| key, for those that want to use an standard 2.25u left shift and that will keep the R1 `~; along with an ISO Enter.

International-Support is a different animal and it does not seem that providing such support is within the scope of the set. In any case, it will require more keys and the cost of the main set would increase, or additional child sets should be added.

The UK layout is the closest one to ANSI and it could be provided with as few as six keys, or even with alternate side printed legeds (That I think are not aesthetic at all). Any other layout will require far more keys. The best option would be the recent proposed combined set by Wodam's.

Edit: I will provide a few pictures and some additional details tonight, for all to join the conversation on these two options. The OP is very willing to listen to us.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: need on Fri, 10 February 2017, 09:49:41
Examples of DT:

Show Image
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Kd7_15NGZsM/UD9NkkL0KlI/AAAAAAAAB7M/zaVNmY40h5Y/s220/deskthority.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QsQkEAP.jpg)


More
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/u7EIj.png)


This one please!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: poolside on Fri, 10 February 2017, 19:01:49
More
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)

This should be standard. The XT ISO is the only actually compatible layout to use an ANSI set along with an ISO Enter. Well done.

US-International on physical ANSI + ISO Enter might work too. I am using this right now.

How to use the XT ISO layout with a modern computer? (honest question)
I could not find XT ISO in the input settings of my Windows machine. I don't know what is possible with Unix-like boxes, though.

I agree with you ideus.
I don't know where poolside is coming from, but his concern with a redundant Tilde key on the layout.
However, when such a setting is used on a 60%, and the R1 Tilde is replaced by the Esc key, it is just perfect. It is, however, not yet the UK ISO layout, and definitely not the DE / SE / DK / NO etc layout. Instead, I think a good addition can be the R1 1u Backspace key.

Which a proper international set, it is not possible to please users of all other languages.

More
I guess I will use the 9009 ISO keys for this.  :))

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)


I am still waiting for reply regarding the forum keys.

The MOQ now is sitting near 100 for Base, 80 for AddOn.

And for the invoicing, me and my friend found an alternative, which could bring the conversation rate down and in the result, a cheaper price. I will update this when we come out with a result, hopefully this will work.  ;D

These keys belong to the German layout and their legends are redundant with ANSI's keys #3, ,< and .>, how they are suppose to be useful along with an ANSI layout? The Kekkon's proposed keys are compatible with an ANSI set as they provide the symbols to use an ISO Enter without loosing any legend on the keyboard.

The German layout requires many more keys to be completed, including the entire top number row, the symbol keys and the accented special letters, so how having two keys may do any good to an ANSI set? I know that they have been traditionally included in contemporary sets, but that does not make them any more useful.

Poolside, what do you think? The original arrangement fits the rest of the ANSI and the R1 Tilde can be replaced by the Esc key in a 60% setting.

More
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later.  :thumb:

Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.

The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)

Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.

However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backslash? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backslash from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.

I also agree about the German R4 <>| and R3 '# caps being redundant when using the ISO Enter + short Shift on top of ANSI.

On 60% boards, the XT ISO kit might be fine with no redundant legends. For bigger keyboards, however, you can keep with the usual R1 `~ from ANSI or use the R1 \| from the HHKB add-on instead. Whichever the choice, you get redundant `~ or \| legends. This, assuming you want to keep the alpha/mods color scheme separation consistent.

US-International on ANSI with ISO Enter + short Shift gets you two \| keycaps (R4 next to the short Shift and R3 next to Enter) as well, but these are both useful as the right char gets printed when you press them. With XT ISO on a TKL or full-size board, what is printed when you hit the leftmost R1 key of the numrow?

ISO-Enter-Compatibility could be provided with the two proposed keys (R4 \| and R3 `~) providing flexibility for using an ISO Enter along with the set, at the minimum cost, with no redundant legends.

Wouldn't the R1 `~ be redundant with the R3 `~?

The UK layout is the closest one to ANSI and it could be provided with as few as six keys, or even with alternate side printed legeds (That I think are not aesthetic at all).

Alternate "international" side prints are the reason why I did not join GMK SoWaRe and did not get the GMK Dolch Reborn base set.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: raigedeg on Sat, 11 February 2017, 07:16:10
fixing up my order, pls delete my previous one. thanks! addon looks cool!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 13 February 2017, 06:38:54
Hey everyone!

Was travelling last weekend, so am no able to reply to this thread.

The font/image that I will be using is as below, while the image I post up there is for color reference only...sorry for the confusion.

(http://i.imgur.com/QsQkEAP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DflI9kt.jpg)


Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: longtran1568 on Tue, 14 February 2017, 07:58:16
Hi kekkon,

Could you modify my form please? I only need the Color kit now, my original form was: Dolch Icon, CC spacebar and Color kit.

I filled the form at work and now that I am home I realize I just need the color kit. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 15 February 2017, 22:48:24
Hey everyone!

Was travelling last weekend, so am no able to reply to this thread.

The font/image that I will be using is as below, while the image I post up there is for color reference only...sorry for the confusion.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QsQkEAP.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/DflI9kt.jpg)


Great, look forward to these GH keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 16 February 2017, 02:31:48
I will update the order spreadsheet tonight together with keys changes at the sets.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 16 February 2017, 05:09:58
hi Kekkon, I PM-ed you about adding the (TU2) cyan spacebar.
Please help me to add that to my order if you haven't done it yet.
Thanks!

p.s. Please think about some alternative key caps offer for us who are getting both the base and the addon kit, so that we can have the extra 2 Fn keys replaced by some other keys. ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: smokemm on Thu, 16 February 2017, 14:32:54
Have invoices been sent out yet?

If they have I have not received mine yet.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: airs on Sat, 18 February 2017, 22:28:25
Looks like the orders document is wrong for mine - says 0 for x-CMYW and MG1 spacebars. I do want both of those though.

Can you fix please Kekkon?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 19 February 2017, 08:56:27
We are near to MOQ for base, sitting at 127 now. 1800 AddOn Kits is 97, which have some way to go.  :thumb:

On the invoice, as much as I hope to sent invoice out, my new Paypal is not ready yet and need some time to work it out. Please bear with me.  :-X

I will PM @ideus later to get the ISO keys update, then only I will publish all changes to the keys, sorry for the delay.


p.s. Please think about some alternative key caps offer for us who are getting both the base and the addon kit, so that we can have the extra 2 Fn keys replaced by some other keys. ;)

Done adding, I am considering to add some keys on 1800 AddON kits to make them more attractive, and hopefully will help them reach the MOQ.

Have invoices been sent out yet?

If they have I have not received mine yet.

Not yet.

Looks like the orders document is wrong for mine - says 0 for x-CMYW and MG1 spacebars. I do want both of those though.

Can you fix please Kekkon?

Fixed.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Sun, 19 February 2017, 15:50:24
Proposed ISO basic compatibility pack:

(http://i.imgur.com/MklK5mr.jpg)

Layout 1: It takes standard ANSI keys and only swaps the Enter for an ISO one and the backspace-pipe is relocated accordingly. It is compatible with full size keyboards that has the Esc key at the fuction row.

(http://i.imgur.com/WOujvdF.jpg)

Layout 2: With 1.25u left shift.

(http://i.imgur.com/GYkOpY1.jpg)

Layout 3: XT Layout. The Esc key replaces the standard ANSI position for the tilde. Appropiate for sixty percent keyboards.

(http://i.imgur.com/8T9AV6B.jpg)

An example of an UK international pack:

(http://i.imgur.com/wIz9WEf.png)



Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 20 February 2017, 07:33:59
...
p.s. Please think about some alternative key caps offer for us who are getting both the base and the addon kit, so that we can have the extra 2 Fn keys replaced by some other keys. ;)

Done adding, I am considering to add some keys on 1800 AddON kits to make them more attractive, and hopefully will help them reach the MOQ.

...

Thanks Kekkon!

I suggest including a 1u Backspace key at R1. This way, it is possible to have the Japanese ISO layout, like those in the HHKB JP and the Japanese RealForce keyboards.

(http://i.imgur.com/QltK1.jpg)

More
(http://i.imgur.com/u22nSPd.jpg)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa348/Crazy9000/P2040548.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 20 February 2017, 09:08:11
Thanks to both ideus and menuhin for the suggestion.  :thumb:

I have made a mockup for the changes, please help me check if there are any mistakes.

As for the Paypal, it will be ready within this week.

Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.

(http://i.imgur.com/4O99Fp4.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/djzS3M4.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZG4GwXb.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: codedisorg on Mon, 20 February 2017, 09:30:19
Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.

Is that supposed to be an R4 2u blank? If so, since it is the 2u shift on a Minila, any chance we could actually have a shift key instead of a blank like in Ivan's Odd Mods set?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 20 February 2017, 10:02:45
Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.

Is that supposed to be an R4 2u blank? If so, since it is the 2u shift on a Minila, any chance we could actually have a shift key instead of a blank like in Ivan's Odd Mods set?

Thanks for correcting... I think my memory serve me wrong.  :-X

I need to ask if 2u and 3u is available @GMK.  :))

(http://romly.com/blog_images/wasd_keyboards_1/Majestouch-MINILA-Air-Keycap-Sizes.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 20 February 2017, 10:51:59
Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.

Is that supposed to be an R4 2u blank? If so, since it is the 2u shift on a Minila, any chance we could actually have a shift key instead of a blank like in Ivan's Odd Mods set?

The suggestion was to have this R4 2u blank serves both in the Minila layout (as shift) and the Planck layout (and the spacebar).
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 20 February 2017, 11:40:49
Thanks to both ideus and menuhin for the suggestion.  :thumb:

I have made a mockup for the changes, please help me check if there are any mistakes.

As for the Paypal, it will be ready within this week.

Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4O99Fp4.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/djzS3M4.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZG4GwXb.png)

I'm an ISO user but I feel like the extra keys is just a waste of money as they are very specific and is catering to a few specific US-ANSI-based-layouts that are very rare.

But then again I don't really care about the legends personally, as they're going to be wrong for me anyway. I feel like the basic ISO UK keys (|\ and ~#) makes most sense though, as the ISO UK probably is the most common ISO layout which have the most of the alphas in common with the normal US-layout. Just my $0.02.

Other than that I approve of the additions.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Mon, 20 February 2017, 13:17:28
@soilheart:

The purpose of the suggested keys are to allow and ANSI set to get an ISO Enter with no redundant legends. That may be called ISO-Compatibility. It is very important to differentiate between ISO-Compatibility and International-Adapters. The first is basically an ISO Enter and left shift, plus a couple of keys to fill the two additional spots available when using them. The second option comes at the cost of many more keys. As you rightfully stated, the UK layout is the closest to ANSI requiring six more keys over the ANSI standard, plus the enter and the short shift. The proposed keys do not replace any of the European locale Languages legends, because that is not the scope of those two additional keys. I am not sure about the demand for International kits, though. A previous Dolch offering included the UK legends side printed, that I personally do not like, but they are also a possibility.

I write in English and Spanish and many years ago, I realized that I will not get an Spanish Cherry set ever, unless I find an old keyboard in a recycling center. But, I will never ask an OP to produce Spanish dedicated keys, because I know that those keys will have no use but probably for a couple of fellows that need them. Therefore, I had decided that US International is my best choice, with it, I can take advantage of the new upcoming MX sets or even OG Cherry ANSI sets. But that is just me. It would be great to have enough demand for the many European locale legends though, but that is just not the case.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 20 February 2017, 13:41:39
@ideus

As I said, the legends doesn't matter that much to me. My point is that I feel like a R3 ~# key will be seen as more useful by more users than a R3 ~`, and that blank R4 have even less use and just add cost to a kit I otherwise find perfect as a base kit.

I will not comment more on the ISO keys because I feel like the ISO key "issues" have been overblown here lately and I don't feel like the issue warrants more discussion. In the end I'll probably buy a kit, or probably two (as long as there is an ISO enter and a short left shift). I just wanted to mention that I felt that the community using ISO layouts could be better served with another (smaller) selection of keys, which should result in a lower price for everyone.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Leska on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:09:09
This might be a stupid question, but im kinda new to the whole keyboard thing. I got a whitefox with ISO layout, and im really interrested in this set for my whitefox. But will this set fit my whitefox ? If i buy Dolch Icon and Dolch AddOn or do i need the cc spacebar pack aswell ?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:22:42
This might be a stupid question, but im kinda new to the whole keyboard thing. I got a whitefox with ISO layout, and im really interrested in this set for my whitefox. But will this set fit my whitefox ? If i buy Dolch Icon and Dolch AddOn or do i need the cc spacebar pack aswell ?


You will need Dolch Icon, Spacebar and Dolch addon.

If you only take Dolch Icon you could also fill the entire keyboard, but your Del, Page up and Page Down key would not have the correct profile (meaning that if you look from the side their profile will not match with other keys in the same row)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:30:21
This might be a stupid question, but im kinda new to the whole keyboard thing. I got a whitefox with ISO layout, and im really interrested in this set for my whitefox. But will this set fit my whitefox ? If i buy Dolch Icon and Dolch AddOn or do i need the cc spacebar pack aswell ?


You will need Dolch Icon, Spacebar and Dolch addon.

If you only take Dolch Icon you could also fill the entire keyboard, but your Del, Page up and Page Down key would not have the correct profile (meaning that if you look from the side their profile will not match with other keys in the same row)

I was just about the reply the same thing, but I forgot at first that the ISO Whitefox have 1u modifiers on the right side, so the DolchAddon is basically essential (although I guess you could use a fn and the two winkeys if you want).
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Phenix on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:52:21
Doesnt the color kit miss a few keys? Like end/home/... ?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 20 February 2017, 15:48:24
@Kekkon

Please see below for some suggestions.

Base kit (presuming it is for Full size and TKL users):
- Remove
1.75u R4 Shift (this key is required by 3 major layouts in the Add-on kit)
1u R4 Fn (For HHKB)
1u R4 blank (see comments by ISO users, or replaced by one of the suggested NO/DE/SE/ES keys)
- Add
1.25u R4 Alt Gr
1u R1 Backspace (it is part of the ISO support)
NumLock LED cap
CapLock LED cap
CapLock stepped LED cap
ScrollLock LED cap

1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)
- Add
2x 1.5u R4 "diamond" modifiers (for HHKB)
1u R2 Tab (for Planck)
1u R3 Esc (for Planck)
1u R4 Shift (for Planck)
1u R4 Return (for Planck)
2u R4 blank (for Planck, can be in grey or dark grey)
1u R2 Backspace (for Planck; although there is a R1 backspace in base kit ISO support, Planck top row starts from R2)
[For Planck's "Raise" and "Lower", users may use the two 1u R4 "diamond" modifiers]
2u R4 Shift (for Minila)
[3u R4 blank/spacebar (for Minila, does GMK have a 3u space bar??)]
(Or you may also consider adding the suggested LED caps of the Base kit here to the Add-on kit instead.)

Color kit:
- Remove
1u R1 Insert
- Add
1u R1 NumLock
1u R4 Raise (for Planck)
1u R4 Lower (for Planck)
2u R4 blank (for Planck)
[2x 1u R4 Windows key or your "diamond" key]
[2u R1 Backspace]
[1.5u R2 Backspace]
[1u R1 Backspace]
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:13:58

1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)


So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?

it's impossible to remove anything at this point...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:18:53
What do you think about this key as a replacement for the blank one?

(http://i.imgur.com/YjG6CtZ.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:30:26
Do any of these come with an extra left shift key for fc660m compatibility?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:38:44
Do any of these come with an extra left shift key for fc660m compatibility?

The base set layout shows two 2.25u shift keys that cover your FC660M layout.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 21 February 2017, 00:33:27

1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)


So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?

it's impossible to remove anything at this point...

this
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 21 February 2017, 06:02:29

1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)


So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?

it's impossible to remove anything at this point...

this

Yes, this is important. Big changes would reset the whole thing.
Also I don't think UK legends should be preferred on the extra 'ISO' keys. Just as ideus said, get US International users happy with many keyboard layouts, it's the most reasonable way forward.

I really hope this Addon kit makes it. Those keys are sorely missing in the Dolch world.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Phenix on Tue, 21 February 2017, 06:29:27
Is there any chance at all to ONLY get the modifer keys? (I am ISO-DE so 60% will be laying around (+I am only after the mods, dont like the alpha color at all)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 February 2017, 07:39:22
Is there any chance at all to ONLY get the modifer keys? (I am ISO-DE so 60% will be laying around (+I am only after the mods, dont like the alpha color at all)

I may be interested in your alphas. PMed.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: shensmobile on Tue, 21 February 2017, 12:16:08
Hi Kekkon,

For my order I originally requested the base kit and the color kit, as well as spacebars.  Is it possible to remove my order for the color kit, and just go with the base kit and spacebars?  I PM'd you, but I don't think my order has been changed yet in the spreadsheet.  Let me know if that's doable!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 21 February 2017, 12:37:43

1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)


So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?

it's impossible to remove anything at this point...

this

Yes, this is important. Big changes would reset the whole thing.
Also I don't think UK legends should be preferred on the extra 'ISO' keys. Just as ideus said, get US International users happy with many keyboard layouts, it's the most reasonable way forward.

I really hope this Addon kit makes it. Those keys are sorely missing in the Dolch world.

Fair enough.
It is a bit late to make changes to how keys should be relocated into which kits, it should be in the IC process.
However, it is still the time to add some keys, if still possible, to make the Dolch set and its kits more holistic. And mine are just suggestions as Kekkon is looking for ways to add some keys to these kits to make them look more appealing, to up current order number to meet the MOQ.

I hope most if not all of the kits can pass MOQ.
The Dolch caps has never got good layout supports for the community.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: hyonglaw on Wed, 22 February 2017, 04:44:04
Hello I'd joined this GB right after it started, but I want to change my options now. Can I just cancel the previous order and make my orders again?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 22 February 2017, 07:36:48
Hello I'd joined this GB right after it started, but I want to change my options now. Can I just cancel the previous order and make my orders again?

try to PM kekkon..
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: IAmPyhrra on Wed, 22 February 2017, 16:36:19
Just submitted mine for the CMYW! Cant wait to get them.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 22 February 2017, 22:53:51
Hello I'd joined this GB right after it started, but I want to change my options now. Can I just cancel the previous order and make my orders again?

Submit a new order, and I will cancel the old one.

I am still working on the new keys, no keys will be removed as it is already too late.

Planck keys are also too much which will cost a bomb to the add on kits, and will become a burden for most of us.

Probably we can make a small kits just for planck at some point.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 23 February 2017, 03:11:41

1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)


So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?

it's impossible to remove anything at this point...

Do you just need the Fn key?
PM-ing
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 23 February 2017, 07:14:58
I have some emergency issues to deal with and will not be able to update this GB until Sunday.

The main post had been updated with latest order no, and the new Paypal is also ready for use, I expect to start invoicing on next Monday.

Hopefully by Sunday I will have time to update the keys.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 26 February 2017, 07:15:29
Submitted.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 26 February 2017, 20:18:13
Quick update on 2u & 3u spacebar, there will be 2u spacebar in the future(about 2months~3months), but not 3u.

So I think the best is we will get a dedicated GB for planck user near future to provide the keys. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 27 February 2017, 08:41:43
Update on kits, please leave down your feed backs.

Changes on 3rd revision compared with 1st revision:-

Expected Price Increased:
1. Dolch Icon -> $2.40
2. Dolch Add-On  -> $3.50
3. Dolch Color Kits -> $4.00

** Please note that these are just my assumption, I will get the exact amount after I get the latest quote from GMK.

(http://i.imgur.com/JfYCcae.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/8dkYXCf.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 27 February 2017, 08:45:03
On Forum kits, it will be around $11. Initially I have been wanted to fit them into the Icon and Color kits respectively, but not everyone buy them so I think it is best for us to keep them separate.

I will make a separate form for it.  :))

(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 09:03:50
The expanded coverage compensates for the price increments. Even though, the prices are still very competitive, mostly considering that this set will be a very special one, with a relatively low units count produced, that will make it even more valuable in the future if someone is in need to resell it.

With the current surge on split space bar board kits you would like to consider offering some split space bars options in the space bar sets. It may attract some additional orders and it will make this the very first Dolch set with split space bars coverage.

I suggest you to change the thread name to [GB] GMK Icon Classic Dolch, x-CMYK & Split Space Bar Add-ons. Or to  [GB] GMK Icon Classic Dolch & x-CMYK Add-on, that last, if the split space bars are not included. The Classic term to differentiate it from the other low contrast sets on offer now.

Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.

Please compare this two, it seems to me that the first is more elegant, simple and graphically sound than the second.

(http://i.imgur.com/RTEA2Zy.jpg)

Down arrow.

(http://i.imgur.com/CuNxQHI.jpg)

Hand bag.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 27 February 2017, 11:24:53
Kudos to Kekkon for the additions, it keeps on improving.
This GB is going to increase a lot the possibility of the Dolch set.  :thumb:

I also second the suggestion of ideus about split space bar addition to boost sales, but I am not sure if it is possible to have the split space bars in real space bar profile or are just blanks in R4 profile.
For your information, two current IC/GBs (GMK HADapter kit Round 2 & GMK Yuri) have included a split space bar kit, and this is how they look like:
(http://i.imgur.com/mx9Fijm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/OC8HKy2.png)

For the Forum kit.
If I remember correctly, in the original request of the addition of Forum keys, we were not asking to add a forum kit but to have the forum keys replace the GMK and Q keys that exist in the current templates of both the base kit and the color kit.
I am sure 99.99% of the users will not use the GMK and Q keys - even if GMK gives us free of charge, and it's not like we don't like GMK as a company. It is okay to let us know if these two keys are in fact sponsored by GMK.
Please see if the two forum keys can replace the two GMK and Q keys in the base kit and the color kit.
We will all thank you for this.  ;)

1.5u R4 Diamond keys for HHKB.
The diamond icons are the meta-key icons of HHKB and Sun MicroSystem keyboards, and addition of this design is feasible possibly in a lower cost because GMK has recently acquired this design also, i.e. it exists already as an R4 key:

More
(http://imgur.com/HNbqLUk.jpg)

There are quite some HHKB (or the layout) followings, and this addition will make the Add-on kit more complete and special for the HHKB users out there.



P.s. Ah.... can there be LED caps? How much will the inclusion of say 2 to 3 LED caps increase the cost of a kit?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 27 February 2017, 12:02:29
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.

I actually prefer the handbag over the down arrow... can't really say why though, I think I like the distinction from the shift key I guess...

(Although I totally can see what you mean with the simplicity of the down-arrow).

I am sure 99.99% of the users will not use the GMK and Q keys - even if GMK gives us free of charge, and it's not like we don't like GMK as a company. It is okay to let us know if these two keys are in fact sponsored by GMK.
The GMK and "Q" keys are free so they didn't add up in the cost.  :D

I doubt GMK would replace those keys for free, as they basically included as "advertising". (And to be honest, I can actually see me using them, at least the Q key, I think it looks rather cool, but I understand that I'm probably in the minority.)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 12:06:14
Somebody suggested using down arrow as Caps lock.

I disagree, it's ugly. I prefer symbol like the lock or as it is now.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 12:22:25
While I cannot understand why someone does think that the down arrow is ugly as a caps lock icon, I fully respect the opinion. I support the right that the people, who have ordered the set as published, have to define if they want to keep it as advertised, originally.  (I can use both, but I prefer the down arrow, it is a simple matter of taste).

Edit: I will start using my hand bag's keys on all my boards to get accustomed to that "ugly" icon. Just in case.  :p
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 27 February 2017, 13:07:14
While I cannot understand why someone does think that the down arrow is ugly as a caps lock icon, I fully respect the opinion. I support the right that the people, who have ordered the set as published, have to define if they want to keep it as advertised, originally.  (I can use both, but I prefer the down arrow, it is a simple matter of taste).

Edit: I will start using my hand bag's keys on all my boards to get accustomed to that "ugly" icon. Just in case.  :p


I understand where ideus' taste is coming from - the original Dolch PAC in ISO version:
(http://i.imgur.com/eAY8J.jpg)

ideus has a classic taste.  :cool:
And I believe Kekkon's current design is also based on this icon-based ISO version of Dolch PAC.

While the handbag like Caps Lock icon looks cute to me and I am fine with it, it does not exist on the original ANSI version of Dolch either:
(http://i.imgur.com/QedS6.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 27 February 2017, 13:16:01
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.

sorry @ideus, but that's completely false!

The only layout using "down arrow" is the German one, all the remaining EU ISO layouts use the hangbag (which I personally prefer as well) or the full text capslock.
I've already clarified this doubt in the last @Wodan GB: https://deskthority.net/help-f53/hadapter-kit-t13731-30.html#p307058
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 27 February 2017, 13:40:01
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.

sorry @ideus, but that's completely false!

The only layout using "down arrow" is the German one, all the remaining EU ISO layouts use the hangbag (which I personally prefer as well) or the full text capslock.
I've already clarified this doubt in the last @Wodan GB: https://deskthority.net/help-f53/hadapter-kit-t13731-30.html#p307058

Okay, I looked up another photo of Dolch PAC, and it is a non-German ISO version - a handbag style Caps Lock icon:
(http://s21.postimg.org/s2fgf6jgn/image.jpg)

So I believe the caps of ANSI version of Dolch PAC are more text-based, and those of the ISO versions are more icon-based.

Don't know and don't think ideus is German, but his taste seems to be.
After all both GMK and Cherry are from Germany. ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 27 February 2017, 13:42:26
yes, that photo is mine lol (and it's the one and only ISO italian Dolch PAC spotted so far!)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:04:47
Well I have been a fan of GMK and all of my sets use the shopping bag as Caps lock, so I am a little biased  :p

Furthermore, the down arrow for Caps lock is present on so many cheap Chinese keycaps that whenever I see it i tend to think it's cheap and ugly  :))  :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:30:18
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.

sorry @ideus, but that's completely false!

The only layout using "down arrow" is the German one, all the remaining EU ISO layouts use the hangbag (which I personally prefer as well) or the full text capslock.
I've already clarified this doubt in the last @Wodan GB: https://deskthority.net/help-f53/hadapter-kit-t13731-30.html#p307058 (https://deskthority.net/help-f53/hadapter-kit-t13731-30.html#p307058)

Yeah, I agree, my bad. I made some research AFTER the comment, I came to the same conclusion: The arrow is a German thing, mainly.

I support the group decision for a hand bag. I really do not find it ugly, or anything close. Being an icon it goes well with the theme.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Phenix on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:39:54
I support the arrow as well..
IMHO it just looka nicer, cleaner.
And it plays well with the shift-arrow
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:44:40
Full icon modifiers, maybe?

(http://i.imgur.com/paTTcKE.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:51:11
Full icon modifiers, maybe?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/paTTcKE.png)



Personally not a fan... :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 15:21:22
Full icon modifiers, maybe?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/paTTcKE.png)



Personally not a fan... :blank:

But, this set has icon already??
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 16:22:43
Full icon modifiers, maybe?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/paTTcKE.png)



Personally not a fan... :blank:

But, this set has icon already??


I mean not 100% all icon mods :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: poolside on Mon, 27 February 2017, 17:34:30
Update on kits, please leave down your feed backs.

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Changes on 3rd revision compared with 1st revision:-
  • Dolch Icon
    • Added 2 Iso Keys
    • Added 1.25u Alt Gr
  • Dolch Add-On Kits
    • Added 1u Backspace
    • Added 2u Shift
    • Added 1.75u Control
    • Added 2u Blank
  • Dolch Color Kits
    • Added Backspace(s) 1u, 1.5u, 2u
    • Added NumLock

Expected Price Increased:
1. Dolch Icon -> $2.40
2. Dolch Add-On  -> $3.50
3. Dolch Color Kits -> $4.00

** Please note that these are just my assumption, I will get the exact amount after I get the latest quote from GMK.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JfYCcae.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gTUMUEd.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8dkYXCf.png)



Nice additions.
A few more ISO compatibility options. Thanks for including the keycaps suggested by ideus! :thumb: I must not forget to place my order.

Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.

Please compare this two, it seems to me that the first is more elegant, simple and graphically sound than the second.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RTEA2Zy.jpg)


Down arrow.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/CuNxQHI.jpg)


Hand bag.

I like the two options. The down arrow being more uncommon has its charm. I have not developed a preference for one over the other yet, I guess.

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Kudos to Kekkon for the additions, it keeps on improving.
This GB is going to increase a lot the possibility of the Dolch set.  :thumb:

I also second the suggestion of ideus about split space bar addition to boost sales, but I am not sure if it is possible to have the split space bars in real space bar profile or are just blanks in R4 profile.
For your information, two current IC/GBs (GMK HADapter kit Round 2 & GMK Yuri) have included a split space bar kit, and this is how they look like:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mx9Fijm.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OC8HKy2.png)


For the Forum kit.
If I remember correctly, in the original request of the addition of Forum keys, we were not asking to add a forum kit but to have the forum keys replace the GMK and Q keys that exist in the current templates of both the base kit and the color kit.
I am sure 99.99% of the users will not use the GMK and Q keys - even if GMK gives us free of charge, and it's not like we don't like GMK as a company. It is okay to let us know if these two keys are in fact sponsored by GMK.
Please see if the two forum keys can replace the two GMK and Q keys in the base kit and the color kit.
We will all thank you for this.  ;)

1.5u R4 Diamond keys for HHKB.
The diamond icons are the meta-key icons of HHKB and Sun MicroSystem keyboards, and addition of this design is feasible possibly in a lower cost because GMK has recently acquired this design also, i.e. it exists already as an R4 key:

More
Show Image
(http://imgur.com/HNbqLUk.jpg)


There are quite some HHKB (or the layout) followings, and this addition will make the Add-on kit more complete and special for the HHKB users out there.

P.s. Ah.... can there be LED caps? How much will the inclusion of say 2 to 3 LED caps increase the cost of a kit?

Some of these diamonds keycaps would be great. I think they would be a pretty replacement to those, which look like Windows 8/10 keycaps too much:

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 01 March 2017, 02:09:26
Thanks for all the input, I have made a final adjustment to the Add-On Kits. These will be finalize and I will get quote from GMK, expect invoicing to begin soon.  :thumb:

As for the split spacebar kits, I think we should wait for the new GMK mold to come out and see what they are going to offer, because those are real "spacebars" profile, unlike current one which is in "shift" shape.

(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ricyuyc on Wed, 01 March 2017, 04:23:17
Is it possible to keep both the 1.5u boxed Del & the simple arrow Backspace, at the add-on kit?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Wed, 01 March 2017, 05:42:35
Thanks for all the input, I have made a final adjustment to the Add-On Kits. These will be finalize and I will get quote from GMK, expect invoicing to begin soon.  :thumb:

As for the split spacebar kits, I think we should wait for the new GMK mold to come out and see what they are going to offer, because those are real "spacebars" profile, unlike current one which is in "shift" shape.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)


I concur that actual space bars are required not blank shift keys.

Is the GB original dead line the same? Current OP's date is March 10.
What would be the payment period? Current OP's date is March 10 - 24.

Are original dates still firm? If not, please update the OP accordingly.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 01 March 2017, 06:01:54
 :p :)) :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: mniels on Wed, 01 March 2017, 06:15:16
Is there a spreadsheet anywhere to doublecheck our orders.  I apologize in advance if I am blind and missed the link....   :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: soilheart on Wed, 01 March 2017, 07:07:23
Is there a spreadsheet anywhere to doublecheck our orders.  I apologize in advance if I am blind and missed the link....   :eek:

Well, the first "reply" seems to be what you're after =P

Please verify if your order information is correct : Check your entry here. (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: mniels on Wed, 01 March 2017, 07:08:24
Yep. Definitely blind.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: poolside on Wed, 01 March 2017, 17:19:52
Thanks for all the input, I have made a final adjustment to the Add-On Kits. These will be finalize and I will get quote from GMK, expect invoicing to begin soon.  :thumb:

As for the split spacebar kits, I think we should wait for the new GMK mold to come out and see what they are going to offer, because those are real "spacebars" profile, unlike current one which is in "shift" shape.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)


Shiny diamonds! I hope the add-on and color kits will both reach MOQ.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 02 March 2017, 03:05:23
On Forum kits, it will be around $11. Initially I have been wanted to fit them into the Icon and Color kits respectively, but not everyone buy them so I think it is best for us to keep them separate.

I will make a separate form for it.  :))

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)


Where is the order form for the forum keycaps?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 March 2017, 21:02:12
I have yet to received latest quote, hopefully I can get it by tonight and start invoicing over the weekend.

I have also updated the latest count, it seems the base has already made it, while other are not far behind, hopefully they will be 80% paid invoices.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: romevi on Fri, 03 March 2017, 13:00:26
Definitely plan on ordering the child kits; just haven't done so yet.  :p
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 03 March 2017, 14:26:50
@kekkon
If I want to change my order or add something to the order, do I post it here or can I just PM you?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Sat, 04 March 2017, 10:36:26
Is there a spreadsheet anywhere to doublecheck our orders.  I apologize in advance if I am blind and missed the link....   :o

Well, the first "reply" seems to be what you're after =P

Please verify if your order information is correct : Check your entry here. (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)

Is the table updated? It shows 102 orders for the base set, only.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: codedisorg on Sat, 04 March 2017, 12:35:39
@kekkon
If I want to change my order or add something to the order, do I post it here or can I just PM you?

Same question here as well.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: longtran1568 on Sat, 04 March 2017, 12:41:58
@kekkon
If I want to change my order or add something to the order, do I post it here or can I just PM you?

Same question here as well.


I PM him about modifying my order too, and every thing turned out fine, so you guys could just drop him a message :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: mindxthinker on Sun, 05 March 2017, 11:39:39
 Is base font color white? or bluish white?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: lunr on Sun, 05 March 2017, 19:45:47
wish I can just buy the icon mods but i can't go wrong with more dolch.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 05 March 2017, 22:10:39
I have done update all orders changes/cancellation from PM/Email, please check the response sheet. For those who want to make changes, please PM me and I will update it accordingly.

I am still waiting for GMK on the latest quotation, hope to get it soon. Since the invoicing only started this week, the GB closing date will be extend 1 or 2 more weeks depend on the payments.

Regarding the MOQ, it is actually combination on both GH and Taobao orders.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: gojira54 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 01:36:43
I have PMd you requesting to add 1x CMYW pack but haven't heard back? Would like to add it pls =]
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 06 March 2017, 02:28:27
I have PMd you requesting to add 1x CMYW pack but haven't heard back? Would like to add it pls =]

check the spreadsheet

kekkon didnt reply, but he updated the spreadsheet with my order
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 06 March 2017, 03:31:37
No bar on the numpad 5?

Can't we replace the uniqey Q with the 5 with an homing bar?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: romevi on Mon, 06 March 2017, 10:30:53
No bar on the numpad 5?

Can't we replace the uniqey Q with the 5 with an homing bar?

Actually, I think it would be best to add more GMK "Q" logos in different sizes. It wouldn't add much and will let people know the set is made with modern layouts in mind, since the "Q" layout is a modern logo.
A modern logo for a modern design.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 06 March 2017, 11:35:57
Actually, I think it would be best to add more GMK "Q" logos in different sizes.
I wouldn't mind winkeys with the Q logo, granted that they are 1u R5 of course.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 06 March 2017, 15:08:10
Just joined for a full kit! Excited for the turnout of this revival of GMK Dolch.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: tameone on Mon, 06 March 2017, 23:54:43
how close is the color kit to MOQ?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 07 March 2017, 05:03:33
No bar on the numpad 5?

Can't we replace the uniqey Q with the 5 with an homing bar?

Actually, I think it would be best to add more GMK "Q" logos in different sizes. It wouldn't add much and will let people know the set is made with modern layouts in mind, since the "Q" layout is a modern logo.
A modern logo for a modern design.

You can have how many Qs you want, but they need to have an homing bar.
Modern homing bars for a modern design, that bars ancient dots and scoops on new homing concepts.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 07 March 2017, 08:57:11
Let me get the latest quote from GMK before deciding to add homing numpad 5, I personally feel dot is good enough.  :))

I have actually done the "Q" in R4 before this, but it is better in R1 as Esc  :p

(http://i.imgur.com/7buXmbG.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:01:00
how close is the color kit to MOQ?

I would say it was very close, let's see what is the outcome when the invoicing begin. :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: mindxthinker on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:15:33
kekkon did my order went through??
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: romevi on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:19:45
No bar on the numpad 5?

Can't we replace the uniqey Q with the 5 with an homing bar?

Actually, I think it would be best to add more GMK "Q" logos in different sizes. It wouldn't add much and will let people know the set is made with modern layouts in mind, since the "Q" layout is a modern logo.
A modern logo for a modern design.

You can have how many Qs you want, but they need to have an homing bar.
Modern homing bars for a modern design, that bars ancient dots and scoops on new homing concepts.

You're right. :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: need on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:40:33
Let's put in a cherry logo to replace one of the QQQQQ
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: ideus on Tue, 07 March 2017, 12:43:20
This set is really way too special, to let it to pass. Ordered.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch, Dolch AddOn & x-CMYW
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 07 March 2017, 20:00:19
Let's put in a cherry logo to replace one of the QQQQQ

We can't use the new GMK Cherry Logo anymore, other than one specific company.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Check your orders at Reply#1)
Post by: YH YOON on Tue, 07 March 2017, 20:22:17
Checked it. !!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Check your orders at Reply#1)
Post by: romevi on Tue, 07 March 2017, 20:39:25
Gonna place an order for Add-on and Color this week. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Check your orders at Reply#1)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 08 March 2017, 08:21:11
I have got the latest price, will send out invoice batch by batch this week. :p

A separate form had been made for the Forum Kits, it will be billed separately.  :p

https://goo.gl/forms/NdetA8YfIiWjOqWl2 (https://goo.gl/forms/NdetA8YfIiWjOqWl2)

The front page and order has also been updated with latest price change, and currency change, which result in price reducing/small price increase for all the sets.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: need on Wed, 08 March 2017, 08:54:12
Wait, so is this the add-on kit? I'd be surprised if this costs $40.

(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: diiiP on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:07:52
Wait, so is this the add-on kit? I'd be surprised if this costs $40.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)


First post and order form shows this:
(http://i.imgur.com/Tkj90fY.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:11:02
Wait, so is this the add-on kit? I'd be surprised if this costs $40.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)


Yeap, this is the one. Do you mean it is too expensive?  :-X

...

This is the old 3D rendering, newer one will be updated after this.


Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Check your orders at Reply#1)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:15:46
I have got the latest price, will send out invoice batch by batch this week. :p

A separate form had been made for the Forum Kits, it will be billed separately.  :p

https://goo.gl/forms/NdetA8YfIiWjOqWl2 (https://goo.gl/forms/NdetA8YfIiWjOqWl2)

The front page and order has also been updated with latest price change, and currency change, which result in price reducing/small price increase for all the sets.  :thumb:

Id like to get my invoice as soon as possible. I know that I ordered late, though, exchanges rates fluctuate a lot where I live.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: need on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:31:00
Wait, so is this the add-on kit? I'd be surprised if this costs $40.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)


Yeap, this is the one. Do you mean it is too expensive?  :-X



Sorry I was just surprised there's no price increase after having the added support for 68, 75%, Minila. It's still $40 right?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:34:41
Sorry I was just surprised there's no price increase after having the added support for 68, 75%, Minila. It's still $40 right?

There are actually $2~$3 price increase.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: t0rk on Wed, 08 March 2017, 10:40:46
Not looking great for anything but the Base and Spacebar kits hitting MOQ.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:09:45
Not having a paypal stings, that 1.75 Stepped Ctrl is a must have
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:11:29
Not having a paypal stings, that 1.75 Stepped Ctrl is a must have

+1

That key is one of the reasons I am buying this.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: -musubi on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:19:50
Will shipping costs be combined for multiple kits (base + others)?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: fublamchu on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:50:39
Is there an estimate as to what shipping would be for South Korea?


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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 09 March 2017, 07:17:35
I have s
Is there an estimate as to what shipping would be for South Korea?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Around $25 for base only using HK Post IINM.

I have started to send out the invoice, currently reach #34 and seems Paypal won't let me send anymore by constantly give me error, I will try again later.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 09 March 2017, 07:18:44
Paid =]

Gotta say I was somewhat alarmed when I received an invoice for around $1700 haha
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 09 March 2017, 07:21:57
Paid =]

Gotta say I was somewhat alarmed when I received an invoice for around $1700 haha

I also shocked when I saw the "$" symbol, which is actually HKD, no idea why Paypal use "$" for it.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: hoanglh94 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 21:04:49
Is it possible for me to pay it next week? I was a bit concerned by the due date as I haven't checked my email for a while ;(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: myjoey88 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 21:08:19
I have not received my PayPal payment today. Request you to check.
Please mail to school@tncp.co.kr.  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: calavera on Thu, 09 March 2017, 21:21:44
When is payment due?

EDIT: I would like to make change to my order if possible. Please let me know how
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: mindxthinker on Thu, 09 March 2017, 22:13:17
I'm also waiting for the invoice~
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 09 March 2017, 23:53:18
It seems Paypal won't let me send too many invoices out in a short period, I have just send the 60th invoices out. Will try again tonight.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: gojira54 on Fri, 10 March 2017, 00:35:43
Paid up - thanks for running this =]
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: dadoduk on Fri, 10 March 2017, 02:14:20
I paid!!


Thank your GB!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 10 March 2017, 06:29:36
I wish I can send more invoices today, but Paypal error are restricting me...I have send email to Paypal for help, hopefully we can settle this in a short period.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: Prelim on Fri, 10 March 2017, 07:26:22
just noticed an error on GMK render... on the 1.25u mods there should be and Alt + Altgr (the Alt is repeated), as it's on the 1.5u ones bellow ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/IRLkXTV.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 March 2017, 07:40:12
just noticed an error on GMK render... on the 1.25u mods there should be and Alt + Altgr (the Alt is repeated), as it's on the 1.5u ones bellow ;)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/IRLkXTV.jpg)


Good catch, but it may be intentional. The 1.25 mods may be targeted for US users, while the 1.5 may be designed for the rest of us. I really use the Alt Gr in all my setups, with either mod sizes, because I use the US International layout, to write in non-English languages, but it may be just intentional. If not, I suggest to include the AltGr instead of the Alt, but I am sure many US users may raise their voices against it. I really do not see it as a big deal, the Alt key is perfectly fine, we US-Int users always know that right Alt is actually AltGr.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: Prelim on Fri, 10 March 2017, 07:42:38
that doesn't make sense, there will be many US users using the 1.5u mods as well. AltGr on the right is the only way to go! ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 March 2017, 08:12:29
that doesn't make sense, there will be many US users using the 1.5u mods as well. AltGr on the right is the only way to go! ;)

Both Alt Gr sizes are included in the base set, just double check the last version of the set's layout. Everybody is happy.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: airs on Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:52:17
Did we hit MoQ for all kits? My invoice has them all on there.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: t0rk on Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:55:09
Did we hit MoQ for all kits? My invoice has them all on there.

Which kits did you order?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: airs on Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:55:56
Did we hit MoQ for all kits? My invoice has them all on there.

Which kits did you order?

Alllllllllllllll of the kits!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:24:58
Heh, funny invoice :D

Paid. :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:34:58
I haven't got my invoice yet?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:37:10
I haven't got my invoice yet?
I think he mentioned he's at around #40.
I didn't see it before, but there's a link on the second post of this page. If you click on it you should see what # in line you are.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:06:53
It seems Paypal has a limit of sending invoices per day around 30, I manage to sent out invoices until #94, will continue again later to see if the problem has gone.

While I was invoicing, I also added some CC spacebars to those who have ordered Base but not spacebars, or ordered 2 but only take 1, maybe I am wrong with that assumption, if you have any problem with that, please send me a PM so I can change them accordingly.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: airs on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:39:49
Kekkon, did all sets hit MoQ?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:51:43
Kekkon, did all sets hit MoQ?

If >80% of GHer paid their invoices, I am sure all kits can hit MOQ,except for CMYW which are now around 30sets away.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: baphotmet on Fri, 10 March 2017, 23:01:48
Kekkon, did all sets hit MoQ?

If >80% of GHer paid their invoices, I am sure all kits can hit MOQ,except for CMYW which are now around 30sets away.

If the CMYW can not hit MOQ and I paid for it, can I get CMYW refund?
Because I got the invoice, the CMYW is in the invoice now.

BTW, the shipping is not included in the invoice, is that correct?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 10 March 2017, 23:45:34
Kekkon, did all sets hit MoQ?

If >80% of GHer paid their invoices, I am sure all kits can hit MOQ,except for CMYW which are now around 30sets away.

If the CMYW can not hit MOQ and I paid for it, can I get CMYW refund?
Because I got the invoice, the CMYW is in the invoice now.

BTW, the shipping is not included in the invoice, is that correct?

shipping is charged when kekkon receives the sets and packs them all
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: Weiss on Sat, 11 March 2017, 05:11:44
Are the Forum Kits not included in the initial invoice? I'm 100% sure I filled out the Forum Kits form, but don't have it on my invoice.

Just wanted to check in before I pay up.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 11 March 2017, 05:29:05
Are the Forum Kits not included in the initial invoice? I'm 100% sure I filled out the Forum Kits form, but don't have it on my invoice.

Just wanted to check in before I pay up.

I need an updated invoice for the forum kit too.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: airs on Sat, 11 March 2017, 10:34:44
Also need updated invoice with forum kit.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: youbals on Sat, 11 March 2017, 11:51:06
Good day!
As I recently heard this GB, and placed my order here today. (thru here : DOLCH DOLCH DOLCH - ORDER HERE)
Really hopefully wanna join this GB, please let me know how to do payment.

Regards
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: codedisorg on Sat, 11 March 2017, 11:54:23
Kekkon, my invoice was missing one kit. Sent a PM.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: autobot on Sat, 11 March 2017, 14:21:34
Just paid, thanks kekkon!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: Blackhawk on Sat, 11 March 2017, 14:27:45
Have to cancel my order, sorry!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: IAmPyhrra on Sat, 11 March 2017, 14:43:36
Will the CMYW not be produced if MOQ is not reached?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: longtran1568 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 15:20:10
Just paid the invoice! Thanks again Kekkon!  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 11 March 2017, 21:09:25
Hey! There are too many replies so I won't quote them 1 by 1.

1. The Forum Kits will be in a separate invoices because it is added so late, and I think not everyone like it. Will have to wait a few more days to see how it goes.
2. The TU2/Cyan spacebars are only for invoices up to #5x because of the limited stock, and the total no. of orders only around 80, so I won't place a new order with GMK, sorry for this.
3. As for CMYW, if in the end we can get around 130~140 orders, I will make it tips.
4. The paypal is giving me weird error since the beginning, and I am yet to received any reply from Paypal suppport, will have to wait till Monday I guess. The invoicing progress is already 60% and I expect to finish them in a days or two.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: PandaRooooong on Sun, 12 March 2017, 05:49:16
Hi

I had order a Dolch Icon & CC Spacebars and paid (2 items price) today.
But the order detail is just Dolch Icon.
It's that something wrong?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 12 March 2017, 06:21:21
Hi

I had order a Dolch Icon & CC Spacebars and paid (2 items price) today.
But the order detail is just Dolch Icon.
It's that something wrong?

I can see the info at my side is Icon & CC Space bars

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: PandaRooooong on Sun, 12 March 2017, 07:17:31
Hi

I had order a Dolch Icon & CC Spacebars and paid (2 items price) today.
But the order detail is just Dolch Icon.
It's that something wrong?

I can see the info at my side is Icon & CC Space bars
um.....
But it still no CC Space bars in the order detail :confused:
(http://i.imgur.com/s1PjvJb.png)

Anway, the order should be 1 set keycap (including spacebar) and no extra spacebar.
If the order is right in your info, ignore this post

Thanks :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: calavera on Sun, 12 March 2017, 09:12:18
paid up, thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: bassguy on Sun, 12 March 2017, 12:57:41
Paid up, woo hoo!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: mindxthinker on Sun, 12 March 2017, 18:08:27
paid! woot!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 12 March 2017, 18:22:29
wrong thread -.-
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: toasters09 on Sun, 12 March 2017, 20:24:12
It says that I was sent an invoice but I don't see it in my paypal. Can I double check the email address I put on the form? I think I might have misspelled it.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: shawn o on Sun, 12 March 2017, 20:31:44
Just saw this and submitted an order.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 12 March 2017, 20:41:37
It says that I was sent an invoice but I don't see it in my paypal. Can I double check the email address I put on the form? I think I might have misspelled it.



Shoot me a PM if you still not received it.

Since the layout is pretty much fixed, I will get a new 3D render from my friend and update them on the front page, for now I will replace them with KLE version first.  :))

Paypal has also been nice to me this morning, I have been able to send out most of the invoice up to 177, sorry for 178 and 181..you'll need to wait until night where the error count reset again.  :))

I will begin to compile the response sheet later.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: jdos on Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:00:35
I sent reorder form yesterday.
Please check it and msg me which option is available to order or not.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: brizzzle on Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:48:34
Paid. Thanks for running this!

Sent from my Oneplus using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: lunr on Sun, 12 March 2017, 22:06:25
I hope the spreadsheet will get updated for the spacebars that were added when the invoices were sent and paid.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: pheneto on Mon, 13 March 2017, 02:06:35
GOOD CHOICE~!!
Complete payment.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 13 March 2017, 08:10:27
paid here! ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: -musubi on Mon, 13 March 2017, 12:30:10
Paid here as well! Man the keyset release rate has been astounding recently...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: Weiss on Mon, 13 March 2017, 20:31:45
Just checking, last day to pay is the 24th yes?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:04:22
Just checking, last day to pay is the 24th yes?

For now, yes...it all depend on the progress. :P
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: palindrome on Tue, 14 March 2017, 00:01:44
Paid.  Can't wait to receive this.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 14 March 2017, 07:46:39
Paid. Thanks Kekkon for making it happen.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: USER9127 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 08:42:26
I know this is past closing, but it states 188/200. Does that mean it will continue till the limit is reached? Is this GB still open?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:20:35
Hi everyone,

Thanks for those who have paid so far.  :thumb:

I need to say sorry because I think I just screw up by Paypal Fees. Since the total number of paid invoices reach 100, I thought it might be a good time to start doing some calculation and get ready for GMK invoices, then I realize the amount I received are lesser than I thought.  The amount range as small as HKD 2(USD 0.30) to HKD 25($3.30)

After some calculation, I think the Paypal fees charges on me is 4.4% instead of 3.9%.

(I use 4.1% in my invoice base on this calculation: 1/(1-0.039)=1.041
So to get the exact amount I need, I actually need to set the fees to: 1/(1-0.044)=1.046
)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ih5P324.png)

For now, I am currently around HKD1000($130.00) short.  :-X

I will start to modify unpaid invoices to the newer rate, and still thinking on how to get the shortage cover for now.

For those who has already paid, I will collect the different along with the shipping when the caps arrived.

I am really sorry for this to happen, if you would like a refund I can understand, just shoot me a PM for this.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: mindxthinker on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:23:16
Hi everyone,

Thanks for those who have paid so far.  :thumb:

I need to say sorry because I think I just screw up by Paypal Fees. Since the total number of paid invoices reach 100, I thought it might be a good time to start doing some calculation and get ready for GMK invoices, then only I realize the amount I received are lesser than I thought.  The amount range as small as HKD 2(USD 0.30) to HKD 25($3.30)

After some calculation, I think the Paypal fees charges on me is 4.4% instead of 3.9%.

(I use 4.1% in my invoice base on this calculation: 1/(1-0.039)=1.041
So to get the exact amount I need, I actually need to set the fees to: 1/(1-0.044)=1.046
)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Ih5P324.png)


For now, I am currently around HKD1000($130.00) short.  :-X

I will start to modify unpaid invoices to the newer rate, and still thinking on how to get the shortage cover for now.

For those who has already paid, I will collect the different along with the shipping when the caps arrived.

I am really sorry for this to happen, if you would like a refund I can understand, just shoot me a PM for this.

No worries bro~~
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:24:17
I know this is past closing, but it states 188/200. Does that mean it will continue till the limit is reached? Is this GB still open?

Nope, it just mean the no. pass the MOQ 150, we are still open for orders.

** I started to modify 4 invoices...and there are 60 more to go...at this point, I think I am going to give up modifying the rest of it and decide to collect them afterwards... :-X
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: romevi on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:25:05
The original invoice doesn't include shipping charges?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:27:52
The original invoice doesn't include shipping charges?

The shipping will only be charge after we get the keys.

No worries bro~~

Thanks bro.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: romevi on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:29:34
The original invoice doesn't include shipping charges?

The shipping will only be charge after we get the keys.

No worries bro~~

Thanks bro.

Ah, okay. Well, you can just add the extra fee to mine when you invoice for shipping.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: gandroider on Tue, 14 March 2017, 21:01:54
Hi kekkon,

I still haven't received my invoice. Please re-check your PP and kindly invoice me as I've mentioned on Sunday by PM.

Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 14 March 2017, 21:35:05
Hi kekkon,

I still haven't received my invoice. Please re-check your PP and kindly invoice me as I've mentioned on Sunday by PM.

Thank you.

Resend, I think I misread the "-" and "." in between your email address. :-X
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: toasters09 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 22:25:17
Since the GB is closed, would CMYW not reach MOQ because I was reading the forum and you said it needs around 130-140 but right now we only have 80 (from the spreadsheet) so would the GB for that not happen?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 15 March 2017, 04:23:54
Since the GB is closed, would CMYW not reach MOQ because I was reading the forum and you said it needs around 130-140 but right now we only have 80 (from the spreadsheet) so would the GB for that not happen?

Aside from GH, we also have gathered orders from China. x-CMYW is now 143 sets total orders, we'll only know the exact figure after the due date to see how many actually paid for them.

I also edit the GB Timeline to proper one which reflect the current situation, since we just start the invoicing progress, I am going to extend the GB and payment stage to next week. Hopefully this can help them to recover their pocket.  :p
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ash152152 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 05:49:42
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 15 March 2017, 05:53:49
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.

I think most of the keys fit~
(http://cdn.matt3o.com/uploads/2016/01/whitefox-all-layouts.jpg)

Credit to matt3o for the picture.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: airs on Wed, 15 March 2017, 12:21:19
Paid!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 15 March 2017, 12:35:43
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.

If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ATXTider on Wed, 15 March 2017, 13:47:35
Will pay tonight when I get to home!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: Hanni on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:00:27
OP PM'd
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ash152152 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 23:11:00
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.

If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.

The one I have is Aria layout
(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 16 March 2017, 00:57:26
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.

If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.

The one I have is Aria layout
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)


All the keys required to populate the Aria layout are included in the base set; but, the Page Up and Page Down profiles in the Aria are not standard. It takes row 3 and 4 respectively, while the standard are row 1 and 2. The 1800 style, included in the add on set, are 2 and 3. Thus, non of them fit the Aria. I think no set has them in the proper profile to fit the Aria. Maybe some one may enlighten us on a set that carries such keys, if there is any.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: codedisorg on Thu, 16 March 2017, 01:14:41
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.

If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.

The one I have is Aria layout
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)


All the keys required to populate the Aria layout are included in the base set; but, the Page Up and Page Down profiles in the Aria are not standard. It takes row 3 and 4 respectively, while the standard are row 1 and 2. The 1800 style, included in the add on set, are 2 and 3. Thus, non of them fit the Aria. I think no set has them in the proper profile to fit the Aria. Maybe some one may enlighten us on a set that carries such keys, if there is any.

Originative's sets tend to have that since it's also on the TADA. Skeletor, Keyboard & Co., & Sky Dolch v2 have it for sure. Unsure if GMK Originative has it. Could dig out my tray but I'm lazy. I remapped the right column on mine to ~, pg up, pg dn, and fn which is much much more common.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 16 March 2017, 01:36:52
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.

If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.

The one I have is Aria layout
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)


All the keys required to populate the Aria layout are included in the base set; but, the Page Up and Page Down profiles in the Aria are not standard. It takes row 3 and 4 respectively, while the standard are row 1 and 2. The 1800 style, included in the add on set, are 2 and 3. Thus, non of them fit the Aria. I think no set has them in the proper profile to fit the Aria. Maybe some one may enlighten us on a set that carries such keys, if there is any.

Originative's sets tend to have that since it's also on the TADA. Skeletor, Keyboard & Co., & Sky Dolch v2 have it for sure. Unsure if GMK Originative has it. Could dig out my tray but I'm lazy. I remapped the right column on mine to ~, pg up, pg dn, and fn which is much much more common.

Agree with you that the WhiteFox layout on that column is quite non-layout: how does the WhiteFox handle the Fn key on these layouts by the way?

For 75% it's also usually R2 PgUp, R3 PgDn. And on a 60%, the key right to the 1.75u R_Shift is usually a Fn key.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Added Forum Kits)
Post by: codedisorg on Thu, 16 March 2017, 10:03:23
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.

If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.

The one I have is Aria layout
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)


All the keys required to populate the Aria layout are included in the base set; but, the Page Up and Page Down profiles in the Aria are not standard. It takes row 3 and 4 respectively, while the standard are row 1 and 2. The 1800 style, included in the add on set, are 2 and 3. Thus, non of them fit the Aria. I think no set has them in the proper profile to fit the Aria. Maybe some one may enlighten us on a set that carries such keys, if there is any.

Originative's sets tend to have that since it's also on the TADA. Skeletor, Keyboard & Co., & Sky Dolch v2 have it for sure. Unsure if GMK Originative has it. Could dig out my tray but I'm lazy. I remapped the right column on mine to ~, pg up, pg dn, and fn which is much much more common.

Agree with you that the WhiteFox layout on that column is quite non-layout: how does the WhiteFox handle the Fn key on these layouts by the way?

For 75% it's also usually R2 PgUp, R3 PgDn. And on a 60%, the key right to the 1.75u R_Shift is usually a Fn key.

I never used my default caps but I know it comes with a 1u R4 Fn. My guess is that the default layouts are a single layer. If you want more, you can configure them and it is up to you where you place the key.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 17 March 2017, 04:52:44
I have remove the forum kits form since I think it won't happen base on the response rate.

In the mean time I will get contact with GMK to get 2 forum keys without additional charges, if we can place order with MOQ 150 for 3 kits(Base, AddOn and Color).
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 17 March 2017, 05:26:41
What about x-cmyw? Are they gonna make it?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 17 March 2017, 06:07:26
Attack GMK sent you an invoice for $1,320.42 HKD
Due on receipt


What the? LOL. Can you e-mail me? bmilcs@yahoo.com
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 17 March 2017, 06:13:21
Attack GMK sent you an invoice for $1,320.42 HKD
Due on receipt


What the? LOL. Can you e-mail me? bmilcs@yahoo.com

You can still pay the invoice.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 17 March 2017, 06:14:13
What about x-cmyw? Are they gonna make it?

They are now 120/150, and with around 30 invoice not yet paid..We'll find some way to make it tip since it's already 120.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 17 March 2017, 07:08:12
Attack GMK sent you an invoice for $1,320.42 HKD
Due on receipt


What the? LOL. Can you e-mail me? bmilcs@yahoo.com

I had the same reaction when I saw the invoice formatted with a US dollar sign and in HKD, but it's roughly $170 USD /w conversion.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: mindxthinker on Fri, 17 March 2017, 08:47:49
What about x-cmyw? Are they gonna make it?

They are now 120/150, and with around 30 invoice not yet paid..We'll find some way to make it tip since it's already 120.

Kekkon, I would love to help and buy 2 sets of x-CMYW. But I already paid for base and other kits...is it possible to send me additional inovice? or should I make new order for x-CMYW?
Title: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: iArson on Fri, 17 March 2017, 10:21:44
Whoops app didn't update. If more need to be purchased I might be able to buy extra.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: kiettv12 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 11:37:47
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 17 March 2017, 11:44:01
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though

You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.

Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: kiettv12 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 13:21:18
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though

You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.

Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.


I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: mindxthinker on Fri, 17 March 2017, 13:24:07
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though

You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.

Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.


I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3

You have to wait 2 years for duck viper v3...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 17 March 2017, 13:24:46
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though

You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.

Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.


I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3

Thats another thing! "Tour: a journey for pleasure in which several different places are visited."
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: kiettv12 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 13:26:46
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though

You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.

Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.


I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3

Thats another thing! "Tour: a journey for pleasure in which several different places are visited."

Thank you for correcting me i not good at english
But i will be vsiting someplace in us not for fun though
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 17 March 2017, 18:01:35
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though

You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.

Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.


I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3

Thats another thing! "Tour: a journey for pleasure in which several different places are visited."

Thank you for correcting me i not good at english
But i will be vsiting someplace in us not for fun though

Your English is good, I was not correcting you, just clarifying the reason for my remark.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 19 March 2017, 20:45:02
Hi everyone, we are very close to the final stage, I've update the latest order no at the front page.

With the current situation, I think I am gonna stop dragging the GB to the end of the week, instead, I will bring the dateline earlier to this Wednesday, which is March 22.

If you have problem paying the invoice before this date, please PM me and I will reserve the spot for you, else the invoice will be cancel.

Thanks for the support and make this happen.  :thumb:

**The x-CMYW will tip.

***I have sent a reminder to all unpaid invoices, if you don't feel like joining anymore, please cancel it.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: Jumie on Sun, 19 March 2017, 20:49:04
Naiiis... thanks for making it happen kekkon..
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Invoicing...)
Post by: PoisonKing on Mon, 20 March 2017, 03:20:25
**The x-CMYW will tip.

woot!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: gandroider on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:02:20
Hi kekkon, just paid the invoice.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:07:26
Kekkon, PM sent. My invoice isn't right.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: gt1989 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 09:26:06
Kekkon, PM sent. My invoice isn't right.
Same thing with mine.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: gt1989 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 10:22:20
Just paid my invoice

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 20 March 2017, 10:24:01
Kekkon, PM sent. My invoice isn't right.
Kekkon, PM sent. My invoice isn't right.
Same thing with mine.

Replied
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:55:17
All paid up! I apologize for being dumb and not reading info that I'm sure was provided already ;) Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: iArson on Mon, 20 March 2017, 12:32:09
Do you need extras purchased to push anything forward?


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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:25:35
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.

Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.

Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: palindrome on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:44:02
Thanks for all your work and congrats on your new house!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: wangbwhz on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:48:14
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.

Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.

Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday.  :thumb:
Lol.. I thought end of 22th is the deadline...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 22 March 2017, 05:36:20
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.
...

Wow, the GMK caps in all those GB do occupy lots of space.  :p
Good luck for the move!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 22 March 2017, 08:38:33
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.

Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.

Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday.  :thumb:
Lol.. I thought end of 22th is the deadline...

The form closed? I was hoping to put in my order today, since it's the deadline...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 22 March 2017, 10:08:18
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.

Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.

Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday.  :thumb:
Lol.. I thought end of 22th is the deadline...

The form closed? I was hoping to put in my order today, since it's the deadline...

I didn't expect such late entry...Send me a PM with your order details. :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:59:23
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.

Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.

Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday.  :thumb:
Lol.. I thought end of 22th is the deadline...

The form closed? I was hoping to put in my order today, since it's the deadline...

I didn't expect such late entry...Send me a PM with your order details. :)

Thank you so much for letting me enter late, PMing.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: bmilcs on Thu, 23 March 2017, 12:57:13
Man, now I gotta get my hands on some Novatouch stems ;P. Any sellers? :P
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 23 March 2017, 13:23:06
Man, now I gotta get my hands on some Novatouch stems ;P. Any sellers? :P

What about the JTK sliders? Those are shipping out to folks soon and I think there's still some available (and some retailers will have them, like Originative). Check the JTK Sophomore thread.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 26 March 2017, 23:25:56
Invoice paid. Thank you very much for a great and well priced set.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: tameone on Mon, 27 March 2017, 00:51:45
Man, now I gotta get my hands on some Novatouch stems ;P. Any sellers? :P

What about the JTK sliders? Those are shipping out to folks soon and I think there's still some available (and some retailers will have them, like Originative). Check the JTK Sophomore thread.

really want to grab these but the history of replacement topre stems is pretty piss poor.  Is there any evidence that the remade jtk stems are really nice? 
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: neon_tom on Mon, 27 March 2017, 06:45:45
Man, now I gotta get my hands on some Novatouch stems ;P. Any sellers? :P

What about the JTK sliders? Those are shipping out to folks soon and I think there's still some available (and some retailers will have them, like Originative). Check the JTK Sophomore thread.

really want to grab these but the history of replacement topre stems is pretty piss poor.  Is there any evidence that the remade jtk stems are really nice?

People are reporting receiving them on the JTK Sophomore thread. Best to keep an eye out there to see.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 27 March 2017, 12:33:59
Man, now I gotta get my hands on some Novatouch stems ;P. Any sellers? :P

What about the JTK sliders? Those are shipping out to folks soon and I think there's still some available (and some retailers will have them, like Originative). Check the JTK Sophomore thread.

really want to grab these but the history of replacement topre stems is pretty piss poor.  Is there any evidence that the remade jtk stems are really nice?

Here's a review: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/61rhwd/review_jtk_sliders_from_taobao/
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:26:54
Hi guys,

Just an update, I have just sent the final order quantity to GMK and asking for invoice. We took some time to settle orders from other place...hopefully we can get the invoice next week and start making payment early april.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: r5d on Thu, 30 March 2017, 03:18:08
Hi guys,

Just an update, I have just sent the final order quantity to GMK and asking for invoice. We took some time to settle orders from other place...hopefully we can get the invoice next week and start making payment early april.

Great! Excited for this set!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: jonovann on Tue, 04 April 2017, 13:05:01
is there any possible way for me to still get in on this?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 04 April 2017, 13:07:13
is there any possible way for me to still get in on this?


You should PM Kekkon, there may be some chance if the order has not been filed yet.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: jonovann on Tue, 04 April 2017, 13:19:20
is there any possible way for me to still get in on this?


You should PM Kekkon, there may be some chance if the order has not been filed yet.

Just did thanks for the info!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 06 April 2017, 20:09:23
Just a quick update, we have yet to receive invoice from GMK, seems they are pretty busy recently, hopefully we can received it by next week.

:)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 06 April 2017, 20:10:42
Just a quick update, we have yet to receive invoice from GMK, seems they are pretty busy recently, hopefully we can received it by next week.

:)

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 06 April 2017, 20:10:46
Just a quick update, we have yet to receive invoice from GMK, seems they are pretty busy recently, hopefully we can received it by next week.

 :)


Thank you for the update.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(End March 22)
Post by: -musubi on Thu, 06 April 2017, 22:57:46
Thanks for the frequent updates!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 16 April 2017, 21:42:49
I have just received latest rendering from GMK, the quotation will take longer time than expected since the PIC is currently on leave till 21th.

(http://i.imgur.com/CvGpPF1.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/73BiSTi.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Df5NSId.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/LD8zGAZ.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 16 April 2017, 22:11:46
Wow! That red escape and the other R1 novelties! Awesome.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 16 April 2017, 22:43:14
Love the Red Esc!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: palindrome on Mon, 17 April 2017, 02:37:49
Thank you for the update. Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 17 April 2017, 06:36:39
the DT novelty seems to be a different design than the original one, already made by GMK for @Wodan GB:

(http://i.imgur.com/tJxER4u.png)

do you know if it will be the same or not?

(also noted that cyan ansi enter have a shorter arrow and x-CMYW kit have blue TU1 insted on cyan (TU2) on Control caps, as well as N6 yellow instead of normal CV on Alts)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: poolside on Mon, 17 April 2017, 07:15:48
I have just received latest rendering from GMK, the quotation will take longer time than expected since the PIC is currently on leave till 21th.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/CvGpPF1.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/73BiSTi.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Df5NSId.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/LD8zGAZ.png)


Thanks.
It seems like the 1.5u diamonds did not make it.  :'(
I also noticed that the "burger" menu icon from the base set render is different from the icon used in the x-CMYW accent kit:
New:[attach=1]
"Old":[attach=2]
(Edit: These icons were grabbed from the GMK renders.)
I have never seen it before.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 17 April 2017, 08:44:56
The new DT looks cleaner than the former.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 17 April 2017, 09:22:57
I would say it looks awful  :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 17 April 2017, 10:20:02
Truth be told, the former logo is "the" actual DT logo. Maybe the OP would like to reconsider, unless it was due to copy right issues or something similar. Does someone own the rights for its use?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 17 April 2017, 10:39:09
AFAIK @matt3o himself shared the official DT designs for the Wodan HADapter GB, so I don't think there will be any problem to use it, as GMK already have it in their possession.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 17 April 2017, 11:35:51
AFAIK @matt3o himself shared the official DT designs for the Wodan HADapter GB, so I don't think there will be any problem to use it, as GMK already have it in their possession.


That means it is all up to the OP to choose the logo for the set. Being in Dolch color I think it would be great to have the original one. Still, the proposed one looks good but a bit less authentic. More like regular letters than a logo.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 17 April 2017, 12:48:02
Kudos to Ideus and Prelim for spotting the mistake in DT's logo, there should still be lots of time to correct them.

Sharp observation by poolside:
I really hope the 1.5u diamonds are there for the HHKB support.
I hope that is just a mistake mixing up different versions of renders.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 18 April 2017, 16:45:08
IIRC only paid members of the DT Club are allowed to use the official DT logo? Can someone confirm this?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 18 April 2017, 20:57:20
Hi everyone,

Thanks for correcting, I also notice the 2x 1.5u diamond are missing.

As for the DT, I am not sure why GMK come out with this variant, cause I had attach the HADapter picture in my email.

I am waiting for GMK to reply on these matters.

** CMYW also got the wrong color code for Cyan Color.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 18 April 2017, 21:22:57
...
as well as N6 yellow instead of normal CV on Alts)

I have seen CV and N6, and I personally like N6 more, so I have chose N6 for these GB.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: smokemm on Wed, 19 April 2017, 00:34:26
Is it possible to add the Dolch addon kit to my order?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: PoisonKing on Wed, 19 April 2017, 01:48:27
** CMYW also got the wrong color code for Cyan Color.  :))

Phew... thank goodness for that. I thought the actual color would be TU1 :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 19 April 2017, 05:27:54
I have seen CV and N6, and I personally like N6 more, so I have chose N6 for these GB.

then you shouldn't call it CMYW, because the colors do not apply. (N6 yellow is much more oranged)

CMY always was TU2/MG1/CV in all groupbuys so far.

IIRC only paid members of the DT Club are allowed to use the official DT logo? Can someone confirm this?

nops, I've already contacted @matt3o today and he said we can do it without any problem ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 19 April 2017, 21:06:16
Yeah the CMYW name threw me off.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: jacky on Wed, 19 April 2017, 23:08:42
 :thumb:Beautiful
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sat, 22 April 2017, 03:50:43
Hi,

is there a chance to order two x-CMYW Addons with shipping to germany?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sun, 23 April 2017, 11:14:02
no answer :-/
Title: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: neon_tom on Sun, 23 April 2017, 12:06:42
no answer :-/

You're probably not getting an answer because the GB has been closed for orders for over a month
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sun, 23 April 2017, 12:33:07
But if i understand the first post the payment process isn't complete.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 23 April 2017, 12:47:42
But if i understand the first post the payment process isn't complete.

the quantities have probably already been submitted
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sun, 23 April 2017, 13:47:52
But without the money all is open or not?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 23 April 2017, 14:51:39
But without the money all is open or not?


You should write Mr. KK directly to ask him about your interest. Nothing can be resolved by arguing in the thread, that is mostly for updates on the GB's progress.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sun, 23 April 2017, 15:06:30
okay, thx
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 24 April 2017, 21:08:35
Last few days was holiday for me, so I am not able to do any reply.

I am still waiting for reply after I submit the last email with list of error in last mockup, hopefully we can made payment ASAP.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 26 April 2017, 02:58:40
Just sharing the latest revision from GMK.

Base: The DT logo has been corrected, the arrow keys will be corrected to ↑↓←→ .
AddOn: Added 2 diamond keys
Color Kits: No Changes
x-CMYW: I mistype Control as Alt in the last email, so the outcome...I kinda like this theme, maybe I will get some TU2 Alt made. The Alt will be corrected to N6 and Control to TU2.

(http://i.imgur.com/mauLeO0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/dabK1l0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/KJIk93h.png)

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: iArson on Wed, 26 April 2017, 05:26:41
Just sharing the latest revision from GMK.

Base: The DT logo has been corrected, the arrow keys will be corrected to ↑↓←→ .
AddOn: Added 2 diamond keys
Color Kits: No Changes
x-CMYW: I mistype Control as Alt in the last email, so the outcome...I kinda like this theme, maybe I will get some TU2 Alt made. The Alt will be corrected to N6 and Control to TU2.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mauLeO0.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dabK1l0.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KJIk93h.png)

So are we no longer getting a yellow alt?

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 26 April 2017, 05:38:43
Just sharing the latest revision from GMK.

Base: The DT logo has been corrected, the arrow keys will be corrected to ↑↓←→ .
AddOn: Added 2 diamond keys
Color Kits: No Changes
x-CMYW: I mistype Control as Alt in the last email, so the outcome...I kinda like this theme, maybe I will get some TU2 Alt made. The Alt will be corrected to N6 and Control to TU2.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mauLeO0.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dabK1l0.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KJIk93h.png)

So are we no longer getting a yellow alt?

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk



We will get this made

(http://i.imgur.com/P7rwFqX.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 April 2017, 05:55:17
I honestly hope that the yellow N6 doesn't end in disappointment for everyone (it's very oranged IMHO)

(http://i2.muimg.com/567571/cfe1ad899f865240.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Wed, 26 April 2017, 13:57:22
why not CV ?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 26 April 2017, 14:42:51
No CV this year. :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sun, 30 April 2017, 07:23:00
hello friend

i want buy dolch addon kit

it is possible?

my invoice number is DSP-050
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: calavera on Mon, 01 May 2017, 05:36:43
I'm selling my dolch addon kit spot if anybody wants to take over.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Mon, 01 May 2017, 06:51:30
혹시 한국분들 중에서 에드온킷 넘기실분 계신가요?
쪽지 주세요 , 키보드랩이나 쿨앤조이 활동하고 있습니다.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: calavera on Mon, 01 May 2017, 06:59:24
Sold my spot to TalkingTree. Just posting to make it official. Thanks
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Arcsxum on Mon, 01 May 2017, 09:19:47
Any updates on this?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 03:26:18
Hi everyone,

The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.

I am preparing for the initial payment to GMK to secure a slot. The impace is more than I initially thought, I will hold the payment for now.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 04 May 2017, 04:14:50
Hi everyone,

The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.

I am preparing for the initial payment to GMK to secure a slot.

Oh dear... Anxious to hear what's wrong
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 04 May 2017, 04:19:12
Hi everyone,

The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.

I am preparing for the initial payment to GMK to secure a slot.

If the impact may trigger majority to request for a refund, you may want to disclose the impact / changes first before paying GMK so that just in case you have enough funding for making the refund.
Hope everything will eventually work out.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 04 May 2017, 09:41:01
Hi everyone,

The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.

I am preparing for the initial payment to GMK to secure a slot.

If the impact may trigger majority to request for a refund, you may want to disclose the impact / changes first before paying GMK so that just in case you have enough funding for making the refund.
Hope everything will eventually work out.

Agreed on that statement. I'm curious as to why it's taking so long to pay for this one?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 09:43:43
Hi everyone,

The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.

I am preparing for the initial payment to GMK to secure a slot.


You'd better share the information ASAP. "Huge impacts" remark makes people wonder and get nervous.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:10:22
Hi everyone,

So I received the invoice by today, and there are 2 things that bring up my concern.

1) The shipping fees is more expensive than I thought, and more expensive than my another GB, Dolch Reborn, which is 100 more.

I have send an email to GMK asking for clarification, and will discuss with them to find a way to reduce the shipping cost.

2. The currency conversion between HKD and Euro hike since April.

JAN 2017; 1 EURO = 8.25 HKD
MAY 2017; 1 EURO = 8.51 HKD
(This is the Google rate, actual bank rate will be higher than this.)

This is what worried me most. Before I set the final price for this GB, I actually look at the past 6 months rate as reference and set that rate for this GB at 8.40. The GB met with a few obstacles, the keyset went through a few revision to make sure that everything is in perfect order, and then the GMK person in charge went for a 2 weeks holiday during the invoice stage, which further delay the GB to May.

This GB is now around HKD 10,000 short from the currency exchange, and this includes the mistake I made during the invoicing stage

You might be wondering, since I have set a higher rate, there should be enough money to get this GB moving forward.
Before the rate changes, the price was just able to cover for the Cost+Shipping+Utilities Fees (Bank charges for wire transfer, transportation fees for my friend to go HK and pickup the sets .

Seeing how the price for this GB is going to increase because of the rate changes, I am going to let the GB participants to decide if they wanna pull out or stay with the GB.

The new rate will be set at 8.70, I will send the new invoice out by tomorrow to collect the difference, together with a link to this update.

I hope you all understand the rationale of this, I will see if we still can get this GB going on at the end of the week when the new invoices go out and getting the feedback we need.

Thank you all for the support so far, and sorry that the GB has come to a state like this.

The rate difference that need to be collected.

ItemHKDUSD
Base33.654.37
AddOn16.452.14
Color4.050.53


Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:16:01
This is one of the group buys with best pricing, even after the adjustment due to the exchange rates affair. Please invoice me.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: autobot on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:17:57
Thanks for clarification kekkon! I myself have no problem paying ~ $5 USD extra plus shipping  :thumb:

I'm sure others would agree.

And thank you for going back to GMK seeing how to reduce cost!  ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: IAmPyhrra on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:26:57
Thanks for letting us know Kekkon, I agree, many of us would not mind to pay the extra fee.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:28:07
I'm still in.. thanks for the transparency kekkon
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:35:59
Luckily that seems manageable.
Thanks Kekkon for the elaboration, although I still don't understand why here has to be transportation fees ("...for my friend to go HK and pickup the sets ...") can't GMK deliver to you directly?

I hope the fund collection will not delay the GB for too long.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:36:39
You can invoice me too.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:01:40
Luckily that seems manageable.
Thanks Kekkon for the elaboration, although I still don't understand why here has to be transportation fees ("...for my friend to go HK and pickup the sets ...") can't GMK deliver to you directly?

I hope the fund collection will not delay the GB for too long.

HongKong is free of tax, which mean we can save a lot compared to China(17% VAT) or Malaysia (6% VAT).

I will try my best to compile the Chronology of this GB since end of the March to date on why this GB took so long to get the invoice.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:11:09
Also, for those who request for refund, this will take a few days, probably next week before I can proceed with it since I have already withdraw most of the money to bank last week.

I will topup the paypal account and get the refund done.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: krispy on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:12:06
Thanks for the update and all the work you're putting into this kekkon! I also have no problem paying the extra fee and updated conversion adjusted price.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:18:21
Also, for those who request for refund, this will take a few days, probably next week before I can proceed with it since I have already withdraw most of the money to bank last week.

I will topup the paypal account and get the refund done.


Wouldn't it be better to offer the spots? I have read post of some individuals asking for the chance to join in.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:20:32
Luckily that seems manageable.
Thanks Kekkon for the elaboration, although I still don't understand why here has to be transportation fees ("...for my friend to go HK and pickup the sets ...") can't GMK deliver to you directly?

I hope the fund collection will not delay the GB for too long.

HongKong is free of tax, which mean we can save a lot compared to China(17% VAT) or Malaysia (6% VAT).

I will try my best to compile the Chronology of this GB since end of the March to date on why this GB took so long to get the invoice.

Interesting.

In Forbes top 10 tax Havens, Singapore is in and Hong Kong is out. I wonder if Singapore can serve similar function, or Luxembourg or London. By the way, this is a clever move, your friend will appear to have done just some shopping in Hong Kong. ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: iArson on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:27:50
I'd be willing to purchase more if necessary if you lose enough to lose MOQ. I'll just end up unloading them for cost when I get them.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:43:22
No worries, whew! Invoice me as well.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Thu, 04 May 2017, 12:11:47
If you can purchase  add-on kits
Please send us a revised invoice.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: airs on Thu, 04 May 2017, 12:14:50
The price increase isn't too bad and I understand the reason. Go ahead and invoice!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 04 May 2017, 14:52:54
Yeah, I'll pay the difference when you update invoices.

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: -musubi on Thu, 04 May 2017, 15:51:15
I'm all good with a new invoice, $5 doesn't seem bad at all!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 04 May 2017, 16:47:43
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)

Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 17:17:14
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)

Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!


That vendor's offering is over-priced. But, it is true that this GMK Icon Dolch Set has a great pricing.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ricyuyc on Thu, 04 May 2017, 18:39:12
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)

Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).


Anyway, I would pay the difference.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: YH YOON on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:22:14
pm'd

Can I send your money to your PayPal account now?

Will you give me an extra invoice?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:23:08
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)

Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).


Anyway, I would pay the difference.

Based on my Dolch Pac I'd say it's closer to creamy white than bright white
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ricyuyc on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:41:47
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)

Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).


Anyway, I would pay the difference.

Based on my Dolch Pac I'd say it's closer to creamy white than bright white
That's great.
Thank You~
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: palindrome on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:53:40
Thanks for the update on this. Feel free to invoice me.  I'm still in!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 21:25:49
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)

Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).


Anyway, I would pay the difference.

Based on my Dolch Pac I'd say it's closer to creamy white than bright white
That's great.
Thank You~


This is the true sh.....!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: PoisonKing on Thu, 04 May 2017, 22:23:16
Not a problem kekkon, I'm still in. Can you invoice me?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 23:33:02
I will start sending out invoice tonight.

For those who wanna refund, please wait for a few days as there will be some times needed for the topup work, please don't dispute and PM me instead, I have already refund 3~4 people until now.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Fri, 05 May 2017, 02:29:08
I'm still in.
If someone cancel his CMYW addon i would take it.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: r5d on Fri, 05 May 2017, 05:39:44
Definitely not pulling out of this :) Would take another AddOn kit even.

Also transparency and communication is very good. Keep it up!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 07:54:51
I have got some good news to share with you all.

After I communicate with GMK regarding this matter, they are willing to offer us some discount to help us get through. The exact amount is not yet known, but I will get in touch with them again next Monday to get more info.

However, the shipping fees is fixed for now, so I will do a recalculation on the amount to fit this changes.

The EURO is rising again today, to 8.55, I am going to work on invoicing now with a details amount posted later.

Once again, thanks for the support.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: autobot on Fri, 05 May 2017, 08:51:36
Thank you so much kekkon!

Your communication is much appreciated!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 05 May 2017, 09:55:49
Paid the difference!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:00:38
I am starting to send out the top up invoice, the amount is as below, with rate of 8.85, and also adding in the extra shipping fees. The AddOn price is a more accurate than yesterday, it seems I make some mistake.  :-X

ItemHKDUSD(Estimate)
Base33.654.37
AddOn16.452.14
Color4.050.53
x-CMYW23.853.10

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: thanhnv244 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:03:40
Paid!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:11:41
is someone with CMYW-Kit cancel his order?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: soilheart on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:57:58
So the latest invoice is only for the price difference? Will there be a third invoice for the shipping from you to us then?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:01:10
I received an invoice with a revised price
Can I buy an add-on kit now?
give me invoice
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:11:00
So the latest invoice is only for the price difference? Will there be a third invoice for the shipping from you to us then?

Yeap, shipping will be a different invoice.

On a side note, I am also not sure how I do this, I mange to send out all the155 invoices just now.

An apologize to some people that I revised the invoice for a few times due to my own mistake.  :-X
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:11:30
I received an invoice with a revised price
Can I buy an add-on kit now?
give me invoice

is someone with CMYW-Kit cancel his order?

Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:14:18
I am considering an add-on kit too, please let us know if adding one to the order is possible.


Edit: Difference paid.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: longtran1568 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:22:58
Just paid for the top-up invoice!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: bkw1209 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:39:49


Just paid for the top-up invoice!




Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:46:48
Paid, HKD always scared me as usual  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: bassguy on Fri, 05 May 2017, 12:00:33
Paid!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: -musubi on Fri, 05 May 2017, 13:55:51
Paid the top up as well   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Fri, 05 May 2017, 14:05:03

is someone with CMYW-Kit cancel his order?

Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list.  :thumb:

should i wait to pay? 
Title: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 05 May 2017, 14:15:43
Top up paid!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: airs on Fri, 05 May 2017, 17:55:37
Paid sir.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Arcsxum on Fri, 05 May 2017, 18:39:20
I only ordered the TU2 spacebar. Will I receive an invoice to pay a difference?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ricyuyc on Fri, 05 May 2017, 19:16:44
paid.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: dadoduk on Fri, 05 May 2017, 21:26:20
I paid!!

Thank your GB!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 22:12:25
I only ordered the TU2 spacebar. Will I receive an invoice to pay a difference?

Nope, TU2 spacebars was leftover from another Group Buy. :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 22:12:53

is someone with CMYW-Kit cancel his order?

Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list.  :thumb:

should i wait to pay? 

Yeap, I will change your invoice if the CMYW is going to happen.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: baphotmet on Fri, 05 May 2017, 23:53:42
paid
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 06 May 2017, 05:53:45
Paid! Had a minor heart attack before I realised the invoice was in HKD, not USD   :-X
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 06 May 2017, 08:35:27
Paid. Thanks for the explanation, I hope this is good to go now :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 06 May 2017, 08:36:39
Paid! Had a minor heart attack before I realised the invoice was in HKD, not USD   :-X


 :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 06 May 2017, 12:39:58
@kekkon

PM'd and e-mailed you about the additional invoice, not a biggy, just want to clarify to see what kits are in my order.
Please answer and / or amend the invoice when you have time.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: palindrome on Sun, 07 May 2017, 22:38:01
Paid in full!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 08 May 2017, 08:34:10
The status now is 114/151, I will try to mass PM those who are yet to paid to get their feedback ASAP.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Mon, 08 May 2017, 09:03:20

is someone with CMYW-Kit cancel his order?

Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list.  :thumb:

should i wait to pay? 

Yeap, I will change your invoice if the CMYW is going to happen.

i'm waiting to pay until you contact me
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Arcsxum on Mon, 08 May 2017, 10:47:49
I only ordered the TU2 spacebar. Will I receive an invoice to pay a difference?

Nope, TU2 spacebars was leftover from another Group Buy. :)
Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: rmearns on Mon, 08 May 2017, 12:36:22
paid!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Mon, 08 May 2017, 19:52:22
When I asked if I could order more addon kits
You answered,

Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list.

However, the invoices arrived on May 6 did not include the addon Kit.


Is not it possible to order ?

Waiting for answers
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 08 May 2017, 22:08:44
All invoices paid. Thank you very much for running this nice set Mr. KK.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: BwackDwagon on Mon, 08 May 2017, 23:14:42
Let me know if anybody is looking for someone to takeover the Add-on set. I can't believe I missed this.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 08 May 2017, 23:20:15
Let me know if anybody is looking for someone to takeover the Add-on set. I can't believe I missed this.


You should PM Mr. KK directly to ask if an add-on set may be added to your order.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: gandroider on Tue, 09 May 2017, 00:30:40
Hi kekkon,

I've read about this additional charges that may occur. Just send me the invoice... can't wait for this dolch set LOL..
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: bmilcs on Tue, 09 May 2017, 13:42:59
Extra $$ sent.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 09 May 2017, 14:26:13
Read through the details and managed.
Thanks Kekkon!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 10 May 2017, 09:27:42
To answer some question, I send the invoices and PM in batch, if you got question/want to top up just PM me and I will put them on pending status, and made a remark for them.

On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.

It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:


Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 10 May 2017, 09:32:43
PM'ed to replace the x-cmyw with the color kit :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: calavera on Wed, 10 May 2017, 09:43:53
Kekkon did you get my PM?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 10 May 2017, 10:18:26
To answer some question, I send the invoices and PM in batch, if you got question/want to top up just PM me and I will put them on pending status, and made a remark for them.

On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.

It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:

Additional keys, yummy!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 10 May 2017, 13:16:14
To answer some question, I send the invoices and PM in batch, if you got question/want to top up just PM me and I will put them on pending status, and made a remark for them.

On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.

It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:

It is a shame about the CMYW kits. I would be prepared to get an extra kit or two, but at 30 units short of MOQ, I'm not sure I have enough to take that many units. I would be interested in swapping my CMYW order for the teal accent kit if that's an option.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: palindrome on Wed, 10 May 2017, 23:57:12

It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:


Oh yes!  I have a few candidates in mind.  :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 11 May 2017, 00:22:34
To answer some question, I send the invoices and PM in batch, if you got question/want to top up just PM me and I will put them on pending status, and made a remark for them.

On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.

It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:

It is a shame about the CMYW kits. I would be prepared to get an extra kit or two, but at 30 units short of MOQ, I'm not sure I have enough to take that many units. I would be interested in swapping my CMYW order for the teal accent kit if that's an option.

I'm very disappointed! Where  can I get this set?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:30:25
To answer some question, I send the invoices and PM in batch, if you got question/want to top up just PM me and I will put them on pending status, and made a remark for them.

On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.

It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:

It is a shame about the CMYW kits. I would be prepared to get an extra kit or two, but at 30 units short of MOQ, I'm not sure I have enough to take that many units. I would be interested in swapping my CMYW order for the teal accent kit if that's an option.

I'm very disappointed! Where  can I get this set?

For CMYW, Originative seems to have ready stock now.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: lunr on Thu, 11 May 2017, 20:10:47
I somewhat liked the x-CMYW. It's a shame that it didn't reach moq :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 13 May 2017, 00:24:36
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Jumie on Sat, 13 May 2017, 01:17:25
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.

Filco minila and xd60 :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 13 May 2017, 04:15:15
Paid.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 13 May 2017, 04:18:16
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.

It's so complete that one can lose track of its completeness...  :p
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 13 May 2017, 06:07:55
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.

Filco minila and xd60 :)


Only the Filco Minila has a 2u Control key, but what the other - blank and shift - 2U keys are for? Are they redundant? Wouldn't that money be best invested buying other more useful keys? A second, spare, 6.25U space bar would rock, wouldn't it?


Edit: I just found that the Ergo-Dox takes up to 4, 2U keys; but, again, this set does not cover the Ergo Dox entirely.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: soilheart on Sat, 13 May 2017, 10:42:44
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.

Filco minila and xd60 :)



Only the Filco Minila has a 2u Control key, but what the other - blank and shift - 2U keys are for? Are they redundant? Wouldn't that money be best invested buying other more useful keys? A second, spare, 6.25U space bar would rock, wouldn't it?


Edit: I just found that the Ergo-Dox takes up to 4, 2U keys; but, again, this set does not cover the Ergo Dox entirely.

I think the blank 2U was added so you wouldn't be required to use a shift as a control on the minila. Not sure why the 2U shift was kept after that though as 2U's shifts are very rare (or old/odd, like the g80-11800) and could probably use the blank 2U...

EDIT: I obviously missed the 2U Control... My point still stands though, I don't see the use of all the special 2U keys, although I feel like it's too late to change the kits now =P Oh, and the blank was added because someone wanted it for planck spacebar it seems... (isn't GMK working on a convex 2u btw?)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: poolside on Sat, 13 May 2017, 10:51:53
The R4 Control is actually 1.75u  ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: neon_tom on Sat, 13 May 2017, 11:15:25
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.

Filco minila and xd60 :)



Only the Filco Minila has a 2u Control key, but what the other - blank and shift - 2U keys are for? Are they redundant? Wouldn't that money be best invested buying other more useful keys? A second, spare, 6.25U space bar would rock, wouldn't it?


Edit: I just found that the Ergo-Dox takes up to 4, 2U keys; but, again, this set does not cover the Ergo Dox entirely.

I think the blank 2U was added so you wouldn't be required to use a shift as a control on the minila. Not sure why the 2U shift was kept after that though as 2U's shifts are very rare (or old/odd, like the g80-11800) and could probably use the blank 2U...

EDIT: I obviously missed the 2U Control... My point still stands though, I don't see the use of all the special 2U keys, although I feel like it's too late to change the kits now =P Oh, and the blank was added because someone wanted it for planck spacebar it seems... (isn't GMK working on a convex 2u btw?)

The 2u shift was a primary driver for me buying this because I'm tired of having to rely on blanks. Yes, it's a rare key but for me, it was a great feature of this set.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: soilheart on Sat, 13 May 2017, 12:08:12
I think the blank 2U was added so you wouldn't be required to use a shift as a control on the minila. Not sure why the 2U shift was kept after that though as 2U's shifts are very rare (or old/odd, like the g80-11800) and could probably use the blank 2U...

EDIT: I obviously missed the 2U Control... My point still stands though, I don't see the use of all the special 2U keys, although I feel like it's too late to change the kits now =P Oh, and the blank was added because someone wanted it for planck spacebar it seems... (isn't GMK working on a convex 2u btw?)

The 2u shift was a primary driver for me buying this because I'm tired of having to rely on blanks. Yes, it's a rare key but for me, it was a great feature of this set.

Ah, I see. G80-11[8/9]00 user? Or some other funky layout?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: neon_tom on Sat, 13 May 2017, 12:12:33
I think the blank 2U was added so you wouldn't be required to use a shift as a control on the minila. Not sure why the 2U shift was kept after that though as 2U's shifts are very rare (or old/odd, like the g80-11800) and could probably use the blank 2U...

EDIT: I obviously missed the 2U Control... My point still stands though, I don't see the use of all the special 2U keys, although I feel like it's too late to change the kits now =P Oh, and the blank was added because someone wanted it for planck spacebar it seems... (isn't GMK working on a convex 2u btw?)

The 2u shift was a primary driver for me buying this because I'm tired of having to rely on blanks. Yes, it's a rare key but for me, it was a great feature of this set.

Ah, I see. G80-11[8/9]00 user? Or some other funky layout?

Tinkering with an XD60 layout
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 13 May 2017, 12:33:20
It is good to know someone will use at least one of them, after all.


Truth be told, the add-on set was out of my radar until recently, when I decided to add it to my order, so please excuse me for raising these concerns this late. However, if the PO is not set yet, there is still some room for making fine adjustments to the sets. We all know that any key wider than one unit is more expensive, so if one or two out of the three 2U keys included could be replaced with something of broader appeal, it worth the time discussing.


The OP can always claim that time for changes is over and that the set layout is written in stone. But, asking will not do any harm, while we can get a few nice useful keys.  ;D


If the three keys have potential use for any of the GB's buyers the issue can be immediately settled. I just would like to know it. Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 14 May 2017, 21:44:28
A heads up and flag rising on a manufacturing quality issue reported by a participant of the GMK Honeywell group buy.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679

It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 15 May 2017, 03:42:12
A heads up and flag rising on a manufacturing quality issue reported by a participant of the GMK Honeywell group buy.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679

It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.

Interesting, let me send an email to GMK and get feedback from them.

Over the weekend, I have compile the final orders quantity and has sent it over to GMK.

Now on the refund for CMYW, for those with CMYW only orders, I will direct refund.

As for those with other kits, what I have in my mind now is that I will use the CMYW as shipping fees when the keycaps arrived. We should able to know what's the price soon when Dolch Reborn start shipping, from there I will refund the remaining throught the ori invoice.

Any comments are welcome on this.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Ultraman on Mon, 15 May 2017, 03:50:30
Hey Kekkon, I msg'd you about the refunds if we can't opt into extra charges. What's the timeline on that? Thanks
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 15 May 2017, 05:45:44
Hey Kekkon, I msg'd you about the refunds if we can't opt into extra charges. What's the timeline on that? Thanks

Pardon me, but what is your invoice no?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 15 May 2017, 06:03:47
I know it's tad late, but if anyone wants to part with their base set, I'm gladly buying it.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 19 May 2017, 08:07:06
A heads up and flag rising on a manufacturing quality issue reported by a participant of the GMK Honeywell group buy.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679)

It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.

Interesting, let me send an email to GMK and get feedback from them.

Over the weekend, I have compile the final orders quantity and has sent it over to GMK.

Now on the refund for CMYW, for those with CMYW only orders, I will direct refund.

As for those with other kits, what I have in my mind now is that I will use the CMYW as shipping fees when the keycaps arrived. We should able to know what's the price soon when Dolch Reborn start shipping, from there I will refund the remaining throught the ori invoice.

Any comments are welcome on this.


FYI: I have read about an answer on the issue, apparently from GMK, that they consider flash and bad molding defects underneath the cap as cosmetic. That is not acceptable, the reinforcement cross underneath the key cap was included in the original design by Cherry for a reason and having those reinforcements wrong molded is not cosmetic. In the Honeywell set's GB Thread someone wrote that the defect appears to be related with custom colors, I just hope that Dolch is not in that category and no issue would arise. In any case, close communication with GMK is highly advisable. This is the first time this issue arises.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 19 May 2017, 09:21:31
A heads up and flag rising on a manufacturing quality issue reported by a participant of the GMK Honeywell group buy.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679)

It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.

Interesting, let me send an email to GMK and get feedback from them.

Over the weekend, I have compile the final orders quantity and has sent it over to GMK.

Now on the refund for CMYW, for those with CMYW only orders, I will direct refund.

As for those with other kits, what I have in my mind now is that I will use the CMYW as shipping fees when the keycaps arrived. We should able to know what's the price soon when Dolch Reborn start shipping, from there I will refund the remaining throught the ori invoice.

Any comments are welcome on this.


FYI: I have read about an answer on the issue, apparently from GMK, that they consider flash and bad molding defects underneath the cap as cosmetic. That is not acceptable, the reinforcement cross underneath the key cap was included in the original design by Cherry for a reason and having those reinforcements wrong molded is not cosmetic. In the Honeywell set's GB Thread someone wrote that the defect appears to be related with custom colors, I just hope that Dolch is not in that category and no issue would arise. In any case, close communication with GMK is highly advisable. This is the first time this issue arises.

 :eek: We need some other manufacturers to try to kick GMK ass.
Just like how Gateron and others getting some market share of Cherry.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 19 May 2017, 13:07:35
A heads up and flag rising on a manufacturing quality issue reported by a participant of the GMK Honeywell group buy.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679)

It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.

Interesting, let me send an email to GMK and get feedback from them.

Over the weekend, I have compile the final orders quantity and has sent it over to GMK.

Now on the refund for CMYW, for those with CMYW only orders, I will direct refund.

As for those with other kits, what I have in my mind now is that I will use the CMYW as shipping fees when the keycaps arrived. We should able to know what's the price soon when Dolch Reborn start shipping, from there I will refund the remaining throught the ori invoice.

Any comments are welcome on this.


FYI: I have read about an answer on the issue, apparently from GMK, that they consider flash and bad molding defects underneath the cap as cosmetic. That is not acceptable, the reinforcement cross underneath the key cap was included in the original design by Cherry for a reason and having those reinforcements wrong molded is not cosmetic. In the Honeywell set's GB Thread someone wrote that the defect appears to be related with custom colors, I just hope that Dolch is not in that category and no issue would arise. In any case, close communication with GMK is highly advisable. This is the first time this issue arises.

 :o We need some other manufacturers to try to kick GMK ass.
Just like how Gateron and others getting some market share of Cherry.


It is not known if the answer came from GMK or from the middle man of that other GB Sherryton's, just be aware of it. Our GB leader has direct contact with the manufacturer, so just keeping him informed may help.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 22 May 2017, 07:20:00
Hi,

I am still waiting for GMK response, I will shoot them an email today to get an update.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 22 May 2017, 07:25:28
Hi,

I am still waiting for GMK response, I will shoot them an email today to get an update.
Do you think you can add a basekit to the GMK order for me? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: iArson on Mon, 22 May 2017, 09:11:06
If the orders haven't been placed is it too late to cancel. Originally on board because I liked the modifiers but without them I might want out.

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 22 May 2017, 09:39:26
If the orders haven't been placed is it too late to cancel. Originally on board because I liked the modifiers but without them I might want out.
I'll take your spot for the basekit if kekkon agrees.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: iArson on Mon, 22 May 2017, 10:44:08
If the orders haven't been placed is it too late to cancel. Originally on board because I liked the modifiers but without them I might want out.
I'll take your spot for the basekit if kekkon agrees.
I have more than just a base. I have everything but the add on. I'll message him and see what can be done. How many CYMK short were we

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 22 May 2017, 12:35:55
How many CYMK short were we
By the look of the first post, nine.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Cantello on Wed, 24 May 2017, 07:29:59
How many CYMK short were we
By the look of the first post, nine.

If it helps, I'll chime in with a CMYW set.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: iArson on Wed, 24 May 2017, 10:06:30
Yeah I was pretty vocal about buying extra sets, there wasn't really a warning. Just that it didn't make it

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 24 May 2017, 11:01:17
I would buy back into my set if it's going to make it.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 25 May 2017, 07:34:53
I have received the invoice and already made a first payment attempt.

As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 25 May 2017, 08:38:14
I have received the invoice and already made a first payment attempt.

As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.


Any feedback on fixing the underneath stem's reinforcements defect?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 25 May 2017, 08:45:53
I have received the invoice and already made a first payment attempt.

As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.


Any feedback on fixing the underneath stem's reinforcements defect?

Not yet, only invoice update till now.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 25 May 2017, 09:10:21
I have received the invoice and already made a first payment attempt.

As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.


Any feedback on fixing the underneath stem's reinforcements defect?

Not yet, only invoice update till now.


it would be very disappointing if this nice and special set comes with defects after feedback on a quality issue has been reported to GMK.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 25 May 2017, 17:54:33
Any chance GMK can make an exception for the CMYW set? We are pretty damn close to the MOQ and have ordered a fair amount of other stuff within this order? I could understand them saying no if it was just the CMYW set on it's own?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 27 May 2017, 08:15:51
I have received the invoice and already made a first payment attempt.

As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.


Any feedback on fixing the underneath stem's reinforcements defect?

Not yet, only invoice update till now.


it would be very disappointing if this nice and special set comes with defects after feedback on a quality issue has been reported to GMK.

Perhaps GH, DT, and /r/mk can make a joint online petition addressed to GMK. If pinned on top, hope there'll be at least a few hundard signatures.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 27 May 2017, 10:17:37
Not a bad idea joining to get GMK attention. The problem that may come first is that some fellows have been very vocal on the defect not being a defect, to start with. I have checked the OG Cherry sets that I have and none has the defect and considering that these sets are not cheap, even for mechanical keyboard stuff standards, it is something none acceptable. But vendors and manufacturers may side with those that have already dismissed this problem as not being a problem. What else could be easier than just stating that this is not a problem.


I think, that at least this upcoming manufacturing lot should be requested to be defect free. If our GB leader achieves a defect free manufacturing lot, it may be a strong precedent for future productions that they should also be free of these nasty defects. What may be better than a demonstration with evidence that these GMK made sets could be as nice as any old OG Cherry made one.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: shensmobile on Tue, 30 May 2017, 10:18:20
Ah, due to poor circumstances, I need to back out of my order.  Is there anyone out there who would like to take over my order if Kekkon is unable to refund me?  I just have an order for the base set+CC space bars.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 30 May 2017, 12:32:58
I also need to find someone to take my spot if I can't be refunded. I have the base + CC spacebars + addons. PM me if interested.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 30 May 2017, 14:34:53
Ah, due to poor circumstances, I need to back out of my order.  Is there anyone out there who would like to take over my order if Kekkon is unable to refund me?  I just have an order for the base set+CC space bars.
I will.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 31 May 2017, 08:42:57
if someone want to sell thier spot

-Dolch Icon      
-Dolch AddOn

please PM me thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: -musubi on Wed, 31 May 2017, 14:10:12
if someone want to sell thier spot

-Dolch Icon      
-Dolch AddOn

please PM me thanks :)

I am looking to sell my spot as well, pmed!

For clarity, I have the base + addons + CC spacebars kits.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 31 May 2017, 22:13:49
if someone want to sell thier spot

-Dolch Icon      
-Dolch AddOn

please PM me thanks :)

I am looking to sell my spot as well, pmed!

For clarity, I have the base + addons + CC spacebars kits.

go pm-ing kekkon about this ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Arcsxum on Wed, 31 May 2017, 23:25:52
Hey kekkon,

Any update on a ship date? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar if that helps you determine a time frame.
If not or depending on the date, I might want a refund.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Amnesia on Thu, 01 June 2017, 00:46:09
dang.... I'm sad I slacked so much on keyboards... totally woulda gotten one of everything and two x-CMYW if they had hit MOQ >_<.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 01 June 2017, 09:13:31
I think today is a good time for an update. It seems people needs it badly. Even a simple statement on the state of affairs may help.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 01 June 2017, 11:38:02
Sorry for hiatus for a week, I am just coming back from China.

The invoice has been paid, and we are now waiting for GMK confirmation on this, should be done within this week.

It is now 12:30am here, so I won't be able to reply any PM for now.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Thu, 01 June 2017, 11:49:26
We waited too long.

Can you get it before summer is over?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Arcsxum on Fri, 02 June 2017, 00:23:08
Hey kekkon,

Is it possible for me to get a refund? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar.

Please let me know. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 02 June 2017, 01:36:39
We waited too long.

Can you get it before summer is over?
No we didn't, it's not how this works
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:35:41
We waited too long.

Can you get it before summer is over?

I expect this will be shipped on September/2017, but I am not sure if it is still summer.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:36:07
Hey kekkon,

Is it possible for me to get a refund? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar.

Please let me know. Thanks.

Ok.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: longtran1568 on Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:36:47
We waited too long.

Can you get it before summer is over?

I expect this will be shipped on September/2017, but I am not sure if it is still summer.

It's summer to me whenever I receive it :P
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:42:46
We waited too long.

Can you get it before summer is over?

I expect this will be shipped on September/2017, but I am not sure if it is still summer.




It's summer to me whenever I receive it :p


Or whatever be your favorite season.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ATXTider on Sat, 03 June 2017, 00:34:18
Is x-CMYW going to get made?  That's all I ordered.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: hyonglaw on Sat, 03 June 2017, 01:19:38
Hello Kekkon

Can you please give me a refund?

September wasn't the expected expected time for this GB and I don't think I can wait for it
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 03 June 2017, 05:58:10
GB lead times being some months long is quite normal. After all, we are not buying in a store with stock, neither at retail prices. For those asking for refunds, it is not the way a GB works, you should either wait for the GB reaching completion phase or asking somebody else to jump into the GB instead of you. The money has been used to pay the goods to the manufacturer, therefore there is no funds to give back. I can see that some of the people asking for it are new to the board, so I suggest you to read the general guidelines on group buys (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77272.msg1943402#msg1943402).
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 03 June 2017, 09:21:36
@hyonglaw

I think you probably don't understand how group buy works.
Kekkon is a nice guy and he can give you a refund, but I suggest you to sell you spot here - there are people waiting in a line to get this kit.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: hyonglaw on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:35:26
@menuhin

I know how group buy works, and also know that most of GBs offer refund when they do not meet their initial estimated shipping deadline for about two months, though not sure if Kekkon accepts the refund.

There are some people who can wait for the extra two months, while some people can't. It's that simple, and not the problem of understanding how GB works.

I also understand if he doesn't accept my refund request, which will lead me to finding someone else to get the keycaps instead.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: codedisorg on Sat, 03 June 2017, 20:03:22
Hey kekkon,

Is it possible for me to get a refund? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar.

Please let me know. Thanks.

Ok.

Can I take the spacebar? I originally wanted a TU2 set but they ran out before I submitted my order.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 03 June 2017, 20:19:12
I can understand being frustrated in the midst of Penumbra or whatever where people waited ages upon ages, but going from a July/August estimate to September is nothing.  TBH if that much of a deviation is a deal breaker for you, then group buys aren't meant for you since delays are to be expected.  Group buys aren't a preorder of a retail release product, you're not buying an iphone from a big chain store.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Arcsxum on Sat, 03 June 2017, 20:43:07
Hey kekkon,

Is it possible for me to get a refund? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar.

Please let me know. Thanks.

Ok.

Can I take the spacebar? I originally wanted a TU2 set but they ran out before I submitted my order.

If kekkon could transfer the order, this works out really well.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 03 June 2017, 20:43:52
@menuhin

I know how group buy works, and also know that most of GBs offer refund when they do not meet their initial estimated shipping deadline for about two months, though not sure if Kekkon accepts the refund.

There are some people who can wait for the extra two months, while some people can't. It's that simple, and not the problem of understanding how GB works.

I also understand if he doesn't accept my refund request, which will lead me to finding someone else to get the keycaps instead.


With three posts you know how GB works? Yeah sure. Maybe somewhere else, but here, beyond rules, there is some basic etiquette and respect for those that take the time to run a GB and delivers. You do not exhibit such manners.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: hyonglaw on Sun, 04 June 2017, 03:08:15
@menuhin

I know how group buy works, and also know that most of GBs offer refund when they do not meet their initial estimated shipping deadline for about two months, though not sure if Kekkon accepts the refund.

There are some people who can wait for the extra two months, while some people can't. It's that simple, and not the problem of understanding how GB works.

I also understand if he doesn't accept my refund request, which will lead me to finding someone else to get the keycaps instead.


With three posts you know how GB works? Yeah sure. Maybe somewhere else, but here, beyond rules, there is some basic etiquette and respect for those that take the time to run a GB and delivers. You do not exhibit such manners.

Oh yeah, there were few misunderstandings

first, the title of GB thread was still 'requesting invoices', and second, I just jumped to the last page and missed Kekkon mentioning about the payment to GMK, so I thought the payment hasn't still been made. As he offered a refund after the delays before, I thought refund would be okay before the payment, and thats why I asked him for refund.

Whatever, as I found out that the payments have already been made, I understand that refund is not the appropriate way.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 12 June 2017, 09:03:13
GMK has confirmed they received the payment.

(http://i.imgur.com/YTuU8DD.png)

Also, the 6U spacebars is compatible with Cherry 1800 layout for those who are wondering.  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/NUZLzCl.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 12 June 2017, 09:05:01
Hello Kekkon

Can you please give me a refund?

September wasn't the expected expected time for this GB and I don't think I can wait for it

Sure, sorry for missing this. :)

I also want to say sorry to everyone for the lack of update recently as my full time job is occupying my time on weekdays and my weekend also more happening than before. If you got question, please send me a PM.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 12 June 2017, 09:09:26
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 12 June 2017, 11:53:59
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.

WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 12 June 2017, 14:22:54
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.

WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?

You should ask Originative  what type of 6u space bar you are buying. What we have heard is that now GMK has molds with centered stems for that space bar size. The former standard off-centered stems molds should be still available. However, from now on, each GB leader should discuss what type of 6u space bar would be included if any. If the space bars you are buying are already in stock, it is likely that they are of the off centered stems type.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ricyuyc on Mon, 12 June 2017, 19:20:50
Is it physically possible to have both off-centre and centered stems at the same spacebar? Hybrid?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 13 June 2017, 01:27:12
(http://i.imgur.com/ZeqJjeg.png)

Updated render for Dolch Icon which I forgot to post long time ago.  :-X

The arrow keys had been fixed.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: romevi on Tue, 13 June 2017, 01:29:32
lol
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: wangbwhz on Tue, 13 June 2017, 01:49:00
LOL,finally..
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: thanhnv244 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 02:14:20
@kekkon: do you think we can finish this group buy before 2018  :D
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 June 2017, 07:36:55
Is it physically possible to have both off-centre and centered stems at the same spacebar? Hybrid?


It is not, apparently.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 10:47:42
OK... so everything that is getting ordered has been paid for that's the order placed now?
If so and x-CMYW didn't make it when are you going to refund for that set?
Just would like to know what the plan is, not harassing & many thanks again for organising this =]
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 13 June 2017, 11:17:35
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.

WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?

You should ask Originative  what type of 6u space bar you are buying. What we have heard is that now GMK has molds with centered stems for that space bar size. The former standard off-centered stems molds should be still available. However, from now on, each GB leader should discuss what type of 6u space bar would be included if any. If the space bars you are buying are already in stock, it is likely that they are of the off centered stems type.

I just wonder what keyboard other than the g80-1800 use a 6u spacebar
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:21:47
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.

WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?

You should ask Originative  what type of 6u space bar you are buying. What we have heard is that now GMK has molds with centered stems for that space bar size. The former standard off-centered stems molds should be still available. However, from now on, each GB leader should discuss what type of 6u space bar would be included if any. If the space bars you are buying are already in stock, it is likely that they are of the off centered stems type.

I just wonder what keyboard other than the g80-1800 use a 6u spacebar

Razer, Patriot, QPAD and a few other gaming style OEMs uses 6u centre stemmed spacebars
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ATXTider on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:30:00
OK... so everything that is getting ordered has been paid for that's the order placed now?
If so and x-CMYW didn't make it when are you going to refund for that set?
Just would like to know what the plan is, not harassing & many thanks again for organising this =]

I ordered x-CMYW only, and got a refund yesterday.  I'm guessing you'll see a refund soon for any x-CMYW.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:30:54
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.

WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?

You should ask Originative  what type of 6u space bar you are buying. What we have heard is that now GMK has molds with centered stems for that space bar size. The former standard off-centered stems molds should be still available. However, from now on, each GB leader should discuss what type of 6u space bar would be included if any. If the space bars you are buying are already in stock, it is likely that they are of the off centered stems type.

I just wonder what keyboard other than the g80-1800 use a 6u spacebar

Razer, Patriot, QPAD and a few other gaming style OEMs uses 6u centre stemmed spacebars


Interesting. I thought that the 6u-SB with centered stem was only for Topre modders.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Requesting Invoice)
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 13:24:29
> I ordered x-CMYW only, and got a refund yesterday.  I'm guessing you'll see a refund soon for any x-CMYW.

Thanks for letting me know, too bad it didn't make it :/

EDIT: and I have received the partial refund for the x-CMYW today - thanks =]


Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 19 June 2017, 07:31:16
Any progress on this?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 22 June 2017, 06:29:57
indeed, is it already in manufacturing process? How about foreseen shipping date?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: krispy on Fri, 23 June 2017, 08:48:12
Seriously its been months since we paid our invoices. I really hope production has started at the very least  :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 23 June 2017, 12:04:14
Dear @Kekkon, nowadays seems to be a good time for an update, one more time.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: Amnesia on Fri, 23 June 2017, 12:40:08
Dang... this is a much better set than the one originative sells. I would have actually bought it. Someday... though my wallet is pleased. :D


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 29 June 2017, 03:08:51
For the 6u spacebar, we are getting the off-centered which is the standard for 1800 layout or old cherry board.

On the Dolch itself, the production is yet to be updated from my last email on Monday.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 29 June 2017, 03:26:13
kekkon will you please check your PMs at your earliest convenience?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 June 2017, 07:09:37
For the 6u spacebar, we are getting the off-centered which is the standard for 1800 layout or old cherry board.

On the Dolch itself, the production is yet to be updated from my last email on Monday.


Good news! Thank you for the update. This set is one of the more complete Dolch replicas ever made, thank you.


Edit: If you happen to have a Color Kit dropped, I am interested in getting it, along with my original order.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: pjriot on Fri, 30 June 2017, 14:03:29
If a space opens up I'd love to get on board for the base set with addons and CC spacebars!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 30 June 2017, 20:17:57
If a space opens up I'd love to get on board for the base set with addons and CC spacebars!

messaged.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 30 June 2017, 21:36:29
If someone wants to drop his/her color kit, I can get it for you. PM-me, please.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: pjriot on Fri, 30 June 2017, 21:58:46
messaged.

Replied!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 30 June 2017, 23:08:53
For the 6u spacebar, we are getting the off-centered which is the standard for 1800 layout or old cherry board.

On the Dolch itself, the production is yet to be updated from my last email on Monday.


Good news! Thank you for the update. This set is one of the more complete Dolch replicas ever made, thank you.


Edit: If you happen to have a Color Kit dropped, I am interested in getting it, along with my original order.

I do have extra color kits. :p
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: Dteach on Sat, 01 July 2017, 00:01:44
Wish it wasn't too late to get in on this :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 01 July 2017, 09:52:52
For the 6u spacebar, we are getting the off-centered which is the standard for 1800 layout or old cherry board.

On the Dolch itself, the production is yet to be updated from my last email on Monday.


Good news! Thank you for the update. This set is one of the more complete Dolch replicas ever made, thank you.


Edit: If you happen to have a Color Kit dropped, I am interested in getting it, along with my original order.

I do have extra color kits. :p


Awesome, please add one to my order and invoice me.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: gandroider on Mon, 03 July 2017, 22:34:12
Hi kekkon, I haven't received my refund. But I'm willing to add color-kits in to my order. And you can refund the rest to my PP.

Thank you
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: pjriot on Tue, 04 July 2017, 19:16:09
Hi kekkon,

Just tried to PM you but I think it was swallowed. (not showing up in my sent items)

If you're not reserving whollypantalones spot I'm still extremely interested!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 11 July 2017, 13:42:32
I'm selling my order, Base set and CC Spacebars.

PM me if you are interested.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: barcode on Wed, 12 July 2017, 03:56:18
I'm selling my order, Base set and CC Spacebars.

PM me if you are interested.
I'd love to buy in with your order but I need the addon set as well. If anyone has an addon set they'd like to get out of then i'd be willing to buy in with that and your order for a base set + cc spacebars + addon set.

if that fails and it gets to shipping time then hit me up and I might buy them at that point even without the addon.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 12 July 2017, 07:10:02
I'm selling my order, Base set and CC Spacebars.

PM me if you are interested.
I'd love to buy in with your order but I need the addon set as well. If anyone has an addon set they'd like to get out of then i'd be willing to buy in with that and your order for a base set + cc spacebars + addon set.

if that fails and it gets to shipping time then hit me up and I might buy them at that point even without the addon.


There might be some addon sets available directly from Kekkon, you should write him.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: barcode on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:12:32
There might be some addon sets available directly from Kekkon, you should write him.
I sent him a pm about getting a set of caps maybe a week ago? no response
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:18:56
There might be some addon sets available directly from Kekkon, you should write him.
I sent him a pm about getting a set of caps maybe a week ago? no response


That's not good. I wrote him a few weeks ago also, with no response, either.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:26:55
1 month after GMK payment confirmation and still no production and delivery dates?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:36:41
I have actually sent an email to GMK on Monday, but unfortunately, Miss Michaela is on leave until 27th of July.

Hopefully we can get the estimate delivery date after that.

(http://i.imgur.com/fyQrESo.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 12 July 2017, 10:27:44
eish :/ maybe her backup colleagues then?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: airs on Wed, 12 July 2017, 16:22:23
Agreed, contact another person at GMK and ask for the estimate.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 14 July 2017, 08:44:28
Just contact GMK and they will try to give me an update by next week, Monday.

Also, I have also asked for the possibility to change the 2U blank key to the 2u spacebars, GMK say they will check if it is possible and give me an update by Monday as well.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 14 July 2017, 10:50:39
Just contact GMK and they will try to give me an update by next week, Monday.

Also, I have also asked for the possibility to change the 2U blank key to the 2u spacebars, GMK say they will check if it is possible and give me an update by Monday as well.

Brilliant kekkon! :)
You're going to be a champ in GMK Group-buy history by running this comprehensive Dolch set and by managing it well.
Please keep it up.
Love.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 15 July 2017, 08:23:54
Haha, GMK nearing a SA production backlog. Looking forward to some update next week :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 18 July 2017, 00:02:01
Got the update, it is schedule to ship on 04 AUG. That being said it is now in sorting and packing stage, and no changes can be made.

I will update again once I got the tracking.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: longtran1568 on Tue, 18 July 2017, 00:02:50
Woohoo!! Thanks kekkon :D
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 18 July 2017, 00:48:30
now that is fast.. well done Kekkon
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 18 July 2017, 02:46:54
That's one quick production. Impressive.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: Prelim on Tue, 18 July 2017, 03:13:07
thanks for the update!  ;)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: PoisonKing on Tue, 18 July 2017, 07:14:14
Whoa! Hyped!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: Gouty on Tue, 18 July 2017, 09:54:40
Hey if anyone doesn't need the ISO bits of this kit, let me know and I will gladly buy them off you!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Waiting for production)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 18 July 2017, 11:18:53
Got the update, it is schedule to ship on 04 AUG. That being said it is now in sorting and packing stage, and no changes can be made.

I will update again once I got the tracking.

August will be a bright and shiny month.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: thanhnv244 on Tue, 18 July 2017, 20:47:57
That's fantastic !!!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 21 July 2017, 17:36:46
Just to be thorough, the spreadsheet is missing my x-CMYW kit that I paid for.

Please add it whenever you get a chance :)

So hyped!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 21 July 2017, 17:58:56
Just to be thorough, the spreadsheet is missing my x-CMYW kit that I paid for.

Please add it whenever you get a chance :)

So hyped!!


Where is the link for the spreadsheet? I'd like to check my order as well.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 21 July 2017, 18:07:24

Where is the link for the spreadsheet? I'd like to check my order as well.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87191.msg2347333#msg2347333

Here you go.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 21 July 2017, 18:11:13

Where is the link for the spreadsheet? I'd like to check my order as well.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87191.msg2347333#msg2347333 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87191.msg2347333#msg2347333)

Here you go.


Thank you. My order is fine; but, the color kit has not been included yet.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 24 July 2017, 19:00:11
Are there any R5/F row style caps in this?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 24 July 2017, 19:59:20
Are there any R5/F row style caps in this?


Cherry nomenclature for the rows begins at the bottom row, so if what you mean is R5/A profile, the answer is no. I am not totally sure, but I recall that the bottom row for the 1.5u mods is B profile, the same as the 1.25u mods.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 25 July 2017, 03:23:15
Are there any R5/A row style caps in this?
By the look of the renders, unfortunately, sadly, miserably, somberly, regrettably, no. There's no R5/A in this set, you can tell by the fact there's only one set of arrows, which are most likely R4/B.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: Prelim on Tue, 25 July 2017, 05:04:48
indeed, it's R4 = Profile B
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sorting & Packing stage, ETA mid of August)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 25 July 2017, 07:42:49
I like A profile for a vintage look, but I should recognize that B profile bottom mods are more comfortable for typing, so no regrets not having A profile in this set.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 26 July 2017, 02:16:13
I have just received an update from GMK that the Dolch has been ship out last week, I expect to get them on next month.   :thumb:

I will post update once I get them on hand, cheers.

The shipping form will also be ready in a day for two, should you have any changes on address please fill it up.

I will also include a poll in the form, whether you guys are OK that we strip the plastic wrap on GMK Dolch Tray to slip mods inside to save shipping fees (Down from 2KG to 1KG), which is a lot IMO.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 26 July 2017, 03:54:48
Dolch has been ship out last week, I expect to get them on next month. 
If it's shipped through an express courier, namely DHL, you might get the delivery much faster than that.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 July 2017, 04:50:49
GMK always ship through DHL service, AFAIK  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 26 July 2017, 04:52:04
GMK always ship through DHL service, AFAIK  :thumb:
Well, I get stuff from Asia to Europe in three working days with DHL. I believe the journey lasts the same backwards.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: Petch on Wed, 26 July 2017, 05:20:23
Are these the same colours as the Originative version?

Wondering if I could pick up a few extra keys later on, then mix and match
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: ricyuyc on Wed, 26 July 2017, 05:26:44
Are these the same colours as the Originative version?

Wondering if I could pick up a few extra keys later on, then mix and match
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).

Anyway, I would pay the difference.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 26 July 2017, 06:49:09
Are these the same colours as the Originative version?

Wondering if I could pick up a few extra keys later on, then mix and match
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).

Anyway, I would pay the difference.

Does anyone know if OCO was always using WS1? How about the GB from Ivan?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 July 2017, 06:51:08
Dolch GBs were always CP (white) so far! (Ivan included)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 26 July 2017, 06:59:02
Dolch GBs were always CP (white) so far! (Ivan included)

So OCO, just changed to WS1? I had a mini-heart attack... :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 July 2017, 07:04:50
indeed, for some reason they've change it :/

guess it's ok if you want to use the set as it is, but mixing it with other OG Dolch caps or even other GMK Dolch caps can be problematic.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 July 2017, 07:36:34
Dolch with CP legends is the real thing, any other color legends are just ugly knock-off, even manufactured with the same tooling.  :p
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 26 July 2017, 09:39:13
indeed, for some reason they've change it :/

guess it's ok if you want to use the set as it is, but mixing it with other OG Dolch caps or even other GMK Dolch caps can be problematic.

I was freaking out because I had a set from OCO back in the days and one from Ivan. I wanted to make sure that my keys weren't miss matched. Thank you for your reassurance  :)). I literally looked at my keyboard this morning and looked at the legends. I was like the add-on kit is now useless to me! :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 26 July 2017, 11:00:38
Dolch GBs were always CP (white) so far! (Ivan included)

Why do they use "cream white"?
They couldn't achieve a pure white color back in the days? Or that they have planned for the yellowing of the ABS plastics due to UV related oxidation?
It seems to be nothing was pure white for designs in older era, e.g. Bauhaus, Eames, etc.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 July 2017, 11:52:55
CP was the original "white" color available in Cherry Corp molds AFAIK (used for their OG hellgrau sets). The GMK white WS1 is a more recent color and I think it wasn't even available when GMK started producing doubleshots (after buying Cherry Corp. machinery)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 26 July 2017, 12:02:57
CP was the original "white" color available in Cherry Corp molds AFAIK (used for their OG hellgrau sets). The GMK white WS1 is a more recent color and I think it wasn't even available when GMK started producing doubleshots (after buying Cherry Corp. machinery)

Oh right, I just looked at the old GMK colour chips and WS1 looks like it's a newer addition.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 July 2017, 14:17:53
indeed, for some reason they've change it :/

guess it's ok if you want to use the set as it is, but mixing it with other OG Dolch caps or even other GMK Dolch caps can be problematic.

I was freaking out because I had a set from OCO back in the days and one from Ivan. I wanted to make sure that my keys weren't miss matched. Thank you for your reassurance  :)). I literally looked at my keyboard this morning and looked at the legends. I was like the add-on kit is now useless to me! :confused:

You can always enjoy playing "find the different legends" in your spare time.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: smokemm on Wed, 26 July 2017, 17:55:42
Didnt think this would be finished so quickly!! already shipping from gmk to you on the 4th i guess.. nice!

Just read further down.. Already on its way to you! even better :) super excited. thanks for running this...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 26 July 2017, 20:24:39
The parcel was delivered yesterday, but we only received 10 boxes instead of 12 boxes.  :-X

We have email GMK regarding this and waiting for their reply on this matter, hopefully we can resolve this ASAP.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 July 2017, 20:56:18
The parcel was delivered yesterday, but we only received 10 boxes instead of 12 boxes.  :-X

We have email GMK regarding this and waiting for their reply on this matter, hopefully we can resolve this ASAP.

I hope you get the other two ASAP and it is great to know that you are getting the sets this soon, great.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: mason on Wed, 26 July 2017, 21:01:11
The parcel was delivered yesterday, but we only received 10 boxes instead of 12 boxes.  :-X

We have email GMK regarding this and waiting for their reply on this matter, hopefully we can resolve this ASAP.

I hope they're okay  :'(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: airs on Thu, 27 July 2017, 00:24:39
The parcel was delivered yesterday, but we only received 10 boxes instead of 12 boxes.  :-X

We have email GMK regarding this and waiting for their reply on this matter, hopefully we can resolve this ASAP.



Good to hear you already have most of the shipment! Thanks for the update Kekkon. I'm sure the remaining two boxes will come soon.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 27 July 2017, 03:51:17
The parcel was delivered yesterday
Can we have a sneak peek while we wait for the two missing boxes?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: palindrome on Thu, 27 July 2017, 08:26:44
Quote
Can we have a sneak peek while we wait for the two missing boxes?

Exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: smokemm on Fri, 28 July 2017, 13:36:45
Quote
Can we have a sneak peek while we wait for the two missing boxes?

Exactly what I was thinking.

this and.. maybe start shipping from the orders that were placed first?  :D
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Sent from GMK)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 31 July 2017, 07:59:09
I have created a form for those who need address changes : https://goo.gl/forms/MyOVSB6ys4jrfOYm2 (https://goo.gl/forms/MyOVSB6ys4jrfOYm2)

I can't take any photo now, they are already in another transit, hopefully by this weekend I can share the photo with you.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 03 August 2017, 12:27:10
Man, I just realized that the HHKB add-on kit doesn't have the matching `~ key in the dark gray, only the base set has...argh :(!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: megaforce93 on Thu, 03 August 2017, 12:37:53
love me some kekkon groupbuys
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 04 August 2017, 12:58:27
For those who bought the base set only, anyone willing to part out with the dark gray "`~" key? Willing to pay a nice price for it. PM me!

Edit:

I think I'm good. Thanks for PMing me guys!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 05 August 2017, 11:36:36
The weekend is here and we are waiting for the sneak peak's picture anxiously.

My targeted layout with an upcoming PCB and this Kekkon's super-flexible key set.

(http://i.imgur.com/1ftK6Hw.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 05 August 2017, 13:32:44
The weekend is here and we are waiting for the sneak peak's picture anxiously.

My targeted layout with an upcoming PCB and this Kekkon's super-flexible key set.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1ftK6Hw.png)


What PCB is that? I can endure the Numpad on the left hand side.
Looks like a "Monarch" for Alps.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 05 August 2017, 13:45:57
The weekend is here and we are waiting for the sneak peak's picture anxiously.

My targeted layout with an upcoming PCB and this Kekkon's super-flexible key set.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1ftK6Hw.png)


What PCB is that? I can endure the Numpad on the left hand side.
Looks like a "Monarch" for Alps.


This  (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88951.msg2404853#msg2404853)is in its IC phase now and it is ALPS compatible, as well.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: smokemm on Tue, 08 August 2017, 19:12:03
Any updates on shipping or the missing packages?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:26:39
My friend has received the parcel, and now consolidating the quantity. He will start shipping on this weekend batch by batch.

(http://i.imgur.com/Xf2nF8A.jpg?1)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:55:50
Orgasmic news!!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: smokemm on Wed, 09 August 2017, 12:25:58
Nice! thats great news. Did this include the color kits and TU2 spacebar?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 09 August 2017, 13:58:47
Come to my baby!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: palindrome on Wed, 09 August 2017, 14:06:40
Those look amazing! Can't wait to get them. Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 09 August 2017, 16:03:44
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Xf2nF8A.jpg?1)

That's what I've ordered, very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 12 August 2017, 08:28:26
I am preparing the shipping invoices and details atm...but I got confuse by some address so I am going to sent some PM to get it rectify.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 12 August 2017, 10:31:15
I am preparing the shipping invoices and details atm...but I got confuse by some address so I am going to sent some PM to get it rectify.  :))

Good idea. I know you should be very busy, so you have not had the chance to answer my PMs; but, please do not forget to add a color kit to my order before the final invoice and shipping it.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 12 August 2017, 12:45:59
PM'd Kekkon for shipping instructions.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: poolside on Sat, 12 August 2017, 17:26:00
I have just noticed that the Enter keycap legends from the base set and cyan accent kit are a little bit different. It is shorter on the accent kit. I hope that is only a render mistake :

[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 12 August 2017, 18:43:32
I have just noticed that the Enter keycap legends from the base set and cyan accent kit are a little bit different. It is shorter on the accent kit. I hope that is only a render mistake :

(Attachment Link)

I'd love to get something like that.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Tue, 15 August 2017, 20:46:48
I am waiting for a paypal invoice
Take my money!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: orpheo on Sat, 19 August 2017, 15:46:36
Is there spacebars leftovers?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 20 August 2017, 06:52:41
I want to apologize for MIA so long, I am working on a project related with SEA Games 2017 and had been very busy for last few week.

Initially I plan to send out first batch of shipping invoices by yesterday but I had to deal with some emergency issues that took my weekend away.  :-X

Anyway, I will start sending out invoices batch by batch..if you have any question please PM me, I will try my best to answer them ASAP.

The invoices will include shipping fees, as well as packing material fees for the kits and also extra shipping incurs this time.

GMK is using Dachser to deliver the parcel in a pallet, which is a safer ways to deliver 10 boxes, however, the shipping charges are also more expensive than my previous group buys. We have to pay twice shipping fees, 1 to GMK and 1 to Dachser when they deliver the pallet to the door step.

On the shipping parts, we will be using China Post for countries that doesn't have direct SF Express coverage, while still using SF Express as the main shipping agent.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 20 August 2017, 08:40:05
I want to apologize for MIA so long, I am working on a project related with SEA Games 2017 and had been very busy for last few week.

Initially I plan to send out first batch of shipping invoices by yesterday but I had to deal with some emergency issues that took my weekend away.  :-X

Anyway, I will start sending out invoices batch by batch..if you have any question please PM me, I will try my best to answer them ASAP.

The invoices will include shipping fees, as well as packing material fees for the kits and also extra shipping incurs this time.

GMK is using Dachser to deliver the parcel in a pallet, which is a safer ways to deliver 10 boxes, however, the shipping charges are also more expensive than my previous group buys. We have to pay twice shipping fees, 1 to GMK and 1 to Dachser when they deliver the pallet to the door step.

On the shipping parts, we will be using China Post for countries that doesn't have direct SF Express coverage, while still using SF Express as the main shipping agent.



Shipping invoices? I've already paid for sipping?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: iArson on Sun, 20 August 2017, 14:06:43
What about us that paid for the set you didn't produce. Will we receive the difference in PP

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sun, 20 August 2017, 14:50:19
I believe I already paid the shipping invoice? Unless that was a different cost, or there will be an addition invoice for the difference in final shipping cost vs projected cost.

Either way I am looking forward to getting my add on kit!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 August 2017, 15:47:15
Shipping were not included in the originally payments ever, unless I missed something, it was always clear that shipping were to be charged at time of shipping to assure accuracy in exchange rates and shipping costs.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 20 August 2017, 18:07:19
IIRC shipping was never included in the initial invoice, you were always gonna be invoiced afterwards after the actual shipping cost to your location is calculated.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: iArson on Sun, 20 August 2017, 18:48:49
Yeah but there are some of us who purchased x-CMYW: 130/150

Those of us that paid for it had the option of a refund or it going toward shipping. Thats yet to happen so some of should actually be getting some money back because of this.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 21 August 2017, 09:44:21
Hi, for the CMYW I will refund the different with shipping, you probably won't need to pay shipping for this, if you only have 1 Dolch Icon and other small kits.

(Shipping to USA, 1KG is HKD 180, while CMYW is HKD345+).

I have start to sent out the invoice for USA & South Korea members, others will follow after this.

https://goo.gl/Avq8cr

Hopefully I can send most of these invoices by this weekend.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: bassguy on Mon, 21 August 2017, 11:30:58
Received my invoice -- ouch.  Paid in full!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: autobot on Mon, 21 August 2017, 12:03:32
Ouch! Invoice paid as well.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Mon, 21 August 2017, 18:43:26
If anyone want to sell their spot, LMK!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 21 August 2017, 20:01:25
If anyone want to sell their spot, LMK!

It is sort of doubtful, because this set has some very special features, but, good luck.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: bkw1209 on Tue, 22 August 2017, 08:38:35
Invoice Paid.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: dadoduk on Tue, 22 August 2017, 08:40:40
I Paid!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: jongaynor on Tue, 22 August 2017, 09:56:00
Paid. 2nd time back to the well. Hopefully the last? The initial value of this GB is wearing off.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: baechooboi on Thu, 24 August 2017, 10:38:13
Send me that invoice already and take my money...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: neralo on Thu, 24 August 2017, 22:58:16
I know its a long shot but my love of all things Dolch compels me. If anyone is thinking of backing out please lemme know, I'd love to take over. 
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: palindrome on Fri, 25 August 2017, 11:25:45
Paid. Let me at this set!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: YH YOON on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:06:37
pm
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 27 August 2017, 05:47:51
My work life is busier than I thought, so I didn't manage to send other invoices,I will try to send out more of them later.

Hong Kong and ShenZhen are now hitting by typhoon, heavy rains and storms, so the delivery has been delayed. My friend has ask the courier to come and collect the parcels since last Wednesday but they didn't show up until now.

Hopefully the situation will turn better in this few days so we can start sending out these babies.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 27 August 2017, 07:27:29
This group buy has been having an epic time, even facing storms, though, it will be finally delivered and then the sun will shine over us GB's patient participants.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sun, 27 August 2017, 07:29:08
When I pay for shipping,

Will shipping begin right away?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Wed, 30 August 2017, 11:50:10
My work life is busier than I thought, so I didn't manage to send other invoices,I will try to send out more of them later.

Hong Kong and ShenZhen are now hitting by typhoon, heavy rains and storms, so the delivery has been delayed. My friend has ask the courier to come and collect the parcels since last Wednesday but they didn't show up until now.

Hopefully the situation will turn better in this few days so we can start sending out these babies.

Hi Kekkon, any updates as to when we can expect to get invoices and when the set will be shipped out? I'm anxiously waiting to put Dolch on my LZ CLS!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sun, 03 September 2017, 08:45:53
I understand that you are busy
But it is too late.
You have not logged in since the last 27 days
Is the progress going on?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sun, 03 September 2017, 10:09:28
Still no shipping invoice, just waiting to hear from this GB
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Sun, 03 September 2017, 10:54:06
This is getting a bit slow...  :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: smokemm on Sun, 03 September 2017, 14:20:53
Still waiting for the shipping invoice.

Also moving soon - is it possible to update my shipping address?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sun, 03 September 2017, 16:11:10
Still waiting for the shipping invoice.

Also moving soon - is it possible to update my shipping address?

I have created a form for those who need address changes : https://goo.gl/forms/MyOVSB6ys4jrfOYm2 (https://goo.gl/forms/MyOVSB6ys4jrfOYm2)

I can't take any photo now, they are already in another transit, hopefully by this weekend I can share the photo with you.  :thumb:

It's in the title of the thread mate =P
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 04 September 2017, 12:33:14
My work life is busier than I thought, so I didn't manage to send other invoices,I will try to send out more of them later.

Hong Kong and ShenZhen are now hitting by typhoon, heavy rains and storms, so the delivery has been delayed. My friend has ask the courier to come and collect the parcels since last Wednesday but they didn't show up until now.

Hopefully the situation will turn better in this few days so we can start sending out these babies.

Hope kekkon and his colleagues are doing fine. It seems to me that the storm has gone:

http://www.hko.gov.hk/m/satellite.htm
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 05 September 2017, 11:18:11
paid up - thanks =]
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:01:19
paid up - thanks =]


Has Kekkon resume the invoicing?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: longtran1568 on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:03:00
Just paid for shipping. I think we need another update on shipping date
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:05:42
paid up - thanks =]


Has Kekkon resume the invoicing?

Looks like it - the spreadsheet has a lot more entries in the invoiced column.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:20:59
paid up - thanks =]


Has Kekkon resume the invoicing?

Looks like it - the spreadsheet has a lot more entries in the invoiced column.


Awesome!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:33:01
Shipping will start this week, but the shipping sequence was on my friend...so I don't know what is the sequence, anyway we target to ship all parcel before 30 SEPT, for those parcel we fail to ship out before that, we will bear the shipping fees for it and refund the shipping fees.

I have refund most of the CMYW orders, with around 20 left..I will resume by tomorrow together with other leftout shipping invoices today.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:51:02
Also, I am looking for EURO proxy if possible since this time there are many EURO orders but the shipping fees IMO is quite expensive, I am not sure if a EURO Proxy can help to save some shipping cost(?), if anyone got experience on this, please PM me.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: baechooboi on Tue, 05 September 2017, 14:29:47
Shipping will start this week, but the shipping sequence was on my friend...so I don't know what is the sequence, anyway we target to ship all parcel before 30 SEPT, for those parcel we fail to ship out before that, we will bear the shipping fees for it and refund the shipping fees.

I have refund most of the CMYW orders, with around 20 left..I will resume by tomorrow together with other leftout shipping invoices today.



Kekkon - Noob question here, so thanks in advance for replying.  Is the total $ HKD in the spreadsheet supposed to equal out to the total $ HKD I've paid so far?  The spreadsheet says my order was for $1422.35 HKD but my first invoice from March was for $1480.68 HKD and the second invoice on the shipping top-up/FX issue from May was another $82.79 HKD.

I am suspecting the PayPal invoices include (some FX fluctuation + PayPal fees +shipping from GMK to HK) and the amount in the spreadsheet doesn't?

Thanks for your answer on this, kinda got me curious, but with the additional invoice and x-CMYW still not refunded, this one's little confusing.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Tue, 05 September 2017, 14:34:33
Still interested to pick up a order if anyone wanna get rid of/sell their spot.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 05 September 2017, 16:27:33
Paid the shipping, although my invoice mentioned a colour kit I didn't order? Still, wouldn't have made much of a difference.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 05 September 2017, 19:44:54
Paid the shipping, although my invoice mentioned a colour kit I didn't order? Still, wouldn't have made much of a difference.

Same here...paid it anyways so there are no more delays.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 06 September 2017, 01:35:38
Shipping will start this week, but the shipping sequence was on my friend...so I don't know what is the sequence, anyway we target to ship all parcel before 30 SEPT, for those parcel we fail to ship out before that, we will bear the shipping fees for it and refund the shipping fees.

I have refund most of the CMYW orders, with around 20 left..I will resume by tomorrow together with other leftout shipping invoices today.



Kekkon - Noob question here, so thanks in advance for replying.  Is the total $ HKD in the spreadsheet supposed to equal out to the total $ HKD I've paid so far?  The spreadsheet says my order was for $1422.35 HKD but my first invoice from March was for $1480.68 HKD and the second invoice on the shipping top-up/FX issue from May was another $82.79 HKD.

I am suspecting the PayPal invoices include (some FX fluctuation + PayPal fees +shipping from GMK to HK) and the amount in the spreadsheet doesn't?

Thanks for your answer on this, kinda got me curious, but with the additional invoice and x-CMYW still not refunded, this one's little confusing.

The spreadsheet didn't include the 4.6% fees from Paypal, the second is because of the sudden fluctuation on HKD to EURO(From 8.5 to 8.85) and my mistake on calculation of Paypal fees(4.1% instead of 4.6%).

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: longtran1568 on Wed, 06 September 2017, 01:44:13
Paid the shipping, although my invoice mentioned a colour kit I didn't order? Still, wouldn't have made much of a difference.

Same here...paid it anyways so there are no more delays.

Same here weird but I also think it doesn't make much different.


Kekkon could you comment on this?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 06 September 2017, 05:03:17
My invoice is a template with all item included, I will manually change their quantity when billing different invoices...probably I forget to change the quantity to 0 for some kits, really sorry about this.  :-X
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: baechooboi on Wed, 06 September 2017, 11:53:23
Kekkon - I am sure there's a number of participants on this GB quietly wondering why s/he has not received the refund on the x-CMYW and/or the invoice for the shipping.  I've heard the rhetoric from the "exalted elders" and "experienced veterans" on "how GB works" and "the GB guidelines/policies", so I am trying best not to offend you/cross the line here.

Some people may be inherently more patient than I am, and good for them, but it's not wildly aggressive to ask for an update after acquiescing to news sequence on this GB that's been nothing but unfavorable turn of events: "shipping price higher than expected->PayPal fee calculation mistake->unfavorable fluctuation to the FX rate->GMK rep on vacation->10 out of 12 boxes arrived so 2 are missing so still waiting (THIS WAS IN JULY)->swamped with South East Asian Games project (???)->Hurricane->Busy worklife(???)->Actually a friend is shipping so don't know the shipping sequence->I have about 20 more refunds/invoices remaining will resume tomorrow (this was posted 9/5 which was already after weeks of lead time)"...I understand that your revised timeline suggests completion of GB in Sep/Oct and you will offer free shipping if shipped after 9/30...So if I receive a shipment notice 3 weeks later, I should be just content when I already know this had been sitting in your room for two solid months?...I mean...Is my frustration completely groundless and without merit? I get that it is what it is, but rather than a promise of free shipping with a 3-week buffer, I'd prefer a solid promise on a date.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: adamcobabe on Thu, 07 September 2017, 05:28:36
Paid ...for a third time.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Thu, 07 September 2017, 21:48:56
Kekkon - I am sure there's a number of participants on this GB quietly wondering why s/he has not received the refund on the x-CMYW and/or the invoice for the shipping.  I've heard the rhetoric from the "exalted elders" and "experienced veterans" on "how GB works" and "the GB guidelines/policies", so I am trying best not to offend you/cross the line here, but, there is still a number of people who have not heard on the x-CMYW kit refund and the shipping invoice.

Some people may be inherently more patient than I am, and good for them, but it's not wildly aggressive to ask for an update after acquiescing to news sequence on this GB that's been nothing but unfavorable turn of events: "shipping price higher than expected->PayPal fee calculation mistake->unfavorable fluctuation to the FX rate->GMK rep on vacation->10 out of 12 boxes arrived so 2 are missing so still waiting (THIS WAS IN JULY)->swamped with South East Asian Games project (???)->Hurricane->Busy worklife(???)->Actually a friend is shipping so don't know the shipping sequence->I have about 20 more refunds/invoices remaining will resume tomorrow (this was posted 9/5 which was already after weeks of lead time)"...I understand that your revised timeline suggests completion of GB in Sep/Oct and you will offer free shipping if shipped after 9/30...So if I receive a shipment notice 3 weeks later, I should be just content when I already know this had been sitting in your room for two solid months?...I mean...Is my frustration completely groundless and without merit? I get that it is what it is, but rather than a promise of free shipping with a 3-week buffer, I'd prefer a solid promise on a date.


i agree!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 08 September 2017, 10:09:00
Do I have to pay again? I thought that not getting refund for x-CMYW paid for shipping???
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: baechooboi on Fri, 08 September 2017, 11:03:56
Do I have to pay again? I thought that not getting refund for x-CMYW paid for shipping???

This type of confusion is precisely what I was whining about...If I am reading the Google spreadsheet correctly, your shipping invoice has neither been "paid" nor "sent", so you are one of 40ish people in the purgatory...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Fri, 08 September 2017, 11:11:51
Was all kits produce? I see some say the got refund for the CMYW?

Also, i just got a spot in this GB. Is anyone who bought the add-on kit willing to sell keys needed for 1800 layout? Mainly looking for:
R1: delete, end, PgDn
R2: (-)
R3: (+)
R4: 0 (either normal "0" or "00")

I would also be interested if someone dont want the whole add-on kit (and 1 icon pack)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: gojira54 on Fri, 08 September 2017, 11:15:37
@avid - I don't want all the add on kit but I would like the windows key from the main pack if we can trade once everything's received? Give me a PM ;)
Waiting patiently here  :p
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: VersaceTornado on Fri, 08 September 2017, 13:03:54
Paid! Nothing left to do now but wait  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 September 2017, 14:31:37
This set is so complete that waiting a bit longer does not make me to regret anything, it worth any minute; think on this, it is a set that will outlast you and would be pass to your generations to come, so waiting a few weeks more is nothing compare with all the years of service it will give to you.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Sat, 09 September 2017, 11:43:22
Kekkon is making progress - I just got a refund for x-CMYW minus shipping.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Sat, 09 September 2017, 12:40:18
If anyone want to cancel their order, id happily take over it:
-icon
-add-on kit
-spacebar (cc)
-color kit
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: smokemm on Sat, 09 September 2017, 15:25:09
Shipping invoice paid!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: YH YOON on Sat, 09 September 2017, 19:05:18
Shipping invoice please  ^-^
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 00:30:06
Can't wait for tracking number  :( :( :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 10 September 2017, 02:23:55
By the look of the spreadsheet, kekkon has less than thirty invoices to send. We're almost there.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 10 September 2017, 05:22:30
Thanks Kekkon and his friend. Invoice received and paid.

Finger-crossed that this group-buy will all be fine and Kekkon is making some GMK Dolch history and will have good karma in GH for a long long time.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 September 2017, 08:10:31
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 08:14:44
Oh my oh my, some of you guys just had tracking number  :eek: :eek: ahhhhhhh I can't wait  :-X :-X
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 10 September 2017, 19:14:14
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.

Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 September 2017, 19:23:27
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.

Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme


Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 10 September 2017, 20:25:30
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.

Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme


Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.

The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 11 September 2017, 08:54:52
I'm guessing it's too late to get in on this?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 September 2017, 09:35:54
I'm guessing it's too late to get in on this?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk


The GB's order period has closed many weeks ago. Although, you may try to get a drop out order. It is unlikely, but still a possibility.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: baechooboi on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:38:06
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.

Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme


Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.

The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose...  :rolleyes:

This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:56:58
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.

Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme


Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.

The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose...  :rolleyes:

This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL

Haha likewise man, such a funny misunderstanding  :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 September 2017, 12:10:28
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.

Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme


Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.

The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose...  ::)

This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL

Haha likewise man, such a funny misunderstanding  :))


But font is black in my end. Ashame of the confusion, though. There was no way I can get it.  :( 
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: baechooboi on Mon, 11 September 2017, 12:44:33
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.

Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme


Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.

The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose...  ::)

This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL

Haha likewise man, such a funny misunderstanding  :))


But font is black in my end. Ashame of the confusion, though. There was no way I can get it.  :(

No worries buddy, this thread needed a good comic relief anyway.  Fun times!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 September 2017, 12:45:45
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.

Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme


Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.

The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose...  ::)

This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL

Haha likewise man, such a funny misunderstanding  :))


But font is black in my end. Ashame of the confusion, though. There was no way I can get it.  :(

No worries buddy, this thread needed a good comic relief anyway.  Fun times!


You're right.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Mon, 11 September 2017, 21:43:19
What's a good site to use to track these shipments?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Mon, 11 September 2017, 21:53:13
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X7nK7C2ID_mm__e4RZlJ3uSnycIxlLL8V2hWc7PbgHY/edit#gid=0

You can find it in the R column of the Excel chart
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: IAmPyhrra on Mon, 11 September 2017, 22:08:27
Hey Kekkon, just sent you a pm'd. PP email changed.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Tue, 12 September 2017, 07:09:13
still waiting for my invoice  :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 12 September 2017, 07:34:56
Well, my keyboard is ready. Don't make it wait too much.  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/qHUrEmy.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 14 September 2017, 10:57:24
PM'd, kekkon.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Thu, 14 September 2017, 12:04:09
Anyone been able to track their shipment? Mine just keeps saying not found :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 14 September 2017, 12:11:19
Anyone been able to track their shipment? Mine just keeps saying not found :(

Same, I'm guessing the label has been made, but awaiting to drop off the package.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: baechooboi on Thu, 14 September 2017, 14:16:16
Anyone been able to track their shipment? Mine just keeps saying not found :(

Same, I'm guessing the label has been made, but awaiting to drop off the package.

Ditto. I'm just glad Kekkon got to making the labels though...
I kinda knew "shipping out" last week wasn't realistic considering the rate of progress hitherto.
As aside, if you have an SF tracking, that image puzzle verification to prove that you are human is real freakin' pain. LOL
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: r5d on Fri, 15 September 2017, 03:38:24
Well, I paid for shipping a week ago and nobody has updated the spreadsheet yet to reflect that..

Got it, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: baechooboi on Fri, 15 September 2017, 20:50:26
...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Fri, 15 September 2017, 21:12:40
my tracking number is RTS

what is mean?

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Fri, 15 September 2017, 21:46:07
Now my tracking number is gone and replaced with RTS...huh?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: YH YOON on Fri, 15 September 2017, 22:50:21
pm'd

 :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Sat, 16 September 2017, 10:10:27
A lot of tracking numbers are up now.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 16 September 2017, 10:18:32
Well, my keyboard is ready. Don't make it wait too much.  ;)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qHUrEmy.jpg)


Curious. I though Filco keyboards come with Costar stabs. Is this a Phantom PCB and plate in a Filco case?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 16 September 2017, 11:04:17
Well, my keyboard is ready. Don't make it wait too much.  ;)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qHUrEmy.jpg)


Curious. I though Filco keyboards come with Costar stabs. Is this a Phantom PCB and plate in a Filco case?
A PCB I made with custom plate in a Filco case.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 16 September 2017, 11:52:39
By know, I began feeling disappointed with the delays on getting the set. Even more, considering that sets are already on OP's hands.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Sat, 16 September 2017, 11:56:58
IMHO these delays are not normal, sets already arrived more a month ago :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 16 September 2017, 12:20:44
Should we be alerted already?

What is the period of PayPal protection - has it already expired?

Edit: Found the tracking number of my order!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Sat, 16 September 2017, 12:50:19
GUYS! Check the google doc, almost all orders have been shipped.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: mindxthinker on Sat, 16 September 2017, 12:53:43
What does RTS to SF means?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 16 September 2017, 13:17:31
Should we be alerted already?
kekkon has been running Dolch Reborn as well and some people actually received it. I guess we should not worry.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 16 September 2017, 13:23:52
Should we be alerted already?
kekkon has been running Dolch Reborn as well and some people actually received it. I guess we should not worry.


I agree that we will get our sets, though, not yet and maybe not as quickly as we would like.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: rmearns on Sat, 16 September 2017, 13:26:50
\_(_)_/
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sat, 16 September 2017, 16:51:02
Tracking numbers can be found at https://17track.net/en
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 16 September 2017, 17:44:31
pm sent.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: hoanglh94 on Sun, 17 September 2017, 03:32:58
pm sent too :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 18 September 2017, 04:26:28
Hi guys, check your tracking number.

My tracking number works now. It's in transit to Finland  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: thanhnv244 on Mon, 18 September 2017, 04:56:59
Hi guys, check your tracking number.

My tracking number works now. It's in transit to Finland  :thumb:

Most RR and L...CN work. But my RG isn't  :( still waiting for a site can check RG  :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:26:01
My friend finally found a cheaper and proper shipping solutions after weeks of finding.

I will start sending out invoices to those had yet to received, and will refund the difference to those already paid for this, it should be a few dollar cheaper to around $8 cheaper for EURO countries like Germany, Sweden & etc. (FROM >$28 to around $20).

We target to all ship all orders out by the weekend, sorry for the waiting, but I personally feel this is more acceptable price for shipping fees.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:28:17
My friend finally found a cheaper and proper shipping solutions after weeks of finding.

I will start sending out invoices to those had yet to received, and will refund the difference to those already paid for this, it should be a few dollar cheaper to around $8 cheaper for EURO countries like Germany, Sweden & etc. (FROM >$28 to around $20).

We target to all ship all orders out by the weekend, sorry for the waiting, but I personally feel this is more acceptable price for shipping fees.

It is very good news. Thank you for all the hard work.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:29:07
Very much looking forward to my order. Thanks kekkon  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:29:36
Hi guys, check your tracking number.

My tracking number works now. It's in transit to Finland  :thumb:

Most RR and L...CN work. But my RG isn't  :( still waiting for a site can check RG  :(

For Thailand and Vietnam, it is using another tracking system, I am waiting for my friend reply on this, will update you later.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:34:21
There is a "google" of tracking, that basically tracks everything.
Just paste your tracking number after the / in this link:
https://track.aftership.com/instant/

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Mon, 18 September 2017, 08:12:33
I sent you a message
Please answer me
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 18 September 2017, 08:38:31
Just got (and paid) my shipping fees. Thanks for making this happen, kekkon.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: hoanglh94 on Mon, 18 September 2017, 08:48:29
Hi guys, check your tracking number.

My tracking number works now. It's in transit to Finland  :thumb:

Most RR and L...CN work. But my RG isn't  :( still waiting for a site can check RG  :(

For Thailand and Vietnam, it is using another tracking system, I am waiting for my friend reply on this, will update you later.

Please check my payment. I have paid the shipping more than a week ago :D
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 18 September 2017, 12:06:12
Invoice paid. Thank you very much for making this a reality.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: rmearns on Mon, 18 September 2017, 18:46:52
paid! :D
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: jdos on Tue, 19 September 2017, 19:38:16
I sent email!!! please answer the question.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Wed, 20 September 2017, 12:48:22
(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)

Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 20 September 2017, 13:40:53
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)


Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)

OMG OMG OMG!!!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: baechooboi on Wed, 20 September 2017, 17:04:01
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)


Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)

WTF! OMFG! THOSE ARE BEAUTIFUL! THANKS KEKKON!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 20 September 2017, 17:42:49
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)


Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)


Wow! It is a great key set.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Thu, 21 September 2017, 07:45:31
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)


Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)

meanwhile, Indonesian buyers are still waiting for our shipping invoices  :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: poolside on Thu, 21 September 2017, 14:46:07
My invoice is a template with all item included, I will manually change their quantity when billing different invoices...probably I forget to change the quantity to 0 for some kits, really sorry about this.  :-X

Hi Kekkon, my PayPal is ready but my shipping invoice is missing the extra spacebars kits I ordered.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Thu, 21 September 2017, 15:03:07
My invoice is a template with all item included, I will manually change their quantity when billing different invoices...probably I forget to change the quantity to 0 for some kits, really sorry about this.  :-X

Hi Kekkon, my PayPal is ready but my shipping invoice is missing the extra spacebars kits I ordered.
lol, same here, I didn't even noticed and I've already paid.  :eek:
No tracking number yet, though.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Thu, 21 September 2017, 15:14:52
I already asked this, got this response: "CC spacebars is by default included in the base already."
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 21 September 2017, 15:51:22
I already asked this, got this response: "CC spacebars is by default included in the base already."


This paragraph is copied from the OP. See item 2.


Description:1. All kits come with Trays, while space bars set will be shrink wrap.2. The base sets doesn't come with space bars, please remember to buy 1.  3. All the kits have a MOQ of 150. Hopefully we can do it.  4. Color used:Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, CP, RO2, N5, DY, AE
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: poolside on Thu, 21 September 2017, 16:23:17
I already asked this, got this response: "CC spacebars is by default included in the base already."

This paragraph is copied from the OP. See item 2.

Description:1. All kits come with Trays, while space bars set will be shrink wrap.2. The base sets doesn't come with space bars, please remember to buy 1.  3. All the kits have a MOQ of 150. Hopefully we can do it.  4. Color used:Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, CP, RO2, N5, DY, AE

I already asked this, got this response: "CC spacebars is by default included in the base already."

Damn, I totally forgot about this. Thanks  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Fri, 22 September 2017, 06:41:55
@kekkon, please check pm I've sent days ago ;) thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 22 September 2017, 07:22:44
Same. ^

^...^
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Fri, 22 September 2017, 12:19:56
Anyone in the US received their set?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 22 September 2017, 13:04:43
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)


Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)

Is the empty space in the middle of the add-on kit blister pack for a BAE? It is the only key this set is missing.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: e900ee on Sun, 24 September 2017, 10:08:34
Hi Kekkon, check my tracking number. plz.
Is there something wrong with my package?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Sputnik on Sun, 24 September 2017, 13:17:11
Hi everybody, I missed this one (3 years of absence....)
Any left over???? https://geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/grin.gif
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 24 September 2017, 15:25:53
No tracking number yet!


(https://i.imgur.com/amkPTJq.gif)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 24 September 2017, 16:03:49
Got mine yesterday, Thanks kekkon  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Sun, 24 September 2017, 16:44:32
Got mine yesterday, Thanks kekkon  :thumb:

Where do you live?

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 24 September 2017, 16:50:27
Got mine yesterday, Thanks kekkon  :thumb:

First served fellows are obligated to post pictures of their sets.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 24 September 2017, 17:26:04

Where do you live?


Southeast Asia - Thailand  ^-^


First served fellows are obligated to post pictures of their sets.

Here we go  :))

(https://i.imgur.com/i4ew5cS.jpg)

*changed photo cause bad white balance
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 24 September 2017, 20:19:52

Where do you live?


Southeast Asia - Thailand  ^-^


First served fellows are obligated to post pictures of their sets.

Here we go  :))

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i4ew5cS.jpg)


*changed photo cause bad white balance


Not add-on kit? Gee!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sun, 24 September 2017, 23:41:46
On Sunday I finally got it !

i live in South Korea

(https://i.imgur.com/9sYqPje.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: thanhnv244 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 00:23:05
On Sunday I finally got it !

i live in South Korea

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9sYqPje.jpg)


I'm so jealous right now
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Mykii22 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 00:23:08
Got mine on Saturday! California US
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170925/3251951dfcb1dccab5c28a223c22a1ad.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170925/6d79816d139f642591e039d5b6c12d8b.jpg)

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 01:26:09
Patiently waiting for my package to arrive in cold, dark Finland :D
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Mon, 25 September 2017, 01:42:01
My package still says Processed Through Facility GUANGZHOU EMS, CHINA. Hasn't changed since the 17th :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 September 2017, 02:00:01
My package still says Processed Through Facility GUANGZHOU EMS, CHINA. Hasn't changed since the 17th :(

chuck it into 17track, you might get a USPS tracking no. if it's been handed over
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 25 September 2017, 06:27:07
Ahhh.. SO THATS what's being delivered today from China :)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 25 September 2017, 09:27:38
All small kits only order should have been gone out, except for magenta spacebars, my friend forget to include them so the MG1 spacebars will be sent out from China separately.

Those with bases will slowly goes out before end of the month, my friend got some personal issues to settle out on the weekend, sorry for this.

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 September 2017, 09:41:35
Thank you for the update and best wishes to your friend.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 25 September 2017, 10:20:24
@kekkon, can you please check my latest pm? it seems to be a problem with my invoice :/ Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:07:16
Not add-on kit? Gee!

ikr, I'm so dumb  :'(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:22:37
Not add-on kit? Gee!

ikr, I'm so dumb  :'(

Sorry pal. Did not want to make you feeling bad.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:43:07
My caps just turned up today, I'm in the UK so you EU peeps out there hold tight, your set will probably be with you soon!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 14:00:30
My caps just turned up today, I'm in the UK so you EU peeps out there hold tight, your set will probably be with you soon!

No pic? Come on
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: youno89 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 18:15:22
I've got a package but does not include x-CMYW.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Mon, 25 September 2017, 18:21:20
I've got a package but does not include x-CMYW.

x-CMYW didn't make MOQ so it wasn't made.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 26 September 2017, 08:12:15
I've got a package but does not include x-CMYW.

CMYW did not get produced. If you followed the thread you would already know this. Also you should already have received a partial refund (minus shipping fees)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 26 September 2017, 10:42:27
Nice to get the correct legends at last for kb - thanks for running this =]

(https://preview.ibb.co/hY10pQ/jhgfxhjgfx.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mXDrw5)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: mindxthinker on Tue, 26 September 2017, 11:35:27
Does anyone know how to track down below tracking number?

SF953262080759

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Tue, 26 September 2017, 11:46:21
My shipment still has no updates since the 17th: GUANGZHOU EMS, CHINA.

Should I be worried? :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PutDownTheKeycap on Tue, 26 September 2017, 15:30:20
Does anyone know how to track down below tracking number?

SF953262080759

17track works if you remove the SF prefix: https://www.17track.net/en/track?nums=953262080759
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 28 September 2017, 13:55:26
communication on this is getting slow and slower, I'm still waiting response from @kekkon since 3 days ago :/

Shipping will start this week, but the shipping sequence was on my friend...so I don't know what is the sequence, anyway we target to ship all parcel before 30 SEPT, for those parcel we fail to ship out before that, we will bear the shipping fees for it and refund the shipping fees.

seems like many orders are going to be sent out after 30/Sep as well, aren't we going to pay for the shipping?

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 28 September 2017, 14:15:22
What does check mean in the tracking number field (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 28 September 2017, 14:29:14
What does check mean in the tracking number field (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)?

I have the same. No idea what is it.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:00:38
The tracking info stuck at 20-09-2017, when it was still in China.

Will there be problem the packages are stuck in German custom again, but the system was not able to show?

I recently have lost another package in the process of being held by the German custom again (from MassDrop), totally not able to track after a certain stage.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:09:23
The tracking info stuck at 20-09-2017, when it was still in China.

Will there be problem the packages are stuck in German custom again, but the system was not able to show?

I recently have lost another package in the process of being held by the German custom again (from MassDrop), totally not able to track after a certain stage.
Haha, tell me about it (different item but from the same region)
(http://puu.sh/xLd55/0d4b400903.png)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: HappyCatFish on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:32:26
My keycaps arrived! They look great and I am overall very pleased with the GB!

Thanks Kekkon <3
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:46:28
If anyone want to sell / transfer their order, please hit me up!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: neon_tom on Thu, 28 September 2017, 17:59:27
What does check mean in the tracking number field (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)?

Im curious about this as well.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 03:58:14
What does check mean in the tracking number field (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)?

Im curious about this as well.
It has been updated with tracking numbers, I guess it was meant to check what was ordered before packing it up.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 07:48:48
Since we're at it, how long did it take for you european buyers to deliver?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 29 September 2017, 10:01:45
Since we're at it, how long did it take for you european buyers to deliver?
Mine arrived yesterday.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 12:28:34
Since we're at it, how long did it take for you european buyers to deliver?
Mine arrived yesterday.
When was it shipped?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 29 September 2017, 17:18:36
Since we're at it, how long did it take for you european buyers to deliver?
Mine arrived yesterday.
When was it shipped?
Dunno. Can't recall which date the sheet was updated with a tracking no for my order. About two weeks ago if I have to guess. Never got a shipping notification either.

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 17:26:26
More
Since we're at it, how long did it take for you european buyers to deliver?
Mine arrived yesterday.
When was it shipped?

Dunno. Can't recall which date the sheet was updated with a tracking no for my order. About two weeks ago if I have to guess. Never got a shipping notification either.
Alright, thanks for the info. I guess no one actually got a shipping notification at all.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sat, 30 September 2017, 03:15:49
Got mine today and realised that base kit is included scooped  F/J only :( feel so dump not order Icon pack now  :(

I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sat, 30 September 2017, 10:51:11
Got mine today and realised that base kit is included scooped  F/J only :( feel so dump not order Icon pack now  :(

I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon  :thumb:

Not sure if they ship to Vietnam but https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j (https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j) has a small add-on kit that will help you.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 30 September 2017, 11:05:24
Got mine today and realised that base kit is included scooped  F/J only :( feel so dump not order Icon pack now  :(

I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon  :thumb:

Not sure if they ship to Vietnam but https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j (https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j) has a small add-on kit that will help you.


For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sat, 30 September 2017, 11:24:10
For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.

I have the keycaps from Originative and a set of Ivan's dolch, and the legends match well iirc. I can check when I get home today and post a side by side of Ivan's, Kekkon's, and Originative's caps.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 30 September 2017, 11:46:28
For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.

I have the keycaps from Originative and a set of Ivan's dolch, and the legends match well iirc. I can check when I get home today and post a side by side of Ivan's, Kekkon's, and Originative's caps.


That would be the definitive evidence for color matching. Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:05:07
Got mine today and realised that base kit is included scooped  F/J only :( feel so dump not order Icon pack now  :(

I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon  :thumb:

Not sure if they ship to Vietnam but https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j (https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j) has a small add-on kit that will help you.


For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.
IIRC the FJ Addon from Originative uses L9 CP legends, only their newest Dolch set has WS1 legends.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:42:42
Got mine today and realised that base kit is included scooped  F/J only :( feel so dump not order Icon pack now  :(

I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon  :thumb:

Not sure if they ship to Vietnam but https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j (https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j) has a small add-on kit that will help you.


For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.
IIRC the FJ Addon from Originative uses L9 legends, only their newest Dolch set has WS1 legends.

Originative's new Dolch set does not match its own Add-on? Interesting way to "serve" its customers.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:55:50
I do have Originative FJ addon and I just double checked and it matches perfectly my Dolch set from zFrontier which had CP legends, like this one from Kekkon.

Originative's new Dolch set does not match its own Add-on? Interesting way to "serve" its customers.
I believe it matched their own previous releases of Dolch, but if it's true that now they use WS1, then it doesn't match the current one. And it doesn't need to, the newer set already has barred FJ keys included in the base set.

Originative is trying variations of their sets, like the new redux version of Hyperfuse. I actually like that they are trying to improve them.
 
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:58:14
Sorry, double post.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 30 September 2017, 14:34:02
I do have Originative FJ addon and I just double checked and it matches perfectly my Dolch set from zFrontier which had CP legends, like this one from Kekkon.

Originative's new Dolch set does not match its own Add-on? Interesting way to "serve" its customers.
I believe it matched their own previous releases of Dolch, but if it's true that now they use WS1, then it doesn't match the current one. And it doesn't need to, the newer set already has barred FJ keys included in the base set.

Originative is trying variations of their sets, like the new redux version of Hyperfuse. I actually like that they are trying to improve them.


A classic is preserved or restored, but not "improved". Yet, I can see your point.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 30 September 2017, 18:57:02
Addons arrived today. Thank you for running this :) My Dolch now covers most layouts I can think of.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sat, 30 September 2017, 23:39:10
Here are some side-by-side photos of different runs of GMK dolch

(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Y6IGOmi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KecwOPF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yGvuWbO.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 September 2017, 23:41:12
Here are some side-by-side photos of different runs of GMK dolch

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(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6IGOmi.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KecwOPF.jpg)


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(https://i.imgur.com/yGvuWbO.jpg)


might be the light but they look basically the same colorwise to me
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 October 2017, 00:40:33
Here are some side-by-side photos of different runs of GMK dolch

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(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6IGOmi.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KecwOPF.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yGvuWbO.jpg)


Endeavour explained that only the last Originative Dolch set's legends were altered to WS1, what you have should still be L9, that is why they look the same.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 01 October 2017, 04:38:11
Here are some side-by-side photos of different runs of GMK dolch

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(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6IGOmi.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KecwOPF.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yGvuWbO.jpg)


Endeavour explained that only the last Originative Dolch set's legends were altered to WS1, what you have should still be L9, that is why they look the same.

L9? I thought proper Dolch alphas colour was CP
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 01 October 2017, 05:05:24
nvm...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 01 October 2017, 15:22:04
Here are some side-by-side photos of different runs of GMK dolch

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(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)



Wow... the F and J look very different!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 02 October 2017, 13:00:30
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171002/b0521129ce31034cc05b9e7f93b25f0c.jpg)

Finland, package arrived :D
Thanks kekkon and everyone involved!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 October 2017, 13:47:26
I like to see pictures, keep them coming.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: airs on Mon, 02 October 2017, 18:52:32
Finally arrived! :)

(https://i.imgur.com/WzecZSO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MbBl9wn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iaNWnNv.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Mon, 02 October 2017, 18:54:37
Dolch on grey is one of the best combos. Gorgeous! :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 October 2017, 21:21:05
Finally arrived! :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/WzecZSO.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MbBl9wn.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iaNWnNv.jpg)


nice
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: theillumedpanda on Tue, 03 October 2017, 04:45:05
Finally arrived! :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/WzecZSO.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MbBl9wn.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iaNWnNv.jpg)

Very nice!

If there are any leftovers or if someone is interested in transfering, I'd be happy to take it.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 October 2017, 07:59:30
The Icon modifiers look awesome.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 04 October 2017, 09:50:37
I just received my package, and I got an Add-on kit instead of the color kit that I ordered. I PM'd Kekkon but he has been offline for a week, so I doubt he'll answer. What do you guys think I should do?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 04 October 2017, 09:54:22
I just received my package, and I got an Add-on kit instead of the color kit that I ordered. I PM'd Kekkon but he has been offline for a week, so I doubt he'll answer. What do you guys think I should do?
Wait and see who has got mixed orders like yours.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 05 October 2017, 03:31:10
Thanks Kekkon!!! Kudos to you and everyone involved!!!

They are here and without German custom complications (a MassDrop package of mine a few days ago was declared "undeliverable" and returned to the US...)

Proof that they are real:
(https://i.imgur.com/DCra2ah.jpg)

Now I need a keyboard that fits them...  :p
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 October 2017, 13:51:51
Thanks Kekkon!!! Kudos to you and everyone involved!!!

They are here and without German custom complications (a MassDrop package of mine a few days ago was declared "undeliverable" and returned to the US...)

Proof that they are real:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DCra2ah.jpg)


Now I need a keyboard that fits them...  :p


This  (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.msg2500995#msg2500995)may fit the bill?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 05 October 2017, 19:48:13
Got mine!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 06 October 2017, 01:47:03
Thanks Kekkon!!! Kudos to you and everyone involved!!!

They are here and without German custom complications (a MassDrop package of mine a few days ago was declared "undeliverable" and returned to the US...)

Proof that they are real:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DCra2ah.jpg)


Now I need a keyboard that fits them...  :p


This  (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.msg2500995#msg2500995)may fit the bill?

All good until I read that they sports a Type-C... Why?
Hope they'll be competitively priced.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 October 2017, 07:30:34
Thanks Kekkon!!! Kudos to you and everyone involved!!!

They are here and without German custom complications (a MassDrop package of mine a few days ago was declared "undeliverable" and returned to the US...)

Proof that they are real:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DCra2ah.jpg)


Now I need a keyboard that fits them...  :p


This  (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.msg2500995#msg2500995)may fit the bill?

All good until I read that they sports a Type-C... Why?
Hope they'll be competitively priced.


I do not like it either and I concur that pricing might be an issue. There is no reason to ask for higher price than prototype, which, because of learning curve and development is by definition of higher price.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: popkorn62 on Sun, 08 October 2017, 01:51:54
Thank you kekkon, everything is here! I actually forgot i joined this gb and was pleasantly surprised
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 09 October 2017, 03:28:16
@kekkon did you see my pms? I'm still waiting a response since 25 September (more than 2 weeks ago) :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Wed, 11 October 2017, 03:01:23
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 11 October 2017, 04:10:10
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)


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I got mine yesterday. I didn't get cyan spacebars kit?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Wed, 11 October 2017, 04:23:45
Anyone with add-on kit whos interested in selling the R1 delete/end/pgdn and the 0.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 11 October 2017, 16:40:30
Anyone with add-on kit whos interested in selling the R1 delete/end/pgdn and the 0.

I see you trying to put together a Dolch Pac lookalike  :))

Don't forget the split numpad plus/minus keys  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 12 October 2017, 09:51:54
Just a quick update, I have replied to all PM's during my absence for weeks, please PM me again if I miss out any of them.

There are still 3 orders pending for shipping, 2 of them haven't pay the shipping invoices.

And the last 1 is because he only pay on 29th October, which is actually eve of the China long holiday (8 days in total) where the pos services had already stop accepting parcels. The parcel will go out on this weekend.



Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 October 2017, 10:43:28
Thank you for the update.

Is it normal for the tracking to remain stock at the same original location at China with no additional transactions?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Thu, 12 October 2017, 10:45:44
Anyone with add-on kit whos interested in selling the R1 delete/end/pgdn and the 0.

I see you trying to put together a Dolch Pac lookalike  :))

Don't forget the split numpad plus/minus keys  :thumb:

Revo actually posted a picture of a metal Dolch pac, but just going for regular 1800 layout :)

Hmm not sure of big "+" or - and + split.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 13 October 2017, 22:45:08
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(
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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Mon, 16 October 2017, 08:47:15
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)


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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.

has your friend send it over the weekend?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 16 October 2017, 10:11:28
still waiting a response @kekkon, I've been refunded without requesting it :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 16 October 2017, 12:00:32
still waiting a response @kekkon, I've been refunded without requesting it :(

Uh! That is bad.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 16 October 2017, 15:22:02
Uh! That is bad.

indeed, and as if it was not enough @kekkon don't reply my pm anymore :(

I even said I want to withdraw the refund and pay the shipping invoice for my order again... this is an extremely unpleasant situation for someone who advanced the money for this GB, waited almost a year and all the sudden sees it all go away from seller's unilateral decision :/
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: rmearns on Mon, 16 October 2017, 18:41:58
(https://i.imgur.com/KZcuhJG.jpg)

pretty stoked. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 19 October 2017, 08:54:33
I got mine yesterday, I do really like this set.

(https://i.imgur.com/RoTrUXd.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/XwEj9PH.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/wphVNpb.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/eo5OJyi.jpg)

Thanks kekkon.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 October 2017, 12:02:12
The tracking reports that it is been delivered today, sadly, I will not be at home on time to sign for it, so I'll get it tomorrow, hopefully.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: soilheart on Thu, 19 October 2017, 14:04:17
My tracking hasn't moved since I was accepted on the 29:th =(

I'm kinda starting to get worried...
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 19 October 2017, 15:15:42
My tracking hasn't moved since I was accepted on the 29:th =(

I'm kinda starting to get worried...
Mine never worked. It updated when I got my set delivered.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 October 2017, 15:26:37
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KZcuhJG.jpg)


pretty stoked. :thumb:

Cool!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: autobot on Thu, 19 October 2017, 21:49:56
I got mine yesterday, I do really like this set.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/RoTrUXd.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XwEj9PH.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wphVNpb.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/eo5OJyi.jpg)


Thanks kekkon.  :thumb:

Waitasec...is the stepped control center-stemmed?!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 20 October 2017, 04:19:12
is the stepped control center-stemmed?!
Nope, offcenter. I have a custom PCB in that case.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: autobot on Fri, 20 October 2017, 06:29:55
is the stepped control center-stemmed?!
Nope, offcenter. I have a custom PCB in that case.

Ah, makes sense! Had to ask, as I know stock Filcos have center stem caps lock!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 October 2017, 08:06:07
I've not seen or hear about a GMK made centered step cap, ever, but some of the hat type that do not count as step, though.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: autobot on Fri, 20 October 2017, 08:21:06
I've not seen or hear about a GMK made centered step cap, ever, but some of the hat type that do not count as step, though.

The pic confused me for a sec since it looked like a stock Filco, but it was in fact a custom phantom style tkl pcb (didn't know too much about phantom) in a Filco housing.

edit: I also failed to notice the 1u windows and 1.5 Controls and Alts. I think I was tired when I asked. :p
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 October 2017, 08:38:50
I've not seen or hear about a GMK made centered step cap, ever, but some of the hat type that do not count as step, though.

The pic confused me for a sec since it looked like a stock Filco, but it was in fact a custom phantom style tkl pcb (didn't know too much about phantom) in a Filco housing.

edit: I also failed to notice the 1u windows and 1.5 Controls and Alts. I think I was tired when I asked. :p


 :)) :))
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 20 October 2017, 09:04:31
I also failed to notice the 1u windows and 1.5 Controls and Alts.
And the split Backspace but you can actually achieve that on a stock Filco PCB, with a Pegasus Hoof, because it supports JIS.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 20 October 2017, 10:04:49
Did anyone else receive a T cap with a crooked legend?

[attach=1][attach=2]

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 20 October 2017, 10:14:29
Did anyone else receive a T cap with a crooked legend?

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

me

This thing happened to GMK Carbon before, don't know why still haven't fixed yet.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 October 2017, 10:58:21
Did anyone else receive a T cap with a crooked legend?

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)


If it were a coin, the defect would increase it value, although being a key cap, it will not.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 October 2017, 13:22:04
for some reason GMK's "T" legends always seem to be ****ed up

i have that issue on my GMK olivetti set from 2013 lol
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 20 October 2017, 13:29:26
for some reason GMK's "T" legends always seem to be ****ed up

i have that issue on my GMK olivetti set from 2013 lol

Yeah its really inconsistent. Looking at my sets, some of them have it and some of them dont.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 October 2017, 16:16:32
It arrives!


It looks gorgeous, I ain't sure if I want to put a set this handsome to use, or just to stare at it all day.


Thank you Mr. Kekkon, I will join any GB you run anytime. Good job.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Sun, 22 October 2017, 21:54:25
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)


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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.

any updates? two weekends have passed
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 23 October 2017, 11:57:51
I'm also still waiting for the mess up situation (have been refunded without requesting it) :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: dcandic on Wed, 25 October 2017, 23:27:16
When will you ship it?

Why don't you answer the letter I sent you?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 29 October 2017, 22:19:43
Any Canadians got theirs yet?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: neon_tom on Mon, 30 October 2017, 06:31:55
Any Canadians got theirs yet?

Got mine a few weeks back
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 30 October 2017, 07:21:54
Just wanted to share the Dolch setup I went for after I got the caps from this buy :)

(https://i.imgur.com/58nP2ES.jpg)

I hope you like it!

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Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 30 October 2017, 08:08:27
Any Canadians got theirs yet?

Got mine a few weeks back

Argh, yours was shipped through China Post EMS while mine is registered snail mail from Malaysia  :(.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Mon, 30 October 2017, 09:14:24
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(
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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.

Three weekends have passed and still no word from you
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 30 October 2017, 11:26:54
he didn't replied me either :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 October 2017, 13:55:55
Just wanted to share the Dolch setup I went for after I got the caps from this buy :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/58nP2ES.jpg)


I hope you like it!

Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

It looks very elegant.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Mon, 30 October 2017, 14:03:51
If anyone want to transfer their order, id love to pick it up.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: honeynugget on Thu, 02 November 2017, 13:14:04
I regret not buying the addon kit. If anyone wants to sell me theirs, please PM me!
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Mon, 06 November 2017, 07:27:44
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(
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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.

Four weekends have passed and still no update
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 08 November 2017, 07:47:42
I don't understand, @kekkon is visiting GH and still don't answer anyone or resolve our pending GB issues :( :(
Quote
Last Active: Wed, 08 November 2017, 01:50:42

I'm still incredulous on how easy I've advanced money to this GB almost 1 year ago (in pratice I've just made a loan to @kekkon), didn't get my order and have been refunded without requesting it, even loosing ~10 in the convertion rates and PP fees... this is the first time I'm having trouble in a GB :/

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:18:34
A quick question: black or grey keyboard case with GMK dolch set, any suggestions?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:27:46
A quick question: black or grey keyboard case with GMK dolch set, any suggestions?

Both mix well, but grey + dolch is one of the best combinations.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:29:27
A quick question: black or grey keyboard case with GMK dolch set, any suggestions?

Both mix well, but grey + dolch is one of the best combinations.

Thanks. Grey it is.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:34:57
A quick question: black or grey keyboard case with GMK dolch set, any suggestions?

Both mix well, but grey + dolch is one of the best combinations.

Thanks. Grey it is.

yup, can confirm that Dolch looks better with grey board rather than black
(https://i.imgur.com/u3Kh41H.jpg)
*photo is using OG Dolch
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: avid on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:38:30
Oh damn, incredible photo.

Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:41:09
Oh damn, incredible photo.

Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.
Thanks.

It's okay, you can never have too much keyset. Including the set from this GB, I now have three Dolch sets

Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:54:16
Oh damn, incredible photo.

Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.
Thanks.

It's okay, you can never have too much keyset. Including the set from this GB, I now have three Dolch sets



Looks fantastic. Is this titanium grey txcp?
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: PoisonKing on Fri, 10 November 2017, 22:21:31
Oh damn, incredible photo.

Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.
Thanks.

It's okay, you can never have too much keyset. Including the set from this GB, I now have three Dolch sets



Looks fantastic. Is this titanium grey txcp?

Yup, titan grey TXCP R2
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 November 2017, 22:48:30
Oh damn, incredible photo.

Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.


Classics will be always classics for a reason, the rest are just momentary.
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: JulienC on Sun, 12 November 2017, 00:31:43
Any Canadians got theirs yet?

Still waiting for my package in Montreal, it's been 33 days in transit and no sign of it yet :(
Title: Re: [GB]GMK Dolch(Fill in the form for address changes)
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 12 November 2017, 01:17:23
Any Canadians got theirs yet?

Still waiting for my package in Montreal, it's been 33 days in transit and no sign of it yet :(

We are on the same boat...wondering how much longer it'll be...