Yes. I will sell what ever I need to sell.
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes. I will sell what ever I need to sell.
Yes
Yes
Yes
Classified thread and eBay are getting so much new love when I get home.
Oh, my gosh. I just noticed "6" is on the left side. That makes me really, really want to buy this board. Most of the charts I've seen suggest pressing "6" with your right hand, yet I find it far more comfortable to use my left.
Also, Wkl.kr? ;D His firmware is one of the most versatile I've used; very happy for that.
Who makes this board?
Oh, my gosh. I just noticed "6" is on the left side. That makes me really, really want to buy this board. Most of the charts I've seen suggest pressing "6" with your right hand, yet I find it far more comfortable to use my left.
Also, Wkl.kr? ;D His firmware is one of the most versatile I've used; very happy for that.
Who makes this board?
Just do it! Don't let your dreams be dreams.
Already on the list, but I'm interested just to clarify.
Already on the list, but I'm interested just to clarify.
there is a list!?!?
Already on the list, but I'm interested just to clarify.
there is a list!?!?
Thanks for starting this thread xondat.
You are already on my list.
Hey Vermillion is there any chance you could post the list here so we can know who has made it and who hasn't? Also, what is the production process going to look like?
Hey Vermillion is there any chance you could post the list here so we can know who has made it and who hasn't? Also, what is the production process going to look like?
As I said that list thing was a big mistake haha.
I'll keep in my own way.
I'll cut this IC thread when I cannot handle more.
Bur it's not a guarantee that who posted here gets joined.
I really need your understand that I'm not doing this for business way.
So there is no formal or standard way.
But it should be fair and clear I wish I can do that.
Hey Vermillion is there any chance you could post the list here so we can know who has made it and who hasn't? Also, what is the production process going to look like?
As I said that list thing was a big mistake haha.
I'll keep in my own way.
I'll cut this IC thread when I cannot handle more.
Bur it's not a guarantee that who posted here gets joined.
I really need your understand that I'm not doing this for business way.
So there is no formal or standard way.
But it should be fair and clear I wish I can do that.
Already 50 responses in this thread :eek:
I'm sure you will have no problem with the people on the list so far.
Especially with the people on kbdlab who are in on this.
One question - how does the keyboard fit back together? Do the halves just rest flush against each other, or is there some kind of clicking/locking mechanism?
Does anyone know if this will come assembled or as a kit? Switches included or no? If not, this thing is gonna get expensive real fast, but my incomg 78g Zealios would probably feel right at home on it :)
One question - how does the keyboard fit back together? Do the halves just rest flush against each other, or is there some kind of clicking/locking mechanism?
It appears to just rest flush together.
Does anyone know if this will come assembled or as a kit? Switches included or no? If not, this thing is gonna get expensive real fast, but my incomg 78g Zealios would probably feel right at home on it :)
I've heard that assembly might be offered, but I don't see how it'd be more expensive if it came as a kit, especially if you have switches already! Usually, it's always more expensive (and a PITA for me anyway) to buy assembled boards. I prefer kits so I can customize exactly as I want. :)
It's gonna be a toss-up between blue Alps or vintage MX "clicky clear" white switches in Zealio housings with carbon fiber stickers for me. :3
Does anyone know if this will come assembled or as a kit? Switches included or no? If not, this thing is gonna get expensive real fast, but my incomg 78g Zealios would probably feel right at home on it :)
I've heard that assembly might be offered, but I don't see how it'd be more expensive if it came as a kit, especially if you have switches already! Usually, it's always more expensive (and a PITA for me anyway) to buy assembled boards. I prefer kits so I can customize exactly as I want. :)
It's gonna be a toss-up between blue Alps or vintage MX "clicky clear" white switches in Zealio housings with carbon fiber stickers for me. :3
I don't have the tools or knowledge to put the board together myself so I would have to send it to someone else to have it put together, along with the switches. So I would have to pay for international shipping to myself, then to someone else to put it together, and then to have it shipped back to me.
Anyway we can just order PCBs?
One question - how does the keyboard fit back together? Do the halves just rest flush against each other, or is there some kind of clicking/locking mechanism?
It appears to just rest flush together.
Anyway we can just order PCBs?
Anyway we can just order PCBs?
I would also be interested in pcbs
Anyway we can just order PCBs?Anyway we can just order PCBs?
I would also be interested in pcbs
You two are able to make your own cases?
One question - how does the keyboard fit back together? Do the halves just rest flush against each other, or is there some kind of clicking/locking mechanism?
It appears to just rest flush together.
Yep, no locking mechanism
Xondat, that collection is stunning...
Xondat, that collection is stunning...
That's not his collection, it's Zefyr's.
Xondat, that collection is stunning...
Here is the most recent version.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yyw4Jh1.jpg)
Damn I really hope this doesn't happen too soon. Need to make some money ASAP.
I think I found what I haven't really been looking for. #dreaming
Yay! (I like it when I don't have to keep an eye on stuff for too long, or I'll forget about it...)Damn I really hope this doesn't happen too soon. Need to make some money ASAP.
I think I found what I haven't really been looking for. #dreaming
He said late February.
How much would the switch plate option be?
I would definitely be interested in picking up ALPS PCB and Plate. Do you know if the PCB will support both ALPS and MX?
VE.AShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/p6duEU0.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bCmCyW0.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/P0UazAE.png)
Aluminium Armor
Poly-carbonate Frame
STS switch mounting plate
Alps / Cherry MX compatible
Keymap Programmable firmware and control program by winkeyless.kr
Price around 400~450 USD
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How much would the switch plate option be?
I would definitely be interested in picking up ALPS PCB and Plate. Do you know if the PCB will support both ALPS and MX?
Karura, the PCB is MX and Alps compatible or an "MXAlps" PCB, as I like to call them. No worries about needing a separate PCB. Now, when it comes to plate, I can't say.
I'm going to speculate that there are separate plates, but there might be a chance that the plates are similar to LZ and JDCarpe's designs with notches that allow not only for MX switch top opening, but Alps compatibility.
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Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/da3e1ea9c712e63e00d6bbce2914d74d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/465b6375379843f6c22a7c6afba62efc.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/3adbec58314ef47106277c5e8cbf8a9b.jpg)
What key is next to the right shift and 0? Is that standard in all kits?
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omg that is so lovely :-*
Shhh it looks pretty.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/da3e1ea9c712e63e00d6bbce2914d74d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/465b6375379843f6c22a7c6afba62efc.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/3adbec58314ef47106277c5e8cbf8a9b.jpg)
omg that is so lovely :-*
The profiles are all wrong! :confused:
The more I look at this the more I think that left cluster looks out of place. Aren't those usually reserved for Fn keys? Since the board already has F keys and the right cluster, the left seems unnecessary, and doesn't look like a good num pad replacement.
That's just me. I think it still looks beautiful.
The more I look at this the more I think that left cluster looks out of place. Aren't those usually reserved for Fn keys? Since the board already has F keys and the right cluster, the left seems unnecessary, and doesn't look like a good num pad replacement.
That's just me. I think it still looks beautiful.
Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/da3e1ea9c712e63e00d6bbce2914d74d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/465b6375379843f6c22a7c6afba62efc.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/3adbec58314ef47106277c5e8cbf8a9b.jpg)
What key is next to the right shift and 0? Is that standard in all kits?
Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/da3e1ea9c712e63e00d6bbce2914d74d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/465b6375379843f6c22a7c6afba62efc.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/3adbec58314ef47106277c5e8cbf8a9b.jpg)
What key is next to the right shift and 0? Is that standard in all kits?
I'm not sure what row that's from, but you can do a complete Vergo layout with a 104 ANSI set with just a short right shift.
The more I look at this the more I think that left cluster looks out of place. Aren't those usually reserved for Fn keys? Since the board already has F keys and the right cluster, the left seems unnecessary, and doesn't look like a good num pad replacement.
That's just me. I think it still looks beautiful.
Sweet I love how ISO is learning how to get along and serve its ANSI overlord.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/da3e1ea9c712e63e00d6bbce2914d74d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/465b6375379843f6c22a7c6afba62efc.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/703/434/003/3adbec58314ef47106277c5e8cbf8a9b.jpg)
What key is next to the right shift and 0? Is that standard in all kits?
I'm not sure what row that's from, but you can do a complete Vergo layout with a 104 ANSI set with just a short right shift.
I assume that key is the blank R4 key made for ISO comparability.
I'd probably use it for artisans or something :PThe more I look at this the more I think that left cluster looks out of place. Aren't those usually reserved for Fn keys? Since the board already has F keys and the right cluster, the left seems unnecessary, and doesn't look like a good num pad replacement.
That's just me. I think it still looks beautiful.
I mean, usually that cluster doesn't exist. On the Kmac Mini people normally do put F1-F10. That is my only issue with this layout; that it has both the F row and the left cluster. Granted it makes the two halves symetric in size, but I would prefer one or the other. If I had wizard level hindsight I would have ordered the right amount of blanks from the Alpine Winter GB and been able to make a legendary build out of this.
But alas, the Canadian currency is stopping me from even dreaming about this :( Good luck to everyone trying to get one of these beauties.
I'd probably use it for artisans or something :PThe more I look at this the more I think that left cluster looks out of place. Aren't those usually reserved for Fn keys? Since the board already has F keys and the right cluster, the left seems unnecessary, and doesn't look like a good num pad replacement.
That's just me. I think it still looks beautiful.
I mean, usually that cluster doesn't exist. On the Kmac Mini people normally do put F1-F10. That is my only issue with this layout; that it has both the F row and the left cluster. Granted it makes the two halves symetric in size, but I would prefer one or the other. If I had wizard level hindsight I would have ordered the right amount of blanks from the Alpine Winter GB and been able to make a legendary build out of this.
But alas, the Canadian currency is stopping me from even dreaming about this :( Good luck to everyone trying to get one of these beauties.
I'd probably use it for artisans or something :PThe more I look at this the more I think that left cluster looks out of place. Aren't those usually reserved for Fn keys? Since the board already has F keys and the right cluster, the left seems unnecessary, and doesn't look like a good num pad replacement.
That's just me. I think it still looks beautiful.
I mean, usually that cluster doesn't exist. On the Kmac Mini people normally do put F1-F10. That is my only issue with this layout; that it has both the F row and the left cluster. Granted it makes the two halves symetric in size, but I would prefer one or the other. If I had wizard level hindsight I would have ordered the right amount of blanks from the Alpine Winter GB and been able to make a legendary build out of this.
But alas, the Canadian currency is stopping me from even dreaming about this :( Good luck to everyone trying to get one of these beauties.
You need the geekhack monthly novelty caps from JDCarpeI'd probably use it for artisans or somethingThe more I look at this the more I think that left cluster looks out of place. Aren't those usually reserved for Fn keys? Since the board already has F keys and the right cluster, the left seems unnecessary, and doesn't look like a good num pad replacement.
That's just me. I think it still looks beautiful.
I mean, usually that cluster doesn't exist. On the Kmac Mini people normally do put F1-F10. That is my only issue with this layout; that it has both the F row and the left cluster. Granted it makes the two halves symetric in size, but I would prefer one or the other. If I had wizard level hindsight I would have ordered the right amount of blanks from the Alpine Winter GB and been able to make a legendary build out of this.
But alas, the Canadian currency is stopping me from even dreaming about this :( Good luck to everyone trying to get one of these beauties.
ALPS artisans :'(
Oh man... I was sooo wrong.
I should lock IC thread right here.
I'll check names and count quantity...
Damn... I have to look for help. Seriously!
I am happy, excited and exhausted already.
bumpBut... Can I be on a list?
- There's no "list" -
bumpBut... Can I be on a list?
- There's no "list" -
I am become list.
bump
- There's no "list" -
bump
- There's no "list" -
Please let us know when there is one, as you can see, many are very interested in this : )
/me puts his name on the *secret* list ;)
I'm p sure geekhack is just a series of good and bad lists.
/me puts his name on the *secret* list ;)
/me puts his name on the *secret* list ;)
Didn't know you can do that! :p
/me puts his name on the *secret* list ;)
It's ok Hoff, you can speak about yourself in 1st person..we won't judge. :)
/me loves 3rd person sexy talk though...
/me puts his name on the *secret* list ;)
Oh man... I was sooo wrong.
I should lock IC thread right here.
I'll check names and count quantity...
Damn... I have to look for help. Seriously!
I am happy, excited and exhausted already.
I'm p sure geekhack is just a series of good and bad lists.
I'm p sure geekhack is just a series of good and bad lists.
If GH has a Naughty and Nice list does that make iMav Santa and HoffmanMyster Mrs. Claus?
I'm p sure geekhack is just a series of good and bad lists.
If GH has a Naughty and Nice list does that make iMav Santa and HoffmanMyster Mrs. Claus?
Not sure if being iMav's wife is good or bad...
I'm p sure geekhack is just a series of good and bad lists.
If GH has a Naughty and Nice list does that make iMav Santa and HoffmanMyster Mrs. Claus?
Not sure if being iMav's wife is good or bad...
In a way we are Elves creating and making goods like they do in the North Pole. :thumb:
/me puts his name on the *secret* list ;)
Didn't know you can do that! :p
hehehe ;) :P/me puts his name on the *secret* list ;)
It's ok Hoff, you can speak about yourself in 1st person..we won't judge. :)
/me loves 3rd person sexy talk though...
Oh myyyy
Not to derail this did, but I'm excited for this.
I hope zefyr doesn't stress himself out and take on too much.
inb4 saltiness if people don't get a spot.
Not to derail this did, but I'm excited for this.
I hope zefyr doesn't stress himself out and take on too much.
inb4 saltiness if people don't get a spot.
please don't derail our derailing's..
Not to derail this did, but I'm excited for this.
I hope zefyr doesn't stress himself out and take on too much.
inb4 saltiness if people don't get a spot.
This is honestly the first split keyboard that gets my interest.
This is honestly the first split keyboard that gets my interest.
Likewise, you can put it together if you just want 1 board too :)
This is very interesting, to me, that is.
This is very interesting, to me, that is.
and a **** ton of other people :rolleyes:
This is very interesting, to me, that is.
and a **** ton of other people :rolleyes:
Don't even think this thread is necessary, any living being that sees this board will want it :eek:
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
LSB posted it haha. Everybody is hopping over to check it out.
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
LSB posted it haha. Everybody is hopping over to check it out.
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
LSB posted it haha. Everybody is hopping over to check it out.
But why :confused:
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
LSB posted it haha. Everybody is hopping over to check it out.
But why :confused:
I'm afraid this is just going to bring more weight on Zefyr. He was already stressed with all the attention here.
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
LSB posted it haha. Everybody is hopping over to check it out.
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
LSB posted it haha. Everybody is hopping over to check it out.
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
LSB posted it haha. Everybody is hopping over to check it out.
Yeah we really did not need the extra interest. Even without there there was at least 3x the amount of interest than the amount Zefyr was planning on making.
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
LSB posted it haha. Everybody is hopping over to check it out.
Yeah we really did not need the extra interest. Even without there there was at least 3x the amount of interest than the amount Zefyr was planning on making.
This not gon be gud. :(
Lol there is almost 200 people viewing this thread at the moment. Did somebody link it to reddit or something? 166 guests...
LSB posted it haha. Everybody is hopping over to check it out.
Yeah we really did not need the extra interest. Even without there there was at least 3x the amount of interest than the amount Zefyr was planning on making.
This not gon be gud. :(
Sadly, not at all. We should've just kept it to ourselves rather than starting the conversation in the Octagon thread. :p
Meh. So far I've been lucky to spot just about every single kustom GB before the cut-off time.We could've been Jane brothers :(
I even caught the Janes.
I'm just more worried that Vermillion will take on more than he is willing; he seems to be doing that already.
We could've been Jane brothers :(
Vermillion is primarily a member of kbdlab and if anything, Geekhack should be blessed that he even bothered to come here.
I can't see this ending well. This is was never supposed to be a big project. This was probably supposed to be like 20 boards max.
The thirst for the korean customs is real right now. ;)
I can't see this ending well. This is was never supposed to be a big project. This was probably supposed to be like 20 boards max.
The thirst for the korean customs is real right now. ;)
We're gonna scare him off
I can't see this ending well. This is was never supposed to be a big project. This was probably supposed to be like 20 boards max.
The thirst for the korean customs is real right now. ;)
We're gonna scare him off
I think we already did. :-X
EVERYONE! DISPERSE!
All I know is that last time I missed out on both Jane GB's because the link got shared, and I am not going to let that happen here.
How do I sign up for this?
EVERYONE! DISPERSE!
That includes you right?
All I know is that last time I missed out on both Jane GB's because the link got shared, and I am not going to let that happen here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/xTiTnHXbRoaZ1B1Mo8.gif)
All I know is that last time I missed out on both Jane GB's because the link got shared, and I am not going to let that happen here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/xTiTnHXbRoaZ1B1Mo8.gif)
And I counter with:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NcxrA6I.gif)
I can't see this ending well. This is was never supposed to be a big project. This was probably supposed to be like 20 boards max.
The thirst for the korean customs is real right now. ;)
PlznoI can't see this ending well. This is was never supposed to be a big project. This was probably supposed to be like 20 boards max.
The thirst for the korean customs is real right now. ;)
1) Build 20 boards.
2) Auction them off.
3) Profit!
All I know is that last time I missed out on both Jane GB's because the link got shared, and I am not going to let that happen here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/xTiTnHXbRoaZ1B1Mo8.gif)
And I counter with:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NcxrA6I.gif)Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/aiR9vAJkLSYNO.gif)
Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
I overslept!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot be more approciated for your interest guys.
And don't you consider me as a visiter.
That makes me like.... Kocking on GH door and smile saying
"Hi! is this household needs a gooood, new keyboard to makes everything better?"
Heh
I am a enthusiast, a nerd, a geek and a proud geekhack member.
You cannot scare me off by showing interest.
Seriously, who wouldn't likes people love his work?
I JUST OVERSLEPT.
Man my boss must be maaaad by now.
And you guys have to think about jetlag. Haha.
Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
I overslept!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot be more approciated for your interest guys.
And don't you consider me as a visiter.
That makes me like.... Kocking on GH door and smile saying
"Hi! is this household needs a gooood, new keyboard to makes everything better?"
Heh
I am a enthusiast, a nerd, a geek and a proud geekhack member.
You cannot scare me off by showing interest.
Seriously, who wouldn't likes people love his work?
I JUST OVERSLEPT.
Man my boss must be maaaad by now.
And you guys have to think about jetlag. Haha.
Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
I overslept!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot be more approciated for your interest guys.
And don't you consider me as a visiter.
That makes me like.... Kocking on GH door and smile saying
"Hi! is this household needs a gooood, new keyboard to makes everything better?"
Heh
I am a enthusiast, a nerd, a geek and a proud geekhack member.
You cannot scare me off by showing interest.
Seriously, who wouldn't likes people love his work?
I JUST OVERSLEPT.
Man my boss must be maaaad by now.
And you guys have to think about jetlag. Haha.
well, this house needs a nice new keyboard, but right now you need to get your ass to work!
Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
I overslept!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot be more approciated for your interest guys.
And don't you consider me as a visiter.
That makes me like.... Kocking on GH door and smile saying
"Hi! is this household needs a gooood, new keyboard to makes everything better?"
Heh
I am a enthusiast, a nerd, a geek and a proud geekhack member.
You cannot scare me off by showing interest.
Seriously, who wouldn't likes people love his work?
I JUST OVERSLEPT.
Man my boss must be maaaad by now.
And you guys have to think about jetlag. Haha.
well, this house needs a nice new keyboard, but right now you need to get your ass to work!
Now I'm scared.
I can't see this ending well. This is was never supposed to be a big project. This was probably supposed to be like 20 boards max.
The thirst for the korean customs is real right now. ;)
1) Build 20 boards.
2) Auction them off.
3) Profit!
Vermillion, jet lag or time difference is another way to describe it. :)
I am always happy to have more enthusiasts to chat with and discuss our passion for the hobby.
Really happy to have you here, don't be scared, hahaha
Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
I overslept!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot be more approciated for your interest guys.
And don't you consider me as a visiter.
That makes me like.... Kocking on GH door and smile saying
"Hi! is this household needs a gooood, new keyboard to makes everything better?"
Heh
I am a enthusiast, a nerd, a geek and a proud geekhack member.
You cannot scare me off by showing interest.
Seriously, who wouldn't likes people love his work?
I JUST OVERSLEPT.
Man my boss must be maaaad by now.
And you guys have to think about jetlag. Haha.
Very interested. Yes.
Very interested. Yes.
You can't always get what you want, Handsome Squidward.
Zefyr, you are an amazing guy. We're proud to have you here. Your sense of humor is golden, haha.
I'm even better when I'm drunk. when I don't feel shy about bad grammar.
Wait, that's not better. dumb.
IN
but prefer a 60 layout
IN
but prefer a 60 layout
IN
but prefer a 60 layout
IN
but prefer a 60 layout
So Zephyr, you take souls as payment right?? ;)
So Zephyr, you take souls as payment right?? ;)
Only if you are a hot girl, and my contract will be "be in my dream, every night, do some nice things, like.... soldering together."
So Zephyr, you take souls as payment right?? ;)
Only if you are a hot girl, and my contract will be "be in my dream, every night, do some nice things, like.... soldering together."
All I know is that last time I missed out on both Jane GB's because the link got shared, and I am not going to let that happen here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/xTiTnHXbRoaZ1B1Mo8.gif)
So Zephyr, you take souls as payment right?? ;)
Only if you are a hot girl, and my contract will be "be in my dream, every night, do some nice things, like.... soldering together."
Hey, I can be in your dreams, but I have a beard. We can still solder together though! :cool:
So Zephyr, you take souls as payment right?? ;)
Only if you are a hot girl, and my contract will be "be in my dream, every night, do some nice things, like.... soldering together."
Hey, I can be in your dreams, but I have a beard. We can still solder together though! :cool:
My... that will be my nightmare tonight.
Thank you sir.
Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
I overslept!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot be more approciated for your interest guys.
And don't you consider me as a visiter.
That makes me like.... Kocking on GH door and smile saying
"Hi! is this household needs a gooood, new keyboard to makes everything better?"
Heh
I am a enthusiast, a nerd, a geek and a proud geekhack member.
You cannot scare me off by showing interest.
Seriously, who wouldn't likes people love his work?
I JUST OVERSLEPT.
Man my boss must be maaaad by now.
And you guys have to think about jetlag. Haha.
Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
I overslept!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot be more approciated for your interest guys.
And don't you consider me as a visiter.
That makes me like.... Kocking on GH door and smile saying
"Hi! is this household needs a gooood, new keyboard to makes everything better?"
Heh
I am a enthusiast, a nerd, a geek and a proud geekhack member.
You cannot scare me off by showing interest.
Seriously, who wouldn't likes people love his work?
I JUST OVERSLEPT.
Man my boss must be maaaad by now.
And you guys have to think about jetlag. Haha.
Where do I sign to accept the delivery of my VE.A? :)) :))
Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
I overslept!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot be more approciated for your interest guys.
And don't you consider me as a visiter.
That makes me like.... Kocking on GH door and smile saying
"Hi! is this household needs a gooood, new keyboard to makes everything better?"
Heh
I am a enthusiast, a nerd, a geek and a proud geekhack member.
You cannot scare me off by showing interest.
Seriously, who wouldn't likes people love his work?
I JUST OVERSLEPT.
Man my boss must be maaaad by now.
And you guys have to think about jetlag. Haha.
Where do I sign to accept the delivery of my VE.A? :)) :))
I thought you were broke :p
So Zephyr, you take souls as payment right?? ;)
Only if you are a hot girl, and my contract will be "be in my dream, every night, do some nice things, like.... soldering together."
So Zephyr, you take souls as payment right?? ;)
Only if you are a hot girl, and my contract will be "be in my dream, every night, do some nice things, like.... soldering together."
We can solder together!
Question: should I be naked when I solder with you?
You know... To reduce risk of static discharge
Please put me on your naked soldering list.
Please put me on your naked soldering list.
At least let me wear a heat shielded banana hammock. :-X
We can solder together!
Question: should I be naked when I solder with you?
You know... To reduce risk of static discharge
Just looking over the OP, beyond a normal keyset, what extra keys would be needed to cover this board?
Just looking over the OP, beyond a normal keyset, what extra keys would be needed to cover this board?
The only extra key you'll need outside of a standard 104 key set is a short right shift. You could do the rest of the board with a single standard set. For a better idea just look at the alps one with apple caps since the rest are blanks. Use the numpad for the 10 macro keys and the two keys around the spacebar on the left side, and the right shift for the right space key.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/p6duEU0.png)
OMFG this is genius. Please I need it.
This concept is stunning! Can't wait to see actual versions.This is actual version.
let the young go firstOMFG this is genius. Please I need it.
Get in line :p
You ringed my bell.let the young go firstOMFG this is genius. Please I need it.
Get in line :p
You ringed my bell.let the young go firstOMFG this is genius. Please I need it.
Get in line :p
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?
You ringed my bell.let the young go firstOMFG this is genius. Please I need it.
Get in line :p
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?
Here is a picture of me.
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You ringed my bell.let the young go firstOMFG this is genius. Please I need it.
Get in line :p
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?
Here is a picture of me.
(Attachment Link)
Woah, hold on. Where'd you get that picture of me??
You ringed my bell.let the young go firstOMFG this is genius. Please I need it.
Get in line
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?
Here is a picture of me.
(Attachment Link)
Woah, hold on. Where'd you get that picture of me??
I know hes korean and all but damn maybe he like basic white b#@#$es
see he gets itI know hes korean and all but damn maybe he like basic white b#@#$es
Or maybe he likes the sistas'
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You ringed my bell.let the young go firstOMFG this is genius. Please I need it.
Get in line :p
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?
Or maybe he......Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160206/240deaae27639904e4321d94edcab95b.jpg)
Or maybe he......Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160206/240deaae27639904e4321d94edcab95b.jpg)
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?
Here is a picture of me.
(Attachment Link)
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?
Here is a picture of me.
(Attachment Link)
You can see me in my avatar.
Or maybe he......Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160206/240deaae27639904e4321d94edcab95b.jpg)
Yeah that's a negatory
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I updated OP.
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I updated OP.
I've already sold a guitar and some of my mtg collection so I have money set aside to cover it even if it goes up :thumb:
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?
I've already sold a guitar and some of my mtg collection so I have money set aside to cover it even if it goes up :thumb:
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?
Either way,
I don't think a board which price is this high cannot make 300 orders.
Even if it makes that quantity, I cannot handle it.
That's what I meant for "not realistic".
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?
Either way,
I don't think a board which price is this high cannot make 300 orders.
Even if it makes that quantity, I cannot handle it.
That's what I meant for "not realistic".
Wouldn't 300 orders being put into the shop lower the price a good amount?
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?
Either way,
I don't think a board which price is this high cannot make 300 orders.
Even if it makes that quantity, I cannot handle it.
That's what I meant for "not realistic".
Wouldn't 300 orders being put into the shop lower the price a good amount?
Most shop(if you mean factory) doesn't take 300 as good amount.
If there's a shop which take that is good amount, are saying a BIG BIG cost for produce.
I must find somewhere order-price matching factory but... it's not that simple.
Or maybe he......Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160206/240deaae27639904e4321d94edcab95b.jpg)
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?
Either way,
I don't think a board which price is this high cannot make 300 orders.
Even if it makes that quantity, I cannot handle it.
That's what I meant for "not realistic".
Wouldn't 300 orders being put into the shop lower the price a good amount?
is there a mechanism that keeps the two halves together when you're not using the ergo split? like a latch?No. but speaking of that, would a magnet (mediumish strength) work? Would be a cool little mod to figure out a latch or something.
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I updated OP.
(There's lots of trustworthy soldering services available right on GH!).
There is though. Granted, there's also plenty of shady people here too.(There's lots of trustworthy soldering services available right on GH!).
Can't tell if this is a joke or not
It's a little heavier than magnet can fix, (I didn't tried but hmm...)is there a mechanism that keeps the two halves together when you're not using the ergo split? like a latch?No. but speaking of that, would a magnet (mediumish strength) work? Would be a cool little mod to figure out a latch or something.
The difference between the 400-450 up to 456 isn't that big of a bump. I'd say that that's a tiny bump even for the low-end. Good to figure out an accurate estimation and also possibly charge a bit more to give you some working room.You got that a little wrong.
Oh I definitely understand! I meant as a mod later after people already have them. But you're right about it not being too practical, since it'll be on the desk most of the time.It's a little heavier than magnet can fix, (I didn't tried but hmm...)is there a mechanism that keeps the two halves together when you're not using the ergo split? like a latch?No. but speaking of that, would a magnet (mediumish strength) work? Would be a cool little mod to figure out a latch or something.
Latch or magnet to fix will be great attraction feature if possible, but you have to think about price. more complex mechanism and parts need more money.
It's already high enough, I don't think any additional feature (which is not practical when using it) is necessary.
I have my standard about design, fixing it is not in the list. Keyboard is sit on the desk most of time.
And also I want this keyboard used in split form, with proper tented stand.
The idea about "transformable" is for design, attraction, and can be practical for those who trying to move over to the split-typing world.
The difference between the 400-450 up to 456 isn't that big of a bump. I'd say that that's a tiny bump even for the low-end. Good to figure out an accurate estimation and also possibly charge a bit more to give you some working room.You got that a little wrong.
What I meant for that range was
minimum 400 will be 456
maximum? it could be over 513.
That's a BIG number for just one board housing and PCB.
The difference between the 400-450 up to 456 isn't that big of a bump. I'd say that that's a tiny bump even for the low-end. Good to figure out an accurate estimation and also possibly charge a bit more to give you some working room.You got that a little wrong.
What I meant for that range was
minimum 400 will be 456
maximum? it could be over 513.
That's a BIG number for just one board housing and PCB.
Many Korean designer told me (including kin25) SMT is a must-in-feature when it goes global.There is though. Granted, there's also plenty of shady people here too.(There's lots of trustworthy soldering services available right on GH!).
Can't tell if this is a joke or not
Whatever you do please don't be like kin25. :)
Is the price because the split design doubles the individual parts in the kit?yes it is, split, doubles CNC cost.
That was something brought up when I was having a case designed for this.
Wow, I said a lot :) that could make some people uncomfortable.
GH is forum for custom keyboard discussion, So I think this is OK even in this thread which is -interesting check for keyboard kit-.
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while! :thumb:I'm hoping for under 600
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while! :thumb:I'm hoping for under 600
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while! :thumb:
I've already sold a guitar and some of my mtg collection so I have money set aside to cover it even if it goes up :thumb:
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while! :thumb:I'm hoping for under 600As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while! :thumb:
You've gone so far. I'll not doing this when it goes that high.
It's not just worth that much. I mean it.
Would you be willing to have extra PCBs made for people who'd rather just make their own case? And would these PCBs work with the old case files?No solid plan but if it helps, yes.
I'm down to almost nothing.card wise these daysI've already sold a guitar and some of my mtg collection so I have money set aside to cover it even if it goes up :thumb:
yo sell me some of your magic cards
Hey Zefyr,No it deos not support other layout.
Love the board. I'm curious if the plate/PCB support a bottom row layout that doesn't have that 1u key in the bottom right (next to the split "space"). Based on your latest update to the OP, I'm assuming not, but I wanted to check.
Thanks so much for sharing your passion with us!
- No ISO layout support
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Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.
I can help with the design of acrylic case as long as the PCB layout drawing is available :))Would you be willing to have extra PCBs made for people who'd rather just make their own case? And would these PCBs work with the old case files?No solid plan but if it helps, yes.
But old housing design is not fit with this PCB version.
I wish I can design acrylic case but I'm too busy recently.
That video!! I love it. :D
That video!! I love it. :D
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That video!! I love it. :D
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He added it in the OP :)
Why not send the plans to a shop I the US? I'm sure you can find a trusted ghacker to help and partner up with. Prob be cheaper but can't say as I have no real experience in this sort of thing.
Lol china then where build quality is a hit or miss or they will prob steal your designWhy not send the plans to a shop I the US? I'm sure you can find a trusted ghacker to help and partner up with. Prob be cheaper but can't say as I have no real experience in this sort of thing.
almost definitely would be more expensive. SK has much cheaper machining than the US as of now
Lol china then where build quality is a hit or miss or they will prob steal your designWhy not send the plans to a shop I the US? I'm sure you can find a trusted ghacker to help and partner up with. Prob be cheaper but can't say as I have no real experience in this sort of thing.
almost definitely would be more expensive. SK has much cheaper machining than the US as of now
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.
It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP
Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.
Do it anyway tbhLooks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.
It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP
Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.
75% layout :thumb:
macros for csgo buys :thumb:
split :thumb:
korean :thumb:
destroys wallets :thumb:
aluminium :thumb:
Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.
It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP
Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.
75% layout - worst layout but can deal with it
macros for csgo buys - lame
split - yes
korean - who cares where it comes from
destroys wallets - worth it
aluminium - a must have
Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.
I like that you write "aluminium" instead of "aluminum." Ever since hearing that from a professor it has been my preferred pronunciation.Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.
It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP
Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.
75% layout :thumb:
macros for csgo buys :thumb:
split :thumb:
korean :thumb:
destroys wallets :thumb:
aluminium :thumb:
Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.
I like that you write "aluminium" instead of "aluminum." Ever since hearing that from a professor it has been my preferred pronunciation.Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.
It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP
Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.
75% layout :thumb:
macros for csgo buys :thumb:
split :thumb:
korean :thumb:
destroys wallets :thumb:
aluminium :thumb:
Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.
Also, why are Korean and aluminum keyboards so sought after?
I suppose it's something one would have to try in order to find out for themselves. Thank you for the info!I like that you write "aluminium" instead of "aluminum." Ever since hearing that from a professor it has been my preferred pronunciation.Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.
It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP
Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.
75% layout :thumb:
macros for csgo buys :thumb:
split :thumb:
korean :thumb:
destroys wallets :thumb:
aluminium :thumb:
Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.
Also, why are Korean and aluminum keyboards so sought after?
Korea is just where the fad originated, people are just wanting aluminum keyboards. Why wouldn't you want a solid board on your desk? Ever since I went with aluminum customs there is no chance I'm settling with anything else.
I like that you write "aluminium" instead of "aluminum." Ever since hearing that from a professor it has been my preferred pronunciation.:))
Also, why are Korean and aluminum keyboards so sought after?
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).
I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).
I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.
I believe it was quoted to start late February.
Though maybe he will delay it further for planning considering he has expanded his order limit.
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).
I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.
I believe it was quoted to start late February.
Though maybe he will delay it further for planning considering he has expanded his order limit.
When did he confirm the order limit was increased?
I actually have an option to make it. I can hire people.
As I mentioned before, my factory's capacity is big enough everyone.
It's just my packaging, checking, shipping time that I'm short of.
But,
In that another way, It cannot be the same thing it used be.
a limited, somewhat rare, hard-to-get. Somebody (including me) want that as "Feature" of a board.
If many people thinks like that, I have to limit quantity.
I'm struggling with myself. Rarity? Practical? where I should go on this way?
As I talked with some friends, my little wish is "anyone who types" should uses split-style keyboard. not just VE series.
If that time comes, I can get good product in decent price. right? To be honest here, VE series? too expensive, even for me.
So, how do you think guys?
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).
I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.
I believe it was quoted to start late February.
Though maybe he will delay it further for planning considering he has expanded his order limit.
When did he confirm the order limit was increased?I actually have an option to make it. I can hire people.
As I mentioned before, my factory's capacity is big enough everyone.
It's just my packaging, checking, shipping time that I'm short of.
But,
In that another way, It cannot be the same thing it used be.
a limited, somewhat rare, hard-to-get. Somebody (including me) want that as "Feature" of a board.
If many people thinks like that, I have to limit quantity.
I'm struggling with myself. Rarity? Practical? where I should go on this way?
As I talked with some friends, my little wish is "anyone who types" should uses split-style keyboard. not just VE series.
If that time comes, I can get good product in decent price. right? To be honest here, VE series? too expensive, even for me.
So, how do you think guys?
Never actually confirmed
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).
I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.
I believe it was quoted to start late February.
Though maybe he will delay it further for planning considering he has expanded his order limit.
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).
I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.
I believe it was quoted to start late February.
Though maybe he will delay it further for planning considering he has expanded his order limit.
When did he confirm the order limit was increased?I actually have an option to make it. I can hire people.
As I mentioned before, my factory's capacity is big enough everyone.
It's just my packaging, checking, shipping time that I'm short of.
But,
In that another way, It cannot be the same thing it used be.
a limited, somewhat rare, hard-to-get. Somebody (including me) want that as "Feature" of a board.
If many people thinks like that, I have to limit quantity.
I'm struggling with myself. Rarity? Practical? where I should go on this way?
As I talked with some friends, my little wish is "anyone who types" should uses split-style keyboard. not just VE series.
If that time comes, I can get good product in decent price. right? To be honest here, VE series? too expensive, even for me.
So, how do you think guys?
Never actually confirmed
Here's hoping!
Its crazy the more i lurk this thread.. The closer i am coming to considering this... Assuming this isnt an exclusive group buy
Its crazy the more i lurk this thread.. The closer i am coming to considering this... Assuming this isnt an exclusive group buy
Not so so "exclusive" as it is "limited".
NOT ANYMORE.Shhh quiet is better
I just figured that all the lurkers who posted here didn't have the retention to make more than one post before leaving.
Either that or we don't have anything new to talk about since even zefyr has gone quiet.
I just figured that all the lurkers who posted here didn't have the retention to make more than one post before leaving.
Either that or we don't have anything new to talk about since even zefyr has gone quiet.
It's still lunar new year or chinese new year holiday, just chill guys.I spoke with him about 2 days ago. This is the case. Chill out folks.
Holiday over.
It was a long driving phew.....
You have no idea guys.
11 hours driving just for 400km... Hmm 250 miles? Not once, twice! in tree days!
Was a long and stressful driving.
I need some rest guys. Hehe.
Holiday over.
It was a long driving phew.....
You have no idea guys.
11 hours driving just for 400km... Hmm 250 miles? Not once, twice! in tree days!
Was a long and stressful driving.
I need some rest guys. Hehe.
Happy Lunar New Year!If you using Cherry MX, the mounting plate is universal.
Did you visit some relatives? That's a really long drive.
Also I got a question, for the bottom row, can I choose to do something like 2.a?Show Image(http://puu.sh/n3LJT/39ab4b4a71.png)
What about for ALPS? I assume there's a restriction then?
I'm not sure if I'm interested or not. Part of me doesn't get the craze with the split boards, but part of me also thinks this looks awesome. I'll follow for updates for sure.
This keyboard is like the mechanical Korean custom version of what I'm currently using at work:Show Image(http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/images/2008/Kinesis-Freestyle2-for-PC-91.jpg)
This keyboard is like the mechanical Korean custom version of what I'm currently using at work:Show Image(http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/images/2008/Kinesis-Freestyle2-for-PC-91.jpg)
What board is that?!?
I'm not sure if I'm interested or not. Part of me doesn't get the craze with the split boards, but part of me also thinks this looks awesome. I'll follow for updates for sure.
Suppose you can just push the two halves together? ^-^
This keyboard is like the mechanical Korean custom version of what I'm currently using at work:Show Image(http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/images/2008/Kinesis-Freestyle2-for-PC-91.jpg)
What board is that?!?
This keyboard is like the mechanical Korean custom version of what I'm currently using at work:Show Image(http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/images/2008/Kinesis-Freestyle2-for-PC-91.jpg)
What board is that?!?
Darude, "Sandstorm."
This keyboard is like the mechanical Korean custom version of what I'm currently using at work:Show Image(http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/images/2008/Kinesis-Freestyle2-for-PC-91.jpg)
This keyboard is like the mechanical Korean custom version of what I'm currently using at work:Show Image(http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/images/2008/Kinesis-Freestyle2-for-PC-91.jpg)
Actually, I have two FreeStyle.
When I design VE series, a adopted a lot features from it.
I wanted a mechanical keyboard, split, with similar layout.
Kinesis Freestyle is the best ready-made keyboard I have ever used.
This keyboard is like the mechanical Korean custom version of what I'm currently using at work:Show Image(http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/images/2008/Kinesis-Freestyle2-for-PC-91.jpg)
Actually, I have two FreeStyle.
When I design VE series, a adopted a lot features from it.
I wanted a mechanical keyboard, split, with similar layout.
Kinesis Freestyle is the best ready-made keyboard I have ever used.
Have you ever tried an ErgoDox?
What about for ALPS? I assume there's a restriction then?
I believe you are not familiar with alps switches :)
If you want to use alps switches and stabilizers, you "should" make switch mount plate very specific. No optional placement is allowed.
So, when this GB starts, anyone want to use alps switches have to set(draw,fix whatever) their own layout and attach it on order.
And, that's why I charge more price for alps switch plate.
And for your question,
If you have proper keycaps, you can order whatever layout you want.
What about for ALPS? I assume there's a restriction then?
I believe you are not familiar with alps switches :)
If you want to use alps switches and stabilizers, you "should" make switch mount plate very specific. No optional placement is allowed.
So, when this GB starts, anyone want to use alps switches have to set(draw,fix whatever) their own layout and attach it on order.
And, that's why I charge more price for alps switch plate.
And for your question,
If you have proper keycaps, you can order whatever layout you want.
Ohh, good answer! I am definitely not that experienced with ALPS, I only understand that every single switch needs a specific switch-plate hole for it to work.
I really like your setup using AEK2 + M0116 keycaps. :thumb:
I think Apple makes the nicest ALPS keycaps out there. Do you have any other layout suggestion that is possible with Apple ALPS keycaps, or would the one you posted by the most optimal?
A little news for alps people.
I was struggling with CapsLock switch for a long time.
Thanks for friends who motivated me, I solved the problem, and upcoming GB will includes new revision. (which is 0.3)
A little news for alps people.
I was struggling with CapsLock switch for a long time.
Thanks for friends who motivated me, I solved the problem, and upcoming GB will includes new revision. (which is 0.3)
Awesome news :)
but who uses Caps Lock?
A little news for alps people.
I was struggling with CapsLock switch for a long time.
Thanks for friends who motivated me, I solved the problem, and upcoming GB will includes new revision. (which is 0.3)
Awesome news :)
but who uses Caps Lock?
Have you ever tried an ErgoDox?
No I didn't.
Layout is too much for me, I'm sure I cannot use any other keyboards after I adapted to Ergodox. that's why I didn't tried it.
It's near perfect. So afraid :-[
Ah, you guys :)
OK, I'll explain the detail.
First, when I say CapsLock, it's "the switch in capslock position", since you know, it's custom keyboard.
You can map any key there, I use CapsLock/Fn Layer Dual Action key.
(You saw my video, I change LED mode with capslock + another key, when hit once, it's caps lock, when typed with another key, it's Fn layer key. simple and useful.)
Somebody uses the position as Ctrl, (like HHKB)
So, it's not about key "function" , it's "position" matter.
When it comes to alps, position -REALLY- matters. Because of slim keycap choice option.
And CapsLock, Row3 1.75u Keycap.
Vintage CherryMX stem position is 1.25u (stepped capslock keycap), OEM MX stem position is 1.75u.
At this point, no problem.
But additional vintage Alps keycaps like AT101, SGI the stem makes it a lot complicated, it's at "1.5u" position.
It's not a problem if Vergo type.T-II PCB is designed only for Alps and another version of MX.
But it is combo-compatible. So yes, really is a problem.
When you place 1.25 MX + 1.25 Alps + 1.5 Alps + 1.75 MX + 1.75 Alps for one switch, the pads stick together in one big chunk of pad. 1.5 Alps pads makes bridge of all pads. So, it cannot be "switch".
Anyway, I just cracked this problem out. not delicate but yeh, it will works.
It looks like this.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NwTRWwi.png)
This can be a good news for those who planned to use AT101 keycaps for this PCB.
Have you ever tried an ErgoDox?
No I didn't.
Layout is too much for me, I'm sure I cannot use any other keyboards after I adapted to Ergodox. that's why I didn't tried it.
It's near perfect. So afraid :-[
I agree, that is why I used and then abandoned the ErgoDox as my work didn't allow me to always carry a mech board with me and had to use my laptop's keyboard and the different layout just screwed up my typing. This is why I started the TS65 project, coincidentally, quite similar to yours: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79161 (Shameless plug :P)
Yes exactly, custom-custom plate needed.Ah, you guys :)
OK, I'll explain the detail.
First, when I say CapsLock, it's "the switch in capslock position", since you know, it's custom keyboard.
You can map any key there, I use CapsLock/Fn Layer Dual Action key.
(You saw my video, I change LED mode with capslock + another key, when hit once, it's caps lock, when typed with another key, it's Fn layer key. simple and useful.)
Somebody uses the position as Ctrl, (like HHKB)
So, it's not about key "function" , it's "position" matter.
When it comes to alps, position -REALLY- matters. Because of slim keycap choice option.
And CapsLock, Row3 1.75u Keycap.
Vintage CherryMX stem position is 1.25u (stepped capslock keycap), OEM MX stem position is 1.75u.
At this point, no problem.
But additional vintage Alps keycaps like AT101, SGI the stem makes it a lot complicated, it's at "1.5u" position.
It's not a problem if Vergo type.T-II PCB is designed only for Alps and another version of MX.
But it is combo-compatible. So yes, really is a problem.
When you place 1.25 MX + 1.25 Alps + 1.5 Alps + 1.75 MX + 1.75 Alps for one switch, the pads stick together in one big chunk of pad. 1.5 Alps pads makes bridge of all pads. So, it cannot be "switch".
Anyway, I just cracked this problem out. not delicate but yeh, it will works.
It looks like this.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NwTRWwi.png)
This can be a good news for those who planned to use AT101 keycaps for this PCB.
So will we be able to mix MX and ALPS?
If so that's awesome.
I thought they would need separate plates?
Ah, you guys :)
OK, I'll explain the detail.
First, when I say CapsLock, it's "the switch in capslock position", since you know, it's custom keyboard.
You can map any key there, I use CapsLock/Fn Layer Dual Action key.
(You saw my video, I change LED mode with capslock + another key, when hit once, it's caps lock, when typed with another key, it's Fn layer key. simple and useful.)
Somebody uses the position as Ctrl, (like HHKB)
So, it's not about key "function" , it's "position" matter.
When it comes to alps, position -REALLY- matters. Because of slim keycap choice option.
And CapsLock, Row3 1.75u Keycap.
Vintage CherryMX stem position is 1.25u (stepped capslock keycap), OEM MX stem position is 1.75u.
At this point, no problem.
But additional vintage Alps keycaps like AT101, SGI the stem makes it a lot complicated, it's at "1.5u" position.
It's not a problem if Vergo type.T-II PCB is designed only for Alps and another version of MX.
But it is combo-compatible. So yes, really is a problem.
When you place 1.25 MX + 1.25 Alps + 1.5 Alps + 1.75 MX + 1.75 Alps for one switch, the pads stick together in one big chunk of pad. 1.5 Alps pads makes bridge of all pads. So, it cannot be "switch".
Anyway, I just cracked this problem out. not delicate but yeh, it will works.
It looks like this.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NwTRWwi.png)
This can be a good news for those who planned to use AT101 keycaps for this PCB.
Man this is the best thing ever made. I need it still
Man this is the best thing ever made. I need it still
No avatar?
Man this is the best thing ever made. I need it still
No avatar?
was getting a little sick of it haha. Maybe i'll pick somethign new soon
Man this is the best thing ever made. I need it still
No avatar?
was getting a little sick of it haha. Maybe i'll pick somethign new soon
No avatar club!
Man this is the best thing ever made. I need it still
No avatar?
was getting a little sick of it haha. Maybe i'll pick somethign new soon
No avatar club!
But there is an avatar for having no avatar.... It might as well be club default avatar.
Man this is the best thing ever made. I need it still
No avatar?
was getting a little sick of it haha. Maybe i'll pick somethign new soon
No avatar club!
But there is an avatar for having no avatar.... It might as well be club default avatar.
As someone who used an ergodox briefly (a friend of mine owns/built it) it's super easy to transfer between it and regular boards! The only difficulty is pressing spacebar when you meant to hit backspace, once you've gotten used to the ergodox. Other than that, it's a really easy board to learn/use!This keyboard is like the mechanical Korean custom version of what I'm currently using at work:Show Image(http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/images/2008/Kinesis-Freestyle2-for-PC-91.jpg)
Actually, I have two FreeStyle.
When I design VE series, a adopted a lot features from it.
I wanted a mechanical keyboard, split, with similar layout.
Kinesis Freestyle is the best ready-made keyboard I have ever used.
Have you ever tried an ErgoDox?
No I didn't.
Layout is too much for me, I'm sure I cannot use any other keyboards after I adapted to Ergodox. that's why I didn't tried it.
It's near perfect. So afraid :-[
Yeah I need this board I would 100% join if this GB is open for everybody else!
papa franku gonna steal all yo board!Yeah I need this board I would 100% join if this GB is open for everybody else!
Just dont steal mine Pepe franku
We expect limit can be raised up to three digits. (100, not 999)This cracked me up!
My team is planning GB after holiday.yes yes yes bro! 100 board yes!
At this time, not much change from previous plan, but limitation of quantity can be much higher.
We expect limit can be raised up to three digits. (100, not 999)
We have only few(but big) things to settle or solve.
Now, the biggist issue is
Money-collecting... some friends warned me, my PP account can be locked when I try to withdraw certain amount money from it.
And to unlock that I have to send shipping receipt or something to PP as proof of transaction. but you know, I cannot do that.
I must pay factories for production before I get product. So, no shipping receipt...
I have no idea how I can fix this problem.
Any suggestion?
My team is planning GB after holiday.
At this time, not much change from previous plan, but limitation of quantity can be much higher.
We expect limit can be raised up to three digits. (100, not 999)
We have only few(but big) things to settle or solve.
Now, the biggist issue is
Money-collecting... some friends warned me, my PP account can be locked when I try to withdraw certain amount money from it.
And to unlock that I have to send shipping receipt or something to PP as proof of transaction. but you know, I cannot do that.
I must pay factories for production before I get product. So, no shipping receipt...
I have no idea how I can fix this problem.
Any suggestion?
...This is great news.
We expect limit can be raised up to three digits. (100, not 999)
...
I think you could use a method that ctrl alt io uses?
I think setting up a site with something like stripe for payments would be the solution
My team is planning GB after holiday.
At this time, not much change from previous plan, but limitation of quantity can be much higher.
We expect limit can be raised up to three digits. (100, not 999)
We have only few(but big) things to settle or solve.
Now, the biggist issue is
Money-collecting... some friends warned me, my PP account can be locked when I try to withdraw certain amount money from it.
And to unlock that I have to send shipping receipt or something to PP as proof of transaction. but you know, I cannot do that.
I must pay factories for production before I get product. So, no shipping receipt...
I have no idea how I can fix this problem.
Any suggestion?
My team is planning GB after holiday.
At this time, not much change from previous plan, but limitation of quantity can be much higher.
We expect limit can be raised up to three digits. (100, not 999)
We have only few(but big) things to settle or solve.
Now, the biggist issue is
Money-collecting... some friends warned me, my PP account can be locked when I try to withdraw certain amount money from it.
And to unlock that I have to send shipping receipt or something to PP as proof of transaction. but you know, I cannot do that.
I must pay factories for production before I get product. So, no shipping receipt...
I have no idea how I can fix this problem.
Any suggestion?
So, sorry if this already got answered, but will there be an option to just buy a PCB?
So, sorry if this already got answered, but will there be an option to just buy a PCB?No solid plan yet.
I just called PayPal customer center and got very disappointing answer for my issue.
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Question :
I changed by PP account to business account, and I will send invoices amount of 400~450USD for 100 peoples within 7 days.
I'll withdraw whole money in once.
My friends warned me PP will lock my account, so I cannot withdraw money. PP will release my account after I send proof of transaction of goods like shipping tracking number.
In this case, I have to pay factory for production. So, no goods nor shipping tracking number, I'll be dead-locked.
Is there any way to prevent this situation?
Answer :
No.
If you want use PP for business, you must have seed-money for production.
For example if you want to sell 70USD worth of goods, your seed money have to be over 200USD.
Question :
What you are saying is PP cannot be used for funding?
I must have actual merchandise before sending invoice?
Answer :
PP cannot be used for funding purpose.
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Is this true???????????????????????
What's the point about business account than??????????
Damn, I'm so angry now.
Man... what should I do now...
Can I sell "GroupBuy Entry Certification" as a electronic-goods?
even then, selling the bitcoins could be an issue. depending on where you're from i guess.
what about sites like gofundme or kickstarter?
I just called PayPal customer center and got very disappointing answer for my issue.
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Question :
I changed by PP account to business account, and I will send invoices amount of 400~450USD for 100 peoples within 7 days.
I'll withdraw whole money in once.
My friends warned me PP will lock my account, so I cannot withdraw money. PP will release my account after I send proof of transaction of goods like shipping tracking number.
In this case, I have to pay factory for production. So, no goods nor shipping tracking number, I'll be dead-locked.
Is there any way to prevent this situation?
Answer :
No.
If you want use PP for business, you must have seed-money for production.
For example if you want to sell 70USD worth of goods, your seed money have to be over 200USD.
Question :
What you are saying is PP cannot be used for funding?
I must have actual merchandise before sending invoice?
Answer :
PP cannot be used for funding purpose.
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Is this true???????????????????????
What's the point about business account than??????????
Damn, I'm so angry now.
Man... what should I do now...
Can I sell "GroupBuy Entry Certification" as a electronic-goods?
I had experience in handling ~30*$400+ orders. And i had no problem with the money withdraw. When then incoming fund reaches certain limit, paypal will prompt you to submit your personal details... to get your account verified or something. Sometimes paypal will also call you to ask about the transactions and also to offer you a better paypal rate for the following month.
Perhaps you can send out the invoices by stages. Let me know if you need any help with running the groupbuy.
https://deskthority.net/off-topic-f10/how-to-collect-money-with-paypal-and-avoid-problems-t7312.html
The important part, repeated here:
Only accept money paid for a service. This is really important. Reject any payments that are marked as being paid for purchased goods. If you look in PayPal at the transaction and see a drop-down list where you can mark the payment as shipped, reject the payment.
https://deskthority.net/off-topic-f10/how-to-collect-money-with-paypal-and-avoid-problems-t7312.html
The important part, repeated here:
Only accept money paid for a service. This is really important. Reject any payments that are marked as being paid for purchased goods. If you look in PayPal at the transaction and see a drop-down list where you can mark the payment as shipped, reject the payment.
I participated in a GB a while ago (HKP if I'm not mistaking) that had this way of processing payments. Alternatively, you can do what 7bit does for switches: Get other people to collect with e.g. google wallet and transfer the money to you.
Thanks!
it's a big help!
"payment for service", I'll check on that!
Sorry for asking again, but does this use PCB or Plate mounted switches?The PCB has the mounting holes, so you can use either.
Sorry for asking again, but does this use PCB or Plate mounted switches?
This looks great, can I still get in on this?
This looks great, can I still get in on this?
Sale period hasn't started yet
Announcement from VE.A team.
We are setting up GB in official form.
We established company to make sure about tax and money related issues and etc.
Still it's rather a gathering of hobbiest than a copration.
If things going with schedule. We can open GB within a month.
It's a little late than I said earlier but I really want to make this thing right, so nobody who interested wouldn't be left unattended.
Thanks for waiting geeks.
Really appriciated. ;)
Announcement from VE.A team.
We are setting up GB in official form.
We established company to make sure about tax and money related issues and etc.
Still it's rather a gathering of hobbiest than a coperation.
If things going with schedule. We can open GB within a month.
It's a little late than I said earlier but I really want to make this thing right, so nobody who interested wouldn't be left unattended.
Thanks for waiting geeks.
Really appriciated. ;)
inb4 half don't pay their invoices
inb4 half don't pay their invoices
lol only half?
Can't wait.As I know, part of taxes will be returned after reporting sales detail.
If you are setting up a company and you're exporting do you still need to pay sales tax? Most countries don't charge sales tax for goods they are exporting.
Can't wait for more details on this buy, especially color options. I will most likely go for black though.
Dark Grey. Loved the way the color looked on my digilog, can't even handle how sexy it will look on this board.Isn't the Digilog more of a brown, though? At least, that's how looks in most pics.
Dark Grey. Loved the way the color looked on my digilog, can't even handle how sexy it will look on this board.Isn't the Digilog more of a brown, though? At least, that's how looks in most pics.
Silver All the way! Well maybe dark grey :)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/402/258/003/d53bb1411914bbb15b86a6ae44873fd9.jpg)
source (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3258402&mid=board_Lsno50)
Silver All the way! Well maybe dark grey :)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/402/258/003/d53bb1411914bbb15b86a6ae44873fd9.jpg)
source (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3258402&mid=board_Lsno50)
Silver All the way! Well maybe dark grey :)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/402/258/003/d53bb1411914bbb15b86a6ae44873fd9.jpg)
source (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3258402&mid=board_Lsno50)
That switch mounting plate is Titanium-coated version.
Neat, isn't it?
any idea on how many spots there will be for the GB?
any idea on how many spots there will be for the GB?
Unlimited.
If things goes really well.
any idea on how many spots there will be for the GB?
Unlimited.
If things goes really well.
any idea on how many spots there will be for the GB?
Unlimited.
If things goes really well.
any idea on how many spots there will be for the GB?
Unlimited.
If things goes really well.
What's the price looking at? If there is a lot of orders I hope it could be around $300.
any idea on how many spots there will be for the GB?
Unlimited.
If things goes really well.
What's the price looking at? If there is a lot of orders I hope it could be around $300.
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.
Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.
Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.
I wouldn't care about defeating the purpose at $300. That being said, no way this board is only $300.
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.
Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.
Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.
I wouldn't care about defeating the purpose at $300. That being said, no way this board is only $300.
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.
Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.
I wouldn't care about defeating the purpose at $300. That being said, no way this board is only $300.
IIRC the original GB went for ~$420 or so. Given the large increase in quantity it should definitely lower the price. It's a great custom don't get me wrong, but not one that I would be willing to pay $400+ for at this point.
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.
Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.
I wouldn't care about defeating the purpose at $300. That being said, no way this board is only $300.
IIRC the original GB went for ~$420 or so. Given the large increase in quantity it should definitely lower the price. It's a great custom don't get me wrong, but not one that I would be willing to pay $400+ for at this point.
I would still expect ~$400. You can only save so much by buying in bulk. Eventually the price just gets as low as possible.
You highly underestimate the interest in this keyboard.
Orders for the Octagon V2 shot up above 100 within the day. :confused:
You highly underestimate the interest in this keyboard.
Orders for the Octagon V2 shot up above 100 within the day. :confused:
You highly underestimate the interest in this keyboard.
Orders for the Octagon V2 shot up above 100 within the day. :confused:
Or maybe a select few are over-hyping it. You never know until it is actually time for people to open their wallets.
I am ordering! No doubt!
I am ordering! No doubt!
any idea on how many spots there will be for the GB?
Unlimited.
If things goes really well.
Silver All the way! Well maybe dark grey :)
Will the bottom row support 7x space bar and 1.5x mods? Don't see it in the pic.This is a split keyboard my friend :thumb:
Lol i went by the pics only. But will the bottom row support 1.5x mods?Will the bottom row support 7x space bar and 1.5x mods? Don't see it in the pic.This is a split keyboard my friend :thumb:
PartiallyLol i went by the pics only. But will the bottom row support 1.5x mods?Will the bottom row support 7x space bar and 1.5x mods? Don't see it in the pic.This is a split keyboard my friend :thumb:
PartiallyLol i went by the pics only. But will the bottom row support 1.5x mods?Will the bottom row support 7x space bar and 1.5x mods? Don't see it in the pic.This is a split keyboard my friend :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gjgytnL.png)
Just found these pics on Taobao.They are so quick....Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Uk0j5OD.jpg?1)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uDGn46I.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9wKZ6Rs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UXMYlIs.png)
Just found these pics on Taobao.They are so quick....Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Uk0j5OD.jpg?1)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uDGn46I.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9wKZ6Rs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UXMYlIs.png)
Just found these pics on Taobao.They are so quick....Looks efficient, nice. Cable idea also very good. I'm gonna benchmark it for next version of VE.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Uk0j5OD.jpg?1)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uDGn46I.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9wKZ6Rs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UXMYlIs.png)
Are there any pics of a disassembled VE.A.
Would be cool to see what it looks like.
I don't have any.
Was wondering if you could.
Sorry if I caused any offence.
Just thought it would be cool to see if there were any.
i remember recommending this when ergodox first started out or some other split keyboard project.. I don't remember but anywho:
What if the split sides had magnets so when you put both sides together they "snap" on. Probably too much trouble to make adjustments now for magnets but would be a pretty neat feature, no? :P
i remember recommending this when ergodox first started out or some other split keyboard project.. I don't remember but anywho:
What if the split sides had magnets so when you put both sides together they "snap" on. Probably too much trouble to make adjustments now for magnets but would be a pretty neat feature, no? :P
Yes it can be attractive for someone.
But practically, keyboard is meant to be used as 'stationary', so even if there's no magnet snap-on mechanism, it will be firmly fixed on desk.
I'm 100% sure because I'm using VE.A all-day :)
UHK made this feature by using socket-pin mechanism. It's really great. It's not just for fixing, it's for add-ons(like thumb track-point), and with that, no inter-cable needed. HOW GREAT IS THAT!!!
Haha, you are such a humble guy, Zefyr. I'm glad that you do not turn your nose up to other boards and respect and learn from other's work in this hobby. It's awesome to have such an enthusiastic member in our community. :)
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
:owill get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
Can I ask who sold VE.A to you?
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
Can I ask who sold VE.A to you?
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
Can I ask who sold VE.A to you?
Gonna be awkward if Zefyr was the one who sold it to him directly. :))
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
Can I ask who sold VE.A to you?
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo someone's in trouble.
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo someone's in trouble.
I thought it was okay to sell kustoms at face value...?
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo someone's in trouble.
I thought it was okay to sell kustoms at face value...?
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo someone's in trouble.
I thought it was okay to sell kustoms at face value...?
Now only if someone would sell me their 356cl at the korean group buy price.
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo someone's in trouble.
I thought it was okay to sell kustoms at face value...?
Now only if someone would sell me their 356cl at the korean group buy price.
Sure just pay $6000 in pp fee
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo someone's in trouble.
I thought it was okay to sell kustoms at face value...?
Now only if someone would sell me their 356cl at the korean group buy price.
Sure just pay $6000 in pp fee
I think you are missing a zero.
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo someone's in trouble.
I thought it was okay to sell kustoms at face value...?
Now only if someone would sell me their 356cl at the korean group buy price.
Sure just pay $6000 in pp fee
I think you are missing a zero.
$0000 in pp fee it is.
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo someone's in trouble.
I thought it was okay to sell kustoms at face value...?
Now only if someone would sell me their 356cl at the korean group buy price.
Sure just pay $6000 in pp fee
I think you are missing a zero.
$0000 in pp fee it is.
Always gotta make sure you take into account the pp fee.
did someone say drama???
did someone say drama???
You bet your ass they did
did someone say drama???
You bet your ass they did
great because that's what i'm here for.
oh and i'd like a VE.A pls
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
Ur wrong the correct answer is always ALPSwill get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
Better be cherry.
Ur wrong the correct answer is always ALPSwill get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
Better be cherry.
Ur wrong the correct answer is always ALPSwill get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
Better be cherry.
I'm just joking manUr wrong the correct answer is always ALPSwill get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
Better be cherry.
Up for that,
But I'm pretty sure he don't have plate for ALPS.
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
Cannot wait for your buildlog. :)will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
67g zealios, so cherry:)
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
67g zealios, so cherry:)
Cannot wait for your buildlog. :)will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
67g zealios, so cherry:)
will get a 2nd one if this happens. :thumb:
You already have ONE, henz? :eek:
Yep!:)
So are you using an Alps layout or Cherry MX?
67g zealios, so cherry:)
Ding, I will be using 65g tactile zealios too. If you have any questions or run into anything that could be a hidden roadblock feel free to PM me (managed to get a kit also) :D
We are producing sample for new GB.
It's almost done.
We will announce exact schedule when sample and other preparation is good and ready.
It's harder than I thought...
Please, be patient :)
This will happen for sure.
We are producing sample for new GB.
It's almost done.
We will announce exact schedule when sample and other preparation is good and ready.
It's harder than I thought...
Please, be patient :)
This will happen for sure.
We are producing sample for new GB.
It's almost done.
We will announce exact schedule when sample and other preparation is good and ready.
It's harder than I thought...
Please, be patient :)
This will happen for sure.
Thank you for the update. Any modifications to your current VE.A designs, or production manufacturing changes? Hopefully it's still made in Korea and the production quality will not be compromised by the larger quantities. :)
Zef,
I can't hold it any longer.....
I NEEED IT MAN
We are producing sample for new GB.
It's almost done.
We will announce exact schedule when sample and other preparation is good and ready.
It's harder than I thought...
Please, be patient :)
This will happen for sure.
Thank you for the update. Any modifications to your current VE.A designs, or production manufacturing changes? Hopefully it's still made in Korea and the production quality will not be compromised by the larger quantities. :)
That's what we are arranging now.
It will be made in Korea. Quality is all that we care.
We are producing sample for new GB.
It's almost done.
We will announce exact schedule when sample and other preparation is good and ready.
It's harder than I thought...
Please, be patient :)
This will happen for sure.
Thank you for the update. Any modifications to your current VE.A designs, or production manufacturing changes? Hopefully it's still made in Korea and the production quality will not be compromised by the larger quantities. :)
That's what we are arranging now.
It will be made in Korea. Quality is all that we care.
I wonder what colors are available?
I wonder what colors are available?
For now, Silver/Black/DarkGrey
But sample of DarkGrey is not good... I'll make another sample.
Man... sampling cost is too much.
I wonder what colors are available?
For now, Silver/Black/DarkGrey
But sample of DarkGrey is not good... I'll make another sample.
Man... sampling cost is too much.
For now, Silver/Black/DarkGrey
But sample of DarkGrey is not good... I'll make another sample.
Man... sampling cost is too much.
just got scammed for $500, but I will still try to get it!
just got scammed for $500, but I will still try to get it!
crap man, suck that **** happened to you. Gonna bring the paypal protection hammer on him?
just got scammed for $500, but I will still try to get it!
crap man, suck that **** happened to you. Gonna bring the paypal protection hammer on him?
yeah I'm gonna have to. see my signature... what an idiot
If only STS plates are offered, are files available for the plate design? I might want to get another material plate made :thumb:
I saw the review/build log and now I can hardly contain my lust for this keyboard. Take my money please!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3PquXT8.jpg)
I saw the review/build log and now I can hardly contain my lust for this keyboard. Take my money please!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3PquXT8.jpg)
Build log? Where :-X
I saw the review/build log and now I can hardly contain my lust for this keyboard. Take my money please!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3PquXT8.jpg)
Build log? Where :-X
Oh, um. Mine I suppose. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80849.0
The problem with end game keyboards, is that ultimately, you end up collecting end game keyboards...Can't agree more, lol
bumpNice website~
Announcement 2016-04-05
We launched official website.
http://oddforge.com/
Thanks for your patience.
bump
Announcement 2016-04-05
We launched official website.
http://oddforge.com/
Thanks for your patience.
What is everyone doing for spacebars? Are those just blank R4 Shifts or... ?
I space with the left hand. It's a shame the position of the shorter space and FN key can't be swapped to the right half.
What is everyone doing for spacebars? Are those just blank R4 Shifts or... ?
I space with the left hand. It's a shame the position of the shorter space and FN key can't be swapped to the right half.
What is everyone doing for spacebars? Are those just blank R4 Shifts or... ?
I space with the left hand. It's a shame the position of the shorter space and FN key can't be swapped to the right half.
i spaced with the wrong hand before as well, you should change!
I'm also a left-thumb user. Maybe I'll wait for the next version of this then. :)What is everyone doing for spacebars? Are those just blank R4 Shifts or... ?
I space with the left hand. It's a shame the position of the shorter space and FN key can't be swapped to the right half.
Left space bar is number pad 2x 0 keycap.
Right space bar is 2.75x right shift keycap.
Position if ThumbFN is pretty controversial so I'll work on that for next version.
how heavy are these going to be?
What is everyone doing for spacebars? Are those just blank R4 Shifts or... ?
I space with the left hand. It's a shame the position of the shorter space and FN key can't be swapped to the right half.
i spaced with the wrong hand before as well, you should change!
Yeah I just checked. My left thumb rides right between V and B on the spacebar in staggered QWERTY and that's exactly where you've placed the Fn key in the default layout. This layout is no good for me. What a bummer! I suppose I'll have to wait for Version 2. :(What is everyone doing for spacebars? Are those just blank R4 Shifts or... ?
I space with the left hand. It's a shame the position of the shorter space and FN key can't be swapped to the right half.
Left space bar is number pad 2x 0 keycap.
Right space bar is 2.75x right shift keycap.
Position if ThumbFN is pretty controversial so I'll work on that for next version.
Yeah I just checked. My left thumb rides right between V and B on the spacebar in staggered QWERTY and that's exactly where you've placed the Fn key in the default layout. This layout is no good for me. What a bummer! I suppose I'll have to wait for Version 2. :(
how heavy are these going to be?
OP mentioned approx. 1 Kg / side.
Considering this vote there should be an option to change Layout:
https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/which-thumb-do-you-use-for-the-space-bar-t12936.html
I'm listening guys :)
And working on that.
I'm listening guys :)
And working on that.
:thumb:
Just a thought: if the locations of the 2u left Space and left Fn were reversed (or if there was an option for it on the PCB) that would be an easy fix for me.
I'm listening guys :)
And working on that.
I'm listening guys :)
And working on that.
If you add an option for the opposite spacebar configuration, the current option will still exist too, right? I'm right handed and hit space with my right thumb (between N and M) and so the default configuration would be ideal for me.
Really, really excited about this buy -- this board is endgame for me. Any more updates on the timeline and when we will be able to buy?
Zefyr, will we be able to get just pcb and plate?
Announcement from team oddforge
As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.
We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.
At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)
Thanks for waiting everyone.
Announcement from team oddforgeAwesome. I'm ready for it! Where is my time machine? ;D
As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.
We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.
At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)
Thanks for waiting everyone.
Announcement from team oddforge
As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.
We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.
At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)
Thanks for waiting everyone.
Announcement from team oddforge
As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.
We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.
At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)
Thanks for waiting everyone.
Thanks for the update Zefyr. Will there be any compromises in quality by going through MassDrop, or will you try to stay true to your GB, V2 version?
I suggest you speak to Massdrop and be very specific regarding the details of HOW the keyboards need to be packed/protected for shipment, otherwise many people will receive damaged product.
Thanks for the update Zefyr. Will there be any compromises in quality by going through MassDrop, or will you try to stay true to your GB, V2 version?
Personal customized marking plate will not be provided, only common product signature marking plate will be included.
Except that, no quality compromise. We have really strict standard about quality. - Only Quality Matters -
And I don't understand what you are meaning "V2"?
Announcement from team oddforge
As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.
We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.
At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)
Thanks for waiting everyone.
Ahh, I thought the VE.A that just ran in S. Korea was the V2. My confusion.
Announcement from team oddforge
As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.
We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.
At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)
Thanks for waiting everyone.
Additional Announcement.
I have to say really sorry for Alps fans since Alps switch mounting plate will not be provided in Massdrop.
I believe all Alps fans can understand why I removed this option.
But I'll explain anyway.
Alps mounting system is very strict about layout.
It has no sustain pins like Cherry MX, and stabilizers is mounted on mounting plate so "Universal Alps plate" cannot be made.
Plus, there's no "Standard" keycap sets for alps (except Matias, but I don't want to limit selection of keycaps.).
So, We will share alps plate drawing on public.
And for who have no access to metalworks shop, we will accept order of Alps plate in our website.
This can make you spend another shipping money. but at this time, I have no better way.
Sorry again and thank you for your understanding in advance :)
I wonder if we can request direct shipment from korea instead of korea > USA > Asia ?
I wonder if we can request direct shipment from korea instead of korea > USA > Asia ?
To avoid direct shipping (individual) work/risk is one of many reasons that we are working with Massdrop.
Sorry my friend.
now that you're working with massdrop will there be an option to buy it assembled?
Announcement from team oddforge
As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.
We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.
At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)
Thanks for waiting everyone.
I wonder if we can request direct shipment from korea instead of korea > USA > Asia ?
To avoid direct shipping (individual) work/risk is one of many reasons that we are working with Massdrop.
Sorry my friend.
Very excited about this news! Can you give an estimate of what the price and estimated shipping time will be once it's launched on MassDrop? Definitely going to be in on this GB :)
Announcement from team oddforge
As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.
We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.
At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)
Thanks for waiting everyone.
Announcement from team oddforge
As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.
We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.
At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)
Thanks for waiting everyone.
Dang! Crazy! Massdrop actually getting a Korean custom...
Never thought I'd see the day.
I feel that one of the reason this is going through Massdrop is because of the payment. Credit card and paypal payment collection will probably be easier with an establish company.
Logistic with Massdrop usually is good, though the shipping fee is bad for most other countries, outside of US.
They are afterall a middleman to facilitate groupbuys. Damages usually caused by postal companies.
Hope that VE.A will be a success
I feel that one of the reason this is going through Massdrop is because of the payment. Credit card and paypal payment collection will probably be easier with an establish company.
Logistic with Massdrop usually is good, though the shipping fee is bad for most other countries, outside of US.
They are afterall a middleman to facilitate groupbuys. Damages usually caused by postal companies.
Hope that VE.A will be a success
The damages are almost always caused by inferior packaging, not postal handling.
I feel that one of the reason this is going through Massdrop is because of the payment. Credit card and paypal payment collection will probably be easier with an establish company.
Logistic with Massdrop usually is good, though the shipping fee is bad for most other countries, outside of US.
They are afterall a middleman to facilitate groupbuys. Damages usually caused by postal companies.
Hope that VE.A will be a success
The damages are almost always caused by inferior packaging, not postal handling.
I feel that one of the reason this is going through Massdrop is because of the payment. Credit card and paypal payment collection will probably be easier with an establish company.
Logistic with Massdrop usually is good, though the shipping fee is bad for most other countries, outside of US.
They are afterall a middleman to facilitate groupbuys. Damages usually caused by postal companies.
Hope that VE.A will be a success
The damages are almost always caused by inferior packaging, not postal handling.
I don't know what's the big deal. TA was bad but rest of my mass drop stuff has been fine.
I feel that one of the reason this is going through Massdrop is because of the payment. Credit card and paypal payment collection will probably be easier with an establish company.
Logistic with Massdrop usually is good, though the shipping fee is bad for most other countries, outside of US.
They are afterall a middleman to facilitate groupbuys. Damages usually caused by postal companies.
Hope that VE.A will be a success
The damages are almost always caused by inferior packaging, not postal handling.
I don't know what's the big deal. TA was bad but rest of my mass drop stuff has been fine.
They did a really good job for my infinity ergodox. Everything was wrap in their individual bubble wrap and nothing was damage.
I feel that one of the reason this is going through Massdrop is because of the payment. Credit card and paypal payment collection will probably be easier with an establish company.
Logistic with Massdrop usually is good, though the shipping fee is bad for most other countries, outside of US.
They are afterall a middleman to facilitate groupbuys. Damages usually caused by postal companies.
Hope that VE.A will be a success
The damages are almost always caused by inferior packaging, not postal handling.
I don't know what's the big deal. TA was bad but rest of my mass drop stuff has been fine.
They did a really good job for my infinity ergodox. Everything was wrap in their individual bubble wrap and nothing was damage.
Now let's see how they handle metal.
Peanuts and those weird giant airbags aren't going to be good enough.
I feel that one of the reason this is going through Massdrop is because of the payment. Credit card and paypal payment collection will probably be easier with an establish company.
Logistic with Massdrop usually is good, though the shipping fee is bad for most other countries, outside of US.
They are afterall a middleman to facilitate groupbuys. Damages usually caused by postal companies.
Hope that VE.A will be a success
The damages are almost always caused by inferior packaging, not postal handling.
Not a big fan of massdrop either. As the others have said, not a big fan of their process plus tax on top of the price.
IMO Massdrop has lousy international shipping timings. But I have to agree that MD is a great way to gain traction if you are expecting a lot of orders.
For korean customs, if the intention is to make < 100 units, the advantage is not that obvious. And, honestly, I rather the manufacturer take their own time to do a limited quantity to ensure quality, than to do a big quantity, sacrificing quality.
I want to be kept safe while money transaction as you guys.
And shipping is a lot of work for me and my small team. Domestic ahipping was hard. How it can be when it comes to international?
Yes quantity also matters to me. If quantity goes higher(within I can cover) I can regain my sampling and development expenses. It is not a charity work, just hobby.
I want more people uses my keyboard cause that would be huge encourage for my next piece.
I have been suffered significant stresses while organizing this GB since it is my first international GB.
IMO Massdrop has lousy international shipping timings. But I have to agree that MD is a great way to gain traction if you are expecting a lot of orders.
For korean customs, if the intention is to make < 100 units, the advantage is not that obvious. And, honestly, I rather the manufacturer take their own time to do a limited quantity to ensure quality, than to do a big quantity, sacrificing quality.
I am gonna say this again.
Quality matters to me just like yoy guys.
Who want to use clumsy product with this hell-high price? Haha.
My factory also produces smartphone cases. Which is massive.
You don't have to worry about quality, it's under control.
I have good team to check quality several steps plus massdrop will check again.
I already sent sample to massdrop and that would be standard for production.
And there is a lot more reasons why I am working with massdrop besides quantity.
I want to be kept safe while money transaction as you guys.
It is not that I do not believe people. It is from my past experience.
With massdrop, this works both for me and you.
And shipping is a lot of work for me and my small team. Domestic ahipping was hard. How it can be when it comes to international?
OK to be honest
Yes quantity also matters to me. If quantity goes higher(within I can cover) I can regain my sampling and development expenses. It is not a charity work, just hobby.
I want more people uses my keyboard cause that would be huge encourage for my next piece.
I have been suffered significant stresses while organizing this GB since it is my first international GB.
I just want it to be right.
Thanks for your support all of you geekhackers!
IMO Massdrop has lousy international shipping timings. But I have to agree that MD is a great way to gain traction if you are expecting a lot of orders.
For korean customs, if the intention is to make < 100 units, the advantage is not that obvious. And, honestly, I rather the manufacturer take their own time to do a limited quantity to ensure quality, than to do a big quantity, sacrificing quality.
I am gonna say this again.
Quality matters to me just like yoy guys.
Who want to use clumsy product with this hell-high price? Haha.
My factory also produces smartphone cases. Which is massive.
You don't have to worry about quality, it's under control.
I have good team to check quality several steps plus massdrop will check again.
I already sent sample to massdrop and that would be standard for production.
And there is a lot more reasons why I am working with massdrop besides quantity.
I want to be kept safe while money transaction as you guys.
It is not that I do not believe people. It is from my past experience.
With massdrop, this works both for me and you.
And shipping is a lot of work for me and my small team. Domestic ahipping was hard. How it can be when it comes to international?
OK to be honest
Yes quantity also matters to me. If quantity goes higher(within I can cover) I can regain my sampling and development expenses. It is not a charity work, just hobby.
I want more people uses my keyboard cause that would be huge encourage for my next piece.
I have been suffered significant stresses while organizing this GB since it is my first international GB.
I just want it to be right.
Thanks for your support all of you geekhackers!
Hi zefyr, you mentioned production sample. Any updates about the bottom row spacebar layout for left thumb users?
A little disappointed about the exclusion of the ALPS plate.
However, that just means I can use a more suitable material for blue ALPS. While I realise softer materials will disrupt the integrity of the ALPS mounting, I value what a different material would do for the sound and tactility.
Not a big fan of massdrop either. As the others have said, not a big fan of their process plus tax on top of the price.
Agreed. I stopped using massdrop awhile ago after a horrible customer service experience.
Not a big fan of massdrop either. As the others have said, not a big fan of their process plus tax on top of the price.
Agreed. I stopped using massdrop awhile ago after a horrible customer service experience.
What happened? We do our best to make sure everyone is happy.
Not a big fan of massdrop either. As the others have said, not a big fan of their process plus tax on top of the price.
Agreed. I stopped using massdrop awhile ago after a horrible customer service experience.
What happened? We do our best to make sure everyone is happy.
Not a big fan of massdrop either. As the others have said, not a big fan of their process plus tax on top of the price.
Agreed. I stopped using massdrop awhile ago after a horrible customer service experience.
What happened? We do our best to make sure everyone is happy.
About two years ago, a product was shipped but never received. I emailed about 5 or 6 different Massdrop emails, but never received a reply. I was disappointed but not that upset as the product was only $20. I am less inclined to trust Massdrop for the purchase of a several hundred dollar keyboard, in which there is a lot more risk and time delay. Like I said, it was just a negative experience I had with a low value product, and although the customer service may be somewhat improved now, I have had friends with similar experiences to what Karura mentioned.
I've never had an issue with Massdrop personally customer service wise, but packaging leaves something to be desired for keycaps.Which packaging it's always a factor of cost + quality. In the case of tray packaging, while it is light, it is also big. When this happens, the package actually ships under something called dimension weight, which costs more to ship. That's why a lot of times we default to baggies.
Finally, if anyone has concerns or anything else regarding Massdrop, Alex and I are always around and would love to chat in our vendor forum or over PM. Feel free to let us know your thoughts!
Wow, gosh. This keyboard looks like a dream. I have not ordered for massdrop but some of these warnings scare me. Still seriously considering though.
It's funny, when I read threads like the TX 1800, and all of Ivans threads people are all saying "screw GB's on here they're all scams lately" and "I'll only take part in massdrop drops at least with this I know I'll get something" now when someone hosts a GB on massdrop it's back to the classic "massdrop is the scum of the earth how dare they scratch my keycaps" Go look at CtrlAlt's Hyperfuse GMK set, there are tons of pictures of scratched keycaps, and no one is throwing a fit about how bad they're doing with shipping, the double standards and hypocrisy is crazy here.
It's funny, when I read threads like the TX 1800, and all of Ivans threads people are all saying "screw GB's on here they're all scams lately" and "I'll only take part in massdrop drops at least with this I know I'll get something" now when someone hosts a GB on massdrop it's back to the classic "massdrop is the scum of the earth how dare they scratch my keycaps" Go look at CtrlAlt's Hyperfuse GMK set, there are tons of pictures of scratched keycaps, and no one is throwing a fit about how bad they're doing with shipping, the double standards and hypocrisy is crazy here.
A couple of questions.
1. What stabilizers will be used? Cherry or Costar
2. What is the legend layout for the keys? Will you please provide a keyboard layout grid?
3. Is the wrist rest you use in the video optional or just for display?
4. What are the 3 lights on the left side of the left board (1:48/2:04 in the video shows a view of the leds on the top near VE.A)
5. Will feet be offered?
6. Will there be an angle tilt and if so, what angle degree?
7. Will key switches be included with the kit?
8. What is the weight of the two pieces in grams?
9. Will the switches be plate mounted?
10. Does the PCB support key switch LEDs?
11. Micro, mini, or USB-C connector and USB2.0 or USB3.0?
12. What are the color options for the aluminum plates?
Thank you for your responses
Definitely not a couple questions :confused:
It's funny, when I read threads like the TX 1800, and all of Ivans threads people are all saying "screw GB's on here they're all scams lately" and "I'll only take part in massdrop drops at least with this I know I'll get something" now when someone hosts a GB on massdrop it's back to the classic "massdrop is the scum of the earth how dare they scratch my keycaps" Go look at CtrlAlt's Hyperfuse GMK set, there are tons of pictures of scratched keycaps, and no one is throwing a fit about how bad they're doing with shipping, the double standards and hypocrisy is crazy here.
A couple of questions.
1. What stabilizers will be used? Cherry or Costar
2. What is the legend layout for the keys? Will you please provide a keyboard layout grid?
3. Is the wrist rest you use in the video optional or just for display?
4. What are the 3 lights on the left side of the left board (1:48/2:04 in the video shows a view of the leds on the top near VE.A)
5. Will feet be offered?
6. Will there be an angle tilt and if so, what angle degree?
7. Will key switches be included with the kit?
8. What is the weight of the two pieces in grams?
9. Will the switches be plate mounted?
10. Does the PCB support key switch LEDs?
11. Micro, mini, or USB-C connector and USB2.0 or USB3.0?
12. What are the color options for the aluminum plates?
Thank you for your responses
Is it May yet?
I have skimmed through this thread but I was not able to find a price. I have joined the drop for an Ergodox but depending on price I think I might want to wait for this one. But, that depends on what it is going to cost. It looks like a great board, I am hoping it is not to expensive......
Thanks!
That's a good estimation. If you look at what it cost to run it in Korea and factor in the taxes and massdrops cut then it will be along the price you suggested.I have skimmed through this thread but I was not able to find a price. I have joined the drop for an Ergodox but depending on price I think I might want to wait for this one. But, that depends on what it is going to cost. It looks like a great board, I am hoping it is not to expensive......
Thanks!
Just a wild guess, but I'd say it'd be about double the price of the barebones Ergo.
Don't quote me on it, though!
I have skimmed through this thread but I was not able to find a price. I have joined the drop for an Ergodox but depending on price I think I might want to wait for this one. But, that depends on what it is going to cost. It looks like a great board, I am hoping it is not to expensive......
Thanks!
[2016-02-06] Price and Taxes
Former mentioned price range (which is 400~450) was not includes tax.
When I ran GB in Korea, it was considered as personal hobby thing.
And domestic wire-transfer doesn't bring any attraction of Taxation bureau.
But when I'm doing this with you -overseas- guys, that will ring the alarm.
I confirmed this from friends who is in overseas trading business.
So, I'm crunching numbers with my partner. (Man I didn't realize it's that complicated.)
Korean tax starts from 10% of VAT and there's additional income tax. plus PP fee.
When I calculated, that makes the price starts from 456USD minimum, God(Tax-an God) only knows how much higher it could be. the income tax can be up to 38%!!! I had no idea about it.
I'll try to keep it as low as I can. but here's where I'm standing now.
It's May so we are getting closer to it launching
WOOP WOOP!
My wallet is not ready yetHow about your body?
The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised.My wallet is not ready yetHow about your body?
Am I the only one who keeps refreshing MD? :))
If I use ALPS to MX stem adapters, how should I best specific my ALPS custom plate in the order? I'm planning on using DSA MX caps and can deal with the excess height. And any suggestions on which stabilizers to use?
I am just sitting here drooling all over this knowing I can never afford it :(
If I use ALPS to MX stem adapters, how should I best specific my ALPS custom plate in the order? I'm planning on using DSA MX caps and can deal with the excess height. And any suggestions on which stabilizers to use?
If I use ALPS to MX stem adapters, how should I best specific my ALPS custom plate in the order? I'm planning on using DSA MX caps and can deal with the excess height. And any suggestions on which stabilizers to use?
Alps adapters will make original alps stabilizers not usable.
You have to search for another option I think.
If I use ALPS to MX stem adapters, how should I best specific my ALPS custom plate in the order? I'm planning on using DSA MX caps and can deal with the excess height. And any suggestions on which stabilizers to use?
If I use ALPS to MX stem adapters, how should I best specific my ALPS custom plate in the order? I'm planning on using DSA MX caps and can deal with the excess height. And any suggestions on which stabilizers to use?
Where did you source the adapters from?
Am I the only one who keeps refreshing MD? :))
Nope, trying to keep a close eye myself.
If I use ALPS to MX stem adapters, how should I best specific my ALPS custom plate in the order? I'm planning on using DSA MX caps and can deal with the excess height. And any suggestions on which stabilizers to use?
Alps adapters will make original alps stabilizers not usable.
You have to search for another option I think.
Yes, that's true. I got "MX to MX adapters" as well. Basically, I can use them on MX stabilizers and add the height to match the ALPS to MX adapters. So is it possible to use ALPS switches and MX stabilizers of the PCB? And does it use Cherry or Costar in the VE.A?
How soon is now?
Will the stand be also part of the drop?
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160514/3232ab9bffc0ce6fb9c59c2b66da7818.jpg)How soon is now?
just wait it will be here soon before you know it
Smiths are overrated.Yes
Will the stand be also part of the drop?
I believe he's stated that it will not, but the plans will be provided
How soon is now?
We are doing some final touch on drop page.Excited :)
Almost set.
Oh manHow soon is now?
We are doing some final touch on drop page.
Almost set.
Anddd it's up on massdrop!
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ve-a?mode=guest_open
$400 is a little more than I'd thought for Massdrop, but on par for what u was assuming had it been run here. Might still join, though.
$400 is a little more than I'd thought for Massdrop, but on par for what u was assuming had it been run here. Might still join, though.
I just hope it reaches MOQ....
$400 is a little more than I'd thought for Massdrop, but on par for what u was assuming had it been run here. Might still join, though.
I just hope it reaches MOQ....
Only black, drak grey and silver for the case? I wish to have more options...Yeah, I'm lucky since I wanted black anyways, but the options are pretty limited.
without the left spacebar fix/option I think I'll have to sit this one out and hope for a V2 + R2.
without the left spacebar fix/option I think I'll have to sit this one out and hope for a V2 + R2.
I've forgotten (or missed) what the left spacebar fix/option you are referring to is. Can someone refresh my memory?
Zefyr mentioned swapping the left spacebar and left Fn keys - or at least making it optional - for us left-hand spacers. The Fn key in the default layout is exactly where I hit the spacebar on a typical ANSI 125 layout. That change doesn't appear to have made it to the Massdrop version of the group buy.You made me check where I hit my spacebar. I think I end up just barely left of where the fn key is. If not then I have a bit of a learning curve ahead of me.
without the left spacebar fix/option I think I'll have to sit this one out and hope for a V2 + R2.
I've forgotten (or missed) what the left spacebar fix/option you are referring to is. Can someone refresh my memory?
OMG Hoff is talking to me. /swoon
Zefyr mentioned swapping the left spacebar and left Fn keys - or at least making it optional - for us left-hand spacers. The Fn key in the default layout is exactly where I hit the spacebar on a typical ANSI 125 layout. That change doesn't appear to have made it to the Massdrop version of the group buy.
I guess there's also the option of mapping that fn to space, though that's not ideal.
Interesting. I'm a left hand spacer as well (though I'm right handed), and this is the first time I've noticed this, really critical fact.
Will either have to adjust ergonomically, or consider for the R2 as you say.
OMG Hoff is talking to me. /swoon
Zefyr mentioned swapping the left spacebar and left Fn keys - or at least making it optional - for us left-hand spacers. The Fn key in the default layout is exactly where I hit the spacebar on a typical ANSI 125 layout. That change doesn't appear to have made it to the Massdrop version of the group buy.
without the left spacebar fix/option I think I'll have to sit this one out and hope for a V2 + R2.
I've forgotten (or missed) what the left spacebar fix/option you are referring to is. Can someone refresh my memory?
OMG Hoff is talking to me. /swoon
Zefyr mentioned swapping the left spacebar and left Fn keys - or at least making it optional - for us left-hand spacers. The Fn key in the default layout is exactly where I hit the spacebar on a typical ANSI 125 layout. That change doesn't appear to have made it to the Massdrop version of the group buy.
Is buying the Gateron switches the cheapest way to get the number of stabilizers I need for this board? Description says a set of 8 stabilizers, which I assume are all 2u, and the only place I know where to get PCB mounted Cherry stabs are from zeal at $10 for a set of 4 x 2u and a 1x 6.25u, which would mean I would need to buy two sets, which is basically the same price as Gat switches plus stabs from the GB.
Is buying the Gateron switches the cheapest way to get the number of stabilizers I need for this board? Description says a set of 8 stabilizers, which I assume are all 2u, and the only place I know where to get PCB mounted Cherry stabs are from zeal at $10 for a set of 4 x 2u and a 1x 6.25u, which would mean I would need to buy two sets, which is basically the same price as Gat switches plus stabs from the GB.
probably. I am going to just sell the switches since they don't offer the ones I want to use with it :(
So, we're pretty sure there will be an R2?
So, we're pretty sure there will be an R2?
Is the massdrop buy limited in spots? Would really like to know.
anyone interested, this is the silver color:
http://imgur.com/a/yBTm0
Oddforge.com has pics of the dark grey
massdrop has black pics
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Any option to get the stabilizers without buying any keys?
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So, we're pretty sure there will be an R2?
How so? R1 just hit the western market this morning.
anyone interested, this is the silver color:
http://imgur.com/a/yBTm0
Oddforge.com has pics of the dark grey
massdrop has black pics
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
anyone interested, this is the silver color:
http://imgur.com/a/yBTm0
Oddforge.com has pics of the dark grey
massdrop has black pics
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Thanks for posting pics of the silver version! The pics on oddforge appear to show the dark grey version, but it's pretty hard to make out.
I've already pored over all the pictures on Massdrop, and in this thread... Anyone know other good places I can drool over pictures before I get mine!? :p
anyone interested, this is the silver color:
http://imgur.com/a/yBTm0
Oddforge.com has pics of the dark grey
massdrop has black pics
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Thanks for posting pics of the silver version! The pics on oddforge appear to show the dark grey version, but it's pretty hard to make out.
I've already pored over all the pictures on Massdrop, and in this thread... Anyone know other good places I can drool over pictures before I get mine!? :p
In for 2 kits, so excited about this!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:What are you planning each board to have?
In for 2 kits, so excited about this!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:What are you planning each board to have?
In for 2 kits, so excited about this!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:What are you planning each board to have?
Well, not exactly sure yet what switches, was thinking about doing 55g gateron tactile lubed etc on one. Not sure about the other one yet. No way in hell im using stock switches on these!
Come on, you know some stock Kailh red switches and TaiHao ABS keycaps would really make it shine ;)
Come on, you know some stock Kailh red switches and TaiHao ABS keycaps would really make it shine ;)
De-soldered razer greens maybe? With a side of deformed G20 caps?
In for 2 kits, so excited about this!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
anyone interested, this is the silver color:
http://imgur.com/a/yBTm0
Oddforge.com has pics of the dark grey
massdrop has black pics
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Thanks for posting pics of the silver version! The pics on oddforge appear to show the dark grey version, but it's pretty hard to make out.
I've already pored over all the pictures on Massdrop, and in this thread... Anyone know other good places I can drool over pictures before I get mine!? :p
A few popped up in the Korean Keyboards thread over in GH Media starting around page 155. Note that the colors posted aren't part of the current drop.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.7700
My fav:Show Image(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1581/26026377344_4b47e24843_b.jpg)Show Image(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1508/26632164225_8dda138c35_b.jpg)
In for 2 kits, so excited about this!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
One of those is for me, right? :))
But seriously... holy crap! 2? I can afford one... but I'd have to deal with angry wife with the amount I've spent on keyboard stuff recently. 2 and I'd be sleeping in the doghouse. Literally! :eek:
OK, now you're smarter than me. Have fun with builds and make more money from it :)In for 2 kits, so excited about this!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
One of those is for me, right? :))
But seriously... holy crap! 2? I can afford one... but I'd have to deal with angry wife with the amount I've spent on keyboard stuff recently. 2 and I'd be sleeping in the doghouse. Literally! :eek:
I sold so many nice builds for this. I dont put new money back into the hobby anymore (or at least try not to), I just sell stuff to make new stuff.
It's unfortunate that no Alps plates were included with this buy (or seemingly included with the original Korean GB), but that just means I'll have time to pad up funds for one in the future. :thumb:
It's unfortunate that no Alps plates were included with this buy (or seemingly included with the original Korean GB), but that just means I'll have time to pad up funds for one in the future. :thumb:
Just talked to Zef on email and he says a separate order form will be up soon for ALPS plates. So it should be ok to order away :) can't decide to put SKCM blues, SKCL Browns or SKCM Browns on this yet!
It's unfortunate that no Alps plates were included with this buy (or seemingly included with the original Korean GB), but that just means I'll have time to pad up funds for one in the future. :thumb:
Just talked to Zef on email and he says a separate order form will be up soon for ALPS plates. So it should be ok to order away :) can't decide to put SKCM blues, SKCL Browns or SKCM Browns on this yet!
Oh, hot dog!
It's unfortunate that no Alps plates were included with this buy (or seemingly included with the original Korean GB), but that just means I'll have time to pad up funds for one in the future. :thumb:
Just talked to Zef on email and he says a separate order form will be up soon for ALPS plates. So it should be ok to order away :) can't decide to put SKCM blues, SKCL Browns or SKCM Browns on this yet!
It's unfortunate that no Alps plates were included with this buy (or seemingly included with the original Korean GB), but that just means I'll have time to pad up funds for one in the future. :thumb:
Just talked to Zef on email and he says a separate order form will be up soon for ALPS plates. So it should be ok to order away :) can't decide to put SKCM blues, SKCL Browns or SKCM Browns on this yet!
Oh, did you get that other Tandem board from XMIT or did you find SKCL Browns from another keyboard? :P
It's unfortunate that no Alps plates were included with this buy (or seemingly included with the original Korean GB), but that just means I'll have time to pad up funds for one in the future. :thumb:
Just talked to Zef on email and he says a separate order form will be up soon for ALPS plates. So it should be ok to order away :) can't decide to put SKCM blues, SKCL Browns or SKCM Browns on this yet!
Well that's good to hear, though not so much for my wallet. Damn, not sure if I'll be able to squeeze this one.
Oh, did you get that other Tandem board from XMIT or did you find SKCL Browns from another keyboard? :P
Got them from an ALPS64 board from r/Mk :) any interest in trading for some skcm neon greens?
Got them from an ALPS64 board from r/Mk :) any interest in trading for some skcm neon greens?
Oh, so you were the one who got that one! Yeah, definitely some rare switches that are on par with neon greens in terms of how rare they are, I think. Neons might be a little more rare, but SKCL Browns are unicorns too for sure.
I thankfully have enough for a build I have in mind, haha. I don't think I need any Alps switch trades, sorry. :(
Announcement from oddforge
We tried to make all of you happy.
But time is short.
I got sample PCB of swappable spacebar version yesterday.
If I didn't make mistake. This PCB will included in THIS GB.
And this PCB also support ISO layout.
Wish me luck guys.
Announcement from oddforge
We tried to make all of you happy.
But time is short.
I got sample PCB of swappable spacebar version yesterday.
If I didn't make mistake. This PCB will included in THIS GB.
And this PCB also support ISO layout.
Wish me luck guys.
Announcement from oddforge
We tried to make all of you happy.
But time is short.
I got sample PCB of swappable spacebar version yesterday.
If I didn't make mistake. This PCB will included in THIS GB.
And this PCB also support ISO layout.
Wish me luck guys.
And tje sample on Massdrop is Darkgray
Announcement from oddforge
We tried to make all of you happy.
But time is short.
I got sample PCB of swappable spacebar version yesterday.
If I didn't make mistake. This PCB will included in THIS GB.
And this PCB also support ISO layout.
Wish me luck guys.
O.O
Much love. I'm definitely in then.
OP delivers. Great work Zefer!
Original posterOP delivers. Great work Zefer!
I don't understand what's the meaning of "OP delivers."
Hey I have to learn more, which is great.
OP delivers. Great work Zefer!
I don't understand what's the meaning of "OP delivers."
Hey I have to learn more, which is great.
Will the other colors be available in a future GB?
...That said, I still hope you are offering direct delivery from you to people who are living in at least Asia, and to some extent in Europe. As Massdrop will declare original value of goods when they ship a package, us living in Asia and Europe will get burned by Import Tax.
That's fair. But we will see different colors in future runs, right?Will the other colors be available in a future GB?
Sorry my friend, that limited color options was a promise for 1Round friends and their advantage.
OP delivers. Great work Zefer!
I don't understand what's the meaning of "OP delivers."
Hey I have to learn more, which is great.
"OP (means Original Poster, which is you) delivers" means that you are listening to our request, and makes us happy for that. That said, I still hope you are offering direct delivery from you to people who are living in at least Asia, and to some extent in Europe. As Massdrop will declare original value of goods when they ship a package, us living in Asia and Europe will get burned by Import Tax.
That's fair. But we will see different colors in future runs, right?Will the other colors be available in a future GB?
Sorry my friend, that limited color options was a promise for 1Round friends and their advantage.
Ah I see. Thanks for the information.That's fair. But we will see different colors in future runs, right?Will the other colors be available in a future GB?
Sorry my friend, that limited color options was a promise for 1Round friends and their advantage.
What future runs?
I cannot promise there will be.
This one-time thing almost kill me man.
But yeh... I set it up things already, there might be. I donno.
...That said, I still hope you are offering direct delivery from you to people who are living in at least Asia, and to some extent in Europe. As Massdrop will declare original value of goods when they ship a package, us living in Asia and Europe will get burned by Import Tax.
Lunaris said shipping to China was as only 22 dollars. I don't know how value will be declared but there's some hope.
OP delivers. Great work Zefer!
I don't understand what's the meaning of "OP delivers."
Hey I have to learn more, which is great.
"OP (means Original Poster, which is you) delivers" means that you are listening to our request, and makes us happy for that. That said, I still hope you are offering direct delivery from you to people who are living in at least Asia, and to some extent in Europe. As Massdrop will declare original value of goods when they ship a package, us living in Asia and Europe will get burned by Import Tax.
Thanks!
Shipping and tax import tax actually not that different with direct shipping.
I sent 3 sets to Malaysia before and that was almost 50USD, I have no idea what shipping price do you see but in my opinion, this is quite fair
I see 20.25 USD for shipping to ROK.
And if I ship it directly, there's no way to avoid import tax. I will not offer undervalue at all.
And man... I have to solder all-night ... wish me luck.
I'm worried about import tax too. I'm from Canada, but it still hits like a brick.
I'm worried about import tax too. I'm from Canada, but it still hits like a brick.
this is the only reason i hate massdrop.Isn't that illegal?
they cant lower the price for custom declaration.
in my country i will get about $100 import tax, from $400++ items.
this is the only reason i hate massdrop.Isn't that illegal?
they cant lower the price for custom declaration.
in my country i will get about $100 import tax, from $400++ items.
this is the only reason i hate massdrop.Isn't that illegal?
they cant lower the price for custom declaration.
in my country i will get about $100 import tax, from $400++ items.
That's right. MD has no reason to take the risk for the buyer.this is the only reason i hate massdrop.Isn't that illegal?
they cant lower the price for custom declaration.
in my country i will get about $100 import tax, from $400++ items.
That's what I always thought. Isn't it wrong to put the wrong amount? That puts the fault on the seller.
this is the only reason i hate massdrop.Isn't that illegal?
they cant lower the price for custom declaration.
in my country i will get about $100 import tax, from $400++ items.
It is.
Between individuals it isn't a big deal but for an entity like massdrop it won't slide.
So what about ppl who are in Korea. Can a direct shipping be arranged to bypass the extra shipping/import tax bs?
So what about ppl who are in Korea. Can a direct shipping be arranged to bypass the extra shipping/import tax bs?
This is not official, please keep it in mind.
When production ends, there will be some leftovers like bad-production parts and so on.
I'll sell it after massdrop gb ends(not in a official form), but I cannot tell you what number it would be (quantity nor price either. because I don't know yet.)
If one piece is in a bad-quality, I have to sell almost 12~13 pieces to make it even.
So, to avoid ends up in minus wallet, I have sell leftovers. and That's all.
I want to be fair. I absolutely don't want to make guys in this drop disappointed by doing better, another GB.
That's why I removed green/gold options in this GB to give advantages to 1Round guys.
There will not be another GB outside of Massdrop this time.
And I already said, I don't guarantee another round for VE.A.
Man... International GB is too much for me.
I spent almost 3 months to set this up. Of course, my partner and Massdrop guys helps a lot.
But my stress is all mine. And I bet some of you(who ran GB before) knows GB is not that enjoyable.
There's many sorts of guys in this world (I mean custom keyboard world, geeks)
It's definitely impossible to make everyone happy. (At least for me yes, not possible)
Guys, I have a job and three mouth to feed except mine.
Of course, I have consciousness of being professional in this field, this(custom keyboard) is my side-job too now. I know that really well.
(And that hurts... cause I want to leave as a hobbyist. Some of you might think me as a hypocrite but well, I have no other word to explain my stand clearly.)
Just hoping guys who are in this GB feels happy about it. That's all I want.
Meh........ you know that's not all. (I not gonna lie, haha. plus a little fame and money too, and mostly friends can talk about custom keyboard with.)
Oops, I hope I didn't said too much. :)
Hoping your kindest consideration and supports.
Thanks geeks, you guys rock.
this is the only reason i hate massdrop.Isn't that illegal?
they cant lower the price for custom declaration.
in my country i will get about $100 import tax, from $400++ items.
That's what I always thought. Isn't it wrong to put the wrong amount? That puts the fault on the seller.
So what about ppl who are in Korea. Can a direct shipping be arranged to bypass the extra shipping/import tax bs?
This is not official, please keep it in mind.
When production ends, there will be some leftovers like bad-production parts and so on.
I'll sell it after massdrop gb ends(not in a official form), but I cannot tell you what number it would be (quantity nor price either. because I don't know yet.)
If one piece is in a bad-quality, I have to sell almost 12~13 pieces to make it even.
So, to avoid ends up in minus wallet, I have sell leftovers. and That's all.
I want to be fair. I absolutely don't want to make guys in this drop disappointed by doing better, another GB.
That's why I removed green/gold options in this GB to give advantages to 1Round guys.
There will not be another GB outside of Massdrop this time.
And I already said, I don't guarantee another round for VE.A.
Man... International GB is too much for me.
I spent almost 3 months to set this up. Of course, my partner and Massdrop guys helps a lot.
But my stress is all mine. And I bet some of you(who ran GB before) knows GB is not that enjoyable.
There's many sorts of guys in this world (I mean custom keyboard world, geeks)
It's definitely impossible to make everyone happy. (At least for me yes, not possible)
Guys, I have a job and three mouth to feed except mine.
Of course, I have consciousness of being professional in this field, this(custom keyboard) is my side-job too now. I know that really well.
(And that hurts... cause I want to leave as a hobbyist. Some of you might think me as a hypocrite but well, I have no other word to explain my stand clearly.)
Just hoping guys who are in this GB feels happy about it. That's all I want.
Meh........ you know that's not all. (I not gonna lie, haha. plus a little fame and money too, and mostly friends can talk about custom keyboard with.)
Oops, I hope I didn't said too much. :)
Hoping your kindest consideration and supports.
Thanks geeks, you guys rock.
So what about ppl who are in Korea. Can a direct shipping be arranged to bypass the extra shipping/import tax bs?
This is not official, please keep it in mind.
When production ends, there will be some leftovers like bad-production parts and so on.
I'll sell it after massdrop gb ends(not in a official form), but I cannot tell you what number it would be (quantity nor price either. because I don't know yet.)
If one piece is in a bad-quality, I have to sell almost 12~13 pieces to make it even.
So, to avoid ends up in minus wallet, I have sell leftovers. and That's all.
I want to be fair. I absolutely don't want to make guys in this drop disappointed by doing better, another GB.
That's why I removed green/gold options in this GB to give advantages to 1Round guys.
There will not be another GB outside of Massdrop this time.
And I already said, I don't guarantee another round for VE.A.
Man... International GB is too much for me.
I spent almost 3 months to set this up. Of course, my partner and Massdrop guys helps a lot.
But my stress is all mine. And I bet some of you(who ran GB before) knows GB is not that enjoyable.
There's many sorts of guys in this world (I mean custom keyboard world, geeks)
It's definitely impossible to make everyone happy. (At least for me yes, not possible)
Guys, I have a job and three mouth to feed except mine.
Of course, I have consciousness of being professional in this field, this(custom keyboard) is my side-job too now. I know that really well.
(And that hurts... cause I want to leave as a hobbyist. Some of you might think me as a hypocrite but well, I have no other word to explain my stand clearly.)
Just hoping guys who are in this GB feels happy about it. That's all I want.
Meh........ you know that's not all. (I not gonna lie, haha. plus a little fame and money too, and mostly friends can talk about custom keyboard with.)
Oops, I hope I didn't said too much. :)
Hoping your kindest consideration and supports.
Thanks geeks, you guys rock.
Announcement from oddforge
We tried to make all of you happy.
But time is short.
I got sample PCB of swappable spacebar version yesterday.
If I didn't make mistake. This PCB will included in THIS GB.
And this PCB also support ISO layout.
Wish me luck guys.
And tje sample on Massdrop is Darkgray
Announcement from oddforge
We tried to make all of you happy.
But time is short.
I got sample PCB of swappable spacebar version yesterday.
If I didn't make mistake. This PCB will included in THIS GB.
And this PCB also support ISO layout.
Wish me luck guys.
And tje sample on Massdrop is DarkgrayShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/GfWJXUh.gif)
This is amazing.
Hello zefyr,
I see that the pcb has Alps mount holes, will you be able to release Alps plate design if I want to get it cut independently?
If the pics on massdrop are dark grey. Are there any pics of the black?
Black looks sexy!
Black looks sexy!
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How sturdy is the locking mechanism for the board? I'm (perhaps for no reason) afraid that the locking mechanism for the board will degrade over time, unlike the UHKB which seems to have much more utilitarian (and likely more effective, since they're not bound by aesthetic) locking mechanisms.
I'm still on the fence about going through with this group buy, but I must admit it's a beautiful design.
Black looks sexy!
Yes it is.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vQGAYh9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4kLWqKo.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jACxqhe.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7yfKaCc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fJW5QUd.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YHKMA5m.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/peXGrGq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JVB63ru.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9PVGCLA.jpg)
How sturdy is the locking mechanism for the board? I'm (perhaps for no reason) afraid that the locking mechanism for the board will degrade over time, unlike the UHKB which seems to have much more utilitarian (and likely more effective, since they're not bound by aesthetic) locking mechanisms.
I'm still on the fence about going through with this group buy, but I must admit it's a beautiful design.
Black looks sexy!
Yes it is.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vQGAYh9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4kLWqKo.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jACxqhe.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7yfKaCc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fJW5QUd.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YHKMA5m.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/peXGrGq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JVB63ru.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9PVGCLA.jpg)
Black looks sexy!
Yes it is.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vQGAYh9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4kLWqKo.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jACxqhe.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7yfKaCc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fJW5QUd.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YHKMA5m.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/peXGrGq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JVB63ru.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9PVGCLA.jpg)
Wonder how would the lighting looks with Zealios. The switches have clear housing, which will have tons of RGB bleeding. Might have to consider going back to cherry... D: or just regular Gaterons.
Sold a bunch of stuff today to be able to participate in the drop....aaaaaand Paypal froze the funds for 21 days because it's "inconsistent with my account activity"...time to go back to the drawing board to figure out how I'm going to be able to pay for the board.
PCB comes presoldered correct? We only have to solder on the swtiches?
Wonder how would the lighting looks with Zealios. The switches have clear housing, which will have tons of RGB bleeding. Might have to consider going back to cherry... D: or just regular Gaterons.
Sold a bunch of stuff today to be able to participate in the drop....aaaaaand Paypal froze the funds for 21 days because it's "inconsistent with my account activity"...time to go back to the drawing board to figure out how I'm going to be able to pay for the board.
that is dumb. Really hate that about paypal. Holding funds is stupid just makes them more money
Sold a bunch of stuff today to be able to participate in the drop....aaaaaand Paypal froze the funds for 21 days because it's "inconsistent with my account activity"...time to go back to the drawing board to figure out how I'm going to be able to pay for the board.
that is dumb. Really hate that about paypal. Holding funds is stupid just makes them more money
Man, I was right, this is THE reason why I went for Massdrop.
If pp holds my funds, that make me to explain many words, including that "I'm no scammer. Please believe me."
Sold a bunch of stuff today to be able to participate in the drop....aaaaaand Paypal froze the funds for 21 days because it's "inconsistent with my account activity"...time to go back to the drawing board to figure out how I'm going to be able to pay for the board.That's the point that I'd realize that fate didn't want me to have it. You can't fight fate - but kudos to you for trying
Wonder how would the lighting looks with Zealios. The switches have clear housing, which will have tons of RGB bleeding. Might have to consider going back to cherry... D: or just regular Gaterons.
This is built with gaterons, check it out.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3633551
Sold a bunch of stuff today to be able to participate in the drop....aaaaaand Paypal froze the funds for 21 days because it's "inconsistent with my account activity"...time to go back to the drawing board to figure out how I'm going to be able to pay for the board.
bump,
Added BootmapperClient Mac/Windows support feature.
any way to get an option for an aluminium plate? :confused: Or is that something that wouldn't be possible at this point :thumb:
any way to get an option for an aluminium plate? :confused: Or is that something that wouldn't be possible at this point :thumb:
Stuff like this infuriates me. The GB is already up man, may people have ordered. Asking this is dumb.
Oh yea do you think you could also change every single detail about the kit for me, please? Like can we have rainbow anodization too? How about Topre support?
:rolleyes:
So roll back your neck beard and find something else to burst a nerve on. :thumb:
So roll back your neck beard and find something else to burst a nerve on. :thumb:
any way to get an option for an aluminium plate? :confused: Or is that something that wouldn't be possible at this point :thumb:Hmm somehow I didn't notice the plate material. I didn't like tactile switches as much on my previous steel plate board but I might give it another try. Sucks a little bit that the plate doesn't allow switch top removal.
bump,
Added BootmapperClient Mac/Windows support feature.
Thanks Zefyr. This is unbelievable. One of the most responsive GB's for sure.
Added left hand space support AND Bootmapperclient support to address some community feedback within days. No way I'm missing VE.A.
The old PCB only had the space on the right hand. On the left hand, there was 2 keys.If there is no problem with it it will be included. No guarantee yet.
However, to support some of us left-hand spacebar users, zefyr's team modified the PCB to allow for left hand space as well.
AFAIK, Zefyr has stated that this updated PCB will be included in the current Drop.
The old PCB only had the space on the right hand. On the left hand, there was 2 keys.
However, to support some of us left-hand spacebar users, zefyr's team modified the PCB to allow for left hand space as well.
AFAIK, Zefyr has stated that this updated PCB will be included in the current Drop.
The old PCB only had the space on the right hand. On the left hand, there was 2 keys.
However, to support some of us left-hand spacebar users, zefyr's team modified the PCB to allow for left hand space as well.
AFAIK, Zefyr has stated that this updated PCB will be included in the current Drop.
You got that wrong.
VE.A is programmable, use can remap any key to space.
The issue was positionof left space key. Those who types space with left thumb, position of left space and fn key is messed up a little. So I decided to make it swappable.
Current version suooprts only Space-Fn layout. I'll make it swappable to Fn-Space order.
And I am testing it. No guarantee of including it in this GB. Test takes time.
The old PCB only had the space on the right hand. On the left hand, there was 2 keys.
However, to support some of us left-hand spacebar users, zefyr's team modified the PCB to allow for left hand space as well.
AFAIK, Zefyr has stated that this updated PCB will be included in the current Drop.
You got that wrong.
VE.A is programmable, use can remap any key to space. (by default, there's space in left and right, there's two of them)
The issue was position of left space key. Those who types space with left thumb, position of left space and fn key is messed up a little. So I decided to make it swappable.
Current version supports only Space-Fn layout. I'll make it swappable to Fn-Space order.
And I am testing it. No guarantee of including it in this GB. Test takes time.
PCB comes presoldered correct? We only have to solder on the swtiches?
Yes, plus in-switch LEDs if you want.
So roll back your neck beard and find something else to burst a nerve on. :thumb:
Worst comeback ever.
Ill stop now, I promise.
So roll back your neck beard and find something else to burst a nerve on. :thumb:
Worst comeback ever.
Ill stop now, I promise.
And needless. To resort to such is pretty bad.
So roll back your neck beard and find something else to burst a nerve on. :thumb:
Wut.
So roll back your neck beard and find something else to burst a nerve on. :thumb:
Worst comeback ever.
Ill stop now, I promise.
any way to get an option for an aluminium plate? :confused: Or is that something that wouldn't be possible at this point :thumb:Hmm somehow I didn't notice the plate material. I didn't like tactile switches as much on my previous steel plate board but I might give it another try. Sucks a little bit that the plate doesn't allow switch top removal.
The old PCB only had the space on the right hand. On the left hand, there was 2 keys.
However, to support some of us left-hand spacebar users, zefyr's team modified the PCB to allow for left hand space as well.
AFAIK, Zefyr has stated that this updated PCB will be included in the current Drop.
You got that wrong.
VE.A is programmable, use can remap any key to space. (by default, there's space in left and right, there's two of them)
The issue was position of left space key. Those who types space with left thumb, position of left space and fn key is messed up a little. So I decided to make it swappable.
Current version supports only Space-Fn layout. I'll make it swappable to Fn-Space order.
And I am testing it. No guarantee of including it in this GB. Test takes time.
Whatever happens, thanks for trying it. But please let us know if you're able to get it working. I will commit to buy as soon as you give us the green light.
Assuming the PCB works 100%, what do you have in mind for plates? Have we gotten that far yet?
I also made universal plate for it already. The key layout already checked, it's fine all fit.
Testing is what remains, but... I don't think I have enough time... Man I'm soldering my ass off haha.
there's so many options and I cannot test all options. I only can emulate with tweezers, but that's not 100% testing.
I use to test at least 1 week for sure. but as you see, I don't have enough time to do that.
Just... I'll try. and let you all know it's done before Drop ends.
The old PCB only had the space on the right hand. On the left hand, there was 2 keys.
However, to support some of us left-hand spacebar users, zefyr's team modified the PCB to allow for left hand space as well.
AFAIK, Zefyr has stated that this updated PCB will be included in the current Drop.
You got that wrong.
VE.A is programmable, use can remap any key to space. (by default, there's space in left and right, there's two of them)
The issue was position of left space key. Those who types space with left thumb, position of left space and fn key is messed up a little. So I decided to make it swappable.
Current version supports only Space-Fn layout. I'll make it swappable to Fn-Space order.
And I am testing it. No guarantee of including it in this GB. Test takes time.
Whatever happens, thanks for trying it. But please let us know if you're able to get it working. I will commit to buy as soon as you give us the green light.
Assuming the PCB works 100%, what do you have in mind for plates? Have we gotten that far yet?
I also made universal plate for it already. The key layout already checked, it's fine all fit.
Testing is what remains, but... I don't think I have enough time... Man I'm soldering my ass off haha.
there's so many options and I cannot test all options. I only can emulate with tweezers, but that's not 100% testing.
I use to test at least 1 week for sure. but as you see, I don't have enough time to do that.
Just... I'll try. and let you all know it's done before Drop ends.
any way to get an option for an aluminium plate? :confused: Or is that something that wouldn't be possible at this point :thumb:
any way to get an option for an aluminium plate? :confused: Or is that something that wouldn't be possible at this point :thumb:
Negative :)
That could makes many people so confused who already in.
Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Awesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Awesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Awesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
Awesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
Awesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
Plate material is an area of consideration which, for many, is also dependent on the switch type as different materials change the feel and acoustics.
Stainless steel, for some, is entirely unusable for tactile switches.
Though I have to wonder if Zefyr is willing to offer the plate files as he will with the Alps plate and the first Vergo design.
Just for clarification, I'm well aware of the differences with linear and steel vs alu and tactile. I just find it silly to not just use what you like when there is not much of a quantifiable difference.I think its the fact that its a 400 dollar keyboard, so people really want to get it perfect. That small difference is still a difference from their ideal keyboard.
While that's true you'll never have your ideal board unless you make it from scratch.Just for clarification, I'm well aware of the differences with linear and steel vs alu and tactile. I just find it silly to not just use what you like when there is not much of a quantifiable difference.I think its the fact that its a 400 dollar keyboard, so people really want to get it perfect. That small difference is still a difference from their ideal keyboard.
Yeah, that's true. I don't have the skill or patience for that though haha.I think its the fact that its a 400 dollar keyboard, so people really want to get it perfect. That small difference is still a difference from their ideal keyboard.While that's true you'll never have your ideal board unless you make it from scratch.
Awesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
Plate material is an area of consideration which, for many, is also dependent on the switch type as different materials change the feel and acoustics.
Stainless steel, for some, is entirely unusable for tactile switches.
Though I have to wonder if Zefyr is willing to offer the plate files as he will with the Alps plate and the first Vergo design.
Just for clarification, I'm well aware of the differences with linear and steel vs alu and tactile. I just find it silly to not just use what you like when there is not much of a quantifiable difference.
This sounds like it belongs on r/IamverysmartMoreAwesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
Plate material is an area of consideration which, for many, is also dependent on the switch type as different materials change the feel and acoustics.
Stainless steel, for some, is entirely unusable for tactile switches.
Though I have to wonder if Zefyr is willing to offer the plate files as he will with the Alps plate and the first Vergo design.
Just for clarification, I'm well aware of the differences with linear and steel vs alu and tactile. I just find it silly to not just use what you like when there is not much of a quantifiable difference.
Perhaps you aren't as sensitive to such factors which is why you find them trivial.
However, I find that I'm more attentive to such things so from personal experience I can sympathize with such a notion that one would refrain entirely from certain pairings of switches and materials.
This sounds like it belongs on r/IamverysmartMoreAwesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
Plate material is an area of consideration which, for many, is also dependent on the switch type as different materials change the feel and acoustics.
Stainless steel, for some, is entirely unusable for tactile switches.
Though I have to wonder if Zefyr is willing to offer the plate files as he will with the Alps plate and the first Vergo design.
Just for clarification, I'm well aware of the differences with linear and steel vs alu and tactile. I just find it silly to not just use what you like when there is not much of a quantifiable difference.
Perhaps you aren't as sensitive to such factors which is why you find them trivial.
However, I find that I'm more attentive to such things so from personal experience I can sympathize with such a notion that one would refrain entirely from certain pairings of switches and materials.
Why would you buy something if you know you're not gonna be satisfied?This sounds like it belongs on r/IamverysmartMoreAwesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
Plate material is an area of consideration which, for many, is also dependent on the switch type as different materials change the feel and acoustics.
Stainless steel, for some, is entirely unusable for tactile switches.
Though I have to wonder if Zefyr is willing to offer the plate files as he will with the Alps plate and the first Vergo design.
Just for clarification, I'm well aware of the differences with linear and steel vs alu and tactile. I just find it silly to not just use what you like when there is not much of a quantifiable difference.
Perhaps you aren't as sensitive to such factors which is why you find them trivial.
However, I find that I'm more attentive to such things so from personal experience I can sympathize with such a notion that one would refrain entirely from certain pairings of switches and materials.
If that's what being smart means then I would very much like to be dumb.
Being sensitive to this **** means I have to waste my money on expensive keyboards and still not be satisfied with the end result.
I envy those who don't care for the construction of their boards.
Why would you buy something if you know you're not gonna be satisfied?This sounds like it belongs on r/IamverysmartMoreAwesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
Plate material is an area of consideration which, for many, is also dependent on the switch type as different materials change the feel and acoustics.
Stainless steel, for some, is entirely unusable for tactile switches.
Though I have to wonder if Zefyr is willing to offer the plate files as he will with the Alps plate and the first Vergo design.
Just for clarification, I'm well aware of the differences with linear and steel vs alu and tactile. I just find it silly to not just use what you like when there is not much of a quantifiable difference.
Perhaps you aren't as sensitive to such factors which is why you find them trivial.
However, I find that I'm more attentive to such things so from personal experience I can sympathize with such a notion that one would refrain entirely from certain pairings of switches and materials.
If that's what being smart means then I would very much like to be dumb.
Being sensitive to this **** means I have to waste my money on expensive keyboards and still not be satisfied with the end result.
I envy those who don't care for the construction of their boards.
I don't know if the two things are comparable. You can acquire the means to make your own board. Might have some trouble setting up your own government.You say the two are incomparable but first of all, it's an analogy which is not always a perfect comparison.
There's more of a ping to the switches on STS plates than aluminum I find, which feels different than aluminum. True it doesn't mean I can't use zealios on the ve.a, but it's not my preferenceAwesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
I have found that lubing the ends of springs removed pinging sounds for me.There's more of a ping to the switches on STS plates than aluminum I find, which feels different than aluminum. True it doesn't mean I can't use zealios on the ve.a, but it's not my preferenceAwesome thanks. Wasn't sure either ..Just to be clear, the plate is steel in this group buy correct?
Yeah. "STS" = "stainless steel."
Took me an hour or so before I realized what "STS" stood for...
Sucks that I won't be able to use zealios on this :(
Since when does a stainless steel plate mean you can't use zealios?
For the in switch LEDs can we use RGB or just single color LEDs?
Is it possible for anyone to purchase an extra PCB and possibly the tenting kit for me? The person I agreed to buy the PCB and tenting kit from on Reddit is backing out. I am new on GH, but I have some rep on /r/HardwareSwap and /r/MechMarket under the same username. I really don't want to miss out on this. I have no problem paying PP fees and trying to make it worth your while.He did say he may have some extras at the end so if you don't find anyone you can try that.
Is it possible for anyone to purchase an extra PCB and possibly the tenting kit for me? The person I agreed to buy the PCB and tenting kit from on Reddit is backing out. I am new on GH, but I have some rep on /r/HardwareSwap and /r/MechMarket under the same username. I really don't want to miss out on this. I have no problem paying PP fees and trying to make it worth your while.
Are there any updates on left hand space support already?
Sorry for bothering you zefyr, but it's the one thing that would really make this board perfect to me.
I really want an VE.A and the left space layout is my only concern.
Fingers crossed and praying testing works out fine.
Is there anything I should be aware of for the titanium coating? Is it easy to scratch at all?
Are there any updates on left hand space support already?
Sorry for bothering you zefyr, but it's the one thing that would really make this board perfect to me.
I really want an VE.A and the left space layout is my only concern.
Fingers crossed and praying testing works out fine.
I usually run test for 2 weeks, for sure.
I'm thinking several things, I'll update status in couple of days.
anyone here located in US can help me to purchase the Tenting stand?
Massdrop doesn't let me buy the stand without the VE.A. :(
I did, but the nearest acrylic shop is 30 mins drive away from my place, and I'm kinda lazy.
I just ordered the second VE.A with the stand anyway. :p
Thanks zefyr!
I keep having to stop myself from hitting that "purchase" button... every day... :'(
Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock
I am really tempted to get two as well, but I am trying to save space :(
Zefyr, will these LED lights be compatible with your PCB?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999088871?
Description:
Size (mm) : 2 x 3 x 4 mm ( Rectangle )
Lens Colour : White
Peak Wave Length (nm) : 605 ~ 610
Forward Voltage (V) : 1.8 ~ 2.2
Forward Current : 20mA
Reverse Current (uA) : <=30
Absolute Maximum Ratings (Ta=25°C)
Max Power Dissipation : 80mw Max Continuous
Max Peak Forward Current : 75mA
Reverse Voltage : 5~6V
Lead Soldering Temperature : 240°C (<5Sec)
Operating Temperature Range : -25°C ~ +85°C
Preservative Temperature Range : -30°C ~ +100°C
Pin Length: 28.5mm and 26.5m
Would I need to solder on resistors to support LEDs?
Announcement from Oddforge
Hi guys, I got a news for GB.
As you know, I was trying to upgrade PCB for ISO layouts and Swappable space/fn options.
Test fails. There's another 200 bucks I'll never see again.
Now, time is absolute not enough to make it in this GB.
This might looks like a kind of lame execuse but, I'm gonna spit it out.
Me and my partner has all exhausted out.
Somebody might think this is not that kind of hard work but...
We(oddforge members) both have a regular day job, and in Korea, we work very hard (I mean... looooooooooong, like 12 hours a day)
We have to work at midnight and "precious weekend" for this GB.
We did, we did tried over three months by now.
Clock is ticking (man it's faster than we thought, really), we all are stressed out.
BAM!, hospital, both of us.
So, here's the deal about it.
For now, there's no way I can make it before Massdrop application period ends. (in a week from now)
We will keep trying anyway. but "NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS(UPGRADED PCB) WILL BE INCLUDED IN MASSDROP GB"
I got three weeks to solve and test. If I got managed to solve things, it will be included. but chance is very slim as you see.
Sorry guys, I didn't make it in time.
If(---IF---) PCB is done after time limit. We will offer you a deal for it.
(NO PRICE EST, NOR SCHEDULE EST, NOR GUARANTEE)
Please, do not think this as a money making tactics.
Thanks for your interest and considerate understanding in advance.
Announcement from Oddforge
Hi guys, I got a news for GB.
As you know, I was trying to upgrade PCB for ISO layouts and Swappable space/fn options.
Test fails. There's another 200 bucks I'll never see again.
Now, time is absolute not enough to make it in this GB.
This might looks like a kind of lame execuse but, I'm gonna spit it out.
Me and my partner has all exhausted out.
Somebody might think this is not that kind of hard work but...
We(oddforge members) both have a regular day job, and in Korea, we work very hard (I mean... looooooooooong, like 12 hours a day)
We have to work at midnight and "precious weekend" for this GB.
We did, we did tried over three months by now.
Clock is ticking (man it's faster than we thought, really), we all are stressed out.
BAM!, hospital, both of us.
So, here's the deal about it.
For now, there's no way I can make it before Massdrop application period ends. (in a week from now)
We will keep trying anyway. but "NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS(UPGRADED PCB) WILL BE INCLUDED IN MASSDROP GB"
I got three weeks to solve and test. If I got managed to solve things, it will be included. but chance is very slim as you see.
Sorry guys, I didn't make it in time.
If(---IF---) PCB is done after time limit. We will offer you a deal for it.
(NO PRICE EST, NOR SCHEDULE EST, NOR GUARANTEE)
Please, do not think this as a money making tactics.
Thanks for your interest and considerate understanding in advance.
Well, I guess this means I'm out. I can't put $400 on a "maybe". But I do appreciate you trying to make it work. The group buy is already a success and there's nearly a week left. You should be proud. Thanks for being up-front about this change/update. I will watch closely to see what Oddforge has in store for the future. ;)
so... R2 confirmed?
What's all this about a left spacebar? Can't you just take a 4u and put it over the 3u + fn key, and then unmap the fn?
Left side is 2u space + 1u Fn. But where are you going to get a 3u cap with the right stem placement? Don't forget there are stabilizers under there. It's not nearly as simple as you implied.
Left side is 2u space + 1u Fn. But where are you going to get a 3u cap with the right stem placement? Don't forget there are stabilizers under there. It's not nearly as simple as you implied.
I think you could forgo the stab if you were to do this, as mounting it on two switches would be stable enough, but you're right about the stem placement - not sure if that would work.
Left thumb FN position was a controversial topic in first round at Korea.
The thing is, I find left FN is more useful than left spacebar in that position that time.
But after VE.A released, winkeyless firmware has new function "Dual Action remap"
So, Space bar can be used as "FN" in the same time. which is a near perfect feature for me.
I was working on swappable position for a while. This is my first trial and it just failed.
I'll make it work. But it's just "no guarantee for this GB" thing. cause I don't have enough time.
I have to make another case with this PCB, so large amount of leftover PCB will become huge pain in my sexy ass.
I cannot let that happens. I have almost three weeks to make this right.
But announcement cannot be done by than right?
So I announced early :)
Thanks for your support, guys.
Left thumb FN position was a controversial topic in first round at Korea.
The thing is, I find left FN is more useful than left spacebar in that position that time.
But after VE.A released, winkeyless firmware has new function "Dual Action remap"
So, Space bar can be used as "FN" in the same time. which is a near perfect feature for me.
I was working on swappable position for a while. This is my first trial and it just failed.
I'll make it work. But it's just "no guarantee for this GB" thing. cause I don't have enough time.
I have to make another case with this PCB, so large amount of leftover PCB will become huge pain in my sexy ass.
I cannot let that happens. I have almost three weeks to make this right.
But announcement cannot be done by than right?
So I announced early :)
Thanks for your support, guys.
Left thumb FN position was a controversial topic in first round at Korea.
The thing is, I find left FN is more useful than left spacebar in that position that time.
But after VE.A released, winkeyless firmware has new function "Dual Action remap"
So, Space bar can be used as "FN" in the same time. which is a near perfect feature for me.
I was working on swappable position for a while. This is my first trial and it just failed.
I'll make it work. But it's just "no guarantee for this GB" thing. cause I don't have enough time.
I have to make another case with this PCB, so large amount of leftover PCB will become huge pain in my sexy ass.
I cannot let that happens. I have almost three weeks to make this right.
But announcement cannot be done by than right?
So I announced early :)
Thanks for your support, guys.
Thanks for beeing upfront and keeping us informed zefyr!
So, does it mean you'll definitely make it work, but just not in time for the gb?
Also you said you will have to make another case with this pcb?
It would probably be important to know what is going to happen for people who are requesting space fn swap support.
Should we get a board now, and will definitely be able to purchase and updated PCB afterwards at some point in time?
Will updated PCBs not fit in the current case, which would mean we shouldnt buy a board now in hopes of using an updated PCB in it?
Left thumb FN position was a controversial topic in first round at Korea.
The thing is, I find left FN is more useful than left spacebar in that position that time.
But after VE.A released, winkeyless firmware has new function "Dual Action remap"
So, Space bar can be used as "FN" in the same time. which is a near perfect feature for me.
I was working on swappable position for a while. This is my first trial and it just failed.
I'll make it work. But it's just "no guarantee for this GB" thing. cause I don't have enough time.
I have to make another case with this PCB, so large amount of leftover PCB will become huge pain in my sexy ass.
I cannot let that happens. I have almost three weeks to make this right.
But announcement cannot be done by than right?
So I announced early :)
Thanks for your support, guys.
Thanks for beeing upfront and keeping us informed zefyr!
So, does it mean you'll definitely make it work, but just not in time for the gb?
Also you said you will have to make another case with this pcb?
It would probably be important to know what is going to happen for people who are requesting space fn swap support.
Should we get a board now, and will definitely be able to purchase and updated PCB afterwards at some point in time?
Will updated PCBs not fit in the current case, which would mean we shouldnt buy a board now in hopes of using an updated PCB in it?
I'm back and forth for this topic.
All of these in your question. Like swappable PCB, new Case and so on.
I want to make new Case for this PCB, and also, I want to improve this PCB.
(Focus on the word "I want". that is not "I have to", please.)
For swappable Space/FN.
I already put some budget in that I just want to make it even. and that would be another 30~35 PCBs to sell.
But it's just "what I want to do.", not "what I should to do." for now.
That's why I announced it earlier, before Massdrop GB ends.
Running GB takes a lot of commitments.
I'm afraid of commitments for improved PCB, I already made "stable" version of PCB and put that on GB.
What I really worried of is... "Stability issue after GB ends."
I tested this(Massdrop GB) version of PCB over a month before first GB on kbdlab.
That's my standard for "Stable PCB".
Here's deal.
I'll try to make improved PCB. But no guarantee for that.
I cannot promise anything.
So, if you need swapable version of this PCB. Risk is all yours.
What I can say is "I'll try."
And new case,
It's also a "I want to" thing.
Hey, it's my hobby :) please do not forget that.
Some guys already talks about another round.
That is "A LOT OF PRESSURE" on me.
I absolutely have NO plan for another round.
I have NO plan to sell VE.A on my website, yet.
Well, I got nothing left :) what a dumb.
I really want make more geeks happy.
But I can't. That's what I learned.
So, I decided to go in "safe" way.
For this GB, time limit is over for further challenge.
Thank you for your understanding in advance.
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/io4Ktyy.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fjoujFv.jpg)
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/io4Ktyy.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fjoujFv.jpg)
Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/io4Ktyy.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fjoujFv.jpg)
Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?
Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/io4Ktyy.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fjoujFv.jpg)
Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?
Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now
Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/io4Ktyy.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fjoujFv.jpg)
Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/io4Ktyy.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fjoujFv.jpg)
Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?
Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now
Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?
Link to? Zeal replied on MD about his up coming clear cherry stabilizer with gold plated stabs, thread on GH is here. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78155.0
Taobao link is https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/io4Ktyy.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fjoujFv.jpg)
Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?
Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now
Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?
Link to? Zeal replied on MD about his up coming clear cherry stabilizer with gold plated stabs, thread on GH is here. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78155.0
Taobao link is https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm
Thanks for the link. Gonna try to order some.
Announcement from oddforge
Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.
Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.
Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.
I don't recall seeing any mention of the type of resistor to use if in-key leds were to be used. Are they through-hole or surface mount? I'm guessing the latter.
Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.
Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.
Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.
Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.
Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.
Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.
Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.
You definitely could, laser cutting shouldn't be too expensive.
Some people have already announced interest in aluminum plates, so maybe we could arrange to have some plates made together.
I don't mind the stainless tbh, but I might be in for an aluminum plate set aswell.
Maybe zefyr would even supply the files if we ask kindly. =D
Announcement from oddforge
Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.
Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.
Awesome! Thanks!
I will.
Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.
Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.
You definitely could, laser cutting shouldn't be too expensive.
Some people have already announced interest in aluminum plates, so maybe we could arrange to have some plates made together.
I don't mind the stainless tbh, but I might be in for an aluminum plate set aswell.
Maybe zefyr would even supply the files if we ask kindly. =D
I will.
Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.
Alps need a plate. Cherry it's optional for switch, but this board probably needs the plate to work
Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.
Alps need a plate. Cherry it's optional for switch, but this board probably needs the plate to work
VE.A needs plate. it's by design.
Announcement from oddforge
Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.
Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.
Awesome zefyr!
Thx Soo much for all the effort you put in to this!
So chances are we might be able to get the update pcb after the gb?
It would make the decision that much easy for me tbh. =)
Announcement from oddforge
Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.
Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.
Awesome zefyr!
Thx Soo much for all the effort you put in to this!
So chances are we might be able to get the update pcb after the gb?
It would make the decision that much easy for me tbh. =)
I don't want to put words into Zefyr's mouth, but it read to me like he's still trying to get it done in time for the Massdrop.
is there a picture anywhere of a dark grey case with a bare steel plate? i think all the ones on massdrop have black plates
is there a picture anywhere of a dark grey case with a bare steel plate? i think all the ones on massdrop have black plates
Darkgray is on Massdrop description.
Bare steel plate is pretty general, it's glare, silver, steel plate :)
You can see difference on oddforge website
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly
Photo on assembly guide is Darkgray.
Thanks.
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...
"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half." :))
Guess thats youtube for ya ~
Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...
"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half." :))
Guess thats youtube for ya ~
Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!
Yeh... I saw that too. Probably he is not familiar with custom keyboard kit :)
And producing cost of CNC (especially it's made in Korea)
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...
"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half." :))
Guess thats youtube for ya ~
Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!
Yeh... I saw that too. Probably he is not familiar with custom keyboard kit :)
And producing cost of CNC (especially it's made in Korea)
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...
"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half." :))
Guess thats youtube for ya ~
Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...
"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half." :))
Guess thats youtube for ya ~
Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!
Call me single-minded, but my only concern was if he got to keep it for free. And by free, I mean just from doing a review on it.
Say it isn't so. :P
I'm just throwing this out there in case anyone else is interested in putting one of the more recent popular cap sets on this once it arrives.
The left space key is 2u, the right space key is 2.75u according to the key layout posted by MassDrop. PMK has 2u and 2.75u blanks in stock.
GKK is the light color grey that matches the alphas on Granite and Quartz. GEC is the dark colored grey that matches the space bar of Quartz. Both are currently in stock in the needed sizes. GDE is the dark color on Granite, but it's only in stock on one of the two blanks (Don't recall which).
I really wanted the blue from Quartz (BFV) but the didn't have it in stock. Sad face.
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö
Yes it is.
Announcement from oddforge(http://i.imgur.com/YbcwJMl.gif)
Stability test was successful for two days.
(I'm writing this with ISO + Space/FN Swapped version of VE.A)
Still there is some chance for failure cause short test period.
And you probably knows already.
If you use VE.A with full LED on, plugged non-powered USB hub can cause malfunction.
LED's Power consumption is very high.
OK, I think this is the time for your final decision.
I'm 99% sure this PCB is stable. Even if this fails, I think I can fix it.
So, improved PCB will be included in Massdrop GB (99% sure)
Thank you for waiting. It was a long journey :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4LWWgUF.jpg)
Announcement from oddforge
Stability test was successful for two days.
(I'm writing this with ISO + Space/FN Swapped version of VE.A)
Still there is some chance for failure cause short test period.
And you probably knows already.
If you use VE.A with full LED on, plugged non-powered USB hub can cause malfunction.
LED's Power consumption is very high.
OK, I think this is the time for your final decision.
I'm 99% sure this PCB is stable. Even if this fails, I think I can fix it.
So, improved PCB will be included in Massdrop GB (99% sure)
Thank you for waiting. It was a long journey :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4LWWgUF.jpg)
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö
Yes it is.
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö
Yes it is.
But I guess plate is still ANSI only, or universal?
Since the MD groupbuy is ending soon. Would like to understand a few more things.
The SMD rgb led comes with the board. No sure if numlock, scroll lock and capslock LEDs and resistors comes with the drop too.
I would also like to know if we will need to get additional resistors for in-switch LEDs. If so, what type and resistance to get for white 1.8mm 3v LEDs.
Thanks!
Since the MD groupbuy is ending soon. Would like to understand a few more things.
The SMD rgb led comes with the board. No sure if numlock, scroll lock and capslock LEDs and resistors comes with the drop too.
I would also like to know if we will need to get additional resistors for in-switch LEDs. If so, what type and resistance to get for white 1.8mm 3v LEDs.
Thanks!
3-Locks LED resistors will be pre-soldered. but LED itself will no be included.
18 RGB LEDs will be pre-soldered. you don't have to do anything for RGB LEDs it's all-set.
And for in-switch resistors.
Our plan was no-resistors for in-switch LEDs.
It's because somebody might want to customize several sorts of LEDs and resistors.
Then we checked about it with some friends and find out almost everyone prefer pre-soldered resistors than customizing.
So, we already checking stability for that.
Now, our testing sample uses 910 ohm resistors for every LEDs, with red LED(which consume high power).
If this is stable enough, we will check cost for in-switch LED pre-soldering. If cost matches our price goal resistors will be pre-soldered also.
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö
Yes it is.
But I guess plate is still ANSI only, or universal?
Of course, UNIVERSAL for EVERY supported layouts.
SMD work takes so long, I'd much rather see it pre-done as well.
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö
Yes it is.
But I guess plate is still ANSI only, or universal?
Of course, UNIVERSAL for EVERY supported layouts.
Oh. Nice.
Any picture/images of the new plate? (Just to make sure it supports my language layout).
as an official American keyboard user with Mexican heritage, you should send me a sample to review :thumb:
as an official mexican keyboard user, you should send me a sample to review :thumb:
He's asking for free stuff as a jokeas an official mexican keyboard user, you should send me a sample to review :thumb:
Huh? :confused:
as an official mexican keyboard user, you should send me a sample to review :thumb:
Huh? :confused:
He's asking for free stuff as a jokeas an official mexican keyboard user, you should send me a sample to review :thumb:
Huh? :confused:
He's asking for free stuff as a jokeas an official mexican keyboard user, you should send me a sample to review :thumb:
Huh? :confused:
Ah! Phew.
I got several mails from reviewers after Randomfrankp reviewed.
The VE.A he reviewed was actually paid fully.
That is cool that the reviewer paid for it.He's asking for free stuff as a jokeas an official mexican keyboard user, you should send me a sample to review :thumb:
Huh? :confused:
Ah! Phew.
I got several mails from reviewers after Randomfrankp reviewed.
The VE.A he reviewed was actually paid fully.
Will we be able to buy the Alps plate from your website if it is available in the future?
Will we be able to buy the Alps plate from your website if it is available in the future?
Yes, but not in direct order form thing.
It's very complicated to make Alps plate... So, I think via mail or forum thing.
Will we be able to buy the Alps plate from your website if it is available in the future?
Yes, but not in direct order form thing.
It's very complicated to make Alps plate... So, I think via mail or forum thing.
About one of those potential complications:
How will we acquire ALPS plates of different layouts?
There are so many possibilities for layouts and ALPS switches need discrete cuts so it's hard to include all possibilities in a form.