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Title: [IC] Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: feng on Fri, 26 April 2013, 01:55:04
Update: After the quick interest check, Hammer and I have decided to make the following three keys (sets):
1: Spacebar
2. Ctrl/Alt/Menu/Windows Set
3. Left/Right Shift Set

During the upcoming group buy, you don't have to order the whole keyset, you could just order one key from a keyset. Like a blank 1x R1 key from the #2 set, and a left shift from the #3 set.

The result of the interest check shows that 27 out of 44 people chose spacebar as their favorite. The secondly popular one is Ctrl/Alt set. Enter kinda beats Left/Right Shift keys a little bit. But we decided to provide a complete Row 1 keyset and save Enter and the other keys for the next round.

For now, we just need to pick two from the five fonts before the group buy.

1. Arial Rounded (Similar to Cherry font)
2. Segoe Print
3. Ocr-A Bt
4. Comic Sans Ms (the font that I use for item description on my eBay)
5. Utsaah (Similar to Filco font)

 

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Please vote for your favorite two fonts by submitting the following form!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uE0q0Zq2MpfyKPO1PlKReAbRQWxBteTOfg4UbgNyAnA/viewform?sid=4ed61f89801ab1da&token=jwhpWT4BAAA.TUQBwrbZodXeun-adtznLg.ExDBDqOv1HDkpJz0M4HC1A


Update: 1x R1 was added to the Ctrl/Alt set in order to complete 1.5 modifier set. Its approx price is $30 for each blank one, and engraving service is $5 same as the others. But only one image would be availale - the following Windows Logo

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It's been a while since the last group buy for Hammer's titanium spacebar. Actually it's been eight months. :/ Hammer is a busy man and he normally doesn't have time to make these hand-polished titanium keycaps. In order to keep the quality right there, he only shapes and polishes each titanium keycap by hands instead of machine.

However, after pushing him for months, he eventually promised me to make some titanium modifier keycaps, as well as the spacebar.

For this group buy, he can provide three different types of keycaps from the following:

1. Spacebar (same price as last group buy, $100 for 6.25x, $110 for 7x, and extra fees for 4 and 6 stems)

2. Ctrl/Win/Alt/Menu/1x R1 (approx $35 for each blank 1.25x, $40 for blank 1.5x, $30 for blank 1x R1)

3. Enter (approx $80 for each blank one)

4. Backspace (approx $80 for each blank one)

5. Left Shift (approx $80 for each blank one)

6. Right Shift (approx $80 for each blank one)

7. Tab (approx $40 for each blank one)

8. Capslock (approx $40 for each blank one)


Please READ:

As same as last round, three types of finish: Brushed, Shiny, and Sandblasted. Three profiles: Cherry, SP, and OEM.

There's an optional service for polishing the spacebar. You can choose have two different finishes on one spacebar by paying extra $15. For example, brushed top and shiny four sides. It was originally Ji_Jil32's idea. Check out his spacebar here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34407.msg673067#msg673067

There're two types of thickness for the spacebar: 1.0 mm and 1.5 mm. The spacebars from last group buy are all 1.0 mm and I would say they're already pretty heavy (about 15g for 6.25x 3-stems, 18g for 6.25x 6-stems). Thick plastic keycaps are awesome, but thick metal keycaps? I don't really think so.  :rolleyes: But someone keep asking me about the extra thick version, so here it is.

The approximate price is for blank keycaps only. The engraving service charges $5 for each keycap. We have two different fonts for you. We haven't decided on which two we're going to provide yet. But most likely Cherry font would be one of the choices.

You might wonder why those big modifier keys like enter, backspacebar, and shift are so expensive, it's because the processing fees for these 3-stem keys are almost the same as spacebar.

Hammer only provides regular capslock keys, NO STEPPED capslock! It's hard to polish the stepped capslock.


If you have any questions, it would be better to post them in this thread. My inbox is a mess now and there're a lot of unread messages because it's close to my finals.

Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 26 April 2013, 02:13:51
THICK!

Gonna get me a THICK SB and sell my thin one!

:rolleyes: But someone keep asking me about the extra thick version, so here it is.

I'm anal retentive... Sorry...
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Sai on Fri, 26 April 2013, 02:14:53
i am interested but i'll have to see the time line.

and i just submitted SB for all 3 options. ...
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Jupiter on Fri, 26 April 2013, 02:29:50
Enter key all the way. If I can't have them all, I could settle for just the space bar and enter :P
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 26 April 2013, 02:51:42
Ctrl/Win/Alt/Menu, Enter, Backspace

Please skip the spacebar!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 26 April 2013, 03:21:20
Oh Feng.  It looks like time to choose which key-sets to dump for these babies.

I want them all for my MKC key-board.  Please let us know what Type Fonts you'll be choosing to engrave with.  Cherry would be superb but standard WYSE is acceptable.

These babies are going to be saved for  8) .

I want them all, Modifiers, Tab, Enter, Shifts, CapsLock, Backspace and a 7 inch Spacer.  Thank Hammer for doing this.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: leesofi on Fri, 26 April 2013, 03:23:35
The_Beast  can complete his metal set. good~
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 26 April 2013, 05:37:05
But I want to make a Titanium RGB essentially AND I need a 7x Sandblasted spacebar :(

We need a 4th option, how else will I spend around $500 on Ti keys.

In the case of 1.5x mods will there be 1x keys to go with it?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: i3oilermaker on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:21:05
Voted.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:24:59
Need all of it. Not just three! I want all titanium caps for one 84-key. Thanks!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: r3dx on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:25:25
Voted.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: boost on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:29:45
voted..Man a completed set would just be awesome!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: i3oilermaker on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:36:31
voted..Man a completed set would just be awesome!

And drain your retirement fund
Title: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:36:40
Awe, no full mod set :(
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:47:40
As long as we're doing an interest check, why not an interest check for a full-mod or full set (84/86 or 87-key). There are a few of us who might drain our retirement funds for that. :P
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: JPG on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:53:57
voted..Man a completed set would just be awesome!

After the FullMetalFilco, I see coming a full Ti keyboard!!! (and someone robbing a bank or two to finance it)
Title: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:58:11
Is Hammer able to create 1x caps? I mean...like JD says...full Ti board may interest a few.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: jalaj on Fri, 26 April 2013, 09:07:01
How about Topre compatible Ti spacebars? At least for HHKB P2 and RF 87U/104U.
Title: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Trev on Fri, 26 April 2013, 09:21:07
How about Topre compatible Ti spacebars? At least for HHKB P2 and RF 87U/104U.

That's an excellent idea.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: jalaj on Fri, 26 April 2013, 09:27:54
Exactly. The MX PBT spacebars are holding up pretty well against shine as well as a plethora of replacement options available. Unlike the Topre ABS spacebars, which a Ti spacebar would resolve. Feng, you're sitting on a gold mine idea here.
Title: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 26 April 2013, 09:36:02
I concur. I'd jump on a topre spacebar.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 April 2013, 09:39:13
I'd jump on a topre spacebar.

That might bend even titanium.
Title: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 26 April 2013, 09:59:44
I'd jump on a topre spacebar.

That might bend even titanium.

Ouch! So cruel! Why the hate bro!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 26 April 2013, 11:05:29
I'd love a set with everything but the tabs and caps lock.


Also, I need a 7x spacebar, so ignore my last comment
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Dianoda on Fri, 26 April 2013, 11:39:40
I need some 1x cherry profile winkeys for my LZ... so I'm in for at least two of those.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: codyeatworld on Fri, 26 April 2013, 11:42:42
Awesome!! They look really nice, I don't know if I can shell out $100 for a spacebar.. But I'd pick up some R1's and mods!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: feng on Fri, 26 April 2013, 11:57:54
THICK!

Gonna get me a THICK SB and sell my thin one!

:rolleyes: But someone keep asking me about the extra thick version, so here it is.

I'm anal retentive... Sorry...

I guess the thick version was particularly provided for you. :P

Anal retentive? What's that supposed to mean? :-X I only understand the first word which is ...

Oh Feng.  It looks like time to choose which key-sets to dump for these babies.

I want them all for my MKC key-board.  Please let us know what Type Fonts you'll be choosing to engrave with.  Cherry would be superb but standard WYSE is acceptable.

These babies are going to be saved for  8) .

I want them all, Modifiers, Tab, Enter, Shifts, CapsLock, Backspace and a 7 inch Spacer.  Thank Hammer for doing this.

Maybe I'll do another interest check for choosing the fonts. But yeah, at least I think we should provide Cherry font because it's quite popular.

But I want to make a Titanium RGB essentially AND I need a 7x Sandblasted spacebar :(

We need a 4th option, how else will I spend around $500 on Ti keys.

In the case of 1.5x mods will there be 1x keys to go with it?

One at a time. :) I don't want to trouble Hammer too much, and it would take even longer to making them if we have more options. I'm trying to keep the production time less than two months. We certainly can do all of the modifer keycaps, but you don't want to see a "Titanium Round 4", do you? :P Let's just get this round running first, and then we should be able to do more in the future.

Need all of it. Not just three! I want all titanium caps for one 84-key. Thanks!

I asked Hammer the same question long ago, and he scared me away with the costs of Ti keycaps.

As long as we're doing an interest check, why not an interest check for a full-mod or full set (84/86 or 87-key). There are a few of us who might drain our retirement funds for that. :P

Hammer said it would take him a month to make just one full Ti 86/87-keyset.  :-X Each keycap needs to be polished by hand.

Is Hammer able to create 1x caps? I mean...like JD says...full Ti board may interest a few.

Just added the 1x R1 keycap after talking to him. Even though it caused the group buy taking a bit longer, but I think it's necessary if the Ctrl/Alt/Menu/Windows set makes it through this interest check. The other 1x caps are not available for this round. We'll see.

Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:02:29
HERE COMES MY TI ARROW CLUSTER MUAHAHAHH ;D
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:05:32
I bet that sand blasting is considerably easier than polishing. Not to mention it looks the best.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Dianoda on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:10:49
I bet that sand blasting is considerably easier than polishing. Not to mention it looks the best.

QFT, sand blasted all the way.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:26:13
I bet that sand blasting is considerably easier than polishing. Not to mention it looks the best.

QFT, sand blasted all the way.

Double that truth!


Topre Feng, what's the viability of that? I'll pay Hammer $100 to make me a titanium Fn cap for my HHKB!
Title: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: iArson on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:33:01
In for a 7x space at :D
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:17:50
THICK!

Gonna get me a THICK SB and sell my thin one!

:rolleyes: But someone keep asking me about the extra thick version, so here it is.

I'm anal retentive... Sorry...

I guess the thick version was particularly provided for you. :P

Anal retentive? What's that supposed to mean? :-X I only understand the first word which is ...

From Wikipedia:

Quote from: Wikipedia
Anal retentiveness
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Not to be confused with constipation.
The term retentive (also anally retentive), commonly abbreviated to anal,[1] is used conversationally to describe a person who pays such attention to detail that the obsession becomes an annoyance to others, potentially to the detriment of the anal-retentive person. The term derives from Freudian psychoanalysis.

Asperger's makes you anal retentive. We cant help it...
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:35:23
I would go as far as to drop the polished as a finish option if that means that would could get another 2 caps added (to make a full set). I really love my brushed spacebar and hardly ever use my shiney one since it's a pain in the butt to clean
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:40:07
Don't you go messin' wit my SHINY bro!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:01:06
feng i didnt read we only get a few of them at first I almost thought i was going to spend more money on keycaps that my keyboard. So yea umm I want them all :D.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: longweight on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:00:36
Will he not do full mods? How much would that cost me to get?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: longweight on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:07:29
I would go as far as to drop the polished as a finish option if that means that would could get another 2 caps added (to make a full set). I really love my brushed spacebar and hardly ever use my shiney one since it's a pain in the butt to clean
This, shiny is ****.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:09:03
You are allowed to have an opinion, but why should he drop my order (and everyone else's who orders shiny) just because you 2 don't like shiny?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: longweight on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:12:59
Because not many people will order shiny. Plus I will order over $600 of mods if it is a full set.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:14:03
Because not many people will order shiny. Plus I will order over $600 of mods if it is a full set.
does sandblast or brush match the scarface set you have?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: longweight on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:16:26
Sandblasted goes very well! Brushed wouldn't.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:18:57
Because not many people will order shiny. Plus I will order over $600 of mods if it is a full set.

Oh really? Let's look at last round shall we. I count 23 shiny, 13 brushed, and 10 sandblasted. Shiny accounted for HALF.

Quote
NameLengthProfileStemsFinishingShippingPaidShipped
mkawa6.25xCherry3xShinyPriorityYesYes
The_Beast(1)6.25xCherry3xBrushedPriorityYesYes
The_Beast(2)6.25x Cherry  3xShiny
The_Ed6.25xCherry6xShinyPriorityYesYes
i3oilermaker(1)6.25xSP3xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
i3oilermaker(2)6.25x SP3xSandblasted
i3oilermaker(3)6.25x SP3xBrushed
DanGWanG7x Cherry3xSandblastedPriorityYesYes
props_go_round6.25xOEM6xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
Djuzuh6.25xCherry3xBrushedFirst ClassYesYes
dorkvader6.25xCherry6xShinyPriorityYesYes
mm876.25xCherry3xShinyPriorityYesYes
longweight6.25xCherry3xSandblastedPriorityYesYes
jcrouse6.25xCherry6xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
GMC(1)6.25xOEM3xShinyPriorityYesYes
GMC(2)6.25xOEM3xShiny
peptobiscuit6.25xOEM3xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
tsangan(1)7xCherry3xBrushedYesYes
tsangan(2)7xCherry3xShiny
tsangan(3)6.25xCherry6xBrushed
danielucf6.25xOEM3xSandblastedPriorityYesYes
oneproduct6.25xOEM3xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
paudash(1)6.25xOEM3xSandblastedPriorityYesYes
paudash(2)6.25xOEM3xSandblasted
WhiteFireDragon6.25xCherry3xSandblastedFirst ClassYesYes
leesofi(1)6.25xSP3xBrushedFirst ClassYesYes
leesofi(2)7xCherry3xSandblasted
Lord de Seis6.25xCherry3xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
suprsmo(1)6.25xCherry3xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
suprsmo(2)6.25xCherry3xBrushed
xcelerate6.25xOEM3xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
tipo336.25xCherry4xShinyFirst ClassYes
jessecoleman6.25xOEM3xBrushedFirst ClassYesYes
Elrick(1)6.25xCherry3xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
Elrick(2)6.25xOEM3xBrushed
JonDBurnett6.25xOEM3xShinyPriorityYesYes
mehkat19746.25xOEM3xShinyFirst ClassYesYes
Quadrupliplex6.25xCherry6xShinyPriorityYesYes
jil_jil327xCherry3xBrushedFirst ClassYesYes
mm877xCherry3xShinyPriorityYesYes
Harlequin7xCherry3xSandblastedFirst ClassYesYes
esoomenona6.25xOEM3xBrushedFirst ClassYesYes
zzspectrez6.25xCherry6xShinyPriorityYesYes
gijay6.25xCherry3xBrushedFirst ClassYesYes
Halverson6.25xOEM3xSandblastedFirst ClassYesYes
Gyokuro6.25xOEM6xBrushedFirst ClassYesYes
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:19:52
I don't care if they're shiny, brushed, sandblasted, or whatever. As long as I get a full set of them for my LZ.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:22:08
All those keys will be done eventually, but only 3 right now. So choose.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: longweight on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:25:25
Fair enough, a lot of people have bad taste then!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:28:10
We don't have bad taste, your preference is just different from the majority.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:29:03
You guys, it's just like Pokemon. You choose one of three, everyone has a fav!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: feng on Fri, 26 April 2013, 20:26:18
How about Topre compatible Ti spacebars? At least for HHKB P2 and RF 87U/104U.

Hammer and I have talked about this months ago and unfortunately it's not gonna work. Apparently it's not impossible to make Ti spacebar w/ Topre stems, but the thing is that metal spacebar would ruin your Topre keyboards. And not just spacebar, also all the other metal keycaps like R1, R2, R3, etc. I'm sure you've noticed that whenever you push down a Topre keycap, you would hear a clicking sound. There's a little plastic thing inside the Topre switch causing that clicking sound. Plastic keycaps are elastic, but metal ones are not. If you're trying to install a metal keycap on Topre keyboard, it would damage that plastic little thing.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 26 April 2013, 20:30:03
How about Topre compatible Ti spacebars? At least for HHKB P2 and RF 87U/104U.

Hammer and I have talked about this months ago and unfortunately it's not gonna work. Apparently it's not impossible to make Ti spacebar w/ Topre stems, but the thing is that metal spacebar would ruin your Topre keyboards. And not just spacebar, also all the other metal keycaps like R1, R2, R3, etc. I'm sure you've noticed that whenever you push down a Topre keycap, you would hear a clicking sound. There's a little plastic thing inside the Topre switch causing that clicking sound. Plastic keycaps are elastic, but metal ones are not. If you're trying to install a metal keycap on Topre keyboard, it would damage that plastic little thing.

Damn! Suppose plastic is all I'll ever know on this HHKB!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: alixinhzai on Fri, 26 April 2013, 20:38:11
In for 3 space and one enter: )
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: kiczek on Sat, 27 April 2013, 00:21:52
Can Hammer do Filco Ninja engraving?  I own a USA Filco Ninja Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR, Click Action, Keyboard FKBN87MC/EFB2

OMG Titanium Modifiers side engraved /drool

QuantityPriceTotalDescription
11001001. 6.25x Brushed Titanium Spacebar
240802a. 1.25x Ctrl Brushed Ninja Engraved
240802b. 1.25x Windows Brushed Ninja Engraved
240802c. 1.25x Alt Brushed Ninja Engraved
140402d. 1.25x Menu Brushed Ninja Engraved
185853. Enter Brushed Ninja Engraved
185854. Backspace Brushed Ninja Engraved
185855. Left Shift Brushed Ninja Engraved
185856. Right Shift Brushed Ninja Engraved
145457a. Tab Brushed Ninja Engraved
145457b. \ | Brushed Ninja Engraved
145458. Capslock Brushed Ninja Engraved
15855Total Cost for a Filco Ninja Engraved Modifier Set


Does this price include the divorce paperwork I will need?
Title: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 27 April 2013, 01:14:33
Hahahahaha! Topre cannot withstand the might of a metal keycap.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: jalaj on Sat, 27 April 2013, 01:38:11
How about Topre compatible Ti spacebars? At least for HHKB P2 and RF 87U/104U.

Hammer and I have talked about this months ago and unfortunately it's not gonna work. Apparently it's not impossible to make Ti spacebar w/ Topre stems, but the thing is that metal spacebar would ruin your Topre keyboards. And not just spacebar, also all the other metal keycaps like R1, R2, R3, etc. I'm sure you've noticed that whenever you push down a Topre keycap, you would hear a clicking sound. There's a little plastic thing inside the Topre switch causing that clicking sound. Plastic keycaps are elastic, but metal ones are not. If you're trying to install a metal keycap on Topre keyboard, it would damage that plastic little thing.

good to know, thanks
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: mm87 on Sat, 27 April 2013, 02:57:15
Any chance to have both Shifts together as 1 option?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: feng on Sat, 27 April 2013, 03:18:44
After talking to Hammer, he said that maybe we can do these three: Spacebar, Atl/Ctrl set, and Left/Right Shift set. What do you guys think of it? We can leave the enter, backspace, etc. for the next round.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 27 April 2013, 03:23:20
After talking to Hammer, he said that maybe we can do these three: Spacebar, Atl/Ctrl set, and Left/Right Shift set. What do you guys think of it? We can leave the enter, backspace, etc. for the next round.

Sounds good to me! More keys = better
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: zenuty on Sat, 27 April 2013, 03:27:01
Titanium Amazing !!!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: kiczek on Sat, 27 April 2013, 03:29:42
After talking to Hammer, he said that maybe we can do these three: Spacebar, Atl/Ctrl set, and Left/Right Shift set. What do you guys think of it? We can leave the enter, backspace, etc. for the next round.

Sounds good to me! More keys = better

Will he do the Windows Key and Menu Key ? Can he engrave the keys on the side "ninja" style ?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: feng on Sat, 27 April 2013, 03:38:17
Yeah Windows and Menu are included in the Ctrl/Alt set. Hammer said side engraving is not a problem, but he would prefer not doing it for this round. We need to keep this group buy as simple as possible for Hammer, it's already a lot of work for him to do. He said that if we want side printing, then it gotta be all side printing, no top printing provided then. But I guess most would still prefer go with top printing.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: feng on Sat, 27 April 2013, 03:58:04
Now we would only have two different fonts to provide and these two fonts have to look clearly different because it would be easy to mix them up during shippin if they look alike. Cherry font will most likely be one of the two choices.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: longweight on Sat, 27 April 2013, 05:36:23
Can we not just keep them blank? Nice and simple :)
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 11:23:51
It's funny that you have time to respond to this thread, but not your other threads where people are still missing items.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 27 April 2013, 11:26:23
It's funny that you have time to respond to this thread, but not your other threads where people are still missing items.

Uhmmmm, you're more than likely thinking of sherry who's been AKF for a while


Feng has always been good about updating people and filling orders
Title: Re: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 27 April 2013, 11:28:56
It's funny that you have time to respond to this thread, but not your other threads where people are still missing items.

Uhmmmm, you're more than likely thinking of sherry who's been AKF for a while


Feng has always been good about updating people and filling orders

We've been waiting over three months for our pullers :p
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 27 April 2013, 11:30:21
It's funny that you have time to respond to this thread, but not your other threads where people are still missing items.

Uhmmmm, you're more than likely thinking of sherry who's been AKF for a while


Feng has always been good about updating people and filling orders

We've been waiting over three months for our pullers :p


Oh, I was thinking of, but never did buy one. I've never had problems with feng before, the R1 Ti spacebars were produced and shipped relatively fast considering the manufacturing process
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 11:33:08
I've never had problems with feng either, until now. But then I personally never had problems with sherryton until this bout of them, so...
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: longweight on Sat, 27 April 2013, 15:05:20
Why aren't more people excited by this?!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Ed on Sat, 27 April 2013, 15:08:23
I think more people just look at the Group Buy section. A lot of interest checks never get off the ground, so they try not to get their hopes up by only checking the groupbuys.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 27 April 2013, 15:10:56
I'd get one of the multi finished SB's, expensive, yes, worth it, ?.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: mm87 on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:45:03
After talking to Hammer, he said that maybe we can do these three: Spacebar, Atl/Ctrl set, and Left/Right Shift set. What do you guys think of it? We can leave the enter, backspace, etc. for the next round.

Makes the most sense IMO.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: longweight on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:48:15
Sounds like a good idea to me, when will this be likely to happen?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 28 April 2013, 08:01:32
Feng has always been good about updating people and filling orders

I've bought heaps of stuff from Feng and never, ever had any problems at all.  This guy sends the stuff out almost immediately.  To me, he's the MOST TRUSTED Seller here on Geekhack.

Enough said  8) .

That is why I'm always interested in his Group Buys particularly when it comes to Key-caps.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: habitualapse on Sun, 28 April 2013, 13:49:54
These are so nice, but my eyes have definitely outgrown my wallet.

...I'd be in for a space bar, though. damn these impulses... *smacks head*
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: An9e11 on Sun, 28 April 2013, 22:10:39
So excited!!  ;D
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Michael on Sun, 28 April 2013, 22:13:15
Why aren't more people excited by this?!


Because it isn't Topre
Title: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 28 April 2013, 22:41:05
Why aren't more people excited by this?!


Because it isn't Topre

Brotoprecaps!

Gotta discover a way for titanium topre.....glue on plastic stems to a titanium shell?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: jalaj on Sun, 28 April 2013, 22:51:33
Brotoprecaps!

Gotta discover a way for titanium topre.....glue on plastic stems to a titanium shell?

Or, a titanium external overlay piece over a plastic cap with the stems, like the Model M's.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 28 April 2013, 22:56:25
Enough with the topre babble. This thread is for metal MX keys, so start another thread to complain about there being no feasibility for metal topre keys. Even those plastic shapeways topre keys didn't fit on right.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick Three!!
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 29 April 2013, 09:49:38
I think part of why so many ordered shiny in R1 was because the sand blasted pictures came late, and there were only one or two and it was of modifiers or something not even spacebars. I just got a shiny aluminum spacebar and it is a fingerprint magnet. I don't need more maintenance than mechanical keyboards already require (polishing fingerprints off).

I hope payment isn't required for this until June/July. Need to save up unless I get lots of cash gifts at the wedding :p
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: feng on Tue, 30 April 2013, 06:08:08
Can we not just keep them blank? Nice and simple :)
I was about to keep them blank, but then I thought there must be some people really loving the printed ones.

It's funny that you have time to respond to this thread, but not your other threads where people are still missing items.
I have too many things to handle at this time, but I'll try my best to take care of each group buy.

Sounds like a good idea to me, when will this be likely to happen?
If I have enough time, I will launch the group buy this week. If not, then next week after my Finals.

I hope payment isn't required for this until June/July. Need to save up unless I get lots of cash gifts at the wedding :p
No need to worry about it, I'm sure you'll have time to save up. :) I'll be taking orders for one and half month. If it starts on May 1st, then I'll stop taking orders on June 15th. As usual, first batch of production will start first for those who have placed an order.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 02 May 2013, 19:57:25
I'm ordering blanks, but cherry font would for sure be the most popular


I don't even know what comic sans is anywhere near this....
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: Trev on Thu, 02 May 2013, 20:13:04
What are the odds of something like this happening for Topre? Is there simply no tooling for such a thing?
We're all stuck with ABS(yuck) spacebars.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 02 May 2013, 20:14:21
What are the odds of something like this happening for Topre? Is there simply no tooling for such a thing?
We're all stuck with ABS(yuck) spacebars.

None, metal doesn't work with topre. feng answered this on the first page I think
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: Trev on Thu, 02 May 2013, 20:34:09
What are the odds of something like this happening for Topre? Is there simply no tooling for such a thing?
We're all stuck with ABS(yuck) spacebars.

None, metal doesn't work with topre. feng answered this on the first page I think
Ah, I missed that. So... the design depends on the keycap material having some give for the retention mechanism to not completely wear out, makes sense. Guess I'll keep trolling around waiting for a Topre PBT spacebar (how is it possible that these don't exist?).
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 03 May 2013, 08:16:55
Arial Rounded seems nice. If you can't get Futura Italic.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: Trev on Fri, 03 May 2013, 08:24:22
Arial Helvetica Rounded seems nice. If you can't get Futura Italic.

I fixed that for you, sir. :D
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: longweight on Sun, 05 May 2013, 16:20:11
Please tell me that blank is still an option?!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: longweight on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:05:57
Anyone?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: Jupiter on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:59:21
Bottom of first post says prices are for blank and engraving is extra $5. I'm assuming that means you can still get blanks.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: longweight on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:18:25
Phew thanks!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:20:54
How heavy are these Titanium SB's in comparison to the Aluminum ones that you recently put out Feng?

Do we have option to make thick vs thin?  would thin be cheaper?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Ed on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:31:08
Why does no-one seem to read the OP...

There're two types of thickness for the spacebar: 1.0 mm and 1.5 mm. The spacebars from last group buy are all 1.0 mm and I would say they're already pretty heavy (about 15g for 6.25x 3-stems, 18g for 6.25x 6-stems). Thick plastic keycaps are awesome, but thick metal keycaps? I don't really think so.  :rolleyes: But someone keep asking me about the extra thick version, so here it is.

The approximate price is for blank keycaps only. The engraving service charges $5 for each keycap. We have two different fonts for you. We haven't decided on which two we're going to provide yet. But most likely Cherry font would be one of the choices.

FYI - Thinner means more work because you have to remove more material.

I changed my SB switch from a red to a black for my thin titanium SB, so I *may* have to change to a grey 37 for a thick one.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:32:15
Why does no-one seem to read the OP...

There're two types of thickness for the spacebar: 1.0 mm and 1.5 mm. The spacebars from last group buy are all 1.0 mm and I would say they're already pretty heavy (about 15g for 6.25x 3-stems, 18g for 6.25x 6-stems). Thick plastic keycaps are awesome, but thick metal keycaps? I don't really think so.  :rolleyes: But someone keep asking me about the extra thick version, so here it is.

The approximate price is for blank keycaps only. The engraving service charges $5 for each keycap. We have two different fonts for you. We haven't decided on which two we're going to provide yet. But most likely Cherry font would be one of the choices.

FYI - Thinner means more work because you have to remove more material.

I changed my SB switch from a red to a black for my thin titanium SB, so I *may* have to change to a grey 37 for a thick one.

I thought they cast the Ti and then machined it. If that's true, then it would be no more work to make a thin Ti spacebar, and would use less material
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Ed on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:36:07
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:39:10

This tells me nothing, they still could have been cast
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Ed on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:41:37
The amount of customization would mean a LOT of molds if they were cast...
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:48:41
The amount of customization would mean a LOT of molds if they were cast...

Not really, a pattern could be made out of wood and cast in sand. No dies would be needed


ANYWAYS.........
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 21:16:00
Why does no-one seem to read the OP...

There're two types of thickness for the spacebar: 1.0 mm and 1.5 mm. The spacebars from last group buy are all 1.0 mm and I would say they're already pretty heavy (about 15g for 6.25x 3-stems, 18g for 6.25x 6-stems). Thick plastic keycaps are awesome, but thick metal keycaps? I don't really think so.  :rolleyes: But someone keep asking me about the extra thick version, so here it is.

The approximate price is for blank keycaps only. The engraving service charges $5 for each keycap. We have two different fonts for you. We haven't decided on which two we're going to provide yet. But most likely Cherry font would be one of the choices.

FYI - Thinner means more work because you have to remove more material.

I changed my SB switch from a red to a black for my thin titanium SB, so I *may* have to change to a grey 37 for a thick one.

I have read the OP when it was first posted, which as been a while.  Also the OP has been modified since I originally read it.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Ed on Mon, 06 May 2013, 21:55:52
That was in the ORIGINAL OP...
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 06 May 2013, 22:10:39
Phew thanks!
You got me scared there was no more blanks .-.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: YongJK on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:04:07
will definitely join for Titanium SB  ;D
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: The_Ed on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:09:30
I think it would be funny if every round has the spacebar option.

Release the order form!
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 16 May 2013, 00:18:53
Completely awesome--but so expensive.  I wish I could get my hands on a silver aluminum space bar from an old GB; my wallet can handle that.
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: ishtob on Wed, 22 May 2013, 02:24:30
any plans for a DSA profile space bar?
Title: Re: Hammer's Titanium Spacebar & Modifier Keycaps (Interest Check) Pick the FONTS!!
Post by: feng on Thu, 30 May 2013, 20:57:02
Group buy is on going!

http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=70.0