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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:36:46

Title: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:36:46
Renamed this IC for the sake of transparency.  I don't want anyone to think there's a movement in over-all direction.

Mission Statement:

Offer a group buy for a hooded piece of geekhack apparel that is a relatively attractive.  Some people will like it and some will not like it.


This thread will be updated with price-breaks when the information becomes available.

In the meantime fill out the following form to assist in organizing this bad boy.  FILL OUT THIS FORM (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/148vXbpnFndflW4aDt-DCcUPrgwxg1o7EnMT01i2hHGc/viewform)

Also looking for geekhack logos, and I'll be hosting a poll once we have a bunch compiled.  If you'd like a specific logo option please post it here.  If you know the origin of the logo PLEASE name the creator so we can contact and request permission to use the image.  This whole thing will require auth of this forum to proceed, and I'd like to have my ducks in a row before approaching teh big wigs.

EXAMPLES

SportCoUSA
(http://cfile239.uf.daum.net/image/171CE6464F17D3FC21C4FD)
(http://image.thegraphicedge.com/catalog/Items/6511L.jpg)
Pennant
(http://image.thegraphicedge.com/catalog/Items/5499L.jpg)
American Apparell
(http://i.americanapparel.net/storefront/photos/zoom/serve.asp?media=F497_Navy_Red.jpg&r=us1)
ImagePointe
(http://www.imagepointe.com/webres/Image/products/TWO-TONE-HOODED-SWEATSHIRT.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: lazerpointer on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:38:55
In for one, bring it!!
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:41:22
In for one. I'd wear this so hard :D
Title: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:46:03
Any option for dorsal fin back holes? :p
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: tauburn on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:46:25
"Hey (person) what's geekhack?"

I couldn't put up with that everytime i wear it.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:46:48
Any option for dorsal fin back holes? :p

available upon request :p
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: lazerpointer on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:47:22
"Hey (person) what's geekhack?"

I couldn't put up with that everytime i wear it.

I would just point to the ".org"

It's gonna have a ".org" right? People have to know it's a website and not some new religion lol

Edit;
most people won't stop you in your tracks to bother you about your gear XD
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:48:05
I really like that idea!

I'll follow this thread to see how this thing will develop :)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:48:12
"Hey (person) what's geekhack?"

I couldn't put up with that everytime i wear it.
Agreed. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43251.msg881478#msg881478
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:50:01
"Hey (person) what's geekhack?"

I couldn't put up with that everytime i wear it.
Agreed. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43251.msg881478#msg881478

I'll tell everyone my name is George Hardman.  :P

-- on that subject.  Again, if you have a logo idea/concept post it here so we can get a poll going
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:52:41
I like the logo from this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39279.msg767864#msg767864).

(http://i.imgur.com/FMJaFl.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: whiteduck on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:54:59
whats with the snaps?  zipper plz!
I just posted this in Jwaz's thread but here it is again
http://www.teamliquid.net/store/us/hoodies

the TL hoodie is excellent so a GH color scheme with this design would also be excellent.

hmm?

-wd
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:02:05
"Pop her Cherry MX"

(http://i43.tinypic.com/34nr7et.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:04:22
The TeamLiquid hoodie is an American Apparel blank. It runs small but I love mine so much. I usually wear a L but my TeamLiquid hoodie is an XL. Just food for thought
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:08:23
I'm so in for one.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: lazerpointer on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:14:40
whats with the snaps?  zipper plz!

Have some taste, man! Everybody knows buttons are cooler than zippers!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:14:50
"Pop her Cherry MX"

Show Image
(http://i43.tinypic.com/34nr7et.gif)


LOL
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:19:54
Just a reminder if you want to help PLEASE fill out the form.  It'll give me more time to research instead of counting interest.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: whiteduck on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:22:02
whats with the snaps?  zipper plz!

Have some taste, man! Everybody knows buttons are cooler than zippers!  :p
the last jacket I had with snap buttons was from the 80's.  don't mean to hate but that design in the OP is fugly...  please refer to CPT's shared love for the TL hoodie and take into consideration!  I would buy at least 2 if this was an option.
<3
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: i3oilermaker on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:24:07
Any way to make this a zip up, or pull over hoodie?  Not a big fan of the button up.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:25:12
whats with the snaps?  zipper plz!

Have some taste, man! Everybody knows buttons are cooler than zippers!  :p
the last jacket I had with snap buttons was from the 80's.  don't mean to hate but that design in the OP is fugly...  please refer to CPT's shared love for the TL hoodie and take into consideration!  I would buy at least 2 if this was an option.
<3

Any way to make this a zip up, or pull over hoodie?  Not a big fan of the button up.

So far I only have 3 people interested in a GH hoodie according to the form.  If people get past step #1 we can move on to step #2 and find a supplier/style
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:26:08
Any way to make this a zip up, or pull over hoodie?  Not a big fan of the button up.

I'm not against the button up but I'd much prefer a zip-up as well
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: i3oilermaker on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:28:43
Form filled
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:36:36
I like the logo from this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39279.msg767864#msg767864).

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FMJaFl.jpg)


I agree.  This logo across the front of the sweater would be sweet!  Or the GH keycaps in Grey/orange printed on either side of the zipper.   I would be down for a zipper style, or even more for a pull over. 

[attachimg=1]

(wasn't sure of exact font so I just used Kristen ITC so you get the idea)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: whiteduck on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:36:38
filled form!
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:41:40
I like the ideas that are popping up.  Ideas on placement, font, and style will be in round 2 of the forms.

Looks like a whole lot of love for gray, black, and orange :)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:43:17
I'm gonna be in. Let me know a price and when to pay.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:44:04
T-Shirt, bro! It's too f'ing hot in Texas for a hoodie.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:46:56
Move to Wisconsin. Problem solved. :P
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:47:20
I'd be in for a black/gray tee shirt with a diagram of the IBM buckling spring mechanism. I thought I saw someone had one, but I'm not sure
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:47:49
Move to Wisconsin. Problem solved. :P

It's hot as balls here too, for a couple months


and it's not a dry heat like Texas
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:48:14
How about that logo that Krogenar created for the banners?
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:48:25
http://www.cafepress.com/geekhack
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:49:39
T-Shirt, bro! It's too f'ing hot in Texas for a hoodie.
I feel sad because I bought some nice winter clothes, and I barely even got to wear them!

and it's not a dry heat like Texas
Wha-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Houston
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:50:47
T-Shirt, bro! It's too f'ing hot in Texas for a hoodie.

Round 2 = tshirts?  You're gonna need one of these when you come up north.  lol

smallfry, fill out the form or I will remove the ability for you to get one of these >:{
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:50:58
T-Shirt, bro! It's too f'ing hot in Texas for a hoodie.

This. A t-shirt would be cheaper, have more universal appeal, which would translate into more purchases.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:53:48
How about that logo that Krogenar created for the banners?

Any chance you could link that here?  I'd love to get some fonts with their names/origins in this thread.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:55:49
How about that logo that Krogenar created for the banners?

Any chance you could link that here?  I'd love to get some fonts with their names/origins in this thread.

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42051.0;attach=18244;image)

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42051.0;attach=18626;image)

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42051.0;attach=18036;image)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:57:57
T-Shirt, bro! It's too f'ing hot in Texas for a hoodie.

This. A t-shirt would be cheaper, have more universal appeal, which would translate into more purchases.

That might happen!  Round 2 possibly?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

jd... that's beautiful :)
Title: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: whiskerBox on Mon, 06 May 2013, 13:58:29
Form filled love the idea of a letterman jacket. Hope it's orange and grey !!
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:01:45
just a preview and a warning.  I think saying Letterman Hoodies was a bit premature.

I've got a ton of options in front of me.  The goal of this [IC] is to get a rough count of people interested in a hoodie style piece of apparel showing love for Geekhack.org

Once a completed and attractive idea comes together, which will happen, some people may be disappointed with the outcome.  If there can be options in the eventual [GB] I will offer them.

Three sources are looking really slick.  American Apparel (http://www.americanapparel.net), SportCoUSA (http://sportcousa.com/), and Pennant (https://www.pennantsportswear.com/) seem to have a lot of great styles and choices.

Phase #1 is almost done.  I'm pretty sure the color options are going to be cut and dry.  The community also really just wants a GH logo.

Phase #2 will dive into logo options, style options that fit color preferences, and embroidered vs screen printed.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: emptythecache on Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:06:16
I am absolutely in, as long as it doesn't have the words "pop" and "cherry." No idea why that joke bothers me so much.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Letterman Hoodies
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:14:30
I am absolutely in, as long as it doesn't have the words "pop" and "cherry." No idea why that joke bothers me so much.

Don't worry, I wasn't serious. However, I'm not sure why that would bother anyone. It's just inappropriate to wear on a t-shirt in public.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:45:08
I'm in for whatever design really, but I would love my handle on the hoodie that's for sure. Orange and dark gray are my colors of choice.
And depending on price I will probably get two.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:46:19
I'd do grey on orange, just to mix it up. :P
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:00:47
Some good ideas...are we going with the sweatshirt because it'll take until winter to get it?

Otherwise its about to be summer!  ???
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:03:07
Some good ideas...are we going with the sweatshirt because it'll take until winter to get it?

Otherwise its about to be summer!  ???

Totally good rationality.  No time-frame yet.  Who knows?  Some people might work in a very cold server room?
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:06:55
Some good ideas...are we going with the sweatshirt because it'll take until winter to get it?

Otherwise its about to be summer!  ???

Totally good rationality.  No time-frame yet.  Who knows?  Some people might work in a very cold server room?

Just curious but that is understandable....and I'm jelly of anyone with that job! Our poor excuse for a server room didn't even have air conditioning until a month ago.....

Title: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:16:21
Can we get some nice tank tops? Aka beaters.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:16:37
nice, but not so nice for peeps that live in Fl, my AC runs at 65 and I'm still sweating bullets, just hot blooded, hoodie and that woolen cap is last thing I need.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Rayne on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:20:31
I Filled the form.
I would really only be interested if it ends up as  zip-up hoodie and/or t-shirt tho
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: missalaire on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:26:08
I'd be interested in a t-shirt.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:27:22
I Filled the form.
I would really only be interested if it ends up as  zip-up hoodie and/or t-shirt tho

Sounds good man.  There are going to be more steps to this than the initial form.  Thanks for your interest in choosing colors/logo options

I'd be interested in a t-shirt.

Maybe a round 2 then. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:28:19
I think if anything, a shirt should be round one. It's summer-time!
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:30:34
I think if anything, a shirt should be round one. It's summer-time!

No timeframe for completion yet. :(

Also tbh I would first offer a polo option before a t-shirt.

(http://image.thegraphicedge.com/catalog/Items/6714L.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:12:43
(http://i.imgur.com/u26fDuL.png) (http://i.imgur.com/xpjZA9a.png) (http://i.imgur.com/MBUIck0.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: missalaire on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:28:19
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/u26fDuL.png)


I'd tap that.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:28:43
I'd double tap that.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:30:54
Added another for those more daring
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: whiskerBox on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:40:02
OP has lost control, Iron fist needed now theres 40 different things people want. I thought the letterman was cool the rest of this stuff can be ordered on cafe press or american apparel really cheap.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: sth on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:43:36
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xpjZA9a.png)


no no no no no no no no 

no


jesus, NO.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:45:27
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xpjZA9a.png)


no no no no no no no no 

no


jesus, NO.

usure? May I interest you in an ultra-rare, limited edition $250 t-shirt?

(http://i.imgur.com/MBUIck0.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: emptythecache on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:56:21
OP has lost control, Iron fist needed now theres 40 different things people want. I thought the letterman was cool the rest of this stuff can be ordered on cafe press or american apparel really cheap.

I agree. Lettermen styled hoodie. black with orange sleeves. big GH on the chest. That's the best solution here.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: missalaire on Mon, 06 May 2013, 20:32:02
OP has lost control, Iron fist needed now theres 40 different things people want. I thought the letterman was cool the rest of this stuff can be ordered on cafe press or american apparel really cheap.

Poll imo.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 06 May 2013, 20:35:43
I agree. Lettermen styled hoodie. black with orange sleeves. big GH on the chest. That's the best solution here.

Black Body with Burnt Orange Arms.  Zip up is easy but I'll buy a button up if that's only offered.

Be careful about placing the GH Logo, you can put it on the back really large but on the front best have the text "Geekhack.org" on the Left side chest - pocket area.

I'll buy 2 (TWO) if you can can get them made in the USA, on quality American Cotton material.  Please no Cheapo "Made In China Brands" (we have heaps of those here in Australia anyway).

Besides I've heard you guys (Americans) still have a cotton manufacturing industry in the US, is that still true now?
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 20:50:14
OP has lost control, Iron fist needed now theres 40 different things people want. I thought the letterman was cool the rest of this stuff can be ordered on cafe press or american apparel really cheap.

Poll imo.

bawhawhawhaw, this isn't so bad :} I've got some ideas, and this will progress in a linear fashion. 

Without a supplier we won't be getting ANYTHING, so first we have to know who to inquire about specific fashions which includes the final art. 

At the moment I've found one shop that I think will do what we want, but I haven't ruled out the possibility of doing the screen printing by hand, or getting something even more cool done.

This thread will have rounds of forms and not polls.  You fill them out once and correct your response if you need, the opinions will be tallied, and reality will be figured with all of the wants people have.  We will have product mockup(s), prices, and dates!  Feel free to discuss different options and things.  I'll compile a list of questions to bring to various professionals!  This will give us ammo for more awesome goodies :) 

In the meantime enjoy that discussion, but please don't discount the wants of another as disruptive.  People will be heard but trying to derail/take over/change the original mission will not happen. 

If people need to be reminded this started out as a IC for letterman hoodies, and the only reason a bit of the vision changed was because I want to actually see something happen!  It was always about getting some high quality Geekhack outerwear for me. 
A letterman jacket is still top of the list in my book, and it will still be offered FIRST as the option.  Other hooded options will be considered for the sake of a successful project. 

tl;dr? Be assured OP is reading every post, but I don't tolerate backtracking from myself when the original idea was a damned good one.

/me turns the wheels.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 06 May 2013, 21:23:05

It was always about getting some high quality Geekhack outerwear for me. 


You bet, I would like some too.  I'll start with just 2 purchases but can go up to maybe 4 or 6 depending upon final design.

Please make it available to us foreigners as well.  Shipping/Customs seems to be the biggest hurdle here for anyone wanting to Sell anything to us (Aussie-convicts).

Let's hope it gets made this year sometime  ;D .
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 07 May 2013, 00:27:57
Diggin' the black and orange SportCo hoodie you added to the op.  That with the geekhack.org key logo across the front would be awesome. 
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 07 May 2013, 11:00:05
Binge, PM me with your email address -- I'll send out vectorized artwork to you and Bunnylake tonight when I get home.

Just so people know (who don't know already) the vectorized artwork allows you to scale up the graphic losslessly, so whichever vendor you work with should be able to make the logo the correct size for whatever it is you're doing.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Binge on Tue, 07 May 2013, 11:21:30
E-mail address sent!  Thank you so much hopefully we'll get some mockups done soon.

[attach=1]

Above are the current stats.  Looks like black/darkgray/charcoal (we'll figure it out) with orange as a secondary color.  I will also be inquiring about personalized options and costs!
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: pgeiger on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:15:01
Yep - finally a hoodie I can wear that screams "I am as dorky as you always thought" +1.
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:07:30
/me pokes Binge. Any news?
Title: Re: [IC] Geekhack Hooded Apparel (prev. Letterman Hoodie)
Post by: Binge on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:31:57
Not really SF, no lack of motivation despite the lack-luster interest for this. 

Regardless I guess I'll have to pull my head out of my arse and get to werkin :(