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Title: GH sale thread?
Post by: joey on Tue, 03 July 2018, 06:35:28
What happened to that thread?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 06:38:12
iMav probably nuked it.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Coreda on Tue, 03 July 2018, 06:50:22
There was useful discussion in there (about themes, board software, donations in general), wonder what happened.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 03 July 2018, 06:51:25
(https://media.giphy.com/media/109jUYCgG4MIQU/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: fanpeople on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:05:41
OMG IMAVS PROFILE HAS BEEN REMOVED TOO.
Title: GH sale thread?
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:10:57
OMG IMAVS PROFILE HAS BEEN REMOVED TOO.
Is it April’s Fool??

Do people play prank on Independence Day maybe?

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Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: fanpeople on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:11:49
OMG IMAVS PROFILE HAS BEEN REMOVED TOO.
Is it April’s Fool??

Do people play prank on Independence Day maybe?

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did you look?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:13:06
It’s aliveeeeee!


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Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:21:06
Ah for **** sake.

I was hopeful about Zeal buying, but looks like it's goodnight to Geekhack.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: shadowrealmwarez on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:34:15
Sounds more and more like a money grab to recoup losses.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:35:37
seems like the people who were against a longtime trustworthy vendor from inheriting the site, got their wishes.. no redesigns either! two birds with one stone, good stuff
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:53:58
(https://i.imgur.com/15pFeV8.png)

"i don't feel so good"
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:54:48
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/15pFeV8.png)


"i don't feel so good"

best thing to come out of this **** show
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:56:01
https://deskthority.net/other-news-f47/geekhack-sold-to-zealpc-t19338.html#p417657

Screenshot of said post:

(https://i.imgur.com/paEqjEO.png)

Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:56:29
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(https://i.imgur.com/15pFeV8.png)


"i don't feel so good"

:gottem-3:
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 03 July 2018, 07:59:35
Please give more money to iMav to unlock this post
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: qwack on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:17:19
What the hell just happened to GH.

Perhaps we'll get that feature-rich platform funded & maintained by the community (non-profit model) that was discussed in the original thread after all. Only under a different name.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:40:25
I was told privately certain parties were willing to offer $50K+.....so there's that.

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Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:22:46
I honestly tried, but money seems to be more important than integrity and legacy. It was nice knowing you guys on GH, see you on the next forum.

(https://i.imgur.com/7ssp2Ff.jpg)
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: shadowrealmwarez on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:24:02
I was told privately certain parties were willing to offer $50K+.....so there's that.

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So much for all about the community, sounds like it's all about the Benjamins.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Petch on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:25:35
Let me go grab my popcorn
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:25:51
Please give more money to iMav to unlock this post
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:27:29
That's a real shame imav
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:28:07
I honestly tried, but money seems to be more important than integrity and legacy. It was nice knowing you guys on GH, see you on the next forum.

More
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(https://i.imgur.com/7ssp2Ff.jpg)

**** iMav

thanks for your efforts Zeal.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: joey on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:29:30
wtf zeal offered 30.. fking thousand.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: russthebus27 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:31:09
I honestly tried, but money seems to be more important than integrity and legacy. It was nice knowing you guys on GH, see you on the next forum.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7ssp2Ff.jpg)


we need this **** iMav to be accountable for his scummy and toxic actions.  Zeal was straight with him and iMav just wants to buy a new car.  See you guys on the next forum
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Snappo on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:34:02
I honestly tried, but money seems to be more important than integrity and legacy. It was nice knowing you guys on GH, see you on the next forum.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7ssp2Ff.jpg)



YIKES
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:34:34
Well then  :(
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: shadowrealmwarez on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:35:30
Thanks for the efforts Zeal, time to find a new forum or make a new one entirely.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: SBJ on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:36:05
Thank you Zeal for trying!
****. :(
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: pwade3 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:38:04
I honestly tried, but money seems to be more important than integrity and legacy. It was nice knowing you guys on GH, see you on the next forum.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7ssp2Ff.jpg)


we need this **** iMav to be accountable for his scummy and toxic actions.  [...]

What are you gonna do? Abandon the site that he's selling? lmao
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:40:24
Hope iMav sends some cash to the admins and mods that kept his site all these years he's been afk... What a dbag
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:42:13
Lol nice.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:44:22
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Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Hoobreezy on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:45:05
wew my first post on gh and probably my last
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:53:03
GL to all in international GB's - gonna be even harder to talk to the GB runners with the already seldom communication standards.


Maybe IC/GB should be locked or put on hold

Heyhey. Most of the people who run GBs work hard to keep the channels open...

Some people do more than just running GBs in their life
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:53:37
Please give more money to iMav to unlock this post
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Artemie on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:56:07
Best flip of 2018 thus far.
Cucked the entire community.
Someone give this man a prize.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:57:05
GL to all in international GB's - gonna be even harder to talk to the GB runners with the already seldom communication standards.


Maybe IC/GB should be locked or put on hold

Heyhey. Most of the people who run GBs work hard to keep the channels open...


Was not an insult or comment on that aspect.

As in, yes, I understand, communication has always been a big work-in-progress thing for GBs, but most of them do put in the effort to ensure constant communication...

And I digress. What's this firesale of GH I've been hearing?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:57:23
LOL this quite a big drama to me
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:57:41
GL to all in international GB's - gonna be even harder to talk to the GB runners with the already seldom communication standards.


Maybe IC/GB should be locked or put on hold

Heyhey. Most of the people who run GBs work hard to keep the channels open...


Was not an insult or comment on that aspect.

As in, yes, I understand, communication has always been a big work-in-progress thing for GBs, but most of them do put in the effort to ensure constant communications...

And I digress. What's this firesale of GH I've been hearing?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96404.0
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:59:49
GL to all in international GB's - gonna be even harder to talk to the GB runners with the already seldom communication standards.


Maybe IC/GB should be locked or put on hold

Heyhey. Most of the people who run GBs work hard to keep the channels open...


Was not an insult or comment on that aspect.

As in, yes, I understand, communication has always been a big work-in-progress thing for GBs, but most of them do put in the effort to ensure constant communications...

And I digress. What's this firesale of GH I've been hearing?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96404.0

Ohho. Long read ahead

brb
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: sony on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:00:34
do we go to DT again or will we fragment into even more discords and slacks 🤔
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:03:18
do we go to DT again or will we fragment into even more discords and slacks 🤔
yes
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:07:35
do we go to DT again or will we fragment into even more discords and slacks 🤔

>dt

:jamie:
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:07:48
do we go to DT again or will we fragment into even more discords and slacks 🤔
BTW. DT also had a setback not long ago when it reverted back from a club to a dictatorship. Not enough club members were ready to step up and help running it.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:11:35
well this is sad to say the least
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: AMongoose on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:14:21
see you on the next forum.

I wonder what zeal could mean with that plus posting a single sided screencap of PM's ...
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:15:16
My problem is the following, what about all personal data from PM’s, paypal, addresses, phone, sepa etc....
China won’t give a **** about GDPR, how can we erase all that info ?
I don’t give a flying something about the future I have lost my way a long time ago, but I do care about the past and all my activity here.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:15:43
Wait isnt VericalScope a datamining company? So iMav just sold all of the personal information on this site to a data mining company? Wow he sold himself out and everyone on this forum.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Yeoh on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:15:58
Thankfully there are already a few parties working on new forums (Zeal being one of them, iirc).

Hopefully they are organized quickly, and the community doesnt have too messy of a migration.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:20:54
see you on the next forum.

I wonder what zeal could mean with that plus posting a single sided screencap of PM's ...

I never got a reply back. In fact, after iMav read the PM, he moved the OG thread to recycle bin, locked it, then moved it back. I don't see how that's a single sided ss.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:21:57
My problem is the following, what about all personal data from PM’s, paypal, addresses, phone, sepa etc....
China won’t give a **** about GDPR, how can we erase all that info ?
I don’t give a flying something about the future I have lost my way a long time ago, but I do care about the past and all my activity here.

This sounds absolutely terrible :\
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:22:22
Wait isnt VericalScope a datamining company? So iMav just sold all of the personal information on this site to a data mining company? Wow he sold himself out and everyone on this forum.
exactly my point .... this forum is gold mine, paypal, personal data, you name it !!!
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Petch on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:23:14
My problem is the following, what about all personal data from PM’s, paypal, addresses, phone, sepa etc....
China won’t give a **** about GDPR, how can we erase all that info ?
I don’t give a flying something about the future I have lost my way a long time ago, but I do care about the past and all my activity here.
This is my biggest concern. I wonder if there are grounds to chase the seller of the site for irresponsibly selling our data?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Yeoh on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:25:32
Wow, I just read the PM's...

The deal was complete (twice)...

Scummy af.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:26:50
My problem is the following, what about all personal data from PM’s, paypal, addresses, phone, sepa etc....
China won’t give a **** about GDPR, how can we erase all that info ?
I don’t give a flying something about the future I have lost my way a long time ago, but I do care about the past and all my activity here.
This is my biggest concern. I wonder if there are grounds to chase the seller of the site for irresponsibly selling our data?
In EU we could do that, but in US, I don’t know.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:28:34
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: wodan on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:29:02
ALL HAIL WEBWIT!

I have accepted webwit as my dictator and get along much better with him since I stopped thinking I have a saying in DT/Club matters.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:30:25
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?
Hey that's valuable data. Wouldn't want to impact the sales price of the site since it is a bidding war now and not the original BIN deal.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: shadowrealmwarez on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:31:05
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?

I am sure there are backups and whoever gets the site will get those backups as well and could just restore them or sort through them...unless someone can nuke the site before its truly turned over and nuke the backups.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:31:50
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?
I want to have this option too. I have signed up on this forum accepting the TOS, but with a new owner I’m not OK with this, and according to EU laws all personal info must be deleted... but we are not in EU ...
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:32:16
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?
Hey that's valuable data. Wouldn't want to impact the sales price of the site since it is a bidding war now and not the original BIN deal.

^^
There are probably hundreds of paypal mails and also addresses for shipping and shipping quotes. Those were not meant for advertisment companies.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:34:17
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?
Hey that's valuable data. Wouldn't want to impact the sales price of the site since it is a bidding war now and not the original BIN deal.

^^
There are probably hundreds of paypal mails and also addresses for shipping and shipping quotes. Those were not meant for advertisment companies.
And bank accounts and phone numbers, emails, skype ID’s, slack, you name it ... it’s pure GOLD
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:37:15
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?

I am sure there are backups and whoever gets the site will get those backups as well and could just restore them or sort through them...unless someone can nuke the site before its truly turned over and nuke the backups.

Calling all mods: Please. If you can.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: TheInverseKey on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:38:22
This is a meme not an actual conversation.

(https://i.imgur.com/N4clXaV.png)
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:45:54
Hard to turn down something like that, I don't think that I could.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Petch on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:48:13
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?
I want to have this option too. I have signed up on this forum accepting the TOS, but with a new owner I’m not OK with this, and according to EU laws all personal info must be deleted... but we are not in EU ...
If a company is offering goods or services to the people in the EU (I'd argue that applies here?) then they have to comply.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: shadowrealmwarez on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:50:23
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?
I want to have this option too. I have signed up on this forum accepting the TOS, but with a new owner I’m not OK with this, and according to EU laws all personal info must be deleted... but we are not in EU ...
If the site is operating in the EU (if you're in the EU and can access it, I'd argue that counts) then they have to comply.

Is there a compliance task force that will break down the door of the site owner(s)/operator(s) and/or site datacenter to force it to comply? If not then you're SOL, what are they going to do, issue a fine for the site to the owner/operator and say "Pay this many euro's"?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Petch on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:50:36

Is there a compliance task force that will break down the door of the site owner(s)/operator(s) and/or site datacenter to force it to comply? If not then you're SOL, what are they going to do, issue a fine for the site to the owner/operator and say "Pay this many euro's"?

I'm not an expert but there's probably a reason I got a lot of emails from US based companies a couple of months ago
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:51:39
So who do I have to send a PM so that all data of my account will get deleted including all posts and all PMs on my side and also on side of the recipient?
I want to have this option too. I have signed up on this forum accepting the TOS, but with a new owner I’m not OK with this, and according to EU laws all personal info must be deleted... but we are not in EU ...
If a company is offering goods or services to the people in the EU (I'd argue that counts) then they have to comply.
I will try that regardless. I am an EU citizen, we have GDPR !
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Krelbit on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:53:32
So will the next forum have beanie bag chairs and lemonade or nah
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:00:51
So will the next forum have beanie bag chairs and lemonade or nah

No but it will have blackjack and hookers.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a6/Bender_Rodriguez.png/220px-Bender_Rodriguez.png)
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: shadowrealmwarez on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:04:42

Is there a compliance task force that will break down the door of the site owner(s)/operator(s) and/or site datacenter to force it to comply? If not then you're SOL, what are they going to do, issue a fine for the site to the owner/operator and say "Pay this many euro's"?

I'm not an expert but there's probably a reason I got a lot of emails from US based companies a couple of months ago

Correct a lot of US based companies sent emails to update anyone on its mailing list or had/has an account with them that they've updated their privacy policies and such, however for small, hobby sites such as this, while its nice if they would/do comply I don't see compliance task force with tanks and guns ready to break down doors of site owners and such to make them comply, and even then all they could do is go to the site registrar (and if its privately registered) ask for the info of the site owner so they can issue a fine of some sort maybe? Not really sure, but I don't foresee hobby sites to comply with it, and some US based sites still have no complied with it.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: ygor on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:06:59

So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: superhot on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:11:44
So will the next forum have beanie bag chairs and lemonade or nah

No but it will have blackjack and hookers.

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a6/Bender_Rodriguez.png/220px-Bender_Rodriguez.png)


why not both
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:14:11

Is there a compliance task force that will break down the door of the site owner(s)/operator(s) and/or site datacenter to force it to comply? If not then you're SOL, what are they going to do, issue a fine for the site to the owner/operator and say "Pay this many euro's"?

I'm not an expert but there's probably a reason I got a lot of emails from US based companies a couple of months ago

Correct a lot of US based companies sent emails to update anyone on its mailing list or had/has an account with them that they've updated their privacy policies and such, however for small, hobby sites such as this, while its nice if they would/do comply I don't see compliance task force with tanks and guns ready to break down doors of site owners and such to make them comply, and even then all they could do is go to the site registrar (and if its privately registered) ask for the info of the site owner so they can issue a fine of some sort maybe? Not really sure, but I don't foresee hobby sites to comply with it, and some US based sites still have no complied with it.
Maybe if more EU members stick together and make a group complain it will count ... I will try anyway
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: ygor on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:31:21
The community will rally elsewhere. I hope iMav gets them duckets in quick before them big investors wise up.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:36:48
我欢迎新的中国领主
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Haaaaaandrew on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:42:57
我欢迎新的中国领主

Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Karura on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:47:15
OOF
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:47:52
OOF

Oof indeed. What a **** show.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: sorijealut on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:52:47
Enjoyed my time at GH, was just getting back to the hobby too :(
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:53:07
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Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:54:34
The community will rally elsewhere. I hope iMav gets them duckets in quick before them big investors wise up.
I don’t care if the community will rally elsewhere, I’m sure things will go on without GH. People allready moved to reddid, discord or whatever.
For me what is important is personal data, either is deletd or I get a compensation. I will not let it go away like Ivanivanovici GB’s, GhostOfHarry GB’s and other scams that were just accepted.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Lormania on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:55:13
Oh no! I just got on here basically! Hope we can all find a new home together.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:08:05
Oh no! I just got on here basically! Hope we can all find a new home together.
Just go to reddit or join one of the discord things, those are all the rage and maybe the reason we are where we are, Ripster won. There is also Deskthority.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:21:54
Oh no! I just got on here basically! Hope we can all find a new home together.
Just go to reddit or join one of the discord things, those are all the rage and maybe the reason we are where we are, Ripster won. There is also Deskthority.

Those are absolutely worse options, the best option is to simply start a new forum if need be. It's easy enough to do. DT is cliquey and very vintage-focused, I don't know how much they'd appreciate a permanent influx of GH members. Reddit is reddit, and in no way is a discord or slack a legitimate substitute for a proper forum.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: billnye on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:22:56
This community used to mean so much to me a few years ago. Haven't been too involved recently but I am still really appreciative of all the great people I met through this website. Even if this is the end of geekhack as we know it, the community will live on.

There are plenty of really smart people here and I am confident you guys will come up with a great idea for what comes next.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:28:22
Well, this is a steaming pile of ****. Now what?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:29:14
Oh no. Will my vintage Geekhack caps rise or fall in value.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:29:54
Oh no! I just got on here basically! Hope we can all find a new home together.
Just go to reddit or join one of the discord things, those are all the rage and maybe the reason we are where we are, Ripster won. There is also Deskthority.

Those are absolutely worse options, the best option is to simply start a new forum if need be. It's easy enough to do. DT is cliquey and very vintage-focused, I don't know how much they'd appreciate a permanent influx of GH members. Reddit is reddit, and in no way is a discord or slack a legitimate substitute for a proper forum.
Dude don’t say that... you might end up being called a saltyedgelordfk. Reddit is good, discord is even better.

Joke aside, I would love to see again a community like it was 4-5 years ago.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:31:32
Oh no! I just got on here basically! Hope we can all find a new home together.
Just go to reddit or join one of the discord things, those are all the rage and maybe the reason we are where we are, Ripster won. There is also Deskthority.

Those are absolutely worse options, the best option is to simply start a new forum if need be. It's easy enough to do. DT is cliquey and very vintage-focused, I don't know how much they'd appreciate a permanent influx of GH members. Reddit is reddit, and in no way is a discord or slack a legitimate substitute for a proper forum.
you might end up being called a saltyedgelordfk.

Because you are one.

Anyways, I'd say at this point our best course of action is to see what happens next re: the purchase of geekhack, then plan accordingly.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:31:44
Oh no! I just got on here basically! Hope we can all find a new home together.
Just go to reddit or join one of the discord things, those are all the rage and maybe the reason we are where we are, Ripster won. There is also Deskthority.

Those are absolutely worse options, the best option is to simply start a new forum if need be. It's easy enough to do. DT is cliquey and very vintage-focused, I don't know how much they'd appreciate a permanent influx of GH members. Reddit is reddit, and in no way is a discord or slack a legitimate substitute for a proper forum.
Dude don’t say that... you might end up being called a saltyedgelordfk. Reddit is good, discord is even better.

Joke aside, I would love to see again a community like it was 4-5 years ago.

Dude **** was tight back then. I've made some lasting friendships with people I met randomly around here in my first year or so here and it sucks that new members might never get to experience that

you might end up being called a saltyedgelordfk.

Because you are one.

no u
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:32:12
so do we have any idea who the new ownership is? is the deal even complete? i'd like to hear the new owners introduce themselves and see if anything can be salvaged from this absolute mess before we pack up and move on. there's really still too many photos, too much precious knowledge all over this forum, that starting over from scratch is the absolute last measure i think we should take
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: swangful on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:35:45
(https://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png)
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:41:13
so do we have any idea who the new ownership is? is the deal even complete? i'd like to hear the new owners introduce themselves and see if anything can be salvaged from this absolute mess before we pack up and move on. there's really still too many photos, too much precious knowledge all over this forum, that starting over from scratch is the absolute last measure i think we should take

Don't worry I'm printing out every page to preserve the data physically. Running low on ink on page 45 of Post your clacks but a quick Staples run and I'll be back to it
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: joey on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:44:27
Don't worry I'm printing out every page to preserve the data physically. Running low on ink on page 45 of Post your clacks but a quick Staples run and I'll be back to it
At least you know the important thread to start with.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:48:17
Don't worry I'm printing out every page to preserve the data physically. Running low on ink on page 45 of Post your clacks but a quick Staples run and I'll be back to it
At least you know the important thread to start with.

In 2100 when historians have access to detailed records of historical clack market analytics, then my work will be praised.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: shinz0 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 13:16:49
(https://i.gifer.com/4NwO.gif)

oh boy
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 13:23:57
This community used to mean so much to me a few years ago. Haven't been too involved recently but I am still really appreciative of all the great people I met through this website. Even if this is the end of geekhack as we know it, the community will live on.

There are plenty of really smart people here and I am confident you guys will come up with a great idea for what comes next.
I agree. Even if the site does fail a new one will pop up in short time and take its place.

I'm imagining a lot of people are all going to try to take a stab at starting a replacement site and I hope that doesn't happen because that'll just turn into a mess.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 03 July 2018, 13:31:40
Ooof, owie. Why did I drink that bone hurting juice today of all days?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Coreda on Tue, 03 July 2018, 13:34:46
Wait isnt VericalScope a datamining company? So iMav just sold all of the personal information on this site to a data mining company? Wow he sold himself out and everyone on this forum.

According to the screencap that was for the original offer (which was claimed would be kept confidential), it's unclear who is behind the latest offers. I'm not quite sure VerticalScope does with sites it acquires (https://www.verticalscope.com/about-us/our-history.html). Did see news of a password breach across some sites operated by them though.

I mean, iMav clearly reached a tipping point with the cost of running geekhack and I'm not going to slam him. Without much insight sooner into the maintenance costs or increasing struggle of operating the site I suppose there wasn't much awareness among the userbase to drive ongoing donations. Possibly by finding more affordable hosting as several suggested, making users aware of the difficulties, and offering alternative re-occurring payment programs like Patreon (maybe with some cosmetic perks for users) things could have gone differently earlier.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 03 July 2018, 14:01:14
I'm not quite sure VerticalScope does with sites it acquires (https://www.verticalscope.com/about-us/our-history.html).

Turn them into "vertically integrated roll-ups in high-consumer spending verticals.", obviously
(Exact verbage from their site)
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 03 July 2018, 14:03:44
Oh no! I just got on here basically! Hope we can all find a new home together.
Just go to reddit or join one of the discord things, those are all the rage and maybe the reason we are where we are, Ripster won. There is also Deskthority.

Those are absolutely worse options, the best option is to simply start a new forum if need be. It's easy enough to do. DT is cliquey and very vintage-focused, I don't know how much they'd appreciate a permanent influx of GH members. Reddit is reddit, and in no way is a discord or slack a legitimate substitute for a proper forum.

That's a misconception propagated a lot over time.  There's quite a bit of conversation on more recent boards, and in fact, it's where I built my first custom.  The misconception has made the population that migrate to it focused on vintage, unfortunately.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 14:10:52
Oh no! I just got on here basically! Hope we can all find a new home together.
Just go to reddit or join one of the discord things, those are all the rage and maybe the reason we are where we are, Ripster won. There is also Deskthority.

Those are absolutely worse options, the best option is to simply start a new forum if need be. It's easy enough to do. DT is cliquey and very vintage-focused, I don't know how much they'd appreciate a permanent influx of GH members. Reddit is reddit, and in no way is a discord or slack a legitimate substitute for a proper forum.

That's a misconception propagated a lot over time.  There's quite a bit of conversation on more recent boards, and in fact, it's where I built my first custom.  The misconception has made the population that migrate to it focused on vintage, unfortunately.

I mean maybe it was originally a self-fulfilling prophecy, but I don't know anyone that would argue that it hasn't been a heavily vintage-focused board for years now. Even customs that people make there often draw heavily from vintage influences.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 03 July 2018, 14:20:04
Oh no! I just got on here basically! Hope we can all find a new home together.
Just go to reddit or join one of the discord things, those are all the rage and maybe the reason we are where we are, Ripster won. There is also Deskthority.

Those are absolutely worse options, the best option is to simply start a new forum if need be. It's easy enough to do. DT is cliquey and very vintage-focused, I don't know how much they'd appreciate a permanent influx of GH members. Reddit is reddit, and in no way is a discord or slack a legitimate substitute for a proper forum.

That's a misconception propagated a lot over time.  There's quite a bit of conversation on more recent boards, and in fact, it's where I built my first custom.  The misconception has made the population that migrate to it focused on vintage, unfortunately.

I mean maybe it was originally a self-fulfilling prophecy, but I don't know anyone that would argue that it hasn't been a heavily vintage-focused board for years now. Even customs that people make there often draw heavily from vintage influences.

Heavily focused, but not by design, which is what the statement that they wouldn't appreciate GHers seems to imply.  My custom I made that I was talking about was less than 2 years ago and was a 45% before the JD45 or the Minivan.  The Whitefox came from there, and matt3o's working on a 3d printed version right now.  It's not a singular mind there- it just supports vintage more than other places IMO.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: PotatoTM on Tue, 03 July 2018, 14:46:39
This whole thing has been really unfortunate, I was just starting to get used to it all...
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: wowremy on Tue, 03 July 2018, 14:47:33
Zealhack.org
calling it now
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: dicarlobrotha2 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 14:59:29
I'm iMav, and this is my keyboard forum. I work here with my moderators and my son, ripster55. Everything in here has a large amount of data, and a price of $40,000. One thing I've learned after six years, you never know WHAT chinese marketing company is going to offer to pay for my mortgage.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 03 July 2018, 15:18:28
Welcome to America where everything's for sale to the highest bidder, including your loyalty and privacy.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Remsky on Tue, 03 July 2018, 15:35:33
This whole thing was fishy from the beginning. iMav needed help maintaining the site, yet never told mods the operating costs nor tried to make an announcement stating that he needed help? Then he comes out of left field saying he is selling the site to some company for 10k to pay off 3 mortgages. First, if you can afford 3 mortgages, you are probably making well into 6 figures, which I doubt iMav is making. Second, he was willing to say who the bidders were for GH, yet never tells us who this mysterious company is? Almost as if he never got an offer and pulled the 10k figure outta his ass. Hmmm. He then tells the community he will give the site to them for 10k, then proceeds to start a bidding war and backs out of his "final" prices.

iMav stopped caring for this community years ago, I just wish he would have handed it over to someone else before this all had to happen, but I guess he didnt care enough. On a final note, iMav, if you really can afford 3 mortgages at the same time, 270 usd a month should be chump change to you lmfao.

tl:dr iMav is a lying sack of ****.

Edit: iMav did reveal the first buyer, although later on. Still doesnt help that it is a data centric chinese company, in fact that is worse than a chinese vendor.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: portbaron on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:29:24
Fair enough, so what's the best way to not miss out on GBs and ICs in the future? A mix of reddit and DT?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: M on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:35:59
Fair enough, so what's the best way to not miss out on GBs and ICs in the future? A mix of reddit and DT?

Those and discord servers probably

Although at the moment I'm more worried about GBs that are currently going on
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:52:11
Fair enough, so what's the best way to not miss out on GBs and ICs in the future? A mix of reddit and DT?

Those and discord servers probably

Although at the moment I'm more worried about GBs that are currently going on

Start making sure any gb you're a part of you have avenues of communication with them besides just geekhack. Email, Discord, Slack, Text, something. Not saying geekhack will go away for sure, likely not, but it's probably a good time to secure multiple forms of communication.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: portbaron on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:58:35
All the GBs I've seen (I've been part of over a dozen this year) are actually handled through other sites, GH is just advertising them, so that's probably ok.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 17:04:31
All the GBs I've seen (I've been part of over a dozen this year) are actually handled through other sites, GH is just advertising them, so that's probably ok.
You're only buying keycaps right? Because all keyboard GBs I've been part of were handled though the forum.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: portbaron on Tue, 03 July 2018, 17:10:24
All the GBs I've seen (I've been part of over a dozen this year) are actually handled through other sites, GH is just advertising them, so that's probably ok.
You're only buying keycaps right? Because all keyboard GBs I've been part of were handled though the forum.

Lol, I didn't think about that. Derp. Budget96 (has site), Noxary (has discord), TKC1800 (site), createboard wood, SKB. So I guess I'm in 5 of those lol. But all but the latter have been paid so they have another email to contact us by anyway already. Something to think about the rest of the year though.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Yeoh on Tue, 03 July 2018, 17:28:23
If GeekHack is the only thing reassuring you that gbs in progress will be completed... I dont know what else to say.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 03 July 2018, 17:29:12
Boy, reading the original thread was a real rollercoaster, and it just keeps getting worse.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 03 July 2018, 17:42:04
Don't like to bring politics into this, but iMav is conservative right correct? Could that have played any part in all this considering GH is clearly a mostly left-leaning board?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 July 2018, 17:55:17
You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: swangful on Tue, 03 July 2018, 17:55:24
Don't like to bring politics into this, but iMav is conservative right correct? Could that have played any part in all this considering GH is clearly a mostly left-leaning board?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xYHscQ1Np55i8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 03 July 2018, 17:59:00
So, there was actually very little transparency... I see.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:00:28
So, there was actually very little transparency... I see.

I'm hoping this is sarcasm because iMav has always been the most opaque person on the forum.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Remsky on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:14:45
So, there was actually very little transparency... I see.

I'm hoping this is sarcasm because iMav has always been the most opaque person on the forum.
>Stops posting on his community for years
>Mods are never told operating costs so they could never tell if a situation like this happens.
>Posts thread saying he is selling the community after years of inactivity. Doesn't make an announcement before hand saying he needs help with maintanining the site.
>donation tab and deals are dead/underadvertised.
>makes no other effort to raise funds, people don't even know there is a problem, not even the mods.

Are you really ****ing telling me he is opaque? Is your head on straight? You cant blame the community for a problem they never knew existed, get over yourself.

Edit: are you sure you meant to use opaque there, would totally change what you meant, lol
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Kilgarah on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:20:53
Just to let you know, opaque is the opposite of transparent...
So, there was actually very little transparency... I see.

I'm hoping this is sarcasm because iMav has always been the most opaque person on the forum.
>Stops posting on his community for years
>Mods are never told operating costs so they could never tell if a situation like this happens.
>Posts thread saying he is selling the community after years of inactivity. Doesn't make an announcement before hand saying he needs help with maintanining the site.
>donation tab and deals are dead/underadvertised.
>makes no other effort to raise funds, people don't even know there is a problem, not even the mods.

Are you really ****ing telling me he is opaque? Is your head on straight? You cant blame the community for a problem they never knew existed, get over yourself.

Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Coreda on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:22:22
>Mods are never told operating costs so they could never tell if a situation like this happens.

Are you really ****ing telling me he is opaque? Is your head on straight? You cant blame the community for a problem they never knew existed, get over yourself.

Hmm...

(https://i.imgur.com/Z2qzBZs.png)

Hmm...

(https://i.imgur.com/pfr361c.png)

I will say I hadn't noticed the posts with the figures myself though I had seen that sticky before. My own fault tbh, it's not like it wasn't there for literal years. Though I wasn't aware of the compounding difficulties he was facing financially.

Also opaque = lack of transparency.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:25:23
Holy **** this is depressing  :(
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:29:36
So, there was actually very little transparency... I see.

I'm hoping this is sarcasm because iMav has always been the most opaque person on the forum.

  :))

So, there was actually very little transparency... I see.

I'm hoping this is sarcasm because iMav has always been the most opaque person on the forum.
>Stops posting on his community for years
>Mods are never told operating costs so they could never tell if a situation like this happens.
>Posts thread saying he is selling the community after years of inactivity. Doesn't make an announcement before hand saying he needs help with maintanining the site.
>donation tab and deals are dead/underadvertised.
>makes no other effort to raise funds, people don't even know there is a problem, not even the mods.

Are you really ****ing telling me he is opaque? Is your head on straight? You cant blame the community for a problem they never knew existed, get over yourself.

Edit: are you sure you meant to use opaque there, would totally change what you meant, lol

He meant opaque  :blank:

He knows what he's doing so your personal attacks don't help you
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:30:00
Holy **** this is depressing  :(

Agreed
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:35:11
I meant opaque. The initial post I quoted seemed surprised that there was very little transparency. I was hoping csmertx was being sarcastic because iMav has been distant these last few years, and with the ongoing money issues, has not always been very forthcoming about the operating costs.

I have kept up a monthly donation for a while now, and while I don't want to adopt the holier than thou attitude, if you didn't see the "Geekhack needs your donations" topic, you should have seen the "DEALS" button that has now gone.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: HardcoreDesk on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:42:26
This is why we need Socialism.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:47:45
So, I found out about this whole iMav putting GH up for sale thing about 90 minutes ago from the Deskthority Wiki Twitter bot who said the Geekhack page had been updated.

After reading the majority of the actual selling post, most of the posts in here and other places, I think people are jumping to a lot of conclusions and making a lot of bad impulse decisions and doing what they all think is best for the community without actually having a general consensus or aim in mind.

Making new pages, deleting your profiles, ****ting on iMav, all those things might seem like great actions to take when you've been told that a community that you have made your home, made friends on, is going to be changing. Nobody knows how much it will be changing. Just be patient, see what happens, then make your decisions.

Just don't flee a sinking ship to find you're then stranded on a desert island and the ship isn't actually sinking.

TL;DR - Wait and see. Don't do anything rash you'll regret if GH stays around.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:47:54
I'm not sure what to say... there was transparency... it seems like everything is fine...  :confused:

I posted that when everyone thought Zeal was buying GH. But, it would seem that that ship has sailed.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: lemur on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:48:34
I sure hope that all of this crap doesnt move to discord and reddit.

reddit is terrible with the downvotes hiding useful information that the kids dont agree with..... also, it is basically one endless 'show your keyboard' post..

discord is just stupid and shouldnt be a thing even being considered as some place to flee a dying forum.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: dimo on Tue, 03 July 2018, 18:57:24
You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?

iMav gave no indication he can't afford it. If his rat ass told the community formally a few months ago we would have been fine.

The larger problem is that he really doesn't give a ****. The $35k difference between Zeal's offer and the Chinese is not worth what the community's state is for him.

It's just in his interest to grab 50k, get a new car and disappear from here with the thought that what he left behind re-cooperates into some new forum.

Noisyturtle's point that he's affording 3 separate mortgages is definitely in some indication that 200 a month should be nothing in comparison.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:09:05
You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?

iMav gave no indication he can't afford it. If his rat ass told the community formally a few months ago we would have been fine.

The larger problem is that he really doesn't give a ****. The $35k difference between Zeal's offer and the Chinese is not worth what the community's state is for him.

It's just in his interest to grab 50k, get a new car and disappear from here with the thought that what he left behind re-cooperates into some new forum.

Noisyturtle's point that he's affording 3 separate mortgages is definitely in some indication that 200 a month should be nothing in comparison.

Well as pointed out 9 posts above yours, there was a post in the announcements thread three years ago about the site needing donations.

iMav also said, as is widely known amongst those who have been around a VERY long time, he was very active in the beginning and helped turned this forum from nothing into an actual community.

Like with all of us, as time goes on, you lose interest in certain hobbies, reach your end game, whatever. He reached that point a long time ago I feel but had to have some semblance of connection with the forum as he was paying for the whole thing.

He also said that the money would be used to pay off his personal debts so I feel you are just reading around some of his more personal posts and just looking at figures.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: M on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:10:12
You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?

$35k difference between Zeal's offer and the Chinese is not worth what the community's state is for him.

even less of a difference actually, Zeal offered 30k as a final bid.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:16:13
It is not public knowledge who is buying the site.

You should reserve all judgement until after the sale has been made and the details have been made public.

Going off rumour and what may have been said between people or what you've heard from a guy through another guy on slack via discord is not something to base wild assumptions on.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Petch on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:20:07
Just be patient, see what happens, then make your decisions.


This is the worst thing to do if you're concerned about someone being irresponsible with your personal data
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:25:07
Just be patient, see what happens, then make your decisions.


This is the worst thing to do if you're concerned about someone being irresponsible with your personal data

What personal data do you keep on/have you given to Geekhack?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:30:56
Just be patient, see what happens, then make your decisions.


This is the worst thing to do if you're concerned about someone being irresponsible with your personal data

What personal data do you keep on/have you given to Geekhack?
If you have traded or bought stuff in GH, and have PM people your address, telephone number and PayPal emails, you have given personal info out.

We need people like @Bunnylake, @BroCaps to start a new forum and pull everyone back together!
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: brianjking on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:36:18
You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?


I really hope this is sarcasm.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:39:33
Just be patient, see what happens, then make your decisions.


This is the worst thing to do if you're concerned about someone being irresponsible with your personal data

What personal data do you keep on/have you given to Geekhack?
If you have traded or bought stuff in GH, and have PM people your address, telephone number and PayPal emails, you have given personal info out.

We need people like @Bunnylake, @BroCaps to start a new forum and pull everyone back together!

Can we stop with the sarcasm? :))
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:40:31
If you have traded or bought stuff in GH, and have PM people your address, telephone number and PayPal emails, you have given personal info out.

We need people like @Bunnylake, @BroCaps to start a new forum and pull everyone back together!

So you trust those you sell things to you've never met than a company that's governed by high levels of regulation?

New forums are the last thing we need if GH stays around in any form similar to what it is currently.

The last thing Bunny and Brocaps pushed on the community was Slack, and that almost killed GH without any money involved.

You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?


I really hope this is sarcasm.

It isn't.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: user 18 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:41:43
I just want to clear up some of the uncertainty about the sale of the site.  The new owners have reached out to the mod team, and we've had a productive conversation.  They are not a data mining company or interested in the site for its users' personal data.  Instead they invested in the site out of a desire to preserve the community and nurture the keyboard hobby. 

A formal announcement will be coming tomorrow morning, and everyone will have an opportunity to ask their questions.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:42:09
You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?

I stopped eventually because of reasons, iMav being part of that reason. And honestly I'm not convinced that would have solved this. $300/mo for a site like this, with minimal effort, is not hard to scrape up, many solutions would have worked, many very good for the community. With how iMav left things the last few days I think it was inevitable and beyond what anyone here could have done.

Now it really is just hoping for the best and waiting to see what comes next. There is still room to be positive and hopeful I think.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:45:11
I just want to clear up some of the uncertainty about the sale of the site.  The new owners have reached out to the mod team, and we've had a productive conversation.  They are not a data mining company or interested in the site for its users' personal data.  Instead they invested in the site out of a desire to preserve the community and nurture the keyboard hobby. 

A formal announcement will be coming tomorrow morning, and everyone will have an opportunity to ask their questions.

I'm glad i'm not a sceptic in all aspects of my life.

You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?

I stopped eventually because of reasons, iMav being part of that reason. And honestly I'm not convinced that would have solved this. $300/mo for a site like this, with minimal effort, is not hard to scrape up, many solutions would have worked, many very good for the community. With how iMav left things the last few days I think it was inevitable and beyond what anyone here could have done.

Now it really is just hoping for the best and waiting to see what comes next. There is still room to be positive and hopeful I think.

So with money being the main reason behind his selling GH, you don't think that giving him more money would have prevented him selling? Why is he one of the reasons you stopped donating?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:56:06
If you have traded or bought stuff in GH, and have PM people your address, telephone number and PayPal emails, you have given personal info out.

We need people like @Bunnylake, @BroCaps to start a new forum and pull everyone back together!

So you trust those you sell things to you've never met than a company that's governed by high levels of regulation?

New forums are the last thing we need if GH stays around in any form similar to what it is currently.

The last thing Bunny and Brocaps pushed on the community was Slack, and that almost killed GH without any money involved.

You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?


I really hope this is sarcasm.

It isn't.

I'll admit... I donated $60 for the first year at once, and promptly forgot about it.  With no reminders, that happens.

/me shrugs
Title: GH sale thread?
Post by: dimo on Tue, 03 July 2018, 19:59:40
You know this could have all been avoided if you *******s just kept up with your $5 a month donations, right?

iMav gave no indication he can't afford it. If his rat ass told the community formally a few months ago we would have been fine.

The larger problem is that he really doesn't give a ****. The $35k difference between Zeal's offer and the Chinese is not worth what the community's state is for him.

It's just in his interest to grab 50k, get a new car and disappear from here with the thought that what he left behind re-cooperates into some new forum.

Noisyturtle's point that he's affording 3 separate mortgages is definitely in some indication that 200 a month should be nothing in comparison.

Well as pointed out 9 posts above yours, there was a post in the announcements thread three years ago about the site needing donations.


What the ****? He asked for donations 3 years ago.. that’s even worse, you know how much change this community has gone through in 3 years? with so many new members joining. My point still stands that he should have asked for help RECENTLY



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Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 03 July 2018, 20:01:20
If you have traded or bought stuff in GH, and have PM people your address, telephone number and PayPal emails, you have given personal info out.

We need people like @Bunnylake, @BroCaps to start a new forum and pull everyone back together!

So you trust those you sell things to you've never met than a company that's governed by high levels of regulation?

New forums are the last thing we need if GH stays around in any form similar to what it is currently.

The last thing Bunny and Brocaps pushed on the community was Slack, and that almost killed GH without any money involved.

I don't trust any data mining or ad companies.
But anyway, moot point since @user18 just announced that the companies who bought it is not a data mining company...

But yeah, agreed on Slack almost killing off GH.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 21:02:18
I just want to clear up some of the uncertainty about the sale of the site.  The new owners have reached out to the mod team, and we've had a productive conversation.  They are not a data mining company or interested in the site for its users' personal data.  Instead they invested in the site out of a desire to preserve the community and nurture the keyboard hobby. 

A formal announcement will be coming tomorrow morning, and everyone will have an opportunity to ask their questions.

I don't mean to attack you, but do you really think a company would say "oh yeah we're gonna sell all the **** these suckers have posted in PMs here LOL"?  I highly, highly doubt they are as altruistic as you say when iMav didn't just chill everyone out by saying something like "it's cool guys, we're just selling to X company you guys all know" or whatever.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: user 18 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 21:33:55
I just want to clear up some of the uncertainty about the sale of the site.  The new owners have reached out to the mod team, and we've had a productive conversation.  They are not a data mining company or interested in the site for its users' personal data.  Instead they invested in the site out of a desire to preserve the community and nurture the keyboard hobby. 

A formal announcement will be coming tomorrow morning, and everyone will have an opportunity to ask their questions.

I don't mean to attack you, but do you really think a company would say "oh yeah we're gonna sell all the **** these suckers have posted in PMs here LOL"?  I highly, highly doubt they are as altruistic as you say when iMav didn't just chill everyone out by saying something like "it's cool guys, we're just selling to X company you guys all know" or whatever.

The new owners don't want to be made public until they have their announcement ready tomorrow morning. That was the request to the moderation team, and I presume to iMav as well. If I thought there was a risk of my of data being sold, or anyone else's, I would already have stepped down from the mod team, and cleared as much of my own personal data from the site as I could, because that's not something I want to be a part of. I was ready to do just that as of this morning. The only reason I haven't is because I believe, after having spoken with the new owners, that there's a positive path forward.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 03 July 2018, 21:36:22
I just want to clear up some of the uncertainty about the sale of the site.  The new owners have reached out to the mod team, and we've had a productive conversation.  They are not a data mining company or interested in the site for its users' personal data.  Instead they invested in the site out of a desire to preserve the community and nurture the keyboard hobby. 

A formal announcement will be coming tomorrow morning, and everyone will have an opportunity to ask their questions.

I don't mean to attack you, but do you really think a company would say "oh yeah we're gonna sell all the **** these suckers have posted in PMs here LOL"?  I highly, highly doubt they are as altruistic as you say when iMav didn't just chill everyone out by saying something like "it's cool guys, we're just selling to X company you guys all know" or whatever.

The new owners don't want to be made public until they have their announcement ready tomorrow morning. That was the request to the moderation team, and I presume to iMav as well. If I thought there was a risk of my of data being sold, or anyone else's, I would already have stepped down from the mod team, and cleared as much of my own personal data from the site as I could, because that's not something I want to be a part of. I was ready to do just that as of this morning. The only reason I haven't is because I believe, after having spoken with the new owners, that there's a positive path forward.

Thank you for the clarification.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 21:38:12
I just want to clear up some of the uncertainty about the sale of the site.  The new owners have reached out to the mod team, and we've had a productive conversation.  They are not a data mining company or interested in the site for its users' personal data.  Instead they invested in the site out of a desire to preserve the community and nurture the keyboard hobby. 

A formal announcement will be coming tomorrow morning, and everyone will have an opportunity to ask their questions.

I don't mean to attack you, but do you really think a company would say "oh yeah we're gonna sell all the **** these suckers have posted in PMs here LOL"?  I highly, highly doubt they are as altruistic as you say when iMav didn't just chill everyone out by saying something like "it's cool guys, we're just selling to X company you guys all know" or whatever.

The new owners don't want to be made public until they have their announcement ready tomorrow morning. That was the request to the moderation team, and I presume to iMav as well. If I thought there was a risk of my of data being sold, or anyone else's, I would already have stepped down from the mod team, and cleared as much of my own personal data from the site as I could, because that's not something I want to be a part of. I was ready to do just that as of this morning. The only reason I haven't is because I believe, after having spoken with the new owners, that there's a positive path forward.

Interesting to hear.

Cautiously looking forward to tomorrow.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: gt1989 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 21:38:23
I just want to clear up some of the uncertainty about the sale of the site.  The new owners have reached out to the mod team, and we've had a productive conversation.  They are not a data mining company or interested in the site for its users' personal data.  Instead they invested in the site out of a desire to preserve the community and nurture the keyboard hobby. 

A formal announcement will be coming tomorrow morning, and everyone will have an opportunity to ask their questions.

I don't mean to attack you, but do you really think a company would say "oh yeah we're gonna sell all the **** these suckers have posted in PMs here LOL"?  I highly, highly doubt they are as altruistic as you say when iMav didn't just chill everyone out by saying something like "it's cool guys, we're just selling to X company you guys all know" or whatever.

The new owners don't want to be made public until they have their announcement ready tomorrow morning. That was the request to the moderation team, and I presume to iMav as well. If I thought there was a risk of my of data being sold, or anyone else's, I would already have stepped down from the mod team, and cleared as much of my own personal data from the site as I could, because that's not something I want to be a part of. I was ready to do just that as of this morning. The only reason I haven't is because I believe, after having spoken with the new owners, that there's a positive path forward.
So this means that the deal is finalized, correct? There isn't going to be another fall out, because someone else offered even more money to iMav.

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Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 03 July 2018, 21:41:41
I can understand paying $10K for GH and then hands off and letting the community run it.
But I don't believe that someone or company will pay $50K for GH and then hands off and let the community run it. That's a huge sum and there must be some return of this investment, no? If they wanted to earn ad revenue, yeah, I can buy that as well.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: user 18 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 21:50:03
So this means that the deal is finalized, correct? There isn't going to be another fall out, because someone else offered even more money to iMav.

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To the best of my knowledge, this is a done deal.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:25:31
Now that iMav's out of the picture, can we unlock the original thread so that this discussion can continue in it's original context?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: user 18 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:50:34
Now that iMav's out of the picture, can we unlock the original thread so that this discussion can continue in it's original context?

I'd prefer not to reopen a thread full of so much drama, and I don't see why the discussion can't continue here.

If you like, I can post a link here at the end of that thread, in case anyone's not aware of this one -- but I think it makes it even harder to follow to start there, then here, then back there, and likely to the new owners' announcement thread tomorrow.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:53:11
Now that iMav's out of the picture, can we unlock the original thread so that this discussion can continue in it's original context?

I'd prefer not to reopen a thread full of so much drama, and I don't see why the discussion can't continue here.

If you like, I can post a link here at the end of that thread, in case anyone's not aware of this one -- but I think it makes it even harder to follow to start there, then here, then back there, and likely to the new owners' announcement thread tomorrow.

Just wanted to say Thank you for not being Knee Jerk and just reacting to everything. I think you and TP have both been very sensible about things. Personally I am nervous and excited. I am nervous for the change but excited for what it could mean.
Title: GH sale thread?
Post by: dimo on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:53:43
Now that iMav's out of the picture, can we unlock the original thread so that this discussion can continue in it's original context?

I'd prefer not to reopen a thread full of so much drama, and I don't see why the discussion can't continue here.

If you like, I can post a link here at the end of that thread, in case anyone's not aware of this one -- but I think it makes it even harder to follow to start there, then here, then back there, and likely to the new owners' announcement thread tomorrow.

agreed, just redirect discussion here since it will probably move to a new thread after their announcement tomorrow
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: user 18 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:55:27
Now that iMav's out of the picture, can we unlock the original thread so that this discussion can continue in it's original context?

I'd prefer not to reopen a thread full of so much drama, and I don't see why the discussion can't continue here.

If you like, I can post a link here at the end of that thread, in case anyone's not aware of this one -- but I think it makes it even harder to follow to start there, then here, then back there, and likely to the new owners' announcement thread tomorrow.

agreed, just redirect discussion here since it will probably move to the new thread after their announcement tomorrow

Done!
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:57:44
Should 4th of July now be known as Geekhack Independence day?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:59:58
I wonder what happens now.
I'll wait for the official announcement to see whether or not I should stay, but I wonder what one should do if things start to look grim.
I would rather not migrate to DT myself or endorse it as I imagine it would disrupt the type of community they built and cultivated there.

Geekhack was in quite the special place where we had the cancerous dialogue of reddit mixed in with the kind of knowledge from DT, and I doubt we would fit in either community very well.

Fingers crossed that either the new owners are decent people or that a new site is created in GH's place.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 03 July 2018, 23:43:41
I just want to clear up some of the uncertainty about the sale of the site.  The new owners have reached out to the mod team, and we've had a productive conversation.  They are not a data mining company or interested in the site for its users' personal data.  Instead they invested in the site out of a desire to preserve the community and nurture the keyboard hobby. 

A formal announcement will be coming tomorrow morning, and everyone will have an opportunity to ask their questions.

I don't mean to attack you, but do you really think a company would say "oh yeah we're gonna sell all the **** these suckers have posted in PMs here LOL"?  I highly, highly doubt they are as altruistic as you say when iMav didn't just chill everyone out by saying something like "it's cool guys, we're just selling to X company you guys all know" or whatever.

The new owners don't want to be made public until they have their announcement ready tomorrow morning. That was the request to the moderation team, and I presume to iMav as well. If I thought there was a risk of my of data being sold, or anyone else's, I would already have stepped down from the mod team, and cleared as much of my own personal data from the site as I could, because that's not something I want to be a part of. I was ready to do just that as of this morning. The only reason I haven't is because I believe, after having spoken with the new owners, that there's a positive path forward.

+1

Positive outlook thus far, but obviously there is some trust to be earned (inherent to any big change like this). I hope we can all hold on to our collective butts and wait to see how this all shakes out.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 03 July 2018, 23:57:23
I just want to clear up some of the uncertainty about the sale of the site.  The new owners have reached out to the mod team, and we've had a productive conversation.  They are not a data mining company or interested in the site for its users' personal data.  Instead they invested in the site out of a desire to preserve the community and nurture the keyboard hobby. 

A formal announcement will be coming tomorrow morning, and everyone will have an opportunity to ask their questions.

I don't mean to attack you, but do you really think a company would say "oh yeah we're gonna sell all the **** these suckers have posted in PMs here LOL"?  I highly, highly doubt they are as altruistic as you say when iMav didn't just chill everyone out by saying something like "it's cool guys, we're just selling to X company you guys all know" or whatever.

The new owners don't want to be made public until they have their announcement ready tomorrow morning. That was the request to the moderation team, and I presume to iMav as well. If I thought there was a risk of my of data being sold, or anyone else's, I would already have stepped down from the mod team, and cleared as much of my own personal data from the site as I could, because that's not something I want to be a part of. I was ready to do just that as of this morning. The only reason I haven't is because I believe, after having spoken with the new owners, that there's a positive path forward.

+1

Positive outlook thus far, but obviously there is some trust to be earned (inherent to any big change like this). I hope we can all hold on to our collective butts and wait to see how this all shakes out.  :thumb:

Pls hoff. If you clench your butt and it all "shakes out", that's a very bad thing. A very bad thing  :-[
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Glod on Wed, 04 July 2018, 00:06:46
Privately hosted message board based communities are a nightmare for disclosure and data privacy. Communities like geekhack are an anachronism. The fact that someone actually "owns" a community shows just how naive everyone has been; not just at geekhack but every message board community you participate in.  Even if the new owners are champions of geekhack (which I am crossing my fingers for), it doesn't change the fact that someone "owns" all of the collaboration, troubleshooting, and hard work over the last decade and all of our private messages. I honestly don't know what the solution is but right now geekhack's alternatives do not appeal to me, never have, and from the looks of it i am not the only one.

I regret every dumb thing I've said here. This really bums me out.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: romevi on Wed, 04 July 2018, 00:09:06
Where are people getting this info that iMav sold gh already?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 00:39:14
Where are people getting this info that iMav sold gh already?
Probably mod team telling people
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 04 July 2018, 01:19:48
How about an official place where I can read info so that I would not have to chase around and get piecemeal and inaccurate info?

I deleted my personal messages because I did not want addresses among them to fall into the hands of a datamining company. Did I need to do that or not? Will the buyer receive a backup of my personal messages to rummage through?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 04 July 2018, 01:34:56
official announcement is tomorrow..
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: dimo on Wed, 04 July 2018, 02:03:51
Everyone shut the **** up until the announcement tomorrow. Stop spurring stuff up based off your own ****ty detective work.

And no, there’s no point to deleting your pm’s by hand. Backups are everywhere.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 04 July 2018, 03:25:40
Mirrors?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 04 July 2018, 04:02:13
waiting for official announcement
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: ramnes on Wed, 04 July 2018, 08:36:22
:thinking:
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Petch on Wed, 04 July 2018, 08:46:34
Is it morning yet
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 04 July 2018, 08:56:41
You can expect something up around Pacific Standard Time mid-late morning.  Around 3 more hours.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 July 2018, 09:37:58
i've largely stayed out of this but clearly y'all don't know imav that well if you're surprised by this at all

and i still maintain that i'm gonna quit if anything too ****y happens

i'll make my own forum with blackjack and hookers
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 04 July 2018, 09:48:38
and i still maintain that i'm gonna quit if anything too ****y happens
will miss you if you go. you can be way too opinionated and too much of a know it all sometimes, but you're alright in my book lad.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 04 July 2018, 09:49:48
i've largely stayed out of this but clearly y'all don't know imav that well if you're surprised by this at all

and i still maintain that i'm gonna quit if anything too ****y happens

i'll make my own forum with blackjack and hookers

need url for blackjack and hooker forum please.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:14:20
and i still maintain that i'm gonna quit if anything too ****y happens
will miss you if you go. you can be way too opinionated and too much of a know it all sometimes, but you're alright in my book lad.

thanks

ill be around elsewhere

but who's gonna quote pics and type "nice" if i leave?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:14:36
i've largely stayed out of this but clearly y'all don't know imav that well if you're surprised by this at all

and i still maintain that i'm gonna quit if anything too ****y happens

i'll make my own forum with blackjack and hookers

need url for blackjack and hooker forum please.

we'll see
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: rknize on Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:18:44
+1 to what the mods have said.  Cautious optimism is warranted, at this point.  Despite how this event has been handled to date, that is not on the new site owner.  It all happened very fast.  It will, however, be on them to earn our trust over time.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:02:49
Announcement is live: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96454
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: dimo on Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:29:30
Announcement is live: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96454

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: superhot on Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:54:55
Announcement is live: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96454

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 04 July 2018, 13:04:21
Did anyone send Ripster a pm on reddit? he'd finally be able to overlord
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 04 July 2018, 13:37:34
+1 for posting this thread in Off Topic
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Gettys on Wed, 04 July 2018, 14:55:46
Oh...merp
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 04 July 2018, 15:43:30
I suppose we'll see what comes of it in the months to follow.

For me, geekhack is all about the community.  The makers.  The drama.  The asshats.  The givers.  It's all here in perfect proportions.  (Probably need to give a shout out to moderators here too.  The true unsung heroes who keep it all in balance).

I honestly think a lot of what has kept geekhack alive and well is the wealth of information and how well it is indexed on this website and on Google.  This old style of paginated posts might seem outdated to newcomers, but it is certainly search engine friendly.

Hope to god we don't see some javascript heavy site with progressively loading comment chains that are nearly impossible to edit on mobile.

What will the website geekhack.org will become in the future?  I'm trying to wrap my head around why our community has thrived and continued to grow on an older platform.  Yes, Massdrop has helped push forward by bringing more people into the keyboard community.  So has reddit. But this website is the heart of it all. It's our rallying spot.  All I ask is that if you kids decide to pack up camp, please don't sneak off without telling us where you are headed :)
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: digi on Thu, 05 July 2018, 16:09:54
I thought auctions were against the rules?! :)

I can offer 1 Beast Cherry MX switch-tool and some vintage blacks for complete transfer of ownership. My lawyers are ready with the paperwork.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Sonikbotnik on Thu, 05 July 2018, 20:06:33
Privately hosted message board based communities are a nightmare for disclosure and data privacy. Communities like geekhack are an anachronism. The fact that someone actually "owns" a community shows just how naive everyone has been; not just at geekhack but every message board community you participate in.  Even if the new owners are champions of geekhack (which I am crossing my fingers for), it doesn't change the fact that someone "owns" all of the collaboration, troubleshooting, and hard work over the last decade and all of our private messages. I honestly don't know what the solution is but right now geekhack's alternatives do not appeal to me, never have, and from the looks of it i am not the only one.

Wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me after all this time, this whole thing has been owned by one man, and no one saw this coming?
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 05 July 2018, 20:08:08
Privately hosted message board based communities are a nightmare for disclosure and data privacy. Communities like geekhack are an anachronism. The fact that someone actually "owns" a community shows just how naive everyone has been; not just at geekhack but every message board community you participate in.  Even if the new owners are champions of geekhack (which I am crossing my fingers for), it doesn't change the fact that someone "owns" all of the collaboration, troubleshooting, and hard work over the last decade and all of our private messages. I honestly don't know what the solution is but right now geekhack's alternatives do not appeal to me, never have, and from the looks of it i am not the only one.

Wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me after all this time, this whole thing has been owned by one man, and no one saw this coming?

those of us who have been here a while saw the writing on the wall a long time ago
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 05 July 2018, 20:21:15

For me, geekhack is all about the community.  The makers.  The drama.  The asshats.  The givers.  It's all here in perfect proportions. 


For Tp4, Geekhack is all about the Super Attractive Geeky Females, who has or will one day Post fotos and possibly PM Tp4 some digits. !!


(https://i.imgur.com/RI7e6uT.jpg)
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 05 July 2018, 21:34:24
Privately hosted message board based communities are a nightmare for disclosure and data privacy. Communities like geekhack are an anachronism. The fact that someone actually "owns" a community shows just how naive everyone has been; not just at geekhack but every message board community you participate in.  Even if the new owners are champions of geekhack (which I am crossing my fingers for), it doesn't change the fact that someone "owns" all of the collaboration, troubleshooting, and hard work over the last decade and all of our private messages. I honestly don't know what the solution is but right now geekhack's alternatives do not appeal to me, never have, and from the looks of it i am not the only one.

Wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me after all this time, this whole thing has been owned by one man, and no one saw this coming?

those of us who have been here a while saw the writing on the wall a long time ago

I always knew it might be a possibility, but I never thought it would go down the way it did.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 13 September 2018, 18:17:06
As many here, I am uneasy about selling GH to a corporation (or to a national entity).

What about making GH a club with annual dues? Has this been considered and possibly rejected?



Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 13 September 2018, 18:19:04
As many here, I am uneasy about selling GH to a corporation (or to a national entity).

What about making GH a club with annual dues? Has this been considered and possibly rejected?

GH already sold
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 13 September 2018, 18:22:52
 :confused: now I understand
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 13 September 2018, 20:37:12
As many here, I am uneasy about selling GH to a corporation (or to a national entity).

What about making GH a club with annual dues? Has this been considered and possibly rejected?

Might want to take a look at this thread:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96513.0
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 14 September 2018, 05:35:06
As many here, I am uneasy about selling GH to a corporation (or to a national entity).

What about making GH a club with annual dues? Has this been considered and possibly rejected?

GH already sold

It was also already considered for that kind of thing to happen. People were asked for donations, people started to donate monthly then stopped. Asking nicely for money didn't work and asking everyone to pay money was met with lots of disagreement.

I've voiced my opinion about all the above before, but my donations have continued after the sale to Massdrop, completely unintentionally on my part as I thought they would be cancelled when the sale was finalised, so I don't think they were taken seriously towards the end.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 14 September 2018, 06:08:31
As many here, I am uneasy about selling GH to a corporation (or to a national entity).

What about making GH a club with annual dues? Has this been considered and possibly rejected?

GH already sold

It was also already considered for that kind of thing to happen. People were asked for donations, people started to donate monthly then stopped. Asking nicely for money didn't work and asking everyone to pay money was met with lots of disagreement.

I've voiced my opinion about all the above before, but my donations have continued after the sale to Massdrop, completely unintentionally on my part as I thought they would be cancelled when the sale was finalised, so I don't think they were taken seriously towards the end.

Yes it was and I remember all that happening.

I'm not surprised they were not cancelled though. That's pretty ****ty they weren't cancelled by iMav prior to the sale finalizing.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 14 September 2018, 10:28:21
As many here, I am uneasy about selling GH to a corporation (or to a national entity).

What about making GH a club with annual dues? Has this been considered and possibly rejected?

GH already sold

It was also already considered for that kind of thing to happen. People were asked for donations, people started to donate monthly then stopped. Asking nicely for money didn't work and asking everyone to pay money was met with lots of disagreement.

I've voiced my opinion about all the above before, but my donations have continued after the sale to Massdrop, completely unintentionally on my part as I thought they would be cancelled when the sale was finalised, so I don't think they were taken seriously towards the end.

Wait a minute... so iMav has still been getting your donations?  That's messed up!
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: iMav on Sat, 06 April 2019, 15:32:50
I simply wanted to "clear the air" regarding the GH sale. 

I never wanted GH to be a money-making endeavor.  It was simply a "labor of love" for me...  However... Last year, I moved from WI to ND to be close to family (my mother-in-law is recently widowed and my mom is close to death)...I had two rentals that would have covered my two properties in WI. Given that security, I bought a home in ND.  Afterwards, BOTH fell through.  So I had to deal with THREE mortgages for over 8 months when I only planned for one.  I have liquidated EVERYTHING.  We managed to sell ONE property (and needed to invest over $30k into that property to get it ready for sale)...  We are still dealing with two mortgages.  It pains me to admit that I made, last year, $190k.  MANY folks have said, "BS.  He would have had to make over $100k to cover 2 mortgages."

I am in the process of filing bankruptcy.  Embarassing and depressing... but true. 
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: the_ambyguous on Sun, 07 April 2019, 00:05:22
I simply wanted to "clear the air" regarding the GH sale. 

I never wanted GH to be a money-making endeavor.  It was simply a "labor of love" for me...  However... Last year, I moved from WI to ND to be close to family (my mother-in-law is recently widowed and my mom is close to death)...I had two rentals that would have covered my two properties in WI. Given that security, I bought a home in ND.  Afterwards, BOTH fell through.  So I had to deal with THREE mortgages for over 8 months when I only planned for one.  I have liquidated EVERYTHING.  We managed to sell ONE property (and needed to invest over $30k into that property to get it ready for sale)...  We are still dealing with two mortgages.  It pains me to admit that I made, last year, $190k.  MANY folks have said, "BS.  He would have had to make over $100k to cover 2 mortgages."

I am in the process of filing bankruptcy.  Embarassing and depressing... but true.

Hey, I'm in talks with a bankruptcy lawyer / making payments until I can afford to file for the small amount of 10k, and I'm only 25. Theres no shame in falling, you've just gotta make sure you brush it off and get back up again. Financial troubles are the worst kind, but it can and does happen to the best of us. Good luck on getting through this, and godspeed to recovery.
Title: Re: GH sale thread?
Post by: romevi on Wed, 08 May 2019, 10:04:19
I simply wanted to "clear the air" regarding the GH sale. 

I never wanted GH to be a money-making endeavor.  It was simply a "labor of love" for me...  However... Last year, I moved from WI to ND to be close to family (my mother-in-law is recently widowed and my mom is close to death)...I had two rentals that would have covered my two properties in WI. Given that security, I bought a home in ND.  Afterwards, BOTH fell through.  So I had to deal with THREE mortgages for over 8 months when I only planned for one.  I have liquidated EVERYTHING.  We managed to sell ONE property (and needed to invest over $30k into that property to get it ready for sale)...  We are still dealing with two mortgages.  It pains me to admit that I made, last year, $190k.  MANY folks have said, "BS.  He would have had to make over $100k to cover 2 mortgages."

I am in the process of filing bankruptcy.  Embarassing and depressing... but true.


 :'(