Looks promising
If anyone wants a render of GMK Serika on a pink Alice keyboard, go ahead and ask Puddsy.
No micons and no penrose triangle :(
I'm just here to watch the /r/mm inflation crash.
Hi there, please consider using the correct sublegends on the 0)をわ and -_ほー keys. They should look like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/m0ASO0z.png) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114733308117053/gmk_js_kit_01_base.jpg)
There are some tweaks that I want GMK to do for GMK Serika and future Latin + Hiragana keycap sets, I don't want to go into lots of details but here is what I'd like to do:
1. Fix the num row to make it consistent with the rest of the sets: the numbers and symbols must have the exact same size and position as its Latin counter part.
2. Actually using the Cherry legends, which is very noticeable with ~, some of the alphas (Z, X, O...), other punctuation marks such comma, dot, <, >, ? and significantly the brackets and braces. This is something that for the first round or Striker wasn't able to fix and I'd really like to change for this round.
A side by side comparison makes those issues more noticeable:Show Image(https://zambumon.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/verne_serika_021.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ybUSee2.png)
As you have pointed out, some of the renders (the ones with Sar) address your を concern. This is because, with the launch of Sar, I have been migrating all my renders from one engine to another as well as remaking all the assets and tweaking legends to be more accurate to what they really should be. I'll most likely update the renders and add ー later this week.
Always love when new designers enter the hobby and create great stuff :thumb: wishing you the best with this project! I'll be picking up at least one set, that's for sure.
No micons and no penrose triangle :(
- I don't want to include any alternate modifiers kits and instead focus on offering more layout support for the two core kits and the extension kits. Having those alternate modifiers would end up with partial layout support which is something I actively want to avoid.
- I wasn't happy with how the prior novelties looked when installed on a keyboard and when I made MT3 Serika I decided to update them not only to make them more proportional to the rest of the modifiers but to match my current logo and I'm really happy with how they look now.
2. Really no option for mod-colored tilde and pipe at all?
Exciting to hear about the planned changes to make all the legends consistent. This always bothered me on R1. Now, you are really making me think to get the second iteration as well. Which makes me come to my issues with that:
1. As much as I prefer the clean look of numpads without sublegends, next to the busy alphas of the Hiragana Core it looks out of place. Have you thought about offering numpad sublegends in the Hiragana Core, while keeping the clean look in the Latin Core?
2. Really no option for mod-colored tilde and pipe at all?
3. I am always a fan of big base kits and liked the R1 base better for that reason. But this is just how times have changed, I guess. At least the removed stuff (1.5u Codes, stepped Ctrl, additional Shifts, additional nav cluster rows) is still available in the expansion kit.
On one hand I want Zambumon to re-run old classics.
On the other hand I want Zambumon to create new classics.
Looking great! Id also like to say GMK Striker R2 PLEASE. Thanks!
1. Fix the num row to make it consistent with the rest of the sets: the numbers and symbols must have the exact same size and position as its Latin counter part.
2. Actually using the Cherry legends, which is very noticeable with ~, some of the alphas (Z, X, O...), other punctuation marks such comma, dot, <, >, ? and significantly the brackets and braces. This is something that for the first round or Striker wasn't able to fix and I'd really like to change for this round.
This design looks really cool.
I think you have included incorrect ISO keys, however. The row 4 "\ |" is included... and then duplicated in row 3 to fill the spot next to the enter key. This should be "# ~". You have included a "#~" ley in the international set - but I'm not planning on buying an extra international set just to fill in the single row 3 key that's missing!
I hope you fix this, very interested in the group buy!
Looking great! Id also like to say GMK Striker R2 PLEASE. Thanks!
No.
This is not the place. This is the GMK Serika 2 thread.
DeskmatsOn what Vendor will the Deskmats be sold (Again ILUMKB?) and is there a price range for them too?
SerikaShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/BGAY3WW.png)
Hexagon DarkShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/gR6OYS2.png)
Hexagon LightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/mxLyqRQ.png)
Hey where is the oceanaographer support? It seems like a pretty cool upcoming project so I was wondering the lack of oceanographer keys in the fourties kit.
Real talk Zamb, are you ever going to get over the 1.75 backspace ban or are you going to alienate whole groups of enthusiasts over a grudge forever?
Like should I just see a Zamb set and no that it won’t have compat for my boards ever and move on? Or will you ever be willing to add in support and stop alienating people for no reason?
GH censorship at its finest
GH censorship at its finest
Mike,
I have answered you always in a civil way here, and in my previous ICs, and I have always explained why I'm no longer supporting their board and you are trying to portrait me as the bad guy here. I don't have any hate for them, just disappointment.
By supporting the Minivan I'm stating that it is OK to support a company that doesn't care and wants to screw over community members.
This is not the first time we've had this conversation, this is not the first time you've used the "calling the mods" card when I've never done that, and this is not the first time I've declined and given you my point of view of this situation.
Since I'm sure it won't be the last and, if it wasn't clear with my previous responses: I'm going to kindly ask you to not suggest this layout or any other made by that company on any of my future ICs. If you have any other suggestions for any other boards, I'll listen to them.
Source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95882.msg2695467#msg2695467
I'm stating that it is OK to support a company that doesn't care and wants to screw over community members.
wouldnt be a zambumon ic without the minivan simps coming out of the woodworks
GH censorship at its finest
Mike,
I have answered you always in a civil way here, and in my previous ICs, and I have always explained why I'm no longer supporting their board and you are trying to portrait me as the bad guy here. I don't have any hate for them, just disappointment.
By supporting the Minivan I'm stating that it is OK to support a company that doesn't care and wants to screw over community members.
This is not the first time we've had this conversation, this is not the first time you've used the "calling the mods" card when I've never done that, and this is not the first time I've declined and given you my point of view of this situation.
Since I'm sure it won't be the last and, if it wasn't clear with my previous responses: I'm going to kindly ask you to not suggest this layout or any other made by that company on any of my future ICs. If you have any other suggestions for any other boards, I'll listen to them.
Source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95882.msg2695467#msg2695467
Hedgey,
Given the post replies you have been making over the years on GH (most of which have been deleted by moderation) and other platforms, I'd rather not support your projects either. Your comments have only reinforced my decision of not including that specific key on any of my sets.
ReservedNo.
ReservedNo.
Not this one.
ReservedNo.
Not this one.
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> hey, how could we have him reconsider adding support for certain 40% layouts?
> we could reach out to him, be friendly and reasonable and see if maybe we can find some common ground again
> nah, let's just **** in his threads and tell him how awesome we are and what a entitled ****head he is, that'll sway his mind for sure
I really have to applaud the effort some people put into making themselves unlikeable. Personally I actually reconsidered my own stance on this subject not too long ago, but after seeing how some individuals open the conversation, I quickly dismissed that thought.
> hey, how could we have him reconsider adding support for certain 40% layouts?
> we could reach out to him, be friendly and reasonable and see if maybe we can find some common ground again
> nah, let's just **** in his threads and tell him how awesome we are and what a entitled ****head he is, that'll sway his mind for sure
I really have to applaud the effort some people put into making themselves unlikeable. Personally I actually reconsidered my own stance on this subject not too long ago, but after seeing how some individuals open the conversation, I quickly dismissed that thought.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GfcALo6.png)
Damn it's too bad nobody ever attempted to reached out peacefully huh
Evan was straight up ignored by the person who started this protest, and continued to be throughout efforts shown with apologies and open inboxes.
Eventually people who own these layouts feel ignored and get to a tipping point, since everything that you have suggested that should be done has, and been tossed aside.
It's absolutely shameful how long this grudge can go on for, especially when a side has grown up from it.
But hey, I can only imagine this will be ignored as well, and designers can push to claim that the people clamoring for one ****ing keycap are all just a bunch of trolls. But I really hope not.
> hey, how could we have him reconsider adding support for certain 40% layouts?
> we could reach out to him, be friendly and reasonable and see if maybe we can find some common ground again
> nah, let's just **** in his threads and tell him how awesome we are and what a entitled ****head he is, that'll sway his mind for sure
I really have to applaud the effort some people put into making themselves unlikeable. Personally I actually reconsidered my own stance on this subject not too long ago, but after seeing how some individuals open the conversation, I quickly dismissed that thought.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GfcALo6.png)
Damn it's too bad nobody ever attempted to reached out peacefully huh
Evan was straight up ignored by the person who started this protest, and continued to be throughout efforts shown with apologies and open inboxes.
Eventually people who own these layouts feel ignored and get to a tipping point, since everything that you have suggested that should be done has, and been tossed aside.
It's absolutely shameful how long this grudge can go on for, especially when a side has grown up from it.
But hey, I can only imagine this will be ignored as well, and designers can push to claim that the people clamoring for one ****ing keycap are all just a bunch of trolls. But I really hope not.
Yes, you found the post that made me reconsider my stance as I mentioned. But when a new IC thread is being moderated a few days in, I'm not sure the claim 'a side has grown up' can be made.
Yes, you found the post that made me reconsider my stance as I mentioned. But when a new IC thread is being moderated a few days in, I'm not sure the claim 'a side has grown up' can be made.
And Olivia and I hashed out issues with her previous sets so I'm good with her and she knows that.
And Olivia and I hashed out issues with her previous sets so I'm good with her and she knows that.
You callled Olivia the C-word in a public discord and you only apologized when you were called out by Mike from Novel Keys when he posted the screengrab.
Maybe this explains why keyset designers might still be a little hostile towards you and any comments you make on their interest checks.
Just saying.
And Olivia and I hashed out issues with her previous sets so I'm good with her and she knows that.
You callled Olivia the C-word in a public discord and you only apologized when you were called out by Mike from Novel Keys when he posted the screengrab.
Maybe this explains why keyset designers might still be a little hostile towards you and any comments you make on their interest checks.
Just saying.
Actually thanks for bringing that up, Wilba. It reminds me of how much drama others are looking for. Let's take a step back shall we?
1. Yes, I posted that in a discord, in an OBSCURE VOICE CHANNEL, not in a main channel like #gen-chat
2. Someone, was obviously searching for my name in the Discord Channel looking for me to "trip up to use it against me."
3. That person found where I said it, screenshotted it, and then shared it with the express intent of stirring up drama causing an issue.
4. Mike posted that on Reddit where I found out that someone had screenshot it and shared it around. Naturally I thought it was Mike that did it and I PM'd him about it. He shared that someone else was spreading it around.
5. Mike and I had a very nice chat after that and we have no issues.
6. Then I reached out to Olivia and apologized. She responded back and we discussed like adults with apologies and a resolution.
I have not been "nasty" in any regards since last year in the Olivia R2 thread. (In which surprise surprise, Zamb was involved in and her keyset compatibility took a step backwards....) So while yes, I slipped up last year and said something that shouldn't have been typed out, I apologized and owned up for it because I'm not a child.
In fact, most of this hobby has people who are so caught up on "status" and "fame" it's turned most people into drama queens. I don't care if you don't like me. And as I stated I've been pretty cordial to nearly everyone I've met and talked to in this hobby. However at some point it boils over for everyone. You tend to ride on a high horse as if you're perfect, but we all know, no one actually is.
So I'm not sure what your intent on bringing up something from over a year ago was in this thread, but I hope you know that you're going to slip up at one point too, and when it happens, know that I won't be the one to remind you of it at a later date because that's not how I operate.
And Olivia and I hashed out issues with her previous sets so I'm good with her and she knows that.
You callled Olivia the C-word in a public discord and you only apologized when you were called out by Mike from Novel Keys when he posted the screengrab.
Maybe this explains why keyset designers might still be a little hostile towards you and any comments you make on their interest checks.
Just saying.
Actually thanks for bringing that up, Wilba. It reminds me of how much drama others are looking for. Let's take a step back shall we?
1. Yes, I posted that in a discord, in an OBSCURE VOICE CHANNEL, not in a main channel like #gen-chat
2. Someone, was obviously searching for my name in the Discord Channel looking for me to "trip up to use it against me."
3. That person found where I said it, screenshotted it, and then shared it with the express intent of stirring up drama causing an issue.
4. Mike posted that on Reddit where I found out that someone had screenshot it and shared it around. Naturally I thought it was Mike that did it and I PM'd him about it. He shared that someone else was spreading it around.
5. Mike and I had a very nice chat after that and we have no issues.
6. Then I reached out to Olivia and apologized. She responded back and we discussed like adults with apologies and a resolution.
I have not been "nasty" in any regards since last year in the Olivia R2 thread. (In which surprise surprise, Zamb was involved in and her keyset compatibility took a step backwards....) So while yes, I slipped up last year and said something that shouldn't have been typed out, I apologized and owned up for it because I'm not a child.
In fact, most of this hobby has people who are so caught up on "status" and "fame" it's turned most people into drama queens. I don't care if you don't like me. And as I stated I've been pretty cordial to nearly everyone I've met and talked to in this hobby. However at some point it boils over for everyone. You tend to ride on a high horse as if you're perfect, but we all know, no one actually is.
So I'm not sure what your intent on bringing up something from over a year ago was in this thread, but I hope you know that you're going to slip up at one point too, and when it happens, know that I won't be the one to remind you of it at a later date because that's not how I operate.
You brought up being good with Olivia, not me, as if you think her accepting your apology means everyone else is made good, and it's just Zambumon being unreasonably hostile.
You frame this as Zambumon being petty, spiteful, etc. instead of just accepting it's his keyset design, he can do what he wants and you can vote with your wallet like everyone else.
You're the one (or some other 40% user) who brings up this "boycott" every time, so please don't lecture me about bringing up old drama.
TBH I don't know why I bother writing anything at all, you don't care what I have to say, as in your mind, I'm lumped in with Zambumon and the other "boycotters", and the thread gets cleaned up anyway and all these words will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
I should have been cancelled a long time ago, I'm just more careful, I guess, but thanks for the advice.
And Olivia and I hashed out issues with her previous sets so I'm good with her and she knows that.
You callled Olivia the C-word in a public discord and you only apologized when you were called out by Mike from Novel Keys when he posted the screengrab.
Maybe this explains why keyset designers might still be a little hostile towards you and any comments you make on their interest checks.
Just saying.
Actually thanks for bringing that up, Wilba. It reminds me of how much drama others are looking for. Let's take a step back shall we?
1. Yes, I posted that in a discord, in an OBSCURE VOICE CHANNEL, not in a main channel like #gen-chat
2. Someone, was obviously searching for my name in the Discord Channel looking for me to "trip up to use it against me."
3. That person found where I said it, screenshotted it, and then shared it with the express intent of stirring up drama causing an issue.
4. Mike posted that on Reddit where I found out that someone had screenshot it and shared it around. Naturally I thought it was Mike that did it and I PM'd him about it. He shared that someone else was spreading it around.
5. Mike and I had a very nice chat after that and we have no issues.
6. Then I reached out to Olivia and apologized. She responded back and we discussed like adults with apologies and a resolution.
I have not been "nasty" in any regards since last year in the Olivia R2 thread. (In which surprise surprise, Zamb was involved in and her keyset compatibility took a step backwards....) So while yes, I slipped up last year and said something that shouldn't have been typed out, I apologized and owned up for it because I'm not a child.
In fact, most of this hobby has people who are so caught up on "status" and "fame" it's turned most people into drama queens. I don't care if you don't like me. And as I stated I've been pretty cordial to nearly everyone I've met and talked to in this hobby. However at some point it boils over for everyone. You tend to ride on a high horse as if you're perfect, but we all know, no one actually is.
So I'm not sure what your intent on bringing up something from over a year ago was in this thread, but I hope you know that you're going to slip up at one point too, and when it happens, know that I won't be the one to remind you of it at a later date because that's not how I operate.
You brought up being good with Olivia, not me, as if you think her accepting your apology means everyone else is made good, and it's just Zambumon being unreasonably hostile.
You frame this as Zambumon being petty, spiteful, etc. instead of just accepting it's his keyset design, he can do what he wants and you can vote with your wallet like everyone else.
You're the one (or some other 40% user) who brings up this "boycott" every time, so please don't lecture me about bringing up old drama.
TBH I don't know why I bother writing anything at all, you don't care what I have to say, as in your mind, I'm lumped in with Zambumon and the other "boycotters", and the thread gets cleaned up anyway and all these words will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
I should have been cancelled a long time ago, I'm just more careful, I guess, but thanks for the advice.
hey wilba... go **** yourself
TBH I don't know why I bother writing anything at all, you don't care what I have to say, as in your mind, I'm lumped in with Zambumon and the other "boycotters", and the thread gets cleaned up anyway and all these words will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
I should have been cancelled a long time ago, I'm just more careful, I guess, but thanks for the advice.
And Olivia and I hashed out issues with her previous sets so I'm good with her and she knows that.
You callled Olivia the C-word in a public discord and you only apologized when you were called out by Mike from Novel Keys when he posted the screengrab.
Maybe this explains why keyset designers might still be a little hostile towards you and any comments you make on their interest checks.
Just saying.
Actually thanks for bringing that up, Wilba. It reminds me of how much drama others are looking for. Let's take a step back shall we?
1. Yes, I posted that in a discord, in an OBSCURE VOICE CHANNEL, not in a main channel like #gen-chat
2. Someone, was obviously searching for my name in the Discord Channel looking for me to "trip up to use it against me."
3. That person found where I said it, screenshotted it, and then shared it with the express intent of stirring up drama causing an issue.
4. Mike posted that on Reddit where I found out that someone had screenshot it and shared it around. Naturally I thought it was Mike that did it and I PM'd him about it. He shared that someone else was spreading it around.
5. Mike and I had a very nice chat after that and we have no issues.
6. Then I reached out to Olivia and apologized. She responded back and we discussed like adults with apologies and a resolution.
I have not been "nasty" in any regards since last year in the Olivia R2 thread. (In which surprise surprise, Zamb was involved in and her keyset compatibility took a step backwards....) So while yes, I slipped up last year and said something that shouldn't have been typed out, I apologized and owned up for it because I'm not a child.
In fact, most of this hobby has people who are so caught up on "status" and "fame" it's turned most people into drama queens. I don't care if you don't like me. And as I stated I've been pretty cordial to nearly everyone I've met and talked to in this hobby. However at some point it boils over for everyone. You tend to ride on a high horse as if you're perfect, but we all know, no one actually is.
So I'm not sure what your intent on bringing up something from over a year ago was in this thread, but I hope you know that you're going to slip up at one point too, and when it happens, know that I won't be the one to remind you of it at a later date because that's not how I operate.
You brought up being good with Olivia, not me, as if you think her accepting your apology means everyone else is made good, and it's just Zambumon being unreasonably hostile.
You frame this as Zambumon being petty, spiteful, etc. instead of just accepting it's his keyset design, he can do what he wants and you can vote with your wallet like everyone else.
You're the one (or some other 40% user) who brings up this "boycott" every time, so please don't lecture me about bringing up old drama.
TBH I don't know why I bother writing anything at all, you don't care what I have to say, as in your mind, I'm lumped in with Zambumon and the other "boycotters", and the thread gets cleaned up anyway and all these words will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
I should have been cancelled a long time ago, I'm just more careful, I guess, but thanks for the advice.
hey wilba... go **** yourself
If I could, I would.
You're the one (or some other 40% user) who brings up this "boycott" every time, so please don't lecture me about bringing up old drama.
You're the one (or some other 40% user) who brings up this "boycott" every time, so please don't lecture me about bringing up old drama.
Wild, imagine 40% users expressing interest in an IC thread by asking for a couple keycaps to support the boards they want to use/create.
You're the one (or some other 40% user) who brings up this "boycott" every time, so please don't lecture me about bringing up old drama.
Wild, imagine 40% users expressing interest in an IC thread by asking for a couple keycaps to support the boards they want to use/create.
I said they bring up this "boycott" drama ever time and call the designer spiteful, still "holding a grudge" etc.
I fully agree that people can ask for what they would like to see in an IC. However, if the designer says no, that should be the end of it.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
I'm pretty new to all this gb stuff, is this compatible with nk65?
You're the one (or some other 40% user) who brings up this "boycott" every time, so please don't lecture me about bringing up old drama.
Wild, imagine 40% users expressing interest in an IC thread by asking for a couple keycaps to support the boards they want to use/create.
I said they bring up this "boycott" drama ever time and call the designer spiteful, still "holding a grudge" etc.
I fully agree that people can ask for what they would like to see in an IC. However, if the designer says no, that should be the end of it.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
I have not been "nasty" in any regards since last year in the Olivia R2 thread. (In which surprise surprise, Zamb was involved in and her keyset compatibility took a step backwards....) So while yes, I slipped up last year and said something that shouldn't have been typed out, I apologized and owned up for it because I'm not a child.And Olivia and I hashed out issues with her previous sets so I'm good with her and she knows that.
You callled Olivia the C-word in a public discord and you only apologized when you were called out by Mike from Novel Keys when he posted the screengrab.
Maybe this explains why keyset designers might still be a little hostile towards you and any comments you make on their interest checks.
Just saying.
I have not been "nasty" in any regards since last year in the Olivia R2 thread. (In which surprise surprise, Zamb was involved in and her keyset compatibility took a step backwards....) So while yes, I slipped up last year and said something that shouldn't have been typed out, I apologized and owned up for it because I'm not a child.And Olivia and I hashed out issues with her previous sets so I'm good with her and she knows that.
You callled Olivia the C-word in a public discord and you only apologized when you were called out by Mike from Novel Keys when he posted the screengrab.
Maybe this explains why keyset designers might still be a little hostile towards you and any comments you make on their interest checks.
Just saying.
Since you seem to be convinced that Zambumon will try to discourage just about anybody to not include/remove 1.75u R2 Backspace, I will offer some evidence to the contrary: I have confided in him, among other people, in upcoming projects or asked his opinion on sets that I have helped others with which include that specific key, and not once has he mentioned removing it. Neither has he tried to convince me to do so, nor convince me to convince my friends to remove the key.
At a casual glance, I do sometimes get the impression that 1.75u Backspace is the hill that the most vocal members of the 40s community have chosen to die on, so to speak. As someone who doesn't use 40% keyboards and is not a part of that community, it does sometimes feel like every time someone refuses to include the key in their sets, someone else will design another 40% board that uses it to try and leverage the issue. Whether or not this is actually the case is a different situation entirely.
The world doesn't revolve around Zambumon, nor other designers for that matter, but the question of including 1.75u backspace or not is absolutely that designer's choice.
With all that said, why did you choose not to include it in darling?
With all that said, why did you choose not to include it in darling?
There are multiple reasons, but if Darling gets a R2 in GMK then it can be discussed in that IC thread, assuming that the kitting is the same as R1 (it won’t be). My reasons for omitting that key are irrelevant to the IC for Serika R2, and GMK Darling R1 is long since past the point where it would make any difference to discuss it at length in this thread.
...whining and complaining like little babies...
...acting like immature children and whining about not getting what you want...
...Don't throw a tantrum...
If this "growing number of 40's users" in the market have such an "unmet need," then maybe one of them should step up and design a keyset with 40's support.
...whining and complaining like little babies...
...acting like immature children and whining about not getting what you want...
...Don't throw a tantrum...
I'm confused about what I wrote that strikes you as throwing a tantrum. I just tried to rationally tease apart the vast majority of 40s users, from the few voices that are rehashing bad blood for the umpteenth time. At some point this has gotta move past whatever happened between these folks. There are hundreds of active 40% users and dozens of active designers currently running ICs or GBs in the discord server alone, and the two legacy 40% users that have been called out in this thread don't represent even a small fraction of our community. Maybe in 2017 TVK was a representative chunk of the 40% community but it's nearly 2021 now.
In fact I think I've been pretty calm and candid about what I think the situation here is. Frankly I think your disrespectful and baseless accusations of immaturity are uncalled for. If anything it seems to me like you're projecting here, but I'll leave it to the reader to decide whether they think it's more mature to attempt to facilitate discussion about expanding keyset compatibility based on an emerging market, or to jump into that discussion and try to stir up vitriol by hurling weird insults calling people "babies" etc.If this "growing number of 40's users" in the market have such an "unmet need," then maybe one of them should step up and design a keyset with 40's support.
Actually there are plenty of keysets that support the 40s layouts in question. We're not here in the Serika R2 IC thread to discuss other keysets though, we're here to discuss Serika R2. I'm posting here because I like Serika and I want to use it on my keyboards. It's a very popular and attractive colorway. And I know a lot of other 40% users feel the same, and would love to put this keyset on our boards if Zambumon would support literally these 2 extra keycaps.
I’m genuinely trying to see the argument from your view so I can have insight from both sides. However, every way I look at it from your side results in the same outcome...you’re being overly demanding and complaining about not getting what you want....whining and complaining like little babies...
...acting like immature children and whining about not getting what you want...
...Don't throw a tantrum...
I'm confused about what I wrote that strikes you as throwing a tantrum. I just tried to rationally tease apart the vast majority of 40s users, from the few voices that are rehashing bad blood for the umpteenth time. At some point this has gotta move past whatever happened between these folks. There are hundreds of active 40% users and dozens of active designers currently running ICs or GBs in the discord server alone, and the two legacy 40% users that have been called out in this thread don't represent even a small fraction of our community. Maybe in 2017 TVK was a representative chunk of the 40% community but it's nearly 2021 now.
In fact I think I've been pretty calm and candid about what I think the situation here is. Frankly I think your disrespectful and baseless accusations of immaturity are uncalled for. If anything it seems to me like you're projecting here, but I'll leave it to the reader to decide whether they think it's more mature to attempt to facilitate discussion about expanding keyset compatibility based on an emerging market, or to jump into that discussion and try to stir up vitriol by hurling weird insults calling people "babies" etc.If this "growing number of 40's users" in the market have such an "unmet need," then maybe one of them should step up and design a keyset with 40's support.
Actually there are plenty of keysets that support the 40s layouts in question. We're not here in the Serika R2 IC thread to discuss other keysets though, we're here to discuss Serika R2. I'm posting here because I like Serika and I want to use it on my keyboards. It's a very popular and attractive colorway. And I know a lot of other 40% users feel the same, and would love to put this keyset on our boards if Zambumon would support literally these 2 extra keycaps.
With all that said, why did you choose not to include it in darling?
There are multiple reasons, but if Darling gets a R2 in GMK then it can be discussed in that IC thread, assuming that the kitting is the same as R1 (it won’t be). My reasons for omitting that key are irrelevant to the IC for Serika R2, and GMK Darling R1 is long since past the point where it would make any difference to discuss it at length in this thread.
What an incredibly bullocks response. You just explained that it's simple as to why designers can choose not to include a keycap, but say there are multiple reasons you personally didn't but fail to elaborate.
I have a hunch you have no reasoning and simply decided it wasn't worth the time or effort because of all the nonsense surrounding this issue (then why pop in here at all and give your half penny), or are attempting to follow in the footsteps of designers that you feel are leading the scape of the hobby in hopes to be included in their reigns.
You can't jump into a thread and attempt to be logical without giving reasoning to why you purposefully wanted to not include compatibility, it's a complete phony.
I really have to applaud the effort some people put into making themselves unlikeable. Personally I actually reconsidered my own stance on this subject not too long ago, but after seeing how some individuals open the conversation, I quickly dismissed that thought.
Kinda looks like a rip off from GMK Gregory tbhShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/AYwHHXH.jpg)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106351.0
Kinda looks like a rip off from GMK Gregory tbhShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/AYwHHXH.jpg)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106351.0
Kinda looks like a rip off from GMK Gregory tbhShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/AYwHHXH.jpg)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106351.0
Pls tell me this is meme, this isn't the first time the set has run
Exhibit for the Defense: IMO Serika and Gregory are quite different and I would never consider purchasing Gregory. I would, and am, considering Serika. I just don't want a face on my keyboard.
It is very hard to establish IP around a color. See Susan G Komen Foundation attempt to trademark the color Pink. I'm not going to pretend I know how this will play out (in the EU?), but in the US this case likely would be considered frivolous and get thrown out on summary judgment. Defining characteristic of Gregory is the face: eyes, nose, etc. Without, this is just a yellow and beige set. What's next? Disney sues for BoW because in infringes on 101 Dalmatians?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PmnLpyM.jpg)Show Image(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/e7d84d3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1536+0+0/resize/840x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F16%2F65%2Fd2ef37e7c374d5f7916ce458a816%2Fla-la-ca-0122-101-dalmatians-114-jpg-20150128)
Exhibit for the Defense: IMO Serika and Gregory are quite different and I would never consider purchasing Gregory. I would, and am, considering Serika. I just don't want a face on my keyboard.
It is very hard to establish IP around a color. See Susan G Komen Foundation attempt to trademark the color Pink. I'm not going to pretend I know how this will play out (in the EU?), but in the US this case likely would be considered frivolous and get thrown out on summary judgment. Defining characteristic of Gregory is the face: eyes, nose, etc. Without, this is just a yellow and beige set. What's next? Disney sues for BoW because in infringes on 101 Dalmatians?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PmnLpyM.jpg)Show Image(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/e7d84d3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1536+0+0/resize/840x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F16%2F65%2Fd2ef37e7c374d5f7916ce458a816%2Fla-la-ca-0122-101-dalmatians-114-jpg-20150128)
Zambumon is being sued in the EU as I said (Spain). Doggo Inc. has sued him in the US, Americas, Mexico, Brazil, South America, the Guyanas, Australia, Germany, Chile, Spain and Butan. I know he won the cause here in Brazil because I actually helped him; it was pretty easy since the lawyers of Doggo Inc thought in Brazil we speak spanish when we actually speak brazilian, a dialect of portuguese, which is a dialect of Latin, which is a dialect of Greek, where gay sex was invented. In Australia, him and Wilba won the case arguing that Sydney actually isn't Australia's capital. Oblotzki said he'd help in Germany, but just after he finishes his currywurst. He's losing the processes in the other countries, though.
As for IP protection, you know how big companies are. Doggo Inc is a huge company and they will use all their power not to let people make products that hold even the most remote resembleance to Gregory. For instance, Oblo had to ask permission to Coke to run Crimson Cadet, since Coke threatened to sue him because they own white plus red. Valve sued Tombery for the carbon novelties that depict the Half-Life Lambda. Riot Games
sued GMK for GMK Toxic because the LoL community actually owns the rights to be the most toxic. The list goes on.
Exhibit for the Defense: IMO Serika and Gregory are quite different and I would never consider purchasing Gregory. I would, and am, considering Serika. I just don't want a face on my keyboard.
It is very hard to establish IP around a color. See Susan G Komen Foundation attempt to trademark the color Pink. I'm not going to pretend I know how this will play out (in the EU?), but in the US this case likely would be considered frivolous and get thrown out on summary judgment. Defining characteristic of Gregory is the face: eyes, nose, etc. Without, this is just a yellow and beige set. What's next? Disney sues for BoW because in infringes on 101 Dalmatians?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PmnLpyM.jpg)Show Image(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/e7d84d3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1536+0+0/resize/840x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F16%2F65%2Fd2ef37e7c374d5f7916ce458a816%2Fla-la-ca-0122-101-dalmatians-114-jpg-20150128)
Zambumon is being sued in the EU as I said (Spain). Doggo Inc. has sued him in the US, Americas, Mexico, Brazil, South America, the Guyanas, Australia, Germany, Chile, Spain and Butan. I know he won the cause here in Brazil because I actually helped him; it was pretty easy since the lawyers of Doggo Inc thought in Brazil we speak spanish when we actually speak brazilian, a dialect of portuguese, which is a dialect of Latin, which is a dialect of Greek, where gay sex was invented. In Australia, him and Wilba won the case arguing that Sydney actually isn't Australia's capital. Oblotzki said he'd help in Germany, but just after he finishes his currywurst. He's losing the processes in the other countries, though.
As for IP protection, you know how big companies are. Doggo Inc is a huge company and they will use all their power not to let people make products that hold even the most remote resembleance to Gregory. For instance, Oblo had to ask permission to Coke to run Crimson Cadet, since Coke threatened to sue him because they own white plus red. Valve sued Tombery for the carbon novelties that depict the Half-Life Lambda. Riot Games
sued GMK for GMK Toxic because the LoL community actually owns the rights to be the most toxic. The list goes on.
I can confirm that he has been hearing from our lawyers :p
Jokes aside glwgb :)
I just don't want a face on my keyboard.
Exhibit for the Defense: IMO Serika and Gregory are quite different and I would never consider purchasing Gregory. I would, and am, considering Serika. I just don't want a face on my keyboard.
It is very hard to establish IP around a color. See Susan G Komen Foundation attempt to trademark the color Pink. I'm not going to pretend I know how this will play out (in the EU?), but in the US this case likely would be considered frivolous and get thrown out on summary judgment. Defining characteristic of Gregory is the face: eyes, nose, etc. Without, this is just a yellow and beige set. What's next? Disney sues for BoW because in infringes on 101 Dalmatians?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PmnLpyM.jpg)Show Image(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/e7d84d3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1536+0+0/resize/840x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F16%2F65%2Fd2ef37e7c374d5f7916ce458a816%2Fla-la-ca-0122-101-dalmatians-114-jpg-20150128)
Zambumon is being sued in the EU as I said (Spain). Doggo Inc. has sued him in the US, Americas, Mexico, Brazil, South America, the Guyanas, Australia, Germany, Chile, Spain and Butan. I know he won the cause here in Brazil because I actually helped him; it was pretty easy since the lawyers of Doggo Inc thought in Brazil we speak spanish when we actually speak brazilian, a dialect of portuguese, which is a dialect of Latin, which is a dialect of Greek, where gay sex was invented. In Australia, him and Wilba won the case arguing that Sydney actually isn't Australia's capital. Oblotzki said he'd help in Germany, but just after he finishes his currywurst. He's losing the processes in the other countries, though.
As for IP protection, you know how big companies are. Doggo Inc is a huge company and they will use all their power not to let people make products that hold even the most remote resembleance to Gregory. For instance, Oblo had to ask permission to Coke to run Crimson Cadet, since Coke threatened to sue him because they own white plus red. Valve sued Tombery for the carbon novelties that depict the Half-Life Lambda. Riot Games
sued GMK for GMK Toxic because the LoL community actually owns the rights to be the most toxic. The list goes on.
I can confirm that he has been hearing from our lawyers :p
Jokes aside glwgb :)
Kid,
If you have anything to say in term of IP, feel free to sue. And lose.
In the event you don’t understand IP law, I would suggest you to get a lawyer.
Kid,
If you have anything to say in term of IP, feel free to sue. And lose.
In the event you don’t understand IP law, I would suggest you to get a lawyer.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/9eLbjOcGOpmY8/giphy.gif)
Kid,
If you have anything to say in term of IP, feel free to sue. And lose.
In the event you don’t understand IP law, I would suggest you to get a lawyer.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/9eLbjOcGOpmY8/giphy.gif)
For context: Oblotzky's post is a quote from an e-mail exchange with HK Gaming.
Congrats, you have missed the joke.
For context: https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/jpyzzk/so_a_hk_gaming_reseller_thought_that_it_would_be/
This is something that for the first round or Striker wasn't able to fix and I'd really like to change for this round.Show Image(https://zambumon.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/verne_serika_021.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ybUSee2.png)
Did I just hear you say Striker round 2?
I didn't know I could be more hype than I already am for Serika r2.