I would guess the Lockheart will be $399 and the Anaconda will be $6-799
Yeah. I suspect $500, too. Can't compete w/ your PC with that.It doesn't have to.
It looks like that's just the Lockheart, since the Anaconda is literally two of those gpu boards stacked on top each other.
PS5 details tomorrow.
It looks like that's just the Lockheart, since the Anaconda is literally two of those gpu boards stacked on top each other.
IN the breakdown video , it has 2 boards. one io board and one main, you mean the anaconda will have 2 main boards ?
People are complaining about the looks being like a trash bin. It actually has a smaller footprint and looks like it will be cooled well with that top fan. Works for me.
The "leaked" ps5 photos make that joint look like binoculars. Or the head of Wall-E.
The PS5 V photos are real, but that is the dev kit. There's no way they use that design for the consumer model, it looks terrible.
I meant just as a gaming system, leslie. I wasn't clear enough.It wasn't just directed at you, I see that comment quite a lot.
I meant just as a gaming system, leslie. I wasn't clear enough.It wasn't just directed at you, I see that comment quite a lot.
That said, how long will it remain out front? 6 months, 12?
One other thing, it's a deal, but only if you don't already have a decent computer. You may argue but that's not fair but of you own a decent computer, you own a decent computer, you can't just ignore it to make the xbox more appealing. In my case $500 towards a GPU would make my system an absolute gaming beast.
Very similar, yeah. They are really coming through. I don't know which I'll go with.
If they just hooked up mouse and keeb to this, they would INsta-kill PC gaming.
It would Obliterate Steam, there wouldn't be any other software store in america.
I'm sure that's in the plans.. but MS is slow because they're too big with bureaucracy.
Hardware is not more or less important than the software.
I don't understand why this thread and a lot of other outlets are focused on the hardware. It's almost the least important part of a gaming console, just look at Nintendo.
I suppose there's not much else to talk about because all we've been told about is the hardware.
MS will find it's market niche with xcompat and software sharing with PC titles, they will remain in 3rd place behind Nintendo and Sony because they have no clue on how to penetrate the Global market, they won't have any new fresh or innovative IP's for at least the first year or two, and you can bet there will be at least 3 more iterations of the X1X- A 'pro' version(Anaconda,) a Slim version, and a media-focused version.
I'm by no means a Nintendo fanboy, but it's absurd to overlook the levels of innovation and polish in their first party titles. To dismiss generations of fantastic games because their hardware always ties in gimmicks is doing nothing but depriving yourself of great gaming experiences. Even something done to death and not that innovative like the recent Smash Bros has downright absurd levels of polish to it that you just don't see from other first party developers.
Can this be true?
How the **** they gonna price this with that kind of power?
Also while they both will use an ssd they use a proprietary connector, this will limit updates and mod potential.
It is, doesn't mean you can replace it though.Also while they both will use an ssd they use a proprietary connector, this will limit updates and mod potential.
It's almost certainly a format of PCIE.
Something else I found today and really makes a difference.
The memory is shared.
It's 16gigs of fast memory but it's shared between GPU and CPU. that's never as good as dedicated.
Also while they both will use an ssd they use a proprietary connector, this will limit updates and mod potential.
It is, doesn't mean you can replace it though.Also while they both will use an ssd they use a proprietary connector, this will limit updates and mod potential.
It's almost certainly a format of PCIE.
I would be surprised if it wasn't some off-the-shelf M.2 drive tossed into some shell with an adapter. I imagine people will be mimicking the filesystem setup within months if that's the case, just like previous console storage devices.
So it looks like PS5 will only be xcompat with PS4 :(
Extremely disappointing.
The question is, is it DDR, or GDDR? I wish consoles would stop doing that to save a buck.At least one of then (xbox and PS) is GDDR, I forget which, the other lacks info. If may be GDDR, but it's still shared. Even if it was faster you have to prioritize the CPU of GPU and you still have to share it. Sharing costs cpu cycles and neither gets all of it.
I would be surprised if it wasn't some off-the-shelf M.2 drive tossed into some shell with an adapter. I imagine people will be mimicking the filesystem setup within months if that's the case, just like previous console storage devices.
It will almost certainly have an authentication chip. They've even put these chips in new laptop batteries now to prevent aftermarket batteries..
At least one of then (xbox and PS) is GDDR, I forget which, the other lacks info. If may be GDDR, but it's still shared. Even if it was faster you have to prioritize the CPU of GPU and you still have to share it. Sharing costs cpu cycles and neither gets all of it.
It may have an M.2 socket, and an M.2 drive may even slide in, doesn't mean they have to wire it based on m.2 standards. They won't make a housing when they can simply change a trace or two, which costs nothing.
The external memory cards, yes those are rumored to be M.2 cards in a custom housing. If they do what a few people suspect they may do, these are going to be expensive and HORRIBLE to work with.
I would be very, very surprised if they were not off-the-shelf drives.Everything I said was taken from insider leaks and photos, from reputable sources, only reason I know is because it came across the news sites I watch.
I would be very, very surprised if they were not off-the-shelf drives.Everything I said was taken from insider leaks and photos, from reputable sources, only reason I know is because it came across the news sites I watch.
A hard drive is made by one of three (?) companies, you need a specialized factory to make them and existing ones have enough of a monopoly (tri-opoly) that getting them to make changes in their factory just for you are unlikely. There's also an issue of size, they don't make small, cheap drives (there's no money in those) and I suspect Sony and Microsoft don't actually want large drives in these systems. This will drive more to the cloud and sales of external drives which they can mark up, particularly with a proprietary connector they license.
That's not the case with an ssd, which are mostly a pcb with a few components, PCBs are easy to change on a whim. You can even make them at home with relatively cheap tools.
They're still the go to for Japanese developers so they get a ton of exclusives just by virtue of that fact.
It'll be interesting to see what system becomes the defacto standard. They're too similar for many people to want both. I suspect that Playstation did so well this generation that the PS5 will win by default. They're still the go to for Japanese developers so they get a ton of exclusives just by virtue of that fact. Microsoft are going to have to get way more exclusives than Forza, Halo etc. to bring in new users.
People apparently talk about backwards compatibility being a big deal but very few people actually use it. If you want PS3 and PS2/1 compatibility you can always buy the consoles they're plentiful and cheap as chips.
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Microsoft needs to either double down on the cross platform game and media sharing between PC and Xbox, or they need new and innovative ip's that aren't just more sci fi shooters and driving games. Those are the only ways they will recoup. They don't need to compete against Sony, they need to corner a different user base. Wars are expensive to fight, and inevitably it becomes a game of attrition to compete with what the other side has. Instead of thinking about how to steal Sony's customer base, MS should be focused on creating something unique only they can offer.
Meanwhile Nintendo is just sitting back in the green because they distanced their hardware from the competition and have a stable of reliable ip's they aren't afraid to tinker with instead of delivering the same game over and over. I haven't owned a Nintendo console since the Gamecube, but you've got to respect the sustainable market they've carved out for themselves.
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They're still the go to for Japanese developers so they get a ton of exclusives just by virtue of that fact.
It's more like SONY is holding the Japanese developers HOSTAGE.. I've spoken to many developers, and they've explained the unwritten rule, if they're not on the inside track (gangster gaming companies, like konami), they have to tread carefully to stay favorable to the mob-boss Sony.
Jpn is a very tight Oligarchy ruled by former gangsters gone white. This is the case with most countries (not just Jpn). For example, United States and UK, government member's heavy involvement in the slave and opium trade.
Sony Toshiba etc, these are all conglomerates of gangsters and former war-criminals (yes the ones who bombed pearl harbor) which the USA propped up post WWII to establish an eastern base.
here we go, I present to you the PS5
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PS5 looks like a cheap router that they slapped two white slabs onto the sides that were made for an entirely different product. Looks awful IMOShow Image(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/NyaFrRNjWqCodHznYXxU2L.jpg)
Aesthetically I'll take a Microsoft Cube any day of the week. Buuuut they announced a Demon's Souls remake which will likely force my hand towards Sony.