It has a very small key travel reduction, so you may or may not notice it. It dampens the noise pretty well, and eliminates almost all of the shock you feel when the key hits the bottom. If you cant decide which pack to get, try these ones first. Cant go wrong with these ones, theyre good all around || source : WhiteFireDragons GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25714.msg524147;topicseen#msg524147)
This one is my personal favorite, but I know its not for everyone.Its the max thickness you can have in an O-ring.It bottoms out just after the keys registration point. This simulates scissor switches on laptops or thin membrane keyboard, but still retains the mechanical feel from MX switches. || source : WhiteFireDragons GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25714.msg524147;topicseen#msg524147)
I might buy these, however, persuade me that the current £1 o-rings I bought off of ebay are inferior to the ones you are selling, if you can, i will buy :-DSince nothing about your rings are known, I'm not sure anyone here has the ability to compare. What hardness are they? What thickness?
I might buy these, however, persuade me that the current £1 o-rings I bought off of ebay are inferior to the ones you are selling, if you can, i will buy :-D
I might buy these, however, persuade me that the current £1 o-rings I bought off of ebay are inferior to the ones you are selling, if you can, i will buy :-DSince nothing about your rings are known, I'm not sure anyone here has the ability to compare. What hardness are they? What thickness?
You are in a better position to compare than LPWL.
I ... am not in a position to buy this month. But I would like to hear what shipping to the states ends up being when someone gets their order to them, as October is likely to see me buying into this.
Can you take a picture of your rings together with a blue one from the WASDkeyboards - a side view, to compare their thicknesses visually. Also: if you have those blue ones can you post a comparison of their specs? Many people are familiar with those and are willing to compare. Be proactive in a nice way and you may sell a few sets.Same here. Especially the fat one.
Oh BTW is it possible to organise some proxies to minimize shipping?
I will place an order sometime during the next week for one of each 90pcs.
Will get some packs once the money gets through into my PayPal.
TIL that Paypal fees are not the same for receiving payments from buyers inside and outside EEA (European Economic Area).
3,4% vs 3,9%Oh BTW is it possible to organise some proxies to minimize shipping?
Sure, no problem if you can find someone who is okay to proxy.I will place an order sometime during the next week for one of each 90pcs.Will get some packs once the money gets through into my PayPal.
Great !
I'll ship the first orders tomorrow morning :thumb:
Of course - I'll add a few extra on top of your order !I've just payed the invoice :)) Thank you so much!
Can you take a picture of your rings together with a blue one from the WASDkeyboards - a side view, to compare their thicknesses visually. Also: if you have those blue ones can you post a comparison of their specs? Many people are familiar with those and are willing to compare. Be proactive in a nice way and you may sell a few sets.
According to amazon.com WASD blue rings are made of "EPDM rubber, resistant to cracking and tearing".
http://www.amazon.com/Cherry-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners/dp/B00AZQ2OF8
My personal experience with these particular rings supports this claim.
Here is a link to Wikipedia on this material: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPDM_rubber
Now, your rings are made of silicone and my concern is that they could be less resistant to "cracking and tearing", but this may became apparent after several months of use.
[...]
When you are saying : "SP's DCS profile do not even have any struts so they don't work with O-rings".
Do you mean that SP keycaps do not have any crossbar :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wMOYaeu.jpg)
If so, why a big O-ring would not do the same job than a thinner O-ring + crossbar ?
I shipped your order last Monday and I hoped that you would have received it this week-end :rolleyes:Ahh i see. Well my post office doesn't work on weekends haha :p so hopefully i'll get it tomorrow ;D thanks so much again
Delivery to Australia should be between 6 to 10 business days (= Priority mail international).
My O-rings arrived today! Thanks so much! The thick orings are really nice :)) and are really silent. Typing on reds right now and the shortened travel distance is actually bliss ;D also tested the thinner ones which IMO don't feel as nice on reds. But they're easier going if you're uncomfortable with super short travel distances.
I got my slim O-rings yesterday. I have Tai Hao keycaps and the O-rings work very well with them :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/u3qG0Ii.jpg)
Got mine today!! Thank you Lpwl for doing this. It's been two years since I was first interested in o-rings and your research and service helped me pull the trigger to get them. I'm currently installing them right now, but you were right in recommending the slim o-rings for the Cherry keys. The fat rings prevent the keys from pushing down flat, and they reduce the travel distance too much for my taste. I'll add more later after I get acquainted to the change, but so far I really like how much noise they reduce and the travel distance reduction is just about right. Thanks again!
Will help spread the word! ;DMy O-rings arrived today! Thanks so much! The thick orings are really nice :)) and are really silent. Typing on reds right now and the shortened travel distance is actually bliss ;D also tested the thinner ones which IMO don't feel as nice on reds. But they're easier going if you're uncomfortable with super short travel distances.I got my slim O-rings yesterday. I have Tai Hao keycaps and the O-rings work very well with them :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/u3qG0Ii.jpg)Got mine today!! Thank you Lpwl for doing this. It's been two years since I was first interested in o-rings and your research and service helped me pull the trigger to get them. I'm currently installing them right now, but you were right in recommending the slim o-rings for the Cherry keys. The fat rings prevent the keys from pushing down flat, and they reduce the travel distance too much for my taste. I'll add more later after I get acquainted to the change, but so far I really like how much noise they reduce and the travel distance reduction is just about right. Thanks again!
This is great guys !
I am glad you are enjoyed them
DAMN, I nearly missed this :o :o :o :o .He has heaps left :)) go help spread the word ;D
Placed some orders for these, looking forward to installing them onto some Cherry Boards :thumb: .
DAMN, I nearly missed this :o :o :o :o .
Placed some orders for these, looking forward to installing them onto some Cherry Boards :thumb: .
Oh btw are there any updates on those clear o-rings? Do you know about the quality yet?DAMN, I nearly missed this :o :o :o :o .
Placed some orders for these, looking forward to installing them onto some Cherry Boards :thumb: .
When I saw you missed Granite R2, I was thinking : "This guy has no luck..."
... and this is what happens !
I just sent your invoice Elrick.
Your luck is back :p
Quick update :
"Fat" O-rings 125 pcs / bag - SOLD OUT.
"Slim" O-rings 110 pcs / bag - SOLD OUT.
When I saw you missed Granite R2, I was thinking : "This guy has no luck..."
... and this is what happens !
I just sent your invoice Elrick.
Your luck is back :p
Got my Orings Last week, Shipped very well and very fast, very nice! They fit very well and are exactly what I was looking for.
Couple of quesitons, guys:
1) Did anyone tried using fat o-rings with Cherry profile keycaps? I wounder if they'll actually fit;
2) Will fat o-rings interfere with LEDs? Anyone tried it on backlit boards?
Question to Lpwl, are there any plans for future buys? As an suggestion - maybe do it in clear rubber next time and EPDM instead of silicone, if you could source it ofc/
Any updates on this?
Um, I'm not sure about buying the o-rings since I use different keycap profiles on the same board, but that transparent keycap has me intrigued. May I know where you bought them and for how much?Judging from his video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9TUa_az9rI) then i imagine they're the caps that game with his QWER tester
Um, I'm not sure about buying the o-rings since I use different keycap profiles on the same board, but that transparent keycap has me intrigued. May I know where you bought them and for how much?Judging from his video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9TUa_az9rI) then i imagine they're the caps that game with his QWER tester
I got my package, thank you very much again Lpwl!! :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/bkXQQ2j.jpg)
I got my package today as well!Show Image(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10404338_10154860747445184_5728489873370986587_n.jpg?oh=69b9be2d25e44e628db1e96ddbffc8e5&oe=550C6E1C&__gda__=1427084921_37ff77a40f910fb4e316b4da245c2a3e)
thanks LPWL!!!
*edit*
I took these as well and figured i may as well share them, i really like these o-rings!
Size differenceShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Q14nvp8.jpg)
Height differenceShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZekRbM0.jpg)
After looking at my photo's i took a closer look and realized that there's a quality difference as well because the rings that i got from a G710+ have slight imperfections on about 1/3 on them where as LPWL's are all flawless. (The imperfection is near the top left on the black ring)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5fgcZsF.jpg)
Do you have any slim 40A o-rings? I don't think those thick ones will work on my Filco.
Ah sorry was a bit unclear, i haw low profile keys one the Filco
Looks really great! I signed up to keep an eye on this and will probably order some slimmer ones once you have them available. I could order them elsewhere but the fact that you're in Europe gives me the opportunity to support someone locally.
So these are too fat to use with cherry keycaps? :(
Order submitted. That Gollum gif at the end was a nice touch.
Order submitted. That Gollum gif at the end was a nice touch.
Thank you.
I sent you an invoice few minutes later !
Haha someone told me that the gif was a little bit creepy, is it really?Show Image(http://giant.gfycat.com/EasyUltimateFalcon.gif)
Paid~
Look forward to checking out the clear O-rings. This pretty much confirms my want to build a full clear keyboard. Now which keycaps xD...
Hi Lpwl,
I read the OP and read that the "Fat" O-rings are too thick to be used with "low-profile" keycaps, but then I also saw "If you are using SignaturePlastics keycaps (w/ no crossbar inside), you have to double - sometimes triple - them up."
I have DSA Dolch and DSA PBT Blanks from SP. DSA is a low-medium profile. Will the Fat O-rings work? I think I read something about the crossbar right underneath the top layer of the keycap missing in SP keycaps. I understand that means stacking more O-rings, but is there a fit issue with the width? Can you clarify?
I ordered normal, thin 0.4mm TEX O-rings from Massdrop, but I would like to shorten and soften my key travel distance as much as possible. I'm hoping these Fat O-rings will do nicely.
There are still a few bags left (^ 90 pcs) but over the last 3 weeks, nearly ~6k O-rings were sold between Geekhack, Deskthority & /r/MechMarket !
Paid~
Look forward to checking out the clear O-rings. This pretty much confirms my want to build a full clear keyboard. Now which keycaps xD...
I think it's already too late but there is a reason why this forum is nicknamed WalletHack ;D haha
Welcome to Geekhack !
... and thank you, I'll ship your order tomorrow morning.
I knew the name before joining. I might be aware of what I got myself into haha.
And the orings arrived! Got the clear fat ones for those interested. I'm quite loving them
Thanks~
My +3 year old nitrile o-rings from WASD keyboard are cracking down and now need new rings asap. Any estimate when you have a new stock?
which are the best to help bottoming out blues on a das4?I have the thick rings from R2 (not XXL rings) and I find that those are just right for blues. I imagine the XXL rings being too thick but I've never tested it so I don't know
In for a few packs of thin reds and XXL clears :thumb:.
I must say, these things are damn nice and quite well priced when compared to alternatives (like the ones from WASD). Got some from R3 and they're super soft and comfy. They really make typing on a metal plate a lot more enjoyable. I suggest stocking up :D.
which are the best to help bottoming out blues on a das4?I have the thick rings from R2 (not XXL rings) and I find that those are just right for blues. I imagine the XXL rings being too thick but I've never tested it so I don't know
Thank you Evo_Spec.
I would like to get 2 of the think rings please. How do I get started?
Lpwl,
actually I jumped on the Granite and Dolch Key Set from MassDrop so maybe the XXL are better as you stated on 1st post?
I tried the order form but its closed.
would going with the mid ones (think) let me use them with any type of keycap?
Maybe this?
1xThin
1XThick
1X XXL
any recommendations would be appreciated. thanks!
In for a few packs of thin reds and XXL clears :thumb:.
I must say, these things are damn nice and quite well priced when compared to alternatives (like the ones from WASD). Got some from R3 and they're super soft and comfy. They really make typing on a metal plate a lot more enjoyable. I suggest stocking up :D.
"A few packs" haha sure.
Your order kinda freaked me out. ;D
Thank you for your support~
I must confess things have gone out of control yesterday.
I was planning to run this sale over a month b-b-but nearly all my "Thick" & "XXL" O-rings were already taken within a few hours !
Lpwl,
actually I jumped on the Granite and Dolch Key Set from MassDrop so maybe the XXL are better as you stated on 1st post?
I tried the order form but its closed.
would going with the mid ones (think) let me use them with any type of keycap?
Maybe this?
1xThin
1XThick
1X XXL
any recommendations would be appreciated. thanks!
Thanks for the info. Now I know for next time. Jumped on and only see thin. When do you think there will be more think and xxl available?
In for a few packs of thin reds and XXL clears :thumb:.
I must say, these things are damn nice and quite well priced when compared to alternatives (like the ones from WASD). Got some from R3 and they're super soft and comfy. They really make typing on a metal plate a lot more enjoyable. I suggest stocking up :D.
"A few packs" haha sure.
Your order kinda freaked me out. ;D
Thank you for your support~
I must confess things have gone out of control yesterday.
I was planning to run this sale over a month b-b-but nearly all my "Thick" & "XXL" O-rings were already taken within a few hours !
Hey, a few can be up to 8 or 10! So, I still totally qualify! And, thanks for providing the service. I'm really glad these are selling so fast and this is working out so well for you :).Lpwl,
actually I jumped on the Granite and Dolch Key Set from MassDrop so maybe the XXL are better as you stated on 1st post?
I tried the order form but its closed.
would going with the mid ones (think) let me use them with any type of keycap?
Maybe this?
1xThin
1XThick
1X XXL
any recommendations would be appreciated. thanks!
For those wondering, I would definitely go with the XXL for any DSA sets you have (or any SP sets really). The issue with SP sets isn't actually a difference in profile, it's the fact that the caps are missing crossbars in them, like classic cherry ones have. The crossbars in classic cherries, take up 25-50% of the area underneath the cap, which works perfectly with O-Rings. When you remove those crossbars, you need a good deal more area. For my tests, using just one thick clear O-Ring had a very minimal effect on my DSA caps and higher row DCS caps (it worked pretty well for the bottom row DCS caps though), but the second I added a second, thin, red O-Ring, everything felt just about perfect. It might have been a bit too much even... meaning the XXL's are perfect, since they're right in between a single thick clear and a thick clear + a thin red. But, you couldn't go wrong with a set of thick clears and thin reds. Together those solve just about all SP problems and, separately, they still handle Cherry profile caps fine :thumb:.
Excite for these to ship lpwl!
Thanks for the info. Now I know for next time. Jumped on and only see thin. When do you think there will be more think and xxl available?
Give me a week (or so) and your wish should be fullfilled !In for a few packs of thin reds and XXL clears :thumb:.
I must say, these things are damn nice and quite well priced when compared to alternatives (like the ones from WASD). Got some from R3 and they're super soft and comfy. They really make typing on a metal plate a lot more enjoyable. I suggest stocking up :D.
"A few packs" haha sure.
Your order kinda freaked me out. ;D
Thank you for your support~
I must confess things have gone out of control yesterday.
I was planning to run this sale over a month b-b-but nearly all my "Thick" & "XXL" O-rings were already taken within a few hours !
Hey, a few can be up to 8 or 10! So, I still totally qualify! And, thanks for providing the service. I'm really glad these are selling so fast and this is working out so well for you :).Lpwl,
actually I jumped on the Granite and Dolch Key Set from MassDrop so maybe the XXL are better as you stated on 1st post?
I tried the order form but its closed.
would going with the mid ones (think) let me use them with any type of keycap?
Maybe this?
1xThin
1XThick
1X XXL
any recommendations would be appreciated. thanks!
For those wondering, I would definitely go with the XXL for any DSA sets you have (or any SP sets really). The issue with SP sets isn't actually a difference in profile, it's the fact that the caps are missing crossbars in them, like classic cherry ones have. The crossbars in classic cherries, take up 25-50% of the area underneath the cap, which works perfectly with O-Rings. When you remove those crossbars, you need a good deal more area. For my tests, using just one thick clear O-Ring had a very minimal effect on my DSA caps and higher row DCS caps (it worked pretty well for the bottom row DCS caps though), but the second I added a second, thin, red O-Ring, everything felt just about perfect. It might have been a bit too much even... meaning the XXL's are perfect, since they're right in between a single thick clear and a thick clear + a thin red. But, you couldn't go wrong with a set of thick clears and thin reds. Together those solve just about all SP problems and, separately, they still handle Cherry profile caps fine :thumb:.
Excite for these to ship lpwl!
Thank you for that.
By the way, shipping notice incomiiiiiiing !Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lTE57O2.jpg)
This is quite cool. I currently use blue o-rings to ease RSI pain, nice to see another option that may be better. So the best ones to get are the thickest (XXL) ones yeah? Any reason one wouldn't get the thickest? Like perhaps they are worse for gaming or something.There is no "best" size :) To quote the OP:
(I use a KUL Cherry Red)
Before reading any further, you must ask yourself ONE question :
> What profile keycaps will I be putting these O-rings on ?
If you are using "low-profile" keycaps, the thinnest O-rings should be great.
If you are using stock keycaps (standard / OEM profile), you may want to use some thicker O-rings.
If you are using DSA keycaps (no cross-bar support), my new "XXL" O-rings are specially made for you !
Having trouble identifying your keycaps :
[1] This article (https://www.keychatter.com/keycaps/#profiles) from Keychatter.com will probably help you.
[2] Jacobolus also made this wonderful compilation (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68550.0).
If you are still not sure, it will be my pleasure to answer you as quickly as possible !
This is quite cool. I currently use blue o-rings to ease RSI pain, nice to see another option that may be better. So the best ones to get are the thickest (XXL) ones yeah? Any reason one wouldn't get the thickest? Like perhaps they are worse for gaming or something.There is no "best" size :) To quote the OP:
(I use a KUL Cherry Red)Before reading any further, you must ask yourself ONE question :
> What profile keycaps will I be putting these O-rings on ?
If you are using "low-profile" keycaps, the thinnest O-rings should be great.
If you are using stock keycaps (standard / OEM profile), you may want to use some thicker O-rings.
If you are using DSA keycaps (no cross-bar support), my new "XXL" O-rings are specially made for you !
Having trouble identifying your keycaps :
[1] This article (https://www.keychatter.com/keycaps/#profiles) from Keychatter.com will probably help you.
[2] Jacobolus also made this wonderful compilation (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68550.0).
If you are still not sure, it will be my pleasure to answer you as quickly as possible !
I'd love to get a 125 pc set of these. Any idea how well the XXL 3mm rings will work on a Corsair k70? I'd REALLY like to minimize travel. Been using low profile rubber dome keyboards prior to this. With this mechanical keyboard, I love the feel of the press, and the keycaps actually, but they go down for miles.
I'd love to get a 125 pc set of these. Any idea how well the XXL 3mm rings will work on a Corsair k70? I'd REALLY like to minimize travel. Been using low profile rubber dome keyboards prior to this. With this mechanical keyboard, I love the feel of the press, and the keycaps actually, but they go down for miles.
Careful there !
These REAAAAALLY thick O-rings ("XXL" ones = 3.0mm) in combination with the stock keycaps (OEM profile) of your Corsair K70 keyboard will start to edge into the engineered tolerance of the actuation point of your key switches and as a consequence, you may not be able to actuate every switch comfortably.
You don't want that ! ;)
> You are good to go with the "Thick" ones (=2.5mm).
Sorry for my inexperience - where do I order? The first post of this thread is empty. I'm using a Filco Majestouch 2 OEM with MX Blues.
Ordered and paid!
Just ordered some orings.
120 xxl and 90 thin, no need to rush since I'm waiting for some GB
Received Today, First O ring so I can't really compare.
Only installed on my GMK wasd, and it feels really good, can't wait to use them on gateron clear with lube.
Et merci pour le tire-capuchon :D