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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #350 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 00:47:13 »
Yep I got chicony 5161c with indeed a genuine complicated blue alps  ;D
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Looks to be in  fantastic condition! Is that the 5161A model with NKRO? I haven't heard of the Chicony having a 5161C designation Owo
Nah its the 5161c from 1987
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #351 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 01:05:26 »
Congrats on finding one  :thumb: I wish i could tell if mine is a 5161C or a 5161A but it has no labels  :))

You going to use the board how it is or swap the switches into something else?


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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #352 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 01:30:36 »
Congrats on finding one  :thumb: I wish i could tell if mine is a 5161C or a 5161A but it has no labels  :))

You going to use the board how it is or swap the switches into something else?

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use it as it is but when I do find kingsaver I would swap the switch to the custom  :p

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #353 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 01:58:03 »
Congrats on finding one  :thumb: I wish i could tell if mine is a 5161C or a 5161A but it has no labels  :))

You going to use the board how it is or swap the switches into something else?

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use it as it is but when I do find kingsaver I would swap the switch to the custom  :p

Nice im trying to restore my 5161 with SKCL greens, just need to get the proper lights for an indoor retrobright setup. The Kingsaver is my dream board, IMO i think its the best looking custom ever. I should probably start to look for one, i havent tried yet because i dont think i would ever find one lol.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #354 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 02:43:15 »
Wow, that looks excellent, very nice find indeed :) .

If you want to know the exact model; it should say so on the PCB :) .
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #355 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 02:48:30 »
Now my next one would be Board with SKCL green

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #356 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 02:52:12 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #357 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 02:53:07 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #358 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 03:17:40 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
yep

Ah i was hoping MCK-101- "A" might have meant NKRO. Oh well standard KRO is enough, but NKRO would have been nice.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #359 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 03:43:04 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
The MCK-101 is an Ortek board, not a Chicony Oo .
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #360 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 04:04:59 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
The MCK-101 is an Ortek board, not a Chicony Oo .

 :eek: Hahaha it was the one from here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76927.msg1931900
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171994965970

Picture of front and back of the PCB:



Akimbo said it was a rebranded 5161 though
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58598.msg1339490#msg1339490


Do the Ortek versions have NKRO?




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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #361 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 04:21:50 »
Oh yeah guys I want to ask what board that usually have skcl green?  :thumb:

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #362 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 06:10:29 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
The MCK-101 is an Ortek board, not a Chicony Oo .

 :eek: Hahaha it was the one from here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76927.msg1931900
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171994965970

Picture of front and back of the PCB:
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Akimbo said it was a rebranded 5161 though
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58598.msg1339490#msg1339490


Do the Ortek versions have NKRO?





The OEMMAX is definitely not a Chicony 5161, it's a branded keyboard with Ortek as OEM. Many keyboards resemble the 5161 but they're certainly not all the same. As far as I know the OEMMAX is always blue Alps, too. No idea about rollover, though.

Oh yeah guys I want to ask what board that usually have skcl green?  :thumb:
Old Zeniths are generally your best bet, look for a Z-150 or ZKB-2 (both could also come with yellows though). They're very good looking boards, not that rare and also come with NKRO.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #363 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 08:09:03 »
wow, nice catch bocahgundul
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #364 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 08:15:35 »
wow, nice catch bocahgundul
Thank you I've been searching for 1 for about 1 month and suddenly someone want to sells theirs haha now for the skcl  green

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #365 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 09:46:38 »
Could someone help me, i'am looking for a TKL ISO ALP boards, does this exist at the moment ?


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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #366 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 11:23:50 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
The MCK-101 is an Ortek board, not a Chicony Oo .

 :eek: Hahaha it was the one from here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76927.msg1931900
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171994965970

Picture of front and back of the PCB:
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Akimbo said it was a rebranded 5161 though
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58598.msg1339490#msg1339490


Do the Ortek versions have NKRO?





The OEMMAX is definitely not a Chicony 5161, it's a branded keyboard with Ortek as OEM. Many keyboards resemble the 5161 but they're certainly not all the same. As far as I know the OEMMAX is always blue Alps, too. No idea about rollover, though.

Ah i understand, i thought it was a Chicony the whole time  :)) Do you know which adapter i should buy to use to test if it supports NKRO?

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #367 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 11:26:12 »
Congrats on finding one  :thumb: I wish i could tell if mine is a 5161C or a 5161A but it has no labels  :))

You going to use the board how it is or swap the switches into something else?

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use it as it is but when I do find kingsaver I would swap the switch to the custom  :p
Congrats!  I'd keep it original.  That looks like it's in fantastic condition and you won't find many like that in the next few years.


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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #368 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:53:40 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
The MCK-101 is an Ortek board, not a Chicony Oo .

 :eek: Hahaha it was the one from here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76927.msg1931900
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171994965970

Picture of front and back of the PCB:
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Akimbo said it was a rebranded 5161 though
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58598.msg1339490#msg1339490


Do the Ortek versions have NKRO?





The OEMMAX is definitely not a Chicony 5161, it's a branded keyboard with Ortek as OEM. Many keyboards resemble the 5161 but they're certainly not all the same. As far as I know the OEMMAX is always blue Alps, too. No idea about rollover, though.

Ah i understand, i thought it was a Chicony the whole time  :)) Do you know which adapter i should buy to use to test if it supports NKRO?
More than understandable, they look virtually identical xD . I think it's AT/XT compatible so a simple AT-to-PS/2 adapter should suffice if you have a PS/2 port which is fully compatible with NKRO, if you don't you'll need a converter :) . Most NKRO systems don't persist past 6KRO over USB as far as I know but it's certainly not impossible.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #369 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 13:01:01 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
The MCK-101 is an Ortek board, not a Chicony Oo .

 :eek: Hahaha it was the one from here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76927.msg1931900
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171994965970

Picture of front and back of the PCB:
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Akimbo said it was a rebranded 5161 though
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58598.msg1339490#msg1339490


Do the Ortek versions have NKRO?

Judging by the PCB, it looks like it doesn't use diodes in the keyboard matrix, so I'd say it likely does not have NKRO. I like the case design of the Ortek MCK-101. It's the only one of the bigfoot-style boards I know of that come very close to matching the exact look of the FAME TH-5539 I have, with some slight and significant differences.

One big one being the plastic bottom as opposed to the metal one on the FAME, and also the four indicator lights as opposed to the more conventional three lights that the FAME uses. The styling of the top bezel aside from that and from what I can make out from pictures show it to be very close to the FAME's. Both the Chicony 5161 and AT101 that I have are a bit different and have bezels that are less wide and thick as the FAME. I could always be wrong about the scale of the MCK, since pictures can be a bit deceiving, hehe.

The bottom of the MCK-101 is heavily reminiscent to the Dell AT101 in terms of screw mounting points and the tabs, though the AT-XT switch is obviously not found on the AT101!

I've been wanting one of these to have a plastic cousin to the FAME, but every time I see one, it goes for far too much than I'm willing to pay.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #370 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 13:35:42 »
Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
The MCK-101 is an Ortek board, not a Chicony Oo .

 :eek: Hahaha it was the one from here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76927.msg1931900
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171994965970

Picture of front and back of the PCB:
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Akimbo said it was a rebranded 5161 though
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58598.msg1339490#msg1339490


Do the Ortek versions have NKRO?





The OEMMAX is definitely not a Chicony 5161, it's a branded keyboard with Ortek as OEM. Many keyboards resemble the 5161 but they're certainly not all the same. As far as I know the OEMMAX is always blue Alps, too. No idea about rollover, though.

Ah i understand, i thought it was a Chicony the whole time  :)) Do you know which adapter i should buy to use to test if it supports NKRO?
More than understandable, they look virtually identical xD . I think it's AT/XT compatible so a simple AT-to-PS/2 adapter should suffice if you have a PS/2 port which is fully compatible with NKRO, if you don't you'll need a converter :) . Most NKRO systems don't persist past 6KRO over USB as far as I know but it's certainly not impossible.

Awesome thanks, luckily i have a PS/2 port, im going to buy this adapter, it looks like it should work well http://www.ebay.com/itm/231664941582 If the keyboard doesnt support NKRO ill buy this to use it over USB http://www.ebay.com/itm/381276560855

Mine doesnt say 5161C or 5161A but it does say MCK-101-A 1987, that means its a 5161C right?
The MCK-101 is an Ortek board, not a Chicony Oo .

 :eek: Hahaha it was the one from here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76927.msg1931900
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171994965970

Picture of front and back of the PCB:
Show Image

Show Image


Akimbo said it was a rebranded 5161 though
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58598.msg1339490#msg1339490


Do the Ortek versions have NKRO?

Judging by the PCB, it looks like it doesn't use diodes in the keyboard matrix, so I'd say it likely does not have NKRO. I like the case design of the Ortek MCK-101. It's the only one of the bigfoot-style boards I know of that come very close to matching the exact look of the FAME TH-5539 I have, with some slight and significant differences.

One big one being the plastic bottom as opposed to the metal one on the FAME, and also the four indicator lights as opposed to the more conventional three lights that the FAME uses. The styling of the top bezel aside from that and from what I can make out from pictures show it to be very close to the FAME's. Both the Chicony 5161 and AT101 that I have are a bit different and have bezels that are less wide and thick as the FAME. I could always be wrong about the scale of the MCK, since pictures can be a bit deceiving, hehe.

The bottom of the MCK-101 is heavily reminiscent to the Dell AT101 in terms of screw mounting points and the tabs, though the AT-XT switch is obviously not found on the AT101!

I've been wanting one of these to have a plastic cousin to the FAME, but every time I see one, it goes for far too much than I'm willing to pay.

Your right there doesnt seem to be any diodes, i guess no NKRO then.  The FAME is awesome though, metal all the way.  I like how the Ortek looks also but mine is so yellowed now that its almost orange, once i find some good lights to make an indoor retrobright setup i hope it will be looking brand new.  Im most likely going to put SKCL greens in it, but might put SKCM Oranges, SKCM Whites, or Matias Clicks in it, might try to get a non coiled cable for it also since those coiled cables are so bulky.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #372 on: Fri, 08 January 2016, 15:28:39 »

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #373 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 01:04:47 »
What custom beside the tmk alps that can use alps switch? really wanted to make a custom and btw what case that tmk pcb alps can use?
I really want to appreciate alps  :thumb:

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #374 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 01:07:45 »
Just got done desoldering these blue alps  ;D



I also soldered the diodes for my alps infinity today, soon these switches will be going in that.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #375 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 01:21:07 »
Just got done desoldering these blue alps  ;D

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I also soldered the diodes for my alps infinity today, soon these switches will be going in that.
Yummy blue alps waiting for mine soon  :p

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #376 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 06:11:51 »
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #377 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 06:19:20 »
Just got done desoldering these blue alps  ;D

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I also soldered the diodes for my alps infinity today, soon these switches will be going in that.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #378 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 11:39:39 »
Just got an FK-2001 yesterday for cheap and although I don't know which alps they are, it seems that they must be alps from everything I've read--and what's more important is that I like them.  Alps appreciated!

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« Reply #379 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 11:54:25 »
Just got an FK-2001 yesterday for cheap and although I don't know which alps they are, it seems that they must be alps from everything I've read--and what's more important is that I like them.  Alps appreciated!
White Alps, and they are usually really nice. Focus keyboards are great! Hope you enjoy it.
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« Reply #380 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 13:04:31 »
Just got an FK-2001 yesterday for cheap and although I don't know which alps they are, it seems that they must be alps from everything I've read--and what's more important is that I like them.  Alps appreciated!
The FK-2001 and Chicony KB-5161 are probably the two main contestants for board with most different types of switch in it xD . If it's white and specifically says "Alps" on it, it's white Alps, otherwise it's almost certainly a clone (although some clones were really good too). The FK-2001 is one of the best-looking boards I know, certainly the best-looking one I own. Congrats on the find! :)
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #381 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 14:14:04 »
Just got an FK-2001 yesterday for cheap and although I don't know which alps they are, it seems that they must be alps from everything I've read--and what's more important is that I like them.  Alps appreciated!
White Alps, and they are usually really nice. Focus keyboards are great! Hope you enjoy it.
It's quite nice.  Initially x and b both weren't working, mainly because I think the keyboard literally had been sitting in a storage unit for the last 10 years, but after a few repeated presses, both started working.  :thumb:  I basically rescued that board and I'm sure it will clean up really nice.  The switches are scratchy so that's going to have to be remedied too, but I think cleaning will go a long way too.
Just got an FK-2001 yesterday for cheap and although I don't know which alps they are, it seems that they must be alps from everything I've read--and what's more important is that I like them.  Alps appreciated!
The FK-2001 and Chicony KB-5161 are probably the two main contestants for board with most different types of switch in it xD . If it's white and specifically says "Alps" on it, it's white Alps, otherwise it's almost certainly a clone (although some clones were really good too). The FK-2001 is one of the best-looking boards I know, certainly the best-looking one I own. Congrats on the find! :)
What's funny is that right before I used the Focus, I used the 5161 and an NMB space invaders--and all of these for the first time!  It was really nice to feel all these very cool switches.  Now coming back to an M, I see where the inspiration came from and even how they have certain qualities I even like better.  :cool:

I guess I'm not going to know what's in my Focus until I start to clean it, but the Chicony was Badwrench's and in his words "White alps - switches are super crispy - best whites I have felt.".  What's interesting to me is that the Focus feels a little more crisp than the Chicony, but they're not as smooth because they're scratchy.

Overall, I really like the Alps switch even moreso than the Cherrys that I have and have felt.  I can see why Alps are a bit like the Mopar of the keyboard world.  :cool:

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #382 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 14:57:19 »
Just got an FK-2001 yesterday for cheap and although I don't know which alps they are, it seems that they must be alps from everything I've read--and what's more important is that I like them.  Alps appreciated!
If you post a picture of the outside of the board (or just describe it), we can guess pretty well.

Do you have one with the translucent plastic cover included?

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #383 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 16:54:18 »
So this is definitely going to be a cross post, I know it. Sorry for being AWOL by the way guys, just been keeping busy with other things. I'm trying not to focus TOO hard on keyboards right now to stave off wallet hack and try and reprioritize things in life. I won't ever leave this lovely scene though, but I might be a little more low key here and there. ^^



MEGA THANKS to Bromono and Alienman82 for this. Well, for the Hebrew caps anyway. Got them off of a distant cousin of my FAME, the APC TH-5539, which is just soooo much less of a board than the FAME.

But the caps were in amazing condition. So thanks Bro for shipping me the board free of charge, and thanks to you Alienman82 for passing on your first dibs to me.

Finally, my FAME is complete, and it will probably always be my favorite vintage Alps board.

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« Reply #384 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 17:18:27 »
So this is definitely going to be a cross post, I know it. Sorry for being AWOL by the way guys, just been keeping busy with other things. I'm trying not to focus TOO hard on keyboards right now to stave off wallet hack and try and reprioritize things in life. I won't ever leave this lovely scene though, but I might be a little more low key here and there. ^^

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MEGA THANKS to Bromono and Alienman82 for this. Well, for the Hebrew caps anyway. Got them off of a distant cousin of my FAME, the APC TH-5539, which is just soooo much less of a board than the FAME.

But the caps were in amazing condition. So thanks Bro for shipping me the board free of charge, and thanks to you Alienman82 for passing on your first dibs to me.

Finally, my FAME is complete, and it will probably always be my favorite vintage Alps board.

Woooow that looks awwsome!, never actually seen Hebrew caps before, excellent work man that definitely looks like a completed board  :thumb: All the work put into that board certainly shows.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #385 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 17:29:56 »
So this is definitely going to be a cross post, I know it. Sorry for being AWOL by the way guys, just been keeping busy with other things. I'm trying not to focus TOO hard on keyboards right now to stave off wallet hack and try and reprioritize things in life. I won't ever leave this lovely scene though, but I might be a little more low key here and there. ^^

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MEGA THANKS to Bromono and Alienman82 for this. Well, for the Hebrew caps anyway. Got them off of a distant cousin of my FAME, the APC TH-5539, which is just soooo much less of a board than the FAME.

But the caps were in amazing condition. So thanks Bro for shipping me the board free of charge, and thanks to you Alienman82 for passing on your first dibs to me.

Finally, my FAME is complete, and it will probably always be my favorite vintage Alps board.
Is it double shot hebrew bro?

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #386 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 17:39:29 »
So this is definitely going to be a cross post, I know it. Sorry for being AWOL by the way guys, just been keeping busy with other things. I'm trying not to focus TOO hard on keyboards right now to stave off wallet hack and try and reprioritize things in life. I won't ever leave this lovely scene though, but I might be a little more low key here and there. ^^

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MEGA THANKS to Bromono and Alienman82 for this. Well, for the Hebrew caps anyway. Got them off of a distant cousin of my FAME, the APC TH-5539, which is just soooo much less of a board than the FAME.

But the caps were in amazing condition. So thanks Bro for shipping me the board free of charge, and thanks to you Alienman82 for passing on your first dibs to me.

Finally, my FAME is complete, and it will probably always be my favorite vintage Alps board.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #387 on: Sat, 09 January 2016, 21:34:31 »
Just got an FK-2001 yesterday for cheap and although I don't know which alps they are, it seems that they must be alps from everything I've read--and what's more important is that I like them.  Alps appreciated!
If you post a picture of the outside of the board (or just describe it), we can guess pretty well.

Do you have one with the translucent plastic cover included?
Here's a twin of mine I found online.  Surprisingly, mine is only slightly dirtier than this one:


I didn't get the cover (owner didn't have it).  But I knocked the price down because of it.  :D

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #388 on: Sun, 10 January 2016, 01:45:11 »
http://imgur.com/ocpYhTu

My new Duck Orion V2 with SKCM Blue ALPS... I suppose I appreciate ALPS too!
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #389 on: Sun, 10 January 2016, 02:59:37 »
http://imgur.com/ocpYhTu

My new Duck Orion V2 with SKCM Blue ALPS... I suppose I appreciate ALPS too!
That's quite the board to own! I think I just missed the Orion V2 gb when I joined GeekHack otherwise I'd have my own.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #390 on: Sun, 10 January 2016, 04:07:24 »
Is it double shot hebrew bro?

Yep, double shots with pad printed Hebrew legends. No shine whatsoever, which is incredibly rare with ABS caps on vintages. So happy with them!

Woooow that looks awwsome!, never actually seen Hebrew caps before, excellent work man that definitely looks like a completed board  :thumb: All the work put into that board certainly shows.

Haha, thanks man! I thought I saw another Hebrew set, but it ended up being this exact same board, haha. I'm super happy with the look now. My FAME is complete, but that also sadly means that I probably will just keep it stowed away as a collection piece now. I have a fair amount of other blue Alps vintages to love on now, so the fame will just be my mantle piece now. :D


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Thanks for all the props, guys. It's definitely been christened my endgame blue Alps board, even after finding the Leading Edge DC-3014 and Focus FK-555 (soon), the FAME is actually a lot more rare than either of those two; this particular kind anyway! So it's nice to have something really unique and well-built as well as personalized. :D

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #391 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 01:05:33 »
Question for any Alps folks who may have compared modified clicky orange Alps with blue alps?  Do they feel close enough to be a poor man's blue alps?

I just installed some modified clicky orange Alps into a minitouch, pretty much exactly like CPTBadAss did: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71855.0, and it feels quite nice  :D



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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #392 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 02:14:19 »
Question for any Alps folks who may have compared modified clicky orange Alps with blue alps?  Do they feel close enough to be a poor man's blue alps?
They’re definitely different. Different spring and noticeably different click leaf. Same “switchplate” assembly and housing though.

I dunno about “poor man’s” – very good condition orange Alps switches are also very nice, and not all that easy to find.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #393 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 03:12:59 »
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I am in LOVE with my Apple //c Extended Memory keyboard. It uses Alps Amber switches, and I want to build it into a 60%-ish bluetooth keyboard, after I finish my Danger Zone 75%+1 custom keyboard. I have NEVER found a switch that feels better. I like Cherry/Gateron Blues... But WOW... Alps Ambers are a DREAM. If the Danger Zone keycap set were available as Alps compatible, I'd have ordered it that way, and splurged for a second Apple //c to salvage enough switches to use those. Alas... That keycap set requires MX compatible posts, and the //c is quite spendy these days. I'll be more than happy with a nice portable mechanical keyboard. I'll have the two push to toggle switches at the top act as power and a Number row/F row switch. I'll steal another Apple key so I can move [Esc] to where Reset is, and the [~`] key to where [Esc] is, so I have a proper modifier row. I can also steal an [Option] from another Apple keyboard with the same cap style. I know some would call it sacrilege, but I play Kerbal Space Program... [Control] is Throttle Down, and [Left Shift] is Throttle Up. I NEED to get [Caps Lock] and [Control] swapped, somehow. Maybe I'll just say screw it. [Caps Lock] is a toggle switch as well.

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My 75%+1 plates sitting on top of my Apple Extended Keyboard II. It's sooooooo yellow... I WANT an AEKII stuffed with Alps Ambers... Bestest switch ever!  :p :thumb:
"75% + 1" Keyboard with "Danger Zone" keycaps and magnetically detachable Number Pad. Dyed Gateron Blue switches with amber sub lighting. Blue anodized plate and wood trim. (Firmware in Progress)
Bluetooth Apple //c keyboard with Alps SKCM Amber Switches. (Build in Progress)

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #394 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 03:31:00 »
Amber Alps are a bit of an enigma, we still have no idea where they sit in the timeline. It's quite possible, but wholly unknown at the time, that they were Alps' first ever clicky switch. Have you tried blue Alps as well, and if so, how do they compare?
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #395 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 03:34:14 »
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I am in LOVE with my Apple //c Extended Memory keyboard. It uses Alps Amber switches, and I want to build it into a 60%-ish bluetooth keyboard, after I finish my Danger Zone 75%+1 custom keyboard. I have NEVER found a switch that feels better. I like Cherry/Gateron Blues... But WOW... Alps Ambers are a DREAM. If the Danger Zone keycap set were available as Alps compatible, I'd have ordered it that way, and splurged for a second Apple //c to salvage enough switches to use those. Alas... That keycap set requires MX compatible posts, and the //c is quite spendy these days. I'll be more than happy with a nice portable mechanical keyboard. I'll have the two push to toggle switches at the top act as power and a Number row/F row switch. I'll steal another Apple key so I can move [Esc] to where Reset is, and the [~`] key to where [Esc] is, so I have a proper modifier row. I can also steal an [Option] from another Apple keyboard with the same cap style. I know some would call it sacrilege, but I play Kerbal Space Program... [Control] is Throttle Down, and [Left Shift] is Throttle Up. I NEED to get [Caps Lock] and [Control] swapped, somehow. Maybe I'll just say screw it. [Caps Lock] is a toggle switch as well.

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My 75%+1 plates sitting on top of my Apple Extended Keyboard II. It's sooooooo yellow... I WANT an AEKII stuffed with Alps Ambers... Bestest switch ever!  :p :thumb:
Awesome where do you make that plates?
never heard of alps amber at all bro is it that "good" and do you ever use alps blue switch?

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #396 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 04:27:59 »
Amber Alps are a bit of an enigma, we still have no idea where they sit in the timeline. It's quite possible, but wholly unknown at the time, that they were Alps' first ever clicky switch. Have you tried blue Alps as well, and if so, how do they compare?
I think SKCL predate SKCM a bit. That is, linear green Alps. Some of these have a black switchplate, same as tee mount Alps switches.

First SKCM switches were blue and "ivory". Someone dug up an early Alps catalog listing those two. Ivory = the tactile switch before orange Alps. The only source I know for them is certain Canon typewriters, and I’ve never seen them in especially pristine condition. Gray double-actuating linear switches are from the same era.

After that I’m not sure of the precise timeline, but among SKCM/SKCL switches with "tall" switchplate assemblies, there are brown and orange tactile switches, cream heavy linear switches, and amber clicky switches.

Perhaps amber switches were first intended for spacebars but nobody was buying them for that, so Apple bought a batch on the cheap?

Omron clicky switches came in amber and blue variants, roughly corresponding to amber and blue Alps, so presumably there was a point where Alps had both of those available. Soft clicky switches from Cherry, SMK, and NEC all also copied the blue color.


Then later Alps switched to short switchplates, in a generation including white clicky, salmon (and later black) tactile, green tactile, yellow linear, and cream quiet tactile switches.

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how do they compare?
Amber switches are quite a bit stiffer than blue switches, stiffness similar to early clicky white Alps or even slightly stiffer, with a much snappier and louder click. Blue switches are elegant and understated, amber switches get up in your face.

People who like white Alps, Matias clicky, Model F, amber Omrons, or Cherry MX green would probably like amber Alps. People who like blue Alps might or might not.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #397 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 04:58:30 »
Amber Alps are a bit of an enigma, we still have no idea where they sit in the timeline. It's quite possible, but wholly unknown at the time, that they were Alps' first ever clicky switch. Have you tried blue Alps as well, and if so, how do they compare?
I think SKCL predate SKCM a bit. That is, linear green Alps. Some of these have a black switchplate, same as tee mount Alps switches.

First SKCM switches were blue and "ivory". Someone dug up an early Alps catalog listing those two. Ivory = the tactile switch before orange Alps. The only source I know for them is certain Canon typewriters, and I’ve never seen them in especially pristine condition. Gray double-actuating linear switches are from the same era.

After that I’m not sure of the precise timeline, but among SKCM/SKCL switches with "tall" switchplate assemblies, there are brown and orange tactile switches, cream heavy linear switches, and amber clicky switches.

Perhaps amber switches were first intended for spacebars but nobody was buying them for that, so Apple bought a batch on the cheap?

Omron clicky switches came in amber and blue variants, roughly corresponding to amber and blue Alps, so presumably there was a point where Alps had both of those available. Soft clicky switches from Cherry, SMK, and NEC all also copied the blue color.
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Then later Alps switched to short switchplates, in a generation including white clicky, salmon (and later black) tactile, green tactile, yellow linear, and cream quiet tactile switches.

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how do they compare?
Amber switches are quite a bit stiffer than blue switches, stiffness similar to early clicky white Alps or even slightly stiffer, with a much snappier and louder click. Blue switches are elegant and understated, amber switches get up in your face.

People who like white Alps, Matias clicky, Model F, amber Omrons, or Cherry MX green would probably like amber Alps. People who like blue Alps might or might not.
SKCL Green were first yeah, but they're not clicky ;) . I've done a fair amount of research into the Alps timeline for several upcoming videos, including correspondence with Daniel B. Truth is we have a pretty good idea now, but rare/obscure switches like SKCM Amber and SKCM Cream are simply not well known enough to place properly into the main timeline yet. We need a lot more data before we can place them, and it's unlikely we'll ever get it.

Amber Alps sound intriguing though. Much louder than blue and white Alps? Colour me intrigued :) .
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #398 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 08:10:10 »
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I am in LOVE with my Apple //c Extended Memory keyboard. It uses Alps Amber switches, and I want to build it into a 60%-ish bluetooth keyboard, after I finish my Danger Zone 75%+1 custom keyboard. I have NEVER found a switch that feels better. I like Cherry/Gateron Blues... But WOW... Alps Ambers are a DREAM. If the Danger Zone keycap set were available as Alps compatible, I'd have ordered it that way, and splurged for a second Apple //c to salvage enough switches to use those. Alas... That keycap set requires MX compatible posts, and the //c is quite spendy these days. I'll be more than happy with a nice portable mechanical keyboard. I'll have the two push to toggle switches at the top act as power and a Number row/F row switch. I'll steal another Apple key so I can move [Esc] to where Reset is, and the [~`] key to where [Esc] is, so I have a proper modifier row. I can also steal an [Option] from another Apple keyboard with the same cap style. I know some would call it sacrilege, but I play Kerbal Space Program... [Control] is Throttle Down, and [Left Shift] is Throttle Up. I NEED to get [Caps Lock] and [Control] swapped, somehow. Maybe I'll just say screw it. [Caps Lock] is a toggle switch as well.

Have you seen this? http://retroconnector.com/products/apple-ii/keyboard-shield-for-apple-iic-or-iic/

I made one on an experiment board and just used his firmware on a Teensy++, worked like a charm.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #399 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 09:07:17 »
Amber Alps are a bit of an enigma, we still have no idea where they sit in the timeline. It's quite possible, but wholly unknown at the time, that they were Alps' first ever clicky switch. Have you tried blue Alps as well, and if so, how do they compare?

They Actuate at around 80 g whereas Blues are around 65 g, they are much sharper in tactility. I don't know if I'd call them "louder" per se, but their click is certainly not as refined as the click that emanates from a blue SKCM switch. :P

The Ambers kind of reminded me of a socket wrench, that ratcheting action. I suppose they were a -tad- bit louder, but their click in general was just kind of underwhelming to me.

I wouldn't be surprised if they came before blues.

The fact that the Apple IIc had both SKCM Amber and SKCM Blue (in replacement boards) and that it is so far the only documented source of blues with the ALPS stamping on the top housing... Is very intriguing.

Could ambers have come before blues? Possibly, but they possibly might not have just the same. The strange lack of a bottom lip on the amber's click leaf is a little suspicious, but could it mean that it was a first attempt, or just a revision or experimentation?