dyesub 104/87 group round 1

[imsto]

dyesub 104/87 keys available now

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89$ if up to 30 orders
shipping 15$by postoffice and 20$ by fedex.
for every additional set add 5$ for the shipping
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86$ for one set
76$ if up to 30 orders
shipping 15$by postoffice and 20$ by fedex.
for every additional set add 5$ for the shipping
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the first 10 buyers will have a free custom esc
payment: imsto@163.com (imsto@163.com) do leave all the infomation(ID on Geekhack address etc...)and the phone number if need been sent by Fedex.

stop accept orders at 25.12.2011

blue, red, green fonts available.

reaper 87 blue*1
keyboardlover 104 blue*1

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[reaper]

Finally!  I'm in for a set of 87 keys (blue fonts).  Thanks imsto.

[tsangan]

In for at least 1 set, possibly 2

I think the blue on white would look good on the blue aluminum casing ;o

Got a sample of the blue? I wonder if its a dark blue or light blue

[Kisakuku]

I'll take a set, PM in a minute or two.

[alaricljs]

Damnit.... those are purty

[tsangan]

come on 30 sets!!! price drop!!!

[demik]

oh, definitely getting a red on white for my poker

on monday tho lol, spent too much this week.

[Kisakuku]

So is the font going to be like on the 104 key picture or the 37 key picture?

[tsangan]

So is the font going to be like on the 104 key picture or the 37 key picture?

lol i just noticed the difference

[imsto]

they have the same fonts, but the position of the letters are different  so which position would u like?

[7bit]

they have the same fonts, but the position of the letters are different  so which position would u like?

Make them off-center. Every corner is fine as long as you don't copy my BIANCO style and make them centered!

:-)

ps: Why are your group buys so straight forward and mine seem like chaos?

[byFd]

Make them off-center. Every corner is fine as long as you don't copy my BIANCO style and make them centered!

:-)

ps: Why are your group buys so straight forward and mine seem like chaos?

probably because here we have like 6 options and at group buy 4 there are a bazillion and noone knows which where cut and what not and what colors and wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[alaricljs]

Come now... choices beget chaos.

imsto, can we see a blue sample?

[keyboardlover]

I'm in for one 104-key set, blue lettering.

[imsto]

ha  what is BIANCO style?

[imsto]

I will put the blue samples tomorrow.

[imsto]

Make them off-center. Every corner is fine as long as you don't copy my BIANCO style and make them centered!

:-)

ps: Why are your group buys so straight forward and mine seem like chaos?

straight?  mine'd been always massed up...

[demik]

I like top left

[jinhan108]

Which fonts will they be using? The 104 key fonts are different from the 37 key ones.

The italicized fonts look larger too..

[imsto]

the font in the first pic

[imsto]

I think the arrews should be like the 37 keys, the triangle is better.

[N8N]

Maybe I missed a previous thread about these, but are the caps going to be ABS, PBT, other?

[seth]

how thick are these key caps?  could you upload a photo of flipped keycaps? and an approxmate measuremeant on thickness would be great too.  Thanks!

[imsto]

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[cyclonechuah]

Maybe I missed a previous thread about these, but are the caps going to be ABS, PBT, other?

Dye Sublimation printing method are only limited to PBT.

ABS are not capable of doing Dye Sublimation.

[byFd]

omg,
please tell me that i can get the ones with purple text!!!!

[imsto]

things geting better...
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[RiGS]

Can't wait to see those Cherry profile keys.

[byFd]

i want the 7 with the cloverleaf!

[demik]

Looks like an L to me

[byFd]

lol.
i guess it's upside down like some of the other keycaps clearly are.

[demik]

I turned the picture around and it looks too awkward to be a 7.

Also, it also looks to be the logo for lucky bearings. Seeing as there are other skate brands scattered around.

http://www.outlookskates.com/StickerLucky1.jpg

Yup!

[byFd]

lol. then i dont want >D

[RiGS]

^Your observation skills suck if you have to ask this.

[dorkvader]

^Your observation skills suck if you have to ask this.

True. It's hard to believe he's #1

I will hopefully be ordering a set in January.

[keyboardlover]

^your observation skills suck if you have to ask this.

Qft!

[imsto]

yes, it's thicker than filcoducky keycaps
are these noppoo ones?

[imsto]

lol  哈哈

[RiGS]

The second one has 1,5mm thickness and cherry profile, and imsto currently not taking orders on those.

[RiGS]

He told me.

[inaneframe]

Rational side of my brain is still not convinced of the importance of the thickness of keys.  These are keycaps, not tires.

You could have poorly formed plastics made thicker to make up for the crap composition and then you can have extremely well formed plastics that are able to be made thin.

Until further information is available, I don't even pretend to believe the "thicker keys = higher quality" argument.  Sounds nigh close to fud to me.

[inaneframe]

I'm sorry for the whole human race if logic is now merely "trolling."

[imsto]

I am sure, the red one is from KBC.
there are two kinds of profile now    one is the same as ducky,DAS,Ficlo
the other is cherry thick profile,  just the same as the jelly keycaps.

[RiGS]

It's the logic of this that worries me.  If it's thicker than Filco/Ducky then they aren't your typical KBC PBT keys.

A pic of a key turned upside down would answer this question.

I believe what he meant to say is the Cartman key on your picture is thicker than the OEM one.

I am sure, the red one is from KBC.
there are two kinds of profile now    one is the same as ducky,DAS,Ficlo
the other is cherry thick profile,  just the same as the jelly keycaps.

See Sherlock? I told you so. Watson did all the work for you in your subforum.

[RiGS]

Check the rounded corners as a hint.

[alaricljs]

In other words are these KBC I or KBC II?

One of the problems I'm seeing is you keep posting a pic of the nice thick keycaps and saying 'are these the thick keycaps' directly afterward.  And yes, the keycaps in your pic (referred to by the word these) are the thick keycaps.  I think you need to work on your pronoun usage.  Even when you asked the right way directly referring to the OP keyset, you follow with the wrong way.

[RiGS]

Sherlock, do you see any difference in key profile here?

[Boyiee]

I want to order a set but after these last couple pages of things I don't understand I'm not so sure anymore.

[RiGS]

I want to order a set but after these last couple pages of things I don't understand I'm not so sure anymore.

If you don't mind paying $120 USD for a set of keys, then you can order confidently from imsto. Check the opening post for reference and pictures. Those key have the exact same shape and thickness as your Filco keys.

[alaricljs]

I have a set of PBT caps in this thickness, from Ducky so the molds are very similar.  No disappointment here coming from a Noppoo with the super thick POMs.  I bought the PBTs to replace my Filco ABS which were a disappointment.

[Boyiee]

If you don't mind paying $120 USD for a set of keys, then you can order confidently from imsto. Check the opening post for reference and pictures. Those key have the exact same shape and thickness as your Filco keys.

I didn't want to spend that much but they do look cool. My first time replacing keycaps maybe I'll just go with cheaper ones from WASD. The white with red font would look amazing though.

[Boyiee]

Oh those are nice. Guess I should just be patient a little longer.

[hazeluff]

Also a group buy floating around here somewhere with Signature Doubleshots if you can stand those.  Actually the KBDmania/OTD/Deskthority guys do better with their Signature Plastic group key buy quality.  I think it's because they know what they are doing.

Rebel Alert Group Buy At Deskthority.net
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ISO9000 is taught using Manga in Asia
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Ripster why are you posting "What if a high school female baseball team manager reads Drucker's 'Management'" everywhere?

[dorkvader]

I want to order a set but after these last couple pages of things I don't understand I'm not so sure anymore.

I'd say you shouldn't let thickness be an issue for you. Sure, you can get thicker ones, but it'snot really necessary. I have WYSE thick doubleshots, and WYSE thin ones. While I sort of prefer the thick ones, there really isn't a difference typing on them. From a physcs perspective, you might end up with different resonances when you bottom out the key, but this shouldn't be as issue for anyone.

Me, I want a White/green sphercial PBT set in Dvorak, and when the closest I can get to that happens, (likely all but spherical) I'll wait until there are some options (or at least reviews) and then go for it.

[imsto]

I'd wait until Imsto confirms it one way or the other.

Or better yet always include a picture of the bottom of a key when selling them.

Like these Vortex dyesub keys that iMav announced - I am ASSUMING they are thin but ARE THEY?
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And the big question of course is whether the new thick Leopold keys will be dyesub or lasered.  Any insights there Imsto?

the Keys are as thick as the red keycaps with KBC logo. I have not idea about Leopold new keys....

[hazeluff]

Reading Peter Drucker could solve all Group Key Buy problems.

I could probably apply it to finding a girlfriend too. I must get this book...

[hazeluff]

Works better if you are Japanese and looking for a Japanese GF.

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Hey, the last pic looks STAGED!

The attachments seem to be broken. = /

[hazeluff]

bummer.

the funniest one....

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/japanese/74a3/action/213d376/

Totally need one of those。And a girlfriend.

[imsto]

So they ARE  standard KBC PBT keys Ver. 1?

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Thanks for confirming.

yes

[keyboardlover]

^ those look pretty thin. :\

[Mysteric]

Me wants PBT 105 key UK ISO keycaps (Doubt it will ever happen though )

[dorkvader]

Me wants PBT 105 key UK ISO keycaps (Doubt it will ever happen though )

I bet it will. I predict 2011 will be the year of PBT
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Edit:
I predict 2012 will be the year of PBT

[Kisakuku]

I bet it will. I predict 2011 will be the year of PBT

Six days left for your prediction to come true.

[reaper]

I bet it will. I predict 2011 will be the year of PBT

You mean 2012?  =P

[dorkvader]

You mean 2012?  =P

What year is it again?

Yes, I meant 2012.

[imsto]

Thanks for confirming.

I've been seeing a LOT of these PBT keys lately - same molds except sometimes the mark isn't there.

Any idea why?

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?25167-No-Shift-Sherlock-New-Leopolds-Thick-PBT-Keys-Sherlock-Observations&p=478015&viewfull=1#post478015

they all came from the orginal KBC mold. there rabbit,the Chinese flag are dyed and engraved keycaps of KBC white and yellow   keycaps.
the Mr Mao is laserd to blue KBC R4 keycaps.
so the white engraved, blue Mr Mao, rabbit, the red flag they all the same.

[dorkvader]

Damn Dork, vader.  You can't even plagarize my predictions correctly.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?24018-Dude-what-are-your-2012-keyboard-predictions

So anyway.  It's time to timestamp this prediction before everybody starts saying "Oh, I KNEW that already".  Verrrrrry annoying thing you see when you make predictions on the internet.

"2012 Will Be The Year Of Thick PBT Keys".

I don't care what those Sherlock wannabees are saying in my Sherlock thread.

"Post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy. I'll start taking you seriously when you quit committing crimes against logic. In all seriousness, though I didn't read your prediction beforehand. It's not unheard of for two different people, presented with the same data, to make the same predictions based on it. It's all very logical, infact.

Ripster: people who agree with you aren't, necessarily, plagiarizing your ideas.

I'm done derailing this topic. If ripster has any response to me, I recommend he PM me, and open a topic in his subforum about it where we can discuss it there.

[RiGS]

they all came from the orginal KBC mold. there rabbit,the Chinese flag are dyed and engraved keycaps of KBC white and yellow   keycaps.
the Mr Mao is laserd to blue KBC R4 keycaps.
so the white engraved, blue Mr Mao, rabbit, the red flag they all the same.

That's genius!

[redxiii]

87 red *1, 87 green *1

[reaper]

So the first dye-sub from imsto showed up last night...







I'm on his second group buy also so I can compare both.

[emptyk]

reaper, the matching color in the second picture is hella super sick dude.

[reaper]

reaper, the matching color in the second picture is hella super sick dude.

Thanks! I like it too but thought I threw red in the mix. =D

Here's a full shot of it:

[emptyk]

man, that looks awesome.  sometimes the simple subtle approach works best.  very nice.  makes me want to buy one of those compact keyboards, even though it would be totally impractical for my needs.

[telepete]

Oh man, those are really nice.