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Americans, if you could live in any country where would you want to live?
tp4tissue:
--- Quote from: TomahawkLabs on Mon, 10 March 2025, 20:48:36 ---As an American who hasn't really looked Australia or NZ.
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In the event of collapse, The Safest Place to be will be CHINA.
Brand new infrastructure, rail connected.
Massive population, manpower to handle collapse.
Highly educated, Ideal social order/ class system.
Docile, indoctrinated to OBEY-the-State, very important, not a vacation, this is collapse..
Remember, when it hits the fan, you need BODIES with Hands to Lift Heavy things, and turn screw drivers.
America can not by its very nature handle collapse, Social order rapidly decays as the population is #1 Uneducated, #2 Unruly, #3 Culturally Sociopathic (Individualism).
Americans all own guns, many will become Marauders.
Crumbling infrastructure, heavily degraded rail system, low population density, no heavy forge, BUYS most manufactured goods with MONEY, Money that will become worthless during a collapse.
Living space organized around extremely inefficient personal gasoline vehicles.
You either have the muscles to do it yourself or die, because no one will sell you anything, no one can.
tp4tissue:
The CEOs have these stupid fantasies like, Buying up Hawaii/ New Zealand.
Hrrm, ok, so you're going to be a tech billionaire, which makes you a natural enemy of collapse society, as they view you as the cause, move to a foreign place during collapse when the billionaire status is worthless as facebook doesn't exist anymore.
So, this "group" is going to spend 100% of its time defending the billionaire's mansion? Tech billionaire just assumes that they know how to run violent militia, jungle guerilla group ?
noisyturtle:
--- Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 March 2025, 22:33:09 ---Tech billionaire just assumes that they know how to run violent militia, jungle guerilla group ?
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Are you joking? Throwing infinite money at your problems is very much the easiest and most brainless solution. Controlling a for-hire militia is one of the simplest things for someone with mass disposable income to do. If they turn on you, they get no more money. Even the stupidest puppets are not that stupid. Not even wild animals are that dumb.
tp4tissue:
Money is for a working society.
It's not a thing in collapse. It's extremely difficult to run a militia.
noisyturtle:
--- Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 March 2025, 23:32:26 ---Money is for a working society.
It's not a thing in collapse. It's extremely difficult to run a militia.
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At the risk of falling into a tp pit and derailing the entire thread: Take the example of a tiger in captivity. There are thousands of tigers in captivity that could easily tear your face off in an instant, and yet we only hear about this happening perhaps once every few years. Meanwhile, wild tigers kill humans regularly, there is a monthly tally for it. Why do you think that is? A tiger has no concept of money or material wealth. What they do understand is protection, a roof over their head, and a reliable source of food with no competition. That is all any struggling human wants as well. There is no reason for them to turn on their source of comfort so long as they are treated well, unless it is a coup to swap out the figurehead.
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