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Offline Rhienfo

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How hard do you all type?
« on: Wed, 08 May 2024, 22:56:02 »
Ever since I got my hhkb, I've noticed that I've been typing like, way less hard than I used too, you would think I was using 100g springs with how hard it was, but I don't know it just happened suddenly when I switched off it to my mx board and realised that.

I think it might've happened because of how tiring it was with how I used to type on my hhkb, cause it's got that steel plate so when you type really hard it feels so stiff, so maybe my hands adjusted subconsciously so It wouldn't be as harsh or tiring. The only other thing I could think of is that because the actuation of the topre switches and it being tactile, but I have used tactiles that are like topre in terms of you push the switch and it bottoms out and I still typed pretty hard with them.

How hard do you all type, would like to know?
 

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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 13:03:40 »
I can only shake my head whenever I see/hear "This board/switch/keycaps will behave so and so IF you bottom out".

IF?! It is beyond my reality how a human being can type without bottoming out?! I type all the way trough he board. I have big hands, am a big dude with some muscles on me. I am literally afraid of using FR4 or Carbon fiber plates because I think I will break them or at least bend them beyond repair.

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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 13:17:38 »
I can touch type without bottoming out, and usually do, but I always use clicky keyboards or at least tactile ones.

Linear switches seem creepy to me, although I do appreciate their silence.

That said, my mood is a big determinate of how hard I type, and a significant part of the time I am pounding the keys. And I feel certain that earlier in the day when I am rested I type better and gentler, and by the end of the day I am being more sloppy and striking harder.

That is probably why I like ancient IBM iron so much - it makes little difference when you double (or triple) the force that you are using.
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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 15:00:38 »
Depends on my board. My home board with SA keycaps and Zealios I beat the piss out of. I am not sure why but it feels like I press very hard and loud. Maybe intentional since I enjoy the sound.

At work I use Alps Damped Creams and I don't feel like I press hard on them, very quiet.
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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 10 May 2024, 01:07:43 »
I can only shake my head whenever I see/hear "This board/switch/keycaps will behave so and so IF you bottom out".

IF?! It is beyond my reality how a human being can type without bottoming out?! I type all the way trough he board. I have big hands, am a big dude with some muscles on me. I am literally afraid of using FR4 or Carbon fiber plates because I think I will break them or at least bend them beyond repair.

I also don't know how people consistently bottom out, I have to intentionally press the key in order to not bottom out. Also fr4 and carbon fibre will probably never break while typing even if you are typing really hard.

I can touch type without bottoming out, and usually do, but I always use clicky keyboards or at least tactile ones.

Linear switches seem creepy to me, although I do appreciate their silence.

That said, my mood is a big determinate of how hard I type, and a significant part of the time I am pounding the keys. And I feel certain that earlier in the day when I am rested I type better and gentler, and by the end of the day I am being more sloppy and striking harder.

That is probably why I like ancient IBM iron so much - it makes little difference when you double (or triple) the force that you are using.


the mood thing is interesting, I definitely feel like I type harder when I am more frustrated I had never noticed that.

Depends on my board. My home board with SA keycaps and Zealios I beat the piss out of. I am not sure why but it feels like I press very hard and loud. Maybe intentional since I enjoy the sound.

At work I use Alps Damped Creams and I don't feel like I press hard on them, very quiet.

I think it could be the tactility of the zealios that gives the impression that you are typing harder, because those switches you always have to follow through with the tactility til you bottom out. Or as you said it could be the sound making you press it harder.
 

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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 10 May 2024, 08:52:51 »
I feel as if I am compelled to press the switch harder because I actively enjoy the sound of the keycap bottoming out. With the AEK Alps board, the switch has a dampening rubber so even if I am pressing hard the audible bottom out is muted.

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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 10 May 2024, 09:06:11 »
I like 35g Kailh Chocs. I try to type just hard enough for them to depress, but sometimes it's somewhat harder.
I also tried 20g to see if I could type faster by using less force, but it was harder for me. Maybe with practice it'll be faster.

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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 10 May 2024, 12:55:40 »
I type fairly soft, as in i won't consistently bottom out 60g linears if I'm trying to type fast. If someone asks for a typing test I generally type a bit harder than I usually do in order to get the sound properly through the mic. I do bottom out while using tactiles tho bc it's a lot harder to maintain light typing with it, but I still wouldn't call it hard typing. I use linears 95% of the time though.

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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 13 May 2024, 07:10:41 »
I don't intentionally bottom out on every keystroke, but it happens frequently and I make no effort to stop it. When I'm typing at my best speed I think tend to bottom out more.
« Last Edit: Mon, 13 May 2024, 07:12:36 by Prince Valiant »

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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 13 May 2024, 09:48:56 »
I type quite firmly, certainly enough that I prefer heavy springs in all switch types, and light linears actively annoy me.  While technically I suppose it's a little more physical effort, there is a very low cognitive load to simply mashing hard enough that any working keyboard ever made will register the keystrokes. 

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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 13 May 2024, 11:54:35 »
This is going to sound strange, but it depends on background noise. The noisier the space is, the easier it is for me to type harder without noticing it. Headbanging with headphones on almost always means button mashing.

That said, I find that I type lighter after using linear switches for a while, even at equivalent spring weight. Something about tactile switches makes me wanna mash.
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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 13 May 2024, 11:58:56 »
That said, my mood is a big determinate of how hard I type, and a significant part of the time I am pounding the keys. And I feel certain that earlier in the day when I am rested I type better and gentler, and by the end of the day I am being more sloppy and striking harder.

I can't agree with this more. Maybe my previous point about "background noise and aggressive music" is maybe a symptom of what you're describing. I certainly type lighter in the morning, after a shower, with a tea, listening to relaxing music. Typing is inherently a sensory experience, albeit a subtle one. I care more about my typing posture and key pressure when I'm more willing to monitor and adapt to subtle sensory stimuli. I care more about speed and "just getting it done" when I couldn't care less about 'enjoying the force curve' or whatever.
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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 14 May 2024, 07:17:50 »
I like tactile or clicky switches that are on the medium-heavy side (e.g., 55g Topre, Salmon Alps), and compared to some keyboard enthusiasts I see on YouTube, I feel like I type kind or hard.

However, my coworkers who largely use $10 rubber dome over membrane keyboards generally type much harder. I think using keyboards for so long that allow actuation partway through the keystroke has lightened my typing style. People who are used to cheap rubber domes have no choice but to bottom out, and therefore unconsciously absolutely mash every key to prevent missed keystrokes. Sometimes when I have to type on someone else's keyboard, I find that I occasionally don't press hard enough for a key to register.

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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 14 May 2024, 09:38:00 »
Ever since I got my hhkb, I've noticed that I've been typing like, way less hard than I used too, you would think I was using 100g springs with how hard it was, but I don't know it just happened suddenly when I switched off it to my mx board and realised that.

I think it might've happened because of how tiring it was with how I used to type on my hhkb, cause it's got that steel plate so when you type really hard it feels so stiff, so maybe my hands adjusted subconsciously so It wouldn't be as harsh or tiring. The only other thing I could think of is that because the actuation of the topre switches and it being tactile, but I have used tactiles that are like topre in terms of you push the switch and it bottoms out and I still typed pretty hard with them.

How hard do you all type, would like to know?
isnt hhkb plastic though? realforce are steel plate
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Re: How hard do you all type?
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 14 May 2024, 22:22:35 »
Ever since I got my hhkb, I've noticed that I've been typing like, way less hard than I used too, you would think I was using 100g springs with how hard it was, but I don't know it just happened suddenly when I switched off it to my mx board and realised that.

I think it might've happened because of how tiring it was with how I used to type on my hhkb, cause it's got that steel plate so when you type really hard it feels so stiff, so maybe my hands adjusted subconsciously so It wouldn't be as harsh or tiring. The only other thing I could think of is that because the actuation of the topre switches and it being tactile, but I have used tactiles that are like topre in terms of you push the switch and it bottoms out and I still typed pretty hard with them.

How hard do you all type, would like to know?
isnt hhkb plastic though? realforce are steel plate

Yeah it is actually didn't know that, assumed it was steel like the realforce, maybe the stiffness comes from how the tactility is in topre + integrated plate + how hard I was typing, that's what I'm thinking.