Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 03 July 2020, 14:56:58
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Hello everyone! We are Hephaestus Works, a brand new studio in the community! While this is our first official designing venture we've been in the community for a number of years and thus have a good idea of what makes a keyboard a good one. With that out of the way I'm excited to present to you our first project:
Nasu
SALE INFO
Please join our discord!!!
Date of sale: 10/07/2021
Time of sale: 20:00 GMT+1
Number of boards:250
Style of sale: FCFS
Hosted on: Keebwerk website
Rules of the sale:
STRICTLY 1 board per peson.
A violation of that rule will result in all the persons orders being cancelled.
That is done to ensure a fair chance for everyone to get their hands on a Nasu.
You can add as many extras as you like.
Pricing:
Base kit: 335€
Anodized Alu top and bottom piece
Anodized alu plate
Polished and PVD coated brass weight
PCB
Packaging and screws
Brass kit: 360€
Anodized Alu top and bottom piece
Polished and PVD coated brass plate
Polished and PVD coated brass weight
PCB
Packaging and screws
*Note: You can exchange the alu plate of the base kit for a POM one if you do not wish to have an alu one
Optionals:
E-white: +20€ per piece
Extra PCB: 45€
Additional plates:
Leaf spring aluminium: 28€
Leaf spring brass (polished and pvd coated): 50€
POM (No leaf spring): 20€
(https://i.postimg.cc/3wnzsDcY/leaf-spring.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/6pVkhPV7/POM.png)
Please join our discord!!!
(https://i.postimg.cc/d1h3HVss/discord-logo.jpg) (https://discord.gg/afAu9ZyEJk)
Date of sale: 10/07/2021
Time of sale: 20:00 GMT+1
Number of boards:250
Style of sale: FCFS
Hosted on: Keebwerk website
Rules of the sale:
STRICTLY 1 board per peson.
A violation of that rule will result in all the persons orders being cancelled.
That is done to ensure a fair chance for everyone to get their hands on a Nasu.
You can add as many extras as you like.
Pricing:
Base kit: 335€
Anodized Alu top and bottom piece
Anodized alu plate
Polished and PVD coated brass weight
PCB
Packaging and screws
Brass kit: 360€
Anodized Alu top and bottom piece
Polished and PVD coated brass plate
Polished and PVD coated brass weight
PCB
Packaging and screws
*Note: You can exchange the alu plate of the base kit for a POM one if you do not wish to have an alu one
Optionals:
E-white: +20€ per piece
Extra PCB: 45€
Additional plates:
Leaf spring aluminium: 28€
Leaf spring brass (polished and pvd coated): 50€
POM (No leaf spring): 20€
(https://i.postimg.cc/3wnzsDcY/leaf-spring.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/6pVkhPV7/POM.png)
Color Samples
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First prototype
(https://i.postimg.cc/1Xjn6LkQ/IMG-20201112-220006-913.jpg)
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Second prototype
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJzDvTbg/IMG-6554.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhcxHWvy/IMG-6573.jpg)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/DZxc5P2n/IMG-6591.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPXQPP7M/IMG-6595.jpg)
Renders
(https://i.postimg.cc/ydBW3Ww2/nasuwb.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wvW4RR1B/PUTAI2-NNASU.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPnpPnHr/PUTAINNASU.png)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/kGYxyxC2/lateral-purple.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zBnyDDY2/double-angled-keebs.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/6Q47SLjX/double-lateral.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QChHFLX8/double-top.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rFgttp0v/lateral-black.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/C5ksgpcw/top-light.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1Xjn6LkQ/IMG-20201112-220006-913.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMhtB8F7/IMG-20201113-112617.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LsDsLcPb/IMG-20201113-120701.jpg)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/BnwgNhQB/IMG-20201207-154957.jpg)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/zGf7Cm5f/IMG-20201207-155140.jpg)
Second prototype
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJzDvTbg/IMG-6554.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhcxHWvy/IMG-6573.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/5ytsMkPX/IMG-6577.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wbh5WCFK/IMG-6582.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZxc5P2n/IMG-6591.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPXQPP7M/IMG-6595.jpg)
Renders
(https://i.postimg.cc/ydBW3Ww2/nasuwb.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wvW4RR1B/PUTAI2-NNASU.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPnpPnHr/PUTAINNASU.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fR9xxtrb/font-top-purple-1.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGYxyxC2/lateral-purple.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zBnyDDY2/double-angled-keebs.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/6Q47SLjX/double-lateral.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QChHFLX8/double-top.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rFgttp0v/lateral-black.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/C5ksgpcw/top-light.png)
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Design Elements
Nasu uses Yuktsi's ever so popular Alice layout. With that said it was designed as a more modern approach to the classic Korean keyboard design. It utilizes a seamless design thus ensuring a clean and simple look and simplifies the process of anodizing. Additionally the sides are inspired by the OTD Koala keyboard as they are my personal favorite type of keyboard sides. All these factors combined make for a minimalistic and elegant keyboard that reminds of a simpler time in keyboard design.
Specifications
Typing angle: 6°
Materials offered: Aluminium(6061),PVD coated brass(for the weight)
Plate materials: Aluminium, Brass, POM
Colors: Black,Silver,E-White,Deep Red,Navy Blue,Deep Purple
Front height: 19mm
Mounting: Gasket mounting using 16, 40 shore A silicone strips with adhesive backing
Connectivity: Custom PCB which uses ai03's unified daughterboard (PCB designed by Yiancar), QMK will be supported
Weight: ~2,3kg
Estimated Price: 350€
Materials offered: Aluminium(6061),PVD coated brass(for the weight)
Plate materials: Aluminium, Brass, POM
Colors: Black,Silver,E-White,Deep Red,Navy Blue,Deep Purple
Front height: 19mm
Mounting: Gasket mounting using 16, 40 shore A silicone strips with adhesive backing
Connectivity: Custom PCB which uses ai03's unified daughterboard (PCB designed by Yiancar), QMK will be supported
Weight: ~2,3kg
Estimated Price: 350€
Manufacturing and Vendors
I am very glad to announce that the board will be run through and handled by the amazing people over at keebwerk (https://www.keebwerk.com/). By using the keebwerk configurator the user will be able to fully customize their board by picking any color they desire as well as add switches and stabs to their order
Q&A
Q:Why the name Nasu?
A:Nasu means eggplant. The reason behind it is that eggplants are cool, tasty and everything sounds better in Japanese.
Q:How many units will be produced?
A:TBD
Q:When will this happen?
A:Current timeline is 1.5-2 months after IC release (keep in mind this could change at any moment)
A:Nasu means eggplant. The reason behind it is that eggplants are cool, tasty and everything sounds better in Japanese.
Q:How many units will be produced?
A:TBD
Q:When will this happen?
A:Current timeline is 1.5-2 months after IC release (keep in mind this could change at any moment)
Acknowledgments
First of all a HUGE thank you to the people of Keebwerk for helping me all this time and making this happen.It's been a joy to work with you guys.
Another big thank you to the people (you know who you are) who have supported me and provided me with valuable feedback all this time.
Finally thank you Raz for your amazing renders!
Another big thank you to the people (you know who you are) who have supported me and provided me with valuable feedback all this time.
Finally thank you Raz for your amazing renders!
Things to be done and updates
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- Add more renders
- Iron out the manufacturing details
- Order prototypes
- Organize the sale
Updates
03/07/2020 - IC posted
10/07/2020 - Color and material IC added
11/08/2020 - Colors have been decided! (In the process of picking pantones)
01/09/2020 - Prototype ordered! (ETA 3 weeks)
10/07/2020 - Color and material IC added
11/08/2020 - Colors have been decided! (In the process of picking pantones)
01/09/2020 - Prototype ordered! (ETA 3 weeks)
Post by: bisoromi on Fri, 03 July 2020, 15:10:26
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Post by: ubmit on Fri, 03 July 2020, 15:16:53
also, why not QMK?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 03 July 2020, 15:26:01
this is classy! I like it!
also, why not QMK?
Thank you for the kind words! The PCB will support QMK of course, I just forgot to list it. It has been added.
Post by: zekth on Fri, 03 July 2020, 15:49:39
Otherwise looking for it
Post by: EnjoyMyInSec on Fri, 03 July 2020, 16:50:14
Interesting double backspace keymap
Otherwise looking for it
At least you can’t miss it ! ;D
Post by: raz on Fri, 03 July 2020, 18:22:37
Looking tasty! I love the clean and elegant design :thumb:
Post by: Hdjekso on Sat, 04 July 2020, 01:06:58
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Post by: i luv chuletas on Sat, 04 July 2020, 08:44:19
The board looks great, don't be afraid of trying out new colors!
A dark purple would be awesome with the theme of this
Post by: jimboytacos on Sat, 04 July 2020, 11:29:51
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Post by: dabbaranks on Sat, 04 July 2020, 14:25:59
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sat, 04 July 2020, 15:33:15
Q:Why the name Nasu?
A:Nasu means eggplant. The reason behind it is that eggplants are cool, tasty and everything sounds better in Japanese.
Right there you had me
Post by: lovidore on Sat, 04 July 2020, 15:45:01
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Post by: robrobro on Sat, 04 July 2020, 16:27:10
How you gonna name it after eggplant, give us an eggplant-ish render, and not include the color in one of the stock options for the board?? Criminal :eek: :))Seconded! Purple-on-the-verge-of-black would be really nice. Also, a plastic/flexy plate material would be appreciated.
The board looks great, don't be afraid of trying out new colors!
A dark purple would be awesome with the theme of this
Looking forward to more details about the gasket style.
Will it be manufactured by Salvun?
Post by: xsaav on Sat, 04 July 2020, 16:37:04
Post by: crusader_alex on Sat, 04 July 2020, 17:00:25
Very interested, that purple looks great. Will there be an interest check form where we can leave our email?Yep there will be an form soon, mostly to vote on colors, materials etc.
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Post by: crusader_alex on Sat, 04 July 2020, 17:06:05
As far as the colors go I'll leave the rest to the community. We're looking to do 3 extra colors so I'll post a google form so you can tell me which ones you want.How you gonna name it after eggplant, give us an eggplant-ish render, and not include the color in one of the stock options for the board?? Criminal :eek: :))Seconded! Purple-on-the-verge-of-black would be really nice. Also, a plastic/flexy plate material would be appreciated.
The board looks great, don't be afraid of trying out new colors!
A dark purple would be awesome with the theme of this
Looking forward to more details about the gasket style.
Will it be manufactured by Salvun?
In the IC you'll also be able to vote about extra case and plate materials (e.g polycarbonate)
As far as the gasket system goes I'll post some renders that show off the mounting system once they're done!
And finally no it will not be manufactured by Salvun
(Also for clarification I'm one of the members of Hephaestus works, sorry for the confusion I might have caused haha)
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Post by: jooobe on Sat, 04 July 2020, 17:16:33
Post by: Sªint on Sat, 04 July 2020, 20:21:25
waiting for this
Post by: ayumi971235111 on Sat, 04 July 2020, 20:34:55
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Post by: shodid on Sat, 04 July 2020, 23:06:00
Post by: fabijolo on Sat, 04 July 2020, 23:47:53
Are those soft grey/purple key caps a real set of were they just rendered to match the eggplant Nasu color? If real, please share the name. They are really nice.
Post by: dankpupdaddy on Sat, 04 July 2020, 23:53:57
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Post by: myflowsocold on Sun, 05 July 2020, 20:16:52
Now how do I explain to my girlfriend why I need another Alice layout
Post by: Neroctel on Sun, 05 July 2020, 21:10:42
Post by: brianfurysong on Sun, 05 July 2020, 21:42:31
btw is that chinese or japanese characters on the back?
Post by: kidviddy on Sun, 05 July 2020, 21:51:48
btw is that chinese or japanese characters on the back?
Originally Chinese, but the same characters mean the same thing in both Chinese and Japanese. The “nasu” pronunciation is Japanese though.
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 05 July 2020, 22:33:51
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 08 July 2020, 12:38:43
Would 100% be in board for a seamless polycarbonate verison. Looking forward to seeing where this goes!Considering the interest we've seen so far for PC we'll probably add that as an option!
Post by: Retne on Wed, 08 July 2020, 13:18:01
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 08 July 2020, 14:08:56
Will there be any vendor for NA/Asia?There will not. The board will only be sold through Keebwerk.
Post by: lolafineday on Wed, 08 July 2020, 14:24:50
OOF PLEASE ADD DYED POLYCARB I WILL LITERALLY KISS YOUWould 100% be in board for a seamless polycarbonate verison. Looking forward to seeing where this goes!Considering the interest we've seen so far for PC we'll probably add that as an option!
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Post by: Chadtucket on Thu, 09 July 2020, 07:35:40
Would 100% be in board for a seamless polycarbonate verison. Looking forward to seeing where this goes!Considering the interest we've seen so far for PC we'll probably add that as an option!
That sounds great! Thank you for the feedback!
Post by: econeuler on Fri, 10 July 2020, 06:49:47
Who is the eu manufacturer?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 10 July 2020, 12:25:36
Edit: I'm not a fan of the Chinese characters on the weight. It seems kinda random. But I'm in either way.
Post by: lolafineday on Fri, 10 July 2020, 13:28:52
I'm in.Lmao true literally says eggplant
Edit: I'm not a fan of the Chinese characters on the weight. It seems kinda random. But I'm in either way.
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Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 10 July 2020, 13:44:59
I'm in.Lmao true literally says eggplant
Edit: I'm not a fan of the Chinese characters on the weight. It seems kinda random. But I'm in either way.
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I guess it's fine if you can't read Chinese..
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 10 July 2020, 13:57:31
I'm in.
Edit: I'm not a fan of the Chinese characters on the weight. It seems kinda random. But I'm in either way.
The characters on the bottom are the name of the board haha but if people don't like the writing I might consider removing it and only sticking with the logo. Thank you for the feedback!
Post by: Really_Just_AE on Fri, 10 July 2020, 19:38:30
I'm in.
Edit: I'm not a fan of the Chinese characters on the weight. It seems kinda random. But I'm in either way.
The characters on the bottom are the name of the board haha but if people don't like the writing I might consider removing it and only sticking with the logo. Thank you for the feedback!
I could go either way for text or no text, but I'd probably lean towards no text for the sake of symmetry
Post by: yui_ on Fri, 10 July 2020, 20:49:14
Glwic
Post by: fabijolo on Sat, 11 July 2020, 00:04:27
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 12 July 2020, 11:22:59
Please add a CF plate optionThat particular one will probably not be an option for the GB, however after the sale we'll probably release the plate files so you can cut any plate you want.
Post by: swirle13 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 01:56:17
If you could make the layout about as identical to the Wonderland PCB by Maartenwut, that would be ideal. As long as I can put stabilizers under both spacebars.
Please please please do polycarb. I'm dying to find a solid Alice clone in PC.
PC plate as well would be fantastic.
Any foam options for between plate and PCB and/or underneath PCB would be amazing additions.
Hope this does well and is super successful!
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 15 July 2020, 10:42:18
Please consider adding support for alternate layouts like a 2.25u left space with 1u Fn, full length right shift in addition to the split right shift, and split backspace.
If you could make the layout about as identical to the Wonderland PCB by Maartenwut, that would be ideal. As long as I can put stabilizers under both spacebars.
Please please please do polycarb. I'm dying to find a solid Alice clone in PC.
PC plate as well would be fantastic.
Any foam options for between plate and PCB and/or underneath PCB would be amazing additions.
Hope this does well and is super successful!
+1. I also strongly prefer 2.25 + 1 for left space, full right shift and PC plate.
Post by: Revult on Wed, 15 July 2020, 13:34:18
I'd also opt for a backplate with only the logo.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 15 July 2020, 14:54:54
Please consider adding support for alternate layouts like a 2.25u left space with 1u Fn, full length right shift in addition to the split right shift, and split backspace.All the layout options you mentioned are actually supported! We will make sure to post a layout picture in the next days so you can see it. As far as polycarb goes it's still being considered, the results of the poll will help as well. It's not an easy material to work with at all and it will take quite a bit of work to come out nice but in the end if the demand is high enough we'll add it. It's much simpler to do it for plates though so it will probably be a plate option. As far as custom foam goes we are exploring that avenue since we also believe it would be a nice addition. And finally thank you for your support!
If you could make the layout about as identical to the Wonderland PCB by Maartenwut, that would be ideal. As long as I can put stabilizers under both spacebars.
Please please please do polycarb. I'm dying to find a solid Alice clone in PC.
PC plate as well would be fantastic.
Any foam options for between plate and PCB and/or underneath PCB would be amazing additions.
Hope this does well and is super successful!
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 18 July 2020, 12:59:39
This looks nice. Don't know if I'm blind, but I would like to see more pics/renders of the side profile.Nope you're not blind, however more renders have been added today to showcase the side profile a bit more!
Post by: 3ambutter on Sat, 18 July 2020, 14:38:22
Post by: hnaeht on Sat, 18 July 2020, 14:50:23
If there is a chance you might wanna seek suggestion, I think the simpler the engraving on the weight will make it look better and cleaner :D
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 18 July 2020, 15:03:16
thanks so much for making this happen. I'm def in!!!Thank you for the feedback! Seems that other people think so as well so the text on will probably be removed for the sake of making it look cleaner.
If there is a chance you might wanna seek suggestion, I think the simpler the engraving on the weight will make it look better and cleaner :D
Post by: cicada on Sat, 18 July 2020, 15:06:49
Will definitely be in for one :thumb:.
Post by: mattling9 on Sat, 18 July 2020, 16:32:42
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Post by: MicroPepega on Sun, 19 July 2020, 00:28:31
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 19 July 2020, 02:19:25
I'm assuming the red underglow on in the renders is only there to show off the curve - any consideration for underglow since PC is being considered?Actually it's not underglow, it's just a very vibrant red version of the bottom piece. But in general underglow won't be supported.
Post by: mattling9 on Sun, 19 July 2020, 03:40:25
Post by: jack413 on Sun, 19 July 2020, 09:05:32
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 19 July 2020, 09:22:54
Would it be possible to convince Keebwerk to offer international shipping for an additional cost?There is no need for convincing haha, international shipping will be offered and at pretty good rates as well.
Post by: jack413 on Sun, 19 July 2020, 09:28:09
This just made my day :')Would it be possible to convince Keebwerk to offer international shipping for an additional cost?There is no need for convincing haha, international shipping will be offered and at pretty good rates as well.
Post by: thestrayed on Sun, 19 July 2020, 11:23:25
:thumb:Would it be possible to convince Keebwerk to offer international shipping for an additional cost?There is no need for convincing haha, international shipping will be offered and at pretty good rates as well.
Post by: 3ambutter on Sun, 19 July 2020, 12:44:41
Post by: mattling9 on Sun, 19 July 2020, 14:57:21
I did a lil photoshop of the brass weight with 'Nasu' in a script font and matching engraving on the front. Of course you would have to fill the front engraving yourself. Its a super quick photoshop and was really roughly done but i think it would look really damn good given some more time selecting fonts etc..
Is this something you could consider making if enough people are interested? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 19 July 2020, 17:12:57
I will ask this again in case you missed my previous post. Would it be possible to have the tgr alice chin or are you committed to the more pointy, angular chin?Well this is an IC so nothing is really final but we feel like the chin looks nice how it is right now, however if people disagree and want a rounder chin maybe we can work on it.
Post by: bs on Mon, 20 July 2020, 04:45:28
Well this is an IC so nothing is really final but we feel like the chin looks nice how it is right now, however if people disagree and want a rounder chin maybe we can work on it.
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+1 the angular chin is the best part
Post by: Really_Just_AE on Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:27:47
Post by: Nutty on Wed, 22 July 2020, 14:15:41
Post by: Sanctified on Thu, 23 July 2020, 10:45:35
Definitely in for one
Post by: lolafineday on Thu, 23 July 2020, 11:04:38
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Post by: cyke on Fri, 24 July 2020, 01:26:22
Post by: mattling9 on Fri, 24 July 2020, 03:29:03
I really hope we can get a dark red case similar to this.
Let me know what you think! ;D
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Post by: prizeS on Fri, 24 July 2020, 03:40:01
Here is a better photoshop of the script design.
I really hope we can get a dark red case similar to this.
Let me know what you think! ;D
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yes please.
Post by: lolafineday on Fri, 24 July 2020, 07:20:34
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 24 July 2020, 13:59:22
will the PCB be solder or Hot Swap?It will be solder only
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 24 July 2020, 14:03:41
Here is a better photoshop of the script design.Looks amazing! However we will probably keep the top simple (as in no engravings or logos). We might change the weight to text only though depending on feedback. As far as the dark red goes It will be decided this week. We will sort through the color IC answers and decide on colors based on that (although dark red looks to be one of the favorites so far).
I really hope we can get a dark red case similar to this.
Let me know what you think! ;D
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Post by: terrad on Fri, 24 July 2020, 15:11:55
I too like the more simple front with no engravings.Here is a better photoshop of the script design.Looks amazing! However we will probably keep the top simple (as in no engravings or logos). We might change the weight to text only though depending on feedback. As far as the dark red goes It will be decided this week. We will sort through the color IC answers and decide on colors based on that (although dark red looks to be one of the favorites so far).
I really hope we can get a dark red case similar to this.
Let me know what you think! ;D
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Regarding the back weight I'd rather have just the logo, but that's just my opinion.
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Post by: zoo on Sat, 25 July 2020, 10:08:28
I three would like a more simple front with no engravings. Super in regardless!I too like the more simple front with no engravings.Here is a better photoshop of the script design.
I really hope we can get a dark red case similar to this.
Let me know what you think! ;D
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Looks amazing! However we will probably keep the top simple (as in no engravings or logos). We might change the weight to text only though depending on feedback. As far as the dark red goes It will be decided this week. We will sort through the color IC answers and decide on colors based on that (although dark red looks to be one of the favorites so far).
Regarding the back weight I'd rather have just the logo, but that's just my opinion.
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Post by: cicada on Sat, 25 July 2020, 16:52:33
Here is a better photoshop of the script design.Looks amazing! However we will probably keep the top simple (as in no engravings or logos). We might change the weight to text only though depending on feedback. As far as the dark red goes It will be decided this week. We will sort through the color IC answers and decide on colors based on that (although dark red looks to be one of the favorites so far).
I really hope we can get a dark red case similar to this.
Let me know what you think! ;D
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Yaas, dark red ftw :cool:
Post by: desipalen on Sun, 26 July 2020, 09:03:37
Post by: Krzew on Sun, 26 July 2020, 13:13:11
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 26 July 2020, 14:03:14
any updates? GB still planned with 1.5-2 months after IC release timeline?No updates us of now, next item of business will be to sort through the IC and finalize colors and material options. As far as the GB goes it's still planned for that timeframe, however it is not by any means a concrete date.
Post by: unstellar on Tue, 28 July 2020, 07:44:31
Post by: lolafineday on Tue, 28 July 2020, 07:59:45
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Post by: cicada on Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:55:10
(https://www.color-hex.com/palettes/5811.png)
Something similar to these matrix boards would be cool
More
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48798499262_bac8cf25be_6k.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Bz9CzET.png)
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Post by: avtar on Tue, 28 July 2020, 13:40:10
Example:
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Post by: Hdjekso on Sat, 01 August 2020, 00:06:32
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Post by: hnaeht on Sun, 02 August 2020, 11:15:43
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:26:51
oh man grey case and red plate are my jams! I'm def in.(https://i.postimg.cc/FKJFByXM/Tofu-2020-Jun-23-11-01-19-PM-000-Customized-View26988074469-png-1.png)
It's a pretty mediocre render but it's one of the first we did for the board :thumb:
Post by: fakedSkill on Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:30:28
Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/FKJFByXM/Tofu-2020-Jun-23-11-01-19-PM-000-Customized-View26988074469-png-1.png)
wow looks gourgeous
Post by: lolafineday on Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:39:06
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Post by: mrgirthray on Sun, 02 August 2020, 16:40:34
Post by: cicada on Sun, 02 August 2020, 20:31:45
oh man grey case and red plate are my jams! I'm def in.Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/FKJFByXM/Tofu-2020-Jun-23-11-01-19-PM-000-Customized-View26988074469-png-1.png)
It's a pretty mediocre render but it's one of the first we did for the board :thumb:
I wouldn't say it's mediocre haha since it makes me even more excited than I already am. Also that render did a really good job showing that curve :thumb:. Are we still on schedule with the expected timeline for GB, will we have a prototype?
Post by: zwei on Fri, 07 August 2020, 15:23:15
Post by: Scriba on Sat, 08 August 2020, 13:23:10
Post by: Scriba on Mon, 10 August 2020, 04:00:40
Post by: zortex on Mon, 10 August 2020, 11:11:46
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 11 August 2020, 16:03:35
So in!! Any updates yet? Thanks!Yes! The most recent update is that colors have been picked and we're now searching for pantones. Thank you for your support!
Post by: dabbaranks on Wed, 12 August 2020, 02:38:16
Post by: Scriba on Wed, 12 August 2020, 08:23:26
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDx5kf-HGXu/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
Post by: Really_Just_AE on Fri, 14 August 2020, 01:15:48
Qlavier acrylic Alice case has such a nice rounded shape on the front, would be cool something in this direction:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDx5kf-HGXu/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
There's plenty of Alice inspired boards with rounded chins at this point. If you're not into the angles, why get invested in this one?
Post by: Scriba on Fri, 14 August 2020, 03:02:18
On some renders there are way sharper angles, which I don't like.
Post by: Sup on Fri, 14 August 2020, 06:28:38
Because I love everything about the board. The slight angles are fine but the renders are inconsistent.
On some renders there are way sharper angles, which I don't like.
I like how it looks and rounded angles will cost more machine timing aka more expensive to produce.
Post by: i luv chuletas on Fri, 14 August 2020, 12:35:45
We did it boys.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 14 August 2020, 14:05:20
Because I love everything about the board. The slight angles are fine but the renders are inconsistent.
On some renders there are way sharper angles, which I don't like.
I'm afraid we'll probably be sticking with the more angular chin, we prefer the look of the board that way. Also the renders are all of the same board just some different angles, there haven't been any changes to the chin throughout the IC phase. Sorry for the confusion!
Post by: hexa on Sun, 16 August 2020, 14:51:03
Post by: Scriba on Tue, 18 August 2020, 04:39:50
Because I love everything about the board. The slight angles are fine but the renders are inconsistent.
On some renders there are way sharper angles, which I don't like.
I'm afraid we'll probably be sticking with the more angular chin, we prefer the look of the board that way. Also the renders are all of the same board just some different angles, there haven't been any changes to the chin throughout the IC phase. Sorry for the confusion!
Thanks for the reply! I'm fine with the angulars but would be cool if the chin is a tad wider like the fallacy.
Otherwise the board is stunning, keep the good work up.
Post by: nonexistentlion on Tue, 18 August 2020, 13:54:45
Is there a slim chance of a Carbon Fiber plate being added as an option?
Post by: Krzew on Thu, 20 August 2020, 14:46:37
Price includes VAT? You son of a *****, I'm in.this wasnt answered, so i'll ask again. is the 350€ including vat or eu folks will have to pay 20% more?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Thu, 20 August 2020, 16:32:09
The price includes VAT!Price includes VAT? You son of a *****, I'm in.this wasnt answered, so i'll ask again. is the 350€ including vat or eu folks will have to pay 20% more?
Post by: Sup on Sat, 22 August 2020, 01:48:25
The price includes VAT!Price includes VAT? You son of a *****, I'm in.this wasnt answered, so i'll ask again. is the 350€ including vat or eu folks will have to pay 20% more?
In for two supporting EU keyboard designers. Well if i can get into the GB that is :-X
Post by: mattling9 on Sat, 22 August 2020, 13:02:49
Post by: Sup on Sat, 22 August 2020, 20:34:05
What is the timeline looking like? Can we expect the GB to start soon?Q:When will this happen?
A:Current timeline is 1.5-2 months after IC release (keep in mind this could change at any moment)
Read the IC bro :-\
Post by: fakedSkill on Sat, 22 August 2020, 21:43:34
Post by: Sup on Sat, 22 August 2020, 21:44:46
Stupid question, how many stabs (+ sizes) would one need to stab all the possibilities?
5x 2u stabs
Post by: fakedSkill on Sat, 22 August 2020, 22:10:50
5x 2u stabs
Thank you <3
Post by: lonalde on Sat, 22 August 2020, 23:08:35
Post by: azack on Sun, 23 August 2020, 09:51:46
Post by: fitz on Mon, 24 August 2020, 13:14:25
Post by: mattling9 on Mon, 24 August 2020, 13:29:49
Post by: cong314159 on Mon, 24 August 2020, 23:29:20
Post by: Scriba on Tue, 25 August 2020, 05:02:52
Post by: Marco071 on Tue, 25 August 2020, 16:58:41
Does this mean the will be shipped from germany to customers? If so i'm in. Because this will save me alot of money on import fees and customs.Will there be any vendor for NA/Asia?There will not. The board will only be sold through Keebwerk.
Post by: Ramen Champ on Wed, 26 August 2020, 13:34:42
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Thu, 27 August 2020, 14:50:24
updates to the GB or is it FCFS?In terms of the sale it will probably be pre-order style but that's yet to be determined. The pre-order style sale will allow us to hopefully have shorter wait times than a traditional GB style sale. More details will be unveiled soon!
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Thu, 27 August 2020, 14:51:14
That is the plan as of now! The keyboards will ship directly from keebwerk.Does this mean the will be shipped from germany to customers? If so i'm in. Because this will save me alot of money on import fees and customs.Will there be any vendor for NA/Asia?There will not. The board will only be sold through Keebwerk.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Thu, 27 August 2020, 14:53:50
Great work on the renders and design! Was just wondering if you were planning on making a discord for updates?There are no plans for a discord as of now unfortunately, best place to stay up to date would be on this thread. Thank you for your kind words!
Post by: fitz on Thu, 27 August 2020, 15:13:47
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Thu, 27 August 2020, 15:23:08
Not to be asking you for any commitment or something, but do you think this project will get to conclusion by end of 2020?Unfortunately that's not something within the realms of possibility. There's still quite a lot to be done before even the sale begins.
Post by: urbanphoenix on Fri, 28 August 2020, 01:06:17
Post by: fitz on Fri, 28 August 2020, 06:22:32
Not to be asking you for any commitment or something, but do you think this project will get to conclusion by end of 2020?Unfortunately that's not something within the realms of possibility. There's still quite a lot to be done before even the sale begins.
Thank you for replying so quickly. One last question, in addition to what is being offered as part of this GB; what other parts should one get to have a fully working keyboard? I am not an expert and mostly want to get this as a gift.
Post by: urbanphoenix on Fri, 28 August 2020, 14:28:43
Not to be asking you for any commitment or something, but do you think this project will get to conclusion by end of 2020?Unfortunately that's not something within the realms of possibility. There's still quite a lot to be done before even the sale begins.
Thank you for replying so quickly. One last question, in addition to what is being offered as part of this GB; what other parts should one get to have a fully working keyboard? I am not an expert and mostly want to get this as a gift.
Most kits include a PCB, plate, and case. In this case you would need switches, stabilizers, and keycaps.
Post by: fakedSkill on Mon, 21 September 2020, 13:50:07
Not to be asking you for any commitment or something, but do you think this project will get to conclusion by end of 2020?Unfortunately that's not something within the realms of possibility. There's still quite a lot to be done before even the sale begins.
Do you mean no GB this year or no shipment of final boards to buyers this year?
Post by: KeyTwoOne on Thu, 24 September 2020, 22:01:15
Post by: Really_Just_AE on Thu, 24 September 2020, 23:11:01
Is the PCB hot swap?
nope, I don’t think so
Post by: mattling9 on Sun, 27 September 2020, 09:33:47
Post by: ligongduck on Sun, 27 September 2020, 13:19:43
Post by: basedRNC on Sun, 27 September 2020, 13:31:03
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Post by: dakatisshort on Sun, 27 September 2020, 21:29:48
Post by: Ramen Champ on Sun, 27 September 2020, 22:10:19
Great work on the renders and design! Was just wondering if you were planning on making a discord for updates?There are no plans for a discord as of now unfortunately, best place to stay up to date would be on this thread. Thank you for your kind words!
:cool: Can't wait!
Post by: thecheeselouise on Mon, 28 September 2020, 00:13:09
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Mon, 28 September 2020, 05:15:44
Any Updates on the GB?The prototype should arrive sometime in the next 2 weeks. After that we'll build it, test it and get pictures and sound tests.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Mon, 28 September 2020, 05:19:54
Any discord for this project?
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Love this. Any discord group? Any timeline? Thanks!Unfortunately there is no discord as of now, but perhaps we'll make one in the future! As far as the timeline goes the prototype should arrive sometime in the next 2 weeks and if all is good it's only a matter of finalizing the colors and setting up the sale.
Thank you all for your interest!
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Mon, 28 September 2020, 05:21:31
Not to be asking you for any commitment or something, but do you think this project will get to conclusion by end of 2020?Unfortunately that's not something within the realms of possibility. There's still quite a lot to be done before even the sale begins.
Do you mean no GB this year or no shipment of final boards to buyers this year?
Shipment of the boards, the sale will most definitely happen within this year!
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Mon, 28 September 2020, 05:23:28
Is the PCB hot swap?No, the pcb is solder only
Post by: fakedSkill on Thu, 01 October 2020, 13:36:57
Post by: 27potato on Mon, 05 October 2020, 02:21:33
Post by: Scriba on Fri, 09 October 2020, 07:27:34
Post by: olix on Fri, 09 October 2020, 08:52:24
Post by: Neveller on Sat, 10 October 2020, 06:05:07
Post by: rt_es on Sun, 11 October 2020, 01:03:09
Post by: cohesive_glue on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:16:04
Post by: Scriba on Tue, 13 October 2020, 04:39:01
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 October 2020, 09:24:27
Did the proto arrive yet? ☺️It did! We're still waiting on the pcbs though. In any case we'll be assembling it and getting some pictures in the coming weeks!
Definitely in if it actually ends up shipping from Germany, huge cost saving :)It will be shipped from Germany indeed!
other Plate materials than alu and brass would be nice as it is known that pom/FR4 sounds and feels better with some switchesWe will be offering polycarbonate as well, we can also look into POM and FR4 though.
is this an unlimited gb? please let it be unlimited :(Unfortunately It won't be unlimited, we don't want to bite off more than we can chew.
number of units still tbd? would be awesome if unlimited is possible :)We're thinking of offering around 150-200 units, while not unlimited we think that's still a good number of boards and would help us keep things manageable to ensure the best quality possible.
Really nice looking board. Excited to see that proto. Hopefully, I will get to pick this one up!Thank you for your kind words! Prototype pics will be shared in the coming weeks :)
Will we be given the choice to pick the color of the bottom part of the case? I see white/red in the renders and I'm wondering if we could mix and match to get something like white/navy.Yes the colors are all customizable, you will be able to get whatever color combination you want!
+1 for split backspace, this is really importantSplit backspace is offered :thumb:
Post by: fakedSkill on Tue, 13 October 2020, 12:08:12
Did the proto arrive yet? ☺️It did! We're still waiting on the pcbs though. In any case we'll be assembling it and getting some pictures in the coming weeks!
Thanks for the update! Looking forward to the pics!
Post by: urbanphoenix on Fri, 16 October 2020, 03:09:16
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 16 October 2020, 07:43:52
Will it be fcfs
Post by: hexa on Sat, 17 October 2020, 00:40:08
Post by: ligongduck on Sat, 17 October 2020, 01:38:34
Post by: Hellenic94 on Sat, 17 October 2020, 16:23:41
150 units is plenty :thumb:
Will it be fcfs
oh sweet summer child
Post by: Scriba on Mon, 19 October 2020, 13:24:47
For cheap custom pom plate (aswell alice layout).
Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 19 October 2020, 13:34:35
Oh, I know what I was saying. 150 units is plenty for the GB, not plenty for everyone that wants one to have one.150 units is plenty :thumb:
Will it be fcfs
oh sweet summer child
Post by: ThirdPartyCrap on Mon, 19 October 2020, 20:12:31
Post by: Scriba on Wed, 21 October 2020, 08:14:47
Did the proto arrive yet? ☺️It did! We're still waiting on the pcbs though. In any case we'll be assembling it and getting some pictures in the coming weeks!
Did the pcbs arrive yet? can't wait for the result :D
Post by: I.Hiyori on Fri, 23 October 2020, 02:03:04
Post by: alohakbd on Sun, 25 October 2020, 20:30:43
Post by: Sup on Sun, 25 October 2020, 20:37:14
Will there be a Hotswap version of the PCB for this board? Would be awesome!
Only solder i am pretty sure. It was asked before.
Post by: mattling9 on Thu, 29 October 2020, 14:25:01
Post by: thnick on Fri, 30 October 2020, 10:10:05
:-\
Post by: Sup on Fri, 30 October 2020, 11:28:16
Will it fit the "ALICE PCB REV2 - USB-C" pcb?
:-\
Connectivity: Custom PCB which uses ai03's unified daughterboard (PCB designed by Yiancar), QMK will be supported. So no please read :)
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 30 October 2020, 14:26:32
Any Prototype Updates?Yes, as of now we're dealing with some issues with the pcb manufacturing which will unfortunately delay the arrival of the prototypes. As far as the case prototype goes
it's being shipped to us right now! Should be arriving sometime this week.
Will it fit the "ALICE PCB REV2 - USB-C" pcb?As another user mentioned it will not fit standard Alice pcbs. The pcb will be a custom one with a usb c daughterboard.
:-\
Post by: devilDesignsKB on Fri, 30 October 2020, 14:36:05
Post by: Scriba on Fri, 30 October 2020, 17:13:06
Dang,.. when i saw this a few months ago I was super excited.. But was it silently downgraded from 6063 aluminum to 6061? I really wanted my endgame board to be 6063 for psychological reasons :-[
second that, why not 6063? Don't get me wrong, I rather spend few dollars more, but have high end quality.
Post by: njrobb on Sat, 07 November 2020, 01:19:05
Post by: hpkb on Mon, 09 November 2020, 14:28:05
Dang,.. when i saw this a few months ago I was super excited.. But was it silently downgraded from 6063 aluminum to 6061? I really wanted my endgame board to be 6063 for psychological reasons :-[
second that, why not 6063? Don't get me wrong, I rather spend few dollars more, but have high end quality.
Curious to see why they went down to 6061 as well
Post by: Milky_Mooncake on Wed, 11 November 2020, 16:12:48
i'm 100% in
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 12 November 2020, 03:11:08
Dang,.. when i saw this a few months ago I was super excited.. But was it silently downgraded from 6063 aluminum to 6061? I really wanted my endgame board to be 6063 for psychological reasons :-[
second that, why not 6063? Don't get me wrong, I rather spend few dollars more, but have high end quality.
Curious to see why they went down to 6061 as well
Is being 6063 (instead of 6061) the actual property that makes this Alice-like design among other CNC Alice-like design a "premium" one?
Post by: voelzmo on Thu, 12 November 2020, 03:37:27
In my world, there are a few good reasons to choose 6063 over 6061, but having a CNC machined piece of aluminium built for use indoors isn't one of them.
Post by: Scriba on Thu, 12 November 2020, 03:50:33
I'd be really interested to understand why people seem to think that aluminium 6063 should be a "better" material for a keyboard than 6061. Could you help me understand the criteria which you're applying here to measure "better"?
In my world, there are a few good reasons to choose 6063 over 6061, but having a CNC machined piece of aluminium built for use indoors isn't one of them.
Post by: Scriba on Thu, 12 November 2020, 03:52:20
Dang,.. when i saw this a few months ago I was super excited.. But was it silently downgraded from 6063 aluminum to 6061? I really wanted my endgame board to be 6063 for psychological reasons :-[
second that, why not 6063? Don't get me wrong, I rather spend few dollars more, but have high end quality.
Curious to see why they went down to 6061 as well
Is being 6063 (instead of 6061) the actual property that makes this Alice-like design among other CNC Alice-like design a "premium" one?
I wouldn't say premium. There are plenty Alice-like Keyboards with 6063 (like the "bear" which wasn't more expensive).
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 13 November 2020, 13:24:35
Dang,.. when i saw this a few months ago I was super excited.. But was it silently downgraded from 6063 aluminum to 6061? I really wanted my endgame board to be 6063 for psychological reasons :-[It wasn't downgraded at all, it was 6061 all along. But we will get some new quotes with 6063 and potentially some new prototypes and compare!
This board looks really nice. These types of designs are what really drew me to this community. I'd totally be down to purchase. :thumb: :)Thank you for your kind words!
Well all the samples and prototypes we have from the manufacturer are in 6061 and the end result is really quite good but if it's important to people we can also inquire about 6063.Dang,.. when i saw this a few months ago I was super excited.. But was it silently downgraded from 6063 aluminum to 6061? I really wanted my endgame board to be 6063 for psychological reasons :-[
second that, why not 6063? Don't get me wrong, I rather spend few dollars more, but have high end quality.
this looks so cleanThank you very much!
i'm 100% in
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 13 November 2020, 13:34:21
The first prototype has arrived! There are a couple of issues which have been resolved. Mainly the gasket system is being redone since the gaskets at the moment are a little bit too small thus not resulting in the best gasket keyboard experience. In addition to that some more space has been added below the pcb to ensure that the keyboard has ample room to flex and work well even with softer plate materials like polycarbonate or POM.
Here are some prototype pictures for you to enjoy,we will be taking better pictures of many different angles sometime in the next days!
(https://i.postimg.cc/1Xjn6LkQ/IMG-20201112-220006-913.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMhtB8F7/IMG-20201113-112617.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LsDsLcPb/IMG-20201113-120701.jpg)
Here are some prototype pictures for you to enjoy,we will be taking better pictures of many different angles sometime in the next days!
(https://i.postimg.cc/1Xjn6LkQ/IMG-20201112-220006-913.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMhtB8F7/IMG-20201113-112617.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LsDsLcPb/IMG-20201113-120701.jpg)
Post by: ThirdPartyCrap on Fri, 13 November 2020, 13:47:06
Post by: Neveller on Sat, 14 November 2020, 06:35:58
Post by: voelzmo on Sat, 14 November 2020, 17:23:59
I'd be really interested to understand why people seem to think that aluminium 6063 should be a "better" material for a keyboard than 6061. Could you help me understand the criteria which you're applying here to measure "better"?
In my world, there are a few good reasons to choose 6063 over 6061, but having a CNC machined piece of aluminium built for use indoors isn't one of them.
Again, which of these properties do you care about for your keyboard? Corrosion is important when it’s for outdoors. Extrudability doesn’t really matter here. So what is it that makes you care about 6063?
Post by: ButDutWut on Sat, 14 November 2020, 20:51:52
Edit: I just saw you mentioned more angles coming soon. Nice.
Post by: samisles10 on Sat, 14 November 2020, 22:45:59
- would i be able to join GB if im in the US?
- is the GB unlimited?
Post by: Ustinj on Sun, 15 November 2020, 02:51:26
I'd be really interested to understand why people seem to think that aluminium 6063 should be a "better" material for a keyboard than 6061. Could you help me understand the criteria which you're applying here to measure "better"?
In my world, there are a few good reasons to choose 6063 over 6061, but having a CNC machined piece of aluminium built for use indoors isn't one of them.
Again, which of these properties do you care about for your keyboard? Corrosion is important when it’s for outdoors. Extrudability doesn’t really matter here. So what is it that makes you care about 6063?
Some factories don't work with 6061 at all because it doesn't anodize as nicely as 6063, that may be one example
Post by: Scriba on Sun, 15 November 2020, 07:27:17
I'd be really interested to understand why people seem to think that aluminium 6063 should be a "better" material for a keyboard than 6061. Could you help me understand the criteria which you're applying here to measure "better"?
In my world, there are a few good reasons to choose 6063 over 6061, but having a CNC machined piece of aluminium built for use indoors isn't one of them.
Again, which of these properties do you care about for your keyboard? Corrosion is important when it’s for outdoors. Extrudability doesn’t really matter here. So what is it that makes you care about 6063?
dude, I didn't say that 6061 alu wouldn't be a nice keyboard. but it's just a fact, that the surface and the anodize is better / higher quality. just compare a 6061 and 6063 by yourself at a keeb community meeting.
It's cool that HephaestusWorks will check out 6063 and look out for the difference, then we will see what he thinks about it.
Post by: rt_es on Sun, 15 November 2020, 20:57:58
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Post by: ctrl.alt.deee on Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:17:00
Post by: voelzmo on Tue, 17 November 2020, 03:00:29
I'd be really interested to understand why people seem to think that aluminium 6063 should be a "better" material for a keyboard than 6061. Could you help me understand the criteria which you're applying here to measure "better"?
In my world, there are a few good reasons to choose 6063 over 6061, but having a CNC machined piece of aluminium built for use indoors isn't one of them.
Again, which of these properties do you care about for your keyboard? Corrosion is important when it’s for outdoors. Extrudability doesn’t really matter here. So what is it that makes you care about 6063?
dude, I didn't say that 6061 alu wouldn't be a nice keyboard. but it's just a fact, that the surface and the anodize is better / higher quality. just compare a 6061 and 6063 by yourself at a keeb community meeting.
It's cool that HephaestusWorks will check out 6063 and look out for the difference, then we will see what he thinks about it.
Thanks for educating me on why you’re preferring 6063. I saw people asking for Alu 6063 in a few places and really wanted to understand what they were looking for.
Post by: fakedSkill on Thu, 26 November 2020, 18:13:03
The first prototype has arrived! There are a couple of issues which have been resolved. Mainly the gasket system is being redone since the gaskets at the moment are a little bit too small thus not resulting in the best gasket keyboard experience. In addition to that some more space has been added below the pcb to ensure that the keyboard has ample room to flex and work well even with softer plate materials like polycarbonate or POM.
Here are some prototype pictures for you to enjoy, we will be taking better pictures of many different angles sometime in the next days!
Thank you for sharing the photos of the prototype! Looks great!
Post by: Toady01 on Fri, 27 November 2020, 21:06:38
No blue colors?
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 28 November 2020, 03:53:22
Post by: maximize on Sat, 28 November 2020, 18:58:38
Do you think this will make it to GB this year?
Also, please do a raffle, not FCFS!
Post by: mattling9 on Tue, 01 December 2020, 04:26:06
Right now i think the current weight, weight logo and rubber feet let the beautiful aesthetic of the board down.
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 08 December 2020, 04:08:39
Very interested.Thank you very much!
This is sexy.Appreciate the kind words! There will be a navy blue available, we will be releasing the pantones by the end of the week!
No blue colors?
annoying request: possible to have an option for no engraving on the weight?Unfortunately that will not be an option during the group buy however we may consider taking custom requests afterwards.
Stunning. Love the work going into this.Thank you very much for your support! As things currently stand we're probably not going to be able to start the sale within the year, however it will be very early next year. As far as the sale is concerned we are still figuring out how it will be but we'll consider all options!
Do you think this will make it to GB this year?
Also, please do a raffle, not FCFS!
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 08 December 2020, 04:09:29
Looks great! Would love to see a bit more of the side profile on the proto :DThank you! We have posted some new pictures that showcase the sides a bit better as well, feel free to check those out.
Post by: Bloo Blah Blay on Tue, 08 December 2020, 16:08:06
If it is preset, can you tell us what they are please?
Thank you,
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 17 February 2021, 17:06:53
Is there an estimated lead time yet for when the gb ends?The GB will be open for about a month or until the maximum number of units is reached.
Looking forward to more future GB! Is there an estimate for which month it will occur?We are aiming for the sale to start before the end of Q1
Is there a default top and bottom casing or will be have the choice of choosing each of the color.You will be able to choose different colors for all the parts if you want to!
If it is preset, can you tell us what they are please?
Thank you,
any chance of an AU proxy?No such plans currently. Keebwerk will be handling everything!
Been following since the initial post, glad to see this is still in progress. Any updates to the timeline?Yes, we are aiming to start the sale by the end of Q1
I'm so into this! Any updates?Final prototype is done, waiting on it. We will build it, record sound tests and then set up the sale. The pcb's are also done and confirmed functional!
Post by: anon_swe on Wed, 17 February 2021, 18:47:44
Is there an estimated lead time yet for when the gb ends?The GB will be open for about a month or until the maximum number of units is reached.Looking forward to more future GB! Is there an estimate for which month it will occur?We are aiming for the sale to start before the end of Q1Is there a default top and bottom casing or will be have the choice of choosing each of the color.You will be able to choose different colors for all the parts if you want to!
If it is preset, can you tell us what they are please?
Thank you,any chance of an AU proxy?No such plans currently. Keebwerk will be handling everything!Been following since the initial post, glad to see this is still in progress. Any updates to the timeline?Yes, we are aiming to start the sale by the end of Q1I'm so into this! Any updates?Final prototype is done, waiting on it. We will build it, record sound tests and then set up the sale. The pcb's are also done and confirmed functional!
Post by: fakedSkill on Sat, 20 February 2021, 00:40:52
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Post by: anon_swe on Sat, 20 February 2021, 18:34:24
Awesome work on the keyboard an Im excited to hear that the GB will happen soon :D. Have you decided how many units will be available? you say the GB will be open for a month or until the limit is hit, so does this mean there is a High soft cap on how many keebs there will be, and that the keyboard wont be sold out in the first 10 seconds? :D
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Post by: korrelate on Sun, 21 February 2021, 17:50:28
You think we're can change the bottom weight and rubber feet to be something like this? It would look as beautiful on the bottom as it does on the top.
Right now i think the current weight, weight logo and rubber feet let the beautiful aesthetic of the board down.
It's Topre for me so I'm out, but I have to say: this is one of the most striking boards I've seen in a while. Well, as configured, the top is anyway. mattling9 makes a good point for this board. The attention to detail on the bottom, as configured, is not worthy of the rest of the board. While I was screening the renders, I was thinking, "Wow" and "Damn" and "That was a great choice." and then, when I saw the pics of the bottom: the mismatched materials, the cheap-a** 3m bump-ons, I was thinking, "That's a shame."
Too... I see you guys are talking about a gasket and there are no photos of such a thing in the renders.
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Post by: soloplayer on Thu, 18 March 2021, 23:14:26
also ne discord avail?
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Post by: AhmadHamid on Fri, 02 April 2021, 11:13:42
Will it be ISO compatible? :)
Post by: Nevermore012 on Thu, 08 April 2021, 22:00:32
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 10 April 2021, 11:47:33
Post by: soloplayer on Sat, 10 April 2021, 12:36:31
Post by: fakedSkill on Sat, 10 April 2021, 17:55:20
Sorry for the lack of updates everyone, it's been a busy time. So currently we received the final prototype. We will be building it this week and recording sound tests! Thank you everyone for supporting this project thus far!
Epic! Thank you for the update! Super hyped and credit card is locked and loaded xD
Post by: anon_swe on Mon, 12 April 2021, 16:36:45
Sorry for the lack of updates everyone, it's been a busy time. So currently we received the final prototype. We will be building it this week and recording sound tests! Thank you everyone for supporting this project thus far!
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Post by: maximize on Wed, 14 April 2021, 22:35:49
woo hoo finally! hope everything turns out good enough, so GB can happen in June :thumb:
My guess is if we're already delayed this much, there's no way a June buy is happening...
Post by: basedRNC on Thu, 15 April 2021, 23:55:52
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Post by: soloplayer on Mon, 26 April 2021, 21:31:16
Get ready to wait another 3 months for next real updatelol so true. cant argue with that
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 18 May 2021, 06:50:37
Just wanted to let everyone know that the project is in fact not dead. We know this has been going very slowly but we ask for your understanding.
Life happens and sometimes it's not the easiest to focus on a project in conjunction with everything else. That said the prototype is getting built this week and the details finalized by the end of the week.
We're currently aiming for an early to mid June release as everything other than the sound tests are ready. Once again we're very sorry for the lack of updates but we're asking that you bear with us for the few weeks left until the GB.
Post by: cigs_coffee on Tue, 18 May 2021, 09:15:25
Post by: soloplayer on Tue, 18 May 2021, 11:18:04
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to let everyone know that the project is in fact not dead. We know this has been going very slowly but we ask for your understanding.
Life happens and sometimes it's not the easiest to focus on a project in conjunction with everything else. That said the prototype is getting built this week and the details finalized by the end of the week.
We're currently aiming for an early to mid June release as everything other than the sound tests are ready. Once again we're very sorry for the lack of updates but we're asking that you bear with us for the few weeks left until the GB.
we could have faith in you if at least there could be some updates like this
i understand your situation, and hope everything goes well!!
cant wait for GB
Post by: ENG Studio on Tue, 18 May 2021, 12:09:52
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Post by: basedRNC on Tue, 18 May 2021, 19:29:55
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to let everyone know that the project is in fact not dead. We know this has been going very slowly but we ask for your understanding.
Life happens and sometimes it's not the easiest to focus on a project in conjunction with everything else. That said the prototype is getting built this week and the details finalized by the end of the week.
We're currently aiming for an early to mid June release as everything other than the sound tests are ready. Once again we're very sorry for the lack of updates but we're asking that you bear with us for the few weeks left until the GB.
Don’t want to be a Debbie downer but the lack of responsiveness during this IC phase is telling for how the fulfillment phase might go.
Best of luck.
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 18 May 2021, 19:37:30
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to let everyone know that the project is in fact not dead. We know this has been going very slowly but we ask for your understanding.
Life happens and sometimes it's not the easiest to focus on a project in conjunction with everything else. That said the prototype is getting built this week and the details finalized by the end of the week.
We're currently aiming for an early to mid June release as everything other than the sound tests are ready. Once again we're very sorry for the lack of updates but we're asking that you bear with us for the few weeks left until the GB.
Don’t want to be a Debbie downer but the lack of responsiveness during this IC phase is telling for how the fulfillment phase might go.
Best of luck.
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Well, not really. For a couple of different reasons. The manufacturing and fullfilment phase will be handled by keebwerk for one. Additionally we took our time with the IC precisely so there is no impact in the timeframe of the actual GB. Now when the GB is up there will also be a discord server for more frequent updates and more immediate communication.
Post by: soloplayer on Wed, 19 May 2021, 05:15:39
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to let everyone know that the project is in fact not dead. We know this has been going very slowly but we ask for your understanding.
Life happens and sometimes it's not the easiest to focus on a project in conjunction with everything else. That said the prototype is getting built this week and the details finalized by the end of the week.
We're currently aiming for an early to mid June release as everything other than the sound tests are ready. Once again we're very sorry for the lack of updates but we're asking that you bear with us for the few weeks left until the GB.
Don’t want to be a Debbie downer but the lack of responsiveness during this IC phase is telling for how the fulfillment phase might go.
Best of luck.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Well, not really. For a couple of different reasons. The manufacturing and fullfilment phase will be handled by keebwerk for one. Additionally we took our time with the IC precisely so there is no impact in the timeframe of the actual GB. Now when the GB is up there will also be a discord server for more frequent updates and more immediate communication.
that's good to hear. hope everything goes according to plan
still my endgame
Post by: whatoe on Wed, 26 May 2021, 13:03:36
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Thu, 27 May 2021, 11:36:35
Here is a first picture, we are currently gathering the gear to record a more professional sound test which will be posted in this comment as soon as it's ready.
(https://i.postimg.cc/05bVctXB/IMG-20210527-184714.jpg)
Post by: apexshikari on Thu, 27 May 2021, 11:54:24
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Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 28 May 2021, 02:20:41
Hello everyone! The prototype has finally been built! The current build is using a POM plate and H1's (there are some other random swithces sprinkled in some mod keys because we run out of H1's)
Here is a first picture, we are currently gathering the gear to record a more professional sound test which will be posted in this comment as soon as it's ready.Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/05bVctXB/IMG-20210527-184714.jpg)
nice!! gld to see it's happening
i'm ready
Post by: anto_nym on Tue, 01 June 2021, 15:07:47
Post by: actress on Thu, 03 June 2021, 20:33:29
Is that the only layout? ISO would be very nice...
Post by: AhmadHamid on Sat, 05 June 2021, 03:57:28
Looks really good!
Is that the only layout? ISO would be very nice...
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Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 11 June 2021, 06:59:36
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 11 June 2021, 07:10:47
wake uppp!!5 more minutes mom! Jokes aside, we're still trying to record a sound test. Gears all arrived, but making a video to go along with the sound test has been proven tricky. In any case we'll post some of the raw sounds for now and try to record a video in the meantime.
Post by: ZongZiWang on Fri, 11 June 2021, 10:35:57
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Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 11 June 2021, 10:48:30
oh man everytime i bump this post, you show up lolwake uppp!!5 more minutes mom! Jokes aside, we're still trying to record a sound test. Gears all arrived, but making a video to go along with the sound test has been proven tricky. In any case we'll post some of the raw sounds for now and try to record a video in the meantime.
guess my shout works
Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 11 June 2021, 10:50:01
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 11 June 2021, 11:02:37
dont get anything wrong, cuz i want this beautiful board so bad. so i'm tired of waitingThe wait is almost over, the sale itself has been finalized for 25-30 of June. In the meantime we're having a bit of a hard time recording a sound test that reflects reality and we'd really like to post something that's at least close to the real thing.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 11 June 2021, 11:04:56
Have you guys thought about sending to streamers for streaming? Nowadays for GB, I'd like to see how the board is structured and built, rather than single typing sound video.
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There's currently no plans to send protos to streamers at least before the actual sale. Making new protos to send out will take a lot of time and might delay the sale for months. But we might send out some units as the GB progresses.
Post by: ZongZiWang on Fri, 11 June 2021, 11:06:25
Possible to desolder the one you have and send to streamers to save time and also give people some ideas of it?Have you guys thought about sending to streamers for streaming? Nowadays for GB, I'd like to see how the board is structured and built, rather than single typing sound video.
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There's currently no plans to send protos to streamers at least before the actual sale. Making new protos to send out will take a lot of time and might delay the sale for months. But we might send out some units as the GB progresses.
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Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 11 June 2021, 11:50:58
now that's what i'm waiting for sooo long!dont get anything wrong, cuz i want this beautiful board so bad. so i'm tired of waitingThe wait is almost over, the sale itself has been finalized for 25-30 of June. In the meantime we're having a bit of a hard time recording a sound test that reflects reality and we'd really like to post something that's at least close to the real thing.
have you guys finalized detail about GB method, unit quantity and price?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 11 June 2021, 11:56:58
GB method will be a pre-order (FCFS style), 250 units and 350€ excluding shipping but including VAT. Price is subject to fluctuate a tiny bit due to some added material costs (the price of raw material has increased by about 20%), we're waiting on the final factory quotes but the price won't increase by more than 15€ if it increases at all.now that's what i'm waiting for sooo long!dont get anything wrong, cuz i want this beautiful board so bad. so i'm tired of waitingThe wait is almost over, the sale itself has been finalized for 25-30 of June. In the meantime we're having a bit of a hard time recording a sound test that reflects reality and we'd really like to post something that's at least close to the real thing.
have you guys finalized detail about GB method, unit quantity and price?
Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 11 June 2021, 12:14:53
GB method will be a pre-order (FCFS style), 250 units and 350€ excluding shipping but including VAT. Price is subject to fluctuate a tiny bit due to some added material costs (the price of raw material has increased by about 20%), we're waiting on the final factory quotes but the price won't increase by more than 15€ if it increases at all.now that's what i'm waiting for sooo long!dont get anything wrong, cuz i want this beautiful board so bad. so i'm tired of waitingThe wait is almost over, the sale itself has been finalized for 25-30 of June. In the meantime we're having a bit of a hard time recording a sound test that reflects reality and we'd really like to post something that's at least close to the real thing.
have you guys finalized detail about GB method, unit quantity and price?
wallet ✅
my body is sooo ready !
last question: will there be other plate material, like fr4 or CF offerred?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 11 June 2021, 12:17:08
Not in this run, there will be however plate files published so you can cut whatever you want.GB method will be a pre-order (FCFS style), 250 units and 350€ excluding shipping but including VAT. Price is subject to fluctuate a tiny bit due to some added material costs (the price of raw material has increased by about 20%), we're waiting on the final factory quotes but the price won't increase by more than 15€ if it increases at all.now that's what i'm waiting for sooo long!dont get anything wrong, cuz i want this beautiful board so bad. so i'm tired of waitingThe wait is almost over, the sale itself has been finalized for 25-30 of June. In the meantime we're having a bit of a hard time recording a sound test that reflects reality and we'd really like to post something that's at least close to the real thing.
have you guys finalized detail about GB method, unit quantity and price?
wallet ✅
my body is sooo ready !
last question: will there be other plate material, like fr4 or CF offerred?
Post by: fakedSkill on Fri, 11 June 2021, 14:29:07
GB method will be a pre-order (FCFS style), 250 units and 350€ excluding shipping but including VAT. Price is subject to fluctuate a tiny bit due to some added material costs (the price of raw material has increased by about 20%), we're waiting on the final factory quotes but the price won't increase by more than 15€ if it increases at all.
Great news, thank you for the update!
Can't wait! 💸
Post by: xElegy on Tue, 15 June 2021, 00:32:11
Are there any plans for a prototype build video/stream from maybe yourself or a content creator?
Also how is the the bottom part going to turn out? Will it be color matched to the top portion or can you choose what bottom color you want?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 15 June 2021, 04:24:11
Been keeping up with this project for while now and im fairly exicted for this to finally happen. But i still have some questions.
Are there any plans for a prototype build video/stream from maybe yourself or a content creator?
Also how is the the bottom part going to turn out? Will it be color matched to the top portion or can you choose what bottom color you want?
There are currently no plans for a build stream but once we record the sound test videos we will record a build/ showcase video to show how the insides are, how to assemble etc.
As far as the bottom piece goes you will be able to pick any color you want. If you want a matching top and bottom you'll be able to do that no issue, as well as combine different colors.
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Post by: Finite on Thu, 17 June 2021, 22:16:00
GB method will be a pre-order (FCFS style), 250 units and 350€ excluding shipping but including VAT. Price is subject to fluctuate a tiny bit due to some added material costs (the price of raw material has increased by about 20%), we're waiting on the final factory quotes but the price won't increase by more than 15€ if it increases at all.
As far as the bottom piece goes you will be able to pick any color you want. If you want a matching top and bottom you'll be able to do that no issue, as well as combine different colors.
Hyped. Price is a bit high, but it's understandable considering what's happening (the Gothic70's price went up by over 25% due to tariffs). Hoping the shipping to CONUS won't be that bad, but I'm already expecting the worse. Customizable top and bottom pieces is a huge plus for me, especially since I absolutely love many of the color combos in the renders. I'm ready for this GB, my wallet is going to be decimated by both this and the Mode65.
Post by: diskonex on Fri, 18 June 2021, 12:51:10
Post by: xElegy on Sun, 20 June 2021, 13:24:21
Feels kinda wierd purchasing this board without knowing beforehand.
Post by: Galk on Mon, 21 June 2021, 01:06:14
Is the sound test or showcase/build video going to happend before the actual group buy phase?
Feels kinda wierd purchasing this board without knowing beforehand.
Have you guys thought about sending to streamers for streaming? Nowadays for GB, I'd like to see how the board is structured and built, rather than single typing sound video.
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There's currently no plans to send protos to streamers at least before the actual sale. Making new protos to send out will take a lot of time and might delay the sale for months. But we might send out some units as the GB progresses.
Post by: xElegy on Mon, 21 June 2021, 11:00:13
Is the sound test or showcase/build video going to happend before the actual group buy phase?
Feels kinda wierd purchasing this board without knowing beforehand.Have you guys thought about sending to streamers for streaming? Nowadays for GB, I'd like to see how the board is structured and built, rather than single typing sound video.
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There's currently no plans to send protos to streamers at least before the actual sale. Making new protos to send out will take a lot of time and might delay the sale for months. But we might send out some units as the GB progresses.
Well but that means there wont be a video about this keyboard from a streamer or content creator no?
HephaestusWorks stated that they will record a sound test and possibly a showcase/build video since they have a proto. So my question, if that is happening before the sale, is directed at them.
Post by: That_One_Brodie on Mon, 21 June 2021, 15:27:16
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Post by: Galk on Tue, 22 June 2021, 08:42:18
Is the sound test or showcase/build video going to happend before the actual group buy phase?
Feels kinda wierd purchasing this board without knowing beforehand.Have you guys thought about sending to streamers for streaming? Nowadays for GB, I'd like to see how the board is structured and built, rather than single typing sound video.
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There's currently no plans to send protos to streamers at least before the actual sale. Making new protos to send out will take a lot of time and might delay the sale for months. But we might send out some units as the GB progresses.
Well but that means there wont be a video about this keyboard from a streamer or content creator no?
HephaestusWorks stated that they will record a sound test and possibly a showcase/build video since they have a proto. So my question, if that is happening before the sale, is directed at them.
Yes i would think that you are correct in regards to the content creator statement.
I would personally like if there was at least a showcase video/steram before release so i get a good feel for what im buying exactly.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 23 June 2021, 05:55:39
https://soundcloud.com/hephaestus-works/nasu2/s-dauCkAep6DC
Build: POM plate, lubed with 205g0 H1 switches
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 23 June 2021, 05:57:27
will there be a matching wrist rest available? i want a wood or marble one!There will be one designed after GB is completed.
Post by: soloplayer on Wed, 23 June 2021, 06:03:49
Hello everyone, first simple sound test is finally recorded. Excuse the tons of feedback, we couldn't figure out how to remove that without disturbing the recording and altering the sounds. That said to answer some of the questions above, we're waiting on a tripod to start recording the videos as well. The video will be a 2/1, the first part will be a showcase of the insides and assembly video and the other will be another sound test of the assembled board. And yes they will both come before the actual sale of the board.
https://soundcloud.com/hephaestus-works/nasu2/s-dauCkAep6DC
sound so niceee! and shout out to a matching wrist rest!!
how about exact date and time for GB?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 23 June 2021, 06:07:38
That's still TBA, the date currently is set for June 30th but that might be pushed back by a week or so depending on how the website progresses and of course depending on if the the tests are recorded by then. Like we mentioned we want to get everything out before we start the sale. Very sorry for the constant delays but it's a very busy time for everyone working on this project.Hello everyone, first simple sound test is finally recorded. Excuse the tons of feedback, we couldn't figure out how to remove that without disturbing the recording and altering the sounds. That said to answer some of the questions above, we're waiting on a tripod to start recording the videos as well. The video will be a 2/1, the first part will be a showcase of the insides and assembly video and the other will be another sound test of the assembled board. And yes they will both come before the actual sale of the board.
https://soundcloud.com/hephaestus-works/nasu2/s-dauCkAep6DC
sound so niceee! and shout out to a matching wrist rest!!
how about exact date and time for GB?
Post by: Minahctrl on Wed, 23 June 2021, 14:04:03
Post by: Galk on Wed, 23 June 2021, 15:38:51
ISO compatible?
I you look at the pictute i have linked bellow you will see thet the enter key extends further out than the backslash key making ISO unlikley.
https://i.postimg.cc/1Xjn6LkQ/IMG-20201112-220006-913.jpg
Post by: That_One_Brodie on Tue, 29 June 2021, 19:02:08
That's still TBA, the date currently is set for June 30th but that might be pushed back by a week or so depending on how the website progresses and of course depending on if the the tests are recorded by then. Like we mentioned we want to get everything out before we start the sale. Very sorry for the constant delays but it's a very busy time for everyone working on this project.Hello everyone, first simple sound test is finally recorded. Excuse the tons of feedback, we couldn't figure out how to remove that without disturbing the recording and altering the sounds. That said to answer some of the questions above, we're waiting on a tripod to start recording the videos as well. The video will be a 2/1, the first part will be a showcase of the insides and assembly video and the other will be another sound test of the assembled board. And yes they will both come before the actual sale of the board.
https://soundcloud.com/hephaestus-works/nasu2/s-dauCkAep6DC
sound so niceee! and shout out to a matching wrist rest!!
how about exact date and time for GB?
Sale still set for the 30th?
Post by: hiddensong on Tue, 29 June 2021, 23:58:12
Post by: Dandy on Wed, 30 June 2021, 00:14:07
The is no gb link at the moment, but it'll be somewhere on keebwerk when it does go live.
Post by: Galk on Wed, 30 June 2021, 02:23:31
Since today is the 30th and we still haven't seen sound tests I'd say its safe to assume it's going to be a bit more time like they mentioned above.
The is no gb link at the moment, but it'll be somewhere on keebwerk when it does go live.
Isn't this the sound test that HephaestusWorks posted 7 days ago?
https://soundcloud.com/hephaestus-works/nasu2/s-dauCkAep6DC
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 30 June 2021, 03:14:56
Unfortunately not, we run into some issues with setting up the web page and configurator. The new (and final) sale date is July 10th. Exact time will be announced within the week.That's still TBA, the date currently is set for June 30th but that might be pushed back by a week or so depending on how the website progresses and of course depending on if the the tests are recorded by then. Like we mentioned we want to get everything out before we start the sale. Very sorry for the constant delays but it's a very busy time for everyone working on this project.Hello everyone, first simple sound test is finally recorded. Excuse the tons of feedback, we couldn't figure out how to remove that without disturbing the recording and altering the sounds. That said to answer some of the questions above, we're waiting on a tripod to start recording the videos as well. The video will be a 2/1, the first part will be a showcase of the insides and assembly video and the other will be another sound test of the assembled board. And yes they will both come before the actual sale of the board.
https://soundcloud.com/hephaestus-works/nasu2/s-dauCkAep6DC
sound so niceee! and shout out to a matching wrist rest!!
how about exact date and time for GB?
Sale still set for the 30th?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 30 June 2021, 03:16:06
I cannot find where the GB will be held at. Can someone drop a link for my dumb ass, please?
GB will be held at the Keebwerk website on July 10th, exact time will be announced within the week.
Post by: bigapplepietart on Fri, 02 July 2021, 22:02:12
Post by: soloplayer on Tue, 06 July 2021, 19:07:24
I cannot find where the GB will be held at. Can someone drop a link for my dumb ass, please?
GB will be held at the Keebwerk website on July 10th, exact time will be announced within the week.
hello!!! guys??!!
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 06 July 2021, 19:19:50
Hello there, the sale time hasn't been determined yet. The video has been recorded and is now being edited (it's going to be posted tomorrow). Along with the vid there will come an update about some final details.I cannot find where the GB will be held at. Can someone drop a link for my dumb ass, please?
GB will be held at the Keebwerk website on July 10th, exact time will be announced within the week.
hello!!! guys??!!
Post by: fakedSkill on Wed, 07 July 2021, 01:42:21
Hello there, the sale time hasn't been determined yet. The video has been recorded and is now being edited (it's going to be posted tomorrow). Along with the vid there will come an update about some final details.
HYPE! :eek:
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 07 July 2021, 01:58:52
Now for some updates. For starters regarding the colors the deep grey will most likely be removed for simplicities sake, at least for this round.
Here are some samples of the red and blue:
(https://i.postimg.cc/gk9Sn4B6/41-D13-A99-12-D4-485-F-B055-66-A8-EC00-A644.jpg)
And here are some samples of the brass:
(https://i.postimg.cc/j2TfrWZC/1ca7bc97-bec7-47e9-b365-368606bc26ef.jpg)
Finally regarding the sale, the time will be announced soon. Thank you everyone for your patience with this project! It's almost time!!!
Post by: soloplayer on Wed, 07 July 2021, 09:04:25
Post by: pax0s on Wed, 07 July 2021, 21:45:46
Alright alright, it's here everyone! The preview video can be found here (https://youtu.be/-SeWPNWmdMk)
Now for some updates. For starters regarding the colors the deep grey will most likely be removed for simplicities sake, at least for this round.
Here are some samples of the red and blue:Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/gk9Sn4B6/41-D13-A99-12-D4-485-F-B055-66-A8-EC00-A644.jpg)
And here are some samples of the brass:Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/j2TfrWZC/1ca7bc97-bec7-47e9-b365-368606bc26ef.jpg)
Finally regarding the sale, the time will be announced soon. Thank you everyone for your patience with this project! It's almost time!!!
Is the deep purple color still running? Are there samples of that color?
Post by: Snakeyh on Fri, 09 July 2021, 08:38:54
Post by: actress on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:01:55
What are the layouts for this board? Is it only the one showed in pictures? No stepped caps?
Any form of ETA for shipping? How many units?
Post by: Taziza on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:17:57
However, I am also very concerned with this project and GB, 1 day from the group by and no info is available (units, time, what extras are available - wrist rest, plates, pcb, etc.).
Hence it is understandable the team is working really hard, and building a keyboard is not an easy task. However, some additional respect (therefore transparency) for the people interested would be appreciated.
Hope more info gets available.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:22:45
Looks like a cool board that I'd like to buy, but I'm concerned with how little info there is so close to the GB.Most of these questions have been answered in comments in the thread but we'll edit them into the post as well. The layout is the standard alice layout:
What are the layouts for this board? Is it only the one showed in pictures? No stepped caps?
Any form of ETA for shipping? How many units?
(https://i.postimg.cc/rm3qYCMR/Wanderland-Layouts-01-2048x729.png)
The available units will be 250 with an MOQ of 150.
As far as the ETA, it's currently 5 months but the factory will give us a better estimate once production has started. Obviously there are a lot of things that can affect that
timeline currently so please take that with a grain of salt.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:27:48
I am also looking for this keyboard: alice style + sold in EU + Gasket mount + decent price should a very good combination.Time is being scheduled, right now and will not be revealed til the actual day of the GB. Like we mentioned on the other comment, everything you are requesting has been discussed above.
However, I am also very concerned with this project and GB, 1 day from the group by and no info is available (units, time, what extras are available - wrist rest, plates, pcb, etc.).
Hence it is understandable the team is working really hard, and building a keyboard is not an easy task. However, some additional respect (therefore transparency) for the people interested would be appreciated.
Hope more info gets available.
But to answer your question: 250 units, no time yet, you will be able to add extra plates and pcbs to your order, no wrist rest in the GB.
Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:29:03
and will there be a actual GB post?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:30:12
so will you reveal the exact time now? we are getting closer to GB dayTime will be revealed tomorrow, but obviously long before the actual GB time.
Post by: Dandy on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:32:40
Also your layout shows 4 macros while the proto only has 3
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:35:20
We don't have anodization samples just yet but we are matching it to PANTONE 20-0120 TPM Rose OnyxAlright alright, it's here everyone! The preview video can be found here (https://youtu.be/-SeWPNWmdMk)
Now for some updates. For starters regarding the colors the deep grey will most likely be removed for simplicities sake, at least for this round.
Here are some samples of the red and blue:Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/gk9Sn4B6/41-D13-A99-12-D4-485-F-B055-66-A8-EC00-A644.jpg)
And here are some samples of the brass:Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/j2TfrWZC/1ca7bc97-bec7-47e9-b365-368606bc26ef.jpg)
Finally regarding the sale, the time will be announced soon. Thank you everyone for your patience with this project! It's almost time!!!
Is the deep purple color still running? Are there samples of that color?
of which we have a pantone sample (it is the one on the left)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQYtxD1D/image0.jpg)
Post by: Snakeyh on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:38:21
This makes it much easier to make a decision without stressing out once the GB itself has started.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:40:03
Can you provide us with all the available options and their corresponding price before the start of the actual GB?Yep, we'll post everything on the main post by tonight.
This makes it much easier to make a decision without stressing out once the GB itself has started.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:41:15
Why are you withholding the sale time 24hrs in advance? How are people from different time zones supposed to plan for that?Ah sorry about that, Nasu only has 3 macros but everything else is the same. Standard alice layout.
Also your layout shows 4 macros while the proto only has 3
As far as the time goes, you have a point. We'll post it along with all the other info in the main post tonight.
Post by: rt_es on Fri, 09 July 2021, 10:52:16
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 11:32:42
I assume e-white is still an option?Yes it is
Post by: That_One_Brodie on Fri, 09 July 2021, 13:10:19
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 13:15:21
I'm a little confused. When you say "main post" are you referring to the first page of this geekhack thread? Or a new GB thread? Thank you for the clarification.By main post we mean the top post of the IC page (the one with all the info, renders, etc etc). So yes like you mentioned the the first post on the first page of the thread.
Post by: nanooq on Fri, 09 July 2021, 17:14:25
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 18:03:36
I'm confused... It is the 10th in Europe and we still don't have times?The sale info has just been posted, please check out the top of the IC page.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 18:04:34
Post by: cigs_coffee on Fri, 09 July 2021, 18:18:01
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 18:20:02
So, basically this means 20 GMT, right?Yes
Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 09 July 2021, 18:27:45
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 18:31:52
does the alu kit has the leaf spring or non leaf spring alu plate?It has the leaf spring plate. The only plate that doesn't have the leaf spring is the POM. We felt that the flex provided by the leaf spring really complimented the metal plates. If you want a non real spring alu plate there will be files available after the GB so you can cut your own.
Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 09 July 2021, 18:36:05
Post by: VACasian on Fri, 09 July 2021, 18:37:27
Post by: rt_es on Fri, 09 July 2021, 19:29:31
Really excited for this. Any estimates on GB fulfilment times?
Bottom section in IC states 5 months.
Post by: PhantomKyubii on Fri, 09 July 2021, 20:17:09
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 20:19:23
Has the date of the GB been released yet? Either I'm blind or I don't see it in the update.We moved it to the top of the post so it's easier to spot. Pretty hard to miss really. It's on the main post, on the first page.
Post by: PhantomKyubii on Fri, 09 July 2021, 20:23:05
Hmmm I seem to only see the time of the sale. Ill see if its another page.Has the date of the GB been released yet? Either I'm blind or I don't see it in the update.We moved it to the top of the post so it's easier to spot. Pretty hard to miss really. It's on the main post, on the first page.
Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 09 July 2021, 20:28:54
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 09 July 2021, 20:36:04
again, ne discord avail?Not yet, there will be one made though. Or a nasu channel merged into an already existing server.
Post by: shawnlin on Fri, 09 July 2021, 22:22:20
Post by: cigs_coffee on Sat, 10 July 2021, 00:34:58
He / she is right though. Sale info only seems to be listing the time but not the date. Maybe you want to add it for clarity's sake?Has the date of the GB been released yet? Either I'm blind or I don't see it in the update.We moved it to the top of the post so it's easier to spot. Pretty hard to miss really. It's on the main post, on the first page.
Anyways, i'll be there - the 10th, boys & girls ;)
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 10 July 2021, 01:01:51
It's been added!He / she is right though. Sale info only seems to be listing the time but not the date. Maybe you want to add it for clarity's sake?Has the date of the GB been released yet? Either I'm blind or I don't see it in the update.We moved it to the top of the post so it's easier to spot. Pretty hard to miss really. It's on the main post, on the first page.
Anyways, i'll be there - the 10th, boys & girls ;)
Post by: ZongZiWang on Sat, 10 July 2021, 01:39:44
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 10 July 2021, 01:48:25
It's Oct 7th for the GB time? Better to have a countdown (like https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/create) to reduce confusion on the timezone stuff.No the sale is today. The date is formated like dd/mm/yy.. But yes we'll make one of those countdowns and attach it to the post. Thank you for the suggestion!
Post by: cigs_coffee on Sat, 10 July 2021, 04:11:53
Info states 20.00 hours GMT.
Current GMT time is 09.07 hours, your countdown shows 09hours 53min to go. Doesn't quite add up or am i wrong?
I'm missing an hour either in the countdown or the sale info provided. Or am i completely off track?
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 10 July 2021, 04:44:00
Sorry for coming off like an ass hat here. Something's off with your timer?
Info states 20.00 hours GMT.
Current GMT time is 09.07 hours, your countdown shows 09hours 53min to go. Doesn't quite add up or am i wrong?
I'm missing an hour either in the countdown or the sale info provided. Or am i completely off track?
It could be the +1 hour for summer daylight on the GMT. I can't wait to try and get one of these. Very excited.
Post by: cigs_coffee on Sat, 10 July 2021, 04:50:34
youch, excited as well. Which color, which color.... :rolleyes:Sorry for coming off like an ass hat here. Something's off with your timer?
Info states 20.00 hours GMT.
Current GMT time is 09.07 hours, your countdown shows 09hours 53min to go. Doesn't quite add up or am i wrong?
I'm missing an hour either in the countdown or the sale info provided. Or am i completely off track?
It could be the +1 hour for summer daylight on the GMT. I can't wait to try and get one of these. Very excited.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 10 July 2021, 04:57:50
Sorry for coming off like an ass hat here. Something's off with your timer?The info states GMT+1, so basically UK time. Right now it's 10;56pm UK time (GMT+1). The GB is at 20:00pm UK time, so in 9 hours.
Info states 20.00 hours GMT.
Current GMT time is 09.07 hours, your countdown shows 09hours 53min to go. Doesn't quite add up or am i wrong?
I'm missing an hour either in the countdown or the sale info provided. Or am i completely off track?
Post by: soloplayer on Sat, 10 July 2021, 05:06:19
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 10 July 2021, 05:27:20
which aluminium alloy do you use for plate? 5052 or 6061?6061-T6, our factory can't supply 5052 at the moment.
Post by: cigs_coffee on Sat, 10 July 2021, 06:03:43
Ok, got it :)Sorry for coming off like an ass hat here. Something's off with your timer?The info states GMT+1, so basically UK time. Right now it's 10;56pm UK time (GMT+1). The GB is at 20:00pm UK time, so in 9 hours.
Info states 20.00 hours GMT.
Current GMT time is 09.07 hours, your countdown shows 09hours 53min to go. Doesn't quite add up or am i wrong?
I'm missing an hour either in the countdown or the sale info provided. Or am i completely off track?
Thanks for clearing it up for me
Post by: SkyBoy on Sat, 10 July 2021, 08:56:19
I'm getting paid on Monday and I'm afraid I won't make it in time :/
Post by: Taziza on Sat, 10 July 2021, 10:44:15
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 10 July 2021, 11:30:25
The wrists rests will be available after the GB along with extra plates, or all those options will be available on the GB?Wristrests will come after the GB, extra plates will be offered today though.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 10 July 2021, 11:32:22
Any idea how much time we have to pay if we choose the PayPal option?I'm afraid the payment will have to happen right away since it's FCFS. However there are 250 units available so there might still be some left by Monday.
I'm getting paid on Monday and I'm afraid I won't make it in time :/
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 10 July 2021, 13:40:51
Due to technical difficulties the sale will have to be rescheduled to tomorrow. The server that is hosting the configurator is malfunctioning. The keebwerk IT people will be working all night to get it up and running by tomorrow monring.
The sale will be rescheduled to 15:00 GMT+1
We're terribly sorry for this, Keebwerk will be working tirelessly to figure this out.
Post by: Taziza on Sat, 10 July 2021, 13:51:16
Look forward for the GB tomorrow.
Based on the comments, no hotswap version will be available. Is this correct?
Lastly, will any foam, or other included on the packaging (case and pcb-plate foam)?
Thank you, and once more looking forward for tomorrow's GB.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 10 July 2021, 13:54:20
Hope everything gets sorted out.Yes, the pcb is solder only. And we will be cutting some custom pieces of EVA foam, but only for the case. So no foam in between the plate and pcb.
Look forward for the GB tomorrow.
Based on the comments, no hotswap version will be available. Is this correct?
Lastly, will any foam, or other included on the packaging (case and pcb-plate foam)?
Thank you, and once more looking forward for tomorrow's GB.
Post by: Taziza on Sat, 10 July 2021, 14:07:49
Hence, millmax should be possible?
Post by: growler on Sat, 10 July 2021, 14:33:02
Thank you so much for the reply.Good question. think the millmax sockets are 100pct the best result if you get them right. Way better longevity and tighter hold than kailh hot swap.
Hence, millmax should be possible?
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Post by: Taziza on Sun, 11 July 2021, 05:16:50
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 05:19:03
Yes, it would be good to get some official confirmation, since not all PCB allow millmax.We haven't tested mil max, nor are we planning to. The pcb is solder only, you can try using the sockets but at your own risk.
Post by: growler on Sun, 11 July 2021, 05:28:20
Could you drop one in would at least give us an indication if it's a definite no?Yes, it would be good to get some official confirmation, since not all PCB allow millmax.We haven't tested mil max, nor are we planning to. The pcb is solder only, you can try using the sockets but at your own risk.
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 05:30:20
Unfortunately not, we don't have any at hand at the moment.Could you drop one in would at least give us an indication if it's a definite no?Yes, it would be good to get some official confirmation, since not all PCB allow millmax.We haven't tested mil max, nor are we planning to. The pcb is solder only, you can try using the sockets but at your own risk.
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Post by: mariocs on Sun, 11 July 2021, 06:03:53
Is it going to be like that in the final version? If I buy it E-White or Black, is it going to have a silver color under the keyboard? Or it will be the same color as the rest of it?
Thanks!
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 06:07:26
Hello! Quick question, I see in the pictures of the black keyboard, the bottom plate is silver instead of black.The color of the prototype pictured is black top and silver bottom. You'll be able to choose what color you want for each of those pieces. So if you want an E-white top and bottom you can do that, or if you want an e-white top and a black bottom for example.
Is it going to be like that in the final version? If I buy it E-White or Black, is it going to have a silver color under the keyboard? Or it will be the same color as the rest of it?
Thanks!
Post by: mariocs on Sun, 11 July 2021, 06:09:11
Hello! Quick question, I see in the pictures of the black keyboard, the bottom plate is silver instead of black.The color of the prototype pictured is black top and silver bottom. You'll be able to choose what color you want for each of those pieces. So if you want an E-white top and bottom you can do that, or if you want an e-white top and a black bottom for example.
Is it going to be like that in the final version? If I buy it E-White or Black, is it going to have a silver color under the keyboard? Or it will be the same color as the rest of it?
Thanks!
Wow that’s awesome! Thanks for the fast response, less than 3 hours to buy this!!
Post by: Gao on Sun, 11 July 2021, 07:58:55
Is led indicator customizable? Want to change it layer 1/2/3 instead of caps, scroll and num lock.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 08:00:34
Can I buy two boards in two different orders?No you cannot. Only 1 board per person. And yes the LED's will be fully programmable with QMK.
Is led indicator customizable? Want to change it layer 1/2/3 instead of caps, scroll and num lock.
Post by: PhantomKyubii on Sun, 11 July 2021, 08:09:47
Can I buy two boards in two different orders?No you cannot. Only 1 board per person. And yes the LED's will be fully programmable with QMK.
Is led indicator customizable? Want to change it layer 1/2/3 instead of caps, scroll and num lock.
Is it via compatible?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 08:11:43
Not currently, but we may look into compatibility in the future.Can I buy two boards in two different orders?No you cannot. Only 1 board per person. And yes the LED's will be fully programmable with QMK.
Is led indicator customizable? Want to change it layer 1/2/3 instead of caps, scroll and num lock.
Is it via compatible?
Post by: soloplayer on Sun, 11 July 2021, 08:31:06
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 08:32:28
please ask Yiancar for VIA compatibility! i think it wont be a hard job for him, considering his previous works already have VIA supportWill do!
Post by: Taziza on Sun, 11 July 2021, 08:42:03
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:02:17
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:04:03
Can't get access, the server must be taking a hammering.It is, it will be up in a few minutes tops. Just keep refreshing the page.
Post by: mariocs on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:04:28
Post by: growler on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:04:58
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Post by: Seaturtle on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:06:18
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:06:34
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:08:11
Post by: Gao on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:09:43
Post by: Taziza on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:10:48
Post by: soloplayer on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:13:49
keebwerk website is sh*t
Post by: int on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:14:54
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:16:29
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:16:50
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:17:34
please switch to google form!!It's not the website, it's the sheer number of traffic at once. Hosting this people at once requires serious power.
keebwerk website is sh*t
Post by: mariocs on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:19:55
What's the traffic for this lol, I highly doubt is because of trafficplease switch to google form!!It's not the website, it's the sheer number of traffic at once. Hosting this people at once requires serious power.
keebwerk website is sh*t
Post by: cigs_coffee on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:21:27
i have to peeNow's the time :)
Post by: int on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:23:14
nice tryi have to peeNow's the time :P
Post by: akhi4u on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:28:29
Post by: PhantomKyubii on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:37:35
Post by: QuackerJ on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:42:55
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:44:13
Post by: PhantomKyubii on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:46:40
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:47:26
I need a password to configure board??You do not, the password is there so people don't crash the page before it's fixed
Post by: akhi4u on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:48:19
Post by: growler on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:49:09
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:49:49
What's the password? Dam!Please read a couple of posts before posting yourself, this has been answer literally in the comment above
Post by: QuackerJ on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:50:53
Post by: growler on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:51:43
please ask Yiancar for VIA compatibility! i think it wont be a hard job for him, considering his previous works already have VIA supportWill do!
Huh?? "Dam!" You mean? That's doesn't work....What's the password? Dam!Please read a couple of posts before posting yourself, this has been answer literally in the comment above
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Post by: mariocs on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:52:49
Post by: rt_es on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:54:56
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:55:13
Post by: nanooq on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:58:17
Some hopefully constructive feedback for next time around:
- Communicate the time and date of the GB start clearly at least one week in advance on the top of the main page
- Test the backend systems prior to going live - I have the strong impression this was not the case, at least not extensively
- Keep information up to date... Keebwerk is the main vendor but the only information on their page is extremely outdated - from 2020. This does not leave a positive impression
Post by: PhantomKyubii on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:59:39
I have gotten to the thank you page, but I'm afraid to close it since i have not yet received a confirmation email about my order
Post by: Dandy on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:00:48
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:01:54
Will there be a confirmation email or anything after we have ordered?If you are sure you used the correct email, please check your spam. Or please contact us on discord so we can foward your request to keebwerk support.
I have gotten to the thank you page, but I'm afraid to close it since i have not yet received a confirmation email about my order
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:02:21
Post by: soloplayer on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:02:39
Post by: bukowski on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:02:52
Post by: mariocs on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:09:35
Post by: Milky_Mooncake on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:10:19
Let's hope that production goes way better than this whole process. x_x
Post by: soloplayer on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:10:24
please help me!!
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:10:30
Black Top, Red Bottom, Brass Plate
Post by: Snakeyh on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:11:11
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:12:46
Ordered! Looking forward to this. Please coordinate a discord channel/server, I would love to see what configurations people went for.That is happening in the next few days!
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:13:37
**** i filled wrong state for shipping address :'( how can i change that??Please send an email at support@keebwerk.com
please help me!!
Post by: PhantomKyubii on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:14:06
Post by: soloplayer on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:14:22
Post by: akhi4u on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:14:32
Post by: rt_es on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:15:17
Post by: soloplayer on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:17:28
**** i filled wrong state for shipping address :'( how can i change that??Please send an email at support@keebwerk.com
please help me!!
wow keebwerk did send me an email with modified shipping address.
bravo for the support!!
Post by: balbin on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:20:34
Post by: growler on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:20:58
Thanks for the panic helping all.
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Post by: growler on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:21:49
Did you guys receive an order confirmation email after finalizing your orders?I did
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Post by: nanooq on Sun, 11 July 2021, 11:00:04
The configurator is great, the fast reactions to get it up have also been super. To save us all stress next time it might be better to set a fixed time delay if things go wrong to prevent the refresh spam and FOMO. The updates via the forums have definitely helped alot, so great stuff there!
In the configurator the ALU Silver plate looks very white, is that the case or is it really silver silver?
Post by: soloplayer on Sun, 11 July 2021, 11:04:23
tbh that's not a dealbreaker for me. i always want to try a thick plate with tactile.
but frankly, you guys should take this as a good lesson for future products. this GB isnt a good experience for everyone.
anyways, GLwGB. and i'm looking forward to a discord server, for frequent updates.
Post by: Gao on Sun, 11 July 2021, 11:05:56
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 11:06:42
wow now i have time to look back at description. i've just found out that nasu uses 3mm thick plate, but IC doesnt mention that.It does not, the plate is a standard 1.5mm. We'll let keebwerk know so they can fix that error. Very sorry for the confusion.
tbh that's not a dealbreaker for me. i always want to try a thick plate with tactile.
but frankly, you guys should take this as a good lesson for future products. this GB isnt a good experience for everyone.
anyways, GLwGB. and i'm looking forward to a discord server, for frequent updates.
Post by: soloplayer on Sun, 11 July 2021, 11:11:57
now this is reassuring
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 11:20:19
My brother lives with me and he wants one as well. Can he order one using his account but the shipping address would be the same as mine?Yes he can order no problem, it's a different person.
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 11 July 2021, 12:12:08
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 12:14:00
I ordered ok but I have not so far received an order confirmation.If it's not in your spam, wait a bit. If it doesn't show up please contact keebwerk support for confirmation.
Post by: QuackerJ on Sun, 11 July 2021, 12:34:44
Post by: Gao on Sun, 11 July 2021, 12:43:04
Post by: PhantomKyubii on Sun, 11 July 2021, 14:27:40
Post by: spaceballstheusername on Sun, 11 July 2021, 15:05:55
Post by: growler on Sun, 11 July 2021, 15:12:06
Why is Keebwerk charging 19% VAT for non-EU orders?That's a shocker, should have checked that
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 15:32:24
Why is Keebwerk charging 19% VAT for non-EU orders?Because regardless of where' it's going it's shipped from Europe. So keebwerk pays VAT for it and therefore charges rhe customer.
Post by: Surostu on Sun, 11 July 2021, 18:38:52
Why is Keebwerk charging 19% VAT for non-EU orders?Because regardless of where' it's going it's shipped from Europe. So keebwerk pays VAT for it and therefore charges rhe customer.
That 19% is included in the checkout page yeah? so if my total is 365 ill be charged 365?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 11 July 2021, 18:43:46
Yes, that has already been factored into the sale price. So the 335€ for the base kit is VAT inclusive.Why is Keebwerk charging 19% VAT for non-EU orders?Because regardless of where' it's going it's shipped from Europe. So keebwerk pays VAT for it and therefore charges rhe customer.
That 19% is included in the checkout page yeah? so if my total is 365 ill be charged 365?
Post by: iamtienng on Sun, 11 July 2021, 20:25:19
Yes, that has already been factored into the sale price. So the 335€ for the base kit is VAT inclusive.Why is Keebwerk charging 19% VAT for non-EU orders?Because regardless of where' it's going it's shipped from Europe. So keebwerk pays VAT for it and therefore charges rhe customer.
That 19% is included in the checkout page yeah? so if my total is 365 ill be charged 365?
So do I need to pay custom duties and fee when it come to my country (in Asia)?
Post by: GLOVE on Sun, 11 July 2021, 20:35:51
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Mon, 12 July 2021, 04:01:13
If your country applies duties and taxes when importing items then yes you do. But that's something that depends on the country.Yes, that has already been factored into the sale price. So the 335€ for the base kit is VAT inclusive.Why is Keebwerk charging 19% VAT for non-EU orders?Because regardless of where' it's going it's shipped from Europe. So keebwerk pays VAT for it and therefore charges rhe customer.
That 19% is included in the checkout page yeah? so if my total is 365 ill be charged 365?
So do I need to pay custom duties and fee when it come to my country (in Asia)?
Post by: rt_es on Mon, 12 July 2021, 08:11:58
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Mon, 12 July 2021, 08:17:14
I assume the packaging will be a regular box and not a hardshell carrying case?That is correct, but we could look into developing a custom case to offer in the future if that's something people are interested in.
Post by: growler on Mon, 12 July 2021, 08:22:24
Definitely. Custom case, wrist rest, cable. In for all of these.I assume the packaging will be a regular box and not a hardshell carrying case?That is correct, but we could look into developing a custom case to offer in the future if that's something people are interested in.
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Post by: actress on Mon, 12 July 2021, 10:31:07
Excited for this board :thumb:
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Mon, 12 July 2021, 10:47:24
How many units left? Is there any form of MoQ?We currently have about half the spots remaining. MOQ is currently at 150.
Excited for this board :thumb:
Post by: growler on Mon, 12 July 2021, 10:51:44
What if MOQ isn't met?How many units left? Is there any form of MoQ?We currently have about half the spots remaining. MOQ is currently at 250.
Excited for this board :thumb:
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Mon, 12 July 2021, 11:04:43
Well we'll let the sale run until he hit MOQ, or at least get relatively close to it.What if MOQ isn't met?How many units left? Is there any form of MoQ?We currently have about half the spots remaining. MOQ is currently at 250.
Excited for this board :thumb:
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Post by: growler on Mon, 12 July 2021, 11:16:42
Cool, godspeedWell we'll let the sale run until he hit MOQ, or at least get relatively close to it.What if MOQ isn't met?How many units left? Is there any form of MoQ?We currently have about half the spots remaining. MOQ is currently at 250.
Excited for this board :thumb:
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Post by: balbin on Mon, 12 July 2021, 11:30:30
How many units left? Is there any form of MoQ?We currently have about half the spots remaining. MOQ is currently at 250.
Excited for this board :thumb:
Is the MOQ changed from the previously stated 150?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Mon, 12 July 2021, 11:52:07
Very sorry, the 250 was a typo. However ideally we'd like to approach as much as possible to the 250 figure before ending the saleHow many units left? Is there any form of MoQ?We currently have about half the spots remaining. MOQ is currently at 250.
Excited for this board :thumb:
Is the MOQ changed from the previously stated 150?
Post by: mariocs on Mon, 12 July 2021, 16:03:16
Is that possible to do? Thank you!
Post by: rt_es on Mon, 12 July 2021, 17:47:02
Post by: StoneTiger on Mon, 12 July 2021, 19:48:37
Post by: wgsunrise on Tue, 13 July 2021, 01:03:04
I believe that some of us doesn't want to join a discord server just to check the updates.
Thank in advance for taking this into consideration.
Edit - typo
Post by: Scriba on Tue, 13 July 2021, 01:53:33
Please create a GB thread and post upgrade in there as well.
I believe that some of us doesn't want to join a discord server just to check the updates.
Thank in advance for taking this into consideration.
this, especially if you want to hit 250 units asap
Post by: acidbern on Tue, 13 July 2021, 03:29:24
Silly question. But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
“ Please be aware of:
this is a barebone keyboard – We assemble your board ready for you to place your switches and caps”
Not that your team will assemble and solder the switches on for the buyer right?
Thanks in advance!
Post by: TjarleN on Tue, 13 July 2021, 04:56:15
But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
Yes, the sentence was probably reused from the Mega. product page (which is a hotswap board).
In this case we most likely will have to take the case appart, solder our own switches on the pcb and put it back together.
The only option of Keebwerk even having switches for your order is if you purchase the one offered switch from the configurator.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 05:00:43
Hi HephaestusWorks,Spoke to keebwerk about this, they accidentally transferred the text from the mega web page, which is hot swap. The Nasu will not come assembled and you'll have to solder it yourself.
Silly question. But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
“ Please be aware of:
this is a barebone keyboard – We assemble your board ready for you to place your switches and caps”
Not that your team will assemble and solder the switches on for the buyer right?
Thanks in advance!
Post by: Taziza on Tue, 13 July 2021, 05:54:36
Post by: acidbern on Tue, 13 July 2021, 06:16:55
Hi HephaestusWorks,Spoke to keebwerk about this, they accidentally transferred the text from the mega web page, which is hot swap. The Nasu will not come assembled and you'll have to solder it yourself.
Silly question. But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
“ Please be aware of:
this is a barebone keyboard – We assemble your board ready for you to place your switches and caps”
Not that your team will assemble and solder the switches on for the buyer right?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for sharing. Thought of just asking to clarify my doubts. I’m looking for hotswap options as I’m an idiot with soldering at the moment. The purple nasu looks really nice though….. :confused:
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 06:35:37
Quick question, will other alice style boards fit on this keyboard?No they will not
Post by: Taziza on Tue, 13 July 2021, 07:38:38
Hi HephaestusWorks,Spoke to keebwerk about this, they accidentally transferred the text from the mega web page, which is hot swap. The Nasu will not come assembled and you'll have to solder it yourself.
Silly question. But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
“ Please be aware of:
this is a barebone keyboard – We assemble your board ready for you to place your switches and caps”
Not that your team will assemble and solder the switches on for the buyer right?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for sharing. Thought of just asking to clarify my doubts. I’m looking for hotswap options as I’m an idiot with soldering at the moment. The purple nasu looks really nice though….. :confused:
I will try the millmax, the same PCB creator has made other boards on the past and, they supported that.
Unfortunately I don't have many switches in stock, and I want to try different plates as well. Therefore, for this type of experimentation it is always good a hotswap board, so lets see how it goes.
Nevertheless, I feel that keebwerk is missing an opportunity by not having a hotswap version. Thus, attending the price advantage, I don't see many people buying plates and PCBs just for the sake of experimentation.
Nevertheless, looking for the board in 5-6 months ;D
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 13 July 2021, 08:04:24
(https://i.imgur.com/EGtBSqY.png)
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 08:11:57
Are there any pictures of the gaskets that you are using for the leaf spring? Are they mounted like on the left or on the right?Close to the right, we'll get some CAD pics soonShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/EGtBSqY.png)
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 08:16:26
Well, it was a conscious design decision not to include hot swap. We feel that hotswapable boards feel well, kinda horrible. But obviously it's up to you to do what you want with your pcb.Hi HephaestusWorks,Spoke to keebwerk about this, they accidentally transferred the text from the mega web page, which is hot swap. The Nasu will not come assembled and you'll have to solder it yourself.
Silly question. But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
“ Please be aware of:
this is a barebone keyboard – We assemble your board ready for you to place your switches and caps”
Not that your team will assemble and solder the switches on for the buyer right?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for sharing. Thought of just asking to clarify my doubts. I’m looking for hotswap options as I’m an idiot with soldering at the moment. The purple nasu looks really nice though….. :confused:
I will try the millmax, the same PCB creator has made other boards on the past and, they supported that.
Unfortunately I don't have many switches in stock, and I want to try different plates as well. Therefore, for this type of experimentation it is always good a hotswap board, so lets see how it goes.
Nevertheless, I feel that keebwerk is missing an opportunity by not having a hotswap version. Thus, attending the price advantage, I don't see many people buying plates and PCBs just for the sake of experimentation.
Nevertheless, looking for the board in 5-6 months ;D
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 08:18:23
Well, it was a conscious design decision not to include hot swap. We feel that hotswapable boards feel, a little bad if not done properly. There's nothing wrong with them obviously, just a personal decision not to include them as we felt that's not representative of the board and experience we wanted to deliver. But obviously it's up to you to do what you want with your pcb.Hi HephaestusWorks,Spoke to keebwerk about this, they accidentally transferred the text from the mega web page, which is hot swap. The Nasu will not come assembled and you'll have to solder it yourself.
Silly question. But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
“ Please be aware of:
this is a barebone keyboard – We assemble your board ready for you to place your switches and caps”
Not that your team will assemble and solder the switches on for the buyer right?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for sharing. Thought of just asking to clarify my doubts. I’m looking for hotswap options as I’m an idiot with soldering at the moment. The purple nasu looks really nice though….. :confused:
I will try the millmax, the same PCB creator has made other boards on the past and, they supported that.
Unfortunately I don't have many switches in stock, and I want to try different plates as well. Therefore, for this type of experimentation it is always good a hotswap board, so lets see how it goes.
Nevertheless, I feel that keebwerk is missing an opportunity by not having a hotswap version. Thus, attending the price advantage, I don't see many people buying plates and PCBs just for the sake of experimentation.
Nevertheless, looking for the board in 5-6 months ;D
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 08:56:08
Well, it was a conscious design decision not to include hot swap. We feel that hotswapable boards feel, a little bad if not done properly. There's nothing wrong with them obviously, just a personal decision not to include them as we felt that's not representative of the board and experience we wanted to deliver. But obviously it's up to you to do what you want with your pcb.Hi HephaestusWorks,Spoke to keebwerk about this, they accidentally transferred the text from the mega web page, which is hot swap. The Nasu will not come assembled and you'll have to solder it yourself.
Silly question. But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
“ Please be aware of:
this is a barebone keyboard – We assemble your board ready for you to place your switches and caps”
Not that your team will assemble and solder the switches on for the buyer right?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for sharing. Thought of just asking to clarify my doubts. I’m looking for hotswap options as I’m an idiot with soldering at the moment. The purple nasu looks really nice though….. :confused:
I will try the millmax, the same PCB creator has made other boards on the past and, they supported that.
Unfortunately I don't have many switches in stock, and I want to try different plates as well. Therefore, for this type of experimentation it is always good a hotswap board, so lets see how it goes.
Nevertheless, I feel that keebwerk is missing an opportunity by not having a hotswap version. Thus, attending the price advantage, I don't see many people buying plates and PCBs just for the sake of experimentation.
Nevertheless, looking for the board in 5-6 months ;D
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:02:04
Well, it was a conscious design decision not to include hot swap. We feel that hotswapable boards feel, a little bad if not done properly. There's nothing wrong with them obviously, just a personal decision not to include them as we felt that's not representative of the board and experience we wanted to deliver. But obviously it's up to you to do what you want with your pcb.Hi HephaestusWorks,Spoke to keebwerk about this, they accidentally transferred the text from the mega web page, which is hot swap. The Nasu will not come assembled and you'll have to solder it yourself.
Silly question. But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
“ Please be aware of:
this is a barebone keyboard – We assemble your board ready for you to place your switches and caps”
Not that your team will assemble and solder the switches on for the buyer right?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for sharing. Thought of just asking to clarify my doubts. I’m looking for hotswap options as I’m an idiot with soldering at the moment. The purple nasu looks really nice though….. :confused:
I will try the millmax, the same PCB creator has made other boards on the past and, they supported that.
Unfortunately I don't have many switches in stock, and I want to try different plates as well. Therefore, for this type of experimentation it is always good a hotswap board, so lets see how it goes.
Nevertheless, I feel that keebwerk is missing an opportunity by not having a hotswap version. Thus, attending the price advantage, I don't see many people buying plates and PCBs just for the sake of experimentation.
Nevertheless, looking for the board in 5-6 months ;D
How do hotswap sockets make a board feel different at all?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:10:05
Because the switches can move in the sockets. The soldered board is one rigid unit. While the hot swap is either, not connected to the pcb at all, allowing for play. Additionally if you remove all the switches the plate falls off. The other way to do hotswap is with standoffs that screw into the plate and keep rhe plate and pcb together. Which is bad because it creates hard spots around the places of the screws, a little counterintuitive on a gasket board that's supposed to create a comfortable feel.Well, it was a conscious design decision not to include hot swap. We feel that hotswapable boards feel, a little bad if not done properly. There's nothing wrong with them obviously, just a personal decision not to include them as we felt that's not representative of the board and experience we wanted to deliver. But obviously it's up to you to do what you want with your pcb.Hi HephaestusWorks,Spoke to keebwerk about this, they accidentally transferred the text from the mega web page, which is hot swap. The Nasu will not come assembled and you'll have to solder it yourself.
Silly question. But this means the buyer will still have to solder the switches on?
“ Please be aware of:
this is a barebone keyboard – We assemble your board ready for you to place your switches and caps”
Not that your team will assemble and solder the switches on for the buyer right?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for sharing. Thought of just asking to clarify my doubts. I’m looking for hotswap options as I’m an idiot with soldering at the moment. The purple nasu looks really nice though….. :confused:
I will try the millmax, the same PCB creator has made other boards on the past and, they supported that.
Unfortunately I don't have many switches in stock, and I want to try different plates as well. Therefore, for this type of experimentation it is always good a hotswap board, so lets see how it goes.
Nevertheless, I feel that keebwerk is missing an opportunity by not having a hotswap version. Thus, attending the price advantage, I don't see many people buying plates and PCBs just for the sake of experimentation.
Nevertheless, looking for the board in 5-6 months ;D
How do hotswap sockets make a board feel different at all?
Post by: mariocs on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:13:43
I did my order yesterday, but now I was thinking to add an extra pcb, and maybe even an extra plate.
Is that possible to do? Thank you!
I feel like this got unanswered, is this a possibility? thank you!
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:21:01
Quote
Because the switches can move in the sockets. The soldered board is one rigid unit. While the hot swap is either, not connected to the pcb at all, allowing for play. Additionally if you remove all the switches the plate falls off. The other way to do hotswap is with standoffs that screw into the plate and keep rhe plate and pcb together. Which is bad because it creates hard spots around the places of the screws, a little counterintuitive on a gasket board that's supposed to create a comfortable feel.
This might be kind of true for 3 pin switches, but not for 5 pin, which are the clear standard in the community. If the plate is well made it will not be a problem.
And I don't see how the plate falling off is relevant? If you desolder all the switches and take them off, the plate will also fall off... And there's a neat little trick to make the plate not fall off which everyone uses, which is to not remove all the switches at the same time...
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:34:52
Sarcastic tone aside, from our experiment 5 pins also suffer from the same issue. Also falling off is a little relevant since one of the supposed nifty little features of hotswap is the ability to ya know, hot swap switches without opening the board. We personally haven't yet come across a board that you can desolder without opening. Now thank you for your snarky comment but I don't feel like we have to elaborate further.QuoteBecause the switches can move in the sockets. The soldered board is one rigid unit. While the hot swap is either, not connected to the pcb at all, allowing for play. Additionally if you remove all the switches the plate falls off. The other way to do hotswap is with standoffs that screw into the plate and keep rhe plate and pcb together. Which is bad because it creates hard spots around the places of the screws, a little counterintuitive on a gasket board that's supposed to create a comfortable feel.
This might be kind of true for 3 pin switches, but not for 5 pin, which are the clear standard in the community. If the plate is well made it will not be a problem.
And I don't see how the plate falling off is relevant? If you desolder all the switches and take them off, the plate will also fall off... And there's a neat little trick to make the plate not fall off which everyone uses, which is to not remove all the switches at the same time...
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:35:31
Sarcastic tone aside, from our experiment 5 pins also suffer from the same issue. Also falling off is a little relevant since one of the supposed nifty little features of hotswap is the ability to ya know, hot swap switches without opening the board. We personally haven't yet come across a board that you can desolder without opening. Now thank you for your snarky comment but we don't feel like we have to elaborate further.QuoteBecause the switches can move in the sockets. The soldered board is one rigid unit. While the hot swap is either, not connected to the pcb at all, allowing for play. Additionally if you remove all the switches the plate falls off. The other way to do hotswap is with standoffs that screw into the plate and keep rhe plate and pcb together. Which is bad because it creates hard spots around the places of the screws, a little counterintuitive on a gasket board that's supposed to create a comfortable feel.
This might be kind of true for 3 pin switches, but not for 5 pin, which are the clear standard in the community. If the plate is well made it will not be a problem.
And I don't see how the plate falling off is relevant? If you desolder all the switches and take them off, the plate will also fall off... And there's a neat little trick to make the plate not fall off which everyone uses, which is to not remove all the switches at the same time...
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:43:50
Sarcastic tone aside, from our experiment 5 pins also suffer from the same issue. Also falling off is a little relevant since one of the supposed nifty little features of hotswap is the ability to ya know, hot swap switches without opening the board. I personally haven't yet come across a board that you can desolder without opening. Now thank you for your snarky comment but I don't feel like we have to elaborate further.QuoteBecause the switches can move in the sockets. The soldered board is one rigid unit. While the hot swap is either, not connected to the pcb at all, allowing for play. Additionally if you remove all the switches the plate falls off. The other way to do hotswap is with standoffs that screw into the plate and keep rhe plate and pcb together. Which is bad because it creates hard spots around the places of the screws, a little counterintuitive on a gasket board that's supposed to create a comfortable feel.
This might be kind of true for 3 pin switches, but not for 5 pin, which are the clear standard in the community. If the plate is well made it will not be a problem.
And I don't see how the plate falling off is relevant? If you desolder all the switches and take them off, the plate will also fall off... And there's a neat little trick to make the plate not fall off which everyone uses, which is to not remove all the switches at the same time...
Ah yes, I love when I am taking a single switch out from my hotswap pcb and the whole pcb falls off and then the whole keyboard falls apart, damn you hotswap pcbs
THE PCB WILL FALL OFF IF YOU TAKE OUT ALL THE SWITCHES AT THE SAME TIME.
How are you not understanding this?
Also, if your 5 pin swiches wobble in hotswap sockets, you either have a swich housing problem or a plate problem (cheese grate plate or bad tolerances).
Post by: Scriba on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:49:45
Post by: Taziza on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:50:17
Sarcastic tone aside, from our experiment 5 pins also suffer from the same issue. Also falling off is a little relevant since one of the supposed nifty little features of hotswap is the ability to ya know, hot swap switches without opening the board. I personally haven't yet come across a board that you can desolder without opening. Now thank you for your snarky comment but we don't feel like we have to elaborate further.QuoteBecause the switches can move in the sockets. The soldered board is one rigid unit. While the hot swap is either, not connected to the pcb at all, allowing for play. Additionally if you remove all the switches the plate falls off. The other way to do hotswap is with standoffs that screw into the plate and keep rhe plate and pcb together. Which is bad because it creates hard spots around the places of the screws, a little counterintuitive on a gasket board that's supposed to create a comfortable feel.
This might be kind of true for 3 pin switches, but not for 5 pin, which are the clear standard in the community. If the plate is well made it will not be a problem.
And I don't see how the plate falling off is relevant? If you desolder all the switches and take them off, the plate will also fall off... And there's a neat little trick to make the plate not fall off which everyone uses, which is to not remove all the switches at the same time...
I might be wrong, but in case of a case foam that is less of an issue in terms of damaging the PCB and the plate.
Furthermore, I believe people change their switches differently specially on custom hotswap boards. On my case, for instance I prefer to take both apart from the case and disassemble as I see fit, I saw the same suggestion on some "how-to" on youtube.
Lastly, no harm on including a note on the keyboard highlighting how to replace switches on the hotswap version.
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 13 July 2021, 09:59:41
Hotswap has a worse sound signature
Do you have a source on this?
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 10:09:36
Oh we understand alright. On the last comment we were just highlighting your non sensical comparison to the pcb falling off after being desoldered. Also, different switches have different tolerances, it's not all about the plate and pcb design, although it does play the biggest role.Sarcastic tone aside, from our experiment 5 pins also suffer from the same issue. Also falling off is a little relevant since one of the supposed nifty little features of hotswap is the ability to ya know, hot swap switches without opening the board. I personally haven't yet come across a board that you can desolder without opening. Now thank you for your snarky comment but I don't feel like we have to elaborate further.QuoteBecause the switches can move in the sockets. The soldered board is one rigid unit. While the hot swap is either, not connected to the pcb at all, allowing for play. Additionally if you remove all the switches the plate falls off. The other way to do hotswap is with standoffs that screw into the plate and keep rhe plate and pcb together. Which is bad because it creates hard spots around the places of the screws, a little counterintuitive on a gasket board that's supposed to create a comfortable feel.
This might be kind of true for 3 pin switches, but not for 5 pin, which are the clear standard in the community. If the plate is well made it will not be a problem.
And I don't see how the plate falling off is relevant? If you desolder all the switches and take them off, the plate will also fall off... And there's a neat little trick to make the plate not fall off which everyone uses, which is to not remove all the switches at the same time...
Ah yes, I love when I am taking a single switch out from my hotswap pcb and the whole pcb falls off and then the whole keyboard falls apart, damn you hotswap pcbs
THE PCB WILL FALL OFF IF YOU TAKE OUT ALL THE SWITCHES AT THE SAME TIME.
How are you not understanding this?
Also, if your 5 pin swiches wobble in hotswap sockets, you either have a swich housing problem or a plate problem (cheese grate plate or bad tolerances).
P.S: just because you don't remove all the switches at once it doesn't mean that the assembly will go flawlessly, if the pcb isn't supported from underneath. There have been many occasions of the pcb being pushed down from something random, enough that you have to disassemble the board to get it back in place. That's why newer boards implement the screw and standoff on rhe plate system.
Post by: growler on Tue, 13 July 2021, 10:18:50
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 10:34:31
Where's my popcorn, this is getting spicy!No, not really haha. It's just a very pointless debate that happened for..... some unknown reason. Considering that Nasu doesn't even have hot swap. We didn't think that being honest about why we didn't include an option was a crime, but at this rate we'll probably have to hire at attorney to give vague answers and leave everyone equally unsatisfied.
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Post by: growler on Tue, 13 July 2021, 10:37:14
Wait, what????Where's my popcorn, this is getting spicy!No, not really haha. It's just a very pointless debate that happened for..... some unknown reason. Considering that Nasu doesn't even have hot swap. We didn't think that being honest about why we didn't include an option was a crime, but at this rate we'll probably have to hire at attorney to give vague answers and leave everyone equally unsatisfied.
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Are you telling me you don't have hotswap? What on earth have I bought???
(Jokes)
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Post by: cutemelon on Tue, 13 July 2021, 12:04:52
Post by: gloomycloud on Tue, 13 July 2021, 14:38:14
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 14:43:02
Just ordered. Btw, any particular reason you go with silicon gaskets instead of poron gaskets?Yes, our vendor keebwerk actually recommended silicone, and after testing both materials on the first prototypes we felt that the silicone provided an overall more unique and comfortable typing experience and acoustic profile.
Post by: mariocs on Tue, 13 July 2021, 15:32:54
Is that possible to do? Thank you!
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Tue, 13 July 2021, 15:34:59
I did my order yesterday, but now I was thinking to add an extra pcb, and maybe even an extra plate.It is, please contact keebwerk support and ask them
Is that possible to do? Thank you!
Post by: rt_es on Tue, 13 July 2021, 19:48:59
Post by: SkyBoy on Tue, 13 July 2021, 20:44:33
A professional video/sound test would be nice
Post by: Altain on Tue, 13 July 2021, 21:22:20
really expecting to get this board on hand!
Post by: gloomycloud on Wed, 14 July 2021, 00:35:21
Sg, looking for a discord server for getting updates easierJust ordered. Btw, any particular reason you go with silicon gaskets instead of poron gaskets?Yes, our vendor keebwerk actually recommended silicone, and after testing both materials on the first prototypes we felt that the silicone provided an overall more unique and comfortable typing experience and acoustic profile.
Post by: Scriba on Wed, 14 July 2021, 01:12:13
Hotswap has a worse sound signature
Do you have a source on this?
mainly personal experience, but i have heard the same comments from most enthusiasts. there are of course (as about everything) also videos of it.
Post by: Curin Derwin on Wed, 14 July 2021, 01:33:40
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 14 July 2021, 13:02:04
Will the anno have a smooth/glazed finish or a matte, fingerprint color-bend finish? It's hard to tell from the photos, but the purple looks nice and smooth.The ano will be matte and very smooth to the touch, the grain is pretty fine. We'll get some close-up shots of the anodized proto for you to inspect.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 14 July 2021, 13:03:01
The server is being made as we speak, will go live tomorrow evening most likely.Sg, looking for a discord server for getting updates easierJust ordered. Btw, any particular reason you go with silicon gaskets instead of poron gaskets?Yes, our vendor keebwerk actually recommended silicone, and after testing both materials on the first prototypes we felt that the silicone provided an overall more unique and comfortable typing experience and acoustic profile.
Post by: Scriba on Wed, 14 July 2021, 14:30:45
Will the anno have a smooth/glazed finish or a matte, fingerprint color-bend finish? It's hard to tell from the photos, but the purple looks nice and smooth.The ano will be matte and very smooth to the touch, the grain is pretty fine. We'll get some close-up shots of the anodized proto for you to inspect.
nice, I am looking forward to it
Post by: tsolin01 on Wed, 14 July 2021, 15:07:47
Hotswap has a worse sound signature
Do you have a source on this?
mainly personal experience, but i have heard the same comments from most enthusiasts. there are of course (as about everything) also videos of it.
This video says he can't tell a difference between hotswap sockets and soldered in terms of sound... from your response I was expecting the video to say hotswap sounds worse.
Post by: cutemelon on Wed, 14 July 2021, 15:25:08
Post by: growler on Wed, 14 July 2021, 15:28:39
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Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 14 July 2021, 15:31:28
BLUE, BLUE AND BLUEWe are hephaestus works, and we approve of this statement
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But we're definitely most excited about the purple.
Post by: growler on Wed, 14 July 2021, 16:49:24
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Post by: PhantomKyubii on Wed, 14 July 2021, 17:13:24
What colors did you guys end up going with?Purple on Purple on Pom :^)
Post by: growler on Wed, 14 July 2021, 17:26:56
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Post by: nihonjam on Wed, 14 July 2021, 18:07:49
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Wed, 14 July 2021, 18:12:08
Any news on opening up to more than one pp if not yet fully subscribed?Yes, we most likely will. We are currently figuring out the logistics of that, shipping will obviously have to be paid again since the volume and mass essentially doubles.. But anyone who wanted it had their chance, so we don't see why we should keep the limitation. That said we're giving buyers some more time, probably untill Friday or Saturday. But we'll let you know for sure by Friday.
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Post by: First Hit Bash Designs on Wed, 14 July 2021, 19:07:06
This is my first alice-style board, been waiting for a nice looking GB for a couple months now. Love the color options and flexibility and it looks like it will be a very solid board.
While this wasn't on my radar at all until the GB post showed up in r/mechgroupbuys, it is very quickly shooting to the top of my list of most-anticipated GB boards that I have pending completion!
GLWGB, eagerly awaiting mine. :thumb:
Post by: forbidden404 on Wed, 14 July 2021, 19:12:57
Post by: wgsunrise on Wed, 14 July 2021, 20:37:14
So, aren't you going to create a GB thread?The server is being made as we speak, will go live tomorrow evening most likely.Sg, looking for a discord server for getting updates easierJust ordered. Btw, any particular reason you go with silicon gaskets instead of poron gaskets?Yes, our vendor keebwerk actually recommended silicone, and after testing both materials on the first prototypes we felt that the silicone provided an overall more unique and comfortable typing experience and acoustic profile.
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Thu, 15 July 2021, 06:49:12
We will, there are people who don't want to join a discord server just for updates. But we're making the server as well, purely because it's way more direct.So, aren't you going to create a GB thread?The server is being made as we speak, will go live tomorrow evening most likely.Sg, looking for a discord server for getting updates easierJust ordered. Btw, any particular reason you go with silicon gaskets instead of poron gaskets?Yes, our vendor keebwerk actually recommended silicone, and after testing both materials on the first prototypes we felt that the silicone provided an overall more unique and comfortable typing experience and acoustic profile.
Post by: gloomycloud on Thu, 15 July 2021, 06:55:34
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Thu, 15 July 2021, 07:08:23
Usually, the GB thread gonna be live during the GB, I guess the GB thread gonna be created after the GB ended? Btw, how many units have sold so far?Well it's gonna be made in the next few days, but other than manufacturing updates a GB thread isn't really needed currently. So there isn't any rush.
As far as units go we're currently at 180
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Thu, 15 July 2021, 07:10:13
Post by: mrvco on Wed, 21 July 2021, 13:28:40
Post by: TjarleN on Thu, 22 July 2021, 00:54:15
Has an image w/ the layouts supported by the PCB been made available somewhere?
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Post by: Scriba on Tue, 27 July 2021, 09:54:05
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 31 July 2021, 12:01:44
Important note. It's a big process so you WON'T have the option to change the order. So please consider carefully when picking. Thank you!
Opening time: 4pm GMT+2 (German time)
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sat, 31 July 2021, 13:43:34
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Sun, 08 August 2021, 04:29:28
Post by: HephaestusWorks on Fri, 21 October 2022, 16:25:55
After the successful delivery of the Nasu (https://imgur.com/a/qULcagx) group buy it's finally time to move into extras. The sale will be happening on Sunday at 21:00 GMT+2. Like last time the method of ordering will be the keebwerk (https://www.keebwerk.com/) configurator.
Extra plates will be available as soon as the boards themselves are sold out. That said, people who buy an extra board will be issued a coupon if they need an extra plate so they don't get charged shipping on the plate order.
If you have any questions or concerns feel free to reach out to us directly in the Hephaestus Works Discord! (https://discord.gg/afAu9ZyEJk)
Finally a huge thank you to everyone who supported us thus far and u/hawkeye3432 for allowing us to use their beautiful pictures!