Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 04:57:36
09/09/17 update
Haven't heard from our German friends yet, but I have secured a Korean proxy! This will be done by Cocobrais who you may know from GMK Burgundy and some damn cool Korean customs! He guarantees the sale of 75 base sets, 50 space-bar kits and 50 add-on kits (meaning that he'll buy them out of pocket if he doesn't sell that many). This means that MOQ shouldn't be an issue for any of the kits :thumb:
06/09/17 update
Thank you for all of your input, the final quote has just been put in at GMK! I expect the response to take a couple of weeks. The GB will go up ASAP after I receive the response though! Thank you for all your support so far, I hope this trend continues into the GB so we don't run into any MOQ issues :-*
Whatttt is up my fellow keeb lovers!!
With its classic beige tones and stylish splash of colour, the 9009 colourway designed by Reuters in the 90's has sure made an impression on this community. So much in fact, that the set is going for insane amounts of money on mechmarket. This really pains me everytime I see it since I absolutely adore simple sets like this and I know I'm not the only one not able to splash the cash on it.
There was a PBT GB on KeyClack some time ago but frankly, it really didn't look the same :( . So I decided to spend some times on getting things set up for another round of 9009. I am in talks with vendors for both the EU and the US, Dixiemech.com and mykeyboard.eu respectively, both of which are great guys and have been super helpful in this process. David from Mykeyboard will also be supplying matching keyboard sleeves and cables on both his site and on Dixiemech, both of which are handmade in Belgium :) .
I have already put in a quote about a week ago, and am waiting for a response. Don't worry, you won't be paying $180 for a GMK set here folks! The price range I'm trying to aim at is $140-150, this might not seem super low but please keep in mind that the USD-EUR is going down again and that we will be paying all necessary tax, something that doesn't seem to happen much in this community. This can make a 21% revenue difference :p Either way, all is depended on GMK's quote. Let's hope they pleasantly surprise us :D
I have also put in some time making renders on boards and to show off the kit design.
Tl:Dr:
What? Another run of GMK 9009, the classy colour scheme used on Reuters trading boards .
When? Depended on feedback and GMK's supply, but a lot of work is already done. September seems like an achievable goal.
How much? Depended on the quote we get from GMK, trying to keep it at $140 in the US and €125 ish including 21% tax for my fellow Europeans.
Updated Kit Design
Please consider that since price is an issue not everybody can get all specific keys they want. After going through all advice and feedback I genuinely feel like this is the best balance between the number of keys and cost I can give you. I hope everybody understands that if I added every key all people wanted this would turn into a €200 base kit, and I'm probably not even exaggerating here. Unless there are major issues found in this kit design it will stay as is, tweaking this for ages will only slow down the process of running this GB.
Base kit
(http://i.imgur.com/VcKhIhk.jpg)
Add-on kit
(http://i.imgur.com/yXtlE6L.jpg)
Spacebar kit
(http://i.imgur.com/t732bG3.jpg)
Renders
(http://i.imgur.com/hsCIt1T.jpg)
Rubreh Domeh (there will be a center stemmed 6u spacebar in the kit!)
(http://i.imgur.com/naXZwHn.jpg)
Modern M0110
(http://i.imgur.com/AlaGbMm.jpg)
Mech-27 (ISO :thumb: :thumb: )
(http://i.imgur.com/yU1Dgwh.jpg)
FC980C (final set will have front printed legends on the numpad!)
Things to fix, add, ...
- Getting a quote from GMK
- Making sure everything is 100% set up with vendors
- Launching the GB!! :D
Old kit design:
More
Kit Design
(http://i.imgur.com/GWpPNJg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GWpPNJg.jpg)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:00:15
Post by: asgeirtj on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:00:24
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:03:12
No 3a/3c spacebars?
Ooh yes, of course, don't really know how I forgot about those! Sorry, added it to a todo list!! Thank you for the feedback :)
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:04:25
Can you please do R0 top row?
I will look into the pricing of this, it would sure make the set look a lot better on 75% and 96key boards! Thank you :)
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:05:48
Its hard to tell from renders, but i assume same color codes are being used.
Some important things that are being left out:
-green & red spacebars
This is the most popular beige set, so i dont like changing icons. For example the windows logo keys are now super instead. Really dislike this change.
Also change back to the Caps-lock logo.
Maybe do a add-on kits that contained:
-red + green spacebar
-red + green f5-f8
Simular to the addon kit that was sold with GMK Muted. It shouldnt have any problems meeting MOQ.
Overall - why are you making changes to the things people like with this set? Caps lock icon, windows icon, super.
Innovation for innovations sake is not needed.
Post by: Murrellz on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:09:26
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:14:18
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:16:19
Very nice!
Its hard to tell from renders, but i assume same color codes are being used.
Some important things that are being left out:
-green & red spacebars
This is the most popular beige set, so i dont like changing icons. For example the windows logo keys are now super instead. Really dislike this change.
Also change back to the Caps-lock logo.
Maybe do a add-on kits that contained:
-red + green spacebar
-red + green f5-f8
Simular to the addon kit that was sold with GMK Muted. It shouldnt have any problems meeting MOQ.
Overall - why are you making changes to the things people like with this set? Caps lock icon, windows icon, super.
Innovation for innovations sake is not needed.
Hey!
Spacebars will be added for sure! The reason for changing the Caps Lock symbol to this one is because I personally feel like this icon looks a lot better, and I felt like a lot of people agreed with me. This can be changed of course! Same goes with the Windows key, I am not really a big fan of having a Windows key on my board and felt like "Super" is a more neutral option to go with but same story as with the Caps Lock icon, I'm open to changing it back or adding both options!
Thank you for your feedback!
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:17:28
125€? I'll take three :thumb:
Please don't get mad at me if the price is high! ;) Like I said it's what I want to aim for, but if the quote comes back higher than expected so will the price :/ I'm hoping I will be pleasantly surprised though!!
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:18:01
I would definitely be in for this. Providing 3A/3C spacebars are added.
I'm glad you're liking it!! Those options will be added for sure!!
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:23:29
It would be nice to have red + green spacebar in 6, 6.25 and 7. Including 6 spacebars in basekit will make it so expensive.
Also, spacebars are something that people like to stock up on, since it's something that gets shine first.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:25:54
If you doing spacebars, i really suggest you doing it as a addon kit.
It would be nice to have red + green spacebar in 6, 6.25 and 7. Including 6 spacebars in basekit will make it so expensive.
Also, spacebars are something that people like to stock up on, since it's something that gets shine first.
Yes, it will be an add-on kit! Will be 7, 6.25, 6 but I think adding 2.25 and 2.75 blanks might be good too for the split space users!
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:26:54
If you want text OS keys, you might consider Code instead of Super. Seems more standard and looks better on the 1u keys for 7u layouts with less chars. That said I don't care either way, just may make it easier for some to accept.
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Post by: superdoedoe on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:27:22
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:29:34
Any chance for an Asian Proxy? Am Sure alot of Aussies are interested, but normally shipping is crazy and kills the buy.
Can be looked in to! Do you perhaps know anyone who has been an Asian proxy for GMK sets before? :)
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:31:11
Any chance for an Asian Proxy? Am Sure alot of Aussies are interested, but normally shipping is crazy and kills the buy.
Can be looked in to! Do you perhaps know anyone who has been an Asian proxy for GMK sets before? :)
You could always ask someone like kbdfans (china) who already has a storefront.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:32:21
Any chance for an Asian Proxy? Am Sure alot of Aussies are interested, but normally shipping is crazy and kills the buy.
Can be looked in to! Do you perhaps know anyone who has been an Asian proxy for GMK sets before? :)
You could always ask someone like kbdfans (china) who already has a storefront.
Ooh yeah good idea! I will write them an email today, thank you for the suggestion.
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:38:32
Can you please do R0 top row?And R5 bottom row?
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:41:50
Also I would always choose the German down arrow caps over the handbag. :P
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:42:23
Can you please do R0 top row?And R5 bottom row?
Can be looked into again, but if I'm not mistaken I remember hearing that this can be quite costly?
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:42:58
It should be faster to get to GB right, since the set already exists and everything?
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Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:45:20
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:46:34
Another Aussie here.. definitely in 100%. Was going to get into GMK laser but now this is up I am saving my keycap $$ allocation for this
It should be faster to get to GB right, since the set already exists and everything?
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Glad to hear that you're excited! Yes, this can be pushed to the GB phase pretty quickly since I have done a lot of stuff that normally happens after an IC (doing renders, kit design, talking with vendors, submitting a quote, ...)!
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 05:48:00
Another suggestion could be to change the stepped ctrl + ctrl (in caps space) to the old icon caps lock.
As in having no option for a 1.75u control key, but offer 2 caps lock options? I'm not sure HHKB layout users are going to like that change :)
Post by: Goliath123 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:00:53
Cheers for this also!!! yay
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:02:04
Yes R0 and R5 increase the retail price, not idea about how much though.Can you please do R0 top row?And R5 bottom row?
Can be looked into again, but if I'm not mistaken I remember hearing that this can be quite costly?
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:09:43
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:14:36
Will you be using the same colour codes (Both legend and base)? The 3B and 3A are so essential to many i'd believe.
Cheers for this also!!! yay
This is indeed using the L9 for the alphas, U9 for the modifiers, CR for legends and 3A and 3C for accents!
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:16:11
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:16:25
I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:17:22
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:18:00
Yes R0 and R5 increase the retail price, not idea about how much though.Can you please do R0 top row?And R5 bottom row?
Can be looked into again, but if I'm not mistaken I remember hearing that this can be quite costly?
Alright, I will talk with GMK about this! I would personally love to see this too!
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:20:29
I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
Thank you for the support! I have indeed already done a large part :) I will make sure I'm not running into personal issues here, but I would indeed love to run this!
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:21:22
"I have some plan for 9009R2 at January, but since then there are GMK Muted, Sherryton/Originative also bringing back GMK Classic beige to stock.
With so many Classic beige colorways around, I am not sure if R2 can make it."
NO this is not a 100% promise it will run. More of a maybe.
Janglad has/is:
-speaking to vendor
-render
-speaking with GMK
Whats left to do is some minor adjustments and we're off.
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:22:18
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:22:39
I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
I'm just saying, I know he wanted to run it after dolch was done, but he should be ok with it. Just thought it'll be a courtesy call to drop him a message? He's a cool guy about stuff like that :)
I mean, he did run R1. :)
(i'm basing this on a conversation i had with him on QQ, but it's up to you)
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:25:45
I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
Thank you for the support! I have indeed already done a large part :) I will make sure I'm not running into personal issues here, but I would indeed love to run this!
This will be the fastest IC => GB ever seen thanks to the work done behind the scenes. Having the keycaps in Q1 18 - i know alot of us wants and no more r mk 9009 scalpers (recently a set sold for $375)
Post by: vegs on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:26:07
Any hope for international kit?
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:27:24
I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
Thank you for the support! I have indeed already done a large part :) I will make sure I'm not running into personal issues here, but I would indeed love to run this!
This will be the fastest IC => GB ever seen thanks to the work done behind the scenes. Having the keycaps in Q1 18 - i know alot of us wants and no more r mk 9009 scalpers (recently a set sold for $375)
Couldn't be more happy about this. Just let me know when to pay!
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Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:30:36
100% in.
Any hope for international kit?
Int kit is always impossible outside of massdrop.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:34:01
I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
I'm just saying, I know he wanted to run it after dolch was done, but he should be ok with it. Just thought it'll be a courtesy call to drop him a message? He's a cool guy about stuff like that :)
I mean, he did run R1. :)
(i'm basing this on a conversation i had with him on QQ, but it's up to you)
Although I personally think nobody in this community owns 9009, just like everybody can run Dolch, I don't want any drama unfolding here so yes, I will shoot him a PM :)
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:34:45
100% in.
Any hope for international kit?
Sadly I'm afraid that that won't be possible MOQ wise, and kits not hitting MOQ isn't fun for anyone :(
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:40:49
Yeap I agree, and so does he, cheers and good luck with this! It's definitely one that everyone is looking forward to :)I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
I'm just saying, I know he wanted to run it after dolch was done, but he should be ok with it. Just thought it'll be a courtesy call to drop him a message? He's a cool guy about stuff like that :)
I mean, he did run R1. :)
(i'm basing this on a conversation i had with him on QQ, but it's up to you)
Although I personally think nobody in this community owns 9009, just like everybody can run Dolch, I don't want any drama unfolding here so yes, I will shoot him a PM :)
Post by: Goliath123 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:41:27
Will you be using the same colour codes (Both legend and base)? The 3B and 3A are so essential to many i'd believe.
Cheers for this also!!! yay
This is indeed using the L9 for the alphas, U9 for the modifiers, CR for legends and 3A and 3C for accents!
The first 9009 used 3B and 3C, are you changing it for round 2?
Thanks again!
Post by: DreLLin on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:42:53
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Post by: olieatstofu on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:46:53
Post by: suntorywhisky on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:47:14
Post by: ullr on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:48:18
Post by: DreLLin on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:49:21
Will you be using the same colour codes (Both legend and base)? The 3B and 3A are so essential to many i'd believe.
Cheers for this also!!! yay
This is indeed using the L9 for the alphas, U9 for the modifiers, CR for legends and 3A and 3C for accents!
The first 9009 used 3B and 3C, are you changing it for round 2?
Thanks again!
3A and 3C were the colors from GMK Muted accent kit, original 9009 used 3B and 3C
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Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:54:51
Will you be using the same colour codes (Both legend and base)? The 3B and 3A are so essential to many i'd believe.
Cheers for this also!!! yay
This is indeed using the L9 for the alphas, U9 for the modifiers, CR for legends and 3A and 3C for accents!
The first 9009 used 3B and 3C, are you changing it for round 2?
Thanks again!
Ooh woops no, typo. 3B and 3C will indeed be the colours! Excuse me :)
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:55:19
3C
Is way better for the accents.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:56:26
Will there be 40% support?
Sadly, I don't think full fledged 40% support is a viable option with GMK sets right now. However, I will add some 2.25u and 2.75u blanks to the spacebar kit for split space users :)
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:57:04
Definitely in for 1 or 2 sets. Would also like an international kit and it would be even cooler if we could get a novelties kit with some of the original Reuters legends.
(Attachment Link)
They're cool right! I doubt GMK still has the moulds though and getting new ones made would cost a small fortune :P
Post by: Owl- on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:57:32
Yes, it will be an add-on kit! Will be 7, 6.25, 6 but I think adding 2.25 and 2.75 blanks might be good too for the split space users!
Looking forward to this if it happens.
Some requests to be included in the set:
1. 2u in space bar kit (two would be great - using clueboard)
2. 1u '00' for numpad
3. extra R4 1u 'Fn' key for dual Fn users like me. 'Hack' is an alternative.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:57:58
3B
3C
Is way better for the accents.
Yes, you're right, 3B and 3C will indeed be the colours. Sorry for the confusion :)
Post by: Goliath123 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 06:58:37
Will you be using the same colour codes (Both legend and base)? The 3B and 3A are so essential to many i'd believe.
Cheers for this also!!! yay
This is indeed using the L9 for the alphas, U9 for the modifiers, CR for legends and 3A and 3C for accents!
The first 9009 used 3B and 3C, are you changing it for round 2?
Thanks again!
Ooh woops no, typo. 3B and 3C will indeed be the colours! Excuse me :)
Oh boy!! You sir are a legend
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:04:24
Will you be using the same colour codes (Both legend and base)? The 3B and 3A are so essential to many i'd believe.
Cheers for this also!!! yay
This is indeed using the L9 for the alphas, U9 for the modifiers, CR for legends and 3A and 3C for accents!
The first 9009 used 3B and 3C, are you changing it for round 2?
Thanks again!
Ooh woops no, typo. 3B and 3C will indeed be the colours! Excuse me :)
Oh boy!! You sir are a legend
A pleasure to serve you, sir! :))
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:08:46
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6xe2yg/you_have_waited_long_enough_gmk_9009_2017_is/
Post by: ok2094 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:10:04
But please keep the Super keys.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:11:56
Yes please!
But please keep the Super keys.
Modifier legends seem to be a really polarising issue :D I personally don't mind "Super" or "Code", as long as it's not a Windows icon ;D But there are people who like their icons too :confused:
Post by: Owl- on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:15:44
Yes, it will be an add-on kit! Will be 7, 6.25, 6 but I think adding 2.25 and 2.75 blanks might be good too for the split space users!
Looking forward to this if it happens.
Some requests to be included in the set:
1. 2u in space bar kit (two would be great - using clueboard)
2. 1u '00' for Numpad
3. extra R4 1u 'Fn' key for dual Fn users like me. 'Hack' is an alternative.
Modifier legends seem to be a really polarising issue :D I personally don't mind "Super" or "Code", as long as it's not a Windows icon ;D But there are people who like their icons too :confused:
I don't mind it being super or code. I think the bottom row being just words and everything else above as icons is an interesting touch
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:21:33
Post by: futurecrime on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:23:59
I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
Thank you for the support! I have indeed already done a large part :) I will make sure I'm not running into personal issues here, but I would indeed love to run this!
This will be the fastest IC => GB ever seen thanks to the work done behind the scenes. Having the keycaps in Q1 18 - i know alot of us wants and no more r mk 9009 scalpers (recently a set sold for $375)
That was my set that I sold for £298. Just want to clarify I didn't make any money on it. I bought it second hand from Australia for not much more than the original price plus postage to Oz, Oz customs fee/tax, plus pp fees and postage to U.K. Then sold it for the same plus my pp fee and p&p to Switzerland. These things add up. Anyway, just thought I'd clear it up cos I don't wanna be called a scalper innit.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:31:21
I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
Thank you for the support! I have indeed already done a large part :) I will make sure I'm not running into personal issues here, but I would indeed love to run this!
This will be the fastest IC => GB ever seen thanks to the work done behind the scenes. Having the keycaps in Q1 18 - i know alot of us wants and no more r mk 9009 scalpers (recently a set sold for $375)
That was my set that I sold for £298. Just want to clarify I didn't make any money on it. I bought it second hand from Australia for not much more than the original price plus postage to Oz, Oz customs fee/tax, plus pp fees and postage to U.K. Then sold it for the same plus my pp fee and p&p to Switzerland. These things add up. Anyway, just thought I'd clear it up cos I don't wanna be called a scalper innit.
I absolutely don't blame you! In fact, I thank you because seeing yet another one of these gorgeous sets sell was the final drop for me to create a GB :p
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:32:04
Would you consider adding the Caps-lock logo (normal, stepped) as extras in the set?
Although I personally really prefer this symbol, the way it's looking now it will be removed altogether and replaced by the OG caps lock logo.
Post by: AlexAtPanc on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:33:13
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:33:34
Yeap I agree, and so does he, cheers and good luck with this! It's definitely one that everyone is looking forward to :)I know kekkon is looking to do R2, have you dropped him a message?
He is? I didn't know no. I assumed running this wouldn't bring any issues about either way since the colours scheme was designed by Reuters and there were no issues with Jchan running the PBT version :-X
Please run this and ignore others. And if you say you might run this in 6 months no work has really been put into it. He seems really busy with the dolch GB now.
At the end of the day, running GB is about getting it done. There will always be people who might run a set, but nothing happends until someone actually start an IC, speak with vendors etc. You're doing a great job janglad and seems to have most of it figured out.
I'm just saying, I know he wanted to run it after dolch was done, but he should be ok with it. Just thought it'll be a courtesy call to drop him a message? He's a cool guy about stuff like that :)
I mean, he did run R1. :)
(i'm basing this on a conversation i had with him on QQ, but it's up to you)
Although I personally think nobody in this community owns 9009, just like everybody can run Dolch, I don't want any drama unfolding here so yes, I will shoot him a PM :)
Do you mean "Yeap I agree, and so does he" as in you have talked to him about it? Or should I still message him :)
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:35:27
Would you consider adding the Caps-lock logo (normal, stepped) as extras in the set?
Although I personally really prefer this symbol, the way it's looking now it will be removed altogether and replaced by the OG caps lock logo.
Omg i love this. If you really like the original you could alwyas replace the ctrl-keys (In caps-lock space)
Probably in for 2-3 sets.
Post by: mastercheif116 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:36:28
Will you be using the same colour codes (Both legend and base)? The 3B and 3A are so essential to many i'd believe.
Cheers for this also!!! yay
This is indeed using the L9 for the alphas, U9 for the modifiers, CR for legends and 3A and 3C for accents!
The first 9009 used 3B and 3C, are you changing it for round 2?
Thanks again!
Ooh woops no, typo. 3B and 3C will indeed be the colours! Excuse me :)
does this mean the GMK muted is slightly off? I thought that the GMK muted 3a/3c modifiers were supposed to match GMK 9009, but they certainly are 3A and not 3B
Post by: t8c on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:38:50
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:40:33
Will you be using the same colour codes (Both legend and base)? The 3B and 3A are so essential to many i'd believe.
Cheers for this also!!! yay
This is indeed using the L9 for the alphas, U9 for the modifiers, CR for legends and 3A and 3C for accents!
The first 9009 used 3B and 3C, are you changing it for round 2?
Thanks again!
Ooh woops no, typo. 3B and 3C will indeed be the colours! Excuse me :)
does this mean the GMK muted is slightly off? I thought that the GMK muted 3a/3c modifiers were supposed to match GMK 9009, but they certainly are 3A and not 3B
GMK muted is not a beige set. Its white and grey. So different green/red is fine for that.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:41:02
Will you be using the same colour codes (Both legend and base)? The 3B and 3A are so essential to many i'd believe.
Cheers for this also!!! yay
This is indeed using the L9 for the alphas, U9 for the modifiers, CR for legends and 3A and 3C for accents!
The first 9009 used 3B and 3C, are you changing it for round 2?
Thanks again!
Ooh woops no, typo. 3B and 3C will indeed be the colours! Excuse me :)
does this mean the GMK muted is slightly off? I thought that the GMK muted 3a/3c modifiers were supposed to match GMK 9009, but they certainly are 3A and not 3B
It does indeed! The colours from Muted are more.... muted :P
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:42:54
Perfect except R1 1u delete icon as seen in GMK Hydro!
I mean I can add it to my list but do that many people really use a 1u backspace?
Post by: Petch on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:43:53
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:45:15
EU proxy and 100% in
There is one! David and Yullia (A.K.A. Necromanx and Necrowomanx) from mykeyboard.eu!
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:01:53
Didn't touch on it, but would you consider
-f5,f6,f7,f8 added as possible colorpack (in red + green). I think that would sell well.
(Could also add stuff like optional caps logo in here)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:09:36
But interested and want the purse Caps Lock cap.
Also, don't get too ahead of yourself. I was in the original 9009 GB and ended up cancelling because justnits promised his GBs would be different and on time, but there were months where there was no word. I got worried and cancelled.
Of course I kick myself now, but at the time I had no idea what was happening.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:10:48
Really like how interactive you're in the IC thread. I can already tell this will be the smoothest GMK-run ever. Hope we see more GB from you. :thumb:
Didn't touch on it, but would you consider
-f5,f6,f7,f8 added as possible colorpack (in red + green). I think that would sell well.
(Could also add stuff like optional caps logo in here)
The smoothness of this GB will lubed Vintage Blacks seem scratchy :cool:
But nah I'm doing the best I can!! Accented F keys is an option, but damn this is going to be one hell of a big kit then :(
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:13:04
Really like how interactive you're in the IC thread. I can already tell this will be the smoothest GMK-run ever. Hope we see more GB from you. :thumb:
Didn't touch on it, but would you consider
-f5,f6,f7,f8 added as possible colorpack (in red + green). I think that would sell well.
(Could also add stuff like optional caps logo in here)
The smoothness of this GB will lubed Vintage Blacks seem scratchy :cool:
But nah I'm doing the best I can!! Accented F keys is an option, but damn this is going to be one hell of a big kit then :(
No, could do a small kit and sell by itself:
1rst kit: spacebars
2nd kit: x8 f5-f8 keys.
I dont think the 2nd kit would be all that expensive. (20-30 usd?)
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:13:57
tl; dr
But interested and want the purse Caps Lock cap.
Also, don't get too ahead of yourself. I was in the original 9009 GB and ended up cancelling because justnits promised his GBs would be different and on time, but there were months where there was no word. I got worried and cancelled.
Of course I kick myself now, but at the time I had no idea what was happening.
Yeah the caps lock will most likely be changed to the purse one. I'm doing the best I can to make this a really smooth GB, hopefully there will be no issues on the way :)
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:15:30
Really like how interactive you're in the IC thread. I can already tell this will be the smoothest GMK-run ever. Hope we see more GB from you. :thumb:
Didn't touch on it, but would you consider
-f5,f6,f7,f8 added as possible colorpack (in red + green). I think that would sell well.
(Could also add stuff like optional caps logo in here)
The smoothness of this GB will lubed Vintage Blacks seem scratchy :cool:
But nah I'm doing the best I can!! Accented F keys is an option, but damn this is going to be one hell of a big kit then :(
No, could do a small kit and sell by itself:
1rst kit: spacebars
2nd kit: x8 f5-f8 keys.
I dont think the 2nd kit would be all that expensive. (20-30 usd?)
It's not the price that I worry about, but MOQ and just the overall complication of adding more kits.
Post by: Owl- on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:26:49
It's not the price that I worry about, but MOQ and just the overall complication of adding more kits.
Not sure if my request is considered or not, but having one main kit, accents kit and space bar kit seems most reasonable and going by the looks of other previous group buys outside of massdrop. Keeping it to three kits total.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:28:06
It's not the price that I worry about, but MOQ and just the overall complication of adding more kits.
Not sure if you've considered my earlier request or not, but having one main kit, accents kit and space bar kit seems most reasonable and going by the looks of other previous group buys outside of massdrop. Keeping it to three kits total.
What I'm currently thinking is having the base kit pretty similar to how it is now, and having one extra kits with both spacebars and extra accent keys like the f keys.
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:31:14
Either way, this is an instant buy of course, especially at 120€ through mykeyboard. Great job and thank you!
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:32:54
Kit 1: spacebars
Kit 2: green + red f5-f8 and green + red arrow-keys.
Post by: Owl- on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:34:36
What I'm currently thinking is having the base kit pretty similar to how it is now, and having one extra kits with both spacebars and extra accent keys like the f keys.
An extra Fn key and a 00 key to the main kit is certainly keeping it very similar to how it is now.
combining both space bar and accents as one is doable if you're worried about moq
Post by: xondat on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:34:56
- Numpad 00
- A 2nd R4 1u Ctrl
I'd also prefer the padlock style caps lock over down arrow. Really like the simple 1.5u backspace over the stupid blocky arrow.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:36:51
Post by: Petch on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:37:49
Could be improved compatibility with:
- Numpad 00
- A 2nd R4 1u Ctrl
I'd also prefer the padlock style caps lock over down arrow. Really like the simple 1.5u backspace over the stupid blocky arrow.
Initially I missed the bigger 1.5u backspace, but this simpler one is growing on me now
Post by: lovetree on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:45:26
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 08:53:02
I know 9009 in basically sacred at this point/the kit(s) are already locked most likely and that without it being ran on Massdrop this is nothing but a pipe dream but I can't help but wish there would be a small kit made so that one could go for full icon mods; as in the bottom row too, like T0mb3ry did with Yuri's icon mods kit.
Either way, this is an instant buy of course, especially at 120€ through mykeyboard. Great job and thank you!
Ooh wow I forgot those moulds existed! I would personally also like to see this but I'm just afraid more people would want it as is :/
Also, please keep in mind that the price is just a guideline. Nothing is set yet, all depends on the response from GMK.
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:01:48
used gmk 9009 sold for 250 usd each (2 set) in minutes on mm, and a new sold for 375, so the price will still be great.
9009 is such a legendary and beloved set, so we rather get it perfect for a few more dollars rather than nickle and diming.
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:02:14
Ooh wow I forgot those moulds existed! I would personally also like to see this but I'm just afraid more people would want it as is :/
Also, please keep in mind that the price is just a guideline. Nothing is set yet, all depends on the response from GMK.
I'm sure that's the case, I still wonder how much the price would be driven up if you were to include like 10 of those bottom row icon mod keys with the potential space bar/function colour kit you're making - wouldn't have to go crazy with compatibility, just standard and WKL or something like that. Maybe there'd be enough interest to warrant an extra 10 bucks or something.
Of course, even if it ends up being more I'm still in, was just referencing the estimate you gave!
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:07:28
Quote
Considering going back to the old Caps Lock icon and replacing "Super" with Windows icons as suggested by Avid
Can we get the Windows 8 / 10 style icons like muted please and not the old style?
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:10:24
Ooh wow I forgot those moulds existed! I would personally also like to see this but I'm just afraid more people would want it as is :/
Also, please keep in mind that the price is just a guideline. Nothing is set yet, all depends on the response from GMK.
I'm sure that's the case, I still wonder how much the price would be driven up if you were to include like 10 of those bottom row icon mod keys with the potential space bar/function colour kit you're making - wouldn't have to go crazy with compatibility, just standard and WKL or something like that. Maybe there'd be enough interest to warrant an extra 10 bucks or something.
Of course, even if it ends up being more I'm still in, was just referencing the estimate you gave!
I will see if I can make it into an addon kit, maybe combining it with extra accents since I really want this too. But dang, so many people want so many different kits :eek:
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:15:07
-spacebars
Which should be bundled with other spacebars.
So other potential things to consider for a 2nd kit:
-green/red f5-f8
-green/red arrows
-alt/ctrl icon mods
Other?
Post by: waterdeep on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:16:38
I will join GroupBuy unconditionally.
Post by: techfresh on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:23:57
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:24:36
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:32:21
Definitely in for 1 or 2 sets. Would also like an international kit and it would be even cooler if we could get a novelties kit with some of the original Reuters legends.
(Attachment Link)
+1
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:33:58
If I could make one suggestion:
1.5u R4 "Fn" key. Pretty please?
Post by: IneffableTao on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:43:44
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:51:55
I will see if I can make it into an addon kit, maybe combining it with extra accents since I really want this too. But dang, so many people want so many different kits :eek:
I'd really like that if you can make it happen. Those are the only kits I care about personally, space bars + the bottom row icons (wherever they may be).
I'm still very happy as is to see this run again so that'd just be icing on the cake.
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:53:57
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:15:07
I will see if I can make it into an addon kit, maybe combining it with extra accents since I really want this too. But dang, so many people want so many different kits :eek:
I'd really like that if you can make it happen. Those are the only kits I care about personally, space bars + the bottom row icons (wherever they may be).
I'm still very happy as is to see this run again so that'd just be icing on the cake.
Yeah working on redoing the kit design right now. Just can't stop from thinking what would happen if we have say 160 basekit orders and 60 "extra" kit orders. This would mean the extra kit would fail, making say 20 people drop out of the base kit too. Of course buying 10 extra sets isn't an issue, but you get what I'm saying.
Do you think it would be fair to say that people can't drop out of the basekit because of a failed extras kit? With something like an international kit I would be very much against this but with this I don't really know since it doesn't add any compatibility.
Well I don't know, worth thinking about. I just really want to see this set succeed :)
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:15:12
This is a must-buy.
lol kinda sucks for those who paid premium of $300+ for previous GMK 9009 keycaps and lucky for those who sold them at high price :D
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:24:39
I will see if I can make it into an addon kit, maybe combining it with extra accents since I really want this too. But dang, so many people want so many different kits :eek:
I'd really like that if you can make it happen. Those are the only kits I care about personally, space bars + the bottom row icons (wherever they may be).
I'm still very happy as is to see this run again so that'd just be icing on the cake.
Yeah working on redoing the kit design right now. Just can't stop from thinking what would happen if we have say 160 basekit orders and 60 "extra" kit orders. This would mean the extra kit would fail, making say 20 people drop out of the base kit too. Of course buying 10 extra sets isn't an issue, but you get what I'm saying.
Do you think it would be fair to say that people can't drop out of the basekit because of a failed extras kit? With something like an international kit I would be very much against this but with this I don't really know since it doesn't add any compatibility.
Well I don't know, worth thinking about. I just really want to see this set succeed :)
What is extras kit?
I truly belive space bars should be sold in separate kit since ppl buy multiple kits due to faster shine.
The base-kit is really nice as it is, with minor tweak.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:26:22
I will see if I can make it into an addon kit, maybe combining it with extra accents since I really want this too. But dang, so many people want so many different kits :eek:
I'd really like that if you can make it happen. Those are the only kits I care about personally, space bars + the bottom row icons (wherever they may be).
I'm still very happy as is to see this run again so that'd just be icing on the cake.
Yeah working on redoing the kit design right now. Just can't stop from thinking what would happen if we have say 160 basekit orders and 60 "extra" kit orders. This would mean the extra kit would fail, making say 20 people drop out of the base kit too. Of course buying 10 extra sets isn't an issue, but you get what I'm saying.
Do you think it would be fair to say that people can't drop out of the basekit because of a failed extras kit? With something like an international kit I would be very much against this but with this I don't really know since it doesn't add any compatibility.
Well I don't know, worth thinking about. I just really want to see this set succeed :)
What is extras kit?
I truly belive space bars should be sold in separate kit since ppl buy multiple kits due to faster shine.
Spacebars will be sold separately with some extra accents for the F keys (at least that's the idea now). Extras kit would have icon mods.
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:28:34
Do you plan to make a separate kit with those?
The big appeal with a big modifier kit with yuri was that you could buy acryllic alphas and complement with mod kit (icon).
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:39:34
The big appeal with a big modifier kit with yuri was that you could buy acryllic alphas and complement with mod kit (icon).
Agreed. My only argument for the complete icon mods here is that I prefer the uniform look of having those in the bottom row too rather than as is - plus the moulds already exist so they'd be pretty cheap probably.
Would a singular kit with just those icons struggle to hit MOQ? For sure. Maybe with a couple other things in the bundle but maybe it's more hassle than it's worth. Hard to gauge interest.
Post by: Kafka on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:40:38
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Post by: limitz on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:47:43
9009 is only really special because of the few pastel colored keys. There are tons of black on beige Cherry GMK sets (KA 1957, Classic Retro, etc). An accent pack would allow all of those, as well as any OG Cherry sets to be turned into a 9009 set.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:49:49
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:50:32
Why not run a base kit + a color accent pack? The base kit could be icon black on beige, with the accent pack consisting of any colored keys.
9009 is only really special because of the few pastel colored keys. There are tons of black on beige Cherry GMK sets (KA 1957, Classic Retro, etc). An accent pack would allow all of those, as well as any OG Cherry sets to be turned into a 9009 set.
I really like what he said earlier about spacebar + accents in it.
Ideal accent pack would be: color: spacebar + f5-f8 + arrows (all red+green)
This could also be split:
-spacebar
-f5-8 + arrows
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:02:14
Would love to see two base sets available. One with only icon mods, the other with icon+text. Both would tip.
icon + text is not as nice. If you want that there is classic retro, which is a perfectly fine set.
The beauty of 9009 is the nice icon mods.
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:07:14
Post by: hamilton on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:08:36
Post by: techfresh on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:09:16
I would want one of each! I like icon for the classic look, but then I like text mods for the better spacing on the larger keys.Would love to see two base sets available. One with only icon mods, the other with icon+text. Both would tip.
icon + text is not as nice. If you want that there is classic retro, which is a perfectly fine set.
The beauty of 9009 is the nice icon mods.
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Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:11:03
Would love to see two base sets available. One with only icon mods, the other with icon+text. Both would tip.
Do you really think both would hit 150 MOQ? We're not selling this on MassDrop :P Well, you sure have a lot more experience with this than me haha. Just don't want to take any unnecessary risks.
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:14:54
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:17:08
Wouldnt it be better to focus on one base-kit? For those that want non-icon, check out classic retro. They have icon + text.
Yeah, my head is also starting to spin from all these requests :p. I'm going to go through all of them and put them in a spreadsheet tomorrow so I can filter out important ones.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:19:00
Would love to see two base sets available. One with only icon mods, the other with icon+text. Both would tip.
Do you really think both would hit 150 MOQ? We're not selling this on MassDrop :P Well, you sure have a lot more experience with this than me haha. Just don't want to take any unnecessary risks.
Its simple. This is actually not about 9009 set but more about classic beige set. You have higher chances these days to get any "fancy" set than classic ones. In this regard this is definitely the opportunity to make this happen. And the extra matching accent keys of 9009 are ncie addition. Demand is definitely there.
Would love to see two base sets available. One with only icon mods, the other with icon+text. Both would tip.
icon + text is not as nice. If you want that there is classic retro, which is a perfectly fine set.
The beauty of 9009 is the nice icon mods.
Strongly disagree. Its definitely a subjective thing about icon mods. 9009 is more about classic beige with nice accents.
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:23:30
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:26:42
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:31:43
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:37:11
As you all can see i am voting/call here for both version of mods because whole community is like 50/50 about only icon and icon+mods modifiers. Its all subjective but calling one of the version being superior to another is wrong. 150 moq with the latest hype of 9009 is pretty easily reached.
I actually agree - I'm almost certain even outside of MD both kits would tip given how popular/hyped up 9009 is.
Post by: manzel on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:52:24
Why not run a base kit + a color accent pack? The base kit could be icon black on beige, with the accent pack consisting of any colored keys in both Icon + Text version for maximum compatibility.This is indeed a nice idea.
9009 is only really special because of the few pastel colored keys. There are tons of black on beige Cherry GMK sets (KA 1957, Classic Retro, etc). An accent pack would allow all of those, as well as any OG Cherry sets to be turned into a 9009 set.
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:58:27
Caps lock arrow and just text on the bottom row looks the cleanest.
(http://i.imgur.com/mh8MlkN.jpg)
Post by: m15 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:59:43
Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:02:51
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:03:26
I don't get how GH is alwas so hyped about text + icon mods.
Caps lock arrow and just text on the bottom row looks the cleanest.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mh8MlkN.jpg)
Again you dont like it but others do.
Post by: Troif on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:05:32
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Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:22:42
OG style mods.
Barred F/J.
Thanks.
Post by: BlackInk on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:23:35
Post by: ideus on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:56:28
I don't get how GH is alwas so hyped about text + icon mods.
Caps lock arrow and just text on the bottom row looks the cleanest.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mh8MlkN.jpg)
You do not get it because you are in Germany, HAD sets come standard as you described, ANSI sets come with text + icon mods. I like more the HAD style, personally, but it is not common usage here.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 13:07:12
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Fri, 01 September 2017, 13:14:47
I tried to order a shirt on there just to check the shipping costs and it seems like they only ship stickers to Canada.
Is this correct or am I doing something wrong?
Post by: Sporty on Fri, 01 September 2017, 13:18:52
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:12:45
Does the US proxy ship to Canada?
I tried to order a shirt on there just to check the shipping costs and it seems like they only ship stickers to Canada.
Is this correct or am I doing something wrong?
I just contacted him and shipping to Canada would be possible for sure but might end up costing $20-30. We could look into setting up a proxy but I really don't know if it's going to be worth it :/
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:14:36
Perhaps do an extension kit for colors/spacebars/fkeys AND R5 mods :O. I'll buy one either way just cause i figure i should have at least 1 beige set, but I've been wanting to try R5 mods, If nothing else I think it would be worth at least trying to do a 9009 R5 (and R0?) kit?
I would absolutely love love lovveee to see this with R0 and R5 but I don't know if it will be feasible considering the price. One of the main things on my list of things to discuss with GMK though!
Post by: kustom3 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:25:30
Also not a big fan of the modern Windows logo but I could live with that.
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:27:14
I'd be very disappointed if the downward arrow on capslock was changed for the purse. That's one of my favorite things on 9009.
9009 use that caps.
(http://i.imgur.com/RDErPyQ.png)
Post by: kustom3 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:31:25
I'd be very disappointed if the downward arrow on capslock was changed for the purse. That's one of my favorite things on 9009.
9009 use that caps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RDErPyQ.png)
Thanks for setting my memory straight.
Post by: kalupa on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:34:11
Post by: janglad on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:34:46
I will be going through every single comment tomorrow and writing everything down on a spreadsheet so I can filter through advice!
Let's make this happen!!!! ;D ;D
Post by: Khers on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:38:03
I don't get how GH is alwas so hyped about text + icon mods.+1
Caps lock arrow and just text on the bottom row looks the cleanest.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mh8MlkN.jpg)
janglad: Run it like you intended to do, it doesn't get much better than your original renders.
Post by: Hill_Street on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:40:38
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:00:14
I don't get how GH is alwas so hyped about text + icon mods.+1
Caps lock arrow and just text on the bottom row looks the cleanest.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mh8MlkN.jpg)
janglad: Run it like you intended to do, it doesn't get much better than your original renders.
Exactly (but with purse caps). For those who want text, or text+icon => there is other sets to buy. This one is so rare, and changing the modifiers move this set away from what 9009 is.
Post by: dr-slump on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:15:23
Sorry if the question has already been asked, but I didn't find it while reading through this thread.
If yes, I'd definitely be in !
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:23:16
For those who want text, or text+icon => there is other sets to buy. This one is so rare, and changing the modifiers move this set away from what 9009 is.
Oh, does it really?
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Post by: aquafreshfan on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:25:54
Post by: avid on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:26:38
For those who want text, or text+icon => there is other sets to buy. This one is so rare, and changing the modifiers move this set away from what 9009 is.
Oh, does it really?
Im not talking about that. Im talking about the 9009 r1. If you look closer, there isnt many "deal" "quit" "interrupt" "cancel orders" etc etc keys in this GB and no one asks for them for a reason.
A serious question for you: Why dont you buy GMK classic retro + color mods (from this) instead? Classic retro is available today and you get the modifiers you want.
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:37:33
I really like the ISO-UK support. It's nice to include for ISO builders and not too much legend deviation from ANSI.
Which ISO countries even use the classic down arrow caps? Just German layouts?
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:39:20
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:42:27
Im not talking about that. Im talking about the 9009 r1. If you look closer, there isnt many "deal" "quit" "interrupt" "cancel orders" etc etc keys in this GB and no one asks for them for a reason.
A serious question for you: Why dont you buy GMK classic retro + color mods (from this) instead? Classic retro is available today and you get the modifiers you want.
Sorry for thinking that it might be a good idea to have a replica set actually.... you know... replicate something.
And I'm not buying GMK classic retro because I'm not paying over 200 for a GMK set, it's as easy as that. I've never said I won't buy this if it doesn't get text+icons, I'm buying it no matter what.
I'd just prefer text+icons for this.
Post by: smt on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:56:42
I'm unequivocally in for a base kit, in whatever form it happens to take. 90% confidence I'll go for any accent kits as well. 9009 is an endgame set for me.
As for mod legends, I'm indifferent to icon vs text -- as long as there are alternatives to the Windows logo.
Post by: OliverDK on Fri, 01 September 2017, 16:31:04
Will there be a NorDe/international/german kit available?
Sorry if the question has already been asked, but I didn't find it while reading through this thread.
If yes, I'd definitely be in !
It's on the first page of this thread. And yeah, it sucks. I wonder what the MOQ would be for such a kit. This set is so goddamn nice, I'm wondering if it's really impossible.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 01 September 2017, 17:15:53
Post by: dr-slump on Fri, 01 September 2017, 17:17:27
Will there be a NorDe/international/german kit available?
Sorry if the question has already been asked, but I didn't find it while reading through this thread.
If yes, I'd definitely be in !
It's on the first page of this thread. And yeah, it sucks. I wonder what the MOQ would be for such a kit. This set is so goddamn nice, I'm wondering if it's really impossible.
Thanks mate! Just looked it up. It's reeeeally a bummer :(
I believe that the MOQ could be met without a problem, especially when the seller is in the EU and all the import duties would fall away. (those account for an extra 31% in Germany !)
Post by: Wicky on Fri, 01 September 2017, 19:23:39
Post by: emusic on Fri, 01 September 2017, 19:31:54
Post by: ideus on Fri, 01 September 2017, 19:39:53
Would spacebar kits be a possibility to accommodate split space boards? Many people are keen on split space especially after the bananasplit groupbuy and I would kill for GMK 9009 with blank 2.75u, 2.25u, and 1.25u keys.
Check Wodan's upcoming buy, it would come with some space bars and some blank row B key caps that may fit your needs, you could check it at DT.
Post by: Hamel on Fri, 01 September 2017, 20:20:47
Post by: Stresemann on Fri, 01 September 2017, 22:24:56
9009 was one of my 3 endgame keycap set
Post by: bkw1209 on Sat, 02 September 2017, 00:33:04
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 02 September 2017, 00:47:20
Post by: ctrlX on Sat, 02 September 2017, 01:54:34
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Post by: hormbre on Sat, 02 September 2017, 03:48:53
FYI: KP is the most popular Group Buy proxy here in China, which has been proxy of SA Oblivion, SA Carbon, GMK Nautilus, GMK Yuri and so on.
You may connect 448391349@qq.com for collaboration details.
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 02 September 2017, 03:53:32
Please kindly tell us what are the differences with the old set: what keys aren't included any more?
Thanks
Post by: yasintahir on Sat, 02 September 2017, 04:16:15
You do a great job by adding R4 1.5u Super! Don't ruin it by adding Windows logo key pleaseAgreed! i'm interested with this keyset if you replace windows icon with 'super' or 'code'
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Post by: jebbra on Sat, 02 September 2017, 04:51:11
PS I'm in the all-icon (like Yuri add-on kit) side ;D
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 02 September 2017, 08:07:57
Can you please do R0 top row?And R5 bottom row?
Can be looked into again, but if I'm not mistaken I remember hearing that this can be quite costly?
Do not want either of these options, personally. But do what you feel is best for the set.
Post by: smithyithy on Sat, 02 September 2017, 08:24:28
But regardless, would you be able to add Fn keys to the bottom row? Not wanting to make the base set too big but a 1.25 and 1.5 bottom row Fn would be awesome
Post by: jhihguan on Sat, 02 September 2017, 09:40:40
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 02 September 2017, 14:53:56
Post by: janglad on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:00:43
I made a Google form requesting feedback about some things suggested here, it would be super cool if you could take a sec to fill this in! Again thank you so much for the support, let's get this thing going!!!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-7IHvJxF1FAsqEOYjHlzrIo6o-CZ-2QWqXdD_LqC6XM3QlQ/viewform
Post by: avid on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:05:55
Post by: Auk on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:18:36
beautiful icon mods
I don't think I'll be in for this set (not a fan of the Reuters agency) but I have to support this: icon only, or text only, but not both on the same key.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:20:02
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:43:20
Post by: janglad on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:50:11
Kind of sad you dont consider making second base set with icon+text mods.
Honestly, that would be perfect for me too since it would make everybody happy. I'm however just afraid of the scenario where both sets have too little to MOQ but would have had more than 150 combined :/ Unless people would be ok with agreeing with something like "If the icon+text set doesn't hit MOQ all orders will be converted into icon orders if the set doesn't succeed otherwise" but I don't know about that :'(
I just really don't want to take any unnecessary risks.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:53:51
Kind of sad you dont consider making second base set with icon+text mods.
Honestly, that would be perfect for me too since it would make everybody happy. I'm however just afraid of the scenario where both sets have too little to MOQ but would have had more than 150 combined :/ Unless people would be ok with agreeing with something like "If the icon+text set doesn't hit MOQ all orders will be converted into icon orders if the set doesn't succeed otherwise" but I don't know about that :'(
I just really don't want to take any unnecessary risks.
I will get this set anyway. So i would be glad if you could offer this. Honestly i am pretty sure it will make its 150 sets.
Post by: janglad on Sat, 02 September 2017, 19:04:40
Kind of sad you dont consider making second base set with icon+text mods.
Honestly, that would be perfect for me too since it would make everybody happy. I'm however just afraid of the scenario where both sets have too little to MOQ but would have had more than 150 combined :/ Unless people would be ok with agreeing with something like "If the icon+text set doesn't hit MOQ all orders will be converted into icon orders if the set doesn't succeed otherwise" but I don't know about that :'(
I just really don't want to take any unnecessary risks.
I will get this set anyway. So i would be glad if you could offer this. Honestly i am pretty sure it will make its 150 sets.
Well, I'll put it on the table again for sure. I was approached by a pretty big Chinese vendor (same people who proxied your set IIRC!) so that could be a pretty big chunk of orders coming in. Maybe I'm just worrying too much about not hitting MOQ :P
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 02 September 2017, 23:00:32
From the main kit, the thing missing is only 1u Ctrl. Beside it, we can cover Planck already.
But if you try to add 2.25u and 2.75u in spacebar kit, why not adding 2u and 2x 1u too? Planck is already in thousands number sold, I dare to say there are more Planck + Preonic compared to split space keyboard. GMK even have the convex version of R4 2u and 1u ;)
And it will be nice if the accent arrow is happening since it will add some beauty and make it 'real' 9009 :thumb:
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Post by: techfresh on Sat, 02 September 2017, 23:30:53
I'm fully aware that there won't be possible to add ergo/ortho kit like Nautilus did. So I will suggest some addition that needed for at least can cover Planck in right profile (Preonic is obviously covered too).I would add a 3rd set to my purchase to cover my plank if it had this.
From the main kit, the thing missing is only 1u Ctrl. Beside it, we can cover Planck already.
But if you try to add 2.25u and 2.75u in spacebar kit, why not adding 2u and 2x 1u too? Planck is already in thousands number sold, I dare to say there are more Planck + Preonic compared to split space keyboard. GMK even have the convex version of R4 2u and 1u ;)
And it will be nice if the accent arrow is happening since it will add some beauty and make it 'real' 9009 :thumb:
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Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 03 September 2017, 00:23:13
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 03 September 2017, 01:51:54
Simply rerun the same successful old kit, asking what people want to add, not what they want to remove.
I agree. Except don't go crazy adding everything.
Post by: punksinatra on Sun, 03 September 2017, 02:15:00
Simply rerun the same successful old kit, asking what people want to add, not what they want to remove.
I agree. Except don't go crazy adding everything.
+1 it would be best to run the same successful old kit and just add a few bits and pieces
Post by: Wicky on Sun, 03 September 2017, 02:23:45
Simply rerun the same successful old kit, asking what people want to add, not what they want to remove.
I agree. Except don't go crazy adding everything.
+1 it would be best to run the same successful old kit and just add a few bits and pieces
+1 Just go with what was successful, and aim to make it better. Why start Round 2 with so many revisions?
Post by: neon_tom on Sun, 03 September 2017, 02:27:50
Simply rerun the same successful old kit, asking what people want to add, not what they want to remove.
Couldn’t agree more.
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Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 03 September 2017, 02:55:46
Simply rerun the same successful old kit, asking what people want to add, not what they want to remove.
Couldn’t agree more.
+1
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 03 September 2017, 05:43:26
Simply rerun the same successful old kit, asking what people want to add, not what they want to remove.
Couldn’t agree more.
+1
+2
Post by: avid on Sun, 03 September 2017, 05:46:16
Post by: turbosloth on Sun, 03 September 2017, 06:05:02
I'm fully aware that there won't be possible to add ergo/ortho kit like Nautilus did. So I will suggest some addition that needed for at least can cover Planck in right profile (Preonic is obviously covered too).
From the main kit, the thing missing is only 1u Ctrl. Beside it, we can cover Planck already.
I like this idea. On the fence right now, but this would definitely make me pick it up
Post by: cucgach on Sun, 03 September 2017, 09:51:57
Post by: Auk on Sun, 03 September 2017, 10:07:53
Minila friendly?
I believe it's not currently possible in GMK, as there is no 3u spacebar mold available. Split spacebar is getting more popular, so maybe it will happen eventually.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 September 2017, 10:21:27
I think the set should stay as close to the original 9009 as possible but with a few additions. Keep it icons, keep the accents in the base kit, and don't over complicate things with split or 40% compatibility.
Post by: avid on Sun, 03 September 2017, 10:23:24
Post by: ideus on Sun, 03 September 2017, 10:35:27
Post by: avid on Sun, 03 September 2017, 10:36:44
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:08:24
Results for the caps lock are 21.7% don't care, 36.7% arrow style and 41.7% Purse. This is really isn't a big win for one part since it's only a 5% difference.
Icon mods are pretty much a 50/50 yes/no. As much as I want it I think it will have to be dropped.
32% of people answered they wouldn't get the set anymore if it was more expensive, meaning that adding even more keys to the base kit isn't really an option since it will already be quite costly thanks to all the accent keys.
As for special requests, it's pretty much a 50/50 of people screaming for either Super mods or Windows mods :confused:
Super mods just make more sense to me since the set is based on the G80-9009 which was made before Windows 10 (or even Windows 98 since GMK also has an option for that) was even a thing. Also, they just seem more neutral to me since both PC, Mac and Linux users can use them.
Something that will be a separate kit for sure is windowed keys. What I'm thinking right now is to either keep the base kit as is (would be easiest since there already is a quote in for it) and add a small kit with Windows keys, purse caps locks and some LED keys. This could also be done the other way around with Windows keys and the purse caps lock in the base kit and the 2 other options as an add on.
What do you guys think of that? I'm just trying to find a balance between the cheapest base kit possible and still having the most people happy. Never thought that mod icons would be such a big issue :confused: :confused: :confused:
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:10:58
Separately accent kits would be better cost wise.
Would make for a lower cost of entry, yes, but I think that 90% of the people would at least want enter and escape accents and that separating the kits would only make for more complication. I really want to take as little risks as possible here :(
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:11:33
It's better to sell colored spacebars as a separate kit, since i know many will want more than one set.
Yes, they will be sold in a separate kit!
Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:12:07
Post by: avid on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:15:49
Post by: ullr on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:39:10
Icon mods are pretty much a 50/50 yes/no. As much as I want it I think it will have to be dropped.
Does this refer to dropping the Yuri icon mods kit or icon mods in general?
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:41:06
Yuri icon modsIcon mods are pretty much a 50/50 yes/no. As much as I want it I think it will have to be dropped.
Does this refer to dropping the Yuri icon mods kit or icon mods in general?
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Post by: ideus on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:43:03
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:43:20
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:43:27
Dude, the set you posted renders of on first page is perfect. Just run with that :)
Haha yeah, I would love to but people seem to disagree :/
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:44:35
Text + Icons is already covered by classic retro no? (https://originative.co/products/classic-retro)
Yes, I'm not planning on making this text+icon mods. When I said there was a 50/50 yes no for icon mods I meant an extra kit with all icon mods like Yuri has.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:45:32
Keep the super mods and the 9009 accent keys in the base set and put the colored space bars and led keys in kits.
Would you add Windows 10 icon keys to the LED kit? Or just go with caps lock and super as is and not having any other options?
Post by: ullr on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:45:39
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:47:08
That’s a relief, I thought you were seriously considering doing text mods. I would buy the Yuri kit, but it isn’t a big deal if it doesn’t run.
Well, I can always add it and hope it hits MOQ. As I have said before, the biggest fear for me with that is that people would request refunds for the base set too if the icon kit doesn't hit MOQ. When working with such a high MOQ that could lead to issues.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:50:02
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Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:53:10
Just make the yuri kit an extension. Not a base kit. Then you have to buy the base regardless. Worst case yuri extension misses moq.
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Nono, it would be a separate kit for sure. What I meant was that people might not want the set anymore if they hear the icon kit has failed.
Say we have 155 base kits sold and 90 icon mod kits. This would mean 90 people would not get all the kits they want since the MOQ is also 150. If of those 90 people 10 people say "sorry but this set just isn't the same for me without the icons, I'm requesting a refund for everything", then the base kit would be sitting under MOQ too. Of course getting 5 extra sets wouldn't be the worst thing in the world but you get what I mean.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:08:48
Just make the yuri kit an extension. Not a base kit. Then you have to buy the base regardless. Worst case yuri extension misses moq.
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Nono, it would be a separate kit for sure. What I meant was that people might not want the set anymore if they hear the icon kit has failed.
Say we have 155 base kits sold and 90 icon mod kits. This would mean 90 people would not get all the kits they want since the MOQ is also 150. If of those 90 people 10 people say "sorry but this set just isn't the same for me without the icons, I'm requesting a refund for everything", then the base kit would be sitting under MOQ too. Of course getting 5 extra sets wouldn't be the worst thing in the world but you get what I mean.
Ahhh, i see what you mean, i forget some ppl can be like that lol.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:09:33
Keep the super mods and the 9009 accent keys in the base set and put the colored space bars and led keys in kits.
Would you add Windows 10 icon keys to the LED kit? Or just go with caps lock and super as is and not having any other options?
The win 10 keys do not match the theme of the set, then, they would fit better in a separated kit.
Post by: jebbra on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:32:07
Just make the yuri kit an extension. Not a base kit. Then you have to buy the base regardless. Worst case yuri extension misses moq.
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Nono, it would be a separate kit for sure. What I meant was that people might not want the set anymore if they hear the icon kit has failed.
Say we have 155 base kits sold and 90 icon mod kits. This would mean 90 people would not get all the kits they want since the MOQ is also 150. If of those 90 people 10 people say "sorry but this set just isn't the same for me without the icons, I'm requesting a refund for everything", then the base kit would be sitting under MOQ too. Of course getting 5 extra sets wouldn't be the worst thing in the world but you get what I mean.
But with the 4 page discussion in 1 day, and seeing the aftermarket price, I believe this will easily surpassed 300 base kit.
@janglad but adding another 1u ctrl so it will be a pair won't hurt, don't you think?
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:36:20
Just make the yuri kit an extension. Not a base kit. Then you have to buy the base regardless. Worst case yuri extension misses moq.
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Nono, it would be a separate kit for sure. What I meant was that people might not want the set anymore if they hear the icon kit has failed.
Say we have 155 base kits sold and 90 icon mod kits. This would mean 90 people would not get all the kits they want since the MOQ is also 150. If of those 90 people 10 people say "sorry but this set just isn't the same for me without the icons, I'm requesting a refund for everything", then the base kit would be sitting under MOQ too. Of course getting 5 extra sets wouldn't be the worst thing in the world but you get what I mean.
But with the 4 page discussion in 1 day, and seeing the aftermarket price, I believe this will easily surpassed 300 base kit.
@janglad but adding another 1u ctrl so it will be a pair won't hurt, don't you think?
Yeah there sure is hype for the set, but from speaking with vendors it's really easy to get too confident just because a set gets a lot of upvotes and comments, however, the actual amount of people getting the set can be a lot lower.
Edit: and yes, the 1u ctrl can be added for basic Planck support :)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:40:44
Yeah there sure is hype for the set, but from speaking with vendors it's really easy to get too confident just because a set gets a lot of upvotes and comments, however, the actual amount of people getting the set can be a lot lower.
Edit: and yes, the 1u ctrl can be added for basic Planck support :)
As long as you have a clear release date and a decent order window, you can't fail with this set. It's when you keep changing the release and people get unclear about it.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:42:51
Yeah there sure is hype for the set, but from speaking with vendors it's really easy to get too confident just because a set gets a lot of upvotes and comments, however, the actual amount of people getting the set can be a lot lower.
Edit: and yes, the 1u ctrl can be added for basic Planck support :)
As long as you have a clear release date and a decent order window, you can't fail with this set. It's when you keep changing the release and people get unclear about it.
+1 Build the confidence of the people by being a committed and accomplished GB leader.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:43:12
Yeah there sure is hype for the set, but from speaking with vendors it's really easy to get too confident just because a set gets a lot of upvotes and comments, however, the actual amount of people getting the set can be a lot lower.
Edit: and yes, the 1u ctrl can be added for basic Planck support :)
As long as you have a clear release date and a decent order window, you can't fail with this set. It's when you keep changing the release and people get unclear about it.
Yes, I agree. I'm going to work on what I believe will be the best kit option going by feedback and then say it's locked unless there are absolute major issues with it (which I doubt since they'd probably be pointed out by now). Then I will submit everything to GMK, meaning that the GB will go live as soon as we receive their quote.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:04:52
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:07:40
Anyone know for sure if the new green and pale pink accent colors for sale on originative are the same colors as 9009?
3A/3C, so, yeah it should be.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:12:53
Just make the yuri kit an extension. Not a base kit. Then you have to buy the base regardless. Worst case yuri extension misses moq.
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Nono, it would be a separate kit for sure. What I meant was that people might not want the set anymore if they hear the icon kit has failed.
Say we have 155 base kits sold and 90 icon mod kits. This would mean 90 people would not get all the kits they want since the MOQ is also 150. If of those 90 people 10 people say "sorry but this set just isn't the same for me without the icons, I'm requesting a refund for everything", then the base kit would be sitting under MOQ too. Of course getting 5 extra sets wouldn't be the worst thing in the world but you get what I mean.
But with the 4 page discussion in 1 day, and seeing the aftermarket price, I believe this will easily surpassed 300 base kit.
@janglad but adding another 1u ctrl so it will be a pair won't hurt, don't you think?
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:13:37
Anyone know for sure if the new green and pale pink accent colors for sale on originative are the same colors as 9009?
3A/3C, so, yeah it should be.
9009 is 3B and 3C.
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Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:15:50
Anyone know for sure if the new green and pale pink accent colors for sale on originative are the same colors as 9009?
3A/3C, so, yeah it should be.
So you can get classic on oco for $180 and then pay $50 for the green and pink kits (but no space bars). Yeah, I think waiting for a new round of 9009 seems much more sensible. Although, that win95 key is tempting. It's just not $100 worth of tempting.
;D
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:17:54
Anyone know for sure if the new green and pale pink accent colors for sale on originative are the same colors as 9009?
3A/3C, so, yeah it should be.
So you can get classic on oco for $180 and then pay $50 for the green and pink kits (but no space bars). Yeah, I think waiting for a new round of 9009 seems much more sensible. Although, that win95 key is tempting. It's just not $100 worth of tempting.
;D
Wait $50 for an accent kit without spacebars? I'm not seeing that one actually :D Could you linnk me?
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:22:11
Anyone know for sure if the new green and pale pink accent colors for sale on originative are the same colors as 9009?
3A/3C, so, yeah it should be.
So you can get classic on oco for $180 and then pay $50 for the green and pink kits (but no space bars). Yeah, I think waiting for a new round of 9009 seems much more sensible. Although, that win95 key is tempting. It's just not $100 worth of tempting.
;D
Wait $50 for an accent kit without spacebars? I'm not seeing that one actually :D Could you linnk me?
$25 per color: https://originative.co/products/accent-keys-two
I dunno why they are so weird with the key choices. The other set is much better: https://originative.co/products/accent-keys-one
But that one drops the backspace and still no spaces.
I wish they did all the keys in the 1st kit + spaces + backspace. Then it would be flexible. But the accent-2 kits make no sense to me, an esc and then backspace + enter + arrows would look weird.
Post by: Petch on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:26:00
Post by: jebbra on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:27:10
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:27:54
Will the keys with an LED window (if you run them) be pad printed or triple shot? I'm not sure what GMK can offer
GMK cannot do triple shot so it'd be pad.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:28:42
Will the keys with an LED window (if you run them) be pad printed or triple shot? I'm not sure what GMK can offer
GMK cannot do triple shot so it'd be pad.
Don't they usually double shot the top face and then pad print the front on windowed keys like that?
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Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:30:01
Will the keys with an LED window (if you run them) be pad printed or triple shot? I'm not sure what GMK can offer
GMK cannot do triple shot so it'd be pad.
Don't they usually double shot the top face and then pad print the front on windowed keys like that?
The two shots are the window and the actual cap, and then the text is pad.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:32:12
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:45:54
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Check out GMK Coniferous. Or the ongoing Led Zep gb. Or Terminal. Those sets have great coverage. I think it's for people who use a non standard HHKB layout. Totally redundant for people like me who only use the 1us for 65%, but I assume people must have some use for em.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:47:14
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Check out GMK Coniferous. Or the ongoing Led Zep gb. Or Terminal. Those sets have great coverage. I think it's for people who use a non standard HHKB layout. Totally redundant for people like me who only use the 1us for 65%, but I assume people must have some use for em.
You mean a HHKB layout with ctrl alt space alt ctrl as a bottom row? TBH I doubt many people use that. Anyways, the CTRL will be added :)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:52:15
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Check out GMK Coniferous. Or the ongoing Led Zep gb. Or Terminal. Those sets have great coverage. I think it's for people who use a non standard HHKB layout. Totally redundant for people like me who only use the 1us for 65%, but I assume people must have some use for em.
You mean a HHKB layout with ctrl alt space alt ctrl as a bottom row? TBH I doubt many people use that. Anyways, the CTRL will be added :)
That would be my best guess. Those same people usually want a caps lock FN key instead of a caps lock control.
The 2 1u Alts is the really weird layout though lol. Alt Ctrl Space Ctrl Alt just seems wrong lol.
Post by: jebbra on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:57:29
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Ah you're right, the set you mention only have 1 of them, looks like I mistake the Code for Ctrl on some of them, my bad.
But Yuri, Skeletor, Stromtrooper, Royal Alpha, SoWaRe, Solarized Dark, Coniferous, Penumbra, and Terminal has them in pair.
Post by: jebbra on Sun, 03 September 2017, 14:02:52
That would be my best guess. Those same people usually want a caps lock FN key instead of a caps lock control.
The 2 1u Alts is the really weird layout though lol. Alt Ctrl Space Ctrl Alt just seems wrong lol.
Maybe for people using Windows while they are originally Mac user? Because Command is acting like Ctrl so alt ctrl space ctrl alt is make sense in Mac way. I really like the addition of 1.5 Super here because on Mac finally the Command key will be less awkward. Well speaking of it, since only Mac using 1.5u OSkey why not making it Command instead? Assuming Super is a new mould too.
Post by: Oatburner on Sun, 03 September 2017, 14:08:13
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Check out GMK Coniferous. Or the ongoing Led Zep gb. Or Terminal. Those sets have great coverage. I think it's for people who use a non standard HHKB layout. Totally redundant for people like me who only use the 1us for 65%, but I assume people must have some use for em.
You mean a HHKB layout with ctrl alt space alt ctrl as a bottom row? TBH I doubt many people use that. Anyways, the CTRL will be added :)
I use that. Alt super space super alt seems even more weird to me. Many new sets are coming with a pair of 1u controls for the bottom row.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 14:09:33
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Check out GMK Coniferous. Or the ongoing Led Zep gb. Or Terminal. Those sets have great coverage. I think it's for people who use a non standard HHKB layout. Totally redundant for people like me who only use the 1us for 65%, but I assume people must have some use for em.
You mean a HHKB layout with ctrl alt space alt ctrl as a bottom row? TBH I doubt many people use that. Anyways, the CTRL will be added :)
I use that. Alt super space super alt seems even more weird to me. Many new sets are coming with a pair of 1u controls for the bottom row.
Interesting. Well, you'll have your 2 1u CTRLs :)
Post by: Owl- on Sun, 03 September 2017, 14:36:22
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Check out GMK Coniferous. Or the ongoing Led Zep gb. Or Terminal. Those sets have great coverage. I think it's for people who use a non standard HHKB layout. Totally redundant for people like me who only use the 1us for 65%, but I assume people must have some use for em.
You mean a HHKB layout with ctrl alt space alt ctrl as a bottom row? TBH I doubt many people use that. Anyways, the CTRL will be added :)
I use that. Alt super space super alt seems even more weird to me. Many new sets are coming with a pair of 1u controls for the bottom row.
Interesting. Well, you'll have your 2 1u CTRLs :)
Please add a 1U 'Hack' key for R4.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 15:05:16
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Check out GMK Coniferous. Or the ongoing Led Zep gb. Or Terminal. Those sets have great coverage. I think it's for people who use a non standard HHKB layout. Totally redundant for people like me who only use the 1us for 65%, but I assume people must have some use for em.
You mean a HHKB layout with ctrl alt space alt ctrl as a bottom row? TBH I doubt many people use that. Anyways, the CTRL will be added :)
I use that. Alt super space super alt seems even more weird to me. Many new sets are coming with a pair of 1u controls for the bottom row.
Interesting. Well, you'll have your 2 1u CTRLs :)
Please add a 1U 'Hack' key for R4.
Sorry but first of all I doubt GMK has moulds for that and secondly I doubt a lot of people use that :/
Post by: Owl- on Sun, 03 September 2017, 17:18:04
I just realised, by adding a kit which will have 2 1u Windows keys there would be no need anymore for an extra 1u ctrl right?
This would be ideal since the quote for this kit design is already in and I really want to get 9009 in your hands as soon as possible :D Don't want to rush it either though, so if you think adding a 1u ctrl would still be best please let me know :)
I don't know the other layout that use a pair of 1u Ctrl tho, but almost every GMK sets are having them, along with a pair of 1u Alt. And talking about winkey, well I'm on the OS neutral key here but aside from that, if winkey come only in 1u won't it make them awkward? I don't see the point of winkey where we already have Super key as the agnosticOS key.
So yeah, another 1u Ctrl is better IMO.
Which GMK sets have it? I just checked and Nautilus, Carbon, HyperFuse and Muted all seem to be missing it.
The kit would also include 1.25 Windows keys :)
I'm adding them because people seem to be really divided over if they want a Windows logo or "Super".
Check out GMK Coniferous. Or the ongoing Led Zep gb. Or Terminal. Those sets have great coverage. I think it's for people who use a non standard HHKB layout. Totally redundant for people like me who only use the 1us for 65%, but I assume people must have some use for em.
You mean a HHKB layout with ctrl alt space alt ctrl as a bottom row? TBH I doubt many people use that. Anyways, the CTRL will be added :)
I use that. Alt super space super alt seems even more weird to me. Many new sets are coming with a pair of 1u controls for the bottom row.
Interesting. Well, you'll have your 2 1u CTRLs :)
Please add a 1U 'Hack' key for R4.
Sorry but first of all I doubt GMK has moulds for that and secondly I doubt a lot of people use that :/
They have moulds for that because few other recent sets will have them, so they're being produced for sure. If not, an extra 1u Fn key would be brilliant - please.
Edit:
Whatever extras are added or adjustments to the set, is GMK still willing to produce the set somewhere in September?
Post by: avid on Sun, 03 September 2017, 17:32:48
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 17:50:09
You're talking about an extreme fringe key (hack). I think people would rather see x2 caps lock (purse + german) rather than a hack key.
Yes, I agree. I'm going to sleep now (00:37 am here). The slightly updated base kit is rendering now, I still have to make some models for the windowed caps lock, scroll-lock and num-lock which I will do tomorrow. All kit design and renders should be done by tomorrow and ready to put in for another quote at GMK. There will be the base kit, a space bar kit with centre stem 6u, 6.25u and 7u spacebars in 3B and 3C and a kit with Windows 10 keys, windowed keys and the "purse" caps lock keys.
I'm working with KP to set up a Chinese proxy right now. Here's their store, as you can see they are already running a ton of stuff!
https://cool-goods.world.taobao.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a1z09.1.a1zvx.d53.54f06f8bHZbEmN&mytmenu=mdianpu&user_number_id=1713761720
There are going to be some people displeased with the "purse" caps lock and Windows 10 keys being in a separate kit, even though it shouldn't cost much at all. I just feel like Windows 10 keys don't make sense on a set based on a board made in the 90's and that a German style caps lock makes more sense for a set based on a board made in Germany :P. Anyways, for those who want it, there still will be a (hopefully) affordable option.
As long as GMK doesn't take ages to reply this GB should be up in weeks time since kit design and renders will be done tomorrow, everything with the US and EU vendors is already set up and I'm in talks about the Asian proxy.
All by all, I hope that most people are going to be happy :) I really am putting as much effort into this as I can. Thank you again for all your enthusiasm, support and feedback! I can assure you that I will do everything I can to make this GB as snappy and smooth as possible!
Good night :thumb:
Edit: ooh and per request, I am also bringing the front printed legends back to the numpad!
Post by: hormbre on Sun, 03 September 2017, 17:55:21
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Post by: avid on Sun, 03 September 2017, 17:58:10
Have never seen anything go this fast and you responding to everything, poll us and GB is soon ready to go?
Is this your first GB janglad?
Post by: Wicky on Sun, 03 September 2017, 17:59:36
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 18:01:48
This is excellent janglad.
Have never seen anything go this fast and you responding to everything, poll us and GB is soon ready to go?
Is this your first GB janglad?
This is indeed my first GB yes! However, by talking with a lot of people about running GB's over the months that I have been in the community I have sure picked up a lot of useful advice for which I am very thankful :) Also, the fact that I'll be working with already proven vendors for this set is also a big plus of course!
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 18:02:16
Am I crazy or does no one care about how the numpad has no sub-legends (nav keys + arrow keys) at all? Genuine question. I've brought this up and no one seems to mind. Because I thought the side printed sub-legends looked really unique on round 1 9009. Would really like to see them return.
Check my edit on my previous comment, I'm bringing them back!
Post by: janglad on Sun, 03 September 2017, 18:02:47
Well done ! Have a nice dream : )
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Thank you :D
Post by: avid on Sun, 03 September 2017, 18:05:07
Post by: Owl- on Sun, 03 September 2017, 19:10:04
You're talking about an extreme fringe key (hack). I think people would rather see x2 caps lock (purse + german) rather than a hack key.
It's mostly there for dual Fn usage. it's a universal key to make things variant. Two Fn keys are perfectly fine regardless. It's pretty much what I'm requesting, an extra 1U Fn key, not some next thing. There's no point seeing two caps lock when there's just one spot that takes it.
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Post by: ullr on Sun, 03 September 2017, 22:02:04
You're talking about an extreme fringe key (hack). I think people would rather see x2 caps lock (purse + german) rather than a hack key.
It's mostly there for dual Fn usage. it's a universal key to make things variant. Two Fn keys are perfectly fine regardless. It's pretty much what I'm requesting, an extra 1U Fn key, not some next thing. There's no point seeing two caps lock when there's just one spot that takes it.
I also use two Fn keys with my 7u spacebar layouts, FWIW, and sets never have two :(
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 September 2017, 22:18:52
You're talking about an extreme fringe key (hack). I think people would rather see x2 caps lock (purse + german) rather than a hack key.
It's mostly there for dual Fn usage. it's a universal key to make things variant. Two Fn keys are perfectly fine regardless. It's pretty much what I'm requesting, an extra 1U Fn key, not some next thing. There's no point seeing two caps lock when there's just one spot that takes it.
I also use two Fn keys with my 7u spacebar layouts, FWIW, and sets never have two :(
Me too actually. I just don't mind the win/Code/super key for the other one (right win key for me). But I'd probably use 2 fn keys if I had em. Still not important imo, but wouldn't be the worst thing. Could also just add a couple blanks as an alternative, but I'm sure for some that would be worse lol.
Post by: jebbra on Mon, 04 September 2017, 02:39:15
Now if only the accent kit have arrows too, and the spacebar kit have 2u and 2x 1u convex :p
I know Oco has them accents but damn that price and they now only offer $40++ shipping to my country. Bye.
Post by: DreLLin on Mon, 04 September 2017, 04:25:52
The kit should be like the Carbon or Plum kit or even the reduced Nautilus kit would work for me.
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Maybe you can start an interest check and see if there is enough demand for that set?
If you don't want to do it, maybe someone else has the time and experience to run this?
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 04 September 2017, 06:46:58
would it be possible to add an international kit?In my opinion, a NorDe kit will likely fail with a Classic Beige scheme as you can find regional ISO keyboards with either dyesub or doubleshot keycaps with those colours.
Post by: DreLLin on Mon, 04 September 2017, 07:03:08
would it be possible to add an international kit?In my opinion, a NorDe kit will likely fail with a Classic Beige scheme as you can find regional ISO keyboards with either dyesub or doubleshot keycaps with those colours.
Therefore I suggested to run an interest check and see if there is enough demand.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 September 2017, 07:39:49
would it be possible to add an international kit?In my opinion, a NorDe kit will likely fail with a Classic Beige scheme as you can find regional ISO keyboards with either dyesub or doubleshot keycaps with those colours.
Therefore I suggested to run an interest check and see if there is enough demand.
There is no point in offering a beige international kit, because, this color may be the one with wider international coverage, if you want to adapt your upcoming 9009 to your language just get a Norde OG Cherry set and use the keys needed to make this compatible. The Wodan's kit makes all sense in special colors that you do not have any other source for, but not for beige.
Post by: avid on Mon, 04 September 2017, 07:49:38
would it be possible to add an international kit?In my opinion, a NorDe kit will likely fail with a Classic Beige scheme as you can find regional ISO keyboards with either dyesub or doubleshot keycaps with those colours.
Therefore I suggested to run an interest check and see if there is enough demand.
norde kit wont reach MOQ outside of massdrop and even then it barely makes it and more often than not it wont reach MOQ. Nautilus was approx 2500 base-kits and 100 or so norde kits. Yuri sold 935 base kits and only 40 norde kits.
Since MOQ is 100 or so, its not feasible to run it.
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 04 September 2017, 08:23:08
Post by: mastercheif116 on Mon, 04 September 2017, 09:38:54
Post by: kwyryn on Mon, 04 September 2017, 09:58:42
Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 04 September 2017, 10:08:53
Can you please do R0 top row?
I will look into the pricing of this, it would sure make the set look a lot better on 75% and 96key boards! Thank you :)
Awesome! To further convince you and everyone else let me quote myself:
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Let me explain why we all need this... In the old age, when humanity knew that keyboards were very important, and an effort should be put in to make them as awesome as they could, whatever the cost, there was a distinct profile for each row:
http://cherryamericas.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/12.gif
This, of course, is better for typing since the caps then compensate for the distance between them and your fingers by reaching out you. However, as time went on, more and more commoners have learned how to operate a personal computer, and commoners do not have the cognitive capacity to notice if the top and bottom two rows are the same profile or not, they probably pick with two fingers anyway. So, sadly, we have come to a time that it makes business sense to forego this vital function in the production of keyboards.
BUT, we, the enlighted souls, know better. Those that have tasted the sweet nectar of R0 have never looked back. Also, the unique profiles for each row make keyboards more beautiful, especially 75%-96% boards, since they make the landscape of the keyboard more varied, compensating for the lack of bezels inbetween keys.
The mould exist, as is known by Ivan's Miami Night's GB (RIP),
We would be talking about F1-F12,prtscr,scrllock,pause and for 96% users insert,home,pgup
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Post by: janglad on Mon, 04 September 2017, 15:59:25
As you can see I have updated the original post with the slightly updated base kit and the newly added add-on and space-bar kits. Like mentioned in the post, this kit design will stay locked unless major issues are found. The changes made are
- Adding a 1u ctrl for basic Planck support
- Adding the front printed legends found on the original 9009 set
- Adding an add-on kit so people will have the option to use Windows keys and the purse caps lock
- Adding a space-bar kit with support for split space boards.
This will be put in for a second quote over on GMK. I will be sure that all pages on vendor sites will be set up as soon as possible, meaning that the set will go on sale as soon as I receive a reply from Germany! Thank you for helping to make this set a reality!
Post by: avid on Mon, 04 September 2017, 16:12:13
1) Was something like f5-f8 and colored arrow keys not something that was popular enough? I think this is something you can use both with this set and with any other beige sets for some nice contrast.
2) With regards to the windows logo, i think a lot of people would like and prefer the GMK classic retro symbol instead. The normal one is not as nice. Different logo shouldnt change the price quote from GMK i suppose if its being changed. The old windows logo fit in so good with a classic white/beige set.
(http://i.imgur.com/00vL1GY.jpg)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 04 September 2017, 16:19:27
(http://i.imgur.com/yXtlE6L.jpg)
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 04 September 2017, 16:55:40
Post by: janglad on Mon, 04 September 2017, 16:57:34
Please add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
Post by: mastercheif116 on Mon, 04 September 2017, 16:59:12
Hey guys!
As you can see I have updated the original post with the slightly updated base kit and the newly added add-on and space-bar kits. Like mentioned in the post, this kit design will stay locked unless major issues are found. The changes made are
- Adding a 1u ctrl for basic Planck support
- Adding the front printed legends found on the original 9009 set
- Adding an add-on kit so people will have the option to use Windows keys and the purse caps lock
- Adding a space-bar kit with support for split space boards.
This will be put in for a second quote over on GMK. I will be sure that all pages on vendor sites will be set up as soon as possible, meaning that the set will go on sale as soon as I receive a reply from Germany! Thank you for helping to make this set a reality!
Looked great before, and its even more perfect now. Cannot wait to splash out for this!
Post by: janglad on Mon, 04 September 2017, 16:59:29
Very happy with the kits! Can't wait to place my order.
1) Was something like f5-f8 and colored arrow keys not something that was popular enough? I think this is something you can use both with this set and with any other beige sets for some nice contrast.
2) With regards to the windows logo, i think a lot of people would like and prefer the GMK classic retro symbol instead. The normal one is not as nice. Different logo shouldnt change the price quote from GMK i suppose if its being changed. The old windows logo fit in so good with a classic white/beige set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/00vL1GY.jpg)
75.5% of people in the poll didn't care about the F-keys, so I decided to not add them. Also, even though I would personally like an older Windows logo a lot more people just almost didn't ask for that but kept asking about the Windows 10 keys :/
Post by: janglad on Mon, 04 September 2017, 17:00:02
Can we have 1u winkeys in R5 profile at least? They would match the old winkeyless R5 sets.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yXtlE6L.jpg)
I get the appeal of this, but you have to understand that this would add cost to this set for keys that aren't even compatible with this set.
Post by: janglad on Mon, 04 September 2017, 17:00:28
Hey guys!
As you can see I have updated the original post with the slightly updated base kit and the newly added add-on and space-bar kits. Like mentioned in the post, this kit design will stay locked unless major issues are found. The changes made are
- Adding a 1u ctrl for basic Planck support
- Adding the front printed legends found on the original 9009 set
- Adding an add-on kit so people will have the option to use Windows keys and the purse caps lock
- Adding a space-bar kit with support for split space boards.
This will be put in for a second quote over on GMK. I will be sure that all pages on vendor sites will be set up as soon as possible, meaning that the set will go on sale as soon as I receive a reply from Germany! Thank you for helping to make this set a reality!
Looked great before, and its even more perfect now. Cannot wait to splash out for this!
I'm glad you're liking it. I tried to find the best balance possible :)
Post by: avid on Mon, 04 September 2017, 17:05:50
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 04 September 2017, 17:06:53
Post by: sth on Mon, 04 September 2017, 17:28:01
Post by: janglad on Mon, 04 September 2017, 17:34:14
I know you're probably set on GMK, and I'll probably still be in for a set if it's ABS, but I wonder how many people would want 9009 in PBT.
There was one of those recently, but sadly it's a lot harder to get colour right when you're not working with the original manufacturer of the set
(https://storage.googleapis.com/keyclack-146908.appspot.com/images/pbt9009/pbt9009_1.jpg)
Post by: romevi on Mon, 04 September 2017, 19:56:53
Post by: jebbra on Mon, 04 September 2017, 19:59:17
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 September 2017, 20:40:37
I know you're probably set on GMK, and I'll probably still be in for a set if it's ABS, but I wonder how many people would want 9009 in PBT.
9009 is abs double shot, the same color without highlights is already available as ePBT, you should ask someone running those GB and stock sets to issue a knockoff of the highlights, it would be all you need to have a full 9009 like set.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 04 September 2017, 21:04:48
How is this IC so long already?
Cause 9009 is op
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 04 September 2017, 21:05:05
I know you're probably set on GMK, and I'll probably still be in for a set if it's ABS, but I wonder how many people would want 9009 in PBT.
9009 is abs double shot, the same color without highlights is already available as ePBT, you should ask someone running those GB and stock sets to issue a knockoff of the highlights, it would be all you need to have a full 9009 like set.
Jchan tried to run the pbt version of these on keyclack and they didn't hit MOQ. That's what the photo above is from
https://www.keyclack.com/groupbuy/pbt9009
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 September 2017, 21:08:15
I know you're probably set on GMK, and I'll probably still be in for a set if it's ABS, but I wonder how many people would want 9009 in PBT.
9009 is abs double shot, the same color without highlights is already available as ePBT, you should ask someone running those GB and stock sets to issue a knockoff of the highlights, it would be all you need to have a full 9009 like set.
Jchan tried to run the pbt version of these on keyclack and they didn't hit MOQ. That's what the photo above is from
Of course, the comment was focused to let the guy that this set would not be a good candidate for PBT, if he wants it just with a few highlights a decent knockoff could be put together, I do not have any interest in PBT my self, for the record.
Post by: punksinatra on Mon, 04 September 2017, 21:58:19
How is this IC so long already?
Because a lot of thing are either
1. Being changed
2. Being removed
3. Being added
Like in page 4, some people including me has suggested to run the same old successful kit and just a few things that people are missing. Feels like this is not Round 2 since it has become a completely different set. Should be renamed to GMK 9009 Janglad Edition :p :p
Post by: Jedi on Mon, 04 September 2017, 22:10:51
I know you're probably set on GMK, and I'll probably still be in for a set if it's ABS, but I wonder how many people would want 9009 in PBT.
Please no, its GMK or bust! Can't wait for the GB phase @janglad, thanks for putting in all the work :thumb:
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 05 September 2017, 00:48:43
Post by: ctrlX on Tue, 05 September 2017, 00:51:42
There was a GB just recently for that:I know you're probably set on GMK, and I'll probably still be in for a set if it's ABS, but I wonder how many people would want 9009 in PBT.
Please no, its GMK or bust! Can't wait for the GB phase @janglad, thanks for putting in all the work :thumb:
https://www.keyclack.com/groupbuy/pbt9009
It did not reach MOQ afaik.
GMK or bust!
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Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 05 September 2017, 02:35:11
I surely do and I do understand why it's not gonna be added. Thanks for your reply.Can we have 1u winkeys in R5 profile at least? They would match the old winkeyless R5 sets.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yXtlE6L.jpg)
I get the appeal of this, but you have to understand that this would add cost to this set for keys that aren't even compatible with this set.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 05 September 2017, 06:25:57
How is this IC so long already?
Because a lot of thing are either
1. Being changed
2. Being removed
3. Being added
Like in page 4, some people including me has suggested to run the same old successful kit and just a few things that people are missing. Feels like this is not Round 2 since it has become a completely different set. Should be renamed to GMK 9009 Janglad Edition :p :p
Well, I don't really see how changing 2 keys turns this into a completely different set. Even if you think that's true, grab the add-on kit and you get your purse caps lock and Windows 10 keys back. I also don't really see how you don't see a German caps lock and no Windows keys just make more sense on a keyset based on a keyboard made in Germany in the 90's.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 05 September 2017, 06:27:33
So no 2u convex and 1u convex in spacebar kit janglad?
Out of the almost 260 people who filled in the form 3 people requested that :/
Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 05 September 2017, 06:28:12
Is it too late to add Colemak/Dvorak support now that Yuri and Nautilus has led the way for molds?
I was wondering this. But because it's beige and it could be used with other beige sets, I wonder if it could be done as a separate little GB?
Post by: janglad on Tue, 05 September 2017, 06:28:55
Is it too late to add Colemak/Dvorak support now that Yuri and Nautilus has led the way for molds?
Hmm if I recall it correctly the Col/Dvorak kit even had issues succeeding with Nautilus on MassDrop? I could be wrong though but I remember seeing some low numbers when Zambumon shared them on Instagram.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 05 September 2017, 06:41:02
Is it too late to add Colemak/Dvorak support now that Yuri and Nautilus has led the way for molds?
Hmm if I recall it correctly the Col/Dvorak kit even had issues succeeding with Nautilus on MassDrop? I could be wrong though but I remember seeing some low numbers when Zambumon shared them on Instagram.
56 purchases out of 1899 base sets on MassDrop
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set/community_20170723015155.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 05 September 2017, 07:22:17
Post by: avid on Tue, 05 September 2017, 07:25:02
If still open for suggestions, this key would be lovely for all the scandinavian/german users. Could fit into either addon kit or regular kit.
Countries that use this key: germany, scandinavia, belgium, croatia, french, iceland, italy, portugal, spain, swiss.
So i belive it could even replay the normally included key that is used in ISO UK:
(http://i.imgur.com/8B16Xoh.png)
Post by: ctrlX on Tue, 05 September 2017, 07:32:49
+1Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EVHxaFz.png)
If still open for suggestions, this key would be lovely for all the scandinavian/german users.
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Post by: romevi on Tue, 05 September 2017, 07:52:39
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EVHxaFz.png)
If still open for suggestions, this key would be lovely for all the scandinavian/german users. Could fit into either addon kit or regular kit.
I love that key in general.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 05 September 2017, 09:53:08
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EVHxaFz.png)
If still open for suggestions, this key would be lovely for all the scandinavian/german users. Could fit into either addon kit or regular kit.
Countries that use this key: germany, scandinavia, belgium, croatia, french, iceland, italy, portugal, spain, swiss.
So i belive it could even replay the normally included key that is used in ISO UK:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8B16Xoh.png)
Hmm wouldn't only adding one key from that layout and scrapping perfect coverage for ISO UK be kinda weird? :/
Post by: avid on Tue, 05 September 2017, 10:16:32
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EVHxaFz.png)
If still open for suggestions, this key would be lovely for all the scandinavian/german users. Could fit into either addon kit or regular kit.
Countries that use this key: germany, scandinavia, belgium, croatia, french, iceland, italy, portugal, spain, swiss.
So i belive it could even replay the normally included key that is used in ISO UK:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8B16Xoh.png)
Hmm wouldn't only adding one key from that layout and scrapping perfect coverage for ISO UK be kinda weird? :/
It's a trade-off. Basically it's the brits that use the current key. Not sure if feasible with one more key.
I realize this brings even more of a headache. The sets are fantastic, so i think most would be happy as is and get this running!
Post by: janglad on Tue, 05 September 2017, 17:59:08
Post by: avid on Tue, 05 September 2017, 18:22:49
Post by: cocobrais on Tue, 05 September 2017, 18:33:50
Awesome! Is the estimated time of a few weeks something that is normal when getting a pricing quote?normally 12~16 weeks after pay the payment to GMK.
Post by: avid on Tue, 05 September 2017, 18:35:47
Awesome! Is the estimated time of a few weeks something that is normal when getting a pricing quote?normally 12~16 weeks after pay the payment to GMK.
Oh sorry i meant getting the price quota for how much each set will cost - so that vendors can start the GB!
Post by: janglad on Thu, 07 September 2017, 05:45:26
However, he is estimating the purchase price from GMK about $18 higher than I did. This would, of course, be an issue price wise. I really want to keep the base price as low as possible. There are a couple routes I can explore if the quote from GMK really comes back that high. I could remove keys from the base kit (since there really are a lot, mainly thanks to all of the accents) or we could put the current price at 250 MOQ. Honestly, I really don't want to do either of those but I also don't want to turn this into a $160 base kit.
Let's hope GMK pleasantly surprises us :/
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Thu, 07 September 2017, 06:01:42
keep it coming. i'm very sure we can strive past MOQ. given enough publicity. i'll also help you at that!
Post by: avid on Thu, 07 September 2017, 06:51:06
I'm trying to keep you guys updated as much as I can. I'm currently in talks with a Korean proxy as well. There is quite a lot of interest out of Korea, meaning that MOQ shouldn't become an issue for any of the kits.
However, he is estimating the purchase price from GMK about $18 higher than I did. This would, of course, be an issue price wise. I really want to keep the base price as low as possible. There are a couple routes I can explore if the quote from GMK really comes back that high. I could remove keys from the base kit (since there really are a lot, mainly thanks to all of the accents) or we could put the current price at 250 MOQ. Honestly, I really don't want to do either of those but I also don't want to turn this into a $160 base kit.
Let's hope GMK pleasantly surprises us :/
Current price at 250 MOQ shouldnt be a problem! All the accents are so important and im so happy we have colored ISO enters finally for a nice beige kit.
Take GMK Solarized dark: 387 base kit.
GMK oblivion: 466 (white + grey set) base kits
The 9009 is the most popular beige set ever. This set is also something that people will buy in multiplies, to have another beige set on hand. It will not have a hard time pushing past 250 MOQ. This is a set that currently sells for +$300 and gets picked up instantly, so dont doubt the popularity.
Post by: janglad on Thu, 07 September 2017, 07:34:57
I'm trying to keep you guys updated as much as I can. I'm currently in talks with a Korean proxy as well. There is quite a lot of interest out of Korea, meaning that MOQ shouldn't become an issue for any of the kits.
However, he is estimating the purchase price from GMK about $18 higher than I did. This would, of course, be an issue price wise. I really want to keep the base price as low as possible. There are a couple routes I can explore if the quote from GMK really comes back that high. I could remove keys from the base kit (since there really are a lot, mainly thanks to all of the accents) or we could put the current price at 250 MOQ. Honestly, I really don't want to do either of those but I also don't want to turn this into a $160 base kit.
Let's hope GMK pleasantly surprises us :/
Current price at 250 MOQ shouldnt be a problem! All the accents are so important and im so happy we have colored ISO enters finally for a nice beige kit.
Take GMK Solarized dark: 387 base kit.
GMK oblivion: 466 (white + grey set) base kits
The 9009 is the most popular beige set ever. This set is also something that people will buy in multiplies, to have another beige set on hand. It will not have a hard time pushing past 250 MOQ. This is a set that currently sells for +$300 and gets picked up instantly, so dont doubt the popularity.
Yeah you're right that it probably will sell well, but it's always better to set your expectations too low than to set them too high :D
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 07 September 2017, 11:08:18
I'm trying to keep you guys updated as much as I can. I'm currently in talks with a Korean proxy as well. There is quite a lot of interest out of Korea, meaning that MOQ shouldn't become an issue for any of the kits.
However, he is estimating the purchase price from GMK about $18 higher than I did. This would, of course, be an issue price wise. I really want to keep the base price as low as possible. There are a couple routes I can explore if the quote from GMK really comes back that high. I could remove keys from the base kit (since there really are a lot, mainly thanks to all of the accents) or we could put the current price at 250 MOQ. Honestly, I really don't want to do either of those but I also don't want to turn this into a $160 base kit.
Let's hope GMK pleasantly surprises us :/
Current price at 250 MOQ shouldnt be a problem! All the accents are so important and im so happy we have colored ISO enters finally for a nice beige kit.
Take GMK Solarized dark: 387 base kit.
GMK oblivion: 466 (white + grey set) base kits
The 9009 is the most popular beige set ever. This set is also something that people will buy in multiplies, to have another beige set on hand. It will not have a hard time pushing past 250 MOQ. This is a set that currently sells for +$300 and gets picked up instantly, so dont doubt the popularity.
Yeah you're right that it probably will sell well, but it's always better to set your expectations too low than to set them too high :D
Exactly.
Post by: aznreaper on Fri, 08 September 2017, 00:10:50
Post by: janglad on Sat, 09 September 2017, 07:19:37
Post by: avid on Sat, 09 September 2017, 07:24:34
Post by: cocobrais on Sat, 09 September 2017, 07:37:04
Cocobrais! :thumb:I will!! :thumb:
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 09 September 2017, 09:40:04
Cocobrais! :thumb:I will!! :thumb:
Can you ship to Thailand? I'm looking for Asia proxy right now. :))
Post by: yubbi84 on Sat, 09 September 2017, 16:32:09
Post by: avid on Sat, 09 September 2017, 16:37:48
First time buying from geekhack.. how can reserve one? Or would it be like first come first service?
If you're in EU/US, there will be stores who sell it. Mykeyboard.eu in eu and some else in the us.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 09 September 2017, 16:52:23
First time buying from geekhack.. how can reserve one? Or would it be like first come first service?
Check the generals on group buys here, the first six threads, (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=70.0) and when this particular GB becomes live be sure to check all the particular details and instructions in its GB thread. Ah, almost forget it, you are not buying from GH, you will be buying from either a vendor, or from a manufacturer trough a group buy leader.
Post by: cocobrais on Sat, 09 September 2017, 18:50:45
I am charge of only Korea. Maybe if janglad will make a china proxy for asia except Korea, you can joint to china. But if no asia proxy and janglad permit, I can ship to you. :DCocobrais! :thumb:I will!! :thumb:
Can you ship to Thailand? I'm looking for Asia proxy right now. :))
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 09 September 2017, 19:00:23
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Post by: cocobrais on Sat, 09 September 2017, 21:39:03
For Australia, do I order from the Korean proxy?as i mentioned before, if janglad permit.. :D
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Post by: beamingrobot on Sun, 10 September 2017, 04:57:36
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 10 September 2017, 12:14:38
Post by: TanHin on Sun, 10 September 2017, 12:24:57
Post by: manzel on Sun, 10 September 2017, 13:27:45
Just for clarification purposes, where should US buyers purchase this set from?https://dixiemech.com/
Post by: janglad on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:36:08
Mannnnn if only GMK would reply :P
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:44:08
[attachimg=1]
I'm SOOOO tuned in. Not changing the dial anytime soon. Bring it.
Post by: bluesclera on Mon, 11 September 2017, 11:03:58
I prefer the consistency - F5 to F8 in white.
Am i the ONLY one that dislike the 2 tone colors of all the keysets being released?
Post by: janglad on Mon, 11 September 2017, 11:50:19
so, just as exciting, maybe even more is
(Attachment Link)
I'm SOOOO tuned in. Not changing the dial anytime soon. Bring it.
Haha yeah I'm really getting into retro stuff these days :D Cool stuff to come for sure!!!
Post by: smithyithy on Mon, 11 September 2017, 11:52:57
Can we have an addon so that the function keys are all one color?
I prefer the consistency - F5 to F8 in white.
Am i the ONLY one that dislike the 2 tone colors of all the keysets being released?
I prefer to have my F-row all the same colour as my modifiers, I have GMK Coniferous waiting to go on my KBD75 and I think, especially because of the 75% layout where the top rows are parallel, the colours help break up the board a bit:
(https://i.imgur.com/RbzC7pP.jpg)
However if this isn't possible with this set, I won't mind too much as the 2 colours aren't as contrasting.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 11 September 2017, 12:12:19
Can we have an addon so that the function keys are all one color?
I prefer the consistency - F5 to F8 in white.
Am i the ONLY one that dislike the 2 tone colors of all the keysets being released?
I prefer to have my F-row all the same colour as my modifiers, I have GMK Coniferous waiting to go on my KBD75 and I think, especially because of the 75% layout where the top rows are parallel, the colours help break up the board a bit:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RbzC7pP.jpg)
However if this isn't possible with this set, I won't mind too much as the 2 colours aren't as contrasting.
+1
Though either is better than the normal mismatched look imo lol. But I agree mod color f row is best.
Post by: Cantello on Tue, 12 September 2017, 14:03:10
There is no point in offering a beige international kit, because, this color may be the one with wider international coverage, if you want to adapt your upcoming 9009 to your language just get a Norde OG Cherry set and use the keys needed to make this compatible. The Wodan's kit makes all sense in special colors that you do not have any other source for, but not for beige.
But will original Cherry beige keys match the ones from this GB exactly in color and legends? I'd hate to have the international keys stick out, even slightly.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 September 2017, 14:28:20
There is no point in offering a beige international kit, because, this color may be the one with wider international coverage, if you want to adapt your upcoming 9009 to your language just get a Norde OG Cherry set and use the keys needed to make this compatible. The Wodan's kit makes all sense in special colors that you do not have any other source for, but not for beige.
But will original Cherry beige keys match the ones from this GB exactly in color and legends? I'd hate to have the international keys stick out, even slightly.
L9 keys made by GMK match non-yellowed OG Cherry's well. Yet, you should be sure your old keys are not yellowed.
Post by: steinerlein on Wed, 13 September 2017, 13:27:40
Also, where will the GB be, once it's active?
Post by: cocobrais on Fri, 15 September 2017, 01:36:52
Post by: janglad on Fri, 15 September 2017, 10:49:28
Is there some update? ;D
Still nothing from GMK.... This is really kinda annoying since other people seem to have good communication with them right now. I'm going to submit another quote then and hope I hear back soon.........
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 15 September 2017, 10:50:34
Is there some update? ;D
Still nothing from GMK.... This is really kinda annoying since other people seem to have good communication with them right now. I'm going to submit another quote then and hope I hear back soon.........
Keep sending em emails. Dunno wtf is wrong with them.
Post by: autobot on Fri, 15 September 2017, 10:55:24
Post by: Kafka on Fri, 15 September 2017, 11:49:27
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Post by: janglad on Fri, 15 September 2017, 17:13:27
Hey I'm actually getting some gmk renders done atm. They have been getting a lot of email about renders this week and have even pushed mine to after the weekend. They have answered all my emails though. Dunno of that helps but yea.
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Yeah I didn't even request renders since I did them myself which I hoped would speed up the process. I sent them another message earlier today.
Post by: HongguChaego on Mon, 18 September 2017, 05:40:33
please do mercy for kbdfans tina-a....
Post by: ideus on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:27:11
That's 6u spacebar only for centerstemmed?
please do mercy for kbdfans tina-a....
18xx users also need a traditional off centered stem 6u space bar. Although needed, a recent trend is to offer just the centered stem version.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 19 September 2017, 10:08:31
It's higher than expected though, the 150 base set price is €20 higher than I accounted for in the beginning. We would be making quite a big loss if we sold at the price estimate I mentioned earlier :P We're looking into the best way to handle this right now. The price estimate I mentioned earlier lines up with the 500 base set quote instead of the 150 one :/ Lesson learnt for the next time of course, but I think a big reason is also the fact that the kit is quite huge thanks to all the accents and such, uses a lot of colours and had pad printing on the numpad keys.
Anyways, the launch of this GB is really close now!!
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 19 September 2017, 10:14:15
Post by: janglad on Tue, 19 September 2017, 10:16:41
I know this isn't the point but I'm fairly certain that this set, even outside of MD, may be able to quite handily reach the 500 mark.
I have a feeling it might too, but I don't think that setting the expectations too high is a good idea :P
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 19 September 2017, 10:16:53
I know this isn't the point but I'm fairly certain that this set, even outside of MD, may be able to quite handily reach the 500 mark.
+1
Post by: avid on Tue, 19 September 2017, 10:18:17
Other sets priced Very simular:
Coniferous (150) burgundy (144) blue alert (145) solarized dark (135) oblivion (135)
Post by: Petch on Tue, 19 September 2017, 10:55:53
Quote
(final set will have front printed legends on the numpad!)
By front do you mean on top, or on the front facing side?
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 19 September 2017, 11:08:38
Quote(final set will have front printed legends on the numpad!)
By front do you mean on top, or on the front facing side?
The latter.
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 19 September 2017, 11:19:22
Post by: aznreaper on Tue, 19 September 2017, 13:43:42
I think most are fine with paying a little extra. It's just 2 meal at mcdonalds, for the ultimate beige set. I mean, take led zep which recently dropped for $170.
Other sets priced Very simular:
Coniferous (150) burgundy (144) blue alert (145) solarized dark (135) oblivion (135)
Blue alert was 125 at GB phase
Post by: avid on Tue, 19 September 2017, 15:17:57
I think most are fine with paying a little extra. It's just 2 meal at mcdonalds, for the ultimate beige set. I mean, take led zep which recently dropped for $170.
Other sets priced Very simular:
Coniferous (150) burgundy (144) blue alert (145) solarized dark (135) oblivion (135)
Blue alert was 125 at GB phase
Took the price from here:
https://imgur.com/a/ZpvQX
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Tue, 19 September 2017, 15:22:53
It's higher than expected though, the 150 base set price is €20 higher than I accounted for in the beginning.
That's still a completely acceptable price considering the kit you've put together.
Post by: mr scooty on Tue, 19 September 2017, 16:59:05
Post by: cocobrais on Tue, 19 September 2017, 17:52:20
We have to consider many various situation. MOQ and quotations, custom tex depends on country or states, exchange rate and so on. So it is so difficult to decide the price.I think most are fine with paying a little extra. It's just 2 meal at mcdonalds, for the ultimate beige set. I mean, take led zep which recently dropped for $170.
Other sets priced Very simular:
Coniferous (150) burgundy (144) blue alert (145) solarized dark (135) oblivion (135)
Blue alert was 125 at GB phase
Took the price from here:
https://imgur.com/a/ZpvQX
Post by: Zobeid Zuma on Tue, 19 September 2017, 18:45:10
The colors, they are so classic and so classy. . .
As a Mac and Linux user, I have to laugh at the whole Super/Code/Diamond issue. Why doesn't everyone just use Command (or Cmd) and the ⌘ symbol as Apple have done since the 1980s? Or is Apple using it enough to turn people away, somehow? I'm pretty sure it's not any kind of trademark. (Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looped_square (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looped_square) )
Not a religious issue for me, though. Super or Code or ❖ or whatever is fine, as long as it's not Microsoft.
Am I to understand this set will come with 2.25x and 2.75x space bars? Because that would be fantastic for me and my Banana Split 60.
I don't see any 1.25x Fn keys? (My layout wants two of those!) Not a deal breaker, though. . . I can always find some alternative for those.
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 20 September 2017, 03:13:32
I'm a bit of a noob here, and this is the first GB that I've been seriously lured and tempted by. Was there some kind of Interest Check form to submit? Did I miss that part?Interest checks are run to gauge potential buyers to a product. Eventually this will evolve into a group buy, where the runner (either an individual or a business company) collects the money from the buyers and pays the manufacturer to have the wares produced. GMK has a lead time of around sixteen weeks, so you'll have to wait months before actually getting the goods you've paid for.
Why doesn't everyone just use Command (or Cmd) and the ⌘ symbol?Until recently, GMK was reluctant to make new molds, therefore every keyset made up to like early 2016, either had a windows logo or a text GUI key.
Post by: midnight2903 on Wed, 20 September 2017, 21:50:43
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 20 September 2017, 22:11:47
Soooo, is the group buy already over? Or is it not open yet?
Still in IC phase.
Post by: Cocopah on Thu, 21 September 2017, 01:40:45
Please add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
Probably not, I only wanted it for my Ducky Pocket. Not alot of sets have the 00 key lol.
Post by: Auxo on Thu, 21 September 2017, 01:42:42
Please add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
Probably not, I only wanted it for my Ducky Pocket. Not alot of sets have the 00 key lol.
Not to mention, its an aesthetically pleasing key too
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 02:34:18
Post by: cocobrais on Thu, 21 September 2017, 03:29:32
I am not use 00 key but my wife work in bank and she need this key... so I have to add this key to my GB default. :pPlease add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
Probably not, I only wanted it for my Ducky Pocket. Not alot of sets have the 00 key lol.
Post by: bluesclera on Thu, 21 September 2017, 03:37:58
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 03:40:11
damn dont you people sleep?
How dare you people live outside the Americas? :))
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 03:41:00
I am not use 00 key but my wife work in bank and she need this key... so I have to add this key to my GB default. :pPlease add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
Probably not, I only wanted it for my Ducky Pocket. Not alot of sets have the 00 key lol.
What's the difference between a 0 and a 00 key in the same profile?
Add a numpad five with bars¡!
Post by: cocobrais on Thu, 21 September 2017, 03:44:30
Korea is just 17:43. EU maybe morning...damn dont you people sleep?
How dare you people live outside the Americas? :))
Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 September 2017, 07:54:06
I am not use 00 key but my wife work in bank and she need this key... so I have to add this key to my GB default. :pPlease add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
Probably not, I only wanted it for my Ducky Pocket. Not alot of sets have the 00 key lol.
What's the difference between a 0 and a 00 key in the same profile?
Add a numpad five with bars¡!
It's used for prices so you can easily input $15.00 with 5 inputs vs 6.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 07:57:12
I am not use 00 key but my wife work in bank and she need this key... so I have to add this key to my GB default. :pPlease add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
Probably not, I only wanted it for my Ducky Pocket. Not alot of sets have the 00 key lol.
What's the difference between a 0 and a 00 key in the same profile?
Add a numpad five with bars¡!One has 1 zero, the other has 2 zeros.
It's used for prices so you can easily input $15.00 with 5 inputs vs 6.
That's ****ing stupid.
Post by: midnight2903 on Thu, 21 September 2017, 07:59:06
Soooo, is the group buy already over? Or is it not open yet?
Still in IC phase.
Nice, this would go nicely with my silver board!
Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 September 2017, 08:15:21
I am not use 00 key but my wife work in bank and she need this key... so I have to add this key to my GB default. :pPlease add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
Probably not, I only wanted it for my Ducky Pocket. Not alot of sets have the 00 key lol.
What's the difference between a 0 and a 00 key in the same profile?
Add a numpad five with bars¡!One has 1 zero, the other has 2 zeros.
It's used for prices so you can easily input $15.00 with 5 inputs vs 6.
That's ****ing stupid.
Mature.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 08:29:45
I am not use 00 key but my wife work in bank and she need this key... so I have to add this key to my GB default. :pPlease add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
Probably not, I only wanted it for my Ducky Pocket. Not alot of sets have the 00 key lol.
What's the difference between a 0 and a 00 key in the same profile?
Add a numpad five with bars¡!One has 1 zero, the other has 2 zeros.
It's used for prices so you can easily input $15.00 with 5 inputs vs 6.
That's ****ing stupid.
Mature.
It's ****ing stupid, again.
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 21 September 2017, 08:44:13
Post by: lee jeong woo on Thu, 21 September 2017, 09:24:06
It may be necessary for someone else
Post by: mech0nly on Thu, 21 September 2017, 09:53:52
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Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 10:17:49
Efficiency is never stupid, especially when it comes to people who input numbers like that the whole time - it's literally the purpose of keyboards.
If your software can't even auto format numbers, well, no keyboard will ever be good enough for you. You fix one problem, but many more remain unfixable, including the obsolete user.
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 21 September 2017, 10:30:22
Efficiency is never stupid, especially when it comes to people who input numbers like that the whole time - it's literally the purpose of keyboards.
If your software can't even auto format numbers, well, no keyboard will ever be good enough for you. You fix one problem, but many more remain unfixable, including the obsolete user.
Why does it bother you? There are keys in every GB that I don't use. I just make sure that the ones that I do need are there. Some people need this for 10 Key input, shouldn't that be enough?
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 21 September 2017, 10:33:22
Post by: Cocopah on Thu, 21 September 2017, 11:13:44
Efficiency is never stupid, especially when it comes to people who input numbers like that the whole time - it's literally the purpose of keyboards.
If your software can't even auto format numbers, well, no keyboard will ever be good enough for you. You fix one problem, but many more remain unfixable, including the obsolete user.
Lol why are you so triggered? I don't use the key either, but it would be nice to use this set on my Ducky Pocket. It would enable another keypad layout with only 1 key. Out of the 10+ keysets I have, only 1 of them have the 00 key. It wouldn't be my choice for a keypad layout, but what's the point in arguing about it?
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 12:03:15
Efficiency is never stupid, especially when it comes to people who input numbers like that the whole time - it's literally the purpose of keyboards.
If your software can't even auto format numbers, well, no keyboard will ever be good enough for you. You fix one problem, but many more remain unfixable, including the obsolete user.
Lol why are you so triggered? I don't use the key either, but it would be nice to use this set on my Ducky Pocket. It would enable another keypad layout with only 1 key. Out of the 10+ keysets I have, only 1 of them have the 00 key. It wouldn't be my choice for a keypad layout, but what's the point in arguing about it?
Bill Gates, when he asked for it to IBM, wasn't allowed to have on the keyboard a reboot/ logon key (equivalent to ctrl alt canc), and you're telling me that a 00 key, needed to add 00 after a comma is necessary??
Numpad five with bars is necessary, not the 00.
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 21 September 2017, 12:11:01
Bill Gates, when he asked for it to IBM, wasn't allowed to have on the keyboard a reboot/ logon key (equivalent to ctrl alt canc), and you're telling me that a 00 key, needed to add 00 after a comma is necessary??
Numpad five with bars is necessary, not the 00.
If you need homing of any kind you're either 5 years old and new to computers or don't care/don't have the time to learn how to type properly.
This is what you sound like when you're so vehemently attacking the use of the 00 key. This argument, not unlike your comment about "the user", is obsolete.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 12:54:44
Bill Gates, when he asked for it to IBM, wasn't allowed to have on the keyboard a reboot/ logon key (equivalent to ctrl alt canc), and you're telling me that a 00 key, needed to add 00 after a comma is necessary??
Numpad five with bars is necessary, not the 00.
If you need homing of any kind you're either 5 years old and new to computers or don't care/don't have the time to learn how to type properly.
This is what you sound like when you're so vehemently attacking the use of the 00 key. This argument, not unlike your comment about "the user", is obsolete.
How insane are you to say that homing bars / scoops are not necessary when you touch type? This gets the trophy for the most pompous bull**** phrase of the year.
Post by: funkybeat7 on Thu, 21 September 2017, 13:03:51
The point is you sound like a douchenozzle and that makes me want to disregard any points you bring up because you can't bring it to the table and treat other people, who are different from you and have different desires, with a modicum of respect. I feel I'm not the only one here with that view point. I'd rather the discussion be purely about the keys and not about disrespecting someone who may want a key because you view them as obsolete.Bill Gates, when he asked for it to IBM, wasn't allowed to have on the keyboard a reboot/ logon key (equivalent to ctrl alt canc), and you're telling me that a 00 key, needed to add 00 after a comma is necessary??
Numpad five with bars is necessary, not the 00.
If you need homing of any kind you're either 5 years old and new to computers or don't care/don't have the time to learn how to type properly.
This is what you sound like when you're so vehemently attacking the use of the 00 key. This argument, not unlike your comment about "the user", is obsolete.
How insane are you to say that homing bars / scoops are not necessary when you touch type? This gets the trophy for the most pompous bull**** phrase of the year.
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Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 14:45:57
The point is you sound like a douchenozzle and that makes me want to disregard any points you bring up because you can't bring it to the table and treat other people, who are different from you and have different desires, with a modicum of respect. I feel I'm not the only one here with that view point. I'd rather the discussion be purely about the keys and not about disrespecting someone who may want a key because you view them as obsolete.Bill Gates, when he asked for it to IBM, wasn't allowed to have on the keyboard a reboot/ logon key (equivalent to ctrl alt canc), and you're telling me that a 00 key, needed to add 00 after a comma is necessary??
Numpad five with bars is necessary, not the 00.
If you need homing of any kind you're either 5 years old and new to computers or don't care/don't have the time to learn how to type properly.
This is what you sound like when you're so vehemently attacking the use of the 00 key. This argument, not unlike your comment about "the user", is obsolete.
How insane are you to say that homing bars / scoops are not necessary when you touch type? This gets the trophy for the most pompous bull**** phrase of the year.
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LOL, you're welcome to ignore me
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 21 September 2017, 14:57:01
so like
who cares
it's all a subjective aesthetics game anyway
Post by: funkybeat7 on Thu, 21 September 2017, 15:18:52
The point is you sound like a douchenozzle and that makes me want to disregard any points you bring up because you can't bring it to the table and treat other people, who are different from you and have different desires, with a modicum of respect. I feel I'm not the only one here with that view point. I'd rather the discussion be purely about the keys and not about disrespecting someone who may want a key because you view them as obsolete.Bill Gates, when he asked for it to IBM, wasn't allowed to have on the keyboard a reboot/ logon key (equivalent to ctrl alt canc), and you're telling me that a 00 key, needed to add 00 after a comma is necessary??
Numpad five with bars is necessary, not the 00.
If you need homing of any kind you're either 5 years old and new to computers or don't care/don't have the time to learn how to type properly.
This is what you sound like when you're so vehemently attacking the use of the 00 key. This argument, not unlike your comment about "the user", is obsolete.
How insane are you to say that homing bars / scoops are not necessary when you touch type? This gets the trophy for the most pompous bull**** phrase of the year.
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LOL, you're welcome to ignore me
It's hard to ignore when every third post on more than half this page is you saying something is "****ing stupid." I'm going to do my best to though.
Post by: poolside on Thu, 21 September 2017, 15:36:52
Please add a 00 Key!
Are there many people who actually use that though? I haven't seen it around much at all :/
The 00 is helpful when trying to outfit a numpad with as much 1u caps as possible.
Post by: sth on Thu, 21 September 2017, 16:09:08
i ask for windowed stepped caps lock in every GB, and nobody uses that **** but me
so like
who cares
it's all a subjective aesthetics game anyway
it's in the layout for GMK BLANK
also i use 00 on my numpad all the time. it's nice. saves me a little time. **** me, right?
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 21 September 2017, 16:52:08
The point is you sound like a douchenozzle and that makes me want to disregard any points you bring up because you can't bring it to the table and treat other people, who are different from you and have different desires, with a modicum of respect. I feel I'm not the only one here with that view point. I'd rather the discussion be purely about the keys and not about disrespecting someone who may want a key because you view them as obsolete.Bill Gates, when he asked for it to IBM, wasn't allowed to have on the keyboard a reboot/ logon key (equivalent to ctrl alt canc), and you're telling me that a 00 key, needed to add 00 after a comma is necessary??
Numpad five with bars is necessary, not the 00.
If you need homing of any kind you're either 5 years old and new to computers or don't care/don't have the time to learn how to type properly.
This is what you sound like when you're so vehemently attacking the use of the 00 key. This argument, not unlike your comment about "the user", is obsolete.
How insane are you to say that homing bars / scoops are not necessary when you touch type? This gets the trophy for the most pompous bull**** phrase of the year.
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LOL, you're welcome to ignore me
I wish we could tie you and TP4 to the side of a North Korean nuke and see how far you both can fly.
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 21 September 2017, 16:55:41
At any rate, jangled got the quote didn't he? Why is this still in IC?
Post by: Arhipio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 17:15:19
Picture of the pack (the final version will have icon mods)
(https://i.imgur.com/mCPPAo5.png)
GMK Nautilus 1.5u backspace
(https://i.imgur.com/SlMxnKE.png)
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 September 2017, 17:40:22
The point is you sound like a douchenozzle and that makes me want to disregard any points you bring up because you can't bring it to the table and treat other people, who are different from you and have different desires, with a modicum of respect. I feel I'm not the only one here with that view point. I'd rather the discussion be purely about the keys and not about disrespecting someone who may want a key because you view them as obsolete.Bill Gates, when he asked for it to IBM, wasn't allowed to have on the keyboard a reboot/ logon key (equivalent to ctrl alt canc), and you're telling me that a 00 key, needed to add 00 after a comma is necessary??
Numpad five with bars is necessary, not the 00.
If you need homing of any kind you're either 5 years old and new to computers or don't care/don't have the time to learn how to type properly.
This is what you sound like when you're so vehemently attacking the use of the 00 key. This argument, not unlike your comment about "the user", is obsolete.
How insane are you to say that homing bars / scoops are not necessary when you touch type? This gets the trophy for the most pompous bull**** phrase of the year.
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LOL, you're welcome to ignore me
I wish we could tie you and TP4 to the side of a North Korean nuke and see how far you both can fly.
Do you smoke gmk in the morning?
Post by: Oatburner on Thu, 21 September 2017, 17:54:23
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Thu, 21 September 2017, 21:14:56
so, any estimates? the set seems perfect to me.
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Thu, 21 September 2017, 22:41:50
oi guys, chill.
so, any estimates? the set seems perfect to me.
I'm with this guy and I'm ready to throw money at this thing. Let's do this.
Post by: Randalljai on Thu, 21 September 2017, 23:30:17
Post by: janglad on Fri, 22 September 2017, 08:22:57
Anyway, I have just discussed EU pricing and unless something huge comes up this will be it:
(https://i.imgur.com/mTRKLW7.png)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 22 September 2017, 08:33:25
unless something huge comes up
I'll try not to intervene then.
Post by: kustom3 on Fri, 22 September 2017, 08:33:52
Post by: avid on Fri, 22 September 2017, 08:39:20
God damn guys, I never thought humans could have such a heated discussion about a damn numpad key :P
Anyway, I have just discussed EU pricing and unless something huge comes up this will be it:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mTRKLW7.png)
PERFECT! Lets GO!
Post by: janglad on Fri, 22 September 2017, 08:39:45
Assuming that includes VAT, even with the shipping on top of it that seems quite fair.
It does include VAT, all 21% of it :P
And yeah I would say soo too :)
Post by: janglad on Fri, 22 September 2017, 08:42:13
Having vendors in the US, Europe, Korea, Taiwan and China makes a small small part of me think we can reach that 500 MOQ mark and bring pricing down even further :)
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 22 September 2017, 09:45:49
It does include VAT, all 21% of itI guess Germany's VAT is applied rather than Belgium's. So it should be 19%, unless I'm missing something.
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 22 September 2017, 10:13:06
Post by: janglad on Fri, 22 September 2017, 10:58:33
Nope, GMK sells without VAT to Mykeyboard. David then pays 21% Belgian VAT.It does include VAT, all 21% of itI guess Germany's VAT is applied rather than Belgium's. So it should be 19%, unless I'm missing something.
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Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 22 September 2017, 11:38:08
Post by: smithyithy on Fri, 22 September 2017, 13:49:28
Post by: avid on Fri, 22 September 2017, 14:00:26
Also, I'm still waiting on a reply from GMK about the customs label before we can dig into the US pricing. I don't know if I have mentioned this before, but I'm also setting up a Chinese and a Taiwanese proxy. I was able to set up a deal with GMK about shipping to more vendors than regular :)
Having vendors in the US, Europe, Korea, Taiwan and China makes a small small part of me think we can reach that 500 MOQ mark and bring pricing down even further :)
VAT is consumer only, so just retract it from the price. Depending on where the US seller is, he then just have to add sales tax if he's in a state that requires it.
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 22 September 2017, 18:20:18
Also, I'm still waiting on a reply from GMK about the customs label before we can dig into the US pricing. I don't know if I have mentioned this before, but I'm also setting up a Chinese and a Taiwanese proxy. I was able to set up a deal with GMK about shipping to more vendors than regular :)
Having vendors in the US, Europe, Korea, Taiwan and China makes a small small part of me think we can reach that 500 MOQ mark and bring pricing down even further :)
VAT is consumer only, so just retract it from the price. Depending on where the US seller is, he then just have to add sales tax if he's in a state that requires it.
There is GMK shipping which I hear is not cheap.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sat, 23 September 2017, 23:41:48
God damn guys, I never thought humans could have such a heated discussion about a damn numpad key :P
Anyway, I have just discussed EU pricing and unless something huge comes up this will be it:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mTRKLW7.png)
That's human fer ya :))
the euro pricing seems okay for me.. it's a borderline tho.
how about US Pricing?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 September 2017, 14:31:44
God damn guys, I never thought humans could have such a heated discussion about a damn numpad key :P
Anyway, I have just discussed EU pricing and unless something huge comes up this will be it:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mTRKLW7.png)
you underestimate the internet
also that's not a terrible price
Post by: janglad on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:25:58
God damn guys, I never thought humans could have such a heated discussion about a damn numpad key :P
Anyway, I have just discussed EU pricing and unless something huge comes up this will be it:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mTRKLW7.png)
That's human fer ya :))
the euro pricing seems okay for me.. it's a borderline tho.
how about US Pricing?
US pricing is 99% final. I will probably release it tonight or tomorrow. I should have the Korean pricing tomorrow too! This is getting super close now guys!!!! #hype
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:33:39
US pricing is 99% final. I will probably release it tonight or tomorrow. I should have the Korean pricing tomorrow too! This is getting super close now guys!!!! #hype
By releasing "it" tonight or tomorrow I assume you mean the final US pricing correct? That's what I assume you mean but I'm wishfully thinking you might potentially mean the actual buy.
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 25 September 2017, 13:14:44
US pricing is 99% final. I will probably release it tonight or tomorrow. I should have the Korean pricing tomorrow too! This is getting super close now guys!!!! #hype
By releasing "it" tonight or tomorrow I assume you mean the final US pricing correct? That's what I assume you mean but I'm wishfully thinking you might potentially mean the actual buy.
Please let it be
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 25 September 2017, 14:06:30
US pricing is 99% final. I will probably release it tonight or tomorrow. I should have the Korean pricing tomorrow too! This is getting super close now guys!!!! #hype
By releasing "it" tonight or tomorrow I assume you mean the final US pricing correct? That's what I assume you mean but I'm wishfully thinking you might potentially mean the actual buy.
I hope we can participate in the GB soon!
I'm down for this for sure.
Post by: janglad on Mon, 25 September 2017, 14:58:53
US pricing is 99% final. I will probably release it tonight or tomorrow. I should have the Korean pricing tomorrow too! This is getting super close now guys!!!! #hype
By releasing "it" tonight or tomorrow I assume you mean the final US pricing correct? That's what I assume you mean but I'm wishfully thinking you might potentially mean the actual buy.
I do! EU and US are pretty much 100% ready to launch now, Korea should be tomorrow. The Taiwan/China proxy isn't finalised yet though. Like I said, GB should be really really close :) :) :) :)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 25 September 2017, 15:18:42
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 September 2017, 15:21:39
Post by: xondat on Mon, 25 September 2017, 15:24:08
I skipped a few pages. Do you mind me asking what was the final decision for R0 and R5 rows?
Presume it won't happen as it wasn't mentioned again.
Post by: cocobrais on Mon, 25 September 2017, 20:30:33
Korea is ready! Korea price was set already! Really close to starting.US pricing is 99% final. I will probably release it tonight or tomorrow. I should have the Korean pricing tomorrow too! This is getting super close now guys!!!! #hype
By releasing "it" tonight or tomorrow I assume you mean the final US pricing correct? That's what I assume you mean but I'm wishfully thinking you might potentially mean the actual buy.
I do! EU and US are pretty much 100% ready to launch now, Korea should be tomorrow. The Taiwan/China proxy isn't finalised yet though. Like I said, GB should be really really close :) :) :) :)
Post by: avid on Mon, 25 September 2017, 20:37:55
Korea is ready! Korea price was set already! Really close to starting.US pricing is 99% final. I will probably release it tonight or tomorrow. I should have the Korean pricing tomorrow too! This is getting super close now guys!!!! #hype
By releasing "it" tonight or tomorrow I assume you mean the final US pricing correct? That's what I assume you mean but I'm wishfully thinking you might potentially mean the actual buy.
I do! EU and US are pretty much 100% ready to launch now, Korea should be tomorrow. The Taiwan/China proxy isn't finalised yet though. Like I said, GB should be really really close :) :) :) :)
:thumb: Can't wait for this!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 25 September 2017, 21:23:06
Post by: darkslay3r on Tue, 26 September 2017, 04:54:44
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 26 September 2017, 05:25:25
Post by: MrTq on Tue, 26 September 2017, 09:50:33
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Post by: sth on Tue, 26 September 2017, 16:48:52
awshiet
so hey bud what's up with your signature there eh?
Post by: janglad on Wed, 27 September 2017, 05:01:06
(https://i.imgur.com/HoxHN8E.png)
I'm pretty pleased with it, considering that this base set is quite a bit more expensive to make and one USD is .84 EUR now instead of the +.96 it was a couple of months ago (this turns a $135 base set price into a $154 one!!).
I will make a post on Reddit in a bit since I have to go now. Now it's only the TW/CH pricing and we're all set to go!!!
Post by: janglad on Wed, 27 September 2017, 05:01:41
Waiting for 1.5u Code/Super making a comeback
Did I miss something? I still included 2 1.5u Super keys in the base kit :P Or is that what you meant?
Post by: janglad on Wed, 27 September 2017, 05:03:02
Post by: jebbra on Wed, 27 September 2017, 05:04:41
Waiting for 1.5u Code/Super making a comeback
Did I miss something? I still included 2 1.5u Super keys in the base kit :P Or is that what you meant?
WTF my mind is playing tricks with me! I'm quite sure this set have them removed. Or am I dreaming...?
Post by: avid on Wed, 27 September 2017, 05:10:20
Actually surprised by the great price!
Will GB be up this week?
Post by: janglad on Wed, 27 September 2017, 05:10:54
Waiting for 1.5u Code/Super making a comeback
Did I miss something? I still included 2 1.5u Super keys in the base kit :P Or is that what you meant?
WTF my mind is playing tricks with me! I'm quite sure this set have them removed. Or am I dreaming...?
I don't think I ever mentioned or even considered removing them :rolleyes:
Post by: janglad on Wed, 27 September 2017, 05:13:49
Great news, let's go! :thumb:
Actually surprised by the great price!
Will GB be up this week?
Yeah either that or next week! Depends on when I get a reply about TW/CH pricing (the main reason they didn't give it to me yet is because of the unknown cost shipping from GMK to them. I asked GMK about this days but they have yet to reply. If anyone here has experience with shipping costs from GMK to Taiwan please hit me up :) :) :) :) :) :) ).
Either way, I'm glad you like the pricing!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 27 September 2017, 05:39:28
Post by: cocobrais on Wed, 27 September 2017, 05:44:29
I don:t know exactly but similar with Korea. Maybe about 3.5euro/base set, about 1~1.25euro/small kitGreat news, let's go! :thumb:
Actually surprised by the great price!
Will GB be up this week?
Yeah either that or next week! Depends on when I get a reply about TW/CH pricing (the main reason they didn't give it to me yet is because of the unknown cost shipping from GMK to them. I asked GMK about this days but they have yet to reply. If anyone here has experience with shipping costs from GMK to Taiwan please hit me up :) :) :) :) :) :) ).
Either way, I'm glad you like the pricing!
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 27 September 2017, 06:51:33
Post by: smithyithy on Wed, 27 September 2017, 08:25:43
How do I go about buying through the Korean proxy?
I imagine links to the proxies stores will be posted in the main thread post when the GB goes live :thumb:
Post by: Kafka on Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:26:38
How do I go about buying through the Korean proxy?Probably check on the kbdlab thread
Post by: cocobrais on Wed, 27 September 2017, 22:11:45
How do I go about buying through the Korean proxy?If you want to join this GB in Korea, please let me know. I will calculate cost for you.
Post by: superdoedoe on Thu, 28 September 2017, 00:22:24
Post by: cocobrais on Thu, 28 September 2017, 02:00:16
Would it be better for Australians to buy from the Korean proxy or the American Proxy? Muricas shipping hurts >.<maybe singapore proxy will be in charge for AU and NZ. And regarding price, you have to consider as below...
In case of Korea, we use the bank. So no additional fee. But if you will join to Korea, maybe you use the paypal and additionally paypal fee will be charged. So you have to consider these cases.
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 28 September 2017, 09:28:45
Jan has the latest pricing for the SEA/China/TW/AUS/NZ regions, he'll probably update soon :)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 28 September 2017, 11:54:40
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 28 September 2017, 12:35:11
I can handle the Chicago peeps. Just the Chicago peeps.
If I fly down to Chicago will you hand my set to me personally in an attire of my choice?
Post by: Arhipio on Thu, 28 September 2017, 12:53:51
(https://i.imgur.com/NQt5PFl.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 28 September 2017, 12:57:27
Hey everyone I just wanted to drop something if ya'll are interested. TheVan Keyboards will be hosting a 40% add on kit for GMK 9009. We have already contacted GMK and have pricing and renders available. We will be selling the kits for $40. This kit supports the MiniVan, Planck, JD40 and M0110. Please fill out the google form if you are interested. Thank you :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQt5PFl.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Could you please share the caps' sizes? The non 1u only, of course.
Post by: mr scooty on Thu, 28 September 2017, 13:18:42
Hey everyone I just wanted to drop something if ya'll are interested. TheVan Keyboards will be hosting a 40% add on kit for GMK 9009. We have already contacted GMK and have pricing and renders available. We will be selling the kits for $40. This kit supports the MiniVan, Planck, JD40 and M0110. Please fill out the google form if you are interested. Thank you :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQt5PFl.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Yes puhleeze
Post by: Arhipio on Thu, 28 September 2017, 13:23:50
Hey everyone I just wanted to drop something if ya'll are interested. TheVan Keyboards will be hosting a 40% add on kit for GMK 9009. We have already contacted GMK and have pricing and renders available. We will be selling the kits for $40. This kit supports the MiniVan, Planck, JD40 and M0110. Please fill out the google form if you are interested. Thank you :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQt5PFl.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Could you please share the caps' sizes? The non 1u only, of course.
Sure
R1: 1.5u backspace
R2: 1.75u backspace
R3: 1.75u enter keys, 1.5u fn keys
R4: 1.75u lock key
R4: 2.25u space, 2u convex space keys
Post by: Arhipio on Thu, 28 September 2017, 13:24:37
Hey everyone I just wanted to drop something if ya'll are interested. TheVan Keyboards will be hosting a 40% add on kit for GMK 9009. We have already contacted GMK and have pricing and renders available. We will be selling the kits for $40. This kit supports the MiniVan, Planck, JD40 and M0110. Please fill out the google form if you are interested. Thank you :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQt5PFl.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Yes puhleeze
Such a lovely set needs to see it's way on all boards :)
Post by: Arhipio on Thu, 28 September 2017, 13:32:50
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91781.0;topicseen (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91781.0;topicseen)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 28 September 2017, 21:10:17
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 04:04:22
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PURSE CAPS LOCK?!It's in the add-on kit.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 29 September 2017, 06:35:13
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PURSE CAPS LOCK?!It's in the add-on kit.
Oh, okay.
Phew!
Post by: midnight2903 on Fri, 29 September 2017, 08:28:30
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PURSE CAPS LOCK?!
PURSE CAPS LOCK NOT IN BASE?!?!
GG NOT BUYING.
Who am I kidding, I don't even use CapsLock.
Post by: Darkblade48 on Fri, 29 September 2017, 09:45:34
maybe singapore proxy will be in charge for AU and NZ. And regarding price, you have to consider as below...Whoa, whoa. There's going to be a Singapore proxy?
In case of Korea, we use the bank. So no additional fee. But if you will join to Korea, maybe you use the paypal and additionally paypal fee will be charged. So you have to consider these cases.
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 29 September 2017, 10:44:21
maybe singapore proxy will be in charge for AU and NZ. And regarding price, you have to consider as below...Whoa, whoa. There's going to be a Singapore proxy?
In case of Korea, we use the bank. So no additional fee. But if you will join to Korea, maybe you use the paypal and additionally paypal fee will be charged. So you have to consider these cases.
Yes, same as Maxkeys Calm Depths
Post by: Arhipio on Fri, 29 September 2017, 13:10:49
Post by: janglad on Sat, 30 September 2017, 08:39:14
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/73ex48/gmk_9009_release_date_and_pricing_reveal/
Post by: romevi on Sat, 30 September 2017, 10:14:42
Post by: Zobeid Zuma on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:00:40
Sadly, I don't think full fledged 40% support is a viable option with GMK sets right now. However, I will add some 2.25u and 2.75u blanks to the spacebar kit for split space users :)
Are those merely blank shift keys, or will they be convex spacebars?
Post by: darkslay3r on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:11:57
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:30:24
i heard about singapore proxy, is that true ?
According to the Reddit post there is one set up, yes.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sat, 30 September 2017, 15:42:42
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Post by: Jedi on Sat, 30 September 2017, 17:16:03
Post by: ioioioio on Sat, 30 September 2017, 18:17:34
Get Hyped! https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20171001T19&p0=48&msg=GMK+9009+GROUP+BUY&font=sanserif (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20171001T19&p0=48&msg=GMK+9009+GROUP+BUY&font=sanserif)
it's already 1st Oct now in East Borneo tho hahahahah
Post by: smithyithy on Sat, 30 September 2017, 19:26:52
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGcdZzgvEnrruWRy/source.gif)
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 30 September 2017, 20:40:35
Hey everyone I just wanted to drop something if ya'll are interested. TheVan Keyboards will be hosting a 40% add on kit for GMK 9009. We have already contacted GMK and have pricing and renders available. We will be selling the kits for $40. This kit supports the MiniVan, Planck, JD40 and M0110. Please fill out the google form if you are interested. Thank you :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQt5PFl.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
WHOA COOL! Definitely in!
My 2cents:
1. Fn in accents is too much when you already have esc, enter, and spacebar.
2. I think lower raise as accent is a better option rather than plain, since there aren't R3 enter accent either (planck will only get esc and spacebar, provided he/she use R2 esc and MIT). So lower raise accent is more universal.
3. R2 1u Tab and this will be perfect! (Please)
Post by: Arhipio on Sat, 30 September 2017, 20:54:12
Hey everyone I just wanted to drop something if ya'll are interested. TheVan Keyboards will be hosting a 40% add on kit for GMK 9009. We have already contacted GMK and have pricing and renders available. We will be selling the kits for $40. This kit supports the MiniVan, Planck, JD40 and M0110. Please fill out the google form if you are interested. Thank you :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQt5PFl.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
WHOA COOL! Definitely in!
My 2cents:
1. Fn in accents is too much when you already have esc, enter, and spacebar.
2. I think lower raise as accent is a better option rather than plain, since there aren't R3 enter accent either (planck will only get esc and spacebar, provided he/she use R2 esc and MIT). So lower raise accent is more universal.
3. R2 1u Tab and this will be perfect! (Please)
1. For a minivan the Fn key is in the same spot where generally an enter key is. Reason for that choice.
2. Potentially although we don't want to change too many keys, we also think having the esc and accented space is plenty.
3. Then we would have to make an R3 Esc, the R2 Esc is shared by the jd40, minivan, core, and the planck in some layouts.
Hope this clarifies our design choices. :D
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 30 September 2017, 21:12:59
Hey everyone I just wanted to drop something if ya'll are interested. TheVan Keyboards will be hosting a 40% add on kit for GMK 9009. We have already contacted GMK and have pricing and renders available. We will be selling the kits for $40. This kit supports the MiniVan, Planck, JD40 and M0110. Please fill out the google form if you are interested. Thank you :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQt5PFl.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
WHOA COOL! Definitely in!
My 2cents:
1. Fn in accents is too much when you already have esc, enter, and spacebar.
2. I think lower raise as accent is a better option rather than plain, since there aren't R3 enter accent either (planck will only get esc and spacebar, provided he/she use R2 esc and MIT). So lower raise accent is more universal.
3. R2 1u Tab and this will be perfect! (Please)
1. For a minivan the Fn key is in the same spot where generally an enter key is. Reason for that choice.
2. Potentially although we don't want to change too many keys, we also think having the esc and accented space is plenty.
3. Then we would have to make an R3 Esc, the R2 Esc is shared by the jd40, minivan, core, and the planck in some layouts.
Hope this clarifies our design choices.
Ah it all make sense now! Thank you for clarifying! I'm still in the "accent low-raise boat" tho. Maybe scrap the beige ones alltogether and provide only 1 option like pink lower green raise and thats it, having color option is much better tho but I understand the price issue.
Post by: Arhipio on Sat, 30 September 2017, 21:23:12
Hey everyone I just wanted to drop something if ya'll are interested. TheVan Keyboards will be hosting a 40% add on kit for GMK 9009. We have already contacted GMK and have pricing and renders available. We will be selling the kits for $40. This kit supports the MiniVan, Planck, JD40 and M0110. Please fill out the google form if you are interested. Thank you :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQt5PFl.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQaA6GDTfXyMJgVSXWfE6eAU1fJ1v3AleZcecpJgGuU4IQUw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
WHOA COOL! Definitely in!
My 2cents:
1. Fn in accents is too much when you already have esc, enter, and spacebar.
2. I think lower raise as accent is a better option rather than plain, since there aren't R3 enter accent either (planck will only get esc and spacebar, provided he/she use R2 esc and MIT). So lower raise accent is more universal.
3. R2 1u Tab and this will be perfect! (Please)
1. For a minivan the Fn key is in the same spot where generally an enter key is. Reason for that choice.
2. Potentially although we don't want to change too many keys, we also think having the esc and accented space is plenty.
3. Then we would have to make an R3 Esc, the R2 Esc is shared by the jd40, minivan, core, and the planck in some layouts.
Hope this clarifies our design choices.
Ah it all make sense now! Thank you for clarifying! I'm still in the "accent low-raise boat" tho. Maybe scrap the beige ones alltogether and provide only 1 option like pink lower green raise and thats it, having color option is much better tho but I understand the price issue.
We could potentially add 2 colored blanks
Quick KLE whip up
(https://i.imgur.com/OMGeLfz.png)
Post by: cocobrais on Sat, 30 September 2017, 21:31:17
Post by: beamingrobot on Sun, 01 October 2017, 11:10:21
Post by: skidude9678 on Sun, 01 October 2017, 12:01:49
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 01 October 2017, 12:04:29
Post by: skidude9678 on Sun, 01 October 2017, 12:10:21
Post by: Troif on Sun, 01 October 2017, 12:13:44
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Post by: captainish on Sun, 01 October 2017, 12:23:59
Post by: bthezebra on Sun, 01 October 2017, 12:25:21
In for a base, add on, and spacebar kit.Same! I am so randy baby Yeah!
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Post by: neon_tom on Sun, 01 October 2017, 12:41:04
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Post by: Kafka on Sun, 01 October 2017, 12:48:42
GMK does not have molds for convex 2.25u or 2.75uSadly, I don't think full fledged 40% support is a viable option with GMK sets right now. However, I will add some 2.25u and 2.75u blanks to the spacebar kit for split space users :)
Are those merely blank shift keys, or will they be convex spacebars?
Post by: toan on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:07:41
edit: and the price will automatically go down when it reaches a certain quantity?
Post by: avid on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:15:59
Questions:
#1 Will there be any counter / update to show how many sets has been sold?
#2 How long is the GB open for?
Nice to see it's going live! :thumb:
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:40:02
Tried to order on DixieMech and no valid Canadian shipping option is available. Hope that gets sorted out.
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Unfortunately, there is no Canadian proxy and when I spoke to Dixie Mech, he mentioned that shipping would be pretty high. Roughly $50-60 ish. With duties and taxes the price climbed way too high. So I just ordered and sent it to a family member in Pennsylvania. Asked them to bring it up the next time they are here.
Post by: mkarlsson on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:42:31
https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-9009_30/
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Post by: neon_tom on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:57:37
Tried to order on DixieMech and no valid Canadian shipping option is available. Hope that gets sorted out.
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Unfortunately, there is no Canadian proxy and when I spoke to Dixie Mech, he mentioned that shipping would be pretty high. Roughly $50-60 ish. With duties and taxes the price climbed way too high. So I just ordered and sent it to a family member in Pennsylvania. Asked them to bring it up the next time they are here.
Yeah I talked to him today and I think he got it sorted out. Shipping is much higher than I’ve paid in the past when ordering through Massdrop or Originative, so I need to decide if it’s worth it or not.
Post by: avid on Sun, 01 October 2017, 14:11:46
Post by: janglad on Sun, 01 October 2017, 14:54:48
Tried to order on DixieMech and no valid Canadian shipping option is available. Hope that gets sorted out.
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Unfortunately, there is no Canadian proxy and when I spoke to Dixie Mech, he mentioned that shipping would be pretty high. Roughly $50-60 ish. With duties and taxes the price climbed way too high. So I just ordered and sent it to a family member in Pennsylvania. Asked them to bring it up the next time they are here.
Yeah I talked to him today and I think he got it sorted out. Shipping is much higher than I’ve paid in the past when ordering through Massdrop or Originative, so I need to decide if it’s worth it or not.
We have found a cheaper way! Will post the new shipping price to Canada once Dixie replies :) Should be quuuuite a bit cheaper. Adding yet another proxy sadly really wasn't an option.
Edit: it's $35 now :)
Post by: janglad on Sun, 01 October 2017, 15:13:38
Post by: Pieminister on Sun, 01 October 2017, 16:14:16
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 October 2017, 16:15:21
How long will the GB be open for? :D
2 weeks, until 10/15.
Post by: superdoedoe on Sun, 01 October 2017, 19:57:40
Post by: lee jeong woo on Mon, 02 October 2017, 01:47:20
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 02 October 2017, 09:14:36
Did the GB for the US folks begin?
I am not seeing any links or notice from OP.
Am I missing something?
Post by: janglad on Mon, 02 October 2017, 09:23:56
Hi guys,It has, dixiemech.com . GB thread here is awaiting approval :)
Did the GB for US start?
I am not seeing any links or notice from OP.
Am I missing something?
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Post by: kconfire on Mon, 02 October 2017, 09:30:08
Hi guys,It has, dixiemech.com . GB thread here is awaiting approval :)
Did the GB for US start?
I am not seeing any links or notice from OP.
Am I missing something?
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Ah, awesome. Thanks!
And thanks for running this R2!
I can finally get my hands on 2 sets. :) :thumb:
Post by: avid on Mon, 02 October 2017, 10:53:37
Hi guys,It has, dixiemech.com . GB thread here is awaiting approval :)
Did the GB for US start?
I am not seeing any links or notice from OP.
Am I missing something?
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Ah, awesome. Thanks!
And thanks for running this R2!
I can finally get my hands on 2 sets. :) :thumb:
For the price of one :cool:
Post by: janglad on Mon, 02 October 2017, 11:00:20
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91844.0
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 02 October 2017, 12:56:28
Hi guys,It has, dixiemech.com . GB thread here is awaiting approval :)
Did the GB for US start?
I am not seeing any links or notice from OP.
Am I missing something?
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk
Ah, awesome. Thanks!
And thanks for running this R2!
I can finally get my hands on 2 sets. :) :thumb:
For the price of one :cool:
lol yeah! might even get 3 sets. :))
Post by: tommyonsn on Tue, 09 January 2018, 03:48:46
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 11 January 2018, 19:33:06
Can you add 8u space and some novelty keycaps for cherry 9009 keyboard?
Mate the GB has already ran, keysets produced and shipping out to vendors/GB runners next month. You missed the boat by about 4 months.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 11 January 2018, 20:25:01
Can you add 8u space and some novelty keycaps for cherry 9009 keyboard?
Mate the GB has already ran, keysets produced and shipping out to vendors/GB runners next month. You missed the boat by about 4 months.
9009 R3 says wut :P
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 11 January 2018, 20:52:00
Post by: vincent88928 on Thu, 11 January 2018, 21:04:00
Link to 40% kit ran by TheVanKeyboards for those interested :thumb: (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/739pzj/ic_gmk_9009_40s_kit_update/)Is this Cherry MX HHKB keyset?
09/09/17 update
Haven't heard from our German friends yet, but I have secured a Korean proxy! This will be done by Cocobrais who you may know from GMK Burgundy and some damn cool Korean customs! He guarantees the sale of 75 base sets, 50 space-bar kits and 50 add-on kits (meaning that he'll buy them out of pocket if he doesn't sell that many). This means that MOQ shouldn't be an issue for any of the kits :thumb:
06/09/17 update
Thank you for all of your input, the final quote has just been put in at GMK! I expect the response to take a couple of weeks. The GB will go up ASAP after I receive the response though! Thank you for all your support so far, I hope this trend continues into the GB so we don't run into any MOQ issues :-*
Whatttt is up my fellow keeb lovers!!
With its classic beige tones and stylish splash of colour, the 9009 colourway designed by Reuters in the 90's has sure made an impression on this community. So much in fact, that the set is going for insane amounts of money on mechmarket. This really pains me everytime I see it since I absolutely adore simple sets like this and I know I'm not the only one not able to splash the cash on it.
There was a PBT GB on KeyClack some time ago but frankly, it really didn't look the same :( . So I decided to spend some times on getting things set up for another round of 9009. I am in talks with vendors for both the EU and the US, Dixiemech.com and mykeyboard.eu respectively, both of which are great guys and have been super helpful in this process. David from Mykeyboard will also be supplying matching keyboard sleeves and cables on both his site and on Dixiemech, both of which are handmade in Belgium :) .
I have already put in a quote about a week ago, and am waiting for a response. Don't worry, you won't be paying $180 for a GMK set here folks! The price range I'm trying to aim at is $140-150, this might not seem super low but please keep in mind that the USD-EUR is going down again and that we will be paying all necessary tax, something that doesn't seem to happen much in this community. This can make a 21% revenue difference :p Either way, all is depended on GMK's quote. Let's hope they pleasantly surprise us :D
I have also put in some time making renders on boards and to show off the kit design.
Tl:Dr:
What? Another run of GMK 9009, the classy colour scheme used on Reuters trading boards .
When? Depended on feedback and GMK's supply, but a lot of work is already done. September seems like an achievable goal.
How much? Depended on the quote we get from GMK, trying to keep it at $140 in the US and €125 ish including 21% tax for my fellow Europeans.
Updated Kit Design
Please consider that since price is an issue not everybody can get all specific keys they want. After going through all advice and feedback I genuinely feel like this is the best balance between the number of keys and cost I can give you. I hope everybody understands that if I added every key all people wanted this would turn into a €200 base kit, and I'm probably not even exaggerating here. Unless there are major issues found in this kit design it will stay as is, tweaking this for ages will only slow down the process of running this GB.
Base kitShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VcKhIhk.jpg)
Add-on kitShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/yXtlE6L.jpg)
Spacebar kitShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/t732bG3.jpg)
RendersShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/hsCIt1T.jpg)
Rubreh Domeh (there will be a center stemmed 6u spacebar in the kit!)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/naXZwHn.jpg)
Modern M0110Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AlaGbMm.jpg)
Mech-27 (ISO :thumb: :thumb: )Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yU1Dgwh.jpg)
FC980C (final set will have front printed legends on the numpad!)
Things to fix, add, ...Thank you all for looking all feedback is appreciated, you have yourself a nice day!
- Getting a quote from GMK
- Making sure everything is 100% set up with vendors
- Launching the GB!! :D
Old kit design:MoreKit DesignShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/GWpPNJg.jpg)
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 11 January 2018, 21:25:47
8u is for plebs. When are we going to get a full 15u spacebar? #TimesUpyeah +1 :cool:
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 11 January 2018, 21:27:41
8u is for plebs. When are we going to get a full 15u spacebar? #TimesUpyeah +1 :cool:
what about 12u for a viper style case :O
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 11 January 2018, 21:30:59
also 19u for the 96 layout pls :rolleyes:8u is for plebs. When are we going to get a full 15u spacebar? #TimesUpyeah +1 :cool:
what about 12u for a viper style case :O
Post by: Randalljai on Sun, 04 February 2018, 22:19:00
Post by: yqliang on Thu, 08 March 2018, 23:11:55
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 08 March 2018, 23:13:40
Missed these... Any chance for an R2?...
You mean R3? This was R2 :)