[GB] the Moon - Custom Keyboard - Shipping

[DillonHightower]

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[Kavik]

I just soldered my second PCB to its daughterboard, and it has the same issue in which every key registers except R-WIN. This makes me lean more towards a keymap issue since I doubt the same key would be defective on two PCBs. I still haven't got around to messing with TMK.

[DillonHightower]

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[swangful]

I just soldered my second PCB to its daughterboard, and it has the same issue in which every key registers except R-WIN. This makes me lean more towards a keymap issue since I doubt the same key would be defective on two PCBs. I still haven't got around to messing with TMK.

mine is doing the same thing

I made the mistake of resetting it lol...now my board is just empty Hopefully we can get a functioning hex soon

[DillonHightower]

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[Manticzeus]

From what I've been told from people in the China group buy you can use TGK.io, select kimera, go into details and go to custom. You need to set up the columns and key matrix for the board, I just cant figure out the correct way to do it.

[Undergroundflaw]

Any information on when the next group will be shipping out?

[Eggplant]

Some shots for you guys:






Overall, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out; however, it feels noticeably more rough than mira did. I'm not sure if it was intentional, but the logo on the back and the weight on the bottom don't sit quite flush, the logo is slightly raised, while the weight is slightly recessed. My top plate also came somewhat marked up, pictured below.



I haven't gotten around to soldering the switches in yet; like others, I accidentally pressed the reset button, not knowing it flushed the settings out, so I'm waiting on a hex file to start checking the pcb.

Edit: I just unscrewed my weight to take a look at it, and as it turns out, the right most hole doesn't seem to be threaded at all, or is incorrectly threaded, the right most screw isn't securing the weight at all. I'm guessing this might have something to do with my weight not sitting flush. Hmm... :|

Also, I guess while I'm complaining, I wish the pcb supported split right shift.

[swangful]

Is it safe to use brass polish on the weights?

EDIT: Nevermind, just ended up using water, vinegar, and lemon juice and it cleaned the brass up perfectly.

[Manticzeus]

Is it safe to use brass polish on the weights?

EDIT: Nevermind, just ended up using water, vinegar, and lemon juice and it cleaned the brass up perfectly.

Good to know, I was wondering how I should clean them.

[Kavik]

Some shots for you guys:

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Overall, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out; however, it feels noticeably more rough than mira did. I'm not sure if it was intentional, but the logo on the back and the weight on the bottom don't sit quite flush, the logo is slightly raised, while the weight is slightly recessed. My top plate also came somewhat marked up, pictured below.

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I haven't gotten around to soldering the switches in yet; like others, I accidentally pressed the reset button, not knowing it flushed the settings out, so I'm waiting on a hex file to start checking the pcb.

Edit: I just unscrewed my weight to take a look at it, and as it turns out, the right most hole doesn't seem to be threaded at all, or is incorrectly threaded, the right most screw isn't securing the weight at all. I'm guessing this might have something to do with my weight not sitting flush. Hmm... :|

Also, I guess while I'm complaining, I wish the pcb supported split right shift.

I guess I'm really lucky I didn't hit that button. I didn't even know it was there until I'd already finished building it. I have the exact same issue with the right most screw on the weight. I was able to screw it in enough that it didn't fall out, but it still spun without tightening any further (not really sure how that is). I like your colors btw.

[neralo]

hey zzjayfree, wondering if you've got an ETA on the remainder of the board to be shipped out?

[rioc]

Is it safe to use brass polish on the weights?

EDIT: Nevermind, just ended up using water, vinegar, and lemon juice and it cleaned the brass up perfectly.

Good to know, I was wondering how I should clean them.

same... got quite a few fingerprints all over my brass parts. (will copy those first though)

[rioc]

[...] I'm not sure if it was intentional, but the logo on the back and the weight on the bottom don't sit quite flush, the logo is slightly raised, while the weight is slightly recessed. [...]

I'm not sure either, but since my CN Edition also has the logo slightly raised I'm going out on a limb and say it's intentional. (I acutally quite like it raised)
I'll check the stripes at home again on both versions but I didn't notice mine being recessed. (Maybe didn't look close enough.)

As for the fingerprints, use the solution posted by Swangful... should work without damaging the brass treatment

[zzyjayfree]

mine is doing the same thing

every key registers except R-WIN

I believe the R-win is pre-flashed to be function key. I think I have it on the PCB I got for Tank. Like you guys I was confused in the beginning . I was wondering if I did not solder the switch properly, then I un-soldered it and re-soldered it, still not working. Then someone mentioned to me it was set to be a function key.

Anyways, I'll try to get the instruction as soon as possible..

For the second batch I haven't heard about anything yet, but I'll update as soon as I know.

[Chimera]

the grey with burgundy keycaps looks really good.

[Krytone]

11 days down and my board is still in China

[zzyjayfree]

R-win confirmed to be set as Fn by default, that should answer a few questions. So don't un-solder and re-solder like I did...

Also got the mapping instruction in Chinese.. Not sure how helpful it will be, trying to find the English version, if some one have one please feel free to share it. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rDQhwKfjRVQxS5aDd2SKaFo8yoDeFe5n

[zzyjayfree]

11 days down and my board is still in China

Ye normally it's much quicker.. But I can see there's an update today says "customs release" from about 6 hours ago. Hopefully it will be fast from this point on.

[Krytone]

11 days down and my board is still in China

Ye normally it's much quicker.. But I can see there's an update today says "customs release" from about 6 hours ago. Hopefully it will be fast from this point on.

yeah, thanks man. saw that too and was just confused why its taking long in the origin custom. But no worries, i can wait 

[nathanchere]

11 days down and my board is still in China

Pad over a fortnight ago and still don't even have a tracking number

[EvoPlatypus]

Any chance of getting a new PCB and Daughter-board? I have a $500 paper weight now.

[DillonHightower]

Any chance of getting a new PCB and Daughter-board? I have a $500 paper weight now.

WhAt did you dooooo!??

[EvoPlatypus]

Any chance of getting a new PCB and Daughter-board? I have a $500 paper weight now.

WhAt did you dooooo!??

PCB came with two components soldered together. No daughter-board. Fixed the two components, still have a dead short of VCC and GND (HA!). Can't do **** now.

Wondering if the phantom PCB would fit.

[FactoryDefaults]

Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.

This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.

If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.

[swangful]

Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.

This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.

If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.

Can't wait to do this. Thank you so much!

EDIT: Guide worked perfectly. If I figure out how to remap keys, I'll let you know too!

[Eggplant]

Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.

This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.

If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.

Thanks!

That seems to have done the trick for one of my boards!

My second board seems to be behaving much differently however. After following the steps, the flash doesn't seem to be taking.



My second board also seems to have come with a usb already soldered on, anyone know if this is the cause of all my woes?

[zzyjayfree]

11 days down and my board is still in China

Pad over a fortnight ago and still don't even have a tracking number

Sorry sir, there was a mix up because of my mistake, I've now have it fixed. Your board was sent out on the 5th and currently on its way to you. I've updated your tracking and it's with DPEX.

[DillonHightower]

Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.

This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.

If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.

Thanks!

That seems to have done the trick for one of my boards!

My second board seems to be behaving much differently however. After following the steps, the flash doesn't seem to be taking.

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My second board also seems to have come with a usb already soldered on, anyone know if this is the cause of all my woes?

Mine also has the second USB on the board not sure why some are different this is very confusing

[Darknight00z]

Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soon^TM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?

[Kavik]

Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soon^TM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?

WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.

[rioc]

Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board

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wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too! 

I present, the Russian Mom Landing Board:



formerly known as the LK - Lunniy Korabl (but that ship sailed after the quoted typo)

[Tre3Cycl3S]

Hey zzyjayfree, I just sent a PM about my unpaid shipping and a request for address change.

[Kavik]

Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board

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wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too! 

I present, the Russian Mom Landing Board:

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formerly known as the LK - Lunniy Korabl (but that ship sailed after the quoted typo) ;)

Moar pics of Russian mom board pls.

[rioc]

Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board

Sent from my DREA100 using Tapatalk

wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too! 

I present, the Russian Mom Landing Board:

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formerly known as the LK - Lunniy Korabl (but that ship sailed after the quoted typo) ;)

Moar pics of Russian mom board pls.

ALBUM HERE

[Kavik]

Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.

This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.

If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.

I reconfigured the matrix mapping to accept an ANSI WKL layout (snippet below). The issue I'm running into is that my computer does not see the PCB controller as ATm32U4DFU, but rather as "Kimera (Interface 0)", "Kimera (Interface 1)", "Kimera (Interface 2)", "Kimera (Interface 3)", and "Kimera (Interface 4)" (five separate devices?). Anywho, I install the driver with Zadig on all of them, but tkg.io shows "No devices found" in the "Burn .eep file" dropdown. How do I get the website to recognize the keyboard controller?



Matrix Mapping:

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["1,1",{x:1},"1,2","1,3","1,4","1,5",{x:0.5},"1,6","1,7","1,8","1,9",{x:0.5},"1,10","1,11","7,1","7,2",{x:0.25},"7,3","7,4","7,5"],
[{y:0.5},"2,1","2,2","2,3","2,4","2,5","2,6","2,7","2,8","2,9","2,10","2,11","7,6","7,7",{w:2},"7,8",{x:0.25},"7,9","7,10","7,11"],
[{w:1.5},"3,1","3,2","3,3","3,4","3,5","3,6","3,7","3,8","3,9","3,10","3,11","8,1","8,2",{w:1.5},"8,3",{x:0.25},"8,4","8,5","8,6"],
[{w:1.75},"4,1","4,2","4,3","4,4","4,5","4,6","4,7","4,8","4,9","4,10","4,11","8,7",{w:2.25},"8,8"],
[{w:2.25},"5,1","5,3","5,4","5,5","5,6","5,7","5,8","5,9","5,10","5,11","8,9",{w:2.75},"8,11",{x:1.25},"8,10"],
[{w:1.5},"6,1",{x:1,w:1.5},"6,2",{w:7},"6,3",{w:1.5},"6,4",{x:1,w:1.5},"6,5",{x:0.25},"6,6","6,7","6,8"]
Key mapping:

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["Esc",{x:1},"F1","F2","F3","F4",{x:0.5},"F5","F6","F7","F8",{x:0.5},"F9","F10","F11","F12",{x:0.25},"PrtSc","Scroll Lock","Pause\nBreak"],
[{y:0.5},"~\n`","!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{w:2},"Backspace",{x:0.25},"Insert","Home","PgUp"],
[{w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\",{x:0.25},"Delete","End","PgDn"],
[{w:1.75},"Caps Lock","A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:2.75},"Shift",{x:1.25},"↑"],
[{w:1.5},"Ctrl",{x:1,w:1.5},"Alt",{a:7,w:7},"",{a:4,w:1.5},"Alt",{x:1,w:1.5},"Ctrl",{x:0.25},"←","↓","→"]

[Krytone]

initial check... its perfect!

[nathanchere]

Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soon^TM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?

WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.

I got WKL and used a 6.25u space bar fine. See attached.

Have I second the comments earlier about the finish. Overall it's built like a tank, love the weight, and the anodising looks great. The weights look very sloppy by comparison - loose fit and only partly flush with the case. The rear logo sticks out but at least evenly so seems intentional.

Overall it's a great case, I just screwed up by getting PCB mount stabs instead of plate mount. Waiting for the replacements to arrive so I can finally use this beauty on a regular basis...

[dblack]

Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soon^TM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?

WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.

I got WKL and used a 6.25u space bar fine. See attached.

Have I second the comments earlier about the finish. Overall it's built like a tank, love the weight, and the anodising looks great. The weights look very sloppy by comparison - loose fit and only partly flush with the case. The rear logo sticks out but at least evenly so seems intentional.

Overall it's a great case, I just screwed up by getting PCB mount stabs instead of plate mount. Waiting for the replacements to arrive so I can finally use this beauty on a regular basis...

that looks interesting haha

[rioc]

I reconfigured the matrix mapping to accept an ANSI WKL layout (snippet below). The issue I'm running into is that my computer does not see the PCB controller as ATm32U4DFU, but rather as "Kimera (Interface 0)", "Kimera (Interface 1)", "Kimera (Interface 2)", "Kimera (Interface 3)", and "Kimera (Interface 4)" (five separate devices?). Anywho, I install the driver with Zadig on all of them, but tkg.io shows "No devices found" in the "Burn .eep file" dropdown. How do I get the website to recognize the keyboard controller?

(Attachment Link)

this means your board has already been flashed with a layout... probably need to reset the board with the onboard switch to get it to show up as an atmega again

Edit: I can tell you this evening, wanna flash a different layer layout onto one of mine, I don't really need a scroll lock key

[neralo]

Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soon^TM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?

WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.

I got WKL and used a 6.25u space bar fine. See attached.

Have I second the comments earlier about the finish. Overall it's built like a tank, love the weight, and the anodising looks great. The weights look very sloppy by comparison - loose fit and only partly flush with the case. The rear logo sticks out but at least evenly so seems intentional.

Overall it's a great case, I just screwed up by getting PCB mount stabs instead of plate mount. Waiting for the replacements to arrive so I can finally use this beauty on a regular basis...

Uh....Pretty sure this uses PCB mount stabs.

I mean. You can see the PCB stab mounting holes on the PCB.

https://i.imgur.com/TNqxELb.jpg PCB pic taken from Swangful's pictures a page back.

[Puddsy]

Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soon^TM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?

WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.

I got WKL and used a 6.25u space bar fine. See attached.

Have I second the comments earlier about the finish. Overall it's built like a tank, love the weight, and the anodising looks great. The weights look very sloppy by comparison - loose fit and only partly flush with the case. The rear logo sticks out but at least evenly so seems intentional.

Overall it's a great case, I just screwed up by getting PCB mount stabs instead of plate mount. Waiting for the replacements to arrive so I can finally use this beauty on a regular basis...

the cutouts do not allow for plate mount stabs

[Helldrop]

My Moon with FR-4 plate, the material which is needed to make PCB.

[Arokai]

Haven't been looking at this forum in a while, and started seeing people posting so i wanted to check on my status.

i dont have a tracking number? was i supposed to get an additional invoice for shipping?

[LightningXI]

I received my Moon TKL from DHL last night.

I unpacked all of the components, and while I have not had the chance to test the PCBs due to the nature of the breakout pieces, I discovered an unfortunate defect on my WKL top -- right above the navigation cluster, as seen below. As you can see, the defect is a chip on the anodized black surface, so the bare aluminum is exposed:



Even though this is unfortunate, I just went ahead to report the finding to zzyjayfree and asked if I can get a replacement WKL top. The switches going into this keyboard are ready to go. I hope I will catch a break to assemble it soon.

Who here has gotten the PCB to work fully?

[Puddsy]

I received my Moon TKL from DHL last night.

I unpacked all of the components, and while I have not had the chance to test the PCBs due to the nature of the breakout pieces, I discovered an unfortunate defect on my WKL top -- right above the navigation cluster, as seen below. As you can see, the defect is a chip on the anodized black surface, so the bare aluminum is exposed:

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Even though this is unfortunate, I just went ahead to report the finding to zzyjayfree and asked if I can get a replacement WKL top. The switches going into this keyboard are ready to go. I hope I will catch a break to assemble it soon.

Who here has gotten the PCB to work fully?

ok so from what zzyjayfree told me, i think that getting a new top might be hard since they have to be fitted to the bottoms, but i could be totally wrong on that

break out a sharpie and see if that helps

i'm still looking for info on the PCB, hard to find stuff on it still, i'll post in this thread if i find a good guide

[Kavik]

I reconfigured the matrix mapping to accept an ANSI WKL layout (snippet below). The issue I'm running into is that my computer does not see the PCB controller as ATm32U4DFU, but rather as "Kimera (Interface 0)", "Kimera (Interface 1)", "Kimera (Interface 2)", "Kimera (Interface 3)", and "Kimera (Interface 4)" (five separate devices?). Anywho, I install the driver with Zadig on all of them, but tkg.io shows "No devices found" in the "Burn .eep file" dropdown. How do I get the website to recognize the keyboard controller?

(Attachment Link)

this means your board has already been flashed with a layout... probably need to reset the board with the onboard switch to get it to show up as an atmega again

Edit: I can tell you this evening, wanna flash a different layer layout onto one of mine, I don't really need a scroll lock key

You are correct. After pressing the reset button on the board, I can now flash the PCB from tkg.io. Thank you! Also, the step using Zadig is not necessary; in fact, tkg.io will not recognize it if I install the driver, so I just press the reset button and then select "burn .eep file".

Now I am running into issues with the key matrix. (Ignoring WKL layout for testing purposes) The one listed in the guide document still does not activate R-Win, even if I map it to something else besides Fn such as the letter A, or, you know, Win. I do know that this key works however because, when I use the key matrix from my previous post, it activates the left arrow key. Consequently, I realized that my modified matrix does not work right. I was able to get the arrows and rCtrl and rAlt to register how I want them (in WKL layout) by assigning their positions as {w:1.5},"6,6",{x:1,w:1.5},"6,8",{x:0.25},"6,9","6,10","6,11"], but then no keys to the left of R-WIN register no matter what x-axis value I give them (counting forward from 1 or backward from 11).

That said, shouldn't the key matrix be the same no matter what so that I can just assign R-WIN to rAlt and assign R-ALT and R-MENU to nothing for my layout? Modifying the matrix just seems like a hacky way of doing it. I think I just need a corrected matrix that 1. actually allows R-WIN to be used and 2. lets me paste my WKL layout from keyboard-layout-editor.com without "position mismatch" errors.

Short version: I think the key matrix in the instruction document is slightly wrong preventing R-WIN from working and WKL layout from being seen as valid.

[nathanchere]

never mind, I'm retarded

[DillonHightower]

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[Puddsy]

What other PCB would fit in this? Issues and lack of support is making me question weather I should even bother with this build. Completely absurd the lack of knowledge about this software. And it seems no one on the vendor side seems to care   I mean they have the money already  why shilould they   🤔

take a picture of the bottom piece and i can give it a guess

don't think anything else will fit because it's got a daughterboard though