I like this. If you do BoW, would you consider matching GMK Minimal?
Do you need permission from folks to use these designs? Or if you already talked to mito et al, would you mind adding that to the OP?
Thank you! Compatibility looks outstanding and really glad to see more ortho support!
Looks dope. Any chance we could get an R3 1u and 1.25u backspace? I know I'll be the Colemak weirdo in this thread, but that's the one mod key included in a Colemak kit that wouldn't match up with Micons if this was combined with another set. 1.25 for normal 40s, 1u for ortho would be amazing.
Wasn’t there already a WoB Micons kit along with the Hiragana Group Buy or is this different somehow?Like psxndc said, that was for full size keyboards only unfortunately. That's what makes this different.
Please consider a second 1u "code" key. I use them for the mac "cmd" key. Many of the ortho sets always only seem to have 1 and it's kind of a bummer.Could you swap the CTRL and CODE keys? I will consider it though, since we already have two CTRL and ALT keys. Might as well duplicate that one for symmetric layouts.
This is probably an unintentionally mistake but the form mislabels GMK Minimal as CR on WS2 instead of CR on WS1( which is the correct one). CR on WS2 is GMK Monochrome
ISO Enter?
This is probably an unintentionally mistake but the form mislabels GMK Minimal as CR on WS2 instead of CR on WS1( which is the correct one). CR on WS2 is GMK Monochrome
Thank you. You are entirely correct. I will remove this option from the form as this makes the entire process easier. I will match original WOB and GMK Minimal.ISO Enter?
Sorry, but I think that's just too niche for 40% layouts. GMK Hiragana had an ISO enter in its micons kit.
Please consider a second 1u "code" key. I use them for the mac "cmd" key. Many of the ortho sets always only seem to have 1 and it's kind of a bummer.Could you swap the CTRL and CODE keys? I will consider it though, since we already have two CTRL and ALT keys. Might as well duplicate that one for symmetric layouts.
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I now specifically asked for a quote with 1.5u convex and a quote for regular R4 1.5u keys.
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1.5u space bars would be so nice. I'd probably just join to get them.
I asked about different space bar sizes last year at the start of summer and was told they only do new tooling for new keycaps that aren't currently available, if there is a demand from the community as a whole and not just for one GB.
Would that mean the cost of the new tooling needed would be included in the price of the kit or will it be similar to the 3u space bars where it gets put into development(took more then 6 months) from GMK themselves and they will be available for everyone at no additional cost?
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I'm not sure how they would determine the demand from the community as a whole. A lot of split ortho's have 1.5u as thumb keys which would be great to have as a space key. GMK is an exception, but I am happy they usually make the cut in other profiles.
The way I understood it was that there are two ways of pricing. One is for a specific GB and will be pricy, but much less so if GMK has rights to use the molds afterwards in how they see fit. This would mean they also become available to the community for other GB's. The price will be less in that way.
It could be that this information is not entirely correct. I am hearing this from the vendor who is in contact with GMK. I made it clear I would be very happy for these molds to be available to the community. So all I can do now is wait again and ask for updates if it's taking a while.
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I'm not sure how they would determine the demand from the community as a whole. A lot of split ortho's have 1.5u as thumb keys which would be great to have as a space key. GMK is an exception, but I am happy they usually make the cut in other profiles.
The way I understood it was that there are two ways of pricing. One is for a specific GB and will be pricy, but much less so if GMK has rights to use the molds afterwards in how they see fit. This would mean they also become available to the community for other GB's. The price will be less in that way.
It could be that this information is not entirely correct. I am hearing this from the vendor who is in contact with GMK. I made it clear I would be very happy for these molds to be available to the community. So all I can do now is wait again and ask for updates if it's taking a while.
Could there be a misunderstanding between molds and tooling? New molds(=Schriftsätze) shouldn't add much more to the quote, especially if you reach a high MOQ. But the 1.5 space bar would need a new tooling(=Werkzeug), like the 3u space bar, which should be more expensive. Molds can also be used for any row after they have been made AFAIK.
But to clarify I was told this; "Nur eine ausreichende Nachfrage, guter Absatz rechtfertigt neue Werkzeuge."(Only a sufficient demand, good sales warrant new toolings.), when I asked for further space bar options.
Any way I hope you are able to add them to the kit because 1.5u space bars would allow for symmetrical bottom rows on split space bar layouts and I'd really appreciate that as someone who uses wide mod on standard staggered layouts.
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I'm not sure how they would determine the demand from the community as a whole. A lot of split ortho's have 1.5u as thumb keys which would be great to have as a space key. GMK is an exception, but I am happy they usually make the cut in other profiles.
The way I understood it was that there are two ways of pricing. One is for a specific GB and will be pricy, but much less so if GMK has rights to use the molds afterwards in how they see fit. This would mean they also become available to the community for other GB's. The price will be less in that way.
It could be that this information is not entirely correct. I am hearing this from the vendor who is in contact with GMK. I made it clear I would be very happy for these molds to be available to the community. So all I can do now is wait again and ask for updates if it's taking a while.
Could there be a misunderstanding between molds and tooling? New molds(=Schriftsätze) shouldn't add much more to the quote, especially if you reach a high MOQ. But the 1.5 space bar would need a new tooling(=Werkzeug), like the 3u space bar, which should be more expensive. Molds can also be used for any row after they have been made AFAIK.
But to clarify I was told this; "Nur eine ausreichende Nachfrage, guter Absatz rechtfertigt neue Werkzeuge."(Only a sufficient demand, good sales warrant new toolings.), when I asked for further space bar options.
Any way I hope you are able to add them to the kit because 1.5u space bars would allow for symmetrical bottom rows on split space bar layouts and I'd really appreciate that as someone who uses wide mod on standard staggered layouts.
In keycap manufacturing, what is the difference between molds and tooling?
Hey Harlekein, did anyone pick this up?No one contacted me about this.
The current GMK White-on-Black sets available on drop and originative have great coverage, but still miss out on providing coverage for many different layouts TcsWebmail (https://www.tcswebmail.info/)
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Hope someone picks this up. I'd definitely be down for picking one up.
Tried buying one of the keyboard and damn they don't ship to my address :(
I'm purchasing but they don't ship to my location.i am also facing same issues so order it to my place, told him to send to me