Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:25:15
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Let me introduce you to a project me and /u/heroyjenkins have been working on the past few months, the Modern M0110. A modern take on the legendary board Steve Jobs himself designed to go with the original Macintosh, it has sure left its footprint on the community. Not only are people still working on retrofitting modern components in to it to this day, it also inspired Eiiti Wada to design the legendary HHKB. Combining the best of old-school looks and modern typing comfort, this board is sure to convince both your fingers and your eyes.
Machining
It will be milled out of solid aluminium, weighing the board in at +3kg unbuilt! The top-mounted plate will be available in different materials for optimal typing comfort. The case will be compatible with 60% PCBs like the GH60.
Finishing
We're looking into multiple finishes, from the standard anodising to powder coating and more. Suggestions are always welcome.
Pricing
This is a big one obviously, the model is fairly complex for a keyboard and it uses a hell of a lot of material. Shipping will also be quite costly considering the weight. The price point we're looking at right now will be quite competitive, however, we want to wait until we have our prototype in hand before we say anything final. As it is right now, pricing for a anodised model included plate will be in the low $200-300 range for sure. The prototype is expected to arrive in less than a week :)
Shipping
As for shipping, I'll be sure to hit up some familiar faces from the 9009 GB. I hope I can prove again that it's possible to get a nice keyboard related item without giving your life savings to customs ;D
To-do
Finish up on designOrder prototype- Evaluate prototype
- Launch GB
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Post by: xondat on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:26:47
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:29:32
Looks pretty uncomfortable to type on. How wide are the bezels, and how tall is it?
Height is the same as the original M0110, however, the angle is way less (7 degrees right now). If the proto proves to be uncomfortable the height will be adjusted for sure, but we tried to follow the original design as much as possible initially.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:30:06
Looks pretty uncomfortable to type on. How wide are the bezels, and how tall is it?
Height is the same as the original M0110, however, the angle is way less (7 degrees right now). If the proto proves to be uncomfortable the height will be adjusted for sure, but we tried to follow the original design as much as possible initially.
I'm not familiar with the dimensions of the original, what are they?
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Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:49:57
Retro60 is also designed base on the look of M0110
I know, but I personally would consider this to be a nicer interpretation if I do say so myself :p. Flat vs angled, tray mount vs top mount, ..... We are looking at a similar pricepoint though ;)
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:50:16
Any plan of the same case but with normal top, without blockers? (just a 60%)
Possible to be added with enough requests :)
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:52:34
Looks pretty uncomfortable to type on. How wide are the bezels, and how tall is it?
Height is the same as the original M0110, however, the angle is way less (7 degrees right now). If the proto proves to be uncomfortable the height will be adjusted for sure, but we tried to follow the original design as much as possible initially.
I'm not familiar with the dimensions of the original, what are they?
About 3cm from the very top to the bottom.
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Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:04:08
Any chance for alps compatibility?Alps support would be amazing. The trouble is, of course, keycaps. I'm going to say that the layout will make alps a no go, sadly. Unless someone can convince a vendor to start making non-standard alps keycaps :)
Post by: Zobeid Zuma on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:55:44
I know, but I personally would consider this to be a nicer interpretation if I do say so myself :p. Flat vs angled, tray mount vs top mount, ..... We are looking at a similar pricepoint though ;)
Decisions, decisions!
One cool feature of the Retro 60 is an extra-high-profile to better match SA keycaps, then provided spacers to raise the PCB if using lower-profile sets. I suppose that could be done in some way with top mount? Not sure exactly what it would entail, though.
We need a version without blockers. And although I like the idea of a top-mounted plate, it does mean I have to use your plate and hope it supports my favored layout, or else I'm left trying to modify it, or replace it entirely with something custom.
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:58:26
I know, but I personally would consider this to be a nicer interpretation if I do say so myself :p. Flat vs angled, tray mount vs top mount, ..... We are looking at a similar pricepoint though ;)
Decisions, decisions!
One cool feature of the Retro 60 is an extra-high-profile to better match SA keycaps, then provided spacers to raise the PCB if using lower-profile sets. I suppose that could be done in some way with top mount? Not sure exactly what it would entail, though.
We need a version without blockers. And although I like the idea of a top-mounted plate, it does mean I have to use your plate and hope it supports my favored layout, or else I'm left trying to modify it, or replace it entirely with something custom.
This is also higher profile then normal, although not just as much as the R60 if I'm remembering it correctly. Also, the plate supports pretty much every 60 layout I know of except for 2u shift (that needs a new plate entirely)
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:59:08
Any chance for alps compatibility?Alps support would be amazing. The trouble is, of course, keycaps. I'm going to say that the layout will make alps a no go, sadly. Unless someone can convince a vendor to start making non-standard alps keycaps :)
That plate supports both MX and ALPS, and the ALPS64 should work in this case since it supports normal GH60 cases ;) ;)
Post by: Zobeid Zuma on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:05:53
This is also higher profile then normal, although not just as much as the R60 if I'm remembering it correctly. Also, the plate supports pretty much every 60 layout I know of except for 2u shift (that needs a new plate entirely)
Sounds good. The decisions only get harder. The right powder coated finish might win me over. ;)
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:18:02
Any plan of the same case but with normal top, without blockers? (just a 60%)
Possible to be added with enough requests :)
+1 for normal 60%. Hhkb layout is just a no-go for me
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:23:51
This is also higher profile then normal, although not just as much as the R60 if I'm remembering it correctly. Also, the plate supports pretty much every 60 layout I know of except for 2u shift (that needs a new plate entirely)
Sounds good. The decisions only get harder. The right powder coated finish might win me over. ;)
if it could be finished like the new model Fs.... oh man
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:30:48
That plate supports both MX and ALPS, and the ALPS64 should work in this case since it supports normal GH60 cases ;) ;)
Quick question - is this something we should expect this year still?
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:39:47
That plate supports both MX and ALPS, and the ALPS64 should work in this case since it supports normal GH60 cases ;) ;)
Quick question - is this something we should expect this year still?
All depends on the proto. If it's good, this will be launched this year for sure.
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:05:22
That plate supports both MX and ALPS, and the ALPS64 should work in this case since it supports normal GH60 cases ;) ;)
Quick question - is this something we should expect this year still?
All depends on the proto. If it's good, this will be launched this year for sure.
Roger, if that is the case (which for your sake I hope it is) then maybe shooting for a Christmas ish release may be favourable - several cool boards coming out this month.
Post by: Kafka on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:22:25
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:25:40
That plate supports both MX and ALPS, and the ALPS64 should work in this case since it supports normal GH60 cases ;) ;)
Quick question - is this something we should expect this year still?
All depends on the proto. If it's good, this will be launched this year for sure.
Roger, if that is the case (which for your sake I hope it is) then maybe shooting for a Christmas ish release may be favourable - several cool boards coming out this month.
Yeah I really hope everything works out! For all the folks going to the NoCal meetup, you will get a chance to see this board IRL (if the shipping gods are in our favour that is :rolleyes:).
Also, for those that were a fan of the original packaging: Garrett from Dixiemech whipped up a nice concept for the box :)
Original Macintosh box:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Computers/Apple-Macintosh-Computers/i-Gg9H9fZ/0/580664b5/L/DM2_1516-L.jpg)
M0110 box concept:
(https://i.imgur.com/8m3HZLv.png)
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:26:33
Cerakote beige pls
Beige is a must on the list for sure, although I was more looking at a rough powder coat like the Norbeaur Galaxy Console finish.
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:26:43
Cerakote beige pls
I don’t think I’ve ever said it, but that just might be end-game material.
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:28:23
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:30:46
What about the finish on the f77s? It looks fantastic and is a bit more subtle than Ryan’s finish but in the same spirit
Do you know what finishing type they use?
Post by: smithyithy on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:33:03
Colour wise, I'd probably play it safe with a silver if I were to order one, but I think the right shade of light grey could also look really nice :thumb:
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:42:43
Beige is a must on the list for sure, although I was more looking at a rough powder coat like the Norbeaur Galaxy Console finish.
That would be beyond fantastic - since you mentioned Norbauer's beautiful work, if I am allowed a selfish suggestion/request, I'd love to see a straight neon/bubblegum pink akin his Venice Beach (https://i.imgur.com/edr89o9.jpg) colourway since I need a case in that colour for Laser. Even the Exent's pink turned out to be rather on point - http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg
Oh and great job with the packaging, that's very cool and I hope you make it in time to have it sent over to the meet up!
PS: would the main "hub" for the buy be, once again, Mykeyboard like it was for 9009?
Post by: janglad on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:45:43
Beige is a must on the list for sure, although I was more looking at a rough powder coat like the Norbeaur Galaxy Console finish.
That would be beyond fantastic - since you mentioned Norbauer's beautiful work, if I am allowed a selfish suggestion/request, I'd love to see a straight neon/bubblegum pink akin his Venice Beach (https://i.imgur.com/edr89o9.jpg) colourway since I need a case in that colour for Laser. Even the Exent's pink turned out to be rather on point - http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg
Oh and great job with the packaging, that's very cool and I hope you make it in time to have it sent over to the meet up!
PS: would the main "hub" for the buy be, once again, Mykeyboard like it was for 9009?
Hmmm we're really not planning on offering anything too flashy as of now, since this board seems more to be something you build too look "stylish" if you get what I mean. Again, with enough requests we can look into it for sure.
Also, yes we haven't agreed on anything official yet but David said he would gladly run this too :)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:59:13
Hmmm we're really not planning on offering anything too flashy as of now, since this board seems more to be something you build too look "stylish" if you get what I mean. Again, with enough requests we can look into it for sure.
Also, yes we haven't agreed on anything official yet but David said he would gladly run this too :)
Absolutely, it's more an austere board hence me saying it's a selfish/silly request - absolutely understandable if you forgo it in favour of a more fitting colour, I just have funny taste and think the classy design coupled with a whacky colour could be interesting. In all honest I'd probably end up getting one in beige regardless even if pink were to be offered!
Thank you for working on things with David, it's so much easier to not have to go through the customs process myself. Huge quality of life improvement. Appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions!
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:31:39
i know this is already heavy, but any chance of a weight? haha
/u/heroyjenkins here (different username on GH): probably not going to have a weight. This thing is going to be a couple kilos without a dedicated weight (it's cheaper to machine by leaving in a lot of the bulk since the manufacture method substracts material) so it would be way overkill to add an extra weight on top.
Post by: purrito on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:12:49
Don't know about NoCal but I'll definitely be at the NorCal meet upThat plate supports both MX and ALPS, and the ALPS64 should work in this case since it supports normal GH60 cases ;) ;)
Quick question - is this something we should expect this year still?
All depends on the proto. If it's good, this will be launched this year for sure.
Roger, if that is the case (which for your sake I hope it is) then maybe shooting for a Christmas ish release may be favourable - several cool boards coming out this month.
Yeah I really hope everything works out! For all the folks going to the NoCal meetup, you will get a chance to see this board IRL (if the shipping gods are in our favour that is :rolleyes:).
Also, for those that were a fan of the original packaging: Garrett from Dixiemech whipped up a nice concept for the box :)
Original Macintosh box:Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/Computers/Apple-Macintosh-Computers/i-Gg9H9fZ/0/580664b5/L/DM2_1516-L.jpg)
M0110 box concept:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8m3HZLv.png)
I'll have an old school M0110 on hand for a little compare and contrast. Can't wait to see how you've updated it!
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Post by: neralo on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:16:43
Any chance of a yellowed ABS colour haha.
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:02:25
What about the finish on the f77s? It looks fantastic and is a bit more subtle than Ryan’s finish but in the same spirit
Do you know what finishing type they use?
It is powder coated. It just has a bit less raised texture than the Norbauer case. More like the finish on a nice camera body.
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Post by: Zobeid Zuma on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:56:58
What about the finish on the f77s? It looks fantastic and is a bit more subtle than Ryan’s finish but in the same spirit
Got to admit, I had the same thought.
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Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 07 November 2017, 00:15:45
Beige is a must on the list for sure, although I was more looking at a rough powder coat like the Norbeaur Galaxy Console finish.
That would be beyond fantastic - since you mentioned Norbauer's beautiful work, if I am allowed a selfish suggestion/request, I'd love to see a straight neon/bubblegum pink akin his Venice Beach (https://i.imgur.com/edr89o9.jpg) colourway since I need a case in that colour for Laser. Even the Exent's pink turned out to be rather on point - http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg
Oh and great job with the packaging, that's very cool and I hope you make it in time to have it sent over to the meet up!
PS: would the main "hub" for the buy be, once again, Mykeyboard like it was for 9009?
Hmmm we're really not planning on offering anything too flashy as of now, since this board seems more to be something you build too look "stylish" if you get what I mean. Again, with enough requests we can look into it for sure.
Also, yes we haven't agreed on anything official yet but David said he would gladly run this too :)
YES!! Eu buyers are no longer at the mercy of NA and Asian GB and getting shafted by customs and tax.
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Post by: fishpod on Tue, 07 November 2017, 04:42:21
Would definitely get one if this launches in Dec,2017 or Jan,2018. Right now i am just broke AF :( :(
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 07 November 2017, 07:25:22
i know this is already heavy, but any chance of a weight? haha
/u/heroyjenkins here (different username on GH): probably not going to have a weight. This thing is going to be a couple kilos without a dedicated weight (it's cheaper to machine by leaving in a lot of the bulk since the manufacture method substracts material) so it would be way overkill to add an extra weight on top.
Oh trust me, I know it's overkill haha. No worries on it though, gonna be in this buy anyway, since it's a killer design imo.
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Post by: Troif on Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:32:21
Cerakote beige plsYessssss
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Post by: autobot on Tue, 07 November 2017, 18:56:55
Also thinking the same finish but in a Cherry beige to match GMK retro sets.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 08 November 2017, 05:29:42
Beige is a must on the list for sure, although I was more looking at a rough powder coat like the Norbeaur Galaxy Console finish.
That would be beyond fantastic - since you mentioned Norbauer's beautiful work, if I am allowed a selfish suggestion/request, I'd love to see a straight neon/bubblegum pink akin his Venice Beach (https://i.imgur.com/edr89o9.jpg) colourway since I need a case in that colour for Laser. Even the Exent's pink turned out to be rather on point - http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg
Oh and great job with the packaging, that's very cool and I hope you make it in time to have it sent over to the meet up!
PS: would the main "hub" for the buy be, once again, Mykeyboard like it was for 9009?
ZOMG, I'd buy the **** out of this in that Venice Beach pink. Maybe even an extra to gift to a friend if my wallet has enough to rebound before the GB :P. I totally agree, that would look amazing with laser. do want.
Post by: saucybulgogi on Wed, 08 November 2017, 08:12:00
Looks awesome OP!
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Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 08 November 2017, 18:18:04
HelloShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/UxGDCaL.jpg)
Let me introduce you to a project me and /u/heroyjenkins have been working on the past few months, the Modern M0110. A modern take on the legendary board Steve Jobs himself designed to go with the original Macintosh, it has sure left its footprint on the community. Not only are people still working on retrofitting modern components in to it to this day, it also inspired Eiiti Wada to design the legendary HHKB. Combining the best of old-school looks and modern typing comfort, this board is sure to convince both your fingers and your eyes.
Machining
It will be milled out of solid aluminium, weighing the board in at +3kg unbuilt! The top-mounted plate will be available in different materials for optimal typing comfort. The case will be compatible with 60% PCBs like the GH60.
Finishing
We're looking into multiple finishes, from the standard anodising to powder coating and more. Suggestions are always welcome.
Pricing
This is a big one obviously, the model is fairly complex for a keyboard and it uses a hell of a lot of material. Shipping will also be quite costly considering the weight. The price point we're looking at right now will be quite competitive, however, we want to wait until we have our prototype in hand before we say anything final. As it is right now, pricing for a anodised model included plate will be in the low $200-300 range for sure. The prototype is expected to arrive in less than a week :)
Shipping
As for shipping, I'll be sure to hit up some familiar faces from the 9009 GB. I hope I can prove again that it's possible to get a nice keyboard related item without giving your life savings to customs ;D
To-do
Finish up on designOrder prototype- Evaluate prototype
- Launch GB
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/itki5rg.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/O6UrLrK.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iCzPod8.png)
My goodness. While I would love beige...
If you offer this in red or dark purple anode, I’m in!
Will extra plates/brass plates be an option?
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Post by: _PixelNinja on Thu, 09 November 2017, 03:07:43
Another 60%?? is there that much demand?
That is why this is called an interest check — to check interest.
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 09 November 2017, 04:39:01
Another 60%?? is there that much demand?
60% is life :p ! I had 60, tkl, full, clearly love the 60%, found this very “balanced” . Fancy 65% and other layout can be less effective or very complicated to fit with a given keyset :o ! At the end I think a lot of people love hhkb and gh60 layout :)
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Post by: robbles on Thu, 09 November 2017, 10:17:39
Looks pretty uncomfortable to type on. How wide are the bezels, and how tall is it?
This is my primary concern as well. The height makes it look awkward to type on without a wrist rest. And the size of the front bezel makes it look uncomfortable to type on with a wrist rest. Also 7deg seems pretty flat. Don't mean to be a downer though because everything else about it looks great. Excited to see photos of the prototype.
Post by: Zobeid Zuma on Thu, 09 November 2017, 11:29:39
This is my primary concern as well. The height makes it look awkward to type on without a wrist rest. And the size of the front bezel makes it look uncomfortable to type on with a wrist rest. Also 7deg seems pretty flat. Don't mean to be a downer though because everything else about it looks great. Excited to see photos of the prototype.
I was under the impression that ergonomic "best practice" is to hold your hands above the keyboard and not rest your wrist or palm on anything, and that the ideal angle for the keyboard is actually 0 degrees flat, or possibly even a negative angle. That presumes you have your desk set up at the appropriate height, of course.
(https://www.daskeyboard.com/blog/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/keyboard_posture.jpg)
(https://thewirecutter.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/ergonomic-keyboards-illustration-630.jpg)
But when it comes to our mechanical keyboard community, I've been surprised at many have never even learned to touch type.
Post by: robbles on Thu, 09 November 2017, 11:35:42
This is my primary concern as well. The height makes it look awkward to type on without a wrist rest. And the size of the front bezel makes it look uncomfortable to type on with a wrist rest. Also 7deg seems pretty flat. Don't mean to be a downer though because everything else about it looks great. Excited to see photos of the prototype.
I was under the impression that ergonomic "best practice" is to hold your hands above the keyboard and not rest your wrist or palm on anything, and that the ideal angle for the keyboard is actually 0 degrees flat, or possibly even a negative angle. That presumes you have your desk set up at the appropriate height, of course.Show Image(https://www.daskeyboard.com/blog/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/keyboard_posture.jpg)Show Image(https://thewirecutter.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/ergonomic-keyboards-illustration-630.jpg)
But when it comes to our mechanical keyboard community, I've been surprised at many have never even learned to touch type.
True, but for those of us who wrest their hands on the home row pretty much all day, the wrist rest brings your hands up to a comfortable wresting position and makes it easier to lift your wrists when you are actively typing.
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Post by: chicagoboss25 on Sun, 12 November 2017, 23:55:34
How similar ist this thing to the original? Would i it be possible to get the plate and pcb of this and fumble it into the original plastic case?
The cutout for the keycaps is not quite the same because the vintage keyboard and modern 60% keyboards are not exactly the same dimensions so I wouldn't recommend this. But we will be open sourcing the plate design later so you can always work from that if you want for some custom projects.
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Sun, 12 November 2017, 23:56:29
Cerakote beige pls
Yeah hoping to have a cerakote beige prototype in a couple weeks ;)
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Sun, 12 November 2017, 23:58:08
Got to handle this beast at the Palo Alto meetup...one of the few times I picked up and felt a keyboard while grinning from ear to ear.
Thanks for trying it out and for the feedback :D
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Post by: robbles on Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:31:55
I need this in beigeI want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.
Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:32:20
Cerakote beige pls
Yeah hoping to have a cerakote beige prototype in a couple weeks ;)
$200-250...and cerakote?
This keeps getting better and better.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:37:41
Yeah man, good old beige plastic would be a dream come true. I've got G20 Semiotic lined up ready to go! Please!I need this in beigeI want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.
Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.
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Post by: xondat on Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:41:25
I need this in beigeI want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.
Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.
It isn't realistic to make/perfect molds as you'll need to use injection (like keycaps). Far too expensive for little return. Makes sense if you're making hundreds/thousands, but most aren't.
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 15 November 2017, 14:03:46
I need this in beigeI want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.
Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.
The very simple reason is economics. Each set of injection mould dies cost a few tens of thousands of dollars to make, when you factor in the cost of design and test, it can easily get into the 6 figure range. Injection moulding die design is a whole engineering discipline in itself, and it ain't easy or cheap to design dies that will function properly as well as produce parts that fit together post-mould (taking into account shrinkage, distortion, sprues removal and such). Speaking from experience, even parts you spend a few hundred thousand quids designing/verifying and producing aren't necessarily perfect (and believe me, fixing them cost a pretty penny, even at moderate production numbers of around 7-8000 units per annum).
Simply put, unless you're gonna pump these things out by the absolute ****load (tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands units per annum), it just isn't economically feasible to do, especially considering the size of this niche. This is also the same reason that once you produce a working case design, it's sometimes cheaper to stick with it across product lines and design future products based on those instead of making new designs. Just look at Cherry and their G80 line of cases which is common across Cherry MX and MY variants.
Post by: robbles on Wed, 15 November 2017, 14:56:04
Post by: ideus on Wed, 15 November 2017, 15:28:07
Retro60 is also designed base on the look of M0110
I know, but I personally would consider this to be a nicer interpretation if I do say so myself :p. Flat vs angled, tray mount vs top mount, ..... We are looking at a similar pricepoint though ;)
The Retro60 does not features the corner blockers, thus, this is a more faithful replica to the original.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Thu, 16 November 2017, 00:05:04
Totally makes sense, and honestly the 3kg weight estimate sounds pretty incredible. It will be a brick of a board like no other. It really should be called roadblock :DI need this in beigeI want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.
Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.
The very simple reason is economics. Each set of injection mould dies cost a few tens of thousands of dollars to make, when you factor in the cost of design and test, it can easily get into the 6 figure range. Injection moulding die design is a whole engineering discipline in itself, and it ain't easy or cheap to design dies that will function properly as well as produce parts that fit together post-mould (taking into account shrinkage, distortion, sprues removal and such). Speaking from experience, even parts you spend a few hundred thousand quids designing/verifying and producing aren't necessarily perfect (and believe me, fixing them cost a pretty penny, even at moderate production numbers of around 7-8000 units per annum).
Simply put, unless you're gonna pump these things out by the absolute ****load (tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands units per annum), it just isn't economically feasible to do, especially considering the size of this niche. This is also the same reason that once you produce a working case design, it's sometimes cheaper to stick with it across product lines and design future products based on those instead of making new designs. Just look at Cherry and their G80 line of cases which is common across Cherry MX and MY variants.
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Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Sat, 18 November 2017, 16:40:12
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 18 November 2017, 18:30:34
Post by: Zobeid Zuma on Sun, 19 November 2017, 08:28:32
The very simple reason is economics. Each set of injection mould dies cost a few tens of thousands of dollars to make, when you factor in the cost of design and test, it can easily get into the 6 figure range.
Incidentally, this is also why it's hard to get eccentric keycaps, like 2.25u and 2.75u convex spacebars. Nobody wants to spend a fortune on the tooling.
The good news is, 3D printing technology is advancing fast. It may not be quite "there" yet for every application, but it's getting there.
Post by: sK0pe on Sun, 19 November 2017, 08:48:22
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:44:37
Check out the pics over at deskcandy.xyz (https://www.deskcandy.xyz/modern-m0110/).
There are a couple of minor manufacturing issues with respect to banding on the top chamfers and some improvements we'd like to make to the USB port, but anodizing turned out really well on the first pass. We are ordering a couple more prototypes to test (stay tuned for a beige cerakote proto :D ) and a more detailed IC form so we can hone in on contents and options for the GB kit.
Post by: spiritjeon on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:47:57
Hey folks, v1 prototype pics are in!OMG! Sooooo sweet! Leave one for me!
Check out the pics over at deskcandy.xyz (https://www.deskcandy.xyz/modern-m0110/).
There are a couple of minor manufacturing issues with respect to banding on the top chamfers and some improvements we'd like to make to the USB port, but anodizing turned out really well on the first pass. We are ordering a couple more prototypes to test (stay tuned for a beige cerakote proto :D ) and a more detailed IC form so we can hone in on contents and options for the GB kit.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:48:26
Was the original Apple board that angled? I guess I haven't actually seen one since I was little.
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:57:51
Very nice looking prototype. Excited to see more.
Was the original Apple board that angled? I guess I haven't actually seen one since I was little.
We are rocking a 7 degree angle versus the original which I believe came in around 15 degrees. So while we are trying to stay true to the original Apple design, we are also trying to make subtle improvements like with the angle. Should be more comfortable than the original and would probably recommend Cherry profile or DCS keycaps though you can always go crazy with SA profile too. :D
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 19 November 2017, 17:03:23
I'm hoping to get one as a gift for my father who taught me how use a computer on an old Mac so I'm probably not going to go too crazy on the keycaps.
Post by: Darknight00z on Sun, 19 November 2017, 17:59:12
https://www.deskcandy.xyz/modern-m0110/
Gosh the prototype look stunning!!
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 19 November 2017, 22:58:05
Just going to leave this here, incase anybody missed the reddit post.
https://www.deskcandy.xyz/modern-m0110/
Gosh the prototype look stunning!!
It looks really nice. Although, I do wish the plate was sunken down about 1-2mm more than it currently sits. Still a very nice case though.
Post by: kenlee on Mon, 20 November 2017, 00:11:28
Hey folks, v1 prototype pics are in!
Check out the pics over at deskcandy.xyz (https://www.deskcandy.xyz/modern-m0110/).
There are a couple of minor manufacturing issues with respect to banding on the top chamfers and some improvements we'd like to make to the USB port, but anodizing turned out really well on the first pass. We are ordering a couple more prototypes to test (stay tuned for a beige cerakote proto :D ) and a more detailed IC form so we can hone in on contents and options for the GB kit.
Looks NICE
What's height of the front case?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 20 November 2017, 00:38:03
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 01:11:21
Hey folks, v1 prototype pics are in!
Check out the pics over at deskcandy.xyz (https://www.deskcandy.xyz/modern-m0110/).
There are a couple of minor manufacturing issues with respect to banding on the top chamfers and some improvements we'd like to make to the USB port, but anodizing turned out really well on the first pass. We are ordering a couple more prototypes to test (stay tuned for a beige cerakote proto :D ) and a more detailed IC form so we can hone in on contents and options for the GB kit.
Looks NICE
What's height of the front case?
Height to the front edge of the case is approx. 1", though that doesn't account for the bezel/chamfer which rises up a bit more before hitting the bottom of the bottom row keycaps. That looks closer to 1 3/8". Not unreasonably high for daily typing IMO but I personally probably wouldn't use it without a wrist rest (though I use a wrist rest with all mechanical keyboards).
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 01:14:47
Any estimated timeline yet? With the Norbauer Realforce case coming soon-ish, I'm not sure I can budget for both in the same month :-X
If I had to guess, we'll be able to launch the GB early Q1. Given that we're doing another round of prototypes and testing a new finish (cerakote), I don't want to promise that this is going to drop before Xmas.
Post by: heliar_mk on Tue, 21 November 2017, 03:32:24
Post by: Mechboards on Tue, 21 November 2017, 04:33:21
Post by: schmoktopus on Tue, 21 November 2017, 09:26:27
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 22 November 2017, 09:53:33
If possible something like a brass logo like the CA66 would be amazing
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91874.0;attach=179464;image)
Post by: Marutks on Wed, 22 November 2017, 10:34:02
Post by: clickstops on Wed, 22 November 2017, 11:07:23
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/jukebox-tai-hao-cubic?mode=guest_open
Looks like Red Scarf is doing it? Yikes.
Post by: janglad on Wed, 22 November 2017, 11:41:43
I take it you have nothing to do with the Massdrop render that popped up today on the Tai Hao group buy?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/jukebox-tai-hao-cubic?mode=guest_open
Looks like Red Scarf is doing it? Yikes.
I don't indeed :|
As for this project, we're in talks with the original manufacturer and are trying to see if they can fix the issues we had with the proto instead of switches factories (since their price, anodising and overall quality apart from the issues was quite nice).
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 22 November 2017, 11:57:31
I take it you have nothing to do with the Massdrop render that popped up today on the Tai Hao group buy?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/jukebox-tai-hao-cubic?mode=guest_open
Looks like Red Scarf is doing it? Yikes.
I don't indeed :|
As for this project, we're in talks with the original manufacturer and are trying to see if they can fix the issues we had with the proto instead of switches factories (since their price, anodising and overall quality apart from the issues was quite nice).
Ya it is ****ty since now massdrop and redscarf look like they are part of it. Kinda ****ty for the community.
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 22 November 2017, 16:01:40
Something to consider is that Redscarf may have already been working in their project before news about the Modern M0110 was released.I take it you have nothing to do with the Massdrop render that popped up today on the Tai Hao group buy?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/jukebox-tai-hao-cubic?mode=guest_open
Looks like Red Scarf is doing it? Yikes.
I don't indeed :|
As for this project, we're in talks with the original manufacturer and are trying to see if they can fix the issues we had with the proto instead of switches factories (since their price, anodising and overall quality apart from the issues was quite nice).
Ya it is ****ty since now massdrop and redscarf look like they are part of it. Kinda ****ty for the community.
I'm in the same situation where I have been working on a case that closely resembles the CU-75 that's also on GH but I had already been in talks with vendors to move it onto production documentation stage before it was posted to the IC forum. The lucky thing for me is that I'm doing a 60% case and CAPSUNLOCKED's is a 75%.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 22 November 2017, 17:43:38
Post by: jnav on Wed, 22 November 2017, 21:50:10
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 22 November 2017, 23:47:52
Post by: Perfex on Wed, 22 November 2017, 23:54:48
+1 for a logo where the apple would be on the original
Maybe this (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Macintosh-Rainbow-Metal-Emblem-Logo-5-8-16mm-Square-ONE-New/322498358311?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649) ?
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 22 November 2017, 23:58:48
+1 for a logo where the apple would be on the original
Maybe this (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Macintosh-Rainbow-Metal-Emblem-Logo-5-8-16mm-Square-ONE-New/322498358311?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649) ?
Rad!
Post by: lanyusea on Wed, 22 November 2017, 23:59:29
Here's more info on the Red Scarf project: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
seems the prototype of RS MX0110 is out in Sep, which is months earlier than this IC thread...
Post by: typischt on Thu, 23 November 2017, 03:08:27
Looks like the Modern M0110 has a bit more bezel then the one from Chiphell. For me, the Modern looks cooler, though the might be similar..Here's more info on the Red Scarf project: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
seems the prototype of RS MX0110 is out in Sep, which is months earlier than this IC thread...
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 23 November 2017, 07:50:56
Here's more info on the Red Scarf project: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
seems the prototype of RS MX0110 is out in Sep, which is months earlier than this IC thread...
Jenkins has had "ask me about the Modern M0110" as his reddit tag for like 6 months now so I'd say it's a little harder to gauge who the chicken and who the egg is in this situation - I personally am not bothered by it, this project looks nice and it's going to have an EU proxy, that's enough for me.
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 23 November 2017, 08:28:54
Here's more info on the Red Scarf project: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
seems the prototype of RS MX0110 is out in Sep, which is months earlier than this IC thread...
Jenkins has had "ask me about the Modern M0110" as his reddit tag for like 6 months now so I'd say it's a little harder to gauge who the chicken and who the egg is in this situation - I personally am not bothered by it, this project looks nice and it's going to have an EU proxy, that's enough for me.
Amen on the Eu proxy, as well as not being done through MD. And the stellar red scarf support, if their other boards are to go by. /s
Post by: lanyusea on Thu, 23 November 2017, 08:38:05
Here's more info on the Red Scarf project: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
seems the prototype of RS MX0110 is out in Sep, which is months earlier than this IC thread...
Jenkins has had "ask me about the Modern M0110" as his reddit tag for like 6 months now so I'd say it's a little harder to gauge who the chicken and who the egg is in this situation - I personally am not bothered by it, this project looks nice and it's going to have an EU proxy, that's enough for me.
they are all eggs. Apple is the chicken :p
Post by: ideus on Thu, 23 November 2017, 08:58:35
I know it's not true to the original but a non-HHKB layout option would be amazing.
There are some other projects that target a non-HHKB layout, if what you mean is that they do not feature the corner blockers at the bottom.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 23 November 2017, 16:28:01
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 23 November 2017, 17:51:58
I'm excited to see two different interpretations of this
Agreed. Having two different choices is pretty cool!
Post by: satricion on Thu, 23 November 2017, 22:24:27
Looks like the Modern M0110 has a bit more bezel then the one from Chiphell. For me, the Modern looks cooler, though the might be similar..Here's more info on the Red Scarf project: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
seems the prototype of RS MX0110 is out in Sep, which is months earlier than this IC thread...
I like them both but the one from Chiphell looks like it could be slightly more ergonomic? Do we know anything about this other board?
Post by: ptiede on Thu, 23 November 2017, 22:36:03
Looks like the Modern M0110 has a bit more bezel then the one from Chiphell. For me, the Modern looks cooler, though the might be similar..Here's more info on the Red Scarf project: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
seems the prototype of RS MX0110 is out in Sep, which is months earlier than this IC thread...
I like them both but the one from Chiphell looks like it could be slightly more ergonomic? Do we know anything about this other board?
I'm not sure. In the pictures it looks like the incline on chiphell is equal to the original which I believe >10 degrees which isn't ergonomic at all. Either way I not sure which is more ergo friendly...
Post by: lanyusea on Thu, 23 November 2017, 22:40:29
Looks like the Modern M0110 has a bit more bezel then the one from Chiphell. For me, the Modern looks cooler, though the might be similar..Here's more info on the Red Scarf project: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
seems the prototype of RS MX0110 is out in Sep, which is months earlier than this IC thread...
I like them both but the one from Chiphell looks like it could be slightly more ergonomic? Do we know anything about this other board?
I just talked with RS yesterday about the MX0110 and he told me he has worked on this board for quite a long time, longer than the time since he post the prototype in Chiphell.
He is trying to make a exact replica of Apple 0110 with aluminum so you can see MX0110 uses usb tybe b, which looks similar to a RJ 45, and also 2 hubs.
RS also says the original plan of MX0110 GB was months before but he was too busy so it is delayed.
I asked him about the current plan of GB and he told me `soon`.
In chiphell RS mentioned the price is about 200USD. But it seems not to be the final price.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 24 November 2017, 01:24:39
But hey, it got 2 USB Type A port. Even if those turned out not to be powerful enough for charging devices, just being able to plug my mouse in there would be a win already.
More than one USB ports is exactly what I always wanted more boards to implement, right next to split spacebars.
Post by: aanoi on Tue, 28 November 2017, 19:23:53
Post by: schmoktopus on Wed, 29 November 2017, 14:00:49
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 29 November 2017, 16:26:07
Is there any thread for the other board, the MX0110? Or any source to get updates and information?
Right now all of the info I have gotten has been from the MD comments on the Jukebox project and on this page: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
Post by: janglad on Thu, 30 November 2017, 14:48:33
A couple of updates on the M0110:
We're in talks with the same factory right now about manufacturing a better version of the first proto. They have requoted us and price has increased about $20. Right now we're looking into getting at least 2 more protos, that way we can also make one with ceracoating. Sadly the proto costs are going to the thousands of dollars right now ...
Also, I know I have probably been teasing this for +2 months on Discord and all now, but I will finally be able to put a price on the B60 (still looking for a better name hehe) this weekend. This will be a budget 60% case since I feel like there really isn't a good option right now. Keep your eyes out for this :thumb:
https://i.imgur.com/BGoCbuU.png
Either way I really hope we can launch this as soon as possible and deliver a nice high quality case :D :D
Post by: DJ Shoko on Thu, 30 November 2017, 15:30:33
Post by: Kafka on Thu, 30 November 2017, 18:20:12
Also, most cerakote shops can color match if you bring them a sample
Post by: nguyenhimself on Thu, 30 November 2017, 21:27:33
Hi
A couple of updates on the M0110:
We're in talks with the same factory right now about manufacturing a better version of the first proto. They have requoted us and price has increased about $20. Right now we're looking into getting at least 2 more protos, that way we can also make one with ceracoating. Sadly the proto costs are going to the thousands of dollars right now ...
Also, I know I have probably been teasing this for +2 months on Discord and all now, but I will finally be able to put a price on the B60 (still looking for a better name hehe) this weekend. This will be a budget 60% case since I feel like there really isn't a good option right now. Keep your eyes out for this :thumb:
https://i.imgur.com/BGoCbuU.png
Either way I really hope we can launch this as soon as possible and deliver a nice high quality case :D :D
Good news! BTW, do you have in mind what the color options will be like yet? Now that I typed on a Revo RJ case IRL, I kinda want a black anodized case too 🙂
Post by: WhitePlate on Wed, 06 December 2017, 07:19:19
Similar to this:
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Wed, 06 December 2017, 08:19:25
Would be dope if there was a beige colorway like the original m0110. Something powder coated maybe.
Similar to this:
+1
Post by: Troif on Wed, 06 December 2017, 16:21:53
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Post by: foxlive on Wed, 06 December 2017, 16:36:02
Would be dope if there was a beige colorway like the original m0110. Something powder coated maybe.
Similar to this:
THIS would be dope!
Post by: DJ Shoko on Wed, 06 December 2017, 23:51:11
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 01 January 2018, 08:50:35
Post by: gorauskas on Mon, 01 January 2018, 15:19:45
Post by: emperact on Tue, 02 January 2018, 19:02:13
Post by: janglad on Thu, 04 January 2018, 09:11:16
It has been quite a while since we have updated on this project, sorry for that. Here are the current updates on the project. :thumb:
Manufacturers
We have decided to keep the manufacturer of the first prototype. The proto had its issues, but those were mainly caused by bad instructions given by us. Apart from the bezel not being polished enough and the USB cutout being machined wrong the proto was quite nice, and feedback of people who saw the board at the NorCal meetup was overwhelmingly positive. We are now in talks again with the factory about getting revised cases before Chinese New Year. The factory has sent us this picture of a newly made top piece. It obviously lacks anodisation but shows the way better polishing compared to the first prototype.
(https://i.imgur.com/MGqwQo8.jpg?1)
Finishes
To best fit the stylish/vintage aesthetic of this board and keep the failure rate as low as possible we will be offering a set select finishes for the M0110. The current choices are the following:
- Anodised silver
- Anodised space gray
- Cerakoted beige
- Cerakoated black
Feel free to suggest other options or changes, but consider this list final for now.
Vendors
John has decided to run the GB on his new site, deskcandy.xyz (http://deskcandy.xyz). David and Yuliia from Mykeyboard.eu (http://Mykeyboard.eu) will again provide proxying services to stop those high shipping costs and customs fees for my fellow Europeans. As for now, the plan is to keep it at 2 proxies since Europe and the US are the 2 main regions from which interest was shown, however with enough request more regions could be added to that list ŕ la 9009.
Thank you all for the enormous support thus far, I can genuinely say that everyone working on this project is very excited to bring this board to your desk :).
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 04 January 2018, 09:15:36
Hi everyone!
It has been quite a while since we have updated on this project, sorry for that. Here are the current updates on the project. :thumb:
Manufacturers
We have decided to keep the manufacturer of the first prototype. The proto had its issues, but those were mainly caused by bad instructions given by us. Apart from the bezel not being polished enough and the USB cutout being machined wrong the proto was quite nice, and feedback of people who saw the board at the NorCal meetup was overwhelmingly positive. We are now in talks again with the factory about getting revised cases before Chinese New Year. The factory has sent us this picture of a newly made top piece. It obviously lacks anodisation but shows the way better polishing compared to the first prototype.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MGqwQo8.jpg?1)
Finishes
To best fit the stylish/vintage aesthetic of this board and keep the failure rate as low as possible we will be offering a set select finishes for the M0110. The current choices are the following:
- Anodised silver
- Anodised space gray
- Cerakoted beige
- Cerakoated black
Feel free to suggest other options or changes, but consider this list final for now.
Vendors
John has decided to run the GB on his new site, deskcandy.xyz (http://deskcandy.xyz). David and Yuliia from Mykeyboard.eu (http://Mykeyboard.eu) will again provide proxying services to stop those high shipping costs and customs fees for my fellow Europeans. As for now, the plan is to keep it at 2 proxies since Europe and the US are the 2 main regions from which interest was shown, however with enough request more regions could be added to that list ŕ la 9009.
Thank you all for the enormous support thus far, I can genuinely say that everyone working on this project is very excited to bring this board to your desk :).
Just asking to not re-check the whole thread, is the GB still offering the HHKB verion only, or there will be the 60% top too (what i'm looking for)?
Post by: saucybulgogi on Thu, 04 January 2018, 09:22:13
Definitely in for a cerakote beige one. maybe even a black.....
Post by: janglad on Thu, 04 January 2018, 09:34:31
Hi everyone!
It has been quite a while since we have updated on this project, sorry for that. Here are the current updates on the project. :thumb:
Manufacturers
We have decided to keep the manufacturer of the first prototype. The proto had its issues, but those were mainly caused by bad instructions given by us. Apart from the bezel not being polished enough and the USB cutout being machined wrong the proto was quite nice, and feedback of people who saw the board at the NorCal meetup was overwhelmingly positive. We are now in talks again with the factory about getting revised cases before Chinese New Year. The factory has sent us this picture of a newly made top piece. It obviously lacks anodisation but shows the way better polishing compared to the first prototype.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MGqwQo8.jpg?1)
Finishes
To best fit the stylish/vintage aesthetic of this board and keep the failure rate as low as possible we will be offering a set select finishes for the M0110. The current choices are the following:
- Anodised silver
- Anodised space gray
- Cerakoted beige
- Cerakoated black
Feel free to suggest other options or changes, but consider this list final for now.
Vendors
John has decided to run the GB on his new site, deskcandy.xyz (http://deskcandy.xyz). David and Yuliia from Mykeyboard.eu (http://Mykeyboard.eu) will again provide proxying services to stop those high shipping costs and customs fees for my fellow Europeans. As for now, the plan is to keep it at 2 proxies since Europe and the US are the 2 main regions from which interest was shown, however with enough request more regions could be added to that list ŕ la 9009.
Thank you all for the enormous support thus far, I can genuinely say that everyone working on this project is very excited to bring this board to your desk :).
Just asking to not re-check the whole thread, is the GB still offering the HHKB verion only, or there will be the 60% top too (what i'm looking for)?
To be honest, there has been close to no request for a normal 60% layout. The layout with blockers just is a lot more popular and the original M0110 obviously also had blockers. So no, as of now there are no plans to have a non blocked version.
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 04 January 2018, 09:38:01
Hi everyone!
It has been quite a while since we have updated on this project, sorry for that. Here are the current updates on the project. :thumb:
Manufacturers
We have decided to keep the manufacturer of the first prototype. The proto had its issues, but those were mainly caused by bad instructions given by us. Apart from the bezel not being polished enough and the USB cutout being machined wrong the proto was quite nice, and feedback of people who saw the board at the NorCal meetup was overwhelmingly positive. We are now in talks again with the factory about getting revised cases before Chinese New Year. The factory has sent us this picture of a newly made top piece. It obviously lacks anodisation but shows the way better polishing compared to the first prototype.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MGqwQo8.jpg?1)
Finishes
To best fit the stylish/vintage aesthetic of this board and keep the failure rate as low as possible we will be offering a set select finishes for the M0110. The current choices are the following:
- Anodised silver
- Anodised space gray
- Cerakoted beige
- Cerakoated black
Feel free to suggest other options or changes, but consider this list final for now.
Vendors
John has decided to run the GB on his new site, deskcandy.xyz (http://deskcandy.xyz). David and Yuliia from Mykeyboard.eu (http://Mykeyboard.eu) will again provide proxying services to stop those high shipping costs and customs fees for my fellow Europeans. As for now, the plan is to keep it at 2 proxies since Europe and the US are the 2 main regions from which interest was shown, however with enough request more regions could be added to that list ŕ la 9009.
Thank you all for the enormous support thus far, I can genuinely say that everyone working on this project is very excited to bring this board to your desk :).
Just asking to not re-check the whole thread, is the GB still offering the HHKB verion only, or there will be the 60% top too (what i'm looking for)?
To be honest, there has been close to no request for a normal 60% layout. The layout with blockers just is a lot more popular and the original M0110 obviously also had blockers. So no, as of now there are no plans to have a non blocked version.
I would say, it looks better with blockers (aesthetically speaking) but the standard 60% is still A LOT more popular. Hope you change mind on this :D
Post by: janglad on Thu, 04 January 2018, 09:40:10
Hi everyone!
It has been quite a while since we have updated on this project, sorry for that. Here are the current updates on the project. :thumb:
Manufacturers
We have decided to keep the manufacturer of the first prototype. The proto had its issues, but those were mainly caused by bad instructions given by us. Apart from the bezel not being polished enough and the USB cutout being machined wrong the proto was quite nice, and feedback of people who saw the board at the NorCal meetup was overwhelmingly positive. We are now in talks again with the factory about getting revised cases before Chinese New Year. The factory has sent us this picture of a newly made top piece. It obviously lacks anodisation but shows the way better polishing compared to the first prototype.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MGqwQo8.jpg?1)
Finishes
To best fit the stylish/vintage aesthetic of this board and keep the failure rate as low as possible we will be offering a set select finishes for the M0110. The current choices are the following:
- Anodised silver
- Anodised space gray
- Cerakoted beige
- Cerakoated black
Feel free to suggest other options or changes, but consider this list final for now.
Vendors
John has decided to run the GB on his new site, deskcandy.xyz (http://deskcandy.xyz). David and Yuliia from Mykeyboard.eu (http://Mykeyboard.eu) will again provide proxying services to stop those high shipping costs and customs fees for my fellow Europeans. As for now, the plan is to keep it at 2 proxies since Europe and the US are the 2 main regions from which interest was shown, however with enough request more regions could be added to that list ŕ la 9009.
Thank you all for the enormous support thus far, I can genuinely say that everyone working on this project is very excited to bring this board to your desk :).
Just asking to not re-check the whole thread, is the GB still offering the HHKB verion only, or there will be the 60% top too (what i'm looking for)?
To be honest, there has been close to no request for a normal 60% layout. The layout with blockers just is a lot more popular and the original M0110 obviously also had blockers. So no, as of now there are no plans to have a non blocked version.
I would say, it looks better with blockers (aesthetically speaking) but the standard 60% is still A LOT more popular. Hope you change mind on this :D
Ooh I'm sure it is more widely used, but I don't think it's more popular when it comes to custom boards at all. The vast popularity of the Duck Viper over the Duck Eagle is a good example of this, they're the exact same board except for the fact that the Viper has blockers.
Post by: hhkbp2 on Thu, 04 January 2018, 09:44:40
Is there any chance to have local proxy servicing for China? It will be much faster for us Chinese buyers to put our hands on the products if they're delivered locally.
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 04 January 2018, 09:50:00
Hi everyone!
It has been quite a while since we have updated on this project, sorry for that. Here are the current updates on the project. :thumb:
Manufacturers
We have decided to keep the manufacturer of the first prototype. The proto had its issues, but those were mainly caused by bad instructions given by us. Apart from the bezel not being polished enough and the USB cutout being machined wrong the proto was quite nice, and feedback of people who saw the board at the NorCal meetup was overwhelmingly positive. We are now in talks again with the factory about getting revised cases before Chinese New Year. The factory has sent us this picture of a newly made top piece. It obviously lacks anodisation but shows the way better polishing compared to the first prototype.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MGqwQo8.jpg?1)
Finishes
To best fit the stylish/vintage aesthetic of this board and keep the failure rate as low as possible we will be offering a set select finishes for the M0110. The current choices are the following:
- Anodised silver
- Anodised space gray
- Cerakoted beige
- Cerakoated black
Feel free to suggest other options or changes, but consider this list final for now.
Vendors
John has decided to run the GB on his new site, deskcandy.xyz (http://deskcandy.xyz). David and Yuliia from Mykeyboard.eu (http://Mykeyboard.eu) will again provide proxying services to stop those high shipping costs and customs fees for my fellow Europeans. As for now, the plan is to keep it at 2 proxies since Europe and the US are the 2 main regions from which interest was shown, however with enough request more regions could be added to that list ŕ la 9009.
Thank you all for the enormous support thus far, I can genuinely say that everyone working on this project is very excited to bring this board to your desk :).
Just asking to not re-check the whole thread, is the GB still offering the HHKB verion only, or there will be the 60% top too (what i'm looking for)?
To be honest, there has been close to no request for a normal 60% layout. The layout with blockers just is a lot more popular and the original M0110 obviously also had blockers. So no, as of now there are no plans to have a non blocked version.
I would say, it looks better with blockers (aesthetically speaking) but the standard 60% is still A LOT more popular. Hope you change mind on this :D
Ooh I'm sure it is more widely used, but I don't think it's more popular when it comes to custom boards at all. The vast popularity of the Duck Viper over the Duck Eagle is a good example of this, they're the exact same board except for the fact that the Viper has blockers.
Yeah make sense, unfortunately :(
Post by: janglad on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:01:27
Really excited to see the update. Hope there will be pictures of the final sample with different finishes/colors soon.
Is there any chance to have local proxy servicing for China? It will be much faster for us Chinese buyers to put our hands on the products if they're delivered locally.
If we were to go with an Asian proxy which one would you suggest?
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:08:31
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:10:22
Post by: janglad on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:24:04
Yea I'd love to see the finished project for the Cerakote, and whilst on the subject - how much more expensive is that gonna be vs standard anodising?
That we don't know yet. There also is a logistical issue with getting it cera'd locally but having proxies. Say we were to just use a shop in the US and someone from Europe orders a board with Cera, the board would need to go from China to the US to Europe. A solution we're currently looking into is getting the US orders finished in the US and EU orders finished in the EU. There is a shop that does cera very close to Mykeyboard.eu HQ but it's aimed at doing hobby stuff like grips of an airsoft gun and such, so I'm not sure how much of a reduction in cost a bulk order would be. Also if we do decide to get it done in different places we obviously will have to make sure that the result from both is the same. My Moon TKL got slightly damaged during shipment (I didn't get it from the GB) and I'm planning on getting it refinished in the local Cera shop to see what the quality is like :)
Post by: janglad on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:25:13
I am happy to see this moving forward, and I am very pleased with the option of beige Cerakote . Hopefully I hope you can have a prototype finished in cerakote so that we can see how the seams and edges turn out. I cannot join this group by without seeing it first. Thanks again for bringing this iconic look to us in beige :thumb:
John is getting an unfinished prototype so he can get it cerakoted so we can see what it's like :)
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 04 January 2018, 11:15:31
Really excited to see the update. Hope there will be pictures of the final sample with different finishes/colors soon.
Is there any chance to have local proxy servicing for China? It will be much faster for us Chinese buyers to put our hands on the products if they're delivered locally.
If we were to go with an Asian proxy which one would you suggest?
Most uses zF because it's reliable in GBs.
Otherwise you could checkout kbdfans, he never did proxies but might be a start :D
Post by: adamcobabe on Thu, 04 January 2018, 11:15:53
Post by: Troif on Thu, 04 January 2018, 12:28:33
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Post by: jrfhoutx on Thu, 04 January 2018, 17:06:23
Any plans to do the numpad?
Yeah, this definitely needs a Modern M0120 to go with it...
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 04 January 2018, 18:51:42
Post by: hhkbp2 on Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:24:26
Really excited to see the update. Hope there will be pictures of the final sample with different finishes/colors soon.
Is there any chance to have local proxy servicing for China? It will be much faster for us Chinese buyers to put our hands on the products if they're delivered locally.
If we were to go with an Asian proxy which one would you suggest?
Zfrontier, in China. They run international GBs of keyboard kits/keysets and do the proxy servicing as well. Please let me know if you need help to talk to them.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:33:26
Really excited to see the update. Hope there will be pictures of the final sample with different finishes/colors soon.
Is there any chance to have local proxy servicing for China? It will be much faster for us Chinese buyers to put our hands on the products if they're delivered locally.
If we were to go with an Asian proxy which one would you suggest?
Zfrontier, in China. They run international GBs of keyboard kits/keysets and do the proxy servicing as well. Please let me know if you need help to talk to them.
Yeah, Zfrontier is pretty swell. Also, up until now, they've been offering free shipping for >$100 orders, i believe.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:35:43
Post by: sK0pe on Fri, 05 January 2018, 09:35:24
Space grey anodised would be pretty great.
Post by: r4wromg on Fri, 05 January 2018, 11:09:58
Somehow I've never heard of "Cerakoated black" before, and searching for that term just gives me a bunch of gun photos? What's the color like?
Cerakote is a durable ceramic coating typically applied to firearms. The color would be similar to the finish on the guns that show up in the search. IIRC, Cerakote offers a few different shades of black (Graphite black, Glacier black, Jet black, etc.) so the exact color/finish depends on what option is chosen.
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 05 January 2018, 11:54:49
Post by: sK0pe on Fri, 05 January 2018, 12:20:03
Post by: gorauskas on Fri, 05 January 2018, 14:32:28
Post by: xondat on Fri, 05 January 2018, 15:04:27
Is this generally available yet? if not then when?
No, read this update. Likely after CNY things will pick up pace as they're getting new samples.
Hi everyone!
Post by: gorauskas on Fri, 05 January 2018, 15:12:17
Is this generally available yet? if not then when?
No, read this update. Likely after CNY things will pick up pace as they're getting new samples.Hi everyone!
Thank you for pointing that out! Lots of activity here all of a sudden and I didn't get that far down. ;)
Post by: QobbAlt on Sat, 06 January 2018, 20:46:28
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 06 January 2018, 21:17:39
Post by: adamcobabe on Sun, 07 January 2018, 10:28:36
Post by: Puree on Sun, 07 January 2018, 16:59:04
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Sun, 07 January 2018, 18:31:09
No logo in bottom left for my tastes.
+1, that's what we were thinking too. Norbauer wrote something about how he originally had a logo on his cases and dropped it because we don't really need logos on our ultra high end keyboard cases :D
The new prototypes are ordered and should receive them in 1-2 weeks, once that happens will get pics and then hopefully cerakote one of them in a beige color to test that out.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 07 January 2018, 18:35:58
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 07 January 2018, 20:12:29
I really like the idea of having a logo, it feels more in spirit of it's inspiration and sets it apart from other Mac/HHKB lookalike 60s I see
Agree with this. Something small, maybe like a spin off of the apple logo.
Post by: OracleKev on Sun, 07 January 2018, 20:54:19
No logo in bottom left for my tastes.
+1, that's what we were thinking too. Norbauer wrote something about how he originally had a logo on his cases and dropped it because we don't really need logos on our ultra high end keyboard cases :D
The new prototypes are ordered and should receive them in 1-2 weeks, once that happens will get pics and then hopefully cerakote one of them in a beige color to test that out.
+1
Pls no logo. It's hard to get it right.
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 07 January 2018, 21:52:04
No logo in bottom left for my tastes.
+1, that's what we were thinking too. Norbauer wrote something about how he originally had a logo on his cases and dropped it because we don't really need logos on our ultra high end keyboard cases :D
The new prototypes are ordered and should receive them in 1-2 weeks, once that happens will get pics and then hopefully cerakote one of them in a beige color to test that out.
+1
Pls no logo. It's hard to get it right.
Yeah, please NO LOGO!
That kills it for me.
No offense, but I love clean logo-less boards.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 07 January 2018, 22:18:21
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 07 January 2018, 23:59:28
Even just a small square empty recess or frame where the apple would go on the Aplle M0110, then I could put my own label or anything I wanted and still have it recessed. This isn't just another 60%, this is an homage to the original, and that logo is totally a part of the original. I hope that it is a very conscious decision if a nod that design element gets removed. My hope is that it will not in some form.
Yes, it's an homage... it doesn't have to be the same. It also has Modern in the name. It looks sooo much nicer without a logo. Maybe you could get your logo laser engraved? lol
Either way though, i much prefer the look without a logo.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 08 January 2018, 00:16:44
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 08 January 2018, 01:45:16
Even just a small square empty recess or frame where the apple would go on the Aplle M0110, then I could put my own label or anything I wanted and still have it recessed. This isn't just another 60%, this is an homage to the original, and that logo is totally a part of the original. I hope that it is a very conscious decision if a nod that design element gets removed. My hope is that it will not in some form.
Yes, it's an homage... it doesn't have to be the same. It also has Modern in the name. It looks sooo much nicer without a logo. Maybe you could get your logo laser engraved? lol
Either way though, i much prefer the look without a logo.
That's actually a pretty good Idea, Maybe I could pay extra for the creator to have it laser engraved and have a special edition case. I'll have to PM him down the road and see
Post by: neralo on Mon, 08 January 2018, 03:10:54
Also +1 for Asia/SEA proxy.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 09 January 2018, 08:00:58
Another exciting update!
(https://i.imgur.com/Lmggq83.jpg)
As you can see, the revised prototypes are fully machined. Bead blasting and anodising (just for one, other will be cerakoted ;) ) is probably happening as we speak. We are getting quotes and protos for the brass plates too!
This is getting really close to GB stage now. I will make sure that all needed logistical work is done ASAP so that we could launch the GB when the prototypes arrive and are evaluated!
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 09 January 2018, 08:16:43
Hey guys!
Another exciting update!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lmggq83.jpg)
As you can see, the revised prototypes are fully machined. Bead blasting and anodising (just for one, other will be cerakoted ;) ) is probably happening as we speak. We are getting quotes and protos for the brass plates too!
This is getting really close to GB stage now. I will make sure that all needed logistical work is done ASAP so that we could launch the GB when the prototypes arrive and are evaluated!
You just made my Tuesday. :p
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 09 January 2018, 08:49:12
Hey guys!
Another exciting update!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lmggq83.jpg)
As you can see, the revised prototypes are fully machined. Bead blasting and anodising (just for one, other will be cerakoted ;) ) is probably happening as we speak. We are getting quotes and protos for the brass plates too!
This is getting really close to GB stage now. I will make sure that all needed logistical work is done ASAP so that we could launch the GB when the prototypes arrive and are evaluated!
Ooh =] Looking forward to seeing the cerakoting!
Post by: Fluffypupper22 on Tue, 09 January 2018, 10:31:05
Hey guys!
Another exciting update!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lmggq83.jpg)
As you can see, the revised prototypes are fully machined. Bead blasting and anodising (just for one, other will be cerakoted ;) ) is probably happening as we speak. We are getting quotes and protos for the brass plates too!
This is getting really close to GB stage now. I will make sure that all needed logistical work is done ASAP so that we could launch the GB when the prototypes arrive and are evaluated!
You just made my Tuesday. :p
They are beautiful! Do you plan on selling an entire kit or will this GB just be for the case?
Post by: janglad on Tue, 09 January 2018, 10:34:34
It will be for the case + plate. There are plenty of 60% pcbs out there, including one would make for unnecessary extra complexity and limit choice for the people building their boards :)Hey guys!
Another exciting update!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lmggq83.jpg)
As you can see, the revised prototypes are fully machined. Bead blasting and anodising (just for one, other will be cerakoted ;) ) is probably happening as we speak. We are getting quotes and protos for the brass plates too!
This is getting really close to GB stage now. I will make sure that all needed logistical work is done ASAP so that we could launch the GB when the prototypes arrive and are evaluated!
You just made my Tuesday. :p
They are beautiful! Do you plan on selling an entire kit or will this GB just be for the case?
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Post by: Fluffypupper22 on Tue, 09 January 2018, 10:42:54
Cool. I'm really looking forward to this case. Have a good one!It will be for the case + plate. There are plenty of 60% pcbs out there, including one would make for unnecessary extra complexity and limit choice for the people building their boards :)Hey guys!
Another exciting update!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lmggq83.jpg)
As you can see, the revised prototypes are fully machined. Bead blasting and anodising (just for one, other will be cerakoted ;) ) is probably happening as we speak. We are getting quotes and protos for the brass plates too!
This is getting really close to GB stage now. I will make sure that all needed logistical work is done ASAP so that we could launch the GB when the prototypes arrive and are evaluated!
You just made my Tuesday. :p
They are beautiful! Do you plan on selling an entire kit or will this GB just be for the case?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: energyd on Wed, 10 January 2018, 22:40:58
It will be for the case + plate. There are plenty of 60% pcbs out there, including one would make for unnecessary extra complexity and limit choice for the people building their boards :)Hey guys!
Another exciting update!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lmggq83.jpg)
As you can see, the revised prototypes are fully machined. Bead blasting and anodising (just for one, other will be cerakoted ;) ) is probably happening as we speak. We are getting quotes and protos for the brass plates too!
This is getting really close to GB stage now. I will make sure that all needed logistical work is done ASAP so that we could launch the GB when the prototypes arrive and are evaluated!
You just made my Tuesday. :p
They are beautiful! Do you plan on selling an entire kit or will this GB just be for the case?
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Just to make sure, could I just drop in my already built Zeal60 + pcb into the M0110 case?
Post by: heavyheaded on Wed, 10 January 2018, 23:02:29
Post by: nguyenhimself on Thu, 11 January 2018, 06:57:59
I have no idea what is the size of the original M0110's spacebar.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 11 January 2018, 07:15:46
Just want to confirm, the plate and case are optimized for the HHKB layout with a 7u spacebar, right?
I have no idea what is the size of the original M0110's spacebar.
I think the original spacebar is 7.5u
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_M0110
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Tue, 16 January 2018, 10:39:42
It will be for the case + plate. There are plenty of 60% pcbs out there, including one would make for unnecessary extra complexity and limit choice for the people building their boards :)Hey guys!
Another exciting update!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lmggq83.jpg)
As you can see, the revised prototypes are fully machined. Bead blasting and anodising (just for one, other will be cerakoted ;) ) is probably happening as we speak. We are getting quotes and protos for the brass plates too!
This is getting really close to GB stage now. I will make sure that all needed logistical work is done ASAP so that we could launch the GB when the prototypes arrive and are evaluated!
You just made my Tuesday. :p
They are beautiful! Do you plan on selling an entire kit or will this GB just be for the case?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Just to make sure, could I just drop in my already built Zeal60 + pcb into the M0110 case?
heavyheaded is right, because standard 60% tray mount plates won't be compatible with the M0110 case you will have to desolder and rebuild the keyboard with M0110's plate. Any standard 60% PCB like Zeal60, XD60, DZ60, GH60, etc. will work so you could always just buy another PCB ;)
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Tue, 16 January 2018, 10:43:06
Just want to confirm, the plate and case are optimized for the HHKB layout with a 7u spacebar, right?
I have no idea what is the size of the original M0110's spacebar.
Yep exactly. While the physical dimensions of the case itself are almost an exact match to the original M0110 (with the exception of us lowering the case angle to be more comfortable to type on), the layout is a 7u spacebar MX HHKB style, just like Duck Viper or KBDFans Tina-C. Bottom row is like this:
1.5u blocker - 1u - 1.5u - 7u spacebar - 1.5u - 1u - 1.5u blocker
If you want to try and fit other layouts within the keyboard's frame, we will be open sourcing the plate design if you want to cut your own plate and hardwire or try some crazy other layout if your 60% PCB allows it.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 16 January 2018, 19:42:09
Just want to confirm, the plate and case are optimized for the HHKB layout with a 7u spacebar, right?
I have no idea what is the size of the original M0110's spacebar.
Yep exactly. While the physical dimensions of the case itself are almost an exact match to the original M0110 (with the exception of us lowering the case angle to be more comfortable to type on), the layout is a 7u spacebar MX HHKB style, just like Duck Viper or KBDFans Tina-C. Bottom row is like this:
1.5u blocker - 1u - 1.5u - 7u spacebar - 1.5u - 1u - 1.5u blocker
If you want to try and fit other layouts within the keyboard's frame, we will be open sourcing the plate design if you want to cut your own plate and hardwire or try some crazy other layout if your 60% PCB allows it.
That's good to hear, because I have this funny HHKB-with-split-spacebars-and-arrow-keys layout that I've been wanting to try building for a little while, using the DZ60 PCB and the Tina-C's plate. All I'm waiting for is a case I'm satisfied with. Cue this thread 🙂
(https://i.imgur.com/XSNLbA4.png)
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Wed, 17 January 2018, 10:17:31
Just want to confirm, the plate and case are optimized for the HHKB layout with a 7u spacebar, right?
I have no idea what is the size of the original M0110's spacebar.
Yep exactly. While the physical dimensions of the case itself are almost an exact match to the original M0110 (with the exception of us lowering the case angle to be more comfortable to type on), the layout is a 7u spacebar MX HHKB style, just like Duck Viper or KBDFans Tina-C. Bottom row is like this:
1.5u blocker - 1u - 1.5u - 7u spacebar - 1.5u - 1u - 1.5u blocker
If you want to try and fit other layouts within the keyboard's frame, we will be open sourcing the plate design if you want to cut your own plate and hardwire or try some crazy other layout if your 60% PCB allows it.
That's good to hear, because I have this funny HHKB-with-split-spacebars-and-arrow-keys layout that I've been wanting to try building for a little while, using the DZ60 PCB and the Tina-C's plate. All I'm waiting for is a case I'm satisfied with. Cue this thread 🙂Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XSNLbA4.png)
Go for it :) Tina-C plate won't fit this case though, as the Modern M0110 will have a plate that is mounted around its perimeter to the top part of the case assembly instead of to the 6 poker style posts. So if you want to achieve that layout with this case and DZ60, you will need to cut your own custom plate--that can be tricky in steel but there are some folks like /u/jolimon who can cut you a plate from 3mm acrylic that will suit your needs and isn't crazy expensive for single custom plates.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 17 January 2018, 20:22:45
Just want to confirm, the plate and case are optimized for the HHKB layout with a 7u spacebar, right?
I have no idea what is the size of the original M0110's spacebar.
Yep exactly. While the physical dimensions of the case itself are almost an exact match to the original M0110 (with the exception of us lowering the case angle to be more comfortable to type on), the layout is a 7u spacebar MX HHKB style, just like Duck Viper or KBDFans Tina-C. Bottom row is like this:
1.5u blocker - 1u - 1.5u - 7u spacebar - 1.5u - 1u - 1.5u blocker
If you want to try and fit other layouts within the keyboard's frame, we will be open sourcing the plate design if you want to cut your own plate and hardwire or try some crazy other layout if your 60% PCB allows it.
That's good to hear, because I have this funny HHKB-with-split-spacebars-and-arrow-keys layout that I've been wanting to try building for a little while, using the DZ60 PCB and the Tina-C's plate. All I'm waiting for is a case I'm satisfied with. Cue this thread 🙂Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XSNLbA4.png)
Go for it :) Tina-C plate won't fit this case though, as the Modern M0110 will have a plate that is mounted around its perimeter to the top part of the case assembly instead of to the 6 poker style posts. So if you want to achieve that layout with this case and DZ60, you will need to cut your own custom plate--that can be tricky in steel but there are some folks like /u/jolimon who can cut you a plate from 3mm acrylic that will suit your needs and isn't crazy expensive for single custom plates.
Ah ****, forgot about that. It will be something like this, right?
(http://i.imgur.com/T2wcDYD.jpg)
Some thinking required here. i can't live without arrow keys (Tried, failed, gave up).
Post by: pvd on Thu, 18 January 2018, 10:52:56
Post by: Slippery_John on Fri, 19 January 2018, 11:23:19
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Fri, 19 January 2018, 11:36:53
Just want to confirm, the plate and case are optimized for the HHKB layout with a 7u spacebar, right?
I have no idea what is the size of the original M0110's spacebar.
Yep exactly. While the physical dimensions of the case itself are almost an exact match to the original M0110 (with the exception of us lowering the case angle to be more comfortable to type on), the layout is a 7u spacebar MX HHKB style, just like Duck Viper or KBDFans Tina-C. Bottom row is like this:
1.5u blocker - 1u - 1.5u - 7u spacebar - 1.5u - 1u - 1.5u blocker
If you want to try and fit other layouts within the keyboard's frame, we will be open sourcing the plate design if you want to cut your own plate and hardwire or try some crazy other layout if your 60% PCB allows it.
That's good to hear, because I have this funny HHKB-with-split-spacebars-and-arrow-keys layout that I've been wanting to try building for a little while, using the DZ60 PCB and the Tina-C's plate. All I'm waiting for is a case I'm satisfied with. Cue this thread 🙂Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XSNLbA4.png)
Go for it :) Tina-C plate won't fit this case though, as the Modern M0110 will have a plate that is mounted around its perimeter to the top part of the case assembly instead of to the 6 poker style posts. So if you want to achieve that layout with this case and DZ60, you will need to cut your own custom plate--that can be tricky in steel but there are some folks like /u/jolimon who can cut you a plate from 3mm acrylic that will suit your needs and isn't crazy expensive for single custom plates.
Ah ****, forgot about that. It will be something like this, right?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/T2wcDYD.jpg)
Some thinking required here. i can't live without arrow keys (Tried, failed, gave up).
Yep it's something like this. I'll try to get some good pics of the interior so you can see what I mean as well. Thanks!
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Fri, 19 January 2018, 11:37:33
Can you confirm that different 60% pcbs fit the board? Looking at the prototype, the hole for the USB seems very snug, and in my experience pcbs can have a few mm of left-right variance in where the USB port is mounted. I'm specifically thinking of the DZ60, since that's the PCB I want to use.
Haven't yet tried USB-C cutouts but GH60 PCBs with mini USB connectors should work generally.
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Fri, 19 January 2018, 11:43:54
Inside top of case (hopefully not very yellowed from the years). Going from left to right we have: "light sand" H-142, "benelli sand" H-143, "brown sand" H-30372, "federal standard sabre sand" H-33446, and "desert sand" H-199.
(https://imgur.com/kEAi2gM.jpg)
Same deal with inside bottom of case.
(https://imgur.com/HAtb19E.jpg)
Light sand (top) and benelli sand (bottom) on inside bottom of case
(https://i.imgur.com/G54qmIH.jpg)
Light sand (top) and benelli sand (bottom) on bottom of the case
(https://i.imgur.com/VaZhspq.jpg)
What do you think?
IMO benelli sand is a bit closer to the original, but edges on the darker side and may not work as well as light sand for matching modern keysets.
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Fri, 19 January 2018, 11:53:03
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Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 19 January 2018, 14:06:48
Post by: schmoktopus on Fri, 19 January 2018, 14:24:26
Off-topic: Does anyone know what is going on with the other m0110 project? I know that there was a second prototype months ago but i haven't heard from that since then. I think it was called the mx0110 from redscarf.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 19 January 2018, 14:45:17
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 19 January 2018, 14:56:23
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Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 19 January 2018, 16:29:55
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 19 January 2018, 16:47:59
light sand as well for me.
Off-topic: Does anyone know what is going on with the other m0110 project? I know that there was a second prototype months ago but i haven't heard from that since then. I think it was called the mx0110 from redscarf.
Hmm..didn't even know about it. Do you have a link?
Post by: heavyheaded on Fri, 19 January 2018, 17:09:44
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 19 January 2018, 17:19:49
light sand as well for me.
Off-topic: Does anyone know what is going on with the other m0110 project? I know that there was a second prototype months ago but i haven't heard from that since then. I think it was called the mx0110 from redscarf.
Hmm..didn't even know about it. Do you have a link?
https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
It isn't in english
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 19 January 2018, 17:33:17
light sand as well for me.
Off-topic: Does anyone know what is going on with the other m0110 project? I know that there was a second prototype months ago but i haven't heard from that since then. I think it was called the mx0110 from redscarf.
Hmm..didn't even know about it. Do you have a link?
https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
It isn't in english
Awesome, thanks. I love how that one has a usb hub built in.
Post by: WarmCat on Fri, 19 January 2018, 18:56:05
Watching this with anticipation.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 19 January 2018, 20:34:42
- Oh, that's a pretty nice keyboard you got there. What's color is that, beige?
- Yeah, it's the "federal standard sabre sand" beige :cool:
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Post by: vewy_nice on Mon, 22 January 2018, 08:17:10
I'm stickin' around for this one, I want that cerakote!
And, the RedScarf one is at the original angle, which is absurd.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open
I like the light sand, as well.
Post by: KaosJ on Mon, 22 January 2018, 08:32:28
Well the RedScarf one just launched on Massdrop...
I'm stickin' around for this one, I want that cerakote!
And, the RedScarf one is at the original angle, which is absurd.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open
I like the light sand, as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/csJ64P7.png)
Post by: janglad on Mon, 22 January 2018, 08:34:21
Well the RedScarf one just launched on Massdrop...
I'm stickin' around for this one, I want that cerakote!
And, the RedScarf one is at the original angle, which is absurd.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open
I like the light sand, as well.
OK, I know I can't be unbiased about this topic but I just want to say what I think about it.
First of all the USB hub is a cool idea for sure! Just makes it more complicated and makes using standard PCBs a bit of a mess, still cool idea and gives it an extra vintage touch!
But than that angle ooh booyyy.... Seems like 14 degree-ish? Weird thing is they made it thinner to seemingly make it more ergonomic, but then why keep the high angle? Now it just looks weird since by making it thinner they also threw it out of proportion.
Also, tray mount and the huuuugee gaps/tollerances around the keys for that price, IDK.
Anyways, bit of a rant right here, obviously if you like it got and get it! I guess I'm just kinda proud we will deliver an (IMO) way nicer product for the same price hehe ;)
Post by: janglad on Mon, 22 January 2018, 08:37:51
Well the RedScarf one just launched on Massdrop...
I'm stickin' around for this one, I want that cerakote!
And, the RedScarf one is at the original angle, which is absurd.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open
I like the light sand, as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/csJ64P7.png)
Just FYI, the original IC was actually launched for this 5 months ago by John:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ryyve/photos_introducing_the_modern0110_project/
However I don't want to go out there and say they copied us. So no pitchforks please, most likely just a coincidence. Even if, it's not like we (or RS for that matter) own the M0110 design :)
Quality meme nonetheless ;)
Post by: N3RDLY on Mon, 22 January 2018, 08:41:01
Well the RedScarf one just launched on Massdrop...
I'm stickin' around for this one, I want that cerakote!
And, the RedScarf one is at the original angle, which is absurd.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open)
I like the light sand, as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/csJ64P7.png)
Massdrop really does have the WORST timing ever....
Post by: KaosJ on Mon, 22 January 2018, 08:45:53
Well the RedScarf one just launched on Massdrop...
I'm stickin' around for this one, I want that cerakote!
And, the RedScarf one is at the original angle, which is absurd.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open
I like the light sand, as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/csJ64P7.png)
Just FYI, the original IC was actually launched for this 5 months ago by John:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ryyve/photos_introducing_the_modern0110_project/
However I don't want to go out there and say they copied us. So no pitchforks please, most likely just a coincidence. Even if, it's not like we (or RS for that matter) own the M0110 design :)
Quality meme nonetheless ;)
Yeah that's just a strange timing for RS, your IC is a cooperation with John right?
Post by: janglad on Mon, 22 January 2018, 08:47:13
Well the RedScarf one just launched on Massdrop...
I'm stickin' around for this one, I want that cerakote!
And, the RedScarf one is at the original angle, which is absurd.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open
I like the light sand, as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/csJ64P7.png)
Just FYI, the original IC was actually launched for this 5 months ago by John:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ryyve/photos_introducing_the_modern0110_project/
However I don't want to go out there and say they copied us. So no pitchforks please, most likely just a coincidence. Even if, it's not like we (or RS for that matter) own the M0110 design :)
Quality meme nonetheless ;)
Yeah that's just a strange timing for RS, your IC is a cooperation with John right?
Yes we are actively working together on this! :) He is chicagoboss25 on here.
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 22 January 2018, 09:07:27
Just FYI, the original IC was actually launched for this 5 months ago by John:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ryyve/photos_introducing_the_modern0110_project/
However I don't want to go out there and say they copied us. So no pitchforks please, most likely just a coincidence. Even if, it's not like we (or RS for that matter) own the M0110 design :)
Quality meme nonetheless ;)
Not to be that guy but I believe there was a post by RS or someone else on a Chinese (?) website that dates fairly far back too (to like September afaik?). That said their timing is still very poor and there are obvious issues with their design; I will stand by yours for those and others. The only cool thing about the MX0110 is the USB-B, though I imagine anyone else that doesn't own like 10 USB-B cables for their DACs and audio interfaces like I do won't really be amused by it.
PS: obviously I don't think anyone copied anyone else here, was just stating - RS is a pretty reputable company and if they did copy the design still, I doubt it'll hardly impact anyone's numbers when this buy here happens.
Post by: vewy_nice on Mon, 22 January 2018, 09:39:58
But there are also a lot of good people here that are much more informed about this project, and will probably choose this option over the RS.
I've been buying a lot of expensive keyboards lately... It's probably time to start trimming the fat...
A CA66 and an aluminum M0110 will make a great pair on my desk ;)
Post by: lanyusea on Mon, 22 January 2018, 10:21:43
Just FYI, the original IC was actually launched for this 5 months ago by John:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ryyve/photos_introducing_the_modern0110_project/
However I don't want to go out there and say they copied us. So no pitchforks please, most likely just a coincidence. Even if, it's not like we (or RS for that matter) own the M0110 design :)
Quality meme nonetheless ;)
Not to be that guy but I believe there was a post by RS or someone else on a Chinese (?) website that dates fairly far back too (to like September afaik?). That said their timing is still very poor and there are obvious issues with their design; I will stand by yours for those and others. The only cool thing about the MX0110 is the USB-B, though I imagine anyone else that doesn't own like 10 USB-B cables for their DACs and audio interfaces like I do won't really be amused by it.
PS: obviously I don't think anyone copied anyone else here, was just stating - RS is a pretty reputable company and if they did copy the design still, I doubt it'll hardly impact anyone's numbers when this buy here happens.
Yes September: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
I know RS in person. Actually he starts the MX0110 project much earlier. (Only few Chinese GB runners wants to IC before GB.)
Though the posted of M0110 rendering in a month earlier, it is said as 'First render of the top face design.' following by some future goals. So I don't think RS did a copy or something by guessing all details from a top face renderings and then finish the anodized prototype with finished PCB in one month.
At least the design is not some 'new inventation', it is inspired by the existing 0110.
Post by: hhkbp2 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 10:36:18
Just FYI, the original IC was actually launched for this 5 months ago by John:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ryyve/photos_introducing_the_modern0110_project/
However I don't want to go out there and say they copied us. So no pitchforks please, most likely just a coincidence. Even if, it's not like we (or RS for that matter) own the M0110 design :)
Quality meme nonetheless ;)
Not to be that guy but I believe there was a post by RS or someone else on a Chinese (?) website that dates fairly far back too (to like September afaik?). That said their timing is still very poor and there are obvious issues with their design; I will stand by yours for those and others. The only cool thing about the MX0110 is the USB-B, though I imagine anyone else that doesn't own like 10 USB-B cables for their DACs and audio interfaces like I do won't really be amused by it.
PS: obviously I don't think anyone copied anyone else here, was just stating - RS is a pretty reputable company and if they did copy the design still, I doubt it'll hardly impact anyone's numbers when this buy here happens.
Yes September: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1776866-1-1.html
I know RS in person. Actually he starts the MX0110 project much earlier. (Only few Chinese GB runners wants to IC before GB.)
Though the posted of M0110 rendering in a month earlier, it is said as 'First render of the top face design.' following by some future goals. So I don't think RS did a copy or something by guessing all details from a top face renderings and then finish the anodized prototype with finished PCB in one month.
At least the design is not some 'new inventation', it is inspired by the existing 0110.
Fair point. All the designs inspired by the same Apple old keyboard: Retro60, RS MX0110, M0110 of this thread, they are so different indeed, and each started from a different time(obviously it's not who comes first owns the design exclusively). I don't think anyone copy anyone else here.
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 10:46:59
For those curious, I wrote up what I think are the most salient differences between Modern M0110 (our project) and MX0110 (Red Scarf's design on Massdrop right now):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7s5zbs/red_scarf_ii_mx0110_on_massdrop/dt2ek0x/
Copied them below here as well:
- Modern M0110 will offer a top mount plate, not tray mount. This means a somewhat bouncier / softer bottom out experience as /u/merlin36 points out (although should be noted that you won't be able to use any random off the shelf plate for your Modern M0110 build)
- Modern M0110 will offer a brass plate, not aluminum or carbon fiber, which gives heft without sacrificing a smooth bottom out
- Modern M0110 will offer cerakoted surface finishes (cerakote is a popular metal finish in the gun enthusiast world)--in particular we're excited about a shade of beige called "light sand" which looks positively retro and an awesome homage to the original Apple keyboard.
Plus, if my understanding is correct, this will be the first keyboard GB with a cerakote optionEDIT: not the first cerakote keyboard group buy, I stand corrected :) - Modern M0110 will support any GH60 style PCB (at least with micro USB connectors, we haven't tested USB-C yet), so that means you can bring your own XD60, GH60, DZ60, or even Alps64 PCB if you'd like and not rely on a proprietary and case-specific PCB design + breakout daughter board like the one in MX0110. If you want to go Alps, our plate will offer Alps switch cutouts or you could design your own plate from our open sourced plate files--toughest part will be keycaps and stabilizers but feel free to PM me if you need pointers about putting together a custom Alps build
- Modern M0110 has a more ergonomic / comfortable tilt angle towards the user at 7 degrees, versus the more aggressive 14-15 degree tilt of the original which seems to have been preserved in the original
- Modern M0110 does not have a USB hub on the back like MX0110
- Modern M0110 will not have as many case color options, we are only offering 4 finish color options right now (silver anodized, gray anodized, beige cerakote, black cerakote) and have put a lot of time and thought into these options to find what we think are the best compliments to the design and also simplify the fulfillment process for our GB since we're not a big company and want to make sure we're executing well. You can always DIY your own surface finish at a local machine or powder coating shop, but we think you'll like what we have to offer :)
- Modern M0110 will only have the 7u spacebar HHKB layout, whereas MX0110 offers 6u and 7u spacebar layouts. The original M0110 had a symmetrical bottom row design, so we wanted to preserve that in our version
- Modern M0110 will not be available through Massdrop at this time
Anything else I missed? ;)
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 22 January 2018, 10:57:40
Post by: mike873 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 12:28:15
- easier to switch connectors without redesigning the board
- easier to fix busted connectors on an otherwise functional board
- creates expansion possibilities like adding proper usb-c support with power negotiation and a usb hub.
Post by: janglad on Mon, 22 January 2018, 12:33:28
A usb daughter-board nice.
- easier to switch connectors without redesigning the board
- easier to fix busted connectors on an otherwise functional board
- creates expansion possibilities like adding proper usb-c support with power negotiation and a usb hub.
Believe me, we have considered this to the point where we were talking with a manufacturer about this. While it does look nice, this also throws away the plethora of great 60% PCBs this community has made. From the availability of something like the GH60 to the lighting options of the Zeal 60 to the ease of programming you get with a Bootmapper PCB. Ignoring these so said years of progress this community has made on PCB design felt stupid since we would never be able to offer the vast choice of options there is out there right now.
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 22 January 2018, 14:08:01
A usb daughter-board nice.
- easier to switch connectors without redesigning the board
- easier to fix busted connectors on an otherwise functional board
- creates expansion possibilities like adding proper usb-c support with power negotiation and a usb hub.
Believe me, we have considered this to the point where we were talking with a manufacturer about this. While it does look nice, this also throws away the plethora of great 60% PCBs this community has made. From the availability of something like the GH60 to the lighting options of the Zeal 60 to the ease of programming you get with a Bootmapper PCB. Ignoring these so said years of progress this community has made on PCB design felt stupid since we would never be able to offer the vast choice of options there is out there right now.
That’s the main reason I’m joining your buy!
The ability to use any standard PCB is worth it to me, 100%!...Now if I can figure out which to use, lol.
Keep up the amazing progress!
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 January 2018, 14:17:25
A usb daughter-board nice.
- easier to switch connectors without redesigning the board
- easier to fix busted connectors on an otherwise functional board
- creates expansion possibilities like adding proper usb-c support with power negotiation and a usb hub.
Believe me, we have considered this to the point where we were talking with a manufacturer about this. While it does look nice, this also throws away the plethora of great 60% PCBs this community has made. From the availability of something like the GH60 to the lighting options of the Zeal 60 to the ease of programming you get with a Bootmapper PCB. Ignoring these so said years of progress this community has made on PCB design felt stupid since we would never be able to offer the vast choice of options there is out there right now.
Actually, from their photos, it looks to me like the RS PCB is a standard 60% PCB, but without the USB connector soldered on. Looks like the soldered the wires from the USB hub directly the the pads on the PCB where the USB connector would go.
But...you could always use that same idea, yet have a small connector inside that comes from the USB hub to a USB Mini-B male connector (or that plus Micro and USB-C). Then you could plug in the standard 60% PCB, connected to the USB hub via the USB connector internally.
Just a thought. :)
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 22 January 2018, 16:53:36
A usb daughter-board nice.
- easier to switch connectors without redesigning the board
- easier to fix busted connectors on an otherwise functional board
- creates expansion possibilities like adding proper usb-c support with power negotiation and a usb hub.
Believe me, we have considered this to the point where we were talking with a manufacturer about this. While it does look nice, this also throws away the plethora of great 60% PCBs this community has made. From the availability of something like the GH60 to the lighting options of the Zeal 60 to the ease of programming you get with a Bootmapper PCB. Ignoring these so said years of progress this community has made on PCB design felt stupid since we would never be able to offer the vast choice of options there is out there right now.
The only thing that I like on the MX0110 more is the addition of the USB hub. Not that I'd probably use it all that often, but it looks damn good.
More
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit/490A58D6_419A1232.D16E585A_20180117173951.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=787&dpr=1&q=80)
Are there any picture of the back (and other angles) of the Modern M0110?
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 22 January 2018, 17:00:40
Post by: xondat on Mon, 22 January 2018, 19:44:20
- Modern M0110 will offer cerakoted surface finishes (cerakote is a popular metal finish in the gun enthusiast world)--in particular we're excited about a shade of beige called "light sand" which looks positively retro and an awesome homage to the original Apple keyboard. Plus, if my understanding is correct, this will be the first keyboard GB with a cerakote option
The Monarch (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75786) had cerakoted plates, and 268 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92066) had cerakoted cases. Wouldn't be the first, but still a nice option. :thumb:
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 22 January 2018, 23:12:18
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 23:48:58
A usb daughter-board nice.
- easier to switch connectors without redesigning the board
- easier to fix busted connectors on an otherwise functional board
- creates expansion possibilities like adding proper usb-c support with power negotiation and a usb hub.
Believe me, we have considered this to the point where we were talking with a manufacturer about this. While it does look nice, this also throws away the plethora of great 60% PCBs this community has made. From the availability of something like the GH60 to the lighting options of the Zeal 60 to the ease of programming you get with a Bootmapper PCB. Ignoring these so said years of progress this community has made on PCB design felt stupid since we would never be able to offer the vast choice of options there is out there right now.
The only thing that I like on the MX0110 more is the addition of the USB hub. Not that I'd probably use it all that often, but it looks damn good.MoreShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/red-scarf-ii-ver-e-mx0110-60-custom-keyboard-kit/490A58D6_419A1232.D16E585A_20180117173951.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=787&dpr=1&q=80)
Are there any picture of the back (and other angles) of the Modern M0110?
I disagree, actually. While I think it could be useful (always nice plugging your mouse into a USB-passthrough on your keeb instead of to your desktop or laptop), it doesn't look good, imo.
Yep for sure, both projects are different takes on creating a modern homage to Apple's original M0110, so we wish Red Scarf and Massdrop well on their group buy :)
For those curious, I wrote up what I think are the most salient differences between Modern M0110 (our project) and MX0110 (Red Scarf's design on Massdrop right now):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7s5zbs/red_scarf_ii_mx0110_on_massdrop/dt2ek0x/
Copied them below here as well:
- Modern M0110 will offer a top mount plate, not tray mount. This means a somewhat bouncier / softer bottom out experience as /u/merlin36 points out (although should be noted that you won't be able to use any random off the shelf plate for your Modern M0110 build)
- Modern M0110 will offer a brass plate, not aluminum or carbon fiber, which gives heft without sacrificing a smooth bottom out
- Modern M0110 will offer cerakoted surface finishes (cerakote is a popular metal finish in the gun enthusiast world)--in particular we're excited about a shade of beige called "light sand" which looks positively retro and an awesome homage to the original Apple keyboard. Plus, if my understanding is correct, this will be the first keyboard GB with a cerakote option
- Modern M0110 will support any GH60 style PCB (at least with micro USB connectors, we haven't tested USB-C yet), so that means you can bring your own XD60, GH60, DZ60, or even Alps64 PCB if you'd like and not rely on a proprietary and case-specific PCB design + breakout daughter board like the one in MX0110. If you want to go Alps, our plate will offer Alps switch cutouts or you could design your own plate from our open sourced plate files--toughest part will be keycaps and stabilizers but feel free to PM me if you need pointers about putting together a custom Alps build
- Modern M0110 has a more ergonomic / comfortable tilt angle towards the user at 7 degrees, versus the more aggressive 14-15 degree tilt of the original which seems to have been preserved in the original
- Modern M0110 does not have a USB hub on the back like MX0110
- Modern M0110 will not have as many case color options, we are only offering 4 finish color options right now (silver anodized, gray anodized, beige cerakote, black cerakote) and have put a lot of time and thought into these options to find what we think are the best compliments to the design and also simplify the fulfillment process for our GB since we're not a big company and want to make sure we're executing well. You can always DIY your own surface finish at a local machine or powder coating shop, but we think you'll like what we have to offer :)
- Modern M0110 will only have the 7u spacebar HHKB layout, whereas MX0110 offers 6u and 7u spacebar layouts. The original M0110 had a symmetrical bottom row design, so we wanted to preserve that in our version
- Modern M0110 will not be available through Massdrop at this time
Anything else I missed? ;)
I just spent today reading through the entire thread and I gotta say you're making it difficult for me to not justify buying this. Between GMK Laser, CA66, an S65-X Kit, three SA Grab Bags, and a bunch of artisans, I'm super broke right now. But the Modern M0110 sounds like something I have to buy the more I read about it :\
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Tue, 23 January 2018, 01:19:59
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 23 January 2018, 07:06:38
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 23 January 2018, 07:13:43
I missed a lot of amazing GBs in 2017..
I missed many amazing 65% GBs in 2017. I hope there will be some this year.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:16:57
I am not going to join Massdrop GB, of course. 14 degree angle is a sure way to get RSI from typing.
I used an M0110A as my daily at work (I'm a dev) for a few months. The angle was pretty aggressive but I never had any issues with it. But I totally agree that the reduced angle on this one is a nice improvement.
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Tue, 23 January 2018, 20:27:05
- Modern M0110 will offer cerakoted surface finishes (cerakote is a popular metal finish in the gun enthusiast world)--in particular we're excited about a shade of beige called "light sand" which looks positively retro and an awesome homage to the original Apple keyboard. Plus, if my understanding is correct, this will be the first keyboard GB with a cerakote option
The Monarch (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75786) had cerakoted plates, and 268 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92066) had cerakoted cases. Wouldn't be the first, but still a nice option. :thumb:
Whoops corrected on reddit and just edited my post here to correct, sorry about that! Should have checked my facts first :P
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 23 January 2018, 21:55:53
None of the colors really interest me, but if I can just cerakote over the anodizing, i might have to do that. I assume there should be no issues given it's top mount, I wouldn't think anything would have tolerances THAT tight, but figured I'd ask.
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Wed, 24 January 2018, 02:01:55
Is there anything special about the ones that are getting cerakote? Like are they machined to different tolerances or anything? Or just normal anodized case with cerakote on top (much more durable than just cerakote over aluminum)?
None of the colors really interest me, but if I can just cerakote over the anodizing, i might have to do that. I assume there should be no issues given it's top mount, I wouldn't think anything would have tolerances THAT tight, but figured I'd ask.
Not planning to machine to different tolerances or anything, cerakote is super thin AFAIK and we should be fine but if we encounter issues with the prototype we're cerakoting we'll have to update the model for machining. I am definitely in favor of BYO cerakote / powder coat if that is something you want to do to get the exact look you want since we cannot offer color options to meet 100% of enthusiasts' needs (i.e. get case cerakoted in hot pink or some crazy ripple powder coat, etc.) :thumb:
Post by: vewy_nice on Wed, 24 January 2018, 09:22:06
I can't wait to see samples!
Post by: rottencat on Sat, 27 January 2018, 11:39:53
[...]There are a couple of minor manufacturing issues with respect to banding on the top chamfers and some improvements we'd like to make to the USB port[...]Hope it means that this mini-usb will be replaced by USB-C.
Post by: Sputnik on Sun, 28 January 2018, 13:35:26
1+ for usb-C compatibility (Banana split R2 - usb-C and 7U spacebar layout compatible - is on the go...) :thumb:[...]There are a couple of minor manufacturing issues with respect to banding on the top chamfers and some improvements we'd like to make to the USB port[...]Hope it means that this mini-usb will be replaced by USB-C.
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Thu, 01 February 2018, 11:16:03
One quick update on the GB: we are partnering with the wood artisan /u/ensulyn from over at reddit to provide custom sized wrist rests in walnut as an extra option when folks join the group buy from the US site deskcandy.xyz. I have one of them to test with the first prototype and you can check out pictures here (https://imgur.com/a/NrXsD).
Post by: adamcobabe on Thu, 01 February 2018, 12:05:00
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 02 February 2018, 06:04:04
If someone wants to lend myself or Janglad a 60% PCB with type-C or has a model to share we're happy to check compatibility :)
One quick update on the GB: we are partnering with the wood artisan /u/ensulyn from over at reddit to provide custom sized wrist rests in walnut as an extra option when folks join the group buy from the US site deskcandy.xyz. I have one of them to test with the first prototype and you can check out pictures here (https://imgur.com/a/NrXsD).
Needs a wrist rest to match cera coating :P :D :D
Done nitpicking now (A)
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 03 February 2018, 21:56:49
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4609/26194181188_8bbac7dbb6_k.jpg)
Source (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/albums/72157692242246264/with/26194181188/)
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 03 February 2018, 22:15:29
Saw this photo from the DMKC 2018 Meetup:Show Image(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4609/26194181188_8bbac7dbb6_k.jpg)
Source (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/albums/72157692242246264/with/26194181188/)
Saw that too. Hopefully we're close to GB
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 03 February 2018, 23:15:33
Saw that too. Hopefully we're close to GB
I'm excited too but I can't help but shake the feeling that the release is going to be short of timely and opportune; tons of cool boards that have gathered a lot of interest over time are in progress or imminent, and a lot of those are (or similar to) mx HHKBs; CA66 (kinda), Tokyo60, Sennin's board (optionally), M60, RS' 0110, etc.
Of course one shouldn't postpone their project in lieu of others, I'm just hoping this board's success isn't impaired by any of that - it looks so good with GMK Muted and in silver that I really can't think how great the cerakote beige will be with 9009. Extremely exciting.
Post by: macclack on Sat, 03 February 2018, 23:37:15
Saw that too. Hopefully we're close to GB
I'm excited too but I can't help but shake the feeling that the release is going to be short of timely and opportune; tons of cool boards that have gathered a lot of interest over time are in progress or imminent, and a lot of those are (or similar to) mx HHKBs; CA66 (kinda), Tokyo60, Sennin's board (optionally), M60, RS' 0110, etc.
Of course one shouldn't postpone their project in lieu of others, I'm just hoping this board's success isn't impaired by any of that - it looks so good with GMK Muted and in silver that I really can't think how great the cerakote beige will be with 9009. Extremely exciting.
If you take a step back, it's a pretty nice problem to have--even though my wallet is getting beyond destroyed. So many great boards being produced, it's fun to see.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 03 February 2018, 23:57:29
Saw that too. Hopefully we're close to GB
I'm excited too but I can't help but shake the feeling that the release is going to be short of timely and opportune; tons of cool boards that have gathered a lot of interest over time are in progress or imminent, and a lot of those are (or similar to) mx HHKBs; CA66 (kinda), Tokyo60, Sennin's board (optionally), M60, RS' 0110, etc.
Of course one shouldn't postpone their project in lieu of others, I'm just hoping this board's success isn't impaired by any of that - it looks so good with GMK Muted and in silver that I really can't think how great the cerakote beige will be with 9009. Extremely exciting.
Completely agree with macclack. It's nice to see such a variety of awesome boards getting made. I actually almost jumped on the CA66 but decided to hold off for this one instead.
Post by: ojrask on Sun, 04 February 2018, 06:35:28
......
Completely agree with macclack. It's nice to see such a variety of awesome boards getting made. I actually almost jumped on the CA66 but decided to hold off for this one instead.
I have also been considering not joining CA66 because of this board. I really like the looks of CA66 but right now this is looking way more interesting. I think CA66 might be getting a third round in any case as it is quite popular.
Will have to see.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 04 February 2018, 07:17:04
......
Completely agree with macclack. It's nice to see such a variety of awesome boards getting made. I actually almost jumped on the CA66 but decided to hold off for this one instead.
I have also been considering not joining CA66 because of this board. I really like the looks of CA66 but right now this is looking way more interesting. I think CA66 might be getting a third round in any case as it is quite popular.
Will have to see.
And quite frankly, considering that GB has no limit on order numbers, I don't think it'd be that hard to find one or two kits on the second-hand market afterward 🙂
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 04 February 2018, 10:13:43
If you take a step back, it's a pretty nice problem to have--even though my wallet is getting beyond destroyed. So many great boards being produced, it's fun to see.
I disagree with it being a nice problem to have; from a selfless perspective it is nice, means the hobby is growing and that more and more people are coming out with cool projects. Definitely good to see. However from a personal and selfish, financially conscious stance it's far from optimal. Not to mention when you're friends or in good standing with a lot of the people running these boards it's pretty ****ty to have to decide who you wanna support.
Again, as said, this is hardly a "problem" the GB runners can really solve; I was just speaking my mind.
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 04 February 2018, 10:43:18
Saw this photo from the DMKC 2018 Meetup:Show Image(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4609/26194181188_8bbac7dbb6_k.jpg)
Source (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/albums/72157692242246264/with/26194181188/)
Saw it in person, still have sore muscles, that thing is THICC boi
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 04 February 2018, 11:03:15
Saw this photo from the DMKC 2018 Meetup:Show Image(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4609/26194181188_8bbac7dbb6_k.jpg)
Source (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/albums/72157692242246264/with/26194181188/)
Saw it in person, still have sore muscles, that thing is THICC boi
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) niiice
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 04 February 2018, 11:13:34
Also, poor guy :D
(https://i.imgur.com/IjvgRtw.jpg)
Post by: hhkbp2 on Sun, 04 February 2018, 11:29:25
Lol.
Also, poor guy :DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/IjvgRtw.jpg)
Oh, It looks like Retro 60 from the top down angle in the previous picture. Indeed it's a M0110! Fall in love with it at the first glance.
Post by: Brammm87 on Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:09:17
Handled the proto that was at the DMKC meetup too. Holy hell I underestimated how thicc this thing is. It is massive. More massive than my M65A.
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 04 February 2018, 17:10:23
:))
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 04 February 2018, 18:06:19
Something wrong with the spacebar in that pic...
:))
That's how it's supposed to be ;D
Post by: macclack on Sun, 04 February 2018, 18:10:11
Lol.
Also, poor guy :DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/IjvgRtw.jpg)
LOL. That looks amazing (at least the parts that I can see).
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 05 February 2018, 01:07:40
Saw that too. Hopefully we're close to GB
I'm excited too but I can't help but shake the feeling that the release is going to be short of timely and opportune; tons of cool boards that have gathered a lot of interest over time are in progress or imminent, and a lot of those are (or similar to) mx HHKBs; CA66 (kinda), Tokyo60, Sennin's board (optionally), M60, RS' 0110, etc.
Of course one shouldn't postpone their project in lieu of others, I'm just hoping this board's success isn't impaired by any of that - it looks so good with GMK Muted and in silver that I really can't think how great the cerakote beige will be with 9009. Extremely exciting.
I just dropped off the other prototype from our second route of prototypes at a local cerakote shop and will hopefully have it done by end of the week plus get a better handle on how cerakote pricing will shake out (will definitely be more expensive than anodizing for sure, its just a matter of to what degree). Can't wait to get it back and snap some pics to show you all :)
Post by: vewy_nice on Mon, 05 February 2018, 06:41:45
And yeah, my wallet isn't happy... I've joined CA66, Melody96, Mars 8.0, GMK Camping, and GMK Taro... And I'm looking to pick up an Exent 2nd hand.
Good thing I just got a pay raise and lower rent (And a girlfriend who is also into keyboards, so she's excited too instead of being disappointed haha)
My "most custom" board at the moment is a KBDfans 5 degree case with a DZ60 PCB, so I'm excited to get some heavyweights.
Post by: macclack on Mon, 05 February 2018, 22:27:33
If you take a step back, it's a pretty nice problem to have--even though my wallet is getting beyond destroyed. So many great boards being produced, it's fun to see.
I disagree with it being a nice problem to have; from a selfless perspective it is nice, means the hobby is growing and that more and more people are coming out with cool projects. Definitely good to see. However from a personal and selfish, financially conscious stance it's far from optimal. Not to mention when you're friends or in good standing with a lot of the people running these boards it's pretty ****ty to have to decide who you wanna support.
Again, as said, this is hardly a "problem" the GB runners can really solve; I was just speaking my mind.
I see what you mean.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 05 February 2018, 23:31:28
Saw that too. Hopefully we're close to GB
I'm excited too but I can't help but shake the feeling that the release is going to be short of timely and opportune; tons of cool boards that have gathered a lot of interest over time are in progress or imminent, and a lot of those are (or similar to) mx HHKBs; CA66 (kinda), Tokyo60, Sennin's board (optionally), M60, RS' 0110, etc.
Of course one shouldn't postpone their project in lieu of others, I'm just hoping this board's success isn't impaired by any of that - it looks so good with GMK Muted and in silver that I really can't think how great the cerakote beige will be with 9009. Extremely exciting.
I just dropped off the other prototype from our second route of prototypes at a local cerakote shop and will hopefully have it done by end of the week plus get a better handle on how cerakote pricing will shake out (will definitely be more expensive than anodizing for sure, its just a matter of to what degree). Can't wait to get it back and snap some pics to show you all :)
That's good to know. BTW can you show any sample or example of what cerakote black will look like? Something similar to this?
(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/thumbnails/projects/23690/REVOLUTION-WEAPONRY-H-146-Graphite-Black-with-H-190-Armor-Black-45052-full.jpg)
Post by: janglad on Wed, 07 February 2018, 09:30:54
Sorry that I have been slow with updates here but I have had a really busy month! I did indeed get my prototype and took it to the meetup! It sadly got beat up really badly during shipping (seems to be a DHL Belgium issue or something, happened to my Moon too :( ) but, the quality is almost perfect.
The anodising is great, dare I say as good or even better than a MacBook Air. I couldn't be happier with this.
The polishing is perfect almost everywhere, there are a couple places that could have used a bit more work but this wil be a easy fix.
Everything was machined like the design now, which is great!
I will get some pictures of it up by tomorrow!!! We're getting closer everyday guys!! :thumb:
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 07 February 2018, 09:34:35
Image credit: janglad
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 07 February 2018, 09:48:25
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zRScOf4.jpg)
Image credit: janglad
This looks beautiful! Makes me want the cerakote a bit less.
Post by: smithyithy on Wed, 07 February 2018, 10:06:41
I'm so torn on which colour / theme to go for..
Post by: romevi on Wed, 07 February 2018, 11:07:01
Post by: macclack on Wed, 07 February 2018, 12:25:36
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zRScOf4.jpg)
Image credit: janglad
Stunning. I'm really looking forward to this.
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Wed, 07 February 2018, 12:29:52
Even since before I knew mechanical keyboards as a thing/hobby a wireless M0110 has been my endgame. And in such a weighty thicc metal. I'm moist just in anticipation. The ano aluminum vs cera beige will be a tough call, might have to just spring for both.
This is a gorgeous project, huge kudos guys. Thanks for your involvement in the community.
Post by: lorento on Wed, 07 February 2018, 12:35:40
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 07 February 2018, 13:40:46
Any word on the internal depth of the case? I've been scouring for pics or mentions of it but can't find any. My main concern is how adaptable it would be for Bluetooth and if I could tuck away a battery in the case. The original one had plenty of open air under the PCB to stow away a few cells.I'd be a little concerned about the bluetooth even being able to work in this case. You would need to have an opening in the metal by the receiver. If there isn't an opening the signal probably won't be able to penetrate the case. Basically the case will act like a Faraday cage.
Even since before I knew mechanical keyboards as a thing/hobby a wireless M0110 has been my endgame. And in such a weighty thicc metal. I'm moist just in anticipation. The ano aluminum vs cera beige will be a tough call, might have to just spring for both.
This is a gorgeous project, huge kudos guys. Thanks for your involvement in the community.
Post by: sleepybrett on Wed, 07 February 2018, 16:22:43
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 07 February 2018, 21:07:52
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 07 February 2018, 21:09:06
Is that a 7u spacebar?
Yes
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 07 February 2018, 23:17:47
Is that a 7u spacebar?
Yes
I just realized that this is for the case and that it supports 60% pcbs. So I'm guessing that there could be some altering of the bottom row to use a 6.25
Post by: janglad on Thu, 08 February 2018, 12:59:37
As promised here are some pictures of the prototype!! As you can see there's some shipping damage on some parts of the case, predominantly the front. To be clear, this is not how you will get yours :thumb:
While you may not be able to see it well in the pictures because they're quite grainy, the anodising is absolutely sublime. Also, with a brass plate this board types and sounds incredibly great (and I'm not saying that jus because I helped make it). I haven't touched my Moon TKL ever since I got this over a week ago, so that should say it all :D
(https://i.imgur.com/K2FuMIF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3VotBod.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/56yCGll.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YosIfrM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JCx1gg4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/umKM2bG.jpg)
Post by: janglad on Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:20:54
Post by: dysphorical on Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:24:33
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Thu, 08 February 2018, 14:36:12
Any word on the internal depth of the case? I've been scouring for pics or mentions of it but can't find any. My main concern is how adaptable it would be for Bluetooth and if I could tuck away a battery in the case. The original one had plenty of open air under the PCB to stow away a few cells.I'd be a little concerned about the bluetooth even being able to work in this case. You would need to have an opening in the metal by the receiver. If there isn't an opening the signal probably won't be able to penetrate the case. Basically the case will act like a Faraday cage.
Even since before I knew mechanical keyboards as a thing/hobby a wireless M0110 has been my endgame. And in such a weighty thicc metal. I'm moist just in anticipation. The ano aluminum vs cera beige will be a tough call, might have to just spring for both.
This is a gorgeous project, huge kudos guys. Thanks for your involvement in the community.
Huh. Now I feel a little ashamed that didn't occur to me. I do think I could snake the antenna out next to the USB port and tuck it nicely under the rear lip. Question still stands re: the internal space available.
Post by: macclack on Thu, 08 February 2018, 17:48:41
Hey guys!
As promised here are some pictures of the prototype!! As you can see there's some shipping damage on some parts of the case, predominantly the front. To be clear, this is not how you will get yours :thumb:
While you may not be able to see it well in the pictures because they're quite grainy, the anodising is absolutely sublime. Also, with a brass plate this board types and sounds incredibly great (and I'm not saying that jus because I helped make it). I haven't touched my Moon TKL ever since I got this over a week ago, so that should say it all :DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/K2FuMIF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3VotBod.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/56yCGll.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YosIfrM.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JCx1gg4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/umKM2bG.jpg)
Wiping drool from mouth.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 09 February 2018, 06:29:50
Any word on the internal depth of the case? I've been scouring for pics or mentions of it but can't find any. My main concern is how adaptable it would be for Bluetooth and if I could tuck away a battery in the case. The original one had plenty of open air under the PCB to stow away a few cells.I'd be a little concerned about the bluetooth even being able to work in this case. You would need to have an opening in the metal by the receiver. If there isn't an opening the signal probably won't be able to penetrate the case. Basically the case will act like a Faraday cage.
Even since before I knew mechanical keyboards as a thing/hobby a wireless M0110 has been my endgame. And in such a weighty thicc metal. I'm moist just in anticipation. The ano aluminum vs cera beige will be a tough call, might have to just spring for both.
This is a gorgeous project, huge kudos guys. Thanks for your involvement in the community.
Huh. Now I feel a little ashamed that didn't occur to me. I do think I could snake the antenna out next to the USB port and tuck it nicely under the rear lip. Question still stands re: the internal space available.
You could also just get a PC plate made :P
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 09 February 2018, 15:06:24
Post by: panrc on Fri, 09 February 2018, 21:26:05
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 09 February 2018, 22:07:46
Really nice prototype! Also, forgive my ignorance, but do we have any idea of when the GB will occure ? :thumb:+1, when is this happening!?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 09 February 2018, 22:33:58
Post by: DukeMugen on Wed, 14 February 2018, 22:05:26
Post by: g_ken92 on Tue, 20 February 2018, 23:08:18
Post by: tanvir175 on Wed, 21 February 2018, 00:20:31
bookmarked. been holding off tokyo60 from my buy list to get this instead :drool:
Same. I'd prefer this over the Tokyo60, at the moment. Especially since it seems pretty much confirmed Tokyo60 will have a round 2 and the poly-carb bottom I would want isn't in round 1.
Post by: mudcakehoney on Thu, 22 February 2018, 01:38:59
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Thu, 22 February 2018, 02:00:31
Sorry if this has already been posted but what colours are being offered?
I believe anodized silver, anodized space grey, cerakote beige and possibly cerakote black. I'm not positive on the black.
Post by: mudcakehoney on Thu, 22 February 2018, 02:11:10
Thanks. I’m feeling space grey on this but after seeing the prototype silver would look so sharpSorry if this has already been posted but what colours are being offered?
I believe anodized silver, anodized space grey, cerakote beige and possibly cerakote black. I'm not positive on the black.
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Thu, 22 February 2018, 09:45:01
Thanks. I’m feeling space grey on this but after seeing the prototype silver would look so sharpSorry if this has already been posted but what colours are being offered?
I believe anodized silver, anodized space grey, cerakote beige and possibly cerakote black. I'm not positive on the black.
I was initially hardcore on the cera beige, but ano silver with white-on-black keys would match the existing apple keyboards so perfectly it's hard to pass up.
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:31:33
I just got an Alps64 PCB from the recent GB and it would be so dope to have a Modern M0110 with the Orange alps I harvested from an AEK.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 25 February 2018, 07:15:43
Been a while since I read through the thread, so pardon me if this has been said a million times already, but is this compatible with the Alps64 PCB and Alps switches?
I just got an Alps64 PCB from the recent GB and it would be so dope to have a Modern M0110 with the Orange alps I harvested from an AEK.
The plate will indeed support ALPS mount and a ALPS64 PCB should work just fine! ALPS stabilisers are another story tho, however we will be open sourcing the plate design so anyone could get their own custom plate cut!!
Post by: janglad on Sun, 25 February 2018, 07:19:30
First of all sorry for my absence on this thread... There just wasn't much to update on because of CNNY :)
John got some cerakoting done on his prototype and sadly it didn't work out too well. It seems like because the prototype was polished and bead blasted so smooth (which is great for anodising but apparently not for cera), the coating didn't stick properly. We're currently looking into ways we can fix this without driving up the price like crazy.
I have been using my prototype whenever I can and I still enjoy it as much as I did on day one! It types and sounds insanely good and man does it look great!!!
I'm looking forward to updating you guys further :thumb:
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 25 February 2018, 14:02:34
Been a while since I read through the thread, so pardon me if this has been said a million times already, but is this compatible with the Alps64 PCB and Alps switches?
I just got an Alps64 PCB from the recent GB and it would be so dope to have a Modern M0110 with the Orange alps I harvested from an AEK.
The plate will indeed support ALPS mount and a ALPS64 PCB should work just fine! ALPS stabilisers are another story tho, however we will be open sourcing the plate design so anyone could get their own custom plate cut!!
That's awesome! I can't wait :D
Hey!
First of all sorry for my absence on this thread... There just wasn't much to update on because of CNNY :)
John got some cerakoting done on his prototype and sadly it didn't work out too well. It seems like because the prototype was polished and bead blasted so smooth (which is great for anodising but apparently not for cera), the coating didn't stick properly. We're currently looking into ways we can fix this without driving up the price like crazy.
I have been using my prototype whenever I can and I still enjoy it as much as I did on day one! It types and sounds insanely good and man does it look great!!!
I'm looking forward to updating you guys further :thumb:
That's a bit disappointing; hope you're able to work it out. Do you have color samples of the offered colors? The anodized silver in the previous images looks super dope but I'd like to see how the gray one looks as well. Mainly to see if it looks like the Space Gray offered on Macbooks.
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Sun, 25 February 2018, 14:06:28
Hey!
First of all sorry for my absence on this thread... There just wasn't much to update on because of CNNY :)
John got some cerakoting done on his prototype and sadly it didn't work out too well. It seems like because the prototype was polished and bead blasted so smooth (which is great for anodising but apparently not for cera), the coating didn't stick properly. We're currently looking into ways we can fix this without driving up the price like crazy.
I have been using my prototype whenever I can and I still enjoy it as much as I did on day one! It types and sounds insanely good and man does it look great!!!
I'm looking forward to updating you guys further :thumb:
That's a bit disappointing; hope you're able to work it out. Do you have color samples of the offered colors? The anodized silver in the previous images looks super dope but I'd like to see how the gray one looks as well. Mainly to see if it looks like the Space Gray offered on Macbooks.
Yeah, this https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7vwcuo/m0110_imac_pro_edition_updates/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7vwcuo/m0110_imac_pro_edition_updates/) is a render, but should give you a rough idea. I think they're aiming for decent color matching with the Apple colors. But keep in mind Apple has produced several different tones of dark anodized aluminum and labeled them "space grey." http://i.imgur.com/8lBViBH.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/8lBViBH.jpg)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 25 February 2018, 14:52:08
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 25 February 2018, 15:45:05
Can you cera better on an unfinished metal? I would think skipping the alu finishing (polish, bead blasting) would bring cost down for the manufacturing of the units intended for Cera
Cerakote adheres better over anodizing AND results in a stronger more durable finish. Skipping this to cut costs would be exceedingly short sighted.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 25 February 2018, 15:46:51
Can you cera better on an unfinished metal? I would think skipping the alu finishing (polish, bead blasting) would bring cost down for the manufacturing of the units intended for Cera
Cerakote adheres better over anodizing AND results in a stronger more durable finish. Skipping this to cut costs would be exceedingly short sighted.
I never said anything about anodizing. He literally said that was the problem... "It seems like because the prototype was polished and bead blasted so smooth (which is great for anodising but apparently not for cera), the coating didn't stick properly."
Post by: janglad on Sun, 25 February 2018, 15:55:40
Can you cera better on an unfinished metal? I would think skipping the alu finishing (polish, bead blasting) would bring cost down for the manufacturing of the units intended for Cera
Cerakote adheres better over anodizing AND results in a stronger more durable finish. Skipping this to cut costs would be exceedingly short sighted.
He literally said that was the problem... "It seems like because the prototype was polished and bead blasted so smooth (which is great for anodising but apparently not for cera), the coating didn't stick properly."
Yes, the prototype taken to the cera shop was not anodised (on advice of the guy running the shop). It seems like that actually wasn't the right advice after all, but he says he has little experience with 6 series aluminium. Guns tend to use 7 series which is less porous according to him which should help a lot. 7 series aluminium would both add a lot of unnecessary costs on the CNC part and be complete overkill for a board tho, so I'm not really in favour of switching to that. We're looking into getting some ano'd scrap pieces from our factory on which cera then can be tested.
Even tho it didn't go great, the colour sure did turn out nice tho :) Excuse the really crappy quality but this is all I have on hand atm. It has a really nice texture to it ;)
(https://i.imgur.com/PUZV0Aj.jpg)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 25 February 2018, 16:04:37
Can you cera better on an unfinished metal? I would think skipping the alu finishing (polish, bead blasting) would bring cost down for the manufacturing of the units intended for Cera
Cerakote adheres better over anodizing AND results in a stronger more durable finish. Skipping this to cut costs would be exceedingly short sighted.
He literally said that was the problem... "It seems like because the prototype was polished and bead blasted so smooth (which is great for anodising but apparently not for cera), the coating didn't stick properly."
Then his shop did something wrong. Most guns are Cerakote over hard anodizing. Works fine. Some will lightly blast the anodizing (if its in poor condition or excessively smooth) to help clean it after degreasing, but removing anodizing to cerakote seems like a bad idea to me. Just finish the surface different.
My guess is they didn't use degreaser to really get it clean first, or they used a super smooth finish. Anodizing should create a porus surface in the alu, which is easier for cerakote to bond to, but pores can easily get filled with machine oil and the like which is why you have to clean the **** out of it first. But worst case even if its smooth, you can just rough the surface lightly before coating.
Would also wanna find out if they used round media, as with cerakote when you blast you want rough media so you etch not polish.
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 25 February 2018, 17:44:21
Hey!
First of all sorry for my absence on this thread... There just wasn't much to update on because of CNNY :)
John got some cerakoting done on his prototype and sadly it didn't work out too well. It seems like because the prototype was polished and bead blasted so smooth (which is great for anodising but apparently not for cera), the coating didn't stick properly. We're currently looking into ways we can fix this without driving up the price like crazy.
I have been using my prototype whenever I can and I still enjoy it as much as I did on day one! It types and sounds insanely good and man does it look great!!!
I'm looking forward to updating you guys further :thumb:
That's a bit disappointing; hope you're able to work it out. Do you have color samples of the offered colors? The anodized silver in the previous images looks super dope but I'd like to see how the gray one looks as well. Mainly to see if it looks like the Space Gray offered on Macbooks.
Yeah, this https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7vwcuo/m0110_imac_pro_edition_updates/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7vwcuo/m0110_imac_pro_edition_updates/) is a render, but should give you a rough idea. I think they're aiming for decent color matching with the Apple colors. But keep in mind Apple has produced several different tones of dark anodized aluminum and labeled them "space grey." http://i.imgur.com/8lBViBH.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/8lBViBH.jpg)
Ahh, yeah. I forgot I saw that when it was posted. Thanks for the link! And I actually didn't know they called all those variants Space Gray. I would be most interested in the variant on the bottom right which looks very similar to the macbook pro 2016 space gray.
Can you cera better on an unfinished metal? I would think skipping the alu finishing (polish, bead blasting) would bring cost down for the manufacturing of the units intended for Cera
Cerakote adheres better over anodizing AND results in a stronger more durable finish. Skipping this to cut costs would be exceedingly short sighted.
He literally said that was the problem... "It seems like because the prototype was polished and bead blasted so smooth (which is great for anodising but apparently not for cera), the coating didn't stick properly."
Yes, the prototype taken to the cera shop was not anodised (on advice of the guy running the shop). It seems like that actually wasn't the right advice after all, but he says he has little experience with 6 series aluminium. Guns tend to use 7 series which is less porous according to him which should help a lot. 7 series aluminium would both add a lot of unnecessary costs on the CNC part and be complete overkill for a board tho, so I'm not really in favour of switching to that. We're looking into getting some ano'd scrap pieces from our factory on which cera then can be tested.
Even tho it didn't go great, the colour sure did turn out nice tho :) Excuse the really crappy quality but this is all I have on hand atm. It has a really nice texture to it ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PUZV0Aj.jpg)
That looks really nice! Really difficult to decide between ano or cera :\
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 25 February 2018, 17:52:22
Yes, the prototype taken to the cera shop was not anodised (on advice of the guy running the shop). It seems like that actually wasn't the right advice after all, but he says he has little experience with 6 series aluminium. Guns tend to use 7 series which is less porous according to him which should help a lot. 7 series aluminium would both add a lot of unnecessary costs on the CNC part and be complete overkill for a board tho, so I'm not really in favour of switching to that. We're looking into getting some ano'd scrap pieces from our factory on which cera then can be tested.
Even tho it didn't go great, the colour sure did turn out nice tho :) Excuse the really crappy quality but this is all I have on hand atm. It has a really nice texture to it ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PUZV0Aj.jpg)
Wow, that color really does look awesome!
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Sun, 25 February 2018, 17:53:43
Can you cera better on an unfinished metal? I would think skipping the alu finishing (polish, bead blasting) would bring cost down for the manufacturing of the units intended for Cera
Cerakote adheres better over anodizing AND results in a stronger more durable finish. Skipping this to cut costs would be exceedingly short sighted.
He literally said that was the problem... "It seems like because the prototype was polished and bead blasted so smooth (which is great for anodising but apparently not for cera), the coating didn't stick properly."
Yes, the prototype taken to the cera shop was not anodised (on advice of the guy running the shop). It seems like that actually wasn't the right advice after all, but he says he has little experience with 6 series aluminium. Guns tend to use 7 series which is less porous according to him which should help a lot. 7 series aluminium would both add a lot of unnecessary costs on the CNC part and be complete overkill for a board tho, so I'm not really in favour of switching to that. We're looking into getting some ano'd scrap pieces from our factory on which cera then can be tested.
Even tho it didn't go great, the colour sure did turn out nice tho :) Excuse the really crappy quality but this is all I have on hand atm. It has a really nice texture to it ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PUZV0Aj.jpg)
I'm moist. Looks like I'll have to be getting two.
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 25 February 2018, 18:30:04
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 25 February 2018, 18:35:44
Wow that looks really awesome. Wish I can afford one when this runs :(
Still no date I don't think. Start saving now! I've been putting $50 aside from every paycheck since I first saw the IC thread.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 25 February 2018, 18:38:17
Wow that looks really awesome. Wish I can afford one when this runs :(
Still no date I don't think. Start saving now! I've been putting $50 aside from every paycheck since I first saw the IC thread.
That's smart. I should have been doing that =/
Post by: smithyithy on Wed, 28 February 2018, 14:28:07
As this is only being made with the blocked corners, would it be better to have the corresponding corners on the plate be 'blocked' too? When I got a plate cut for my Tina build, I left the corners solid as the case has corner blockers like this and thus wouldn't be able to use those cutouts anyway.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Thu, 01 March 2018, 00:04:08
Thanks. I’m feeling space grey on this but after seeing the prototype silver would look so sharpSorry if this has already been posted but what colours are being offered?
I believe anodized silver, anodized space grey, cerakote beige and possibly cerakote black. I'm not positive on the black.
I was initially hardcore on the cera beige, but ano silver with white-on-black keys would match the existing apple keyboards so perfectly it's hard to pass up.
Yeah, that's my favorite part about this case: You can either go retro Apple with the cerokote beige or full-on modern Apple with anodized silver, or hell why not gray to fit the new iMac Pro.
I mean, I'm still waiting to see what cerakote gray will look like IRL, but so far so very promising.
Post by: online on Thu, 01 March 2018, 01:38:17
Any word on the internal depth of the case? I've been scouring for pics or mentions of it but can't find any. My main concern is how adaptable it would be for Bluetooth and if I could tuck away a battery in the case. The original one had plenty of open air under the PCB to stow away a few cells.I'd be a little concerned about the bluetooth even being able to work in this case. You would need to have an opening in the metal by the receiver. If there isn't an opening the signal probably won't be able to penetrate the case. Basically the case will act like a Faraday cage.
Even since before I knew mechanical keyboards as a thing/hobby a wireless M0110 has been my endgame. And in such a weighty thicc metal. I'm moist just in anticipation. The ano aluminum vs cera beige will be a tough call, might have to just spring for both.
This is a gorgeous project, huge kudos guys. Thanks for your involvement in the community.
Huh. Now I feel a little ashamed that didn't occur to me. I do think I could snake the antenna out next to the USB port and tuck it nicely under the rear lip. Question still stands re: the internal space available.
I wanna know this too. I love to make this my bluetooth daily keyboard!
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 03 March 2018, 18:50:20
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:00:59
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:10:10
i really like the idea of the throw back...but if you are not going to use the original m1001 layout...your just knocking of the hhkb and shooting up the bezels with roids...some people might be into that i guess tho...i would like to suggest the og layout in a modern case like the chiwi...i would buy that kit for two ish...i don't suggest packaging the entire kit as the enthusiast willing to fork out for a project like this will want to source there own switches and keycaps...love the idea tho...positive vibes
i like the throw back idea...but if you don't use the original m0110 layout you are just cloning the hhkb and juicing the bezels...the original layout in a modern case like the chiwi would get me on the hype train...i will say i'd prefer to see the kit contain just the case/plate, pcb, and stabs so i would be able to source my own switches and caps...love the idea...hope you succeed
Really.. JimiTrolln..? I feel like you made your point the first time. But positive vibes though.
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:14:59
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:18:11
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:20:08
sorry...i clicked the wrong link...thought the reply didn't post...my bad...good luck...i like it...count me in...i found this on another thread...thought you might like to see...sorry for the double...my bad...for real...sorryi really like the idea of the throw back...but if you are not going to use the original m1001 layout...your just knocking of the hhkb and shooting up the bezels with roids...some people might be into that i guess tho...i would like to suggest the og layout in a modern case like the chiwi...i would buy that kit for two ish...i don't suggest packaging the entire kit as the enthusiast willing to fork out for a project like this will want to source there own switches and keycaps...love the idea tho...positive vibesi like the throw back idea...but if you don't use the original m0110 layout you are just cloning the hhkb and juicing the bezels...the original layout in a modern case like the chiwi would get me on the hype train...i will say i'd prefer to see the kit contain just the case/plate, pcb, and stabs so i would be able to source my own switches and caps...love the idea...hope you succeed
Really.. JimiTrolln..? I feel like you made your point the first time. But positive vibes though.
The original M0110 is iconic due mostly to it's design, which is what this project invokes -- and might I say it does so fantastically. I don't think most people would value the original layout much, especially given that 10.5u space bars are nonexistent outside of that keyboard as far as I'm aware. The only thing I actually like from the original plate layout is the square blockers rather than the rectangular ones included here, but I understand why they are that way and it greatly increases symmetry/board compatibility.
So I think it's just a difference of opinion as to what makes the keyboard special. This highlights the 80s retro aesthetic and gorgeous design.
I think it's a far cry from an HHKB knockoff, and if it is, then there are tens of other HHKB "knockoffs" that deserve to be labeled as such as well. Only
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:40:07
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:43:00
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 04 March 2018, 01:54:45
I know I want Orange Alps in it but I'm having trouble deciding whether I want it with aek keycaps or not.
If you were to go the MX sliders route, what keycap sets would you place on what color options of the Modern M0110?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 04 March 2018, 12:01:47
Is anyone planning to use Alps switches on this board and, if so, are you planning on using the mx sliders from the Nexus Sliders IC or will you be using an aek keyset/a different Alps keycap set?
I know I want Orange Alps in it but I'm having trouble deciding whether I want it with aek keycaps or not.
If you were to go the MX sliders route, what keycap sets would you place on what color options of the Modern M0110?
Also shooting for an Orange Alps build here. I'm not betting much on the Nexus Sliders yet, 'cause who knows how well they will turn out to be Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż
So, original AEK keycaps for now, though sometimes I still dream about/got tempted by a Japanese set. I'm not really nostalgic for the original beige M0110, and I already have so a silver keyboard, so it'll be black for me.
Just waiting to see what cerakote black/gray will look like.
Post by: dysphorical on Sun, 04 March 2018, 12:06:53
Post by: Sputnik on Sun, 04 March 2018, 13:12:46
Very classy IMHO
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 04 March 2018, 14:43:18
Is anyone planning to use Alps switches on this board and, if so, are you planning on using the mx sliders from the Nexus Sliders IC or will you be using an aek keyset/a different Alps keycap set?
I know I want Orange Alps in it but I'm having trouble deciding whether I want it with aek keycaps or not.
If you were to go the MX sliders route, what keycap sets would you place on what color options of the Modern M0110?
Also shooting for an Orange Alps build here. I'm not betting much on the Nexus Sliders yet, 'cause who knows how well they will turn out to be Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż
So, original AEK keycaps for now, though sometimes I still dream about/got tempted by a Japanese set. I'm not really nostalgic for the original beige M0110, and I already have so a silver keyboard, so it'll be black for me.
Just waiting to see what cerakote black/gray will look like.
I'm not nostalgic on it either but if it looks really good I might choose it. If not, probably silver or gray, dependent on whether I would prefer a gray or rose gold tokyo60 when round 2 happens.
Depending on the quality of the nexus sliders I would get XDA Oblique with this (I really like uniform profiles) or gmk muted/classic retro.
I'm more into flashy sets like laser and red samurai. I'll also be getting in on that next pulse round. Others I really like are Miami and it's variants, calm depths, ocean/sky dolch, and some others I can't remember off the top of my head.
I see the appeal of classy and vintage sets though. I enjoy gmk 9009 but not enough to want to buy it, at least for now. My tastes may change.
Serika and space gray caseNot too big a fan of serika but I hope it's successful!
Very classy IMHO
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 04 March 2018, 14:49:41
Is anyone planning to use Alps switches on this board and, if so, are you planning on using the mx sliders from the Nexus Sliders IC or will you be using an aek keyset/a different Alps keycap set?
I know I want Orange Alps in it but I'm having trouble deciding whether I want it with aek keycaps or not.
If you were to go the MX sliders route, what keycap sets would you place on what color options of the Modern M0110?
Also shooting for an Orange Alps build here. I'm not betting much on the Nexus Sliders yet, 'cause who knows how well they will turn out to be Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż
So, original AEK keycaps for now, though sometimes I still dream about/got tempted by a Japanese set. I'm not really nostalgic for the original beige M0110, and I already have so a silver keyboard, so it'll be black for me.
Just waiting to see what cerakote black/gray will look like.
I'm not nostalgic on it either but if it looks really good I might choose it. If not, probably silver or gray, dependent on whether I would prefer a gray or rose gold tokyo60 when round 2 happens.Depending on the quality of the nexus sliders I would get XDA Oblique with this (I really like uniform profiles) or gmk muted/classic retro.
I'm more into flashy sets like laser and red samurai. I'll also be getting in on that next pulse round. Others I really like are Miami and it's variants, calm depths, ocean/sky dolch, and some others I can't remember off the top of my head.
I see the appeal of classy and vintage sets though. I enjoy gmk 9009 but not enough to want to buy it, at least for now. My tastes may change.Serika and space gray caseNot too big a fan of serika but I hope it's successful!
Very classy IMHO
I like it. Now, if it would have been gray alphas with that nice yellow for legends.... THAT would have been epic.
Post by: jimirolln on Sun, 04 March 2018, 14:51:35
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 04 March 2018, 15:09:04
I'm not nostalgic on it either but if it looks really good I might choose it. If not, probably silver or gray, dependent on whether I would prefer a gray or rose gold tokyo60 when round 2 happens.
no shade on the tokyo...but doyustudio chiwi has hhkb layout support...brass plate...brass weight...looks sharper...cost is comparable
As far as I can tell the chiwi supports the layout but the case isn't made to match and I don't think it would look good
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 04 March 2018, 15:31:49
I'm not nostalgic on it either but if it looks really good I might choose it. If not, probably silver or gray, dependent on whether I would prefer a gray or rose gold tokyo60 when round 2 happens.
no shade on the tokyo...but doyustudio chiwi has hhkb layout support...brass plate...brass weight...looks sharper...cost is comparable
I've seen the chiwi60, as well. Not too interested in it but it's definitely a great price for brass plate and weight. The tokyo60 looks better imo and I like that it comes with a pcb that is hot swap ready. I only used my hhkb for a week or two but I quickly grew fond of the layout. I didn't bother to rebuild my other keyboards in hhkb layout but I remapped the keys that way.
Whenever I'm using a school keyboard, I keep pressing ///// instead of backspace :/
Post by: idlemao on Sun, 04 March 2018, 16:20:55
Is anyone planning to use Alps switches on this board and, if so, are you planning on using the mx sliders from the Nexus Sliders IC or will you be using an aek keyset/a different Alps keycap set?I feel I'd put orange alps in mine, given there's few fitting chassis beyond the AEK64 for it. I haven't followed the Nexus Sliders IC too closely, but kinda like nguyenhimself said, the mixed opinions and information coming from that lead me to stick with the stock AEK caps for now.
I know I want Orange Alps in it but I'm having trouble deciding whether I want it with aek keycaps or not.
If you were to go the MX sliders route, what keycap sets would you place on what color options of the Modern M0110?
If the mx sliders do work out or I opt into standard mx switches, I'd probably go with a GMK Heisei or like a gray/beige colorset on the anodised space gray or the cerakoted beige. But I feel the space gray or cerakoted beige could also go well with GMK Space Cadet or Dolch. There are a lot of good options out there!
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 05 March 2018, 00:42:09
Is anyone planning to use Alps switches on this board and, if so, are you planning on using the mx sliders from the Nexus Sliders IC or will you be using an aek keyset/a different Alps keycap set?I feel I'd put orange alps in mine, given there's few fitting chassis beyond the AEK64 for it. I haven't followed the Nexus Sliders IC too closely, but kinda like nguyenhimself said, the mixed opinions and information coming from that lead me to stick with the stock AEK caps for now.
I know I want Orange Alps in it but I'm having trouble deciding whether I want it with aek keycaps or not.
If you were to go the MX sliders route, what keycap sets would you place on what color options of the Modern M0110?
If the mx sliders do work out or I opt into standard mx switches, I'd probably go with a GMK Heisei or like a gray/beige colorset on the anodised space gray or the cerakoted beige. But I feel the space gray or cerakoted beige could also go well with GMK Space Cadet or Dolch. There are a lot of good options out there!
Fair point. Don't know how good the sliders will be so it may not be best to test it using this sweet board.
I'm currently looking to source some Salmon Alps because I already have the Alps64 PCB and I'm being super impatient right now and want to build a board with it already but don't want to use the Orange Alps that I want to save for the Modern M0110.
I figure Hasu will run it at least once more between the time this GB opens and is completed.
Post by: idlemao on Mon, 05 March 2018, 01:06:29
Fair point. Don't know how good the sliders will be so it may not be best to test it using this sweet board.From what I understand about the product, since alps switches can be opened even once soldered, it would be somewhat easy to swap the mx compatible sliders in. But alps switches area just not fun to put back together, at least in my opinion, so there's that.
I'm currently looking to source some Salmon Alps because I already have the Alps64 PCB and I'm being super impatient right now and want to build a board with it already but don't want to use the Orange Alps that I want to save for the Modern M0110.
I figure Hasu will run it at least once more between the time this GB opens and is completed.
But even then I get the feeling unless the issues with that slider are ironed out, it'd just be easier and better to use the regular sliders. And Orange Alps are just so good. I'm curious how they'd sound in something much larger like the M0110. ^-^
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 05 March 2018, 10:01:20
Fair point. Don't know how good the sliders will be so it may not be best to test it using this sweet board.From what I understand about the product, since alps switches can be opened even once soldered, it would be somewhat easy to swap the mx compatible sliders in. But alps switches area just not fun to put back together, at least in my opinion, so there's that.
I'm currently looking to source some Salmon Alps because I already have the Alps64 PCB and I'm being super impatient right now and want to build a board with it already but don't want to use the Orange Alps that I want to save for the Modern M0110.
I figure Hasu will run it at least once more between the time this GB opens and is completed.
But even then I get the feeling unless the issues with that slider are ironed out, it'd just be easier and better to use the regular sliders. And Orange Alps are just so good. I'm curious how they'd sound in something much larger like the M0110. ^-^
I found and bought two AEK I's from ebay with orange Alps, one in near pristine condition. I love the sound of them as I bottom out. It's music to my ears. It's definitely got some excellent tactility but I don't think it's the most tactile I've tried.
The other I desoldered the switches from and it was absolutely filthy. I took them apart for ultrasonic cleaning so I completely know what you mean about putting them back together. It's such a pain in the ass. I've done them in batches of 10 and after fiddling around with one or two, I get the rhythm and am able to put the rest of the switches back together somewhat easily.
I still plan to order the mx sliders but I'll give them a test with my leftover orange Alps/salmon Alps before deciding it's good for the Modern M0110.
Post by: Poesjuh on Mon, 05 March 2018, 14:28:22
Fair point. Don't know how good the sliders will be so it may not be best to test it using this sweet board.From what I understand about the product, since alps switches can be opened even once soldered, it would be somewhat easy to swap the mx compatible sliders in. But alps switches area just not fun to put back together, at least in my opinion, so there's that.
I'm currently looking to source some Salmon Alps because I already have the Alps64 PCB and I'm being super impatient right now and want to build a board with it already but don't want to use the Orange Alps that I want to save for the Modern M0110.
I figure Hasu will run it at least once more between the time this GB opens and is completed.
But even then I get the feeling unless the issues with that slider are ironed out, it'd just be easier and better to use the regular sliders. And Orange Alps are just so good. I'm curious how they'd sound in something much larger like the M0110. ^-^
I found and bought two AEK I's from ebay with orange Alps, one in near pristine condition. I love the sound of them as I bottom out. It's music to my ears. It's definitely got some excellent tactility but I don't think it's the most tactile I've tried.
The other I desoldered the switches from and it was absolutely filthy. I took them apart for ultrasonic cleaning so I completely know what you mean about putting them back together. It's such a pain in the ass. I've done them in batches of 10 and after fiddling around with one or two, I get the rhythm and am able to put the rest of the switches back together somewhat easily.
I still plan to order the mx sliders but I'll give them a test with my leftover orange Alps/salmon Alps before deciding it's good for the Modern M0110.
I've taken apart about 100 white alps twice in the last couple of days (first to clean them, then to take out the tactile leaf :P) and I agree, it's a ****ty job to do. Then again, it is pretty calming work, very relaxing in a way :)
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:56:57
Fair point. Don't know how good the sliders will be so it may not be best to test it using this sweet board.From what I understand about the product, since alps switches can be opened even once soldered, it would be somewhat easy to swap the mx compatible sliders in. But alps switches area just not fun to put back together, at least in my opinion, so there's that.
I'm currently looking to source some Salmon Alps because I already have the Alps64 PCB and I'm being super impatient right now and want to build a board with it already but don't want to use the Orange Alps that I want to save for the Modern M0110.
I figure Hasu will run it at least once more between the time this GB opens and is completed.
But even then I get the feeling unless the issues with that slider are ironed out, it'd just be easier and better to use the regular sliders. And Orange Alps are just so good. I'm curious how they'd sound in something much larger like the M0110. ^-^
I found and bought two AEK I's from ebay with orange Alps, one in near pristine condition. I love the sound of them as I bottom out. It's music to my ears. It's definitely got some excellent tactility but I don't think it's the most tactile I've tried.
The other I desoldered the switches from and it was absolutely filthy. I took them apart for ultrasonic cleaning so I completely know what you mean about putting them back together. It's such a pain in the ass. I've done them in batches of 10 and after fiddling around with one or two, I get the rhythm and am able to put the rest of the switches back together somewhat easily.
I still plan to order the mx sliders but I'll give them a test with my leftover orange Alps/salmon Alps before deciding it's good for the Modern M0110.
I've taken apart about 100 white alps twice in the last couple of days (first to clean them, then to take out the tactile leaf :P) and I agree, it's a ****ty job to do. Then again, it is pretty calming work, very relaxing in a way :)
Haha, I can agree in some cases. When I was desoldering the orange alps off the pcb, it was such a pain in the ass and in no way calming at all. But I've also desoldered an MF68 which wasn't too bad and was somewhat relaxing. Opening up the alps switches wasn't too relaxing either but the slow and steady pacing of putting it back together definitely is. The first one or two is annoying but then I get the hang of it. Idk how I'd feel about doing 100 in one go though lol.
Post by: amatecha on Mon, 05 March 2018, 19:16:45
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 11 March 2018, 22:45:39
It's been a while so I don't remember, but this is a case mount board meaning the plate is integrated into the top portion of the board, right? Is this plate compatible with alps stabilizers? I would assume not so I think Costar is another option I can go instead of Alps stabs. I was told these require some modification to work but would it be possible with this plate?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 14 March 2018, 12:42:20
Oh, this just hit me. I wanted to use AEK keycaps for this board but that means using the Alps stabilizers instead of Cherry.
It's been a while so I don't remember, but this is a case mount board meaning the plate is integrated into the top portion of the board, right? Is this plate compatible with alps stabilizers? I would assume not so I think Costar is another option I can go instead of Alps stabs. I was told these require some modification to work but would it be possible with this plate?
It's case mount.
It's Alps-compatible (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92445.msg2518683#msg2518683).
You'll need an Alps64 PCB.
Post by: tanvir175 on Wed, 14 March 2018, 13:07:42
Oh, this just hit me. I wanted to use AEK keycaps for this board but that means using the Alps stabilizers instead of Cherry.
It's been a while so I don't remember, but this is a case mount board meaning the plate is integrated into the top portion of the board, right? Is this plate compatible with alps stabilizers? I would assume not so I think Costar is another option I can go instead of Alps stabs. I was told these require some modification to work but would it be possible with this plate?
It's case mount.
It's Alps-compatible (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92445.msg2518683#msg2518683).
You'll need an Alps64 PCB.
Right, I knew the last two points but wasn't sure if the plate is compatible with the Alps stabilizer inserts.
On the plate that comes with the Alps64, the insert is a small rectangle but a normal cherry stabilizer hole is much larger and would probably 'consume" the Alps insert hole.
So how would it work since this case mount plate is Alps and cherry compatible.
Here is a crude drawing trying to explain what I mean.
https://imgur.com/a/4noHd
The outer rectangle is cherry stabs, inner rectangle is Alps stabs.
Post by: vewy_nice on Wed, 14 March 2018, 15:03:25
It'd definitely be a weird fit, but I think it'd be possible to fit both.
Post by: tanvir175 on Wed, 14 March 2018, 16:18:41
The wire clips for alps stabs are closer to the center of the keycap, and also towards the bottom.
It'd definitely be a weird fit, but I think it'd be possible to fit both.
I hope so. I don't know the know-how of how this works and I'm not able to visualize it. I have an Alps64 plate from Hasu which is Alps stab compatible and have regular Cherry stab compatible plates. I can't see how one would make a plate that supports both types of stabs.
More pictures because I know I'm not exactly explaining this the best way:
Cherry stab compatible plate: http://i.imgur.com/BUHQrr7.jpg
Alps stab compatible plate: http://i.imgur.com/vDepcqb.jpg
When I try to image how it would work, the larger cutout for the cherry stab would overlay the cutout of the alps stab cutout, therefore making alps stabs not compatible?
Post by: vewy_nice on Thu, 15 March 2018, 13:34:07
Since they only grab the wire by the back spine and have nothing to do with the ends of the wire, you could, theoretically, use 1 single stab insert right in the middle. It'd be sketchy as hell, but it should still work.
You'd probably have to dump the long slot for the cherry wire, and just cry and die a little bit inside if you forget your cherry stabilizers before you soldered all your switches (Speaking from experience from that time I built a board with no slot)
Post by: tanvir175 on Thu, 15 March 2018, 13:54:24
The nice thing about the alps stab inserts is you can move them closer to the center, and it doesn't really affect performance too much.
Since they only grab the wire by the back spine and have nothing to do with the ends of the wire, you could, theoretically, use 1 single stab insert right in the middle. It'd be sketchy as hell, but it should still work.
You'd probably have to dump the long slot for the cherry wire, and just cry and die a little bit inside if you forget your cherry stabilizers before you soldered all your switches (Speaking from experience from that time I built a board with no slot)
I'm sure they've got this figured out already, I'm just trying to figure it out myself. Buying this board no matter what lol.
I know how that feels. My first build didn't have stabs (jj40 ortho 40%). When it came to my second build (S-65 X) I made sure to remind myself about stabs through the entire process. However, in my excitement after getting the leds soldered in, I forgot about them and went straight to the switches (box navy if anyone is wondering why I did leds before switches). It was such a pain in the ass to get it desoldered. This was before I bought the Engineer SS02 so I even lifted some pads with the ****ty sucker I was using. Easy fixes with some wire but it was still very annoying and I'm sure I'll never forget my stabs again. The only problem I still have is the led for the key immediately right to the spacebar is not lighting up. I even wired it to ones that were working and it still won't work. Resistor isn't missing and the traces look fine so idk what the issue is. It didn't bother me much so I just left it as it is.
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Fri, 16 March 2018, 10:56:52
Just a quick update - still haven't figured out why our latest prototype from China is soaking up Cerakote paint with such wild abandon and not allowing us to paint in properly :/ One theory is that the aluminum mixture our manufacturer in China used has different physical properties than standard 6061 and thus causing problems...
I am also now in talks with a US-based manufacturer for Modern M0110--should have a more concrete quote in the next couple days to find out if going this route is feasible but the goal is not have a material impact to the pricing guidance we've given already. If the pricing is within an acceptable range, I think both myself and Janglad will prefer to go with the US-based manufacturer in terms of ease of communication, coordinating logistics, and quality. Would be pretty cool to produce a retro-inspired keyboard case all in the USA :) The OG M0110 from Apple was made in the USA back when a lot of electronics manufacturing was still here, so it would be pretty cool to pay homage to this aspect of the original as well.
Post by: tanvir175 on Fri, 16 March 2018, 14:03:04
TL;DR - no ETA yet on GB date, talking to a US-based manufacturer and investigating Cerakote issues
Just a quick update - still haven't figured out why our latest prototype from China is soaking up Cerakote paint with such wild abandon and not allowing us to paint in properly :/ One theory is that the aluminum mixture our manufacturer in China used has different physical properties than standard 6061 and thus causing problems...
I am also now in talks with a US-based manufacturer for Modern M0110--should have a more concrete quote in the next couple days to find out if going this route is feasible but the goal is not have a material impact to the pricing guidance we've given already. If the pricing is within an acceptable range, I think both myself and Janglad will prefer to go with the US-based manufacturer in terms of ease of communication, coordinating logistics, and quality. Would be pretty cool to produce a retro-inspired keyboard case all in the USA :) The OG M0110 from Apple was made in the USA back when a lot of electronics manufacturing was still here, so it would be pretty cool to pay homage to this aspect of the original as well.
Very excited for this board so go ahead and take your time to make it perfect! My wallet could use some time to recover anyways ;D
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 18 March 2018, 15:26:50
MoreTL;DR - no ETA yet on GB date, talking to a US-based manufacturer and investigating Cerakote issuesI am also now in talks with a US-based manufacturer for Modern M0110--should have a more concrete quote in the next couple days to find out if going this route is feasible but the goal is not have a material impact to the pricing guidance we've given already. If the pricing is within an acceptable range, I think both myself and Janglad will prefer to go with the US-based manufacturer in terms of ease of communication, coordinating logistics, and quality. Would be pretty cool to produce a retro-inspired keyboard case all in the USA :) The OG M0110 from Apple was made in the USA back when a lot of electronics manufacturing was still here, so it would be pretty cool to pay homage to this aspect of the original as well.
Just a quick update - still haven't figured out why our latest prototype from China is soaking up Cerakote paint with such wild abandon and not allowing us to paint in properly :/ One theory is that the aluminum mixture our manufacturer in China used has different physical properties than standard 6061 and thus causing problems...
I am toally in for a US made M0110, it would be very nice. I think I would join in anyway since I need a nice « case only » gb for my zeal60 pcb ^^’
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Sun, 18 March 2018, 20:34:20
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94727.0
:cool:
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 21 March 2018, 11:47:29
Edit: nevermind, the answer was in the first damn post.
Post by: Spaghetti on Fri, 23 March 2018, 19:53:42
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 26 March 2018, 08:47:24
I love this so much, but please fix the kerning on the engraved numbers, they're driving me nutso :eek: Can't wait for the group buy!What engraved numbers?
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 26 March 2018, 13:34:22
I love this so much, but please fix the kerning on the engraved numbers, they're driving me nutso :eek: Can't wait for the group buy!
That is the plan ;)
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 26 March 2018, 13:37:37
Possibly a stupid question but what pcb's are compatible with this case? Or will I be able to buy one in the group buy?
Edit: nevermind, the answer was in the first damn post.
Answer to second question is also yes. Desk Candy will be accepting orders globally and offer at least one PCB as an add-on to your order (our special edition XD60) though we will also have an EU proxy and possibly also Asia proxy so there is more certainty in terms of how much you pay in your local jurisdiction as customs fees and import taxes will already be taken care of for you.
Base GB order will include case + plate in nice packaging--BYO switches, PCB, stabs, USB cable and keycaps though Desk Candy will have most of those for sale as well to simplify your build process.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 26 March 2018, 13:39:19
I love this so much, but please fix the kerning on the engraved numbers, they're driving me nutso :eek: Can't wait for the group buy!What engraved numbers?
The branding engraved on the inside of the case
Post by: notflipperdan420 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 12:39:44
Post by: GarrettSucks on Fri, 30 March 2018, 21:53:39
Post by: tanvir175 on Fri, 30 March 2018, 22:49:03
Should I use Brown or Blue alps, though?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 31 March 2018, 10:51:31
(https://i.imgur.com/3PuQ0XU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EBUb8qz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oOk5CZG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GFgens7.jpg)
Post by: schmoktopus on Sat, 31 March 2018, 11:08:34
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 31 March 2018, 11:26:12
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 31 March 2018, 12:38:27
Post by: xondat on Sat, 31 March 2018, 12:45:53
Oh Hai Mark: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/88irfm/photos_saw_this_prototype_at_a_meetup_in_vietnam/Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3PuQ0XU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EBUb8qz.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oOk5CZG.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GFgens7.jpg)
That's pretty outrageous.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 31 March 2018, 14:10:58
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 31 March 2018, 14:17:03
Post by: janglad on Sat, 31 March 2018, 14:24:39
Oh Hai Mark: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/88irfm/photos_saw_this_prototype_at_a_meetup_in_vietnam/Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3PuQ0XU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EBUb8qz.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oOk5CZG.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GFgens7.jpg)
Wel damn lol, I guess that makes 3 versions now? I'm not sure if the RedScarf one will be made because of how badly it sold/was executed.
Either way, I don't really mind it. We obviously don't own the design to begin with and I guess it just proves how solid of an idea this. IMO ours still the nicest by far for sure :thumb:(looking at this one it must have really wide gaps around the caps judging by the radii of the fillets and there is quite a lot of weird machining going on,...).
Post by: janglad on Sat, 31 March 2018, 14:35:10
Small update:
First of all, I'm super proud to show you the packaging for M0110!
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e2352f531476e57404/1522362124957/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-48-27PM-000_CustomizedView214051625_png.jpg?format=2500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e203ce643db981dc38/1522362134708/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-49-53PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd6704f950b7bc8ad515f4/1522362155364/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-50-06PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)
We really value a nice unboxing experience, so going for a brown cardboard box with the components wrapped in a bubble wrap was a definite no for us! Designed by Garrett from Dixiemech, this packaging further extends M0110's vintage theme by following the aesthetic of the 1984 Macintosh packaging :) As you can see the foam inserts for this are also custom made, meaning that your boards will arrive at your home without any shipping damage!! :thumb: Just like the cases these will be 100% US made!!
Speaking of the cases, the manufacturer is working on producing the prototype as we speak! I'm really exciting to see how that turns out, since if it's all good it really is the final step in getting this GB up!! FYI the 300USD for a anodized M0110 with brass plate and 350 for a CeraKoted M0110 with brass plates we announced earlier will most likely be the final pricing ;)
Thank you for all the support, I'm super happy with how this is turning out. I can genuinely say we have taken no compromises to make this (US manufacturing, Cerakoting, top notch anodizing, custom packaging, ...) :D
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 31 March 2018, 16:34:02
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 31 March 2018, 16:49:45
Hey guys!
Small update:
First of all, I'm super proud to show you the packaging for M0110!Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e2352f531476e57404/1522362124957/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-48-27PM-000_CustomizedView214051625_png.jpg?format=2500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e203ce643db981dc38/1522362134708/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-49-53PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd6704f950b7bc8ad515f4/1522362155364/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-50-06PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)
We really value a nice unboxing experience, so going for a brown cardboard box with the components wrapped in a bubble wrap was a definite no for us! Designed by Garrett from Dixiemech, this packaging further extends M0110's vintage theme by following the aesthetic of the 1984 Macintosh packaging :) As you can see the foam inserts for this are also custom made, meaning that your boards will arrive at your home without any shipping damage!! :thumb: Just like the cases these will be 100% US made!!
Speaking of the cases, the manufacturer is working on producing the prototype as we speak! I'm really exciting to see how that turns out, since if it's all good it really is the final step in getting this GB up!! FYI the 300USD for a anodized M0110 with brass plate and 350 for a CeraKoted M0110 with brass plates we announced earlier will most likely be the final pricing ;)
Thank you for all the support, I'm super happy with how this is turning out. I can genuinely say we have taken no compromises to make this (US manufacturing, Cerakoting, top notch anodizing, custom packaging, ...) :D
:thumb: super nice looking box! Can't wait to see the prototype!
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 31 March 2018, 17:10:26
Hey guys!
Small update:
First of all, I'm super proud to show you the packaging for M0110!Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e2352f531476e57404/1522362124957/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-48-27PM-000_CustomizedView214051625_png.jpg?format=2500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e203ce643db981dc38/1522362134708/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-49-53PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd6704f950b7bc8ad515f4/1522362155364/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-50-06PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)
We really value a nice unboxing experience, so going for a brown cardboard box with the components wrapped in a bubble wrap was a definite no for us! Designed by Garrett from Dixiemech, this packaging further extends M0110's vintage theme by following the aesthetic of the 1984 Macintosh packaging :) As you can see the foam inserts for this are also custom made, meaning that your boards will arrive at your home without any shipping damage!! :thumb: Just like the cases these will be 100% US made!!
Speaking of the cases, the manufacturer is working on producing the prototype as we speak! I'm really exciting to see how that turns out, since if it's all good it really is the final step in getting this GB up!! FYI the 300USD for a anodized M0110 with brass plate and 350 for a CeraKoted M0110 with brass plates we announced earlier will most likely be the final pricing ;)
Thank you for all the support, I'm super happy with how this is turning out. I can genuinely say we have taken no compromises to make this (US manufacturing, Cerakoting, top notch anodizing, custom packaging, ...) :D
I'm so excited :D I've got my money waiting for you!
Post by: eyedrop on Sat, 31 March 2018, 18:43:20
Looking forward to seeing the prototype.
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 March 2018, 18:47:57
Hey guys!
Small update:
First of all, I'm super proud to show you the packaging for M0110!Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e2352f531476e57404/1522362124957/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-48-27PM-000_CustomizedView214051625_png.jpg?format=2500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e203ce643db981dc38/1522362134708/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-49-53PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd6704f950b7bc8ad515f4/1522362155364/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-50-06PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)
We really value a nice unboxing experience, so going for a brown cardboard box with the components wrapped in a bubble wrap was a definite no for us! Designed by Garrett from Dixiemech, this packaging further extends M0110's vintage theme by following the aesthetic of the 1984 Macintosh packaging :) As you can see the foam inserts for this are also custom made, meaning that your boards will arrive at your home without any shipping damage!! :thumb: Just like the cases these will be 100% US made!!
Speaking of the cases, the manufacturer is working on producing the prototype as we speak! I'm really exciting to see how that turns out, since if it's all good it really is the final step in getting this GB up!! FYI the 300USD for a anodized M0110 with brass plate and 350 for a CeraKoted M0110 with brass plates we announced earlier will most likely be the final pricing ;)
Thank you for all the support, I'm super happy with how this is turning out. I can genuinely say we have taken no compromises to make this (US manufacturing, Cerakoting, top notch anodizing, custom packaging, ...) :D
Renders for box... that's damn good!
Post by: xondat on Sat, 31 March 2018, 21:08:27
Hey guys!
Small update:
First of all, I'm super proud to show you the packaging for M0110!Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e2352f531476e57404/1522362124957/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-48-27PM-000_CustomizedView214051625_png.jpg?format=2500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd66e203ce643db981dc38/1522362134708/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-49-53PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/5abd66e188251bf26fe3bff3/5abd6704f950b7bc8ad515f4/1522362155364/Packaging_2018-Mar-29_08-50-06PM-000_CustomizedView12409483100_png.jpg?format=2500w)
We really value a nice unboxing experience, so going for a brown cardboard box with the components wrapped in a bubble wrap was a definite no for us! Designed by Garrett from Dixiemech, this packaging further extends M0110's vintage theme by following the aesthetic of the 1984 Macintosh packaging :) As you can see the foam inserts for this are also custom made, meaning that your boards will arrive at your home without any shipping damage!! :thumb: Just like the cases these will be 100% US made!!
Speaking of the cases, the manufacturer is working on producing the prototype as we speak! I'm really exciting to see how that turns out, since if it's all good it really is the final step in getting this GB up!! FYI the 300USD for a anodized M0110 with brass plate and 350 for a CeraKoted M0110 with brass plates we announced earlier will most likely be the final pricing ;)
Thank you for all the support, I'm super happy with how this is turning out. I can genuinely say we have taken no compromises to make this (US manufacturing, Cerakoting, top notch anodizing, custom packaging, ...) :D
Lovely packaging... I want it solely for that.
Post by: vewy_nice on Sun, 01 April 2018, 06:16:08
I'd totally rock that box to transport it to meetups and such.
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 01 April 2018, 13:22:33
Will the board fit back in the box with switches and keycaps installed?
I'd totally rock that box to transport it to meetups and such.
I'm gonna assume it'll also have a top layer of foam so if you cut the top layer to size, it should be able to.
Post by: mago on Sun, 01 April 2018, 13:52:37
Post by: Acereconkeys on Sun, 01 April 2018, 16:52:00
Post by: janglad on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:56:38
A render of the black cerakote version that I thought I would share with you guys :thumb:
We're also considering adding Stormtrooper White and Purple options. A picture of the tint of purple is below, we have ordered samples to confirm but it seems like this would be a great match with GMK Laser, Hyperfuse, ... ;D Would anyone be down with this? If so make a comment saying which you would want since we're not sure if there's enough demand for us to add this option :)
(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/public/5a95b07f1bdf17.89342330.jpg)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 02 April 2018, 15:04:15
Stormtrooper white would be great, though I'm not certain how well it'd sell considering beige is relatively similar and such an obvious choice for this particular project.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 02 April 2018, 15:07:10
Post by: janglad on Mon, 02 April 2018, 15:44:16
Purple is on a huge high right now but going back to a request I made in like... page 2 or something, I'd actually like a neon pink instead. Though purple does go with more of the newer sets like you said, I think Laser would look much nicer on pink.
Stormtrooper white would be great, though I'm not certain how well it'd sell considering beige is relatively similar and such an obvious choice for this particular project.
The idea with the Stormtrooper White is that you can combine it with a BoW set to create a very clean board, not many GBs offer a true white colour (even MAO is almost always a tad grey or warm).
About that pink tho, I think we might have a perfect match for Lazer, what do you guys think of this instead of the purple?
(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/thumbnails/projects/35435/MAD-CUSTOM-COATING-H-217-Bright-Purple-and-H-224-Sig-Pink-72398-full.jpg)
Like on the bottom board
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/BZ27br1TIOyV6GfQvgZg_TKL%208.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1)
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 02 April 2018, 15:55:47
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Mon, 02 April 2018, 15:58:06
Purple is on a huge high right now but going back to a request I made in like... page 2 or something, I'd actually like a neon pink instead. Though purple does go with more of the newer sets like you said, I think Laser would look much nicer on pink.
Stormtrooper white would be great, though I'm not certain how well it'd sell considering beige is relatively similar and such an obvious choice for this particular project.
The idea with the Stormtrooper White is that you can combine it with a BoW set to create a very clean board, not many GBs offer a true white colour (even MAO is almost always a tad grey or warm).
About that pink tho, I think we might have a perfect match for Lazer, what do you guys think of this instead of the purple?Show Image(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/thumbnails/projects/35435/MAD-CUSTOM-COATING-H-217-Bright-Purple-and-H-224-Sig-Pink-72398-full.jpg)
Like on the bottom boardShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/BZ27br1TIOyV6GfQvgZg_TKL%208.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1)
This project is already my ultimate end game but that pink might make my head explode with how perfect it is.
Please PLEASE make this an option, even if it's a smaller run or more expensive.
Post by: SBN on Mon, 02 April 2018, 16:02:11
Post by: johuu on Mon, 02 April 2018, 16:07:49
Neon pink sounds tempting! If it’s offered I probably have a hard time staying with beige as my choice... :D
Go out of my head ;D
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 02 April 2018, 16:08:10
The idea with the Stormtrooper White is that you can combine it with a BoW set to create a very clean board, not many GBs offer a true white colour (even MAO is almost always a tad grey or warm).
About that pink tho, I think we might have a perfect match for Lazer, what do you guys think of this instead of the purple?Show Image(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/thumbnails/projects/35435/MAD-CUSTOM-COATING-H-217-Bright-Purple-and-H-224-Sig-Pink-72398-full.jpg)
Like on the bottom boardShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/BZ27br1TIOyV6GfQvgZg_TKL%208.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1)
Stormtrooper white is an awesome colour and your point is entirely fair, I definitely agree least to an extent. It's different enough that I think it could easily hold its own depending on how many overall units are sold.
Regarding the pink - absolutely. It looks slightly darker than Norbauer's Venice Beach (which is what the render you linked is based on, I believe), looks like it'd go great with Laser. I'm not a fan of matching the case to the dominant colour of the set, hence why I think it'd be a much better match than a slightly approximated purple. I'd be 100% down for that, and I think it's nice to have a "fun" colour, even for a conservative/oldschool design such as this one.
Post by: donut_sauce on Mon, 02 April 2018, 16:20:13
Neon pink sounds tempting! If it’s offered I probably have a hard time staying with beige as my choice... :D
Pink pls :thumb:
Post by: janglad on Mon, 02 April 2018, 16:52:11
(https://i.imgur.com/F7iYD3F.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/5w1sgQq.png)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 02 April 2018, 16:53:24
Purple is on a huge high right now but going back to a request I made in like... page 2 or something, I'd actually like a neon pink instead. Though purple does go with more of the newer sets like you said, I think Laser would look much nicer on pink.
Stormtrooper white would be great, though I'm not certain how well it'd sell considering beige is relatively similar and such an obvious choice for this particular project.
The idea with the Stormtrooper White is that you can combine it with a BoW set to create a very clean board, not many GBs offer a true white colour (even MAO is almost always a tad grey or warm).
About that pink tho, I think we might have a perfect match for Lazer, what do you guys think of this instead of the purple?Show Image(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/thumbnails/projects/35435/MAD-CUSTOM-COATING-H-217-Bright-Purple-and-H-224-Sig-Pink-72398-full.jpg)
Like on the bottom boardShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/BZ27br1TIOyV6GfQvgZg_TKL%208.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1)
The satin metallic berry color is excellent. I like the purple above too, because it’s more blue-shifted, but the warm magenta-“pink” is great.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 April 2018, 17:00:16
Purple is on a huge high right now but going back to a request I made in like... page 2 or something, I'd actually like a neon pink instead. Though purple does go with more of the newer sets like you said, I think Laser would look much nicer on pink.
Stormtrooper white would be great, though I'm not certain how well it'd sell considering beige is relatively similar and such an obvious choice for this particular project.
The idea with the Stormtrooper White is that you can combine it with a BoW set to create a very clean board, not many GBs offer a true white colour (even MAO is almost always a tad grey or warm).
About that pink tho, I think we might have a perfect match for Lazer, what do you guys think of this instead of the purple?Show Image(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/thumbnails/projects/35435/MAD-CUSTOM-COATING-H-217-Bright-Purple-and-H-224-Sig-Pink-72398-full.jpg)
Like on the bottom boardShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/BZ27br1TIOyV6GfQvgZg_TKL%208.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1)
The satin metallic berry color is excellent. I like the purple above too, because it’s more blue-shifted, but the warm magenta-“pink” is great.
agree
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 02 April 2018, 17:05:57
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 02 April 2018, 17:26:27
https://i.imgur.com/5w1sgQq.png
**** that purple case is amazing, it would be a definite buy for me.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 02 April 2018, 18:01:37
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Ag94Frc.jpg)
A render of the black cerakote version that I thought I would share with you guys :thumb:
We're also considering adding Stormtrooper White and Purple options. A picture of the tint of purple is below, we have ordered samples to confirm but it seems like this would be a great match with GMK Laser, Hyperfuse, ... ;D Would anyone be down with this? If so make a comment saying which you would want since we're not sure if there's enough demand for us to add this option :)Show Image(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/public/5a95b07f1bdf17.89342330.jpg)
Ugh, that black looks fanaztik! It'll be a hard decision between that and white...
Post by: Poesjuh on Mon, 02 April 2018, 18:11:14
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 02 April 2018, 18:13:33
So I'm gonna be that guy... In my humble opinion flashy colors like these make zero sense on this keyboard. It has a vintage look and feel to it and colors this bright doesn't fit that picture for me. But, I'm sure others have a different opinion and want nothing more than a purple or pink case :)
I understand your perspective. I really like the idea of pink because I want to see it. I will get silver of vintage beige for sure, but I want to see the neon pink ones, and as long as it doesn't raise the price I say go for it! I will wow all my friends with my modern vintage beige apple keyboard, and upvote all of the sexy pink ones I see on r/mk
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 02 April 2018, 18:14:41
So I'm gonna be that guy... In my humble opinion flashy colors like these make zero sense on this keyboard. It has a vintage look and feel to it and colors this bright doesn't fit that picture for me. But, I'm sure others have a different opinion and want nothing more than a purple or pink case :)
I can see the appeal. By adding the "modern" touch on this classic, you can add some flair that wouldn't have been a sensible decision back then. Not for me though.
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 02 April 2018, 18:44:44
So I'm gonna be that guy... In my humble opinion flashy colors like these make zero sense on this keyboard. It has a vintage look and feel to it and colors this bright doesn't fit that picture for me. But, I'm sure others have a different opinion and want nothing more than a purple or pink case :)
I can definitely see this keyboard looking snazzy in non-metallic muted vintage pastel colors.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 02 April 2018, 19:16:02
Purple is on a huge high right now but going back to a request I made in like... page 2 or something, I'd actually like a neon pink instead. Though purple does go with more of the newer sets like you said, I think Laser would look much nicer on pink.
Stormtrooper white would be great, though I'm not certain how well it'd sell considering beige is relatively similar and such an obvious choice for this particular project.
The idea with the Stormtrooper White is that you can combine it with a BoW set to create a very clean board, not many GBs offer a true white colour (even MAO is almost always a tad grey or warm).
About that pink tho, I think we might have a perfect match for Lazer, what do you guys think of this instead of the purple?Show Image(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/thumbnails/projects/35435/MAD-CUSTOM-COATING-H-217-Bright-Purple-and-H-224-Sig-Pink-72398-full.jpg)
Like on the bottom boardShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/BZ27br1TIOyV6GfQvgZg_TKL%208.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1)
I think the Norbaforce has a similiar pink color, Norbauer named it "totally-not-messing-around hot pink" 😆
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/venice-beach1_2048x2048.jpg?v=1504735708)
Could look good. That said, with GMK Olivia being so well-received, have you considered rose gold? That would be a more subtly feminine color.
(https://i.redd.it/q34twuf8vzk01.png)
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 02 April 2018, 19:16:48
So I'm gonna be that guy... In my humble opinion flashy colors like these make zero sense on this keyboard. It has a vintage look and feel to it and colors this bright doesn't fit that picture for me. But, I'm sure others have a different opinion and want nothing more than a purple or pink case :)
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Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 02 April 2018, 20:30:29
HmmmmmmShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/F7iYD3F.png)
I would buy this, but this is better color for sure:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/venice-beach1_2048x2048.jpg?v=1504735708)
Post by: smithyithy on Tue, 03 April 2018, 15:33:59
So I'm gonna be that guy... In my humble opinion flashy colors like these make zero sense on this keyboard. It has a vintage look and feel to it and colors this bright doesn't fit that picture for me. But, I'm sure others have a different opinion and want nothing more than a purple or pink case :)
I agree with this. Personal opinion.
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 03 April 2018, 16:31:18
So I'm gonna be that guy... In my humble opinion flashy colors like these make zero sense on this keyboard. It has a vintage look and feel to it and colors this bright doesn't fit that picture for me. But, I'm sure others have a different opinion and want nothing more than a purple or pink case :)
I agree with this. Personal opinion.
I also agree with this. I also agree with another poster above though who said that no harm no foul I don't think everyone should think the same way.
I don't think adding more anodizing/cerakoting options should up the cost for others much so have your fun :)
Post by: Brannan on Tue, 03 April 2018, 21:50:33
Post by: Dumblescore on Tue, 03 April 2018, 22:26:32
Post by: schmoktopus on Thu, 05 April 2018, 10:27:44
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Thu, 05 April 2018, 10:44:55
HmmmmmmShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/F7iYD3F.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5w1sgQq.png)
I am a huge proponent of a pink case, but I think of these two options the purple/blue color looks far superior and the pink looks dusty and unenthusiastic.
If these were options I probably wouldn't buy either and stick to the silver ano or beige Cera. That being said I'd still LOVE to see a brighter, hotter pink more on-line with Miami and Norbauer's colorway.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 05 April 2018, 13:40:42
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 05 April 2018, 14:57:25
Didn't RAMA just run a purple version of the M65-A? Though I know Exent has a pink varient. Both look amazing. Though I would be surprised if either Pink or Purple in this would make MOQ I would like to see either. I would choose pink personally, if I were to get a second after silver or cerabeige
Indeed a lilac m65-a was sold, I have one :D ! My Budapest SA finally find a home!
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 05 April 2018, 16:02:44
Purple is on a huge high right now but going back to a request I made in like... page 2 or something, I'd actually like a neon pink instead. Though purple does go with more of the newer sets like you said, I think Laser would look much nicer on pink.
Stormtrooper white would be great, though I'm not certain how well it'd sell considering beige is relatively similar and such an obvious choice for this particular project.
The idea with the Stormtrooper White is that you can combine it with a BoW set to create a very clean board, not many GBs offer a true white colour (even MAO is almost always a tad grey or warm).
About that pink tho, I think we might have a perfect match for Lazer, what do you guys think of this instead of the purple?Show Image(https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/thumbnails/projects/35435/MAD-CUSTOM-COATING-H-217-Bright-Purple-and-H-224-Sig-Pink-72398-full.jpg)
Like on the bottom boardShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/BZ27br1TIOyV6GfQvgZg_TKL%208.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1)
Which pink is that? Sig Pink?
(https://madcustomcoating.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/75.jpg)
Post by: iliketimex on Fri, 06 April 2018, 01:06:23
Personally I prefer the "smoke" gray color in the renderings on:
https://www.deskcandy.xyz/modern-m0110/
Would also like to see colors based on Apple platinum/neutral gray, of the snow white design era aesthetic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_White_design_language
Not interested in pink at all for this case, being a very retro concept.
In prototype testing, please consider some kind of a minimal chamfer on edges, instead of extremely sharp 90 degree corners. Also consider machining some kind of hold for easier racking, with the assistance of the anodizer, if this is warranted. Otherwise the anodizer will just do it however they feel like, and it may present a quality control problem.
Post by: ggZyg on Sun, 08 April 2018, 18:57:34
Post by: bmk_ on Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:42:23
Will this project come with a plate?
Post by: voight-kampff on Sat, 14 April 2018, 09:36:17
When aprox. could we buy it?
thanks
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 14 April 2018, 10:20:49
Excited for this project. The renders so far look great! Can't wait for proto pictures!
Will this project come with a plate?
The plate is integrated to the top part of the case.
I am interested in this case.
When aprox. could we buy it?
thanks
Not involved with the project but I'm hoping the end of this month or early next month.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 14 April 2018, 17:33:55
Excited for this project. The renders so far look great! Can't wait for proto pictures!
Will this project come with a plate?
The plate is integrated to the top part of the case.I am interested in this case.
When aprox. could we buy it?
thanks
Not involved with the project but I'm hoping the end of this month or early next month.
Unless something has change this is Top Mount, not an integrated plate, you are thinking of the M60-a.
This is from the OP:
(https://i.imgur.com/iCzPod8.png)
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 14 April 2018, 17:55:05
Excited for this project. The renders so far look great! Can't wait for proto pictures!
Will this project come with a plate?
The plate is integrated to the top part of the case.I am interested in this case.
When aprox. could we buy it?
thanks
Not involved with the project but I'm hoping the end of this month or early next month.
Unless something has change this is Top Mount, not an integrated plate, you are thinking of the M60-a.
This is from the OP:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iCzPod8.png)
Oh, I thought they were the same thing. My bad.
Can you explain the difference to me?
Post by: frostbyte-gaming on Sat, 14 April 2018, 19:14:21
Examples of both include the tokyo60 and rama m60a for integrated and for top mount we have the m65, tx60, and the Modern M0110 just to name a few.
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 14 April 2018, 19:23:51
Integrated plate is when the plate is built into the top piece of the case essentially making the top piece and plate all one piece. Top mounting however is when the top piece and plate are two seperate pieces where the plate is attached to the top piece usually by screws to hold them together.
Examples of both include the tokyo60 and rama m60a for integrated and for top mount we have the m65, tx60, and the Modern M0110 just to name a few.
Ahh, okay. Thanks for the explanation!
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Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 15:27:29
Post by: romevi on Mon, 23 April 2018, 15:40:59
Any updates?
https://www.polygon.com/2018/4/23/17270208/god-of-war-ps4-update-text-size-font-update
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 15:52:39
Any updates?
https://www.polygon.com/2018/4/23/17270208/god-of-war-ps4-update-text-size-font-update
I'm sorry. I still can't read what you're saying.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 24 April 2018, 15:35:38
Just wanted to give a super quick update. We thought we were super close to launching this GB, but our manufacturer in the US is having some issues which is making the prototype take a lot longer than expected. He's a guy with years of experience and already provided a lot of interesting knowledge as to how to make the design more suitable for manufacturing, so we still have full confidence in this working out. However, we are already looking into other options in case it doesn't. This will minimise extra delay in case we do need to switch. We really want to get this board finally to the GB stage with perfect quality, and if that means switching manufacturers again we'll have to go through that :|
I hope you understand that sorting manufacturing stuff out is fairly new to us, and as we said before we would rather have this take a couple more weeks than to launch it now and deliver a subpar product.
However, I fully promise you: it will be worth it in the end ;)
Thanks for all the support on this project!
Jan
PS: here's a pic I took the other day of our previous prototype with Calm Depths :thumb:
(https://i.imgur.com/2jQwJ4L.jpg)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 24 April 2018, 19:28:03
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 25 April 2018, 12:57:08
Hey guyswill this be a one time group buy ? (only one round)
Just wanted to give a super quick update. We thought we were super close to launching this GB, but our manufacturer in the US is having some issues which is making the prototype take a lot longer than expected. He's a guy with years of experience and already provided a lot of interesting knowledge as to how to make the design more suitable for manufacturing, so we still have full confidence in this working out. However, we are already looking into other options in case it doesn't. This will minimise extra delay in case we do need to switch. We really want to get this board finally to the GB stage with perfect quality, and if that means switching manufacturers again we'll have to go through that :|
I hope you understand that sorting manufacturing stuff out is fairly new to us, and as we said before we would rather have this take a couple more weeks than to launch it now and deliver a subpar product.
However, I fully promise you: it will be worth it in the end ;)
Thanks for all the support on this project!
Jan
PS: here's a pic I took the other day of our previous prototype with Calm Depths :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2jQwJ4L.jpg)
Post by: janglad on Fri, 27 April 2018, 08:12:02
Hey guyswill this be a one time group buy ? (only one round)
Just wanted to give a super quick update. We thought we were super close to launching this GB, but our manufacturer in the US is having some issues which is making the prototype take a lot longer than expected. He's a guy with years of experience and already provided a lot of interesting knowledge as to how to make the design more suitable for manufacturing, so we still have full confidence in this working out. However, we are already looking into other options in case it doesn't. This will minimise extra delay in case we do need to switch. We really want to get this board finally to the GB stage with perfect quality, and if that means switching manufacturers again we'll have to go through that :|
I hope you understand that sorting manufacturing stuff out is fairly new to us, and as we said before we would rather have this take a couple more weeks than to launch it now and deliver a subpar product.
However, I fully promise you: it will be worth it in the end ;)
Thanks for all the support on this project!
Jan
PS: here's a pic I took the other day of our previous prototype with Calm Depths :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2jQwJ4L.jpg)
As it stands now, most likely yes.
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 27 April 2018, 13:35:38
ok thank youHey guyswill this be a one time group buy ? (only one round)
Just wanted to give a super quick update. We thought we were super close to launching this GB, but our manufacturer in the US is having some issues which is making the prototype take a lot longer than expected. He's a guy with years of experience and already provided a lot of interesting knowledge as to how to make the design more suitable for manufacturing, so we still have full confidence in this working out. However, we are already looking into other options in case it doesn't. This will minimise extra delay in case we do need to switch. We really want to get this board finally to the GB stage with perfect quality, and if that means switching manufacturers again we'll have to go through that :|
I hope you understand that sorting manufacturing stuff out is fairly new to us, and as we said before we would rather have this take a couple more weeks than to launch it now and deliver a subpar product.
However, I fully promise you: it will be worth it in the end ;)
Thanks for all the support on this project!
Jan
PS: here's a pic I took the other day of our previous prototype with Calm Depths :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2jQwJ4L.jpg)
As it stands now, most likely yes.
Post by: GeneriksGiraffe on Fri, 27 April 2018, 19:30:08
Any chance for alps compatibility?Alps support would be amazing. The trouble is, of course, keycaps. I'm going to say that the layout will make alps a no go, sadly. Unless someone can convince a vendor to start making non-standard alps keycaps :)
That plate supports both MX and ALPS, and the ALPS64 should work in this case since it supports normal GH60 cases ;) ;)
I am pretty new to the ALPS game so I am confused on what this means exactly. Does this mean I can use my alps Costar stabilizers that come with my alps board with this plate? Do I have to use ALPS keycaps that have cherry mounts for the stabs? Not sure
Post by: bloos on Wed, 02 May 2018, 03:00:12
Are there any hot-swappable 60% pcbs available out there that will work with this? Or is the only option to buy hot-swappable sockets and put them in a pcb myself if I want hot-swappability?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 02 May 2018, 03:29:01
I'm guessing kbdfans' gk64 pcb won't work with this?You just missed it (http://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/hs60-hotswap-60-pcb/)!
Are there any hot-swappable 60% pcbs available out there that will work with this? Or is there only option to buy hot-swappable sockets and put them in a pcb myself if I want hot-swappability?
You can always just put Holtites in the DZ60 or similar.
Post by: DJ Shoko on Wed, 02 May 2018, 13:16:11
The HS-60 didn't have split right shift and the bottom row was different, honestly the HS-60 should've had a HHKB option with the bottom left and right CTRL, one with normal back space and one with the HHKB one.I'm guessing kbdfans' gk64 pcb won't work with this?You just missed it (http://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/hs60-hotswap-60-pcb/)!
Are there any hot-swappable 60% pcbs available out there that will work with this? Or is there only option to buy hot-swappable sockets and put them in a pcb myself if I want hot-swappability?
You can always just put Holtites in the DZ60 or similar.
Post by: Perfex on Wed, 02 May 2018, 13:22:18
http://yiancar-designs.com/?portfolio=hs60
Post by: macken on Thu, 03 May 2018, 08:40:17
Post by: Dumblescore on Tue, 08 May 2018, 16:04:24
Post by: dondongler on Wed, 09 May 2018, 11:22:11
Post by: goku12 on Thu, 17 May 2018, 09:27:20
Post by: vewy_nice on Thu, 17 May 2018, 10:12:10
Is there a way I can be notified when the group buy goes live?
Join the DeskCandy mailing list ;)
Post by: Acereconkeys on Thu, 17 May 2018, 11:49:43
Just check that every once in a while.
Post by: goku12 on Thu, 17 May 2018, 13:52:01
Is there a way I can be notified when the group buy goes live?
Join the DeskCandy mailing list ;)
Also now that you've posted in the thread this thread'll pop up in your "show unread topics since last visit".
Just check that every once in a while.
Thanks!
Post by: bloos on Mon, 21 May 2018, 01:13:33
edit: oh, think i found it,
Anodised silver
Anodised space gray
Cerakoted beige
Cerakoated black
btw, is there any way to search a thread?
Post by: piercejenkins on Thu, 24 May 2018, 20:05:09
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 04 June 2018, 11:10:13
so what are the all available color choices so far?
edit: oh, think i found it,
Anodised silver
Anodised space gray
Cerakoted beige
Cerakoated black
btw, is there any way to search a thread?
Yes the colors are correct :D we will also offer custom Cerakote colors as an additional option. As for the second question, I think the search box on geekhack by default searches the current thread in view?
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Mon, 04 June 2018, 11:11:25
Check out the full announcement over on Reddit here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8oimaq/modern_m0110_gb_dates_629_722/
Post by: dondongler on Mon, 04 June 2018, 11:43:13
Post by: long_qt_pie on Mon, 04 June 2018, 12:50:56
Post by: Mekuno on Mon, 04 June 2018, 12:54:23
Post by: janglad on Mon, 04 June 2018, 13:36:00
Is it just hhkb top row or does it support full BS too?
Supports normal backspace and split backspace, ANSI and ISO enter, 2.25 and 1.25 1 left shift setups; 2.75 u, 1.75u + 1u and 1u + 1.75u and normal or stepped caps lock :)
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 04 June 2018, 13:38:28
Any guesses on what shipping is going to look like?
Judging by the weight, I'm scared.
Post by: janglad on Mon, 04 June 2018, 13:40:25
Any guesses on what shipping is going to look like?
Judging by the weight, I'm scared.
We're looking into shipping quotes. Weight will indeed make it more expensive, however it will be shipping via a proxy instead of shipping out of Asia which will make a big difference in pricing!! Should turn out a lot cheaper than most custom GBs still! :thumb:
Post by: voight-kampff on Mon, 04 June 2018, 13:51:28
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 04 June 2018, 14:40:53
Should turn out a lot cheaper than most custom GBs still!
Really need this to be the case. I can't keep blowing my KB budget with all of these 'must-haves'. But I'm not going to miss this, so I'm really hoping this is in the "reasonably affordable" range
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 04 June 2018, 17:14:23
Any guesses on what shipping is going to look like?
Judging by the weight, I'm scared.
We're looking into shipping quotes. Weight will indeed make it more expensive, however it will be shipping via a proxy instead of shipping out of Asia which will make a big difference in pricing!! Should turn out a lot cheaper than most custom GBs still! :thumb:
No chance for a Canadian shipping proxy is there? I'm trying to avoid customs fees like I got with the m65 ($90)
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 04 June 2018, 20:58:20
1 1.5 7 1.5 1 only or would it support say AEK 1.25, 1.5, 6.5, 1.5, 1.25?
I really want to put together Alps64 + Alps switchs + AEK keycaps on this board.
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 04 June 2018, 23:00:37
What type of bottom row will the switch plate support?
1 1.5 7 1.5 1 only or would it support say AEK 1.25, 1.5, 6.5, 1.5, 1.25?
I really want to put together Alps64 + Alps switchs + AEK keycaps on this board.
Correct me if i'm wrong here op but I believe for this round it's HHKB bottom row only.
Post by: hhkbp2 on Tue, 05 June 2018, 00:44:03
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Engrave back of case
Engrave lower left corner of top case
What are these? Any render or sample for them?
Post by: Baconheart on Tue, 05 June 2018, 06:23:55
What type of bottom row will the switch plate support?
1 1.5 7 1.5 1 only or would it support say AEK 1.25, 1.5, 6.5, 1.5, 1.25?
I really want to put together Alps64 + Alps switchs + AEK keycaps on this board.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a093692f14aa13ff15444b5/5b14db948a922db6918e82a7/5b14dbc5575d1fc851843ba3/1528093938071/IMG_20180603_162123.jpg
Only HHKB and only PCB-mount Cherry stabilisers. You'd have to get a custom plate made to use AEK keycaps.
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 05 June 2018, 09:03:17
What type of bottom row will the switch plate support?
1 1.5 7 1.5 1 only or would it support say AEK 1.25, 1.5, 6.5, 1.5, 1.25?
I really want to put together Alps64 + Alps switchs + AEK keycaps on this board.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a093692f14aa13ff15444b5/5b14db948a922db6918e82a7/5b14dbc5575d1fc851843ba3/1528093938071/IMG_20180603_162123.jpg
Only HHKB and only PCB-mount Cherry stabilisers. You'd have to get a custom plate made to use AEK keycaps.
Good to see the plate up close. AEK keycaps -> custom plate. Gotcha.
Just curious, with the default switch plate, what type of Alps keycaps can I use?
Post by: katotaka on Tue, 05 June 2018, 09:55:34
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 05 June 2018, 10:02:08
Post by: janglad on Tue, 05 June 2018, 10:46:29
Just wanted to give some quick clarifications of some things I've been seeing pop up on the Discord:
- Flex!Wobble!
I've seen people worrying about the plate adding more wobble/flex because of multiple layouts and switch types. As for switch wobble: I too had this worry, and we were planning on going with a fixed MX only layout with no switch top removal. However I changed my mind once I got my prototype. The cutout supports the switches very well and does not allow for any more wobble than on say a Moon/Mira/Mech27 plate (have tested this). As for flex, this actually is a sturdier plate than you would find on say a Duck Viper! This is because of our fixed 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 bottom row. Like I mentioned before, layout options are as follows: normal/HHKB backspace, stepped/normal caps lock, split/normal shift. - Is there a PCB included?
The base kit does not include a PCB. We didn't choose to force everyone to buy a PCB since there are so many 60% options out there, and a lot of you probably have some sitting at home waiting to be built anyway! We will however be offering the option to buy a PCB with the board! - Is there an Asian proxy?
As of now: no. However, we have been in talks with one but just didn't confirm it yet. Reason being we're not sure how many people out of SEA are interested in getting a board. If you would order through a SEA proxy, please make some leave a comment. I have absolutely no idea how many orders we would get through a SEA proxy and if it would be viable for us so this could help us get an idea.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 05 June 2018, 13:49:51
Post by: chicagoboss25 on Tue, 05 June 2018, 14:59:02
What type of bottom row will the switch plate support?
1 1.5 7 1.5 1 only or would it support say AEK 1.25, 1.5, 6.5, 1.5, 1.25?
I really want to put together Alps64 + Alps switchs + AEK keycaps on this board.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a093692f14aa13ff15444b5/5b14db948a922db6918e82a7/5b14dbc5575d1fc851843ba3/1528093938071/IMG_20180603_162123.jpg
Only HHKB and only PCB-mount Cherry stabilisers. You'd have to get a custom plate made to use AEK keycaps.
Good to see the plate up close. AEK keycaps -> custom plate. Gotcha.
Just curious, with the default switch plate, what type of Alps keycaps can I use?
Alps keycaps with Cherry stab inserts such as Signature Plastics Alps keycaps will work great out of the box - other Alps stabilized switches might require you to use alternative inserts and/or custom bent stab wire. If you want keycaps that are guaranteed to work well check out the IC for Alps throwback:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94727.50
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 05 June 2018, 19:57:24
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 05 June 2018, 21:17:57
What type of bottom row will the switch plate support?
1 1.5 7 1.5 1 only or would it support say AEK 1.25, 1.5, 6.5, 1.5, 1.25?
I really want to put together Alps64 + Alps switchs + AEK keycaps on this board.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a093692f14aa13ff15444b5/5b14db948a922db6918e82a7/5b14dbc5575d1fc851843ba3/1528093938071/IMG_20180603_162123.jpg
Only HHKB and only PCB-mount Cherry stabilisers. You'd have to get a custom plate made to use AEK keycaps.
Good to see the plate up close. AEK keycaps -> custom plate. Gotcha.
Just curious, with the default switch plate, what type of Alps keycaps can I use?
Alps keycaps with Cherry stab inserts such as Signature Plastics Alps keycaps will work great out of the box - other Alps stabilized switches might require you to use alternative inserts and/or custom bent stab wire. If you want keycaps that are guaranteed to work well check out the IC for Alps throwback:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94727.50
Thanks for the reply! Will look into Alps Throwback~
Post by: godlikekitten on Wed, 06 June 2018, 23:20:23
Post by: Bael_Zharon on Wed, 06 June 2018, 23:45:01
11/10 would buy instantly
Same. I have it on my calendar!
Post by: 1Weeb on Thu, 07 June 2018, 00:10:42
Post by: mangoes on Thu, 07 June 2018, 00:57:58
Post by: tanvir175 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 02:16:01
Give me rose gold and I am INColors are finalized.
Silver or gray ano at base price
Light Sand or Dynamic Black cerakote for an extra 50 over base
Custom cerakote for an extra 80 over base
Full details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8oimaq/modern_m0110_gb_dates_629_722/
Post by: Starius on Thu, 07 June 2018, 06:20:20
Give me rose gold and I am INColors are finalized.
Silver or gray ano at base price
Light Sand or Dynamic Black cerakote for an extra 50 over base
Custom cerakote for an extra 80 over base
Full details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8oimaq/modern_m0110_gb_dates_629_722/
I just saw in that thread you linked that he replied, "You can pick a color or combo of colors from the Cerakote website."
I'm not 100% positive that this is that color list, but it might be...
https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES (https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES)
If this is the case, we might have more color options available than any other group buy I've seen...
Post by: janglad on Thu, 07 June 2018, 07:03:29
Give me rose gold and I am IN
Like this? ;) https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/gallery/detail/26416/Cerakote-h141-prison-pink-and-h122-gold/
(https://i.imgur.com/FuUJdt2.jpg)
Post by: janglad on Thu, 07 June 2018, 07:04:50
Give me rose gold and I am INColors are finalized.
Silver or gray ano at base price
Light Sand or Dynamic Black cerakote for an extra 50 over base
Custom cerakote for an extra 80 over base
Full details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8oimaq/modern_m0110_gb_dates_629_722/
I just saw in that thread you linked that he replied, "You can pick a color or combo of colors from the Cerakote website."
I'm not 100% positive that this is that color list, but it might be...
https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES (https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES)
If this is the case, we might have more color options available than any other group buy I've seen...
This is correct! Each colour will need to be confirmed individually if it's possible/how close it's possible to get with Cerakote but you can make some amazing colours with it that would be impossible with anodising!
Post by: KeLorean on Thu, 07 June 2018, 08:07:24
GH logo would be cool too.
does anybody have any other ideas for an engraving?
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Post by: lumpofunworth on Thu, 07 June 2018, 08:14:28
Post by: janglad on Thu, 07 June 2018, 09:34:55
what are the details on engraving an design on front lower left corner? what type of file do u need? kinda considering an apple;)
GH logo would be cool too.
does anybody have any other ideas for an engraving?
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Still working on that, we will provide everyone with a template soon! :thumb:
Post by: janglad on Thu, 07 June 2018, 09:36:04
I like the look of this board, I feel like it would be hard to type on but the novelty is there for sure.
Definitely a higher board than normal, but not as high as it seems in pictures. Only a couple mm higher than say a Fjell. But you're right, after using M0110 for a while and switching back to a really low board it feels kinda weird for a couple minutes and vice versa.
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:11:27
I like the look of this board, I feel like it would be hard to type on but the novelty is there for sure.
Definitely a higher board than normal, but not as high as it seems in pictures. Only a couple mm higher than say a Fjell. But you're right, after using M0110 for a while and switching back to a really low board it feels kinda weird for a couple minutes and vice versa.
I'm glad the original angle was lessened. As much as I loved the looks it would've been awful for my wrists.
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:35:17
Give me rose gold and I am INColors are finalized.
Silver or gray ano at base price
Light Sand or Dynamic Black cerakote for an extra 50 over base
Custom cerakote for an extra 80 over base
Full details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8oimaq/modern_m0110_gb_dates_629_722/
I just saw in that thread you linked that he replied, "You can pick a color or combo of colors from the Cerakote website."
I'm not 100% positive that this is that color list, but it might be...
https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES (https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES)
If this is the case, we might have more color options available than any other group buy I've seen...
This is correct! Each colour will need to be confirmed individually if it's possible/how close it's possible to get with Cerakote but you can make some amazing colours with it that would be impossible with anodising!
Should we use the link he provided to pick the cerakote color?
Totally interested in this!
Post by: RobotRogue on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:35:45
Post by: mdlt97 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:57:05
Post by: janglad on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:53:15
is there an exact weight confirmed yet? seen a few different numbers
About 7.5 lbs/3.4kg built without caps :cool:
Post by: romevi on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:55:38
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 12 June 2018, 01:07:11
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 12 June 2018, 01:14:26
im confused will this come with pcb or will that need to be sourced?
Base kit doesn't come with one. They will have the option to order one from them or you can get one yourself.
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 15 June 2018, 07:06:10
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 25 June 2018, 09:22:44
Post by: Troif on Mon, 25 June 2018, 16:31:14
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Post by: hhkbp2 on Tue, 26 June 2018, 01:06:09
Post by: MAR82 on Tue, 26 June 2018, 04:03:13
What does the engraved front/back look like, is there any render picture to show that?
I would also love to see a picture or a render of what it might look like, and know if it would be possible to get the Apple logo engraved for it to look more like the original
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 28 June 2018, 06:40:46
Post by: lumpofunworth on Thu, 28 June 2018, 11:06:39
Here is the link to the updates post:https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8oimaq/modern_m0110_gb_dates_629_722/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8oimaq/modern_m0110_gb_dates_629_722/)
And here is the date announcement:https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8ucuyv/modern_m0110_less_than_36_hours_until_launch/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8ucuyv/modern_m0110_less_than_36_hours_until_launch/)
Edit: I just realized that someone already linked this, sorry lol.
Post by: deskcandy on Fri, 29 June 2018, 00:01:16
For everyone asking about updates, he has been doing them through Reddit and the GB launches on the 29th on deskcandy.xyz
Here is the link to the updates post:https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8oimaq/modern_m0110_gb_dates_629_722/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8oimaq/modern_m0110_gb_dates_629_722/)
And here is the date announcement:https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8ucuyv/modern_m0110_less_than_36_hours_until_launch/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8ucuyv/modern_m0110_less_than_36_hours_until_launch/)
Edit: I just realized that someone already linked this, sorry lol.
Group buy goes live in 2 hours!
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 29 June 2018, 02:17:27
Post by: mwahlig on Fri, 29 June 2018, 02:20:04
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Post by: dantambok on Fri, 29 June 2018, 02:38:07
What the actual **** with EU proxy prices!!!!!!!!!! 390€ vs 340USD, which translate in 290€! ... I have the vague impression that some is trying to f*** my b******....
import fees?
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 29 June 2018, 03:28:53
What the actual **** with EU proxy prices!!!!!!!!!! 390€ vs 340USD, which translate in 290€! ... I have the vague impression that some is trying to f*** my b******....
import fees?
Can't be 100€! I'd rather buy it from the US, pay shipping and import fees and it will still be 50€ cheaper! This makes no sense. This could just prevent me to join
Post by: deskcandy on Fri, 29 June 2018, 03:59:33
What the actual **** with EU proxy prices!!!!!!!!!! 390€ vs 340USD, which translate in 290€! ... I have the vague impression that some is trying to f*** my b******....
import fees?
Can't be 100€! I'd rather buy it from the US, pay shipping and import fees and it will still be 50€ cheaper! This makes no sense. This could just prevent me to join
We spent a lot of time focusing on EU pricing as we care a lot about the EU market for this set of group buys (we know that there are a lot of Alps and vintage keyboard fans in EU and UK) and set pricing as tight as we could--import taxes, high cost of shipping (this is a very heavy keyboard at ~3.5kg) and the cost of manufacturing in the US make it challenging to set retail prices in both EU and US that are on par with each other. I am sorry that EU pricing is higher than US pricing, we do value the EU community quite a lot but our hands are tied by factors out of our control (i.e., shipping and import taxes). Feel free to PM me if you have any follow-up questions or concerns. Thank you!
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 29 June 2018, 04:21:04
Don’t get me wrong, I’m kinda sad about it was well, but it really just something we in the EU have to live with. Stuff here is more expensive, iPhone X us > $999 ? IPhone X here in The Netherlands > 1160 euro..
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Post by: foxlive on Fri, 29 June 2018, 04:22:32
What the actual **** with EU proxy prices!!!!!!!!!! 390€ vs 340USD, which translate in 290€! ... I have the vague impression that some is trying to f*** my b******....
import fees?
Can't be 100€! I'd rather buy it from the US, pay shipping and import fees and it will still be 50€ cheaper! This makes no sense. This could just prevent me to join
We spent a lot of time focusing on EU pricing as we care a lot about the EU market for this set of group buys (we know that there are a lot of Alps and vintage keyboard fans in EU and UK) and set pricing as tight as we could--import taxes, high cost of shipping (this is a very heavy keyboard at ~3.5kg) and the cost of manufacturing in the US make it challenging to set retail prices in both EU and US that are on par with each other. I am sorry that EU pricing is higher than US pricing, we do value the EU community quite a lot but our hands are tied by factors out of our control (i.e., shipping and import taxes). Feel free to PM me if you have any follow-up questions or concerns. Thank you!
I just send you a PM.. But I realized on new things which REALLY annoy me regarding the pricing.. The options!
* Cerakote in beige: 40USD > 34.5€ as with today change!!!!!! YOU ASK FOR FREAKING 56€
* Engraving: 40USD > 34.5€... You ask for 45€
This doesn't change the shipping or TAX anyway, stop the BS here, this is done in the US, paid in USD, we should get a fair price fixed regarding how usd-euros traid! I really don't like it.. This is not caring about EU pricing, this is just making more money on EU pricing.
Not happy at all, this hobby is already expensive enough, do not want to pay at the end 150/200 euros more just because I live in France. Com'on!
If price do not change to fit US price, I will not join for sure
Post by: befbef on Fri, 29 June 2018, 04:34:43
Post by: alisonica on Fri, 29 June 2018, 04:52:06
Zoll??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I wanted to buy 3 sets for me and my two siblings. could you pleaseeeeeee loweerrrrr PREIS!
I gave up on those numbers.
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 29 June 2018, 05:40:56
Won't join as well. No problem spending 500€ for a case but not if I feel ripped off.
Same here, I spend more than 3k€ on board already, no problem to spend more if the price is FAIR and reflect hard work, craftmanship and limited edition. But just paid more for EU proxy.. WHY ? Proxy are supposed to lower the cost, reduce import fees and shipping. If this is like this, just get ride of the proxy, just ship from us, ask 50bucks for the shipping, and we will take at our charge the import fees... It will still cost less!
Post by: MxBlue on Fri, 29 June 2018, 07:28:59
I just send you a PM.. But I realized on new things which REALLY annoy me regarding the pricing.. The options!
* Cerakote in beige: 40USD > 34.5€ as with today change!!!!!! YOU ASK FOR FREAKING 56€
* Engraving: 40USD > 34.5€... You ask for 45€
This doesn't change the shipping or TAX anyway, stop the BS here, this is done in the US, paid in USD, we should get a fair price fixed regarding how usd-euros traid! I really don't like it.. This is not caring about EU pricing, this is just making more money on EU pricing.
Not happy at all, this hobby is already expensive enough, do not want to pay at the end 150/200 euros more just because I live in France. Com'on!
If price do not change to fit US price, I will not join for sure
I'm not all too familiar with your tax laws, but how would the customisation not change your tax? You get taxed on the value of your order, and the customisation just adds on to it. If you honestly think the EU vendors never considered people ordering straight from the US and comparing prices, I think you might need to calm down and redo the maths. Surely they adjusted prices to be competitive with import costs.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 29 June 2018, 07:43:21
Ok so I'm just going to get straight to the EU pricing here. I'm not going to lie, reading these responses makes me both kinda sad and angry. I only had 2 hours of sleep this night because of M0110 and uni finals so that probably doesn't help lol, but both me and especially John, David and Yuliia from Mykeyboard pulled a really late night yesterday to bring this EU proxy to the market.
The price is higher than the US, this is obvious. This is not what we wanted, and I completely understand if people say this is higher than expected. This is the case for me too.
What I absolutely can't come close to understand, is the people saying this is a rip-off. Our margins on the EU proxy are far smaller than on the US side. We're dealing with single digit numbers of profit per person here. There is no way we can get this lower (making no profit would be dangerous since we need something to fall back to in case remachining is needed). The EU cost is mainly caused by 3 things: 21% tax on revenue, a higher (4%) PayPal fee and +-€30 shipping per board to the EU even in bulk.
If you really think we're ripping you off I more than welcome you to ask John for shipping quotes to your country. Hell, we would actually make more profit if everyone bought from the US proxy. The EU proxy makes very little sense economically, which we accepted because we wanted to help people get the board in the EU. This is why the "ripping off" comments are especially infuriating. When ordering from say Belgium via the US proxy, you would not only be looking at 21% import tax but also with a €20 administration fee and shipping in the +$50 range.
I don't get how the comparison of upgrades make sense either. Tax obviously is applied to those too. Yes, when adding tax you still have about €5 left. Believe it or not, Mykeyboard is a business and businesses tend to like to make at least some profit. The slightly higher margin there is to compensate for the dip on the base kit I described earlier.
Sorry if this comes off as very defensive, but frankly it's a bit hurtful to see people react this way after you actually cut profits to offer it to them. Like I said if you think that importing directly is cheaper feel free to contact John about a direct import from the US.
With this over, I want to get to the lighter side. Sales have been doing well and I'm super excited to finally launch this product. Thank you to all the amazing people who have supported this product. Like I have said before, I promise you won't be disappointed when you get this thing in your hands.
Typed from my M0110 :thumb:
Jan
Post by: Starius on Fri, 29 June 2018, 08:34:21
I appreciate all the hard work and dealing with the logistical nightmare that something like this must take.
On a personal note, I hastily made my order this morning and now that I'm at work I'm second guessing my choice of switch. If I change my mind today, am I able to change that on my order?
Post by: janglad on Fri, 29 June 2018, 08:55:57
This is why I wish we could thumb up or like posts here, because I would thumb up your post Jan. :thumb:
I appreciate all the hard work and dealing with the logistical nightmare that something like this must take.
On a personal note, I hastily made my order this morning and now that I'm at work I'm second guessing my choice of switch. If I change my mind today, am I able to change that on my order?
Cool to hear your support! It's been one hell of journey, over a year long now I think :D
Could you PM me on Discord? @janglad#9749 I'm sure we can work it out!
Post by: monkt on Fri, 29 June 2018, 09:40:54
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