[IC]Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4(Massdrop GB Starts)

[poolside]

ANSI US

[Remsky]

ANSI US

+1

[zekkin]

ANSI US w/ icon mods

[iamtootallforthis]

I created three kinds of ANSI APL Layouts but It's difficult to make a decision.
So let's vote on that.

• ANSI DE
• ANSI US
• ANSI DE-US

I would vote for ANSI US with icon mods.

But if that choice is not given, then ANSI-DE-US.

Second this

[crtexcnndrm99]

Anything but icon mods. ughhh

[beamingrobot]

Anything but icon mods. ughhh

+1 prefer text + icons instead of just icon mods

[nastrovje]

I'd die for the ANSI-DE set. Keep the original original.

If there is any way to make that version too, besides the US version most people want here, please let me know Hammer 

I would buy a couple sets myself if necessary. What is the MOQ for also running the german set?

e/ If the german set is possible, the key above Enter would need to get changed. This R2 key should be there instead to truly be ansi-de

 


the "\"-backslash sits already in the numrow, pressing "ctrl+alt+?"
"|" normally sits on the "><"-key next to "Y", which goes missing with ansi in exchange for a larger Shift. "><|" gets remapped to another random key usually.

"#" and especially " ' " are really missing though and therefore take the place

[Hammer]

I'd die for the ANSI-DE set. Keep the original original.

If there is any way to make that version too, besides the US version most people want here, please let me know Hammer 

I would buy a couple sets myself if necessary. What is the MOQ for also running the german set?

e/ If the german set is possible, the key above Enter would need to get changed. This R2 key should be there instead to truly be ansi-de

 

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the "\"-backslash sits already in the numrow, pressing "ctrl+alt+?"
"|" normally sits on the "><"-key next to "Y", which goes missing with ansi in exchange for a larger Shift. "><|" gets remapped to another random key usually.

"#" and especially " ' " are really missing though and therefore take the place

Appreciate it mister

[tunguyen]

I would prefer the ansi-de set.
It's so original and way cooler.
Hopefully I can get one
Pls ansi-de

[Zackfoo]

I need this.

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[wodan]

Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?

Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.

I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.

Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO

Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.

[hansichen]

Voting for Ansi-de or ansi with icon mods. Text mods are an ugly no go

[Puddsy]

Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?

Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.

I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.

Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO

Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.

As far as I'm aware, BSP has always used GMK spacebars.

And Hammer has proven themselves to be legit in the past, but I agree a healthy amount of skepticism should be taken going into this GB. I heard from someone that these will be made on IMSTO's tooling that they purchased, but I don't think that that has any base in reality.

[Hammer]

Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?

Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.

I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.

Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO

Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.

Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?

Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.

I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.

Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO

Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.

As far as I'm aware, BSP has always used GMK spacebars.

And Hammer has proven themselves to be legit in the past, but I agree a healthy amount of skepticism should be taken going into this GB. I heard from someone that these will be made on IMSTO's tooling that they purchased, but I don't think that that has any base in reality.

Yes spacebars come from GMK like Puddsy said.
Btw Puddsy, your friend said the wrong thing. Imsto used to sell my BSP keycaps on geekhack, like an agent,
I don't use any tools or something of others, I just make them by myself with no one's help.
It has nothing to do with him.

[wodan]

...
It has nothing to do with him.

Okay thanks, good to know.

[superdoedoe]

Anything but icon mods. ughhh

+1 prefer text + icons instead of just icon mods

+2 Icon Mods by itself is 

[t8c]

Imsto used to sell my BSP keycaps on geekhack, like an agent,
I don't use any tools or something of others, I just make them by myself with no one's help.
It has nothing to do with him.

Do you have any of his contact information? The last group buy has been a disaster. According to himself Gateron suddenly refused to sell him caps so he has made his own. Have you heard anything about this? Is he lying? We have still not received any keycaps or updates, and it seems highly likely that we will never get our orders.

[nastrovje]

Let's not make this thread into an IMSTO-complain-thread.

But before it's too late and since he isn't coming back, I suggest all the scammed people from the previous GBs to get together in a new thread and all contact him.

If he isn't refunding the money or doing anything, maybe it is time to contact the police. This sum of money isn't small at all and means serious consequences. The only way to do something about it is together though.

[t8c]

Let's not make this thread into an IMSTO-complain-thread.

But before it's too late and since he isn't coming back, I suggest all the scammed people from the previous GBs to get together in a new thread and all contact him.

If he isn't refunding the money or doing anything, maybe it is time to contact the police. This sum of money isn't small at all and means serious consequences. The only way to do something about it is together though.

Except we have zero contact information, only an email address to which he ignores emails and imsto.cn. We can't post on kbdlab or chinese sites due to language barriers. Making Hammer aware of the situation is one of few alternatives left.

The thread idea has already been tried in a previous case. The thread regarding Ivan's disappearance did not yield results -  he did not respond.

[Hammer]

Let's not make this thread into an IMSTO-complain-thread.

But before it's too late and since he isn't coming back, I suggest all the scammed people from the previous GBs to get together in a new thread and all contact him.

If he isn't refunding the money or doing anything, maybe it is time to contact the police. This sum of money isn't small at all and means serious consequences. The only way to do something about it is together though.

Except we have zero contact information, only an email address to which he ignores emails and imsto.cn. We can't post on kbdlab or chinese sites due to language barriers. Making Hammer aware of the situation is one of few alternatives left.

The thread idea has already been tried in a previous case. The thread regarding Ivan's disappearance did not yield results -  he did not respond.

I haven't been in contact with him for a long time, tbh I don't know what he's doing now. I heard he suffered a lot and I hope he can get back to us soon.

[Puddsy]

Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?

Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.

I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.

Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO

Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.

Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?

Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.

I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.

Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO

Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.

As far as I'm aware, BSP has always used GMK spacebars.

And Hammer has proven themselves to be legit in the past, but I agree a healthy amount of skepticism should be taken going into this GB. I heard from someone that these will be made on IMSTO's tooling that they purchased, but I don't think that that has any base in reality.

Yes spacebars come from GMK like Puddsy said.
Btw Puddsy, your friend said the wrong thing. Imsto used to sell my BSP keycaps on geekhack, like an agent,
I don't use any tools or something of others, I just make them by myself with no one's help.
It has nothing to do with him.

Ah, cool. Thanks for the info.

[shekki]

Anything but icon mods. ughhh

+1 prefer text + icons instead of just icon mods

+2 Icon Mods by itself is 

+1 another vote for icon + text 

[dblack]

Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?

Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.

I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.

Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO

Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.

Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?

Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.

I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.

Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO

Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.

As far as I'm aware, BSP has always used GMK spacebars.

And Hammer has proven themselves to be legit in the past, but I agree a healthy amount of skepticism should be taken going into this GB. I heard from someone that these will be made on IMSTO's tooling that they purchased, but I don't think that that has any base in reality.

Yes spacebars come from GMK like Puddsy said.
Btw Puddsy, your friend said the wrong thing. Imsto used to sell my BSP keycaps on geekhack, like an agent,
I don't use any tools or something of others, I just make them by myself with no one's help.
It has nothing to do with him.

That's good to hear

[Puddsy]

I'll throw in a vote for ANSI-US.

[rainb1ood]

ANSI US for me

[apejonk]

ANSI US with Icons please

[Mahm]

ANSI US with Icon mods for me as well!

[crtexcnndrm99]

Icon mods whyyyyyy :’(

[revenantjay]

ANSI US+DE!

[The_judge_168]

ANSI US, don't care about the mods

[Hammer]

Only for BSP buyers.

UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits';

[Puddsy]

Only for BSP buyers.

UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits';

cute

[dgneo]

Only for BSP buyers.

UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits';

Yes! These are awesome.

[sncbraxsc2]

Only for BSP buyers.

UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits';

cute

nice! 

[dblack]

Only for BSP buyers.

UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits';

wow those look great! also, are there going to be multiple versions or is tulip what youre going with? i havent read every message in the thread but i saw a few people mention desko, if something like desko were to be a possibility i would be very excited 

however im buying  set either way lol

[Cavemann6]

Only for BSP buyers.

UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits';

Naisss 

[flyingpike]

ANSI US. Please no icon only mods.

[pkzheng]

ANSI US + Icon mods

[sth]

Only for BSP buyers.

UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits';

omgosh please let me get one of those outside the pbt gb :O

[Hammer]

For the people who loves icon mods, this might be a good news.

UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Icon Mods';

[Puddsy]

For the people who loves icon mods, this might be a good news.

UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Icon Mods';

down arrow caps only

[yuktsi]

Is there GB up already? Couldn't find the thread =(

[Puddsy]

Is there GB up already? Couldn't find the thread =(

not yet

[P1kas]

I vote for ANSI-US+DE

[AdrianMan]

I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?

[LightningXI]

I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?

There's ANSI ones out there in the market too. Sherryton from Oco sold a bunch of new old stock and he might even still have some. Just an FYI, not a critique to your suggestion.

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[Hammer]

I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?

So why do you need Hammer dude. 

[zekkin]

I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?

Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.

[Puddsy]

I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?

Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.

BSP feels nicer tho

[futurecrime]

I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?

Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.

BSP feels nicer tho

Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?