Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)

[CPTBadAss]

Does anybody know the types of switches IBM uses in their POS keyboards?

The POS keyboard we use at work is some type of rubber dome with slider I think, it's really nice to type on. The tactility is actually quite strong and the bottoming out is surprisingly solid. They are also very worn in so they obviously have aged well.

I won't pop out the cap, but some of the keys are translucent and it's a black cylindrical slider.

This isn't the same one exactly, but it looks very similar to this one, except it's black.

http://www.techpartswarehouse.com/media/images/IB-65Y4051_wm.jpg

Keycaps are also still pretty rough feeling, despite daily heavy use.

Rubber dome over slider

Just to verify before i screw these holes.

Since the housing cant be swapped on a HHKB I have to screw small holes to fit the modifier keys from a novatouch. correct?

I believe so. I'm not a heavy Topre user though.

are g80-1814 use a vintage clear switches or just modern clear switches? btw its the winkeyless version of g80-1800 

Depends on the date code I suppose. And how much usage it's seen. I'd post a picture of the label and ask someone who's really into Cherry like photekq if the know what the date is.

Any update bro? 

Lol...did you take a picture like I suggested? Can't help you without the label.

[jerue]

are g80-1814 use a vintage clear switches or just modern clear switches? btw its the winkeyless version of g80-1800 

Depends on the date code I suppose. And how much usage it's seen. I'd post a picture of the label and ask someone who's really into Cherry like photekq if the know what the date is.

Any update bro? 

If you are referring to the one that was posted in the Price Check thread, yes it has vintage clears since it was made in 1992.

[TehKitteh]

Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm


I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

[FLFisherman]

Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm


I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

[TehKitteh]

Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm


I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

[FLFisherman]

Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm


I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).

[TehKitteh]

Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm


I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).

Wow, am I correct in saying that this board costs $60 USD? If so, then for that price I might as well take my chances with whatever G-Axis means... my only fear is that C stands for Cherry and G stands for Gateron, considering the G axis is cheaper.

[FLFisherman]

Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm


I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).

Wow, am I correct in saying that this board costs $60 USD? If so, then for that price I might as well take my chances with whatever G-Axis means... my only fear is that C stands for Cherry and G stands for Gateron, considering the G axis is cheaper.

The boards are cheap, but shipping may cost a bit. I didn't go through a proxy and it was $22 to ship to the US. I'm not sure if proxies are any cheaper.

It's possible that G-axis means Gateron. You might be able to contact the vendor and ask for a picture of it.

[TehKitteh]

Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm


I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).

Wow, am I correct in saying that this board costs $60 USD? If so, then for that price I might as well take my chances with whatever G-Axis means... my only fear is that C stands for Cherry and G stands for Gateron, considering the G axis is cheaper.

The boards are cheap, but shipping may cost a bit. I didn't go through a proxy and it was $22 to ship to the US. I'm not sure if proxies are any cheaper.

It's possible that G-axis means Gateron. You might be able to contact the vendor and ask for a picture of it.

Alright, thanks for all the help. I should be able to figure it out from here.

[FLFisherman]

Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm


I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).

Wow, am I correct in saying that this board costs $60 USD? If so, then for that price I might as well take my chances with whatever G-Axis means... my only fear is that C stands for Cherry and G stands for Gateron, considering the G axis is cheaper.

The boards are cheap, but shipping may cost a bit. I didn't go through a proxy and it was $22 to ship to the US. I'm not sure if proxies are any cheaper.

It's possible that G-axis means Gateron. You might be able to contact the vendor and ask for a picture of it.

Alright, thanks for all the help. I should be able to figure it out from here.

Good luck! Keep me posted. I think this could be a fun little board if it works properly.

[tofgerl]

I use Bhiner, and have been very happy. I've only ordered twice - one for some PCBs (Satan GH60) and one for cheap plastic cases. Both times I paid something like 5 USD to Bhiner and a bit over 20 USD for shipping to Norway. DHL with the PCBs, China Post the cases. PCBs were obviously faster

[bocahgundul]

are g80-1814 use a vintage clear switches or just modern clear switches? btw its the winkeyless version of g80-1800 

Depends on the date code I suppose. And how much usage it's seen. I'd post a picture of the label and ask someone who's really into Cherry like photekq if the know what the date is.

Any update bro? 

Lol...did you take a picture like I suggested? Can't help you without the label.
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I'm sorry I will ask the seller to post some label 

[hwood34]

I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?

[TehKitteh]

Good luck! Keep me posted. I think this could be a fun little board if it works properly.

Well, turns out that G-axis did indeed refer to Gateron switches. Helpful tip for anyone purchasing from Taobao in the future. I'm glad I didn't just take a chance on that, because I don't think I would have been as happy with Gaterons  ). I'll probably buy this board soon, as it looks pretty nifty. Thanks again for the help 

[Melvang]

I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?

I hear a lot about the SKCM blues, I believe they are the complicated blues.  The other one that I believe to be more rare is the tactile browns.  Sharper and larger bump than MX clears.

[E3E]

I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?

I hear a lot about the SKCM blues, I believe they are the complicated blues.  The other one that I believe to be more rare is the tactile browns.  Sharper and larger bump than MX clears.

The rarest of the Alps switches are Alps SKCL (linear) brown and Alps SKCM (tactile) greens.

Amber and Tac Brown can be found in specific computers that are always around, just expensive most of the time.

I've got a laptop in the mail, Broadwell 8T, that has SKCL (linear) Cream switches. These are a little less common than Amber and tac Brown, but also have that perk of ALWAYS being in a specific model.

In otherwards, like with the AEK and Apple Standard Keyboard in relation to orange Alps, IF these more or less readily available models did not exist with these switches, then Orange, Amber, Tac Brown, and Linear Cream would all be very mythical switches.

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What makes blues so frustrating to find is that there are only a small few models of keyboards that are sure to have them, most of which being seldomly seen to boot, and the rest being a gamble and knowing the serial number range to look out for as well as FCC IDs, etc.

The Leading Edge DC-2014 and NEC APC HE410 (not the HE410E) are the most common ones that I know of that have them for sure. There are more, but these are the most common examples.  Blue alps are scarce compared to most of the other Alps varieties, but even more so, they are desirable, so any time they do come around in the open, they are often snapped up quickly.

[hwood34]

I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?

I hear a lot about the SKCM blues, I believe they are the complicated blues.  The other one that I believe to be more rare is the tactile browns.  Sharper and larger bump than MX clears.

The rarest of the Alps switches are Alps SKCL (linear) brown and Alps SKCM (tactile) greens.

Amber and Tac Brown can be found in specific computers that are always around, just expensive most of the time.

I've got a laptop in the mail, Broadwell 8T, that has SKCL (linear) Cream switches. These are a little less common than Amber and tac Brown, but also have that perk of ALWAYS being in a specific model.

In otherwards, like with the AEK in relation to orange Alps, IF these models did not exist with these switches, then Amber, Tac Brown, and Linear Cream would all be very mythical switches.

So what would be a tactile switch that's solid but also not too difficult to find?

[E3E]

I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?

I hear a lot about the SKCM blues, I believe they are the complicated blues.  The other one that I believe to be more rare is the tactile browns.  Sharper and larger bump than MX clears.

The rarest of the Alps switches are Alps SKCL (linear) brown and Alps SKCM (tactile) greens.

Amber and Tac Brown can be found in specific computers that are always around, just expensive most of the time.

I've got a laptop in the mail, Broadwell 8T, that has SKCL (linear) Cream switches. These are a little less common than Amber and tac Brown, but also have that perk of ALWAYS being in a specific model.

In otherwards, like with the AEK in relation to orange Alps, IF these models did not exist with these switches, then Amber, Tac Brown, and Linear Cream would all be very mythical switches.

So what would be a tactile switch that's solid but also not too difficult to find?

I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, it's my favorite tactile switch by far.

Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

It's true that SKCM brown is similar to Topre though. If a Topre switch was made out of solid plastic components instead of cup rubber. It has a very rounded tactility. SKCM Greens are similar here too, but they aren't as heavy.

[hwood34]

I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, is my favorite tactile switch by far.

Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

Alright, thanks!

[E3E]

I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, is my favorite tactile switch by far.

Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

Alright, thanks!

For sure man. Definitely show off any Alps builds if you decide to go for some!

[CPTBadAss]

I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, is my favorite tactile switch by far.

Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

Alright, thanks!

I really like Orange SKCM. I didn't really like Salmon personally but a lot of people do. I think Blacks aren't bad if you clean and lube them. But also don't forget about Matias Quiet Click. I think it's a really underrated switch. I plan on using them in a build this year.

[hwood34]

I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, is my favorite tactile switch by far.

Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

Alright, thanks!

I really like Orange SKCM. I didn't really like Salmon personally but a lot of people do. I think Blacks aren't bad if you clean and lube them. But also don't forget about Matias Quiet Click. I think it's a really underrated switch. I plan on using them in a build this year.

Oh yea, I always forget about the Matiases. Thanks!

[jerue]

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

[Steezus]

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.

[alienman82]

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[Steezus]

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe

Correct for what they say true "vintage" browns, the rest they refer to "old" browns but still a lot better than newer ones.

[alienman82]

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[hwood34]

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe

Just make sure to wait and only answer if you're sure of the answer. I seem to recall another member who I won't name who had a habit of spreading misinformation in this thread and it became a tad tiresome to have to correct him constantly. Not that you have a habit of doing this, more just a reminder to everyone

[Steezus]

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe

Just make sure to wait and only answer if you're sure of the answer. I seem to recall another member who I won't name who had a habit of spreading misinformation in this thread and it became a tad tiresome to have to correct him constantly. Not that you have a habit of doing this, more just a reminder to everyone

If this information is wrong then why don't you correct it?

[hwood34]

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe

Correct for what they say true "vintage" browns, the rest they refer to "old" browns but still a lot better than newer ones.

Agreed.  I'm not too picky about that.  I've had small logo mx Blues that felt way better than large logos blues.  It really varies board to board.

Trust me, some people definitely are . But yea, condition is also huge. But I don't really mind for tactile switches whether it's real vintage model or not, as long as they're relatively worn

[hwood34]

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe

Just make sure to wait and only answer if you're sure of the answer. I seem to recall another member who I won't name who had a habit of spreading misinformation in this thread and it became a tad tiresome to have to correct him constantly. Not that you have a habit of doing this, more just a reminder to everyone

If this information is wrong then why don't you correct it?

I will if I see it, but back in the days when TS liked to post on here a ton, it was basically constant corrections. Got a bit tiresome

[alienman82]

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[hwood34]

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.

What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe

Just make sure to wait and only answer if you're sure of the answer. I seem to recall another member who I won't name who had a habit of spreading misinformation in this thread and it became a tad tiresome to have to correct him constantly. Not that you have a habit of doing this, more just a reminder to everyone

If this information is wrong then why don't you correct it?

I will if I see it, but back in the days when TS liked to post on here a ton, it was basically constant corrections. Got a bit tiresome

Okay well when it's said "I believe" take it with a gain of salt.  Ask photekq if you you're feeling it

I wasn't saying you were wrong. I quoted both the (what I believe to be) right and wrong answer. Sorry if there was some misunderstanding

[Steezus]

I worded the first part wrong however, I meant to say starting in '92, not pre '92. For "vintage" browns it would be '92-'94 and would be the old Kinesis, g80-5000, and g80-1838. You're best chance of finding older browns would be in a g80-11800 series.

[hwood34]

I worded the first part wrong however, I meant to say starting in '92, not pre '92. For "vintage" browns it would be '92-'94 and would be the old Kinesis, g80-5000, and g80-1838. You're best chance of finding older browns would be in a g80-11800 series.

And frankly, and Cherry switches you can find pre-'95 should be sufficiently worn to feel at least decently smooth.

[alienman82]

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[jerue]

I worded the first part wrong however, I meant to say starting in '92, not pre '92. For "vintage" browns it would be '92-'94 and would be the old Kinesis, g80-5000, and g80-1838. You're best chance of finding older browns would be in a g80-11800 series.

And frankly, and Cherry switches you can find pre-'95 should be sufficiently worn to feel at least decently smooth.

Thanks. Yea I would not be terribly worried about "true vintage" status or not, just that they're worn/old enough to not feel like modern MX browns. I'll try to look into a 1838 or 11800 at some point.

[E3E]

Some people get really wound up when it comes to finding large logo vs small logo switches, but to be honest, I think the distinction between "vintage" and "old" matters little. I've had a friend of mine say that my worn-in 'old' MX clears were smoother than some "vintage"large logo MX clears that he also had.

So, in my humble opinion, vintage vs old is more hype than fact, and it's more about the plastics having been worn down. As we all know from typing on shined caps, texture can be quite easily worn down over the span of a decade or less, haha.

[hwood34]

So the Matias Quiet Pro switches are solid switches as far as tactile ALPS go? And what are some of the more common ALPS boards with standard ANSI layouts that one could use to grab a set off of?

edit: besides AT101s, I'm not really a fan of the legends

[E3E]

So the Matias Quiet Pro switches are solid switches as far as tactile ALPS go? And what are some of the more common ALPS boards with standard ANSI layouts that one could use to grab a set off of?

edit: besides AT101s, I'm not really a fan of the legends

You do mean the Dell AT101s, right? There's also the SGI Granite, but it has an odd font too.

Other than that, the Omnikey 101 sometimes comes with an ANSI layout, but if you want something to fit on the typically supported layout for Korean customs (ie, Dell AT101 style or Alps ANSI is I also call it, because the caps are likely Alps manufactured)...

The next most common boards would be the Acer 6011 and 6311-K the latter has Acer switches but is Alps compatible.  The former is white Alps, but they are somewhat hard to find. Some AT&T boards rebrands are Acers too and have ANSI Alps caps.

The main distinction of Alps ANSI vs Tai Hao ANSI (which is very rare and I don't know of any other aside from the Omnikey), is that Alps always uses a 1.5u stepped Caps Lock. Tai Hao doesn't use a stepped Caps Lock.

The IBM P70 is the only Alps compatible board I know of with a 1.25u stepped caps lock, like Cherry, but that's a bit irrelevant here. 

[hwood34]

So the Matias Quiet Pro switches are solid switches as far as tactile ALPS go? And what are some of the more common ALPS boards with standard ANSI layouts that one could use to grab a set off of?

edit: besides AT101s, I'm not really a fan of the legends

You do mean the Dell AT101s, right? There's also the SGI Granite, but it has an odd font too.

Other than that, the Omnikey 101 sometimes comes with an ANSI layout, but if you want something to fit on the typically supported layout for Korean customs (ie, Dell AT101 style or Alps ANSI is I also call it, because the caps are likely Alps manufactured)...

The next most common boards would be the Acer 6011 and 6311-K the latter has Acer switches but is Alps compatible.  The former is white Alps, but they are somewhat hard to find. Some AT&T boards rebrands are Acers too and have ANSI Alps caps.

The main distinction of Alps ANSI vs Tai Hao ANSI (which is very rare and I don't know of any other aside from the Omnikey), is that Alps always uses a 1.5u stepped Caps Lock. Tai Hao doesn't use a stepped Caps Lock.

The IBM P70 is the only Alps compatible board I know of with a 1.25u stepped caps lock, like Cherry, but that's a bit irrelevant here. 

Thanks for all the info!

[thatllbeme]

When pressing down on Gateron switches off-center (ie. on the sides of the keycap rather than the center), there's a bit of a scratchy feeling as it depresses. Would lubing the sides of the slider/stem fix that?

[bocahgundul]

When pressing down on Gateron switches off-center (ie. on the sides of the keycap rather than the center), there's a bit of a scratchy feeling as it depresses. Would lubing the sides of the slider/stem fix that?

lubing switches is always worth the extra work! 

[SpAmRaY]

When pressing down on Gateron switches off-center (ie. on the sides of the keycap rather than the center), there's a bit of a scratchy feeling as it depresses. Would lubing the sides of the slider/stem fix that?

lubing switches is always worth the extra work! 

No it's not, especially if you have to desolder to lube.

Many times just using the keyboard for a few weeks helps just as much.

[tofgerl]

You could also pour a can of coke into the keyboard. Won't help with the scratching, but you'll stop noticing it...

[CPTBadAss]

So the Matias Quiet Pro switches are solid switches as far as tactile ALPS go? And what are some of the more common ALPS boards with standard ANSI layouts that one could use to grab a set off of?

edit: besides AT101s, I'm not really a fan of the legends

Don't forget about the V60 and V80 if you're into modern boards. And yes, I really like the Matias Quiet switches. E3E got the vintage boards with a decent layout on lock.

Edit: Oops, misread the question but I'll leave my reply up anyways. I think it's great to have some modern alps options besides Matias.

When pressing down on Gateron switches off-center (ie. on the sides of the keycap rather than the center), there's a bit of a scratchy feeling as it depresses. Would lubing the sides of the slider/stem fix that?

Lube or wear would help.

[Blaise170]

The Apple Extended Keyboard I and II both have standard layouts as well.

[hwood34]

Does anyone have some sort of diagram with the dimensions and screw hole placements of a standard 1800 PCB?

[E3E]

Cross post from "what did you get in the mail today" since it's more relevant to ask here:


Whoa, guys... Have you seen this kind of variation in contact leaves?

This is vintage MX white vs old MX clears







I first noticed this when the zealio's contacts were for some reason standing out, then I glanced at the opened vintage MX whites and had a *ding* moment.

[hwood34]

So what sort of LEDs do you use in the Redscarfs for RGB?