Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 19 December 2017, 15:39:27
2019-03-07 UPDATE - Due to CATastrophe (Masha the cat spilled tea on my MacBook) I have to delay the launch by a few days. March 13 is the day!
2019-02-28 UPDATE - Buy goes live March 8, 2019. More details will be added to the site next week. We have a few surprises up our sleeve on this one! Stay tuned.
2019-01-23 UPDATE - New kits loaded to the page. Slight changes. No orange relegendable tops will be available, GMK cannot make them. Also, Ive removed the blue spacebars to keep costs reasonable. I listened to as much feedback as I could and added what could be added. Lets see what you think.
2019-01-03 UPDATE - Happy New Year! Im going to be working on the kits this week and hopefully have something solid very soon. Stay tuned and keep voicing your opinion. Thanks!
Hey everybody. You thought this was dead, but its not. I apologize for the long delays in this. Between delays from projects we have in the pipe to things going on in my personal life (started a new brick and mortar business, soon to be moving into a new house AND I have 2 kids) this got delayed longer than I wanted.
First off, thank you for all of your feedback to date. I have listened. One thing that is settled is that the base kit will be OG mods and orange will be in their own kit.
I cant make promises as to a timeline. Im thinking early 2019 at this point. Were about to run GMK DMG (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97002.msg2649268#msg2649268), were waiting on Keyreative to finish some manufacturing details for Sanctuary Rebirth (https://jebbra.net/Sanctuary-Rebirth), and were waiting on color samples for Classic Space (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97012.0). Needless to say, TKC has alot in the works, just not much is ready. I will slip this set in between GMK DMG and whatever set Keyreative is ready to run next. I dont need much of a buffer between them, so by the time DMG is wrapping up, we can get Skidata MkII going. Ive left you waiting long enough. As always, proxies will be set up in Europe and Asia.
For me the trickiest thing for this (and with any keyset we run) is getting the balance correct. Compatibility, offerings (windowed keys, ISO support, color options), hitting MOQ, and price is a delicate balance, especially with GMK. This set is something VERY special to me, Im sure Im not alone when I say that Skidata is one of my favorite GMK sets of all time. Some of you have commented below sharing that sentiment. So lets get this right. The sets Ive created below (please ignore the icons, KLE doesnt make them right, I dont have time to make this is Illustrator, and Im not paying for renders yet) and give me your thoughts on what we've missed, and what can go so we can keep the price reasonable. I did NOT mock up the relegendables kit but it WILL make an appearance, as long as I can convince GMK to make them.
See below what needs to be done.
From the original post:
Skidata+ is one of my favorite sets of all time. I remember when I bought the pre-order for the full kit and dropped almost $400, I had reservations but I wanted it SO bad that I didn't care. I absolutely love it.
Ive been in and out of the thread for the original GB for the set and as many of you know, there are a handful (or more) people who had issues with their orders and never got resolution.
This post has a few intentions:
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Announce that I will be running this set later this year, probably Q2WHOOPS - Q1 2019 OR SOONER - See what changes to the first round need to be made and what the majority would like to see. IN PROGRESS
- Figure out what issues people had with their orders in R1 and see what I can do to help resolve those issues. COMPLETE
- See if people are interested in buying GMK Skidata. SIKE! Thats a joke, y'all know you want one! IN PROGRESS
- Get a name for this group buy. Skidata ______ ? Contest will be ran with the submissions. SkIIdata (please give feedback in the form.Thanks for the suggestion, I didnt collect usernames like a dumbass so Ill email you for it, that or chime in please. LOVE the idea
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Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 19 December 2017, 15:43:35
Post by: Myoth on Tue, 19 December 2017, 15:45:05
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 19 December 2017, 15:47:27
Post by: autobot on Tue, 19 December 2017, 15:50:45
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:18:50
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:24:05
Post by: avid on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:34:16
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:38:31
prefer separate the orange and blue mods as another kit like the original GB
Yup I agree with this.
I am definitely in. This plus terminal? Man 2018 looking bright already!
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 19 December 2017, 17:06:43
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 19 December 2017, 17:20:13
I would also like to see some more stuff added to support the new layouts that are becoming more popular (like 40%, orthos, split spacebars etc etc...)
I know you did an Ergodox kit in the first run of GMK Terminal, perhaps running that kit again along this, there are a fair number of Ergodox users around, and also offer a kit for 40% and/or ortho users like Planck or Preonic. I think Evangs from Van Keyboards ran a successful 40% add on kit for GMK9009 recently, so there probably is sufficient demand. Split spacebar kits with convex small spacebar sizes would be good too! I really liked having the convex 2u spacebar to use with my Planck, would be good to find out if GMK can offer convex spacebars in other sizes too (currently they only have the common big spacebars and 1u/2u keys in convex profile, iirc)
Also please consider offering the International Essentials kit again, I'd much rather having the kit offered and not meet MOQ rather than not having one at all :))
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 19 December 2017, 17:30:30
R5 for a change.Actually og skidata doesn't feature R5 caps, it only came with row 4 caps
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 19 December 2017, 17:31:12
That'd be the change.R5 for a change.Actually og skidata doesn't feature R5 caps, it only came with row 4 caps
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 19 December 2017, 18:02:08
Row 5 is nice but as it adds at least 12 caps which are mostly twice in the set it may increase the price by a lot
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 19 December 2017, 18:03:53
Oh haha, I shouldn't post before my first coffee. I thought it refers to round 1 of this gmk set.
Row 5 is nice but as it adds at least 12 caps which are mostly twice in the set it may increase the price by a lot
It would. And the price isn’t going to be fantastic if we run 2 mod kits for both colors unless we sell a ton of them.
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 19 December 2017, 18:09:10
Row 5 is nice but as it adds at least 12 caps which are mostly twice in the set it may increase the price by a lotSadly, you're very right, furthermore R5 seems to cost more than R4.
Despite I always ask for R5, I never actually truly expect to see it made.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 19 December 2017, 18:10:03
R5 for a change.
Maybe as a separate kit, but I wouldn't want to have R5 in the base kit, they're a cool novelty and a nice historical curiosity, but I don't feel that they work nearly as well as R4. The agressive keytop angle tends to mean that I'm applying force to the switch oblique from the switch central axis (kinda orthogonal to the surface of the keytop), so I always feel like I'm getting more friction while using R5 caps. There must be a reason Cherry dropped it from their keycap arrangements.
Perhaps it's just placebo, perhaps not. In any case, I don't really like them for daily use, and wouldn't want it in the base kit. Just my £0.02...
Post by: mike52787 on Tue, 19 December 2017, 18:12:32
Post by: avid on Tue, 19 December 2017, 18:18:07
For orange mods, i really prefer orange spacebar.
I'd like to suggest this kit structure: (even if being ran outside MD, skidata will be a massive success. Compare with 9009)
1. Base-kit all n9 uniform
2. Orange mod kit (with some blues)
3. orange + blue space-bar kit
Also, since everything is stock colors, MOQ is fairly low for such a popular set, so we will reach price breaks.
I feel to many weird keys are being cramped into this set. skidata+ has a beautiful kit design.
-Terminal key. It makes sense for "terminal" but not skidata.
-VIM keys
-8 blank orange keys. Why is there so many blanks oranges?
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 19 December 2017, 18:20:53
Please make the orange mods a separate kit. Many of us prefer the original mods. Also. R5 pleaseeeeee
R5 for a change.
Can one of you guys make a quick mock up to show me exactly what you’re looking for as far as R5 goes? Like which keys and sizes? I assume the bottom row; in which case, to accommodate everyone that’s a lot of keys (a lot of $$$ too)
Post by: mike52787 on Tue, 19 December 2017, 18:22:59
I assume the bottom row; in which case, to accommodate everyone that’s a lot of keys (a lot of $$$ too)
Yeah, that's it. if you could make r5 bottom rows a separate pack, I know I for one would pay extra to get it.
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 19 December 2017, 18:45:16
I'd like to suggest this kit structure: (even if being ran outside MD, skidata will be a massive success. Compare with 9009)
1. Base-kit all n9 uniform
2. Orange mod kit (with some blues)
3. orange + blue space-bar kit
Well, I don't think that it will be as successful as 9009 as this set was run at a very low price whereas tkc sets are normally on the higher end, that will definetly have its influence. But I agree in the set structure and I would take inspiration in the 9009 base kit as it was perfect imo.
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 19 December 2017, 19:00:35
1. base kit with N9 uniform and a few of the "more important" accents to give it its classic look.
2. addon kit with the rest of the orange mods needed to achieve the full orange mod look + other blue accents (if not already included in base),
3. blue and orange space bars
4. re-legendables (not interested in those though, personally)
PS: Keep it Q2 if possible, tons of cool boards coming in Q1 (VE.A2, M0110, CA66, TKC's own 1800, Samoyed, etc), I think a lot of people are still going to be recuperating from Christmas time and all that too.
Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 19 December 2017, 19:18:17
Taking Avid's response, I'd like to see this regarding kits:
1. base kit with N9 uniform and a few of the "more important" accents to give it its classic look.
2. addon kit with the rest of the orange mods needed to achieve the full orange mod look + other blue accents (if not already included in base),
3. blue and orange space bars
4. re-legendables (not interested in those though, personally)
PS: Keep it Q2 if possible, tons of cool boards coming in Q1 (VE.A2, M0110, CA66, TKC's own 1800, Samoyed, etc), I think a lot of people are still going to be recuperating from Christmas time and all that too.
All of the above and maybe some R5 love.
And please, no giant arrow backspace icon?
(https://i.imgur.com/PvHyK5s_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 19 December 2017, 19:22:42
Please make the orange mods a separate kit. Many of us prefer the original mods. Also. R5 pleaseeeeeeR5 for a change.
Can one of you guys make a quick mock up to show me exactly what you’re looking for as far as R5 goes? Like which keys and sizes? I assume the bottom row; in which case, to accommodate everyone that’s a lot of keys (a lot of $$$ too)
OG Cherry boards that had R5 only had like 4 R5 sizes ever made iirc:
1u (self-explanatory, these went into the arrow keys and numpad .)
1.5u (Ctrl + Alt)
2u (Numpad 0)
2u vertical (Numpad Enter, this is a bit of a special case, it is distinct from modern Numpad Enter so I include it here, not sure how relevant that is)
Not really something I'd consider using on a regular basis, nice to have it offered, but I definitely would not want it in the base kit.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 19 December 2017, 19:39:07
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Tue, 19 December 2017, 19:40:23
Also, I dig the orange mods being in the base set. I personally think the orange is what made this set stand out so much for me in the first place.
Now, my one begging request... PLEASE is there any chance to get a 6u spacebar included? Either in base or an add on?
edit: I mean in the N9 color.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 19 December 2017, 19:51:38
R5 would be interesting as well..
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 19 December 2017, 20:02:43
For name SkIIdata or Skidata Mk. II. Either one of these to symbolize a second run and provide some distance from the original run
Also, I dig the orange mods being in the base set. I personally think the orange is what made this set stand out so much for me in the first place.
Now, my one begging request... PLEASE is there any chance to get a 6u spacebar included? Either in base or an add on?
edit: I mean in the N9 color.
Im with you on the orange mods, but looks as though the masses want it the other way around. There is still plenty of time to figure out what everyone wants.
Are you actively looking for an N9 6u spacebar? Cause if you are, I have a spare you can have.
Post by: nickysan92 on Tue, 19 December 2017, 20:11:29
2. Base kit with N9 as echoed by the rest, with add-on orange mods. Would prefer the same applied to spacebars with the base kit having just N9 spacebars, and the addons having the blue+orange spacebar.
Thank you for doing this.
Post by: Devkey on Tue, 19 December 2017, 21:11:09
Post by: mrkevint on Tue, 19 December 2017, 21:48:11
I love the OG Skidata look. Plus it would allow people with the Skidata+ base kit to just buy the mods (like me) :P
Post by: finalarcadia on Tue, 19 December 2017, 21:56:06
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Post by: kmba on Tue, 19 December 2017, 22:34:13
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 20 December 2017, 05:06:49
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 20 December 2017, 05:58:08
R5 mockup (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_x:11.75&c=%23393b3b&t=%23ee6d00&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_a:6&w:1.5%3B&=Control&=Win&_w:1.5%3B&=Alt&_t=%23000000&a:7&f:8&w:1.25&d:true%3B&=x2&_x:0.25&t=%23ee6d00&a:4&f:3%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel%3B&@_y:0.75&x:16.25&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_a:6&w:1.5%3B&=Control&=Win&_w:1.5%3B&=Alt&_x:0.5&w:1.5%3B&=Alt%20Gr&=Fn&_w:1.5%3B&=Control&_x:1.5&a:4%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel).
Probably just a limitation if kle, but the R5 numpad enter should be an icon like the rest of the set instead of just "enter".
Post by: hansichen on Wed, 20 December 2017, 06:06:55
Post by: kmba on Wed, 20 December 2017, 06:33:59
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 20 December 2017, 07:12:14
Yeah, didn't mean to match legends as well. It should only give an idea about the number of caps needed.R5 mockup (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_x:11.75&c=%23393b3b&t=%23ee6d00&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_a:6&w:1.5%3B&=Control&=Win&_w:1.5%3B&=Alt&_t=%23000000&a:7&f:8&w:1.25&d:true%3B&=x2&_x:0.25&t=%23ee6d00&a:4&f:3%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel%3B&@_y:0.75&x:16.25&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_a:6&w:1.5%3B&=Control&=Win&_w:1.5%3B&=Alt&_x:0.5&w:1.5%3B&=Alt%20Gr&=Fn&_w:1.5%3B&=Control&_x:1.5&a:4%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel).
Probably just a limitation if kle, but the R5 numpad enter should be an icon like the rest of the set instead of just "enter".
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 20 December 2017, 07:32:50
Also would like full Yuri icon mods.
Almost forgot about this. I'd really like it if one of the addon kits (as I assume it'd be too bold a move to make them base) included the remaining Icon mods necessary for the bottom row using Yuri moulds. I think that makes it much more cohesive than the "standard" way of doing icon mods.
Post by: tron on Wed, 20 December 2017, 10:30:02
1. R5 would be a great addition.
2. Base kit with N9 as echoed by the rest, with add-on orange mods. Would prefer the same applied to spacebars with the base kit having just N9 spacebars, and the addons having the blue+orange spacebar.
Thank you for doing this.
This sounds great. Better to have a large base kit with standard+R5 and keep the orange mods, spacebars, etc as separate kits.
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 20 December 2017, 12:17:45
R5 mockup (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_x:11.75&c=%23393b3b&t=%23ee6d00&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_a:6&w:1.5%3B&=Control&=Win&_w:1.5%3B&=Alt&_t=%23000000&a:7&f:8&w:1.25&d:true%3B&=x2&_x:0.25&t=%23ee6d00&a:4&f:3%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel%3B&@_y:0.75&x:16.25&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_a:6&w:1.5%3B&=Control&=Win&_w:1.5%3B&=Alt&_x:0.5&w:1.5%3B&=Alt%20Gr&=Fn&_w:1.5%3B&=Control&_x:1.5&a:4%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel).
Thanks, TalkingTree.
Im going to work on some new mockups and hopefully get some quotes out to GMK after the holidays wind down.
Thanks everyone who has commented and contributed their thoughts and opinions. Keep them coming!
Post by: Hazzula on Wed, 20 December 2017, 12:19:18
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Post by: Kavik on Wed, 20 December 2017, 13:27:18
Post by: Pell99 on Wed, 20 December 2017, 13:32:11
I want the base and the orange & blue point keycap. Like a Honeywell set.
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Wed, 20 December 2017, 17:30:46
For name SkIIdata or Skidata Mk. II. Either one of these to symbolize a second run and provide some distance from the original run
Also, I dig the orange mods being in the base set. I personally think the orange is what made this set stand out so much for me in the first place.
Now, my one begging request... PLEASE is there any chance to get a 6u spacebar included? Either in base or an add on?
edit: I mean in the N9 color.
Im with you on the orange mods, but looks as though the masses want it the other way around. There is still plenty of time to figure out what everyone wants.
Are you actively looking for an N9 6u spacebar? Cause if you are, I have a spare you can have.
I really appreciate that gesture! Not actively looking. I just switched to a Tina-A as my main board, which means that all sets that come out that I want to buy I really want a matching 6u spacebar for.
Post by: _rubik on Wed, 20 December 2017, 17:39:53
Also, does anyone know where to get those clear plastic top caps that can be labeled for that OG skidata feel?
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 20 December 2017, 19:52:32
I am ALWAYS interested in some good ole skidata. Of course, I'd be more interested in the original mods and not the orange ones.
Also, does anyone know where to get those clear plastic top caps that can be labeled for that OG skidata feel?
They’re called relegendables, they were offered as a kit in the original round. I plan on giving it a go with R2.
Post by: ye_cole on Wed, 20 December 2017, 20:36:01
Quote
PS: Keep it Q2 if possible, tons of cool boards coming in Q1 (VE.A2, M0110, CA66, TKC's own 1800, Samoyed, etc), I think a lot of people are still going to be recuperating from Christmas time and all that too.
Source for V.EA2?
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 20 December 2017, 20:45:21
QuotePS: Keep it Q2 if possible, tons of cool boards coming in Q1 (VE.A2, M0110, CA66, TKC's own 1800, Samoyed, etc), I think a lot of people are still going to be recuperating from Christmas time and all that too.
Source for V.EA2?
The OP in the SaiB group buy mentioned it. Not sure if there are any other sources.
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 20 December 2017, 21:41:44
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 20 December 2017, 22:49:53
Tax returns are incoming bois
But your retirement!
Post by: _rubik on Wed, 20 December 2017, 22:57:29
I am ALWAYS interested in some good ole skidata. Of course, I'd be more interested in the original mods and not the orange ones.
Also, does anyone know where to get those clear plastic top caps that can be labeled for that OG skidata feel?
They’re called relegendables, they were offered as a kit in the original round. I plan on giving it a go with R2.
Oh HELL yes. Should everything line up, I'm totally in.
Post by: poolside on Thu, 21 December 2017, 04:26:00
QuotePS: Keep it Q2 if possible, tons of cool boards coming in Q1 (VE.A2, M0110, CA66, TKC's own 1800, Samoyed, etc), I think a lot of people are still going to be recuperating from Christmas time and all that too.
Source for V.EA2?
The OP in the SaiB group buy mentioned it. Not sure if there are any other sources.
The most recent newsletter entry on the Originative website mentions it too.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 December 2017, 05:54:44
Triumph Adler has been sold on massdrop for 100 USD. It was a 130 key set (more or less) and it had custom colours and it included the massdrop fee.
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 21 December 2017, 08:01:10
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 21 December 2017, 08:08:43
Since this set will be successful by definition, what's keeping you from doing a minimal gb which includes only a standard 100% layout plus the barred F, J, 5? Price should be about 80 usd.
Triumph Adler has been sold on massdrop for 100 USD. It was a 130 key set (more or less) and it had custom colours and it included the massdrop fee.
That was 2-1/2 years ago. The Euro against USD is much higher, manufacturing costs have gone up, and community GBs never reach Massdrop numbers (as TerryMatthews pointed out) Even a 104 key set with no extras will cost more than $80 USD.
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 21 December 2017, 08:14:20
No community GB to date has hit MassDrop levels.
9009 r2 sold like 800 base kits iirc through the 3 different store fronts - not Laser/Nautilus/Carbon level but that's not every set that's been ran through MD; there have been other sets that have sold around that or less (eg. Plum was like 900 iirc? That's the most recent example).
Post by: kmba on Thu, 21 December 2017, 08:30:43
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 December 2017, 08:33:51
Since this set will be successful by definition, what's keeping you from doing a minimal gb which includes only a standard 100% layout plus the barred F, J, 5? Price should be about 80 usd.
Triumph Adler has been sold on massdrop for 100 USD. It was a 130 key set (more or less) and it had custom colours and it included the massdrop fee.
That was 2-1/2 years ago. The Euro against USD is much higher, manufacturing costs have gone up, and community GBs never reach Massdrop numbers (as TerryMatthews pointed out) Even a 104 key set with no extras will cost more than $80 USD.
I don't agree to any of those points.
The only thing to do is to ask GMK for a quote.
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 21 December 2017, 08:44:45
Doesn't matter. This won't be sub $100 or even $100. And it would sell a lot more at a larger kit with good compatibility than a 108 key set, which barely anyone wants.
Yea I should've read the context before I responded to Terry, I stand by what I said but in relation to the discussion at hand I wholeheartedly disagree with Giorgio's point. Price is irrelevant, no one would buy a standard 108 key set these days, not even something as amazing as Skidata.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 December 2017, 09:27:37
Doesn't matter. This won't be sub $100 or even $100. And it would sell a lot more at a larger kit with good compatibility than a 108 key set, which barely anyone wants.
Yea I should've read the context before I responded to Terry, I stand by what I said but in relation to the discussion at hand I wholeheartedly disagree with Giorgio's point. Price is irrelevant, no one would buy a standard 108 key set these days, not even something as amazing as Skidata.
Well, they sell really a lot of enjoypbt keysets, that have the same cost and the same, standard, keys.
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 21 December 2017, 10:05:39
Well, they sell really a lot of enjoypbt keysets, that have the same cost and the same, standard, keys.
Firstly PBT appeals to a different market than GMK does (not fully, but to an extent), secondly take this from KBDfans as an example - https://kbdfans.cn/collections/keycaps/products/gbenjoypbt-forgive-132key-keycaps way more than 108 keys, less than $90 with free shipping. Their Japan/korean/RUS sets sell for like 75 bucks nowadays and even those have more than 108 keys usually depending on where you buy.
It's a bad idea, I mean I'm all for extravagant concepts but let's be honest here. Do we want a set with Terminal-like compatibility for $150~ or do we want a scuffed walmart set in 2018 that covers barely anything other than standard 108 for $100 (which isn't even realistic imo)? I'm not TKC but I'd say it's not even up for discussion and I'd be surprised if the latter were to hit MOQ, even with a set like Skidata. So weird to me that you'd even suggest it because I can't see the why no matter how hard I try.
Edit: formatting
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 21 December 2017, 10:24:11
Other than that though, I would love to see this run again as I miss my old set, and I also regret that I never went in for the relegendables so I would definitely be in for at least base + relegendables if they were an option.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 December 2017, 10:32:43
Has Karura been contacted about this and/or signed off on it? Even if his support after the GB has been poor, he should still have a say on if this runs again or not.
Other than that though, I would love to see this run again as I miss my old set, and I also regret that I never went in for the relegendables so I would definitely be in for at least base + relegendables if they were an option.
Skidata is a trademarked name. We shoudn't even call it skidata, since it belongs to a german company.
PS Who is Karura.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 December 2017, 10:34:47
Well, they sell really a lot of enjoypbt keysets, that have the same cost and the same, standard, keys.
Firstly PBT appeals to a different market than GMK does (not fully, but to an extent), secondly take this from KBDfans as an example - https://kbdfans.cn/collections/keycaps/products/gbenjoypbt-forgive-132key-keycaps way more than 108 keys, less than $90 with free shipping. Their Japan/korean/RUS sets sell for like 75 bucks nowadays and even those have more than 108 keys usually depending on where you buy.
It's a bad idea, I mean I'm all for extravagant concepts but let's be honest here. Do we want a set with Terminal-like compatibility for $150~ or do we want a scuffed walmart set in 2018 that covers barely anything other than standard 108 for $100 (which isn't even realistic imo)? I'm not TKC but I'd say it's not even up for discussion and I'd be surprised if the latter were to hit MOQ, even with a set like Skidata. So weird to me that you'd even suggest it because I can't see the why no matter how hard I try.
The older enjoypbt keycaps had just a standard ansi layout, I was referring to those.
Then a skidata with the same keys of Triumph Adler could be interesting. Remove the 3 extra spacebars, which cost 2.5 USD each, remove the massdrop slice, and the you have 80 USD.
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 21 December 2017, 10:50:14
Has Karura been contacted about this and/or signed off on it? Even if his support after the GB has been poor, he should still have a say on if this runs again or not.
Did Karura seek approval from GMK Cherry or SKIDATA?
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 21 December 2017, 11:05:47
Has Karura been contacted about this and/or signed off on it? Even if his support after the GB has been poor, he should still have a say on if this runs again or not.
Other than that though, I would love to see this run again as I miss my old set, and I also regret that I never went in for the relegendables so I would definitely be in for at least base + relegendables if they were an option.
Skidata is a trademarked name. We shoudn't even call it skidata, since it belongs to a german company.
PS Who is Karura.
That may be why it was originally run as Skidata+ but I'm not sure if that would avoid a trademark dispute. Also, Karura was the original designer of the set and the one who mainly ran the GB, but there were a lot of other people involved as well.
Has Karura been contacted about this and/or signed off on it? Even if his support after the GB has been poor, he should still have a say on if this runs again or not.
Did Karura seek approval from GMK Cherry or SKIDATA?
I have no idea, maybe someone should ya know, ask him about that and rerunning it before just going ahead? I mean, in the past it seemed that there was usually some sort of unspoken rule that when rerunning a set you asked for permission of the original designer/runner before going ahead with it. Maybe we're past that, but just seems like the right things to do, if at all possible.
Post by: hansichen on Thu, 21 December 2017, 11:08:22
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 21 December 2017, 11:30:56
Has Karura been contacted about this and/or signed off on it? Even if his support after the GB has been poor, he should still have a say on if this runs again or not.
Other than that though, I would love to see this run again as I miss my old set, and I also regret that I never went in for the relegendables so I would definitely be in for at least base + relegendables if they were an option.
Skidata is a trademarked name. We shoudn't even call it skidata, since it belongs to a german company.
PS Who is Karura.
That may be why it was originally run as Skidata+ but I'm not sure if that would avoid a trademark dispute. Also, Karura was the original designer of the set and the one who mainly ran the GB, but there were a lot of other people involved as well.Has Karura been contacted about this and/or signed off on it? Even if his support after the GB has been poor, he should still have a say on if this runs again or not.
Did Karura seek approval from GMK Cherry or SKIDATA?
I have no idea, maybe someone should ya know, ask him about that and rerunning it before just going ahead? I mean, in the past it seemed that there was usually some sort of unspoken rule that when rerunning a set you asked for permission of the original designer/runner before going ahead with it. Maybe we're past that, but just seems like the right things to do, if at all possible.
I spoke to him. Everything is fine.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 December 2017, 11:33:19
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4809%3A589q2r.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=skidata&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
let's call it:
- skydata, since it isn't trademarked ;D
- skiduty
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 21 December 2017, 11:36:41
skidata
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4809%3A589q2r.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=skidata&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
Thanks for your input Giorgio.
GMK TA was a few years ago. Don't expect to see an $80 base set. I couldn't even sell dye subbed PBT sets for that price and stay in business much less GMK.
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 21 December 2017, 11:45:48
I have no idea, maybe someone should ya know, ask him about that and rerunning it before just going ahead? I mean, in the past it seemed that there was usually some sort of unspoken rule that when rerunning a set you asked for permission of the original designer/runner before going ahead with it. Maybe we're past that, but just seems like the right things to do, if at all possible.
(Not speaking on behalf of TKC, just as myself)
Emphasis added. I think, for me, this is the crux of the issue. This isn't Karura's design. One could argue that the specific layouts offered were Karura's, but there again if you look at the render in the IC this is definitely not R2 of SKIDATA (Which I will expound further on in a minute). These are stock colors, and if they belonged to anyone they belonged to Cherry which means GMK acquired them with the tooling.
If this were an original design, or we duplicated the layouts 100%, or we duplicated original novelties, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly that IP was being stolen without the permission of the original designer.
I don't think simply running a set entitles you to anything. Does Originative own White on Black? Because that's what you're implying here - that simply by running WoB Originative has some sort of control over it's future - which to me is insane. Running or rerunning a public domain set is no different that 16 different publishers running editions of Gulliver's Travels. Or what about situations where the designer and runner are different people. Is MiTo obligated to run Laser at MassDrop until the end of time because they ran it once (Setting aside any contract issues we would have no knowledge of). Is Cocobrais obligated to continue to run Signal at the site that's running it just because they are running it now? I think the answer to both, both personally and by the community is no.
Going back to the genesis of this set, I looked at the crazy prices SKIDATA and the color kit was commanding and said to TKC that we needed to put something together. My thought was this:
Base alphas plus color kit was obviously the more popular choice - by virtue of the premium it commands. We put together one large kit with high compatability and offer it for a fair price. TKC already had the Terminal layout which has a ton of compatibility features so I just skinned it with SKIDATA colors and ran with it.
Obviously with the feedback we're seeing here, we need to rethink the mods situation. I didn't expect there to be so much demand for the normal mods based on the r/mm pricing.
I will say though, that I don't think a bunch of child kits is the way to go. They don't sell well, generally, and they drive the price up into the stratosphere relatively speaking. I've still got my SKIDATA R1 extras receipt - north of $300 for all the kits. That's nuts. Even on Massdrop, a ton of child kits can dobule+ your price - looking at you Nautilus.
Anyway, that's my $0.02. I'm going to rework the KLE and see where that gets us.
Giorgio, you're going to be disappointed.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 21 December 2017, 11:49:46
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 21 December 2017, 11:55:13
Base alphas plus color kit was obviously the more popular choice - by virtue of the premium it commands. We put together one large kit with high compatability and offer it for a fair price. TKC already had the Terminal layout which has a ton of compatibility features so I just skinned it with SKIDATA colors and ran with it.
Obviously with the feedback we're seeing here, we need to rethink the mods situation. I didn't expect there to be so much demand for the normal mods based on the r/mm pricing.
I will say though, that I don't think a bunch of child kits is the way to go. They don't sell well, generally, and they drive the price up into the stratosphere relatively speaking. I've still got my SKIDATA R1 extras receipt - north of $300 for all the kits. That's nuts. Even on Massdrop, a ton of child kits can dobule+ your price - looking at you Nautilus.
Firstly, I concur with your notion that IP protection etc here is not really applicable in the way people seem to think it is - Karura doesn't really own the colourway and he just ran with it. Same as you guys are doing now.
Regarding kits, if you permit my opinion - would we be able to see a quote for the "standard" with alphas and OG mods (potentially a few of the more "iconic" accents) + alternative mods kit (with the remainder orange and blue keys) + space bars (blue + orange, everyone wants space bar kits for GMK anyway because of shine) as well as one for your initially proposed layout?
I personally am with you in that I prefer the orange mods look you want to run with, HOWEVER if allowed the possibility I would like to also own OG n9 mods so that I have the chance to swap them around if I feel like it for different builds - this is such a classic and iconic set that I see myself using it on my boards for a long time, being allowed the option to switcheroo (even though that means paying a lot more) I'd take it. Versatility is big.
I'd feel comfortable paying 250-300 for a Terminal sized base kit + extensive orange/blue mods kit + space bars but I am aware I may be in the minority. I think being able to provide some quotes and scout the territory from there may prove very valuable when it comes down to it and sales numbers are what matters.
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 21 December 2017, 12:08:30
Has Karura been contacted about this and/or signed off on it? Even if his support after the GB has been poor, he should still have a say on if this runs again or not.
Other than that though, I would love to see this run again as I miss my old set, and I also regret that I never went in for the relegendables so I would definitely be in for at least base + relegendables if they were an option.
Skidata is a trademarked name. We shoudn't even call it skidata, since it belongs to a german company.
PS Who is Karura.
That may be why it was originally run as Skidata+ but I'm not sure if that would avoid a trademark dispute. Also, Karura was the original designer of the set and the one who mainly ran the GB, but there were a lot of other people involved as well.Has Karura been contacted about this and/or signed off on it? Even if his support after the GB has been poor, he should still have a say on if this runs again or not.
Did Karura seek approval from GMK Cherry or SKIDATA?
I have no idea, maybe someone should ya know, ask him about that and rerunning it before just going ahead? I mean, in the past it seemed that there was usually some sort of unspoken rule that when rerunning a set you asked for permission of the original designer/runner before going ahead with it. Maybe we're past that, but just seems like the right things to do, if at all possible.
I spoke to him. Everything is fine.
Awesome, that was all I was wondering :)
I have no idea, maybe someone should ya know, ask him about that and rerunning it before just going ahead? I mean, in the past it seemed that there was usually some sort of unspoken rule that when rerunning a set you asked for permission of the original designer/runner before going ahead with it. Maybe we're past that, but just seems like the right things to do, if at all possible.
(Not speaking on behalf of TKC, just as myself)
Emphasis added. I think, for me, this is the crux of the issue. This isn't Karura's design. One could argue that the specific layouts offered were Karura's, but there again if you look at the render in the IC this is definitely not R2 of SKIDATA (Which I will expound further on in a minute). These are stock colors, and if they belonged to anyone they belonged to Cherry which means GMK acquired them with the tooling.
If this were an original design, or we duplicated the layouts 100%, or we duplicated original novelties, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly that IP was being stolen without the permission of the original designer.
I don't think simply running a set entitles you to anything. Does Originative own White on Black? Because that's what you're implying here - that simply by running WoB Originative has some sort of control over it's future - which to me is insane. Running or rerunning a public domain set is no different that 16 different publishers running editions of Gulliver's Travels. Or what about situations where the designer and runner are different people. Is MiTo obligated to run Laser at MassDrop until the end of time because they ran it once (Setting aside any contract issues we would have no knowledge of). Is Cocobrais obligated to continue to run Signal at the site that's running it just because they are running it now? I think the answer to both, both personally and by the community is no.
Going back to the genesis of this set, I looked at the crazy prices SKIDATA and the color kit was commanding and said to TKC that we needed to put something together. My thought was this:
Base alphas plus color kit was obviously the more popular choice - by virtue of the premium it commands. We put together one large kit with high compatability and offer it for a fair price. TKC already had the Terminal layout which has a ton of compatibility features so I just skinned it with SKIDATA colors and ran with it.
Obviously with the feedback we're seeing here, we need to rethink the mods situation. I didn't expect there to be so much demand for the normal mods based on the r/mm pricing.
I will say though, that I don't think a bunch of child kits is the way to go. They don't sell well, generally, and they drive the price up into the stratosphere relatively speaking. I've still got my SKIDATA R1 extras receipt - north of $300 for all the kits. That's nuts. Even on Massdrop, a ton of child kits can dobule+ your price - looking at you Nautilus.
Anyway, that's my $0.02. I'm going to rework the KLE and see where that gets us.
Giorgio, you're going to be disappointed.
I understand your point and maybe designer was the wrong term (I tried to think of something better even when writing it but couldn't so I left it), but having the previous runner's blessing was usually encouraged, even if wasn't required. As it stands, Karura has signed off on it according to TKC so my only reservation has been resolved, but having seen Karura's intention somewhat recently to rerun the set I would've hated for this set to get stuck in the middle of some nasty drama. And tbh, with TKC's great work so far with their buys and Karura's...not as great support after shipping, I believe TKC will do this set proper justice as well.
Regarding the kits and such, I completely agree that one large multi-compatibility set would be the best idea (maybe even with a couple relegendables :D) and would help with hitting MOQ while still offering a lot of options with layouts.
And lastly, I completely agree that Giorgio will be disappointed, as is tradition.
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 21 December 2017, 13:07:33
As for the kit support, I wholeheartedly agree that NOBODY is going to pay for a 108-key standard kit that only covers one full-size layout. Even EPBT kits these days comes with extended layout support. I think Gorgio should give up that fantasy. If the base kit is too expensive for your taste, then don't buy it.
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 21 December 2017, 13:31:51
I fail to see why the "previous GB runner" would have ANY say on this GB. It's nice that TKC talked to the previous chap, personally I think they shouldn't have. Having the 'intention' to do another run does not at all stop other people from planning a GB, especially seeing as he has been more or less MIA since the conclusion of the last GB.
As for the kit support, I wholeheartedly agree that NOBODY is going to pay for a 108-key standard kit that only covers one full-size layout. Even EPBT kits these days comes with extended layout support. I think Gorgio should give up that fantasy. If the base kit is too expensive for your taste, then don't buy it.
Looking at past GBs, quite a few people looking to rerun a set asked/told the prior runner that they had plans to run it again. All I was wondering was if this had been done with Karura, and it has, so the point is moot.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 21 December 2017, 14:51:22
And I'm only in if the original mods are there. I don't like the alt color mods.
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 21 December 2017, 14:55:28
Taking Avid's response, I'd like to see this regarding kits:
1. base kit with N9 uniform and a few of the "more important" accents to give it its classic look.
2. addon kit with the rest of the orange mods needed to achieve the full orange mod look + other blue accents (if not already included in base),
3. blue and orange space bars
4. re-legendables (not interested in those though, personally)
PS: Keep it Q2 if possible, tons of cool boards coming in Q1 (VE.A2, M0110, CA66, TKC's own 1800, Samoyed, etc), I think a lot of people are still going to be recuperating from Christmas time and all that too.
All of the above and maybe some R5 love.
And please, no giant arrow backspace icon?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PvHyK5s_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Pretty much this. R5 is optional for me, but it is neat.
I would NOT buy this set if it is not uniform in the OG (orange on dark grey)-style mods.
Replicating the first GB run + padding the base kit up with compatibility should pretty much cover most people's needs.
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 21 December 2017, 16:02:05
Post by: haydoselefantes on Thu, 21 December 2017, 17:59:36
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 21 December 2017, 23:33:05
Post by: Damonskv on Fri, 22 December 2017, 00:15:36
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 22 December 2017, 02:22:05
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Post by: poolside on Fri, 22 December 2017, 08:02:25
The R5 bottom row would be interesting as well since I've never tried that.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 22 December 2017, 09:53:38
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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That looks, in a word, terrible.
No thank you.
Post by: BlackInk on Fri, 22 December 2017, 09:56:41
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 22 December 2017, 10:19:53
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Post by: hansichen on Fri, 22 December 2017, 10:34:38
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
No
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 22 December 2017, 10:35:05
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Couldn't disagree more
It's in my top 3 with Olivetti and Soware.
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 22 December 2017, 10:51:16
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Couldn't disagree more
It's in my top 3 with Olivetti and Soware.
Olivetti and soware are very nice and have modifiers different from alphas.
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 22 December 2017, 10:52:52
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Then don't watch it, go buy something else
Post by: mrkevint on Fri, 22 December 2017, 11:27:57
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
IMO if you're going to run a keyset based on OG Skidata, the design should respect the heritage... Just like GMK Classic Retro and GMK Originative.
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 22 December 2017, 13:00:41
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Then don't watch it, go buy something else
Stay away from me.
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 22 December 2017, 13:33:01
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Then don't watch it, go buy something else
Stay away from me.
no u
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 22 December 2017, 14:06:02
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Then don't watch it, go buy something else
Stay away from me.
no u
You miss the ****ing point. If he continues to annoy me, when I've never talked to him, he's the one who needs to **** off.
And smoke less joints, wateva.
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 22 December 2017, 14:36:01
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Then don't watch it, go buy something else
Stay away from me.
no u
You miss the ****ing point. If he continues to annoy me, when I've never talked to him, he's the one who needs to **** off.
And smoke less joints, wateva.
Wow, easy there angry lad, it's just a keyset interest check.
Also it's Waateva. Maybe you should be the one to lay off the reefer Gorgo?
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Fri, 22 December 2017, 14:40:57
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 22 December 2017, 14:43:32
Well, that escalated quickly.
Keysets are srs business sir.
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 22 December 2017, 15:16:14
Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Then don't watch it, go buy something else
Stay away from me.
no u
You miss the ****ing point. If he continues to annoy me, when I've never talked to him, he's the one who needs to **** off.
And smoke less joints, wateva.
Someone's a little salty... It's Christmas mate enjoy the days off, take it easy... Unless you work shifts, in which case, enjoy the fat paycheck coming in January :thumb:
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 22 December 2017, 15:59:25
.Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Then don't watch it, go buy something else
Stay away from me.
no u
You miss the ****ing point. If he continues to annoy me, when I've never talked to him, he's the one who needs to **** off.
And smoke less joints, wateva.
Someone's a little salty... It's Christmas mate enjoy the days off, take it easy... Unless you work shifts, in which case, enjoy the fat paycheck coming in January :thumb:
You can't even understand what you write.
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 22 December 2017, 16:58:56
.Blue mods to recall the original case (or just the top- bottom row). The top row option has a cost of 7 USD.
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Nice work but this dont look good man, original is the best
Original skidata colorscheme, without some touches of vivid colors is absolutely bland and unwatchable.
Then don't watch it, go buy something else
Stay away from me.
no u
You miss the ****ing point. If he continues to annoy me, when I've never talked to him, he's the one who needs to **** off.
And smoke less joints, wateva.
Someone's a little salty... It's Christmas mate enjoy the days off, take it easy... Unless you work shifts, in which case, enjoy the fat paycheck coming in January :thumb:
You can't even understand what you write.
Sick burn brah!
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 22 December 2017, 17:17:39
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 22 December 2017, 17:21:52
Vim keys would be nice in dark grey with orange legends.
Terminal did come with VIM keys in the base kit no? Perhaps it could be included again for this run.
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 22 December 2017, 17:23:47
It did but with inverted colours. I believe they look better in the base colour scheme.Vim keys would be nice in dark grey with orange legends.
Terminal did come with VIM keys in the base kit no? Perhaps it could be included again for this run.
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 22 December 2017, 19:00:23
It did but with inverted colours. I believe they look better in the base colour scheme.Vim keys would be nice in dark grey with orange legends.
Terminal did come with VIM keys in the base kit no? Perhaps it could be included again for this run.
Nautilus did these and they look fantastic
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 22 December 2017, 23:02:57
either in the orange on grey or grey on orange configuration
Post by: _rubik on Sat, 23 December 2017, 16:35:43
in favor of vim keys
either in the orange on grey or grey on orange configuration
x2. Vim keys would be killer, but certainly keep them in the same alpha colors. Blue keys don't quite fit in this set. A blue CASE however :cool:
Also, I take a few days AFK and I come back to a IC brawl. I like the passion, but this is colored plastic..... expensive colored plastic.
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 23 December 2017, 18:04:41
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 23 December 2017, 19:07:10
We need a blue poker case.
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/case/products/customized-gh60-aluminum-case
get out of 2013, we have nice things now
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 24 December 2017, 05:45:57
We need a blue poker case.
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/case/products/customized-gh60-aluminum-case
get out of 2013, we have nice things now
Is that a nice case for you? WTF
Post by: Blackhawk on Sun, 24 December 2017, 06:41:04
We need a blue poker case.
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/case/products/customized-gh60-aluminum-case
get out of 2013, we have nice things now
Is that a nice case for you? WTF
You should have ordered a Klippe then
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 December 2017, 11:10:13
We need a blue poker case.
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/case/products/customized-gh60-aluminum-case
get out of 2013, we have nice things now
Is that a nice case for you? WTF
For tray mount boards it doesn't matter, they all feel the same
Post by: neralo on Thu, 28 December 2017, 09:29:36
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Post by: ninjacore on Mon, 01 January 2018, 21:46:27
Post by: voodoo6k on Tue, 02 January 2018, 10:21:13
They really mix things up, in the good way.
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 02 January 2018, 12:11:01
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 02 January 2018, 12:36:12
It needs bars on F J and numpad 5! :-)
it's there in the render
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 02 January 2018, 15:12:31
It needs bars on F J and numpad 5! :-)
You need to be barred from posting in IC threads
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 02 January 2018, 15:14:38
It needs bars on F J and numpad 5! :-)
You need to be barred from posting in IC threads
Post by: Elefantine on Wed, 03 January 2018, 04:04:58
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 03 January 2018, 10:00:05
It needs bars on F J and numpad 5! :-)
it's there in the render
Sadly that means nothing, since this is often changed through the IC and since it's even missing the dot on the 5!
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 03 January 2018, 10:00:51
Any chance of getting some of those 2u convex spacebars?
And maybe asking cherry to make something bigger than 2u?
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Wed, 03 January 2018, 10:56:41
[attachimg=1]It needs bars on F J and numpad 5! :-)
it's there in the render
Sadly that means nothing, since this is often changed through the IC and since it's even missing the dot on the 5!
Noticed you didnt have bars, ftfy
Post by: hansichen on Wed, 03 January 2018, 10:59:11
Cool, finally a keyset made by cherryAny chance of getting some of those 2u convex spacebars?
And maybe asking cherry to make something bigger than 2u?
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 03 January 2018, 11:02:21
(Attachment Link)It needs bars on F J and numpad 5! :-)
it's there in the render
Sadly that means nothing, since this is often changed through the IC and since it's even missing the dot on the 5!
Noticed you didnt have bars, ftfy
What
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 03 January 2018, 12:19:49
3u spacebars would be nice for a change, although sourcing 3u stabilizers wire could be difficult.Any chance of getting some of those 2u convex spacebars?
And maybe asking cherry to make something bigger than 2u?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 03 January 2018, 12:21:35
3u spacebars would be nice for a change, although sourcing 3u stabilizers wire could be difficult.Any chance of getting some of those 2u convex spacebars?
And maybe asking cherry to make something bigger than 2u?
GMK doesn't have the tooling, and new tooling is expensive
ROI wouldn't be good
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 03 January 2018, 12:24:26
3u spacebars would be nice for a change, although sourcing 3u stabilizers wire could be difficult.Any chance of getting some of those 2u convex spacebars?
And maybe asking cherry to make something bigger than 2u?
GMK doesn't have the tooling, and new tooling is expensive
ROI wouldn't be good
Well, they've been happy to make 2u spacebars, so 3u is definitely possible. Asking doesn't hurt.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 03 January 2018, 12:27:37
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 03 January 2018, 12:41:18
yeah but there's more than one keyboard that uses 2u spacebars
2u is stupid. It's paired to what? Some oddly shaped shifts?
3u on the other had can be perfectly paired to another 3u. Or to... 2u and 1u convex.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 03 January 2018, 12:44:17
yeah but there's more than one keyboard that uses 2u spacebars
2u is stupid. It's paired to what? Some oddly shaped shifts?
3u on the other had can be perfectly paired to another 3u. Or to... 2u and 1u convex.
what is a planck
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 03 January 2018, 12:59:16
yeah but there's more than one keyboard that uses 2u spacebars
2u is stupid. It's paired to what? Some oddly shaped shifts?
3u on the other had can be perfectly paired to another 3u. Or to... 2u and 1u convex.
what is a planck
Shhh, Giorgio probably think that's a cool hipster thing to do, lying flat in awkward places, nothing to do with the physical constant or the ortho keyboard of course.
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 03 January 2018, 15:11:02
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Post by: BOK on Thu, 04 January 2018, 05:26:56
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 04 January 2018, 07:50:01
You, plancking
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*Plank not Planck, as expected, Giorgio cannot distinguish between the two
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:24:13
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 04 January 2018, 13:57:51
...and I'm removing this from watched topics until you guys sort your issues out and this actually gets back to being about an interest check again.
Does that actually work for you? I still get updates when I unwatch a thread.
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 04 January 2018, 19:45:51
You, plancking
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*Plank not Planck, as expected, Giorgio cannot distinguish between the two
MOD EDIT: Removed personal attack
Oh I wouldn't give up my big fat belly for the world ;)
Post by: _rubik on Thu, 04 January 2018, 21:31:02
How has WWE not monetized this smack down yet?
Post by: P1kas on Tue, 09 January 2018, 10:40:16
Some have mentioned similar preferences earlier, but..
I also would like for the orange mods to be offered separately from the main orange-on-grey set.
Post by: jihadu on Tue, 09 January 2018, 11:02:00
I live for threads like this...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a9TpuJR.gif)
How has WWE not monetized this smack down yet?
Now that I think about it, I should probably go out more often
Post by: P1kas on Thu, 25 January 2018, 10:05:34
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 25 January 2018, 20:20:50
Are there still plans to run this in the future?
Op said around April
Post by: P1kas on Thu, 25 January 2018, 20:23:20
Post by: kidd0 on Thu, 01 February 2018, 12:25:07
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 20 February 2018, 12:42:11
Sorry for the lack of communication for the past few weeks. Im in the middle of a rather large undertaking IRL, so spare time is in short supply for the next few weeks.
Just so everyone is in the loop:
I plan to run GMK Terminal R2 as soon as GMK Led Zep ships. I just got confirmation today from GMK that production is completed and they're sorting. So were on track for early March delivery. I need to start an IC for Terminal R2 in the next week or two.
That GB will launch as soon as GMK Led Zep is fulfilled.
As soon as the Terminal GB commences, I will focus more on Skidata R2 and THAT GB, with enough interest, will go in the queue right behind Terminal.
Spread the word on Skidata, keep the ideas coming, keep your nonsense about the price should be $100 to yourself, and Ill talk to everyone very soon!
Best,
Jason@TKC
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 20 February 2018, 13:42:53
Post by: _rubik on Tue, 20 February 2018, 15:29:07
Nice, Terminal & Skidata rd. 2 :cool: Looks like I better start stashing cash to the side now! :thumb:
Damn.... now I have a few decisions to make.
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 20 February 2018, 15:58:34
Nice, Terminal & Skidata rd. 2 :cool: Looks like I better start stashing cash to the side now! :thumb:
Damn.... now I have a few decisions to make.
Right, I'd like to get both but realistically that's probably a stretch. I'd say I'm leaning more towards Skidata but Terminal is so nice... :-\
Post by: kevinzavier on Sun, 25 February 2018, 17:28:18
Post by: P1kas on Mon, 19 March 2018, 03:01:09
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Mon, 19 March 2018, 16:36:11
Post by: Hazzula on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:20:05
.... project isnt dead in the water, its just parked for a few months. ... pushed back the release of ... Skidata. We still plan to get this going, but we have to run / fulfill Terminal R2 first. The Terminal R2 IC is going up in the next week.
Good to know! plus it gives me more time to save
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 19 March 2018, 21:44:37
Hey everyone. Just wanted to let those that are interested know, this project isnt dead in the water, its just parked for a few months. Because of the delays on LedZep and Drifter, its pushed back the release of Terminal R2, and along with it, Skidata. We still plan to get this going, but we have to run / fulfill Terminal R2 first. The Terminal R2 IC is going up in the next week.ill get both anyway :p
Post by: Geek Maker on Mon, 19 March 2018, 21:45:49
You have said you have bought the R1 round , i think you would know well that the full layout N9 base color with V2 orange legend is more beautiful than the N9 alpha with V2 mod just as your terminal colorway.
Of course i am looking forward to your terminal R2. Very fabulous no matter renders or real keycaps.
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 19 March 2018, 21:49:33
Hey everyone. Just wanted to let those that are interested know, this project isnt dead in the water, its just parked for a few months. Because of the delays on LedZep and Drifter, its pushed back the release of Terminal R2, and along with it, Skidata. We still plan to get this going, but we have to run / fulfill Terminal R2 first. The Terminal R2 IC is going up in the next week.
Thats really good news! Because I was worried Terminal and Skidata would run back to back or with each other.. that make affording both pretty tough.
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Sun, 15 April 2018, 12:16:19
Not a fan of those orange mods, TBH.
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Post by: P1kas on Thu, 26 April 2018, 19:33:06
As a side note, would definitely be interested in R5 bottom row for the 60% build I'm planning.
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Thu, 26 April 2018, 20:22:38
Post by: odd on Tue, 08 May 2018, 02:46:17
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 08 May 2018, 11:52:38
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:14:50
Is this still happening?
ya
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 12 June 2018, 20:06:29
Post by: P1kas on Tue, 12 June 2018, 20:26:06
Post by: kevinzavier on Tue, 12 June 2018, 22:38:49
Post by: watchy0ubac on Wed, 13 June 2018, 03:02:55
Hey everyone. Long time, no post. As soon as GMK Terminal is finished, Im going to get this one going again. Thanks for your patience!Do you mean once the GB for Terminal wraps up or once it actually ships?
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 13 June 2018, 08:57:56
Hey everyone. Long time, no post. As soon as GMK Terminal is finished, Im going to get this one going again. Thanks for your patience!Do you mean once the GB for Terminal wraps up or once it actually ships?
When it wraps up I want to get it back on track. Id love to run it a month or two after the close of the Terminal GB.
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 13 June 2018, 09:05:46
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Post by: kevinzavier on Wed, 13 June 2018, 17:33:18
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 13 June 2018, 17:36:36
can we discuss what keys we wants? because I love those relegendables
Sure!
Post by: romevi on Wed, 13 June 2018, 17:52:58
Sweet! Can you add more blue?can we discuss what keys we wants? because I love those relegendables
Sure!
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 13 June 2018, 18:02:54
Sweet! Can you add more blue?can we discuss what keys we wants? because I love those relegendables
Sure!
Kits are far from final. There will probably be a OoB base kit, Orange mod kit, and a blue accent kit. Not sure about relegendables yet, last time they cost a fortune.
Post by: kevinzavier on Wed, 13 June 2018, 18:28:01
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 13 June 2018, 19:31:50
more than $60 expensive?
I sure hope not! When Skidata+ ran the first time I believe the dollar was a bit stronger than it is now. It’s currently pretty weak against the Euro which is why I’ve been conservative with the keys in >Terminal_ R2.
Post by: romevi on Wed, 13 June 2018, 19:37:44
When Skidata+ ran the first time I believe the dollar was a bit stronger than it is now.
Yeah, we'll blame it on that.
;]
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 14 June 2018, 08:03:51
When Skidata+ ran the first time I believe the dollar was a bit stronger than it is now.
Yeah, we'll blame it on that.
;]
Euro to USD November 2015 = Approx $1.08
Euro to USD June 2018 = Approx $1.18
Not a huge deal on a $60 kit. On the larger base kits, thats $10-12 higher.
From what I understand, too, GMK wasn't crazy about producing those caps. Once Im done with >Terminal_ R2 Ill start talking to Christoph a bit more regarding this kit and figuring out what were going to do.
Post by: megalord on Fri, 22 June 2018, 18:22:13
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Post by: goodman247 on Mon, 25 June 2018, 22:38:43
Post by: kevinzavier on Sat, 11 August 2018, 22:18:33
Post by: Kawamashi on Sun, 23 September 2018, 03:26:30
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 23 September 2018, 03:31:07
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/43979181984_a476ce196e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm)IMG_7609 (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 23 September 2018, 09:33:31
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Sun, 23 September 2018, 09:49:13
was this ever run or never came to be?
All of our sets this year were pushed back due to manufacturing difficulties. We are still planning to run this in the very near future.
Post by: mimalik on Sun, 23 September 2018, 11:47:42
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 23 September 2018, 12:38:11
Please confirm if the very near future is this year or next? And will it be run via MD or someone else.
TKC are a vendor themselves and a very successful one at that, this has nothing to do with Massdrop or anyone else. I'm not completely aware of the timeline they're looking at but assuming Sanctuary runs through October (the set they're doing before this one) I'd assume we're maybe looking at a near-Christmas launch; again, I can't speak for them but if you want a guesstimate there you have it.
Post by: Kawamashi on Sun, 23 September 2018, 13:03:43
was this ever run or never came to be?
All of our sets this year were pushed back due to manufacturing difficulties. We are still planning to run this in the very near future.
Great news !!!
Post by: Shihatsu on Sun, 23 September 2018, 13:08:35
I just want to say Skidata is beautiful because of its simplicity.Which case is that beauty?
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/43979181984_a476ce196e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm)IMG_7609 (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 23 September 2018, 13:43:02
I just want to say Skidata is beautiful because of its simplicity.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/43979181984_a476ce196e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm)IMG_7609 (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
this
Post by: smurkcity12 on Sun, 23 September 2018, 14:32:47
I believe it's a duck octagon v2.I just want to say Skidata is beautiful because of its simplicity.Which case is that beauty?
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/43979181984_a476ce196e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm)IMG_7609 (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 23 September 2018, 14:35:53
I believe it's a duck octagon v2.I just want to say Skidata is beautiful because of its simplicity.Which case is that beauty?
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/43979181984_a476ce196e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm)IMG_7609 (https://flic.kr/p/2a1hNAm) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Yes it is ;)
Post by: portbaron on Sun, 23 September 2018, 17:24:17
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 24 September 2018, 06:24:48
Post by: P1kas on Mon, 24 September 2018, 17:38:56
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Mon, 24 September 2018, 17:45:26
TKC, have you decided on kits for this? Will orange mods be part of base or separate kit? If you are planning to offer orange mods as separate kit, then please consider the complete mod kit with numpad mods in orange.
The original skidata orange mod kit didn't include full coverage for 75%. Was missing the right column of keys in the correct profiles
I’m mobile so I can’t share the files. BUT I was planning to basically copy Terminal R2 and change the green to orange. So there would be a base kit, all N9 with orange legends. Then an orange modifier kit. On the fence about the 40 kit we did; not sure this will have the same steam that Terminal gets. I’d also like to do relegendables like the last Skidata ha.
Any thoughts?
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 24 September 2018, 19:51:15
I’m mobile so I can’t share the files. BUT I was planning to basically copy Terminal R2 and change the green to orange. So there would be a base kit, all N9 with orange legends. Then an orange modifier kit. I’d also like to do relegendables like the last Skidata ha.
Any thoughts?
Yes.
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 24 September 2018, 20:04:46
TKC, have you decided on kits for this? Will orange mods be part of base or separate kit? If you are planning to offer orange mods as separate kit, then please consider the complete mod kit with numpad mods in orange.The original skidata orange mod kit didn't include full coverage for 75%. Was missing the right column of keys in the correct profiles
I’m mobile so I can’t share the files. BUT I was planning to basically copy Terminal R2 and change the green to orange. So there would be a base kit, all N9 with orange legends. Then an orange modifier kit. On the fence about the 40 kit we did; not sure this will have the same steam that Terminal gets. I’d also like to do relegendables like the last Skidata ha.
Any thoughts?
Just saw the terminal at your portal, love the mods setup. Just one suggestion. Could the rest of mod keys over arrows section also be offered in orange (in del, home ...)? I would love to have full orange mods section for that full uniform mod look. It may increase the cost but I am sure we have enough orangephiles in community to gobble it up.
Post by: avid on Tue, 25 September 2018, 08:24:51
Would also love the sublegends on keys like Q and M to be the same as OG skidata.
Post by: romevi on Tue, 25 September 2018, 09:22:26
"The Big D"?
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Tue, 25 September 2018, 10:31:22
"TBD" is a weird name for a set. Why choose that?
"The Big D"?
I don’t know whether you’re joking or not, but... TBD is “to be defined”. That is, there’s no official name yet.
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Post by: Waateva on Tue, 25 September 2018, 10:34:49
"TBD" is a weird name for a set. Why choose that?
"The Big D"?
GOOD point
Post by: P1kas on Tue, 25 September 2018, 12:20:10
In fact, the Terminal R2 color mod kit is missing some keys that were included in the first Skidata GB.
Skidata Round 1 color kit had R1 Print Screen, Scroll Lock & Pause/brk.
I would love to see these, plus R1 Delete and either:
R1 Home, R2 PgUp, R3 PgDn, R4 End
or
R1 Home, R2 End, R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn
These would allow full orange coverage of 75% and 65% boards' right hand side, pictured here:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/299585906900205568/494196397344686094/Screen_Shot_2018-09-25_at_1.19.51_PM.png
Post by: romevi on Tue, 25 September 2018, 12:23:29
"TBD" is a weird name for a set. Why choose that?
"The Big D"?
I don’t whether you’re joking or not, but... TBD is “to be defined”. That is, there’s no official name yet.
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Ah, so To Be Defined is the unofficial name? Why'd you pick that name? Is it a code/reference to what may be the official name down the road?
I think the name "SD" (SkiData) is a better acronym than "TBD"; the latter can be euphemistic.
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 03 October 2018, 12:16:20
For those truly interested, please give it a look / read, fill out the new form, and spread the word!
Thanks for your patience. I love you all.
-M1keHonch0
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 03 October 2018, 12:26:16
Second of all... Can’t we get the blue accents in the base kit? I sure am not the only one who couldn’t care less for orange mods, but really digs the blue keys.
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Post by: DJSwayde on Wed, 03 October 2018, 12:31:18
First of all, thanks for the update and your dedication to the project!I'm guessing it's because the original run also had the blue keys in the color pack.
Second of all... Can’t we get the blue accents in the base kit? I sure am not the only one who couldn’t care less for orange mods, but really digs the blue keys.
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Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 03 October 2018, 12:38:42
First of all, thanks for the update and your dedication to the project!I'm guessing it's because the original run also had the blue keys in the color pack.
Second of all... Can’t we get the blue accents in the base kit? I sure am not the only one who couldn’t care less for orange mods, but really digs the blue keys.
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Youre welcome! Its long overdue.
Thanks for the feedback! Can you please put the feedback in the form so I can keep track of it all. Its a change we could certainly consider.
Post by: young_won on Wed, 03 October 2018, 20:14:50
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Thu, 04 October 2018, 00:17:38
Post by: portbaron on Thu, 04 October 2018, 01:18:27
Post by: clasicks on Thu, 04 October 2018, 09:46:47
Post by: holtenc on Mon, 08 October 2018, 15:42:40
Post by: DJSwayde on Tue, 09 October 2018, 10:20:18
Post by: P1kas on Tue, 09 October 2018, 10:24:04
One question:
What are the stepped R4 keys meant for in the orange mod kit?
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 09 October 2018, 10:25:24
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 09 October 2018, 10:43:22
I am extremely glad to see you've added support for the right column on 65/75% layouts.
One question:
What are the stepped R4 keys meant for in the orange mod kit?
Windowed keys. One of them is in the wrong row though, Ill get it fixed before we run.
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 10 October 2018, 08:14:53
I believe we're still missing this small cluster of caps:
[attach=1]
The R1 Home key is particularly important for a 75% column consisting of:
R1 Delete
R1 Home
R2 PgUp
R3 PgDn
R4 End.
Aside from that, I have a question:
[attach=2]
What layouts are these R1 End and R1 PgDn supposed to be used with? I can't think of any off the top of my head. These two caps are also present in the orange mod kit
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 10 October 2018, 08:20:19
Okay, so I took another look at the orange mod kit.
I believe we're still missing this small cluster of caps:
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The R1 Home key is particularly important for a 75% column consisting of:
R1 Delete
R1 Home
R2 PgUp
R3 PgDn
R4 End.
Aside from that, I have a question:
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What layouts are these R1 End and R1 PgDn supposed to be used with? I can't think of any off the top of my head. These two caps are also present in the orange mod kit
I look at adding that cluster.
The keys you question are used on 1800 layouts.
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 10 October 2018, 08:24:09
One other thing I was wondering about:
[attach=1]
I understand that some layouts use 1u ctrl/alt on the right side of the bottom row. Do any layouts require two 1u alts or two 1u ctrl?
Post by: portbaron on Wed, 10 October 2018, 12:21:38
Oh, that makes sense.cherry g80 1800
One other thing I was wondering about:
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I understand that some layouts use 1u ctrl/alt on the right side of the bottom row. Do any layouts require two 1u alts or two 1u ctrl?
Post by: elfick on Thu, 11 October 2018, 16:29:18
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 11 October 2018, 19:29:20
Oh, that makes sense.
One other thing I was wondering about:
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I understand that some layouts use 1u ctrl/alt on the right side of the bottom row. Do any layouts require two 1u alts or two 1u ctrl?
Also 1800 (certain variants that uses the full mod row with 6u spacebar)
Post by: P1kas on Thu, 11 October 2018, 23:12:13
Post by: haydoselefantes on Fri, 09 November 2018, 11:45:44
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 09 November 2018, 11:49:17
I assume the SkIIdata orange is not the same as the GMK Carbon R2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97972.0) orange. Has anyone compared the R1 carbon to the original skidata? Do they clash or complement each other?
The grey is not the same so they will clash to some degree.
Post by: Kawamashi on Fri, 09 November 2018, 14:30:01
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5bb30u/skidata_warning_signs/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5bb30u/skidata_warning_signs/)
https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/gmk-carbon-t12973-120.html#p322625 (https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/gmk-carbon-t12973-120.html#p322625)
https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/gmk-carbon-t12973-150.html#p324723 (https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/gmk-carbon-t12973-150.html#p324723)
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5bb30u/skidata_warning_signs/d9nxxvy/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5bb30u/skidata_warning_signs/d9nxxvy/)
IMO, the oranges are pretty similar. The greys are different, but alphas from skidata + mods from carbon may look well.
Post by: haydoselefantes on Fri, 09 November 2018, 17:05:05
Here are some links to illustrate the differences :
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5bb30u/skidata_warning_signs/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5bb30u/skidata_warning_signs/)
https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/gmk-carbon-t12973-120.html#p322625 (https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/gmk-carbon-t12973-120.html#p322625)
https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/gmk-carbon-t12973-150.html#p324723 (https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/gmk-carbon-t12973-150.html#p324723)
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5bb30u/skidata_warning_signs/d9nxxvy/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5bb30u/skidata_warning_signs/d9nxxvy/)
IMO, the oranges are pretty similar. The greys are different, but alphas from skidata + mods from carbon may look well.
Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for.
Post by: equalunique on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:09:36
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Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 03 January 2019, 08:15:17
Whats say go live February 2019?
Im going to be working on the layouts a little bit this week (and shipping the TKC1800s out). Stay tuned for updates!
Post by: holtenc on Thu, 03 January 2019, 08:32:28
Happy New Year. The holidays are over. Vomageddon 2018 has subsided. Im ready. Are you ready? Lets bring this project back to life!
Whats say go live February 2019?
Im going to be working on the layouts a little bit this week (and shipping the TKC1800s out). Stay tuned for updates!
nice
Post by: dantambok on Thu, 03 January 2019, 08:33:23
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 03 January 2019, 09:01:23
Post by: nasp on Thu, 03 January 2019, 09:14:20
Some renders on the first post would be nice, even if they were renders of round 1. I think it gives a much better impression of what to expect this set to look like on a keyboard.
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 03 January 2019, 14:42:53
Filled out the IC form.
Some renders on the first post would be nice, even if they were renders of round 1. I think it gives a much better impression of what to expect this set to look like on a keyboard.
Renders will come forthwith as soon as the kits are decided upon. If you want to see what Skidata looks like on a board just do a search on Reddit. There should be a bunch!
Post by: Emir on Mon, 07 January 2019, 09:32:26
Post by: whytwokay on Mon, 07 January 2019, 11:46:16
I don't think the blue spacebars kit goes particularly well with the orange/black theme, though. Black (and/or possibly orange) keys in that kit would be a better match in my opinion. The base and 40's kits look great, though! :thumb:
Post by: RETURNISO on Mon, 07 January 2019, 14:01:34
NEED THIS!
+1 :eek:
Post by: dantambok on Mon, 07 January 2019, 17:43:41
Post by: ArchDill on Mon, 07 January 2019, 17:47:50
Post by: Emir on Tue, 08 January 2019, 01:13:42
does this set use stock or custom colors?
Standard GMK Colors N9 with V2. The accent blue is N5.
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 08 January 2019, 02:44:08
does this set use stock or custom colors?
Standard GMK Colors N9 with V2. The accent blue is N5.
that means only an MOQ of 150 right?
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 08 January 2019, 09:37:44
that means only an MOQ of 150 right?
Yes, however I don't think any sort of rendition of Skidata will have trouble hitting higher MOQs if it were to be necessary for basically any of its kits. It's such a popular set and TKC are a well respected, trusted brand given their track record who work with other competent proxies, this is going to be a hit for sure.
Post by: KaosJ on Tue, 08 January 2019, 16:30:09
In the style of the GMK Terminal
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Tue, 08 January 2019, 16:38:03
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Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 08 January 2019, 17:05:47
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 08 January 2019, 19:14:58
If the base set would contains basic accents (ESC/ENTER vertical and Enter Horizontal) i would probably join.I'd like to echo this sentiment. If the base set contains just the orange enter and esc, similar to terminal, I would be extremely happy.
In the style of the GMK Terminal
Post by: cerement on Sun, 20 January 2019, 16:12:37
- Another vote for having Esc & Enter (ANSI and ISO) as only color mods in base set (similar to GMK Terminal)
- Sorry people, voting against R5
- Requesting a R4 1.25u “Caps Lock” key (for those switching Caps with Ctrl and for 65% hybrid HHKB layouts)
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Sun, 20 January 2019, 16:49:47
Yes, I know I’m late to this party:But otherwise: 🤤
- Another vote for having Esc & Enter (ANSI and ISO) as only color mods in base set (similar to GMK Terminal)
- Sorry people, voting against R5
- Requesting a R4 1.25u “Caps Lock” key (for those switching Caps with Ctrl and for 65% hybrid HHKB layouts)
These are all great ideas that will probably make it. (With the exception of the R4 1u caps lock.)
Should have new mock ups this week. Janglad is busy working on them and LSB is looking them
Over.
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Mon, 21 January 2019, 03:48:19
Yes, I know I’m late to this party:But otherwise: 🤤
- Another vote for having Esc & Enter (ANSI and ISO) as only color mods in base set (similar to GMK Terminal)
- Sorry people, voting against R5
- Requesting a R4 1.25u “Caps Lock” key (for those switching Caps with Ctrl and for 65% hybrid HHKB layouts)
Solid recommendations, though most folks I know would rather put Caps in a layer where Control replaced it. Rather than keep a dedicated Caps Lock key.
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 21 January 2019, 07:52:18
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Mon, 21 January 2019, 08:03:11
Any possibility of adding remaing orange mod keys [ Insert, Home, Pg Up, Del, End Pg Down] to the set? Might as well make it complete. I already have orange alphas coming from Carbon, this will complete the KB L'Orange look I have been pining for ages.
Carbon orange and SkIIdata orange aren’t the same.
And I considered it but it’s so big already, and you’re the only one who has asked.
Anyone else want this? Speak up now!
Post by: P1kas on Mon, 21 January 2019, 09:48:37
Please add the R1 Home key to the orange mod kit. It's the only cap missing for full coverage of a 75% board layout, based on your mockups in the initial thread.
75% Right Column
R1 Delete <- Included in Orange Kit
R1 Home <- Missing From Orange Kit
R2 PGUp <- Included in Orange Kit
R3 PGDn <- Included in Orange Kit
R4 End <- Included in Orange Kit
R4 Right Arrow <- Included in Orange Kit
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 21 January 2019, 09:51:54
Any possibility of adding remaing orange mod keys [ Insert, Home, Pg Up, Del, End Pg Down] to the set? Might as well make it complete. I already have orange alphas coming from Carbon, this will complete the KB L'Orange look I have been pining for ages.
Carbon orange and SkIIdata orange aren’t the same.
And I considered it but it’s so big already, and you’re the only one who has asked.
Anyone else want this? Speak up now!
Thanks, I know the colours are not same, but its the best one can get.
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Mon, 21 January 2019, 15:24:39
I had already asked you do add a few keys, but I'd still like to see one more.
Please add the R1 Home key to the orange mod kit. It's the only cap missing for full coverage of a 75% board layout, based on your mockups in the initial thread.
75% Right Column
R1 Delete <- Included in Orange Kit
R1 Home <- Missing From Orange Kit
R2 PGUp <- Included in Orange Kit
R3 PGDn <- Included in Orange Kit
R4 End <- Included in Orange Kit
R4 Right Arrow <- Included in Orange Kit
R1 Home - I can add that. Not a bad idea, and a very modest request. Im going to make sure we have all we need for 1800 support as well. Thanks for the feedback. New mockups should be ready by the end of the week!
Post by: RETURNISO on Mon, 21 January 2019, 15:38:02
Still no plan for a Intl kit? :confused:
Post by: P1kas on Mon, 21 January 2019, 16:40:31
Quick, is this going on MD..?
Still no plan for a Intl kit? ???
TheKeyCompany runs group buys themselves, so I don't think it'll go on MD.
Post by: Remsky on Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:04:22
Quick, is this going on MD..?Doesnt usually make MOQ anyway
Still no plan for a Intl kit? :confused:
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Mon, 21 January 2019, 20:53:23
Quick, is this going on MD..?Doesnt usually make MOQ anyway
Still no plan for a Intl kit? :confused:
I actually may have a trick up my sleeve this time. Stay tuned.
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 22 January 2019, 04:45:45
Quick, is this going on MD..?
Still no plan for a Intl kit? ???
TheKeyCompany runs group buys themselves, so I don't think it'll go on MD.
Cool, yeah. It was just with the latest TKC MD drops, maybe it was a build up.. :cool:
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 22 January 2019, 04:48:25
Quick, is this going on MD..?Doesnt usually make MOQ anyway
Still no plan for a Intl kit? :confused:
I actually may have a trick up my sleeve this time. Stay tuned.
:eek: please make tricks! :-* F5 is is tuned in :thumb:
Post by: _GMK_ on Tue, 22 January 2019, 05:44:47
Post by: P1kas on Tue, 22 January 2019, 07:16:30
Call it "SKIDATA snow/winter or ice" edition and add some themed keycaps or alphas (maybe white/beige alphas with an orange font).
If you like that idea, then you can try to find a GMK Monkey set to combine with this. The orange is the same between both sets
Post by: _GMK_ on Tue, 22 January 2019, 10:16:01
Call it "SKIDATA snow/winter or ice" edition and add some themed keycaps or alphas (maybe white/beige alphas with an orange font).
If you like that idea, then you can try to find a GMK Monkey set to combine with this. The orange is the same between both sets
Interesting, thanks
Post by: Sparkrdom on Tue, 22 January 2019, 14:21:26
Any possibility of adding remaing orange mod keys [ Insert, Home, Pg Up, Del, End Pg Down] to the set? Might as well make it complete. I already have orange alphas coming from Carbon, this will complete the KB L'Orange look I have been pining for ages.
Carbon orange and SkIIdata orange aren’t the same.
And I considered it but it’s so big already, and you’re the only one who has asked.
Anyone else want this? Speak up now!
For the love of all that's holy, yes please! I even put this on my Interest Check form. My dream is to have all orange modifiers and black alphanumeric with alternating F keys. Basically this.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374229237579776011/537740060871622657/keyboard-layout.png)
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 23 January 2019, 06:57:38
Any possibility of adding remaing orange mod keys [ Insert, Home, Pg Up, Del, End Pg Down] to the set? Might as well make it complete. I already have orange alphas coming from Carbon, this will complete the KB L'Orange look I have been pining for ages.
Carbon orange and SkIIdata orange aren’t the same.
And I considered it but it’s so big already, and you’re the only one who has asked.
Anyone else want this? Speak up now!
For the love of all that's holy, yes please! I even put this on my Interest Check form. My dream is to have all orange modifiers and black alphanumeric with alternating F keys. Basically this, but with orange tenkey modifiers (Not just the enter) and orange HOME, DEL, END, etc.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MRrYjNl.png)
Bump to this, yes to full blown orange mod set to cover full size kb.
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:31:50
GMK said they cant make the orange relegendable tops, so we only get clear. Also removed the blue spacebars completely. I dont feel they look right on the kit, they are available for purchase other places, and keeping them out keeps the kits prices down. Lets hear what y'all have to say! Hope you dig.
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Post by: DJSwayde on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:33:28
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Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:34:48
Wait, does this mean we will not get blue spacebars anymore?
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Like you dont have a set of blue spacebars, Swayde.
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:46:40
Are the icons on the renders the ones that will be on the final kits? I'm guessing you'll be using the same ones as your Terminal GB, and not those
What would be the easiest way to obtain some blue spacebars in that color code?
E:
Interesting that you changed the WIN keys to Super keys. I'm not against it :thumb:
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:48:24
I'm ok with how this looks :)
Are the icons on the renders the ones that will be on the final kits? I'm guessing you'll be using the same ones as your Terminal GB, and not those
What would be the easiest way to obtain some blue spacebars in that color code?
No, ignore the stupid icons. They will match the original.
Blue spacebars... standard sizes Im pretty sure can be had at Oco. I feel they look out of place; if enough people want them (100!) Ill make a separate kit but I doubt it will hit. And I dont want to make everyone pay for them in the spacebar kit.
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:52:29
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Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:53:46
No need to add them if they're available at Oco IMO.
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They are available. N5 (https://www.originativeco.com/collections/add-on-kits)
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:57:23
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidataorangemod.png?v=1444355575No need to add them if they're available at Oco IMO.
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They are available. TU2 (https://www.originativeco.com/collections/add-on-kits)
The blue color code in the original GB was N5, not TU2.
It is available though, so I vote to keep it out of the GB to lower costs
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:07:45
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidataorangemod.png?v=1444355575No need to add them if they're available at Oco IMO.
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They are available. TU2 (https://www.originativeco.com/collections/add-on-kits)
The blue color code in the original GB was N5, not TU2.
It is available though, so I vote to keep it out of the GB to lower costs
My bad, time for an espresso. Yes, they do have them. I think its better this way and I appreciate you understanding. I did add your R1 Home key in orange!
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:10:26
New Kits. Not rendered yet. Im going to wait for some feedback.
GMK said they cant make the orange relegendable tops, so we only get clear. Also removed the blue spacebars completely. I dont feel they look right on the kit, they are available for purchase other places, and keeping them out keeps the kits prices down. Lets hear what y'all have to say! Hope you dig.
Not sure if this is typo, shouldnt Insert, Home Page Up be in R1 and Delete, End, Pg Dn in R2.
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:12:54
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:13:14
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:20:15
Also I understand orange mods may not everyone's cup of tea, is there a possibility to have them available to low MOQ but slightly higher prices? Those who love orange will bear the cost as we understand its pull, and will be able to sleep w/o fearning that it may not make MOQ. If the kit sells well, then lower price at higher MOQ will please the buyers anyway.
Are you talking about this cluster? You're not being very specific. Orange mods are indeed available as an option.
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Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:26:43
BTW, is adding orange Escape and Enter keys to the Base set still a possibility?
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Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:47:04
Hey man, what about a couple Fn keys in 1.25u (R4)? Would that be doable? I, for one, like to keep two Function keys (one to the left, one to the right) on my 60% builds (standard ANSI).
Maybe use the SUPER keys as FN?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button))
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:48:13
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:49:59
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Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:50:06
Hey man, what about a couple Fn keys in 1.25u (R4)? Would that be doable? I, for one, like to keep two Function keys (one to the left, one to the right) on my 60% builds (standard ANSI).
Maybe use the SUPER keys as FN?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button))
Hmm... I already use the Super keys in place of Command (macOS user here). :/
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Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:52:38
Hmm... I already use the Super keys in place of Command (macOS user here). :/
Hmm. I've always set my Control keys to CMD while in OSX due to how similarly they work accross the operating systems
I'm guessing you also have a control somewhere on there? Care to share your layout?
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Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:53:41
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:53:55
Nice.Puddsy v2?
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Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:56:47
Hmm... I already use the Super keys in place of Command (macOS user here). :/
Hmm. I've always set my Control keys to CMD while in OSX due to how similarly they work accross the operating systems
I'm guessing you also have a control somewhere on there? Care to share your layout?
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Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:58:35
Nice.Puddsy v2?
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capital letter and period, 7/10
Post by: Sparkrdom on Wed, 23 January 2019, 13:32:16
New Kits. Not rendered yet. Im going to wait for some feedback.
GMK said they cant make the orange relegendable tops, so we only get clear. Also removed the blue spacebars completely. I dont feel they look right on the kit, they are available for purchase other places, and keeping them out keeps the kits prices down. Lets hear what y'all have to say! Hope you dig.
Still hoping against hope to get the full orange modifiers! (Looks like Insert is the only missing key?)
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 23 January 2019, 14:04:41
New Kits. Not rendered yet. Im going to wait for some feedback.
GMK said they cant make the orange relegendable tops, so we only get clear. Also removed the blue spacebars completely. I dont feel they look right on the kit, they are available for purchase other places, and keeping them out keeps the kits prices down. Lets hear what y'all have to say! Hope you dig.
Still hoping against hope to get the full orange modifiers! (Looks like Insert is the only missing key?)
If youre hoping to get the entire navigation cluster in orange thats 5 additional keys we would need. Personally, I dont think it looks right when the nav cluster is all the alt color, Im open to suggestions. But I cant add 5 keys for one or two voices.
Anyone want to chime in?
Post by: Sparkrdom on Wed, 23 January 2019, 15:09:33
New Kits. Not rendered yet. Im going to wait for some feedback.
GMK said they cant make the orange relegendable tops, so we only get clear. Also removed the blue spacebars completely. I dont feel they look right on the kit, they are available for purchase other places, and keeping them out keeps the kits prices down. Lets hear what y'all have to say! Hope you dig.
Still hoping against hope to get the full orange modifiers! (Looks like Insert is the only missing key?)
If youre hoping to get the entire navigation cluster in orange thats 5 additional keys we would need. Personally, I dont think it looks right when the nav cluster is all the alt color, Im open to suggestions. But I cant add 5 keys for one or two voices.
Anyone want to chime in?
So this set was never meant for a full sized kb. Got it. Alright, count me out. I'd rather make a set on Maxkeys than settle for a mismatched, incomplete set. Odd to support niche keyboard sizes, but, you know, not the most common. I really do appreciate you doing this GB, but sad to see it fall flat on its face for my dream. So it goes.
For visual reference, this is what I want (I know the colors are off), and have been pining for since mid-2016. Orange is my favorite color, so the orange nav cluster (Thanks, I didn't know what to call this before!) looks super slick to me. Would look fantastic on my IKBC MF108. Ah well, off to maxkeys! Hope everyone else enjoys this set! It does look fantastic. I just refuse to settle for anything but exactly what I want. :)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374229237579776011/537743196172582946/keyboard-layout1.png)
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 23 January 2019, 18:28:48
It seems TKC are willing to add those in if enough people would use those in their builds. So far there's only been two people asking for it
Post by: Anakey on Thu, 24 January 2019, 03:37:07
Post by: Elefantine on Thu, 24 January 2019, 04:03:23
Post by: RETURNISO on Thu, 24 January 2019, 04:48:03
I think we're missing an R4 1.25u Fn key as well.
+1
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 24 January 2019, 07:36:39
Also I understand orange mods may not everyone's cup of tea, is there a possibility to have them available to low MOQ but slightly higher prices? Those who love orange will bear the cost as we understand its pull, and will be able to sleep w/o fearning that it may not make MOQ. If the kit sells well, then lower price at higher MOQ will please the buyers anyway.
Are you talking about this cluster? You're not being very specific. Orange mods are indeed available as an option.Show 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My bad, I was referring to orange mods cluster, as it appears that render is missing Insert key and was wondering why the render doesnt have Delete End Pg Dn as R2 keys. I know that colour orange is not of everyones liking, but if the full orange mod set is made available in this drop with low MOQ and higher price then, hopefully it will get the set made. I will buy the set even if ithe orange mods are not a complete set, but it would be better if the entire thing was offered.
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 24 January 2019, 07:42:01
Also I understand orange mods may not everyone's cup of tea, is there a possibility to have them available to low MOQ but slightly higher prices? Those who love orange will bear the cost as we understand its pull, and will be able to sleep w/o fearning that it may not make MOQ. If the kit sells well, then lower price at higher MOQ will please the buyers anyway.
Are you talking about this cluster? You're not being very specific. Orange mods are indeed available as an option.Show 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My bad, I was referring to orange mods cluster, as it appears that render is missing Insert key and was wondering why the render doesnt have Delete End Pg Dn as R2 keys. I know that colour orange is not of everyones liking, but if the full orange mod set is made available in this drop with low MOQ and higher price then, hopefully it will get the set made. I will buy the set even if ithe orange mods are not a complete set, but it would be better if the entire thing was offered.
I want everyone to understand that adding more keys will make the kits more expensive. On Terminal the AE Mod kit has less keys than this already has, and the GB price was $90 for the kit. If we add more and with annual price increases this kit is going to cost >$100. Just want to make that clear.
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 24 January 2019, 08:04:51
I think we're missing an R4 1.25u Fn key as well.
+1. Make ‘em two, if possible.
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Post by: mimalik on Thu, 24 January 2019, 08:05:54
My bad, I was referring to orange mods cluster, as it appears that render is missing Insert key and was wondering why the render doesnt have Delete End Pg Dn as R2 keys. I know that colour orange is not of everyones liking, but if the full orange mod set is made available in this drop with low MOQ and higher price then, hopefully it will get the set made. I will buy the set even if ithe orange mods are not a complete set, but it would be better if the entire thing was offered.
I want everyone to understand that adding more keys will make the kits more expensive. On Terminal the AE Mod kit has less keys than this already has, and the GB price was $90 for the kit. If we add more and with annual price increases this kit is going to cost >$100. Just want to make that clear.
Personally I am willing to pay. Its not a cheap hobby, but when its what one wants then one will pay for it.
Post by: smurkcity12 on Thu, 24 January 2019, 10:30:20
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 24 January 2019, 10:38:05
I will absolutely be in for a base set. For everyone wanting the orange mods, I believe it's approaching the point where it'll be more practical to have a full blown orange set with alphas as well because the price will be only marginally lower than the base set. Not sure how you all feel about it, but if I have a choice between paying ~100 for orange mods or 140 for the same mod set with alphas, I'd rather buy the full orange set.
EDIT - Deleting this comment.
Post by: DJSwayde on Thu, 24 January 2019, 10:38:52
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Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 24 January 2019, 10:43:34
I personally think everything is fine the way it is right now.
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Im with you, Swayde. This project has been delayed long enough. Were splitting hairs over a navigation cluster. AFA Fn keys go, I can change the 1u SUPER keys to Fn. The 1.25u menu icon key can become Fn. Thats about all the changes Im willing to make at this point.
Janglad is working on the final renders. Im about to send off to GMK for a quote. Were going live in ~2 weeks.
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 24 January 2019, 10:44:57
New Kits. Not rendered yet. Im going to wait for some feedback.
GMK said they cant make the orange relegendable tops, so we only get clear. Also removed the blue spacebars completely. I dont feel they look right on the kit, they are available for purchase other places, and keeping them out keeps the kits prices down. Lets hear what y'all have to say! Hope you dig.
Still hoping against hope to get the full orange modifiers! (Looks like Insert is the only missing key?)
If youre hoping to get the entire navigation cluster in orange thats 5 additional keys we would need. Personally, I dont think it looks right when the nav cluster is all the alt color, Im open to suggestions. But I cant add 5 keys for one or two voices.
Anyone want to chime in?
So this set was never meant for a full sized kb. Got it. Alright, count me out. I'd rather make a set on Maxkeys than settle for a mismatched, incomplete set. Odd to support niche keyboard sizes, but, you know, not the most common. I really do appreciate you doing this GB, but sad to see it fall flat on its face for my dream. So it goes.
For visual reference, this is what I want (I know the colors are off), and have been pining for since mid-2016. Orange is my favorite color, so the orange nav cluster (Thanks, I didn't know what to call this before!) looks super slick to me. Would look fantastic on my IKBC MF108. Ah well, off to maxkeys! Hope everyone else enjoys this set! It does look fantastic. I just refuse to settle for anything but exactly what I want. :)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374229237579776011/537743196172582946/keyboard-layout1.png)
If what you want is exactly what you've stated, you'll have a hard time with Maxkeys. They dont offer much compatibility and their cap profile is entirely different from GMK.
Post by: smurkcity12 on Thu, 24 January 2019, 10:45:22
Yeah I agree. I'm likely picking up the base kit only this time, and I've been excited about this for long enough lolI personally think everything is fine the way it is right now.
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Im with you, Swayde. This project has been delayed long enough. Were splitting hairs over a navigation cluster. AFA Fn keys go, I can change the 1u SUPER keys to Fn. The 1.25u menu icon key can become Fn. Thats about all the changes Im willing to make at this point.
Janglad is working on the final renders. Im about to send off to GMK for a quote. Were going live in ~2 weeks.
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 24 January 2019, 10:49:42
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AFA Fn keys go, I can change the 1u SUPER keys to Fn.
Please, don't. That would only annoy winkeyless PC users.
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The 1.25u menu icon key can become Fn.
That would actually work pretty well for me (others are welcome to disagree, of course). I think one R4 1.25u Fn key is better than nothing.
Post by: P1kas on Thu, 24 January 2019, 10:54:09
I think Enrique was the only one to ask for additional FNs, and he wanted 1.25u. No need to change the 1u Supers
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Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 24 January 2019, 10:59:51
Disagree on changing the 1u SUPERs to Fn.
I think Enrique was the only one to ask for additional FNs, and he wanted 1.25u. No need to change the 1u Supers
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Yesh please. Don't ditch the supers for Fn keys.
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The 1.25u menu icon key can become Fn.
A 1.25 Fn and a 1u Fn are perfectly fine. Does anyone even use the menu key any more in light of programmable layers?
Post by: Sparkrdom on Thu, 24 January 2019, 16:23:59
If what you want is exactly what you've stated, you'll have a hard time with Maxkeys. They dont offer much compatibility and their cap profile is entirely different from GMK.
Eh, not quite. The mockup I posted was from MaxKey's customizer. It's definitely not as high quality as this GB will be, but it nails the aesthetic I want. Compatibility and cap profile are negligible for me. I appreciate the input though!
Post by: dPaK on Fri, 25 January 2019, 06:44:30
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Fri, 25 January 2019, 07:11:05
Disagree on changing the 1u SUPERs to Fn.
For the love of god please keep the 1u Supers. Tokyo Nights 1u supers are completely dead to me because of the tacky windows icons. Supers make super sense. Hell even the little diamond or, worst case, Code, is better than windows icons. Fn changes the meaning of the key altogether.
Post by: RETURNISO on Fri, 25 January 2019, 07:14:43
Disagree on changing the 1u SUPERs to Fn.
For the love of god please keep the 1u Supers. Tokyo Nights 1u supers are completely dead to me because of the tacky windows icons. Supers make super sense. Hell even the little diamond or, worst case, Code, is better than windows icons. Fn changes the meaning of the key altogether.
+1
Post by: dPaK on Fri, 25 January 2019, 09:32:27
Post by: Drilldriver on Sun, 27 January 2019, 07:45:11
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Sun, 27 January 2019, 08:34:04
Don't want Windows key either..
TKC doesn’t “do” Windows keys :-)
Post by: dPaK on Sun, 27 January 2019, 17:41:52
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 27 January 2019, 23:36:00
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 28 January 2019, 02:41:53
Post by: Emir on Mon, 28 January 2019, 09:50:06
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 29 January 2019, 09:36:25
About the convex spacebar sizes, I've noticed that most of the existing split bar keyboards, in order to reach 6.25, use 2.75+1.25+2.25. So I wonder why GMK didn't think of offering a 1.25 convex spacebar. Right now their offer includes 1 2 2.25 2.75. I don't know if the OP considers it worth to ask gmk for a new 1.25 convex keycap.
It took a few years of asking for them to finally make the 2.25 and 2.75 spacebars convex. I don't think its going to happen on this GB, sorry.
Post by: cldskt on Thu, 31 January 2019, 08:43:00
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Post by: mimalik on Fri, 01 February 2019, 08:32:09
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 01 February 2019, 10:31:12
So is this happening after Katakana drop ends or will run simultanoeusly?
I may launch SkIIdata while Katakana is running. Depends on sales really.
Post by: William_S_Jones on Fri, 01 February 2019, 12:44:23
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Post by: Emir on Wed, 13 February 2019, 09:18:31
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 15 February 2019, 13:37:23
TKC update states that this is on schedule for March. Was hoping for February, but oh well. :(
Its gonna be March!
Post by: Retrias on Sat, 16 February 2019, 07:36:53
Post by: tipsyboo on Sun, 17 February 2019, 22:14:37
Post by: vicissitude on Sun, 17 February 2019, 23:19:34
TKC update states that this is on schedule for March. Was hoping for February, but oh well. :(
Its gonna be March!
Yesss. Finally.
Can't wait to buy this.
Post by: iliketimex on Mon, 18 February 2019, 09:44:50
Post by: sam278 on Sun, 24 February 2019, 02:01:19
Post by: P1kas on Mon, 25 February 2019, 22:47:51
I'd imagine the base kit will cost a similar amount to what he charged for the base kit in the Terminal R2 group buy.
As for the mod kit, he mentioned that it might be a bit over $100 at some point in this thread.
Post by: sam278 on Thu, 28 February 2019, 00:57:29
The kit mockups show the μ legend but not the @, but it seems strange to me to have one but not the other.
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:16:21
Post by: DJSwayde on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:22:17
japanese legends on alpha?Pls no.
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Post by: enrique.aliaga on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:23:41
japanese legends on alpha?
Maybe as an add-on set. Not in the base, though.
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Post by: sam278 on Sun, 03 March 2019, 00:56:53
japanese legends on alpha?
Definitely not. The GB starts in less than a week there won't be any changes to what you see in the renders
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sun, 03 March 2019, 10:18:21
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Sun, 03 March 2019, 10:30:48
So accent enter and esc didn't make it into the base kit eh?
Apparently. Which is quite sad. :(
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Post by: piit79 on Sun, 03 March 2019, 12:58:29
That is a big shame. Doesn't make much sense... Thought Esc+Enter accents are usually standard.So accent enter and esc didn't make it into the base kit eh?
Apparently. Which is quite sad. :(
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Quite possibly a reason for me not to order. And man, do I love orange... :(
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Post by: sakodo on Sun, 03 March 2019, 15:08:51
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Sun, 03 March 2019, 15:09:49
That is a big shame. Doesn't make much sense... Thought Esc+Enter accents are usually standard.So accent enter and esc didn't make it into the base kit eh?
Apparently. Which is quite sad. :(
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Quite possibly a reason for me not to order. And man, do I love orange... :(
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Same here... was really expecting the base kit to come with some accents (a là Terminal). Without them, this GB looks less appealing to me.
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Post by: _GMK_ on Sun, 03 March 2019, 23:10:27
Post by: Namkhanhv on Mon, 04 March 2019, 00:25:36
That is a big shame. Doesn't make much sense... Thought Esc+Enter accents are usually standard.So accent enter and esc didn't make it into the base kit eh?
Apparently. Which is quite sad. :(
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Quite possibly a reason for me not to order. And man, do I love orange... :(
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I concur
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 04 March 2019, 00:35:59
That is a big shame. Doesn't make much sense... Thought Esc+Enter accents are usually standard.So accent enter and esc didn't make it into the base kit eh?
Apparently. Which is quite sad. :(
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Quite possibly a reason for me not to order. And man, do I love orange... :(
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I concur
+1 I've always wanted this set, but it looks awfully dull compared to everything else. Like some accents, but the full orange mod kit is too much.
Post by: kevinzavier on Mon, 04 March 2019, 18:20:52
Post by: Emir on Tue, 05 March 2019, 00:37:44
Post by: kevinzavier on Tue, 05 March 2019, 20:02:48
Post by: thornkin on Tue, 05 March 2019, 21:30:21
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Post by: Emir on Wed, 06 March 2019, 14:20:17
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 12 March 2019, 10:58:37
GMK SKIIDATA PRODUCT PAGE AT TKC (https://thekey.company/products/gmk-skiidata)
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 12 March 2019, 11:27:44
Post by: 8six753o9 on Tue, 12 March 2019, 13:04:24
Ok everyone. The long wait is over. Ive updated the product page with all the kits and pricing. Just finishing up the ZapCables page and the artisan raffle forms. We go live tomorrow night (March 13) at 8pm Eastern.
GMK SKIIDATA PRODUCT PAGE AT TKC (https://thekey.company/products/gmk-skiidata)
Thank you for adding the accent keys to the base kit. Originally I wasn't planning on joining this GB but since you add them along with windowed caps lock at that price, I'm now definately in! :thumb:
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 12 March 2019, 13:12:32
Post by: tipsyboo on Tue, 12 March 2019, 13:19:11
I am in for Base + V2 Mods, but looking at the prices, would it be similar price to base set if V2 mods came with N9 alphas? Not complaining here, I am glad that both are on offer and I will def buy both.I agree. For $9 less than the base kit, missing all the alphas in the V2 kit is a bummer...
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 12 March 2019, 13:38:42
I am in for Base + V2 Mods, but looking at the prices, would it be similar price to base set if V2 mods came with N9 alphas? Not complaining here, I am glad that both are on offer and I will def buy both.I agree. For $9 less than the base kit, missing all the alphas in the V2 kit is a bummer...
The issue is the Base kit is priced based on selling 500 units. The Orange mods is priced at selling 100 units. If we did what you propose, both kits would cost more.
Post by: tipsyboo on Tue, 12 March 2019, 13:45:10
Gotchu. Thanks for the responseI am in for Base + V2 Mods, but looking at the prices, would it be similar price to base set if V2 mods came with N9 alphas? Not complaining here, I am glad that both are on offer and I will def buy both.I agree. For $9 less than the base kit, missing all the alphas in the V2 kit is a bummer...
The issue is the Base kit is priced based on selling 500 units. The Orange mods is priced at selling 100 units. If we did what you propose, both kits would cost more.
Post by: 8six753o9 on Tue, 12 March 2019, 13:47:08
The issue is the Base kit is priced based on selling 500 units. The Orange mods is priced at selling 100 units. If we did what you propose, both kits would cost more.
Oh so it's not $129 at 150 MOQ? :(
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 12 March 2019, 13:56:23
I am in for Base + V2 Mods, but looking at the prices, would it be similar price to base set if V2 mods came with N9 alphas? Not complaining here, I am glad that both are on offer and I will def buy both.I agree. For $9 less than the base kit, missing all the alphas in the V2 kit is a bummer...
The issue is the Base kit is priced based on selling 500 units. The Orange mods is priced at selling 100 units. If we did what you propose, both kits would cost more.
Thanks again for setting this up. I know most will not go for V2, but I am in and price is fine too, I only hope that it makes MOQ. Whats the plan if MOQ is not reached or goes near it 70/80/90%?
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 12 March 2019, 14:05:24
The issue is the Base kit is priced based on selling 500 units. The Orange mods is priced at selling 100 units. If we did what you propose, both kits would cost more.
Oh so it's not $129 at 150 MOQ? :(
I am in for Base + V2 Mods, but looking at the prices, would it be similar price to base set if V2 mods came with N9 alphas? Not complaining here, I am glad that both are on offer and I will def buy both.I agree. For $9 less than the base kit, missing all the alphas in the V2 kit is a bummer...
The issue is the Base kit is priced based on selling 500 units. The Orange mods is priced at selling 100 units. If we did what you propose, both kits would cost more.
Thanks again for setting this up. I know most will not go for V2, but I am in and price is fine too, I only hope that it makes MOQ. Whats the plan if MOQ is not reached or goes near it 70/80/90%?
We don't do price drops. The price is the price no matter how many are sold.
If we come close to MOQ on the child kits I always buy the rest. We've only ever (as of yet) had one kit fail to meet MOQ, and it was an international kit on Terminal R1.
Post by: odd on Tue, 12 March 2019, 19:40:55
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 12 March 2019, 19:47:55
Ok everyone. The long wait is over. Ive updated the product page with all the kits and pricing. Just finishing up the ZapCables page and the artisan raffle forms. We go live tomorrow night (March 13) at 8pm Eastern.
GMK SKIIDATA PRODUCT PAGE AT TKC (https://thekey.company/products/gmk-skiidata)
Thank you for adding the accent keys to the base kit. Originally I wasn't planning on joining this GB but since you add them along with windowed caps lock at that price, I'm now definately in! :thumb:
Right on! The accents and windowed keys. Very classy.
There are relegendables too!
Post by: mta on Tue, 12 March 2019, 20:00:28
Post by: tipsyboo on Wed, 13 March 2019, 21:52:30
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 13 March 2019, 22:26:48
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 13 March 2019, 23:00:02
Post by: mta on Thu, 14 March 2019, 01:22:43
Post by: piit79 on Thu, 14 March 2019, 02:39:31
Ordered! Including the orange accents in the Base Kit pretty much made the deal for me. Looking forward to August!!Yeah, I was surprised they were actually added that late in the IC, wasn't expecting that. Kudos for listening!
But... Damn, now it will be that much harder not to burn another GMK-sized hole in my wallet, I lost an excuse
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Post by: OracleKev on Thu, 14 March 2019, 03:05:35
Ordered! Including the orange accents in the Base Kit pretty much made the deal for me. Looking forward to August!!+1 me ordered too!
Post by: dPaK on Thu, 14 March 2019, 05:30:37
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 14 March 2019, 12:50:11
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 14 March 2019, 13:49:23
I am in for Base + V2 Mods, but looking at the prices, would it be similar price to base set if V2 mods came with N9 alphas? Not complaining here, I am glad that both are on offer and I will def buy both.I agree. For $9 less than the base kit, missing all the alphas in the V2 kit is a bummer...
The issue is the Base kit is priced based on selling 500 units. The Orange mods is priced at selling 100 units. If we did what you propose, both kits would cost more.
Figured it was something like this
Post by: HotRoderX on Sat, 16 March 2019, 01:08:24
Post by: Pluto19 on Sat, 16 March 2019, 18:38:52
How long is the buy running for? I can't buy in this month but next month looks promising.
According to the GB page, it's open for 4 weeks.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99828.0
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 13 April 2019, 23:54:16