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Title: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 11.05.21 Indefinite Hiatus
Post by: Syper on Mon, 09 November 2020, 09:08:32
(https://i.imgur.com/SZ99TYb.png)

GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛)

11.05.21 Set is put on indefinite hiatus, first run came with a lot of problems and lots of lessons. Still want to do something with the theme but only after I am happy with the output. Will be putting on hold as I prepare a fully fleshed out kit and not a piece at a time.

03.16.21 New Novelty Feedback Form: https://forms.gle/54MfcKRDR9g98ThD9
Original IC Form (get notified when we get to GB!): https://forms.gle/18vFzBzTPMPqinAX7

Intro
Welcome to the GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) interest check! This set features the classic WoB with Hiragana sublegends with GMK icon mods and novelties inspired by the “Japanese Black” cattle breed, known for being a wagyū breed. Kuroge Wagyū directly translates to “Black Cow” in English. This set is aimed to be minimalistic, while also being aesthetically pleasing.

Colors
GMK Kuroge Wagyū uses WS1 legends on a CR base.

Who am I
More
I have been a long time lurker of the community. Early this year, I helped revive the Vancouver Mechanical Keyboard Meetup, it was a great experience and part of what pushed me deeper into this hobby. As of late, I have been spending a lot of time cooped up at home like many others and began researching for new sets to match with my keyboards. Apparently none match for what I want so I am now making it with the help of some friends!


Novelties Inspo
More
For the novelty design, I am taking inspiration from the 'Japanese Black' cow breed most well known for being one of the four wagyu beef breeds. Its pitch black hide is the perfect match for the set! Kuroge Wagyū is also known Kuro Ushi or "Black Cow" in English.

I decided to use an onion and mushroom because they are served grilled at Teppanyaki or cooked in a hotpot with the shabu shabu style.

Sake is a common drink that goes along with wagyū, good food, good drinks.


Proposed Kits *novelties are being re-visited right now!

(https://imgur.com/UjbZtxV.png)
(https://imgur.com/qgsF30Y.png)
(https://imgur.com/Z6Ceg2B.png)

Renders
Done by Manzel

U80-A by Rama
(https://i.imgur.com/hoxBDHq.png)
Dawn by crykn
(https://i.imgur.com/s8dlvHB.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/4K9QfVs.png)
TGR 910 by Yuktsi
(https://i.imgur.com/WfuMr8Z.png)
Iron 165 by Smith + Rune
(https://imgur.com/C3cYtJ7.png)
(https://imgur.com/KteuiP0.png)


Group Buy

Collabs

Notes
We noticed that GMK JIS is also in IC. The owner, 2Moons was contacted and both parties agreed the sets are different enough.

Special Thanks (in no special order)
Zambumon - For the inspiration from GMK Jamón
Manzel - For Renders
Biip - For approval to use the dot to replace win key
Kuuguya - For general support
2Moons - For giving us the go ahead
Erika - For Novelties

Links
Website for your viewing pleasure: http://www.gmkkurogewagyu.com/
Discord Server for Updates: https://discord.gg/KQ6f3xcJn9
Instagram Link for Updates: https://www.instagram.com/mountiecaps/

Contact
Discord User: Syper#1234
Email: mountiecapsmk@gmail.com

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛)
Post by: Syper on Mon, 09 November 2020, 09:09:14
Changelog

03.16.2021 - Updated novelties, give your feedback! Removed 00 key from base kit, removed 6U Offcenter, and one 1U from spacebar kit, added 2x 3U into spacebar kit. Renders soon.
02.19.2021 - Secured vendors worldwide! Waiting on collabs & pricing
01.28.2021 - Moved 'B' key from spacebar to base kit, secured CAN/US vendor, Spacecables cable collab
11.20.2020 - Updated base kit, removed 2u control key, updated hiragana on the “0” and “-” keys. Added new website: http://www.gmkkurogewagyu.com/

TODO
-Get a quote from GMK
-Finalize sets
-Finalize pricing
-Reach out to MORE vendors
-Deskmat?
-Artisan collab?
-Launch the GB!

Novelty Update Summarized (vote here: https://forms.gle/54MfcKRDR9g98ThD9)
(https://i.imgur.com/tGdhg1c.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: DuellM on Mon, 09 November 2020, 09:38:22
Omg I so need that novelty kit!!  ^-^  GlWIC
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: udller on Mon, 09 November 2020, 09:41:19
i like nice beef, i like nice keyboards, i like this. nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: Oddstag on Mon, 09 November 2020, 09:45:54
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106900

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/007/582/tumblr_lmputme3co1qa6q7k_large.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: yukitoki on Mon, 09 November 2020, 09:52:54
moo keycap?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: Syper on Mon, 09 November 2020, 10:17:07
moo keycap?

So something that says "moo"? I always thought about a hiragana text novelty but was never sure it would fit the set. Perhaps as an artisan collab
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: DuellM on Mon, 09 November 2020, 10:46:10
Please tell me there’s going to be a cow Rama Keycap  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: justinm on Mon, 09 November 2020, 10:56:20
nice

monolegend hiragana legends would be a nice addition too if it's not too close to gmk hiragana
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: Oddstag on Mon, 09 November 2020, 11:36:47
moo keycap?

So something that says "moo"? I always thought about a hiragana text novelty but was never sure it would fit the set. Perhaps as an artisan collab

Moo would be written in Katakana as:

モー
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: ddrfraser1 on Mon, 09 November 2020, 12:01:06
What's not to like? I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: yui_ on Mon, 09 November 2020, 12:04:21
nothing in this set really stands out as 'wagyu' over 'beef' to me...
would you consider numpad sublegends? normally i understand the argument of keeping it cleaner, but i think the sublegends work better when you already have hiragana sublegends on the alphas.
glwic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: LeoZ on Mon, 09 November 2020, 12:07:26
Ty :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 09 November 2020, 12:32:00
Hi there, please consider using the correct sublegends on the 0)をわ and -_ほー keys. They should look like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/m0ASO0z.png) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114733308117053/gmk_js_kit_01_base.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/0bNV9Qf.png) (https://i.imgur.com/BIw2oxu.jpg)

Note the regular size (small を doesn't exist in hiragana) and the additional (which is a Japanese prolonged sound mark, not a regular dash). With this change, your set will have correct compatibility for ANSI-based JP layouts.

Your kits look good otherwise. Although, you may want to include two 1.5u System/Super/Command keys in the base kit for Mac and OG HHKB bottom row users. These keys are more commonly used/requested than the 2u Shift and numpad 00 you currently have in the kit.

In keeping with the icon mods aesthetic, you may also want to change the R3 1.75u Control key from text to a icon. This has the potential to look cleaner since the text can look out of place when surrounded by icon-only mods from the top and bottom. See here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107383.msg2930291#msg2930291) for a comparison. Here are a few examples of sets that use the icon legend: 1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108422.0) 2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108795.0) 3 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108867.0) 4 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108594.0).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: delet_d on Mon, 09 November 2020, 12:33:10
can the steak novelties have more marbling to better fit the wagyu theme?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: Syper on Mon, 09 November 2020, 13:19:17
can the steak novelties have more marbling to better fit the wagyu theme?

I actually experimented with marbling on the steak, but the pattern looked bad/off due to having to meet a minimum width. I will likely revisit this in the form of a collab artisan, maybe a 'meat' silicone swirl from Rama.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: SE7EN_ate_NINE on Mon, 09 November 2020, 13:33:39
I'm in for sure, but please consider adding a 1U Shift to go with the 2U Shift you thankfully already added.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: beigeandbrown on Mon, 09 November 2020, 13:47:59
I know it might look a little odd, but perhaps color matching to steak could look good. Maybe a deep oxblood maroon color with a slight off white for the legends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛)
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 09 November 2020, 15:36:05
Rama steak
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛)
Post by: hpkb on Mon, 09 November 2020, 15:51:44
Finally some good ****ing food
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛)
Post by: rondg on Mon, 09 November 2020, 15:58:53
Please consider a hiragana legends only kit and icons only kit.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: Hyperdimension on Mon, 09 November 2020, 16:40:03
I really hope this set comes to fruition! Missed out on GMK WOB Hiragana and also the extras, so I'm gonna be setting money aside already for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: delet_d on Mon, 09 November 2020, 16:45:07
can the steak novelties have more marbling to better fit the wagyu theme?

I actually experimented with marbling on the steak, but the pattern looked bad/off due to having to meet a minimum width. I will likely revisit this in the form of a collab artisan, maybe a 'meat' silicone swirl from Rama.

As shown by the onion novelty, thin lines could be done. It doesn't have to be too marbled, but right now it looks more like a pork chop to me. I'm not a big fan of rama silicones, especially after how the 8008 ones turned out, but other artisans would be cool
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: onedrunkman on Mon, 09 November 2020, 18:38:36
 ______
< nice >
 --------
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛)
Post by: swangful on Mon, 09 November 2020, 18:59:14
Please consider a hiragana legends only kit and icons only kit.  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/0gVnkD1.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: ookey on Mon, 09 November 2020, 19:04:45
any chance of an alphas only kit? would be in for that
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: kidviddy on Mon, 09 November 2020, 20:35:17
I know it might look a little odd, but perhaps color matching to steak could look good. Maybe a deep oxblood maroon color with a slight off white for the legends.

It would need to be different enough from Jamón, which is a direct inspiration for this set, but I agree this might be interesting. I realise you got 2moons’ blessing before running this set, but given that GMK JIS also supports ANSI-JP with hiragana sublegends and is white on black, it might help differentiate this set to have just a little bit of colour in it, even if it’s subtle.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: beigeandbrown on Tue, 10 November 2020, 00:07:19
I know it might look a little odd, but perhaps color matching to steak could look good. Maybe a deep oxblood maroon color with a slight off white for the legends.

It would need to be different enough from Jamón, which is a direct inspiration for this set, but I agree this might be interesting. I realise you got 2moons’ blessing before running this set, but given that GMK JIS also supports ANSI-JP with hiragana sublegends and is white on black, it might help differentiate this set to have just a little bit of colour in it, even if it’s subtle.
ah yeah that's true, Jamon is pretty darn close to what I described. Maybe a more purplish-red oxblood without having different colored mods. Very pale pink, near white legends could also help to differentiate the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: alpaone on Wed, 11 November 2020, 06:54:18
[...]

Your kits look good otherwise. Although, you may want to include two 1.5u System/Super/Command keys in the base kit for Mac and OG HHKB bottom row users. These keys are more commonly used/request than the 2u Shift and numpad 00 you currently have in the kit.

In keeping with the icon mods aesthetic, you may also want to change the R3 1.75u Control key from text to a icon. This has the potential to look cleaner since the text can look out of place when surrounded by icon-only mods from the top and bottom. See here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107383.msg2930291#msg2930291) for a comparison. Here are a few examples of sets that use the icon legend: 1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108422.0) 2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108795.0) 3 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108867.0) 4 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108594.0).

+1 for two 1.5U Super/Code/Command Keys for HHKB layout. I'd buy this set for those keys alone as many other WoB sets are unfortunately missing them.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: noorejji on Wed, 11 November 2020, 07:45:56
I don’t wanna be that guy (I do) but this looks kinda similar to the GMK WoB colorway.

Also moo~
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: Pach on Wed, 11 November 2020, 08:52:23
oh yes please
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: ButDutWut on Sat, 14 November 2020, 02:44:24
I'll take all WOB I can get
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: Amuaisi on Sat, 14 November 2020, 09:58:55
Hi Syper. I really like this set; I think it will be an interesting addition to the WoB ecosystem, the novelties are cute.

I agree that it would be great to have 1.5U Super/Code/Command keys. I'd consider another crack at the marbling on the steak, because I, too, don't really see it as wagyu.

You can count me in for a set. If you can establish a silver knife artisan enter, even more so. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: baccaan on Sat, 14 November 2020, 10:03:02
I agree that it would be great to have 1.5U Super/Code/Command keys. I'd consider another crack at the marbling on the steak, because I, too, don't really see it as wagyu.

Seconding the Super/Code/Command keys, that's all I think the set is missing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: Syper on Mon, 16 November 2020, 15:06:45
Show Image
Hi there, please consider using the correct sublegends on the 0)をわ and -_ほー keys. They should look like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/m0ASO0z.png) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114733308117053/gmk_js_kit_01_base.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0bNV9Qf.png) (https://i.imgur.com/BIw2oxu.jpg)

Note the regular size (small を doesn't exist in hiragana) and the additional (which is a Japanese prolonged sound mark, not a regular dash). With this change, your set will have correct compatibility for ANSI-based JP layouts.

Your kits look good otherwise. Although, you may want to include two 1.5u System/Super/Command keys in the base kit for Mac and OG HHKB bottom row users. These keys are more commonly used/requested than the 2u Shift and numpad 00 you currently have in the kit.

In keeping with the icon mods aesthetic, you may also want to change the R3 1.75u Control key from text to a icon. This has the potential to look cleaner since the text can look out of place when surrounded by icon-only mods from the top and bottom. See here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107383.msg2930291#msg2930291) for a comparison. Here are a few examples of sets that use the icon legend: 1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108422.0) 2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108795.0) 3 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108867.0) 4 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108594.0).

Hi! I took some time to think about your suggestions!

Regarding the change to the hiragana, I have researched a bit and reached out to Hineybush who did GMK βeta. The molds are public so there should be no issue in using them! I will be updating the renders soon in a week 1 update. As I was researching I also found that some hiragana sublegends have the "¥" symbol on the \ keys. It seems it is not very important and its basically up to the designer's choice. For me I'm indifferent so I will probably add it into a poll. Would be interested on your thoughts

I think I will put the suggestion for x2 1.5u dot/super replacement into the next feedback.

I do not like the look of the "^" icon replacement so I will lean towards using "control". I haven't seen a render with it and I'm not entirely sold :(

Thank you for your feedback so far! Much love!

 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: SwitchKeys on Mon, 16 November 2020, 15:31:31
Chance of a vegan add-on kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: zoo on Mon, 16 November 2020, 23:48:41
kuroge wagyu... tasty
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 17 November 2020, 00:00:33
Hi! I took some time to think about your suggestions!

Regarding the change to the hiragana, I have researched a bit and reached out to Hineybush who did GMK βeta. The molds are public so there should be no issue in using them! I will be updating the renders soon in a week 1 update. As I was researching I also found that some hiragana sublegends have the "¥" symbol on the \ keys. It seems it is not very important and its basically up to the designer's choice. For me I'm indifferent so I will probably add it into a poll. Would be interested on your thoughts

I think I will put the suggestion for x2 1.5u dot/super replacement into the next feedback.

I do not like the look of the "^" icon replacement so I will lean towards using "control". I haven't seen a render with it and I'm not entirely sold :(

Thank you for your feedback so far! Much love!

Sounds good, cheers. Regarding the extra ¥ sublegend, I would highly recommend against adding it, because it's not true to form and is misrepresentative of the underlying layout. I explain why in detail here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108328.msg2950676#msg2950676) and here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109421.msg2976294#msg2976294). I would say that it's not really down to preference, but rather has more to do with whether the legends are fully correct or not, similar to the and thing from earlier.

Edit: fixed link
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: Nonnegaard on Tue, 17 November 2020, 02:17:45
This is gorgeous.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和種)
Post by: Nonnegaard on Tue, 17 November 2020, 02:22:37
can the steak novelties have more marbling to better fit the wagyu theme?
We at least need to hit MBS 8.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - WoB with Hiragana sublegends
Post by: Syper on Fri, 20 November 2020, 09:35:43
11.20.2020 UPDATE #1:

Hi all! It’s been a busy week and I am truly grateful for all the feedback I received! To summarize, close to 200 people expressed interest in purchasing a base kit, 50 for spacebars, and 75 for novelties. For the first week and a bit thats not bad at all! Below are the changes, if you have feedback please submit it to the google form!

Kit Changes:
Based on feedback I have decided to make the following changes to the kits:
- Base kit removed the 2u shift, updated the sublegends on the “0” and “-” keys

I removed the 2u shift because I realize that it is usually paired with a 1u shift for GK64/XD64 styled keyboard layouts. They usually come together so I decided to cut it as the vast majority will not have a use for it.

New renders have been posted!
New website! http://www.gmkkurogewagyu.com/ (http://www.gmkkurogewagyu.com/)

I have also been considering some base kit options keep costs down as much as possible. Please fill out this feedback form of what you might like! https://forms.gle/7m1CMyDBvu5jZfW59 (https://forms.gle/7m1CMyDBvu5jZfW59)

Week 1 FAQ:

Q: Will you add BoW accents?
A: No, this set was created to complement any keyboard color and bring attention to the Hiragana Sublegends. Adding a contrasting color as an accent detracts from this. This does not apply to any potential artisan collaborations as they are usually unique enough in its own right.

Q: Can you split the Alpha and Modifiers into its own set so I can mix and match my other sets?
A: No. Sorry.

Q: Can you rename to GMK Cow?
A: I love you but No.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - UPDATE #1
Post by: udller on Fri, 20 November 2020, 10:27:07
can we get a moomoomoo rama?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - UPDATE #1
Post by: Darthbaggins on Fri, 20 November 2020, 10:33:12
can we get a moomoomoo rama?

As a Enter key artisan too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - UPDATE #1
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 07 January 2021, 05:34:07
Any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - UPDATE #1
Post by: santela on Thu, 07 January 2021, 11:51:13
I know this isn't usually done, but can you put the extra B in the base instead of the spacebar kit?

The reason being that this set uses CR, a GMK color which many people, myself included, already purchased spacebar kits from other sets. All I need is the B for the alice layout, but purchasing a CR spacebar kit is complete waste. I assume this wouldn't increase the base cost by much since this is just one extra key, but it saves people like me a lot of money. I wouldn't have raised this if this set is custom colors, but for CR I think it makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - UPDATE #1
Post by: kidgoth on Thu, 07 January 2021, 13:52:09
rama steak cap would be crazyy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - UPDATE #1
Post by: beppsu on Sat, 23 January 2021, 20:55:59
love it!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - UPDATE #1
Post by: Syper on Thu, 28 January 2021, 10:04:44
01.28.2021 UPDATE #2:

Welcome to 2021 the year of the Cow(Ox), after a short winter break I am back and ready for some action. To kick it off we are happy to announce vendors for CAN and US! I will be working hard in the next week to reach out to and secure more vendors in different regions. Stay tuned!

I have sent GMK info about the set so hopefully we get a quote back soon :)

Confirmed Vendors:
CAN: Ashkeebs (https://www.ashkeebs.com/)
US: Space Cables (https://spacecables.net)

Kit Changes:
Based on feedback I have decided to make the following changes to the kits:
- Moved "B" key from Spacebar Kit to Base Kit.

The reasoning behind this change is to keep costs down as well as recognize that most Alice/funky keyboard people already have extra spacebars. This is the final kit change I will be making until we get a quote back from GMK.

Collabs:
Spacecables will be our cable vendor of choice. More info will be released later on.

To stay updated for the GB please make sure to fill out the google form! (https://forms.gle/18vFzBzTPMPqinAX7)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - UPDATE #1
Post by: noorejji on Thu, 28 January 2021, 12:05:25
Double 3u in spacebar kit would be lit tho.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - UPDATE #1
Post by: dooooopy on Thu, 28 January 2021, 14:41:44
I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - 01.28.2021 UPDATE #2
Post by: Rex Tyhogi on Fri, 29 January 2021, 11:00:55
This set is atrocious. Japanese culture being used as an accessory and fetishistic at best. So much missed potential to use red keys and off-white sub legends to represent the meat and marbelling respectively. The novelties are also very tacky, and don't really provide anything of note.

Feels more like the set is riding off the trend of people eating わぎゅう and less so a genuine attempt at a set. Disgusting, to say the least
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - 01.28.2021 UPDATE #2
Post by: ForsakenCoffee on Fri, 29 January 2021, 11:08:30
This set is atrocious. Japanese culture being used as an accessory and fetishistic at best. So much missed potential to use red keys and off-white sub legends to represent the meat and marbelling respectively. The novelties are also very tacky, and don't really provide anything of note.

Feels more like the set is riding off the trend of people eating わぎゅう and less so a genuine attempt at a set. Disgusting, to say the least

I find it a little ironic that you chose to complain about fetishizing Japanese culture and then proceeded to type out wagyu in Hiragana instead of English like the rest of the post.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - 01.28.2021 UPDATE #2
Post by: smshark on Fri, 29 January 2021, 11:22:49
This set is atrocious. Japanese culture being used as an accessory and fetishistic at best. So much missed potential to use red keys and off-white sub legends to represent the meat and marbelling respectively. The novelties are also very tacky, and don't really provide anything of note.

Feels more like the set is riding off the trend of people eating わぎゅう and less so a genuine attempt at a set. Disgusting, to say the least

Idk if this is a troll or something, but kinda feels like you're just asking for a Jamon remake. Perhaps I missed the joke but I'm not sure THIS is the set to take a stand against the fetishization of Japanese culture lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - 01.28.2021 UPDATE #2
Post by: Syper on Tue, 02 February 2021, 17:47:25
This set is atrocious. Japanese culture being used as an accessory and fetishistic at best. So much missed potential to use red keys and off-white sub legends to represent the meat and marbelling respectively. The novelties are also very tacky, and don't really provide anything of note.

Feels more like the set is riding off the trend of people eating わぎゅう and less so a genuine attempt at a set. Disgusting, to say the least

Hi! This keyset is mainly created to fill the void of no WoB Hiragana keyset being available as well as adding some flavour in with some cow novelties. I have plans to adding more designs as things progress.

I definitely feel you wanting to do marbling for the keycaps or having a red as an accent but in the test renders it did not come out well. The marbling required really fine lines, but GMK requirements meant I had to basically make a zebra print. It just did not translate well. That being said I am exploring options with artisan caps where more custom designs are possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) - 01.28.2021 UPDATE #2
Post by: vladimir108 on Fri, 05 February 2021, 14:42:32
Hello, in thread "GMK Beta" was published update of basic Latin/Hiragana GMK keycaps from Zambumon:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108290.msg3009840#msg3009840 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108290.msg3009840#msg3009840)
Zambumon_GMK_Hiragana_Latin_RFC.pdf  https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=108290.0;attach=261369 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=108290.0;attach=261369)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 01.28.2021 UPDATE #2
Post by: lluvia on Sun, 14 February 2021, 20:34:10
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Intro
This set features the classic WoB with Hiragana sublegends with GMK icon mods and novelties inspired by the “Japanese Black” cattle breed, known for being a wagyū breed.  Kuroge Washū directly translates to “Black Cow” in English.

This set features the classic WoB with Hiragana sublegends, GMK icon mods, and novelties inspired by the "Japanese Black" cattle breed, Kuroge Wagyū. The name literally translates to "Black Haired Japanese Cattle" in English.

TN: Kuroge Washū literally translates to "Black Haired Japanese Breed." Washū is a more scientific term that consumers will generally not use to describe the animal or the beef.

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Novelties Inspo
For the novelty design, I am taking inspiration from the 'Japanese Black' cow breed most well known for being one of the four wagyu beef breeds. Its pitch black hide is the perfect match for the set! Kuroge Wagyū directly translates to “Black Cow” in English.

For the novelty design, I am taking inspiration from the most well known Wagyū breed, the "Japanese Black" cattle. Its pitch black hide is the perfect match for the set!

TN: Kuroge Wagyū is known as THE Wagyū, as the other breeds pale in number (Kuroge Wagyū is >90% of all Wagyū.) -- Kuroge Wagyū is not famous for being one of the breeds (as majority would not even know there are several breeds). The other Wagyū breeds also have different characteristics, Kuroge Wagyū beef the one that many associate with the taste of Wagyū.

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I decided to use an onion and mushroom because they are served grilled at Teppanyaki or cooked in a hotpot with the shabu shabu style.


I decided to use an onion and mushroom because they are served grilled alongside Wagyū at Teppanyaki.

TN: Unfortunately, white/round onion is not a common ingredient in (Japanese) Hotpot, Shabu-shabu, nor Sukiyaki. The onion that is the staple for these are the Japanese leek, also known as the Green or Spring Onion. (Not scallions.) On the other hand, while Gyūdon, or "Beef Bowl," doesn't have mushrooms, but have white/round onions. as its main ingredient.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 01.28.2021 UPDATE #2
Post by: andreiborisov on Mon, 15 February 2021, 08:47:44
Please, add at least one 3U spacebar:p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 01.28.2021 UPDATE #2
Post by: Syper on Wed, 17 February 2021, 00:38:25
Quote
Intro
This set features the classic WoB with Hiragana sublegends with GMK icon mods and novelties inspired by the “Japanese Black” cattle breed, known for being a wagyū breed.  Kuroge Washū directly translates to “Black Cow” in English.

This set features the classic WoB with Hiragana sublegends, GMK icon mods, and novelties inspired by the "Japanese Black" cattle breed, Kuroge Wagyū. The name literally translates to "Black Haired Japanese Cattle" in English.

TN: Kuroge Washū literally translates to "Black Haired Japanese Breed." Washū is a more scientific term that consumers will generally not use to describe the animal or the beef.

Quote
Novelties Inspo
For the novelty design, I am taking inspiration from the 'Japanese Black' cow breed most well known for being one of the four wagyu beef breeds. Its pitch black hide is the perfect match for the set! Kuroge Wagyū directly translates to “Black Cow” in English.

For the novelty design, I am taking inspiration from the most well known Wagyū breed, the "Japanese Black" cattle. Its pitch black hide is the perfect match for the set!

TN: Kuroge Wagyū is known as THE Wagyū, as the other breeds pale in number (Kuroge Wagyū is >90% of all Wagyū.) -- Kuroge Wagyū is not famous for being one of the breeds (as majority would not even know there are several breeds). The other Wagyū breeds also have different characteristics, Kuroge Wagyū beef the one that many associate with the taste of Wagyū.

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I decided to use an onion and mushroom because they are served grilled at Teppanyaki or cooked in a hotpot with the shabu shabu style.


I decided to use an onion and mushroom because they are served grilled alongside Wagyū at Teppanyaki.

TN: Unfortunately, white/round onion is not a common ingredient in (Japanese) Hotpot, Shabu-shabu, nor Sukiyaki. The onion that is the staple for these are the Japanese leek, also known as the Green or Spring Onion. (Not scallions.) On the other hand, while Gyūdon, or "Beef Bowl," doesn't have mushrooms, but have white/round onions. as its main ingredient.

Hi! Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. Admittedly I am not Japanese myself so I relied on my Japanese friends to provide advice for the set. As I haven't had the pleasure to try wagyu dishes in Japan I have been taking inspiration from the wagyu dishes within my city. I will take another look into that specific novelty though so thank you for pointing it out!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 02.19.2021 Vendor Update
Post by: Syper on Fri, 19 February 2021, 10:42:25
02.19.2021 Vendor Update:

February update: we secured vendors worldwide! Going to finalize kits, revisiting novelties before announcing a GB date. Stay tuned!

Confirmed Vendors:
CAN: Ashkeebs (https://www.ashkeebs.com/)
US: Space Cables (https://spacecables.net)
EU: Candy keys (https://candykeys.com)
UK: Prototypist (https://prototypist.net)
ASIA: KBDFans (https://kbdfans.com)
OCEANIA: SwitchKeys (https://www.switchkeys.com.au)


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 02.19.2021 Vendor Update
Post by: Oddstag on Sat, 13 March 2021, 07:23:01
Psyched for this set. Would love to see something a bit more "iconic" on R2 as that is where the Esc key is located on the board I have in mind for this and there is no 40s kit. The 2 1u spacebars are a very welcome sight.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 02.19.2021 Vendor Update
Post by: Dellinav on Mon, 15 March 2021, 02:13:32
02.19.2021 Vendor Update:

February update: we secured vendors worldwide! Going to finalize kits, revisiting novelties before announcing a GB date. Stay tuned!

Confirmed Vendors:
CAN: Ashkeebs (https://www.ashkeebs.com/)
US: Space Cables (https://spacecables.net)
EU: Candy keys (https://candykeys.com)
UK: Prototypist (https://prototypist.net)
ASIA: KBDFans (https://kbdfans.com)
OCEANIA: SwitchKeys (https://www.switchkeys.com.au)

Hey just wondering in regards to Space Cables, will it be on their old website that you linked? Or rather their SpaceHoldings domain?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 02.19.2021 Vendor Update
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 15 March 2021, 10:04:58
This looks so clean. Professional even, something you'd use in an office setting. But not at all boring.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 02.19.2021 Vendor Update
Post by: Tyson on Mon, 15 March 2021, 10:10:55
02.19.2021 Vendor Update:

February update: we secured vendors worldwide! Going to finalize kits, revisiting novelties before announcing a GB date. Stay tuned!

Confirmed Vendors:
CAN: Ashkeebs (https://www.ashkeebs.com/)
US: Space Cables (https://spacecables.net)
EU: Candy keys (https://candykeys.com)
UK: Prototypist (https://prototypist.net)
ASIA: KBDFans (https://kbdfans.com)
OCEANIA: SwitchKeys (https://www.switchkeys.com.au)

Hey just wondering in regards to Space Cables, will it be on their old website that you linked? Or rather their SpaceHoldings domain?

Spaceholdings has always been the only domain that they have. Space is trying to move away from being called SpaceCables since he does more than just cables now. :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 02.19.2021 Vendor Update
Post by: chung on Mon, 15 March 2021, 12:20:51
 :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Syper on Tue, 16 March 2021, 10:32:32
GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) Huge Novelty Update!

I felt like this set was missing that extra polish so I went ahead and got my friend to help me redo the novelties. Keep in mind they are only drawn drafts, the final versions will be GMK compliant and much more polished. What I need help with is to finalize the novelties to go with the set via a feedback poll!

Vote for the new novelties you like the most here: https://forms.gle/54MfcKRDR9g98ThD9

There are also some upcoming small kit changes, nothing big! Updated renders will come soon with the updated novelties.
- Removed 00 key from base kit
- Spacebar updated: removed 6U offcenter, one of the 1U. Added 2x 3U.

I am still aiming for a Q2 group buy, but it is likely it will be Q3. More info will be shared soon.

Novelty Update Summarized (vote here: https://forms.gle/54MfcKRDR9g98ThD9)
(https://i.imgur.com/tGdhg1c.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Oddstag on Tue, 16 March 2021, 10:45:10
The new designs are nice but I personally prefer the old ones. I praised the inclusion of 2 1u spacebars before and would be very disappointed to see one go. Personally these changes put me from a locked in yes to a probably no, but I might be alone there. Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Syper on Tue, 16 March 2021, 11:02:53
The new designs are nice but I personally prefer the old ones. I praised the inclusion of 2 1u spacebars before and would be very disappointed to see one go. Personally these changes put me from a locked in yes to a probably no, but I might be alone there. Thanks for the update.

I'm curious, is it because the design went from a minimalistic vibe to a more animated one? The old designs were a bit stiff and wasn't really cohesive in design. So with the new novelties I hope to bring it all together while also including some more marbling with this new style for the steaks (highly requested).

Regarding the spacebar kit, I dropped down to only 1x 1U to still provide support for some Alice boards (bear 65%, which I bought!). It is to my understanding that 2x 1U is mainly for othro keyboards and I do not have a 40% kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 16 March 2021, 11:38:49
vote submitted!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Vibex on Tue, 16 March 2021, 11:40:32
Definitely preferred the old novelties. The only ones I wasn't a fan of where the R4 ones.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Oddstag on Tue, 16 March 2021, 14:14:54
The new designs are nice but I personally prefer the old ones. I praised the inclusion of 2 1u spacebars before and would be very disappointed to see one go. Personally these changes put me from a locked in yes to a probably no, but I might be alone there. Thanks for the update.

I'm curious, is it because the design went from a minimalistic vibe to a more animated one? The old designs were a bit stiff and wasn't really cohesive in design. So with the new novelties I hope to bring it all together while also including some more marbling with this new style for the steaks (highly requested).

Regarding the spacebar kit, I dropped down to only 1x 1U to still provide support for some Alice boards (bear 65%, which I bought!). It is to my understanding that 2x 1U is mainly for othro keyboards and I do not have a 40% kit.

Yeah I have a 2.25u + 2.75u split space layout that has 1u on either side that I like as spacebars rather than mods. I can get a 40’s kit from another wob set and at this rate I’ll just do that and skip the spacebar kit here. As for novelties I don’t see what motivates the cartoon art style at all. The colours and typography are clean and refined. Wagyu beef is a gourmet attraction so the more mature art style seems like a better fit than a cartoon art style. If this was a set about candy or something I’d get it but not for a cut of meat that costs the same as the gmk set based on it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: kidgoth on Tue, 16 March 2021, 21:20:27
def prefer the stiff style of the old novelties
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Vibex on Wed, 17 March 2021, 07:55:03
As for novelties I don’t see what motivates the cartoon art style at all. The colours and typography are clean and refined. Wagyu beef is a gourmet attraction so the more mature art style seems like a better fit than a cartoon art style. If this was a set about candy or something I’d get it but not for a cut of meat that costs the same as the gmk set based on it.
+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Kinesiologist on Sat, 20 March 2021, 22:08:21
can you please add F13 into the base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Syper on Thu, 25 March 2021, 12:06:52
Sneak peek at the new final designs, basically a more refined lines and more pronounced shapes. I believe we struck a good middle ground between refined and stylized. Playing around with some eye shapes (ovals vs circles) and nose distance rn. More to come this weekend ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/4sHcQeR.png)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Oddstag on Thu, 25 March 2021, 14:38:52
I personally thought this set was ready to run before any of the recent changes. This latest is still too cartoony for my taste. I liked the idea of a sake novelty and thought maybe some japanese knives or a butcher’s diagram might be a neat addition if it kept to the old style. This new direction would be a no from me but it’s your set and you gotta stay true to your vision. Best of luck!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: vnflynn on Thu, 25 March 2021, 17:49:20
I'm also negative about the recent changes in novelties but I will keep it short . I think its hard to beat the original design because it captures both tastiness and gourmet treasures in one .
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: lush_bunny on Fri, 26 March 2021, 00:49:23
I'm cool with whatever, still a great set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: stomaha on Sun, 02 May 2021, 13:21:37
Heyo - is this still looking like Q3 for the GB?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: UGunaLOSE on Mon, 03 May 2021, 07:16:41
Novelties are pog!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: stomaha on Sat, 08 May 2021, 06:30:42
Next. level. pog.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: berto on Wed, 19 May 2021, 20:41:27
I'm interested, think I like these more than the katakana and hiragana sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: adi on Wed, 19 May 2021, 21:17:38
rama enter that just says MOOO pls
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: LiTurk on Wed, 19 May 2021, 21:32:15
love the set just sick for GMK lead times
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: Oddstag on Tue, 01 June 2021, 05:05:01
Given that this is an icon mods set it would be great to see a 40s kit as the last time I can think of a 40s wob kit with just icons was quite awhile ago.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: solartempest on Wed, 23 June 2021, 19:33:28
Loving this set!! My wife says it's the first set she would be excited about, which is actually pretty awesome. I have spent some time in Japan and she had lived there before. We love wagyu and cows, so it is a great match. What lluvia has mentioned is accurate. There are also many great western-style restaurants that serve wagyu in Japan which are well loved by foreigners and residents alike.

If it's possible to include more 1U novelties I would be very happy! My keyboard layout has very few 1.25U and 1.5U keys they don't have much of a use (for me at least). I like both the "cute" cow and the more "serious" looking one. The styles are quite different.

The tea set was nicely drawn and personally fits me much better than the sake, but I can understand some people may prefer the alternate. The round onion wasn't immediately obvious as an onion because typically they are sliced very thinly or in small chunks in Japan. As for the mushroom, it looked like a strange bowl at first before I realized/read it was a mushroom. Perhaps right side up or on an angle may be more obvious?

Happy to answer any questions on Japanese cuisine or culture (from our point of view at least). My wife and I are foodies. Hoping this set does well because I am excited about it. =)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 03.16.2021 Huge Novelty Update!
Post by: stomaha on Fri, 02 July 2021, 05:50:44
Any hope for an R1 equals (=) key so we can use this on compact 1800 boards like Zambumon's Sar?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kuroge Wagyū (黒毛和牛) WoB Hiragana - 11.05.21 Indefinite Hiatus
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 02 December 2021, 01:01:27
Sorry for necro but are there still plans on running this set?