Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:17:02
PM ME WITH YOUR FULL NAME + ADDRESS & QTY PURCHASING.
THANKS!
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This will be for the GB for clear clear switch tops, we definitely cannot hit the MOQ for the PBT sets so I'll shelve it for later, probably because Ivan just ran his PBT GB.
The clear switch covers are from Gateron - what Zeal has in stock currently.
Because my samples were delayed due to the massive logistics jam and holiday due to Chinese New Year in China, I'll have to start the GB first HAHAHA.
Tops are $0.16 each, registered mail shipping will be $10 per box of 100-200 switch tops.
I will be shipping the tops together with hwood's GB for Gateron Switches (I will look at both spreadsheets and adjust shipping accordingly).
To make my life easier, PLEASE TRY TO ORDER IN SETS OF 10, you'll need to submit a form for the GB even if you submitted one for the IC.
Here's the form for the GB: PM ME
Orders close March 12, invoicing begins Friday, 6 March
Thanks!
The clear switch covers are from Gateron - what Zeal has in stock currently.
Because my samples were delayed due to the massive logistics jam and holiday due to Chinese New Year in China, I'll have to start the GB first HAHAHA.
Tops are $0.16 each, registered mail shipping will be $10 per box of 100-200 switch tops.
I will be shipping the tops together with hwood's GB for Gateron Switches (I will look at both spreadsheets and adjust shipping accordingly).
To make my life easier, PLEASE TRY TO ORDER IN SETS OF 10, you'll need to submit a form for the GB even if you submitted one for the IC.
Here's the form for the GB: PM ME
Orders close March 12, invoicing begins Friday, 6 March
Thanks!
Clear switch covers without LED
(http://i.imgur.com/y9EXTU2.png)
INTEREST CHECK PORTION
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This interest check is for PBT blank sets (not BSP) in the dark grey & white (like the normal SP variation, like my IBM model M) (4 colours are available) and clear switch covers (not abostudio)
Price & MOQ is under discussion with the manufacturer, samples are on the way. PBT set includes standard 1.25x + 6x as well as 1.5x 1x + 7x, side stemmed stepped caps lock, centre stemmed caps lock & 1.75x shift (will need to confirm if the stepped is centre stemmed)
But as of now, it's around $31/set of PBT Blanks (hit 200) & $0.2/switch top, final will probably be lower since we can probably hit quite a bit
Shipping (registered mail AATW) estimates to be ~$5 for a set of switch top and ~$10 for caps
Kindly fill out the form to allow a better gauge of the numbers we can hit and I can negotiate better on the other end: http://goo.gl/forms/f3ZiGGs7jF
If there is enough interest, will commence GB when the samples arrive soon (within two weeks hopefully),
If I have taken anyone's picture and you would like me to credit you, kindly PM me.
Price & MOQ is under discussion with the manufacturer, samples are on the way. PBT set includes standard 1.25x + 6x as well as 1.5x 1x + 7x, side stemmed stepped caps lock, centre stemmed caps lock & 1.75x shift (will need to confirm if the stepped is centre stemmed)
But as of now, it's around $31/set of PBT Blanks (hit 200) & $0.2/switch top, final will probably be lower since we can probably hit quite a bit
Shipping (registered mail AATW) estimates to be ~$5 for a set of switch top and ~$10 for caps
Kindly fill out the form to allow a better gauge of the numbers we can hit and I can negotiate better on the other end: http://goo.gl/forms/f3ZiGGs7jF
If there is enough interest, will commence GB when the samples arrive soon (within two weeks hopefully),
If I have taken anyone's picture and you would like me to credit you, kindly PM me.
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White and dark grey
(http://i.imgur.com/CxZpgvK.jpg)
White, light grey, dark grey, black
(http://i.imgur.com/oa6aoJw.jpg)
Underside of caps to show the thickness
(http://i.imgur.com/ZTKCRAy.jpg)
Style like Model M caps
(http://i.imgur.com/uPnD0tm.jpg)
Clear switch covers without LED
(http://i.imgur.com/y9EXTU2.png)
Clear switch covers with LED
(http://i.imgur.com/FNxEjVd.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/CxZpgvK.jpg)
White, light grey, dark grey, black
(http://i.imgur.com/oa6aoJw.jpg)
Underside of caps to show the thickness
(http://i.imgur.com/ZTKCRAy.jpg)
Style like Model M caps
(http://i.imgur.com/uPnD0tm.jpg)
Clear switch covers without LED
(http://i.imgur.com/y9EXTU2.png)
Clear switch covers with LED
(http://i.imgur.com/FNxEjVd.png)
Post by: infiniti on Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:26:44
Is this white and dark gray?
(http://i.imgur.com/CxZpgvK.jpg)
Is that dark gray on the right?
(http://i.imgur.com/oa6aoJw.jpg)
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:28:52
The dark grey is the one on the right in this picture
(http://i.imgur.com/CxZpgvK.jpg)
This is (from left to right) white, light grey, dark grey, black.
(http://i.imgur.com/oa6aoJw.jpg)
Post by: rpeterclark on Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:45:13
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:47:43
I've been waiting for another source of clear switch tops. Interested!
Heard the abostudio ones have longevity issues, hopefully this one is more hardy.
Will post more pics when I get them!
Post by: infiniti on Mon, 02 February 2015, 08:49:12
According to the manufacturer, they are in Cherry profile, but I'll prefer to verify it myself when I get the samples.
The dark grey is the one on the right in this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/CxZpgvK.jpg)
This is (from left to right) white, light grey, dark grey, black.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oa6aoJw.jpg)
Alright. Form filled! :thumb:
Post by: honoka on Mon, 02 February 2015, 11:29:58
It's a blank set so basically only a Enter-key is needed and some additional blanks.
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 11:33:55
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 02 February 2015, 12:15:41
Post by: gravenshard on Mon, 02 February 2015, 12:26:28
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 02 February 2015, 14:03:27
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 02 February 2015, 16:37:30
....And the usual question, ISO?
It's a blank set so basically only a Enter-key is needed and some additional blanks.
I'll have to ask about ISO......shall we just assume w/o ISO kits atm first?
Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 February 2015, 16:52:03
Post by: Cottonsox on Mon, 02 February 2015, 17:02:15
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 02 February 2015, 17:20:23
Form filled, Is there any QC done on clear switch covers? I know there was an late last year but the covers were found to be to brittle and prone to breaking.There were actually two last year. The first one was apparently quite brittle but I never had any problems with the second round.
Post by: byker on Mon, 02 February 2015, 17:22:14
Post by: mason on Mon, 02 February 2015, 21:38:10
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 02 February 2015, 22:02:15
Shadovved have you considered this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231402339096?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
If people can get stuff for under $30 shipped anywhere in the world, a group buy at $40 base price is already a non starter especially if there is no certainty of quality.
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 03 February 2015, 00:53:24
They do have 6x, 6.25x and 7x spacebars however.
Apparently the manufacturer also doesn't own the tooling.
The 4 colours I was presented are slightly different as well.
(http://puu.sh/fplip/2f4db61250.jpg)
The Black isn't shown in the pic, but it's present in shadovved's. I have a darker beige that's not on his pic.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 06:25:45
I'm not going to jump on this yet.
Shadovved have you considered this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231402339096?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
If people can get stuff for under $30 shipped anywhere in the world, a group buy at $40 base price is already a non starter especially if there is no certainty of quality.
Shall just say that thin PBT and thick ones are vastly different in quality. And I will give a little more insight after the sample arrives........this is an IC, not a GB yet.
AND that the $40 is not fixed, it's still in the midst of discussion and will go down (substantially?) depending on numbers :))
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:05:56
:blank: let me announce here in this IC that I am only looking to buy 1u, so anyone who wants to buy mods and multiwides only please speak up and we can make a deal!
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:14:37
If you're just doing nego now, can you help me ask how much a gigantic crap bag of random blank 1u keycaps will be? If I buy, say, 500 or 1000? As long as there's random or equal numbers of each profile that's ok. I am using labels on matrix layout, so I only need each row of blanks to be the same profile. I want lots of white ones at a cheap price because I want to dye them.
:blank: let me announce here in this IC that I am only looking to buy 1u, so anyone who wants to buy mods and multiwides only please speak up and we can make a deal!
So, essentially you are looking for blank alphas in white? New keyboard project? ;D
I'll help you check it out, basically you want multiple alpha kits but not mods?
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:22:25
If you're just doing nego now, can you help me ask how much a gigantic crap bag of random blank 1u keycaps will be? If I buy, say, 500 or 1000? As long as there's random or equal numbers of each profile that's ok. I am using labels on matrix layout, so I only need each row of blanks to be the same profile. I want lots of white ones at a cheap price because I want to dye them.
:blank: let me announce here in this IC that I am only looking to buy 1u, so anyone who wants to buy mods and multiwides only please speak up and we can make a deal!
So, essentially you are looking for blank alphas in white? New keyboard project? ;D
I'll help you check it out, basically you want multiple alpha kits but not mods?
I may be interested in modifier keys for the main section of the board, the 60% area, in black and white as well.
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:32:49
So, essentially you are looking for blank alphas in white? New keyboard project? ;D
I'll help you check it out, basically you want multiple alpha kits but not mods?
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TY my dear Shadovved, that is see beh appreciated.
What I want are lots of 1u keys, white PBT, cheap. That allows me to do all kinds of dye jobs after which I'll label the keys myself. No need to be fixed as 'alpha kits' because I am not using conventional layout. I am using matrix layout so about equal numbers of each row profile are better for me. I don't really want lots of the 37-key sets that are so common on Taobao, because that means I don't get enough of the function row/ top row keys with higher profile.
That said, you not botak now meh? Aren't you supposed to be some full time NS slave?
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:41:31
So, essentially you are looking for blank alphas in white? New keyboard project? ;D
I'll help you check it out, basically you want multiple alpha kits but not mods?
TY my dear Shadovved, that is see beh appreciated.
What I want are lots of 1u keys, white PBT, cheap. That allows me to do all kinds of dye jobs after which I'll label the keys myself. No need to be fixed as 'alpha kits' because I am not using conventional layout. I am using matrix layout so about equal numbers of each row profile are better for me. I don't really want lots of the 37-key sets that are so common on Taobao, because that means I don't get enough of the function row/ top row keys with higher profile.
That said, you not botak now meh? Aren't you supposed to be some full time NS slave?
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Okay so.......if not random bags then sets of alpha lor......
And yes, NS now, I stay-out.
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 03 February 2015, 08:01:59
1) To buy 100 1u keys of each row profile.
OR
2) To buy a crap bag of 500-1000 that has the different profiles fairly evenly distributed.
OR
3) To buy 4 sets of 104/108 keys. After which I'll just dye and sell the mods. So far everybody who has bought or received dyed keys from me has been satisfied.
Option 1 is most sought after by me.
Option 2 is what I hope will be offered at a very cheap price, so that my whole family can have fun dyeing.
Option 3 is what I suspect I will end up with if their machinery auto-sorts and packs.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 08:04:05
How about I make my request more focused so easier to figure out when you're talking to the PRC makers.
1) To buy 100 1u keys of each row profile.
OR
2) To buy a crap bag of 500-1000 that has the different profiles fairly evenly distributed.
OR
3) To buy 4 sets of 104/108 keys. After which I'll just dye and sell the mods. So far everybody who has bought or received dyed keys from me has been satisfied.
Option 1 is most sought after by me.
Option 2 is what I hope will be offered at a very cheap price, so that my whole family can have fun dyeing.
Option 3 is what I suspect I will end up with if their machinery auto-sorts and packs.
Alright, will do. Keep an eye out for you (Y)
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 February 2015, 17:19:19
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 February 2015, 17:21:42
I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.
With shipping?
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 February 2015, 17:23:45
Pricing qtan told me:I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.
With shipping?
65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars
shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:32:53
Pricing qtan told me:I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.
With shipping?
65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars
shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.
Hm. Time to ask.
Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:35:55
qtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing :'(Pricing qtan told me:I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.
With shipping?
65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars
shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.
Hm. Time to ask.
Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:38:05
qtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing :'(Pricing qtan told me:I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.
With shipping?
65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars
shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.
Hm. Time to ask.
Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
Alrighty, see what my research comes up. The covers might come from another place.......hopefully they'll have good pricing.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:43:53
Where did you get your estimate from?qtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing :'(Pricing qtan told me:I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.
With shipping?
65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars
shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.
Hm. Time to ask.
Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
Alrighty, see what my research comes up. The covers might come from another place.......hopefully they'll have good pricing.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:44:51
I got mine hereqtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing :'(Pricing qtan told me:I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.
With shipping?
65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars
shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.
Hm. Time to ask.
Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
Alrighty, see what my research comes up. The covers might come from another place.......hopefully they'll have good pricing.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141002.5.TjuQwj&scm=1007.10009.3949.i43135957998&id=42053980510&pvid=1666e8a9-3518-474a-82f4-4f67f5fbd20b
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:29:11
I got mine hereqtan, my bad. I bought something off of feng last week, how embarrassing, the one time I didn't bother to check who I was referencing :'(Pricing qtan told me:I bought 108 of the clear switch tops with proxying to the US from feng for only 33 USD.
With shipping?
65 cover - 14 dollars
90 cover - 19 dollars
108 cover- 21 dollars
shipping is 8 dollar airmail (USPS) my fee is 7% plus 3.9% paypal fee apply to total.
Hm. Time to ask.
Did you talk to qtan or feng? Your first post says feng but the second one says qtan.
Alrighty, see what my research comes up. The covers might come from another place.......hopefully they'll have good pricing.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141002.5.TjuQwj&scm=1007.10009.3949.i43135957998&id=42053980510&pvid=1666e8a9-3518-474a-82f4-4f67f5fbd20b
That picture looks suspiciously similar. HAHAHA.
I've asked.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:31:12
Post by: MGH on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:32:20
Price has been changed to 0.2/pc for switch tops atm. Probably can go slightly lower.Great price :thumb:
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:33:47
Price has been changed to 0.2/pc for switch tops atm. Probably can go slightly lower.Great price :thumb:
If anyone would like to edit their qty, just submit a new form and I'll delete the earlier one ;D
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:34:16
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:36:06
Once mine get here, I can give info about the quality & more info about them.
Yeap, the more opinions on the quality we have, the better decisions we can make!
Thanks bro!
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:37:17
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:40:29
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:43:14
Hopefully these don't break as easy as the ones ran before.
After my samples arrive, I'll be sending a few people who signed up in the IC, and since pwnnarwhal has got some as well, we can investigate the durability.
When are you planning to turn this into a GB?
Soon? Probably March or so. The fulfillment doesnt take long, I guess.
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:44:19
are we allowed to order more?
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:45:28
Hopefully these don't break as easy as the ones ran before.
After my samples arrive, I'll be sending a few people who signed up in the IC, and since pwnnarwhal has got some as well, we can investigate the durability.When are you planning to turn this into a GB?
Soon? Probably March or so. The fulfillment doesnt take long, I guess.
Awesome, just in time to build my upcoming Infinity board.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:45:37
I signed up for 1k Pieces so I'm hoping these are good indeed
Eh of course. This is an IC so I set the upper boundary at 1000.
But when I turn this into GB then I'll allow text input responses for qty, but probably still in 100s or 110s to save me from counting one by one.........
Hopefully these don't break as easy as the ones ran before.
After my samples arrive, I'll be sending a few people who signed up in the IC, and since pwnnarwhal has got some as well, we can investigate the durability.When are you planning to turn this into a GB?
Soon? Probably March or so. The fulfillment doesnt take long, I guess.
Awesome, just in time to build my upcoming Infinity board.
I expect it to reach you guys by early/mid April
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:46:36
Post by: Cottonsox on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:46:57
I signed up for 1k Pieces so I'm hoping these are good indeed
Even with a 90% failure rate, you should be ok to finish of a keyboard:D
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:47:36
Orrrrrr. You can count them 1 by 1 to show people u don't give a **** and ur a boss?
Eh. No :p
I'll use an electric balance for a packet of fixed covers probably.
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:47:49
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:48:31
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Wed, 04 February 2015, 22:07:50
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 04 February 2015, 22:15:22
Two things I am always looking for, cant wait to add some of these tops to some of my boards :thumb:Once mine come since I ordered directly, I can send you a few if you want to test them or since I know your other ones didn't work too well.
Post by: Geroximo on Thu, 05 February 2015, 13:05:37
If so, I'm in.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:39:08
Do these clear switch covers allow opening a plate-mounted switch without desoldering it?
If so, I'm in.
That would depend on the plate you are using more than the switch covers.......
You need a plate with notches cut out to allow removal of switch tops without desoldering :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:43:42
Post by: swornxin on Thu, 05 February 2015, 19:50:23
Post by: pmh1410 on Thu, 05 February 2015, 22:42:06
I got some clear top cover and try custom it with Black 59g, it's very good and smooth. Product from Gateron ( not Abostudio)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 06 February 2015, 08:03:27
I am especially interested in the thick PBT sets.
I prefer the grey tones, because blank sets in black / white are readily available.
Also, I'd prefer 1tone sets. At these prices I'd prefer to buy two sets for mix 'n' match. This way people can choose between classic and symmectrical look ("`~" and "\|" keys).
Concerning ISO it would be great if each set contained an extra 1.25 key (as left shift) and 2 extra alphas.
People could use the enter keys from other sets. An Enter key in a different color would be a nice accent on a blank set I think :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 February 2015, 08:29:32
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 06 February 2015, 09:06:13
Hi Shadovved, i'm interest a set but i would to know who made it ?
I got some clear top cover and try custom it with Black 59g, it's very good and smooth. Product from Gateron ( not Abostudio)
Yes, it should be the same.
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 06 February 2015, 09:06:48
Filled out the form.
I am especially interested in the thick PBT sets.
I prefer the grey tones, because blank sets in black / white are readily available.
Also, I'd prefer 1tone sets. At these prices I'd prefer to buy two sets for mix 'n' match. This way people can choose between classic and symmectrical look ("`~" and "\|" keys).
Concerning ISO it would be great if each set contained an extra 1.25 key (as left shift) and 2 extra alphas.
People could use the enter keys from other sets. An Enter key in a different color would be a nice accent on a blank set I think :thumb:
I could ask if that could be purchased separately, the 1.25x and two 1x keys........probably just cost a little more on top of the set??
Currently the full beige/white and the full black sets are looking the most popular.
Could probably run the GB offering 1-tone sets and a select few 2-tone sets that are more popular.......really depends.
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 06 February 2015, 09:06:54
When is this IC going to turn into a GB?
Would start the GB probably late Feb, would like the samples to arrive before I jump into GB.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 06 February 2015, 09:36:51
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 06 February 2015, 10:22:22
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 06 February 2015, 10:35:17
What is the purpose of the clear top? For the LED light to shine through the switch? That's purely an aesthetic mod, isn't it?Clear switch tops are purely for aesthetic
Post by: mroverkill on Fri, 06 February 2015, 13:16:55
I'd consider picking up a set of white mods or even a full white set as long as they are pure white and not a beige or off-white.
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 06 February 2015, 22:20:01
Definitely interested in a set of thick dark grey PBT blanks.
I'd consider picking up a set of white mods or even a full white set as long as they are pure white and not a beige or off-white.
All the single colour options should be available seeing that interest is mainly in single colour sets.
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 07 February 2015, 13:54:51
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 February 2015, 14:00:21
When is this IC going to turn into a GB?
Would start the GB probably late Feb, would like the samples to arrive before I jump into GB.
Is the same date for both, the caps and the tops? Please excuse me if this has been explained before.
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 07 February 2015, 14:02:07
When is this IC going to turn into a GB?
Would start the GB probably late Feb, would like the samples to arrive before I jump into GB.
Is the same date for both, the caps and the tops? Please excuse me if this has been explained before.
Yeap, I'll run it together, if the interest for both is sufficient, if not, I'll run the one that is enough.
The clear tops is looking good, if that's what you are asking :))
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 07 February 2015, 14:30:27
Post by: mroverkill on Sat, 07 February 2015, 16:05:39
Definitely interested in a set of thick dark grey PBT blanks.
I'd consider picking up a set of white mods or even a full white set as long as they are pure white and not a beige or off-white.
All the single colour options should be available seeing that interest is mainly in single colour sets.
Awesome, I'm in for Dark Grey and White at $31/set for sure. Not sure if you need to update my form entry to reflect that.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 February 2015, 16:08:31
When is this IC going to turn into a GB?
Would start the GB probably late Feb, would like the samples to arrive before I jump into GB.
Is the same date for both, the caps and the tops? Please excuse me if this has been explained before.
Yeap, I'll run it together, if the interest for both is sufficient, if not, I'll run the one that is enough.
The clear tops is looking good, if that's what you are asking :))
Give me my clear tops, take my money... :)
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 07 February 2015, 17:30:35
Can we take part in the GB without participating in the IC?
Post by: yode on Sat, 07 February 2015, 17:39:55
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 February 2015, 17:59:40
Will it be $10 to ship the caps internationally?
Can we take part in the GB without participating in the IC?
I think so, they are always independent, however I do not see the point of not participating in the IC if you want to buy them.
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 07 February 2015, 18:10:37
Will it be $10 to ship the caps internationally?
Can we take part in the GB without participating in the IC?
I think so, they are always independent, however I do not see the point of not participating in the IC if you want to buy them.
Because I am not sure I want to buy them to be honest, so I don't want to twist the number by adding my command as I'm not sure it will be made.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 February 2015, 18:12:16
Will it be $10 to ship the caps internationally?
Can we take part in the GB without participating in the IC?
I think so, they are always independent, however I do not see the point of not participating in the IC if you want to buy them.
Because I am not sure I want to buy them to be honest, so I don't want to twist the number by adding my command as I'm not sure it will be made.
Then there is no rush, just wait until the GB be offered and you could join then, if your mind has arrived at a harbor.
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 07 February 2015, 18:13:43
Will it be $10 to ship the caps internationally?
Can we take part in the GB without participating in the IC?
I think so, they are always independent, however I do not see the point of not participating in the IC if you want to buy them.
Because I am not sure I want to buy them to be honest, so I don't want to twist the number by adding my command as I'm not sure it will be made.
Then there is no rush, just wait until the GB be offered and you could join then, if your mind has arrived at a harbor.
Thanks that the answer I was looking for. :)
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 07 February 2015, 19:47:06
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 07 February 2015, 20:26:05
Definitely interested in a set of thick dark grey PBT blanks.
I'd consider picking up a set of white mods or even a full white set as long as they are pure white and not a beige or off-white.
All the single colour options should be available seeing that interest is mainly in single colour sets.
Awesome, I'm in for Dark Grey and White at $31/set for sure. Not sure if you need to update my form entry to reflect that.
No need, you already have one set logged under your name, I just need to gauge the interest for colours and numbers, not if you are definitely in or not :))
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 07 February 2015, 20:28:34
Any word yet on whether the stepped caps lock is off centered stem or not?
And no. Not yet. Nobody's replying me on weekends. But I'll make sure to ask ASAP, it is a pressing concern! ;D
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 07 February 2015, 21:10:43
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 07 February 2015, 21:37:54
And it is confirmed, stepped lock side stemmed, non-stepped lock centre stemmed.So quick. Thanks a bunch! :) I'm so in for this.
Post by: PB82 on Sat, 07 February 2015, 22:57:44
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 08 February 2015, 00:39:58
Any info on the texture on these?
Texture as in? The surface of the cap?
I'm can only guess that it's like the BSP ones, or maybe a little more textured.
I'll need to feel it when the sample arrives.
Post by: cinnamoncider on Sun, 08 February 2015, 07:46:43
Post by: mroverkill on Sun, 08 February 2015, 12:04:54
Definitely interested in a set of thick dark grey PBT blanks.
I'd consider picking up a set of white mods or even a full white set as long as they are pure white and not a beige or off-white.
All the single colour options should be available seeing that interest is mainly in single colour sets.
Awesome, I'm in for Dark Grey and White at $31/set for sure. Not sure if you need to update my form entry to reflect that.
No need, you already have one set logged under your name, I just need to gauge the interest for colours and numbers, not if you are definitely in or not :))
Meant to clarify two full sets, one dark grey, one white.
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 08 February 2015, 16:42:09
Definitely interested in a set of thick dark grey PBT blanks.
I'd consider picking up a set of white mods or even a full white set as long as they are pure white and not a beige or off-white.
All the single colour options should be available seeing that interest is mainly in single colour sets.
Awesome, I'm in for Dark Grey and White at $31/set for sure. Not sure if you need to update my form entry to reflect that.
No need, you already have one set logged under your name, I just need to gauge the interest for colours and numbers, not if you are definitely in or not :))
Meant to clarify two full sets, one dark grey, one white.
Alright, I'll change your entry to 2 sets instead.
I'll put your colour choice as dark grey first since white has enough votes to survive anyway :))
Post by: hjc1710 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 17:22:38
Post by: mroverkill on Sun, 08 February 2015, 19:54:54
No need, you already have one set logged under your name, I just need to gauge the interest for colours and numbers, not if you are definitely in or not :))
Meant to clarify two full sets, one dark grey, one white.
Alright, I'll change your entry to 2 sets instead.
I'll put your colour choice as dark grey first since white has enough votes to survive anyway :))
Great, that's what I would have wanted anyway.
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 09 February 2015, 17:59:34
No need, you already have one set logged under your name, I just need to gauge the interest for colours and numbers, not if you are definitely in or not :))
Meant to clarify two full sets, one dark grey, one white.
Alright, I'll change your entry to 2 sets instead.
I'll put your colour choice as dark grey first since white has enough votes to survive anyway :))
Great, that's what I would have wanted anyway.
Yeap, edited for you :thumb:
Post by: swill on Mon, 09 February 2015, 18:34:34
Post by: swill on Mon, 09 February 2015, 18:39:51
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 09 February 2015, 19:07:53
Sorry random question. Will the mods include the two caps | and ~ in the mod color so we can have a symmetrical layout? Would that be possible to support? Thx...
Probably will have it in both symmetrical layout and non-symmetrical layout, will need to ask the manufacturer to add extra caps.
But if the price goes down further, you guys probably can buy two sets and mix it according to your needs :thumb:
Post by: swill on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:22:14
Ya. That's what I was just thinking. I see in the spreadsheet that the price per set is $40, but in the thread it is $31. I am guessing the $31 number is more current?Sorry random question. Will the mods include the two caps | and ~ in the mod color so we can have a symmetrical layout? Would that be possible to support? Thx...
Probably will have it in both symmetrical layout and non-symmetrical layout, will need to ask the manufacturer to add extra caps.
But if the price goes down further, you guys probably can buy two sets and mix it according to your needs :thumb:
Thanks for doing this BTW. I forgot to mention that initially. I have much love for people with the gonads to run GBs. :)
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:37:07
Ya. That's what I was just thinking. I see in the spreadsheet that the price per set is $40, but in the thread it is $31. I am guessing the $31 number is more current?Sorry random question. Will the mods include the two caps | and ~ in the mod color so we can have a symmetrical layout? Would that be possible to support? Thx...
Probably will have it in both symmetrical layout and non-symmetrical layout, will need to ask the manufacturer to add extra caps.
But if the price goes down further, you guys probably can buy two sets and mix it according to your needs :thumb:
Thanks for doing this BTW. I forgot to mention that initially. I have much love for people with the gonads to run GBs. :)
Yea, thanks for pointing it out, I have edited the form accordingly :thumb:
Post by: swill on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:40:21
Cool. So do I understand correctly that if we get a bunch more orders we could potentially get additional reductions? This could be one of the best pbt options available right now. Really excited to hear what your impressions are when you get the samples.Ya. That's what I was just thinking. I see in the spreadsheet that the price per set is $40, but in the thread it is $31. I am guessing the $31 number is more current?Sorry random question. Will the mods include the two caps | and ~ in the mod color so we can have a symmetrical layout? Would that be possible to support? Thx...
Probably will have it in both symmetrical layout and non-symmetrical layout, will need to ask the manufacturer to add extra caps.
But if the price goes down further, you guys probably can buy two sets and mix it according to your needs :thumb:
Thanks for doing this BTW. I forgot to mention that initially. I have much love for people with the gonads to run GBs. :)
Yea, thanks for pointing it out, I have edited the form accordingly :thumb:
Post by: Kensy on Mon, 09 February 2015, 23:56:08
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 10 February 2015, 02:28:55
Cool. So do I understand correctly that if we get a bunch more orders we could potentially get additional reductions? This could be one of the best pbt options available right now. Really excited to hear what your impressions are when you get the samples.Ya. That's what I was just thinking. I see in the spreadsheet that the price per set is $40, but in the thread it is $31. I am guessing the $31 number is more current?Sorry random question. Will the mods include the two caps | and ~ in the mod color so we can have a symmetrical layout? Would that be possible to support? Thx...
Probably will have it in both symmetrical layout and non-symmetrical layout, will need to ask the manufacturer to add extra caps.
But if the price goes down further, you guys probably can buy two sets and mix it according to your needs :thumb:
Thanks for doing this BTW. I forgot to mention that initially. I have much love for people with the gonads to run GBs. :)
Yea, thanks for pointing it out, I have edited the form accordingly :thumb:
Yeap, if there's more orders then the prices should go down further. But I dunno how many orders we can get seeing Ivan just ran a PBT GB from BSP.
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 10 February 2015, 05:30:13
Post by: Hyde on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:04:00
So they should be cherry profile and the quality should be good too.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:49:40
Based from the pictures, I'm almost certain this is made from the same factory as IMSTO keycaps.
So they should be cherry profile and the quality should be good too.
Hm, imsto.......not bad. I never used imsto's PBT sets before.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 10 February 2015, 20:22:18
Based from the pictures, I'm almost certain this is made from the same factory as IMSTO keycaps.
So they should be cherry profile and the quality should be good too.
Hm, imsto.......not bad. I never used imsto's PBT sets before.
If they are actually same source than IMSTO the price is great. Do you have a close up picture of the caps?
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 20:43:39
Based from the pictures, I'm almost certain this is made from the same factory as IMSTO keycaps.I own IMSTO caps. I don't think the colors match to be honest, but I can pull them out and take pictures if we want.
So they should be cherry profile and the quality should be good too.
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 20:44:25
The quality does look great. I think this is going to be a great deal regardless.Based from the pictures, I'm almost certain this is made from the same factory as IMSTO keycaps.
So they should be cherry profile and the quality should be good too.
Hm, imsto.......not bad. I never used imsto's PBT sets before.
If they are actually same source than IMSTO the price is great. Do you have a close up picture of the caps?
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 10 February 2015, 23:10:33
Based from the pictures, I'm almost certain this is made from the same factory as IMSTO keycaps.
So they should be cherry profile and the quality should be good too.
Hm, imsto.......not bad. I never used imsto's PBT sets before.
If they are actually same source than IMSTO the price is great. Do you have a close up picture of the caps?
Eh, no. When the sample arrives then I can get some close-ups of my own.
Probably can compare with those from swill then.
Post by: _PixelNinja on Tue, 10 February 2015, 23:40:23
I'm hoping to get some blank black PBTs out of this. Have been struggling to find a set.Same here, I've been wanting to try out some cherry profile-like PBT blank black keys. Depending on how this goes I might jump on board for a set; the price is very attractive. I have posted a link to this group buy on a foreign forum to try and raise interest.
Question: is the black a true black or a dark grey (e.g. Vortex)?
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 10 February 2015, 23:43:54
I'm hoping to get some blank black PBTs out of this. Have been struggling to find a set.Same here, I've been wanting to try out some cherry profile-like PBT blank black keys. Depending on how this goes I might jump on board for a set; the price is very attractive. I have posted a link to this group buy on a foreign forum to try and raise interest.
Question: is the black a true black or a dark grey (e.g. Vortex)?
From the picture it looks a shade lighter than true black black. Might be because of the surface? I'll ask the manufacturer.
Feel free to repost and raise interest, if it's your own country you can always collate orders ;D
Post by: _PixelNinja on Wed, 11 February 2015, 00:44:16
We'll see what the manufacturer says then.
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 11 February 2015, 06:55:16
Post by: ideus on Wed, 11 February 2015, 07:07:12
Based from the pictures, I'm almost certain this is made from the same factory as IMSTO keycaps.
So they should be cherry profile and the quality should be good too.
Hm, imsto.......not bad. I never used imsto's PBT sets before.
If they are actually same source than IMSTO the price is great. Do you have a close up picture of the caps?
Eh, no. When the sample arrives then I can get some close-ups of my own.
Probably can compare with those from swill then.
If they are thick PBT in Cherry profile this was a sweet deal.
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 11 February 2015, 07:16:36
If they are thick PBT in Cherry profile this was a sweet deal.
If this was a sweet deal we aren't going to get it anymore?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 11 February 2015, 07:22:17
If they are thick PBT in Cherry profile this was a sweet deal.
If this was a sweet deal we aren't going to get it anymore?
:( I meant is
Post by: drewba on Wed, 11 February 2015, 11:55:40
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 11 February 2015, 14:08:25
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 11 February 2015, 16:29:57
Form filled!
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 11 February 2015, 16:42:16
On behalf of MK, submitted form for max amount of switch covers...how many would help bring the pricing down another notch or two?
Would your actual order be higher than 1000? Since that's the max in the IC.
Post by: swill on Wed, 11 February 2015, 20:33:29
I think he is asking how many more he would need to bring the price down more. How many more need to be ordered for us to hit the next major price break?On behalf of MK, submitted form for max amount of switch covers...how many would help bring the pricing down another notch or two?
Would your actual order be higher than 1000? Since that's the max in the IC.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 12 February 2015, 01:20:04
I think he is asking how many more he would need to bring the price down more. How many more need to be ordered for us to hit the next major price break?On behalf of MK, submitted form for max amount of switch covers...how many would help bring the pricing down another notch or two?
Would your actual order be higher than 1000? Since that's the max in the IC.
At the current volume, should be able to bring it down a few cents from the current 0.2
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 February 2015, 07:40:02
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 12 February 2015, 07:45:37
If the price for the covers gets down, this will be a deal everyone at GH should get. Either, if people want the clear covers for a current project, or they can keep them in stock just in case they need them in the future. I am waiting for a kit now, that I will not assembly until I get these clear covers.
Well not everyone wants to build keyboards themselves. Plus perhaps they don't like the clear look.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 February 2015, 08:07:43
If the price for the covers gets down, this will be a deal everyone at GH should get. Either, if people want the clear covers for a current project, or they can keep them in stock just in case they need them in the future. I am waiting for a kit now, that I will not assembly until I get these clear covers.
Well not everyone wants to build keyboards themselves. Plus perhaps they don't like the clear look.
Yeah right, maybe the hundreds of DIY keyboard kits that have been sold at GH and now at MD have been all bought by the same dozen of crazy fellows that like to build their own boards.
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 12 February 2015, 16:25:06
If the price for the covers gets down, this will be a deal everyone at GH should get. Either, if people want the clear covers for a current project, or they can keep them in stock just in case they need them in the future. I am waiting for a kit now, that I will not assembly until I get these clear covers.
Well not everyone wants to build keyboards themselves. Plus perhaps they don't like the clear look.
Yeah right, maybe the hundreds of DIY keyboard kits that have been sold at GH and now at MD have been all bought by the same dozen of crazy fellows that like to build their own boards.
Well I believe there are 35 000 users on geekhack IIRC. No hard feelings, it is just that I wanted to put some more perspective on your "this will be a deal everyone at GH should get".
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 12 February 2015, 16:39:20
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 February 2015, 16:44:29
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 12 February 2015, 16:53:23
switch. Now that I'm using black stems, I noticed they aren't as tight as clear stems and I don't have the issue, but that is pretty disappointing. I've never had a Nixdorf switch
in hand, but I assume the demand for them is partially because the plastic quality is much better.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 February 2015, 16:59:29
Does anyone know the brand and quality of these clear switch tops? I've had an abostudio pop while pulling the keycap off the stem and the stem just came straight out of the
switch. Now that I'm using black stems, I noticed they aren't as tight as clear stems and I don't have the issue, but that is pretty disappointing. I've never had a Nixdorf switch
in hand, but I assume the demand for them is partially because the plastic quality is much better.
+1 for this question. I have read people reporting some brittle tops that can be easily break, and others that are made of ABS whose strength is higher.
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 12 February 2015, 17:08:51
There were 5974 unique posters last year, out of 16106 members logged in in the same period. However there are 38737 total registered members, but less than half were active and less than half, of the half, got involved in discussions. Therefore, there are ~6k active members at GH.Thanks for the stats.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 February 2015, 17:10:52
There were 5974 unique posters last year, out of 16106 members logged in in the same period. However there are 38737 total registered members, but less than half were active and less than half, of the half, got involved in discussions. Therefore, there are ~6k active members at GH.Thanks for the stats.
Your welcome, they are always interesting. :)
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 12 February 2015, 17:11:36
There were 5974 unique posters last year, out of 16106 members logged in in the same period. However there are 38737 total registered members, but less than half were active and less than half, of the half, got involved in discussions. Therefore, there are ~6k active members at GH.Thanks for the stats.Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji2.png)
Your welcome, they are always interesting. :)
How did you get them by the way?
Post by: byker on Thu, 12 February 2015, 17:12:21
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 February 2015, 17:13:29
There were 5974 unique posters last year, out of 16106 members logged in in the same period. However there are 38737 total registered members, but less than half were active and less than half, of the half, got involved in discussions. Therefore, there are ~6k active members at GH.Thanks for the stats.Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji2.png)
Your welcome, they are always interesting. :)
How did you get them by the way?
Check the bottom of the home page, you will find all those figures and some more. You can even see how many members are active, real time.
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 12 February 2015, 17:52:54
I have never looked there actually! ThanksThere were 5974 unique posters last year, out of 16106 members logged in in the same period. However there are 38737 total registered members, but less than half were active and less than half, of the half, got involved in discussions. Therefore, there are ~6k active members at GH.Thanks for the stats.Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji2.png)
Your welcome, they are always interesting. :)
How did you get them by the way?
Check the bottom of the home page, you will find all those figures and some more. You can even see how many members are active, real time.
.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 February 2015, 18:02:31
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 13 February 2015, 00:41:53
Does anyone know the brand and quality of these clear switch tops? I've had an abostudio pop while pulling the keycap off the stem and the stem just came straight out of the
switch. Now that I'm using black stems, I noticed they aren't as tight as clear stems and I don't have the issue, but that is pretty disappointing. I've never had a Nixdorf switch
in hand, but I assume the demand for them is partially because the plastic quality is much better.
+1 for this question. I have read people reporting some brittle tops that can be easily break, and others that are made of ABS whose strength is higher.
Manufacturer says polyamide.
Post by: drewba on Fri, 13 February 2015, 09:37:52
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)
Male to Female Ratio: 29.8:1
That is a fun fact!
Post by: ideus on Fri, 13 February 2015, 11:24:12
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)
Male to Female Ratio: 29.8:1
That is a fun fact!
The question is if the ~200 active females are really girls. Otherwise the ratio would be higher.
Post by: drewba on Fri, 13 February 2015, 11:28:09
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)
Male to Female Ratio: 29.8:1
That is a fun fact!
The question is if the ~200 active females are really girls. Otherwise the ratio would be higher.
Great question! Something something there are no girls on the internet...
Post by: ideus on Fri, 13 February 2015, 12:30:47
Post by: cooldiscretion on Fri, 13 February 2015, 12:33:49
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)
Male to Female Ratio: 29.8:1
That is a fun fact!
Time to work on my GeekHack pickup game I guess. :D
Came to GH for the ladies, stayed for the keycaps.
Post by: cmadrid on Fri, 13 February 2015, 15:43:53
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 14 February 2015, 06:19:19
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)
Male to Female Ratio: 29.8:1
That is a fun fact!
Time to work on my GeekHack pickup game I guess. :D
Came to GH for the keyboards, stayed for the clacks.
FTFY.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 14 February 2015, 09:03:43
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)
Male to Female Ratio: 29.8:1
That is a fun fact!
Time to work on my GeekHack pickup game I guess. :D
Came to GH for the keyboards, stayed for the clacks.
FTFY.
Clacks instead of females? Nah, I'd prefer to be warm, than to stare at an ugly piece of plastic that may be even more expensive. :)
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 14 February 2015, 09:44:57
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)
Male to Female Ratio: 29.8:1
That is a fun fact!
Time to work on my GeekHack pickup game I guess. :D
Came to GH for the keyboards, stayed for the clacks.
FTFY.
Clacks instead of females? Nah, I'd prefer to be warm, than to stare at an ugly piece of plastic that may be even more expensive. :)
Well. True. But this is GH, clacks triumphs all :p
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 14 February 2015, 22:59:44
Either way, the girls are here.https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)
Male to Female Ratio: 29.8:1
That is a fun fact!
Time to work on my GeekHack pickup game I guess. :D
Came to GH for the keyboards, stayed for the clacks.
FTFY.
Clacks instead of females? Nah, I'd prefer to be warm, than to stare at an ugly piece of plastic that may be even more expensive. :)
Well. True. But this is GH, clacks triumphs all
Post by: Eiji on Sun, 15 February 2015, 02:13:11
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 15 February 2015, 02:52:24
Either way, the girls are here.https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)
Male to Female Ratio: 29.8:1
That is a fun fact!
Time to work on my GeekHack pickup game I guess. :D
Came to GH for the keyboards, stayed for the clacks.
FTFY.
Clacks instead of females? Nah, I'd prefer to be warm, than to stare at an ugly piece of plastic that may be even more expensive. :)
Well. True. But this is GH, clacks triumphs all
Easier to get girls when you have CCs eh :p
Post by: Asininity on Sun, 15 February 2015, 04:26:06
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 15 February 2015, 04:35:56
I'm interested in both a blank whites and clear switch covers. Do they offer other colors, like red?
Probably they have to custom. But that could be an option for v2, after we have built a relationship with the manufacturer.
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 15 February 2015, 06:19:35
I saw the link and it looks exactly like the abostudio ones but I saw some gateron switches have tops like the old nixdorf switches.
Would it be the clear one then I assume?
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 15 February 2015, 06:26:10
Heya, just wondering if the clear switch covers are of a transparent finish or like a matte like finish?
I saw the link and it looks exactly like the abostudio ones but I saw some gateron switches have tops like the old nixdorf switches.
Would it be the clear one then I assume?
It's not the milky one, it's the transparent clear ones.
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 15 February 2015, 07:46:37
Heya, just wondering if the clear switch covers are of a transparent finish or like a matte like finish?
I saw the link and it looks exactly like the abostudio ones but I saw some gateron switches have tops like the old nixdorf switches.
Would it be the clear one then I assume?
It's not the milky one, it's the transparent clear ones.
ah alright. thanks for the clarification :D
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 15 February 2015, 08:01:00
Post by: oledome on Tue, 17 February 2015, 12:41:33
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 17 February 2015, 13:28:56
What's the word on ISO?
Go ANSI :P
Seriously, trolls aside, I did it and I don't regret. You have so many keycaps choices now and it is not that hard to accommodate as I would have thought at first.
Post by: honoka on Tue, 17 February 2015, 13:46:42
Go ANSI :P
Seriously, trolls aside, I did it and I don't regret. You have so many keycaps choices now and it is not that hard to accommodate as I would have thought at first.
But but but.... What about all my ISO-boards? I wish the whole world had one standard... Since you know, standard means you have one general way of doing things.
ANSI and fifteen thousand versions of ISO is stupid.
Post by: oledome on Tue, 17 February 2015, 13:58:12
Go ANSI :P
Seriously, trolls aside, I did it and I don't regret. You have so many keycaps choices now and it is not that hard to accommodate as I would have thought at first.
It does seem that with a lot of GB/IC (and I've only been here 5 minutes) the question of ISO is raised, there seems to be a demand for it and and it gets overlooked even on blank keys. Maybe switching standard is the way to go, but seems a shame. Hey Shadovved, how many sets are to be produced
Post by: swill on Tue, 17 February 2015, 14:21:32
This is not GMK, this is thick pbt. You would probably need about a million sets to get a 31$ price point for a GMK set.Go ANSI
Seriously, trolls aside, I did it and I don't regret. You have so many keycaps choices now and it is not that hard to accommodate as I would have thought at first.
It does seem that with a lot of GB/IC (and I've only been here 5 minutes) the question of ISO is raised, there seems to be a demand for it and and it gets overlooked even on blank keys. Maybe switching standard is the way to go, but seems a shame. Hey Shadovved, how many sets are to be produced by GMK to achieve $31 a set?
Post by: oledome on Tue, 17 February 2015, 14:23:38
This is not GMK, this is thick pbt. You would probably need about a million sets to get a 31$ price point for a GMK set.Go ANSI
Seriously, trolls aside, I did it and I don't regret. You have so many keycaps choices now and it is not that hard to accommodate as I would have thought at first.
It does seem that with a lot of GB/IC (and I've only been here 5 minutes) the question of ISO is raised, there seems to be a demand for it and and it gets overlooked even on blank keys. Maybe switching standard is the way to go, but seems a shame. Hey Shadovved, how many sets are to be produced by GMK to achieve $31 a set?
I got confused, substitute "GMK" for "the company what makes thick plastic PBT keys" :thumb:
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:43:51
Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:45:14
Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:46:33
This is not GMK, tdhis is thick pbt. You would probably need about a million sets to get a 31$ price point for a GMK set.[quoidte author=Ngt link=topic=68356.msg1645242#msg1645242 date=1424201336]
Go ANSI
Seriously, trolls aside, I did it and I don't regret. You have so many keycaps choices now and it is not that hard to aaccommodations zas I would have thought at first.
It does seem that with a lot of GB/IC (and I've only been here 5 minutes) the question of ISO is raised, there seems to be a demand for it and and it gets overlooked even on blank keys. Maybe switching standard is the way to go, but seems a shame. Hey Shadovved, how many sets are to be produced by GMK to achieve $31 a set?
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Are these the gateron clear switch tops?
This is not GMK, this is thick pbt. You would probably need about a million sets to get a 31$ price point for a GMK set.Go ANSI
Seriously, trolls aside, I did it and I don't regret. You have so many keycaps choices now and it is not that hard to accommodate as I would have thought at first.
It does seem that with a lot of GB/IC (and I've only been here 5 minutes) the question of ISO is raised, there seems to be a demand for it and and it gets overlooked even on blank keys. Maybe switching standard is the way to go, but seems a shame. Hey Shadovved, how many sets are to be produced by GMK to achieve $31 a set?
I got confused, substitute "GMK" for "the company what makes thick plastic PBT keys" :thumb:
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:47:47
Are these the gateron clear switch tops?
Yeap. The legendary ones ;D
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:52:03
Are these the gateron clear switch tops?
Yeap. The legendary ones ;D
Clear clear? or milk clear?
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:52:59
Are these the gateron clear switch tops?
Yeap. The legendary ones ;D
Clear clear? or milk clear?
The clear clear ones.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:54:20
The clear clear ones.
Awesome! i hope i can scrape up some change to join this
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:55:15
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:55:27
The clear clear ones.
Awesome! i hope i can scrape up some change to join this
It's not that expensive :))
And I can accept payments in clacks :p
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:56:38
It's not that expensive :))
And I can accept payments in clacks :p
:))
i have no clacks....
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:59:17
It's not that expensive :))
And I can accept payments in clacks :p
:))
i have no clacks....
HUEHUEHUE
Post by: ideus on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:03:15
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:06:15
When are you gonna charge the accounts? The answer may be somewhere already, just to busy, as in lazy, to read the entire thread. :))
I'll charge you guys around 1 week before the end date, so I can reduce the delay for the turnaround time. And this way you guys can have slightly more time to pay.
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:07:16
Ordered 300,will there be a cheaper price after a certain amount?
It could, but this price is from the projected numbers from the IC + around 20%.
If we exceed the number by really a lot, we could push it down slightly (it's in cents already)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:08:20
Yeah, just wondering, because I can buy 200 of these for the price of 100 that I got off of taobao.Ordered 300,will there be a cheaper price after a certain amount?
It could, but this price is from the projected numbers from the IC + around 20%.
If we exceed the number by really a lot, we could push it down slightly (it's in cents already)
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:11:19
Yeah, just wondering, because I can buy 200 of these for the price of 100 that I got off of taobao.Ordered 300,will there be a cheaper price after a certain amount?
It could, but this price is from the projected numbers from the IC + around 20%.
If we exceed the number by really a lot, we could push it down slightly (it's in cents already)
Yea, that's the benefits of going direct to the factory. You cut out the margins for middlemen after middlemen :))
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:11:31
Post by: yode on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:30:00
Post by: ideus on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:30:12
When are you gonna charge the accounts? The answer may be somewhere already, just to busy, as in lazy, to read the entire thread. :))
I'll charge you guys around 1 week before the end date, so I can reduce the delay for the turnaround time. And this way you guys can have slightly more time to pay.
I will define how many covers and switches I need to set the orders.
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:32:13
PBT Blanks still on?
Nope. Not now. Probably run it in another few months, allow some time between the previous PBT buy?
When are you gonna charge the accounts? The answer may be somewhere already, just to busy, as in lazy, to read the entire thread. :))
I'll charge you guys around 1 week before the end date, so I can reduce the delay for the turnaround time. And this way you guys can have slightly more time to pay.
I will define how many covers and switches I need to set the orders.
Yea, you have the option of changing your order anytime by PMing me :thumb:
Post by: Data on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:37:41
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:38:57
I've never changed a switch top. What should I expect?It is stupidly simple. You need a small flathead screwdriver, and a little bit of length to your fingernails, and thats it, as long as the switches are out of the board. If your board supports switch top removal, I do it by sticking the flathead and pushing out, and lifting up each side.
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:40:42
I've never changed a switch top. What should I expect?
Expect to use Beast's switch toos and swap the switches. Time to practice, padawan.
Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:42:32
Post by: limitz on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:49:49
I've been waiting for another source of clear switch tops. Interested!
Heard the abostudio ones have longevity issues, hopefully this one is more hardy.
Will post more pics when I get them!
They're total ****.
I've removed countless keycaps with no issues. Used Abostudios clear covers, and on a single board, 2 keys sheared clear from the top while removing a key. Both keys had to be desoldered/resoldered.
I was extremely careful in removing and was extremely slow in wiggling the keys off, didn't matter though.
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:51:45
I've been waiting for another source of clear switch tops. Interested!
Heard the abostudio ones have longevity issues, hopefully this one is more hardy.
Will post more pics when I get them!
They're total ****.
I've removed countless keycaps with no issues. Used Abostudios clear covers, and on a single board, 2 keys sheared clear from the top while removing a key. Both keys had to be desoldered/resoldered.
I was extremely careful in removing and was extremely slow in wiggling the keys off, didn't matter though.
Apparently these are much better, the people who have gotten some could chip in
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:54:38
Aren't these the ones Zeal just got?I've been waiting for another source of clear switch tops. Interested!
Heard the abostudio ones have longevity issues, hopefully this one is more hardy.
Will post more pics when I get them!
They're total ****.
I've removed countless keycaps with no issues. Used Abostudios clear covers, and on a single board, 2 keys sheared clear from the top while removing a key. Both keys had to be desoldered/resoldered.
I was extremely careful in removing and was extremely slow in wiggling the keys off, didn't matter though.
Apparently these are much better, the people who have gotten some could chip in
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:57:44
Aren't these the ones Zeal just got?I've been waiting for another source of clear switch tops. Interested!
Heard the abostudio ones have longevity issues, hopefully this one is more hardy.
Will post more pics when I get them!
They're total ****.
I've removed countless keycaps with no issues. Used Abostudios clear covers, and on a single board, 2 keys sheared clear from the top while removing a key. Both keys had to be desoldered/resoldered.
I was extremely careful in removing and was extremely slow in wiggling the keys off, didn't matter though.
Apparently these are much better, the people who have gotten some could chip in
Yeap.
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:59:23
I hope the ones I got from TB are quality, or at least better than those ones that break. Since these seem to be good ones though, I am excited for that.
Aren't these the ones Zeal just got?
Yeap.
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:01:09
I hope the ones I got from TB are quality, or at least better than those ones that break. Since these seem to be good ones though, I am excited for that.
Aren't these the ones Zeal just got?
Yeap.
Yours haven't arrived as well? The stupid CNY breakdown in everything :(
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:06:17
They will be here within a day or two. They actually went from New Jersey, to New York, which is kind of weird. I hadn't bothered inquiring about the tracking info, but they shipped from China on the 7th, and I got the tracking number a day or two ago. I am happy I ordered before they all took a break.I hope the ones I got from TB are quality, or at least better than those ones that break. Since these seem to be good ones though, I am excited for that.
Aren't these the ones Zeal just got?
Yeap.
Yours haven't arrived as well? The stupid CNY breakdown in everything :(
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:08:16
They will be here within a day or two. They actually went from New Jersey, to New York, which is kind of weird. I hadn't bothered inquiring about the tracking info, but they shipped from China on the 7th, and I got the tracking number a day or two ago. I am happy I ordered before they all took a break.I hope the ones I got from TB are quality, or at least better than those ones that break. Since these seem to be good ones though, I am excited for that.
Aren't these the ones Zeal just got?
Yeap.
Yours haven't arrived as well? The stupid CNY breakdown in everything :(
Good for you.........after my order shipped out from the factory everything went to hell :(
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:10:26
I am so happy that I bothered qtan about ordering mine when I did, because I only ordered mine a day or two before you did I think.They will be here within a day or two. They actually went from New Jersey, to New York, which is kind of weird. I hadn't bothered inquiring about the tracking info, but they shipped from China on the 7th, and I got the tracking number a day or two ago. I am happy I ordered before they all took a break.I hope the ones I got from TB are quality, or at least better than those ones that break. Since these seem to be good ones though, I am excited for that.
Aren't these the ones Zeal just got?
Yeap.
Yours haven't arrived as well? The stupid CNY breakdown in everything :(
Good for you.........after my order shipped out from the factory everything went to hell :(
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:12:30
I am so happy that I bothered qtan about ordering mine when I did, because I only ordered mine a day or two before you did I think.They will be here within a day or two. They actually went from New Jersey, to New York, which is kind of weird. I hadn't bothered inquiring about the tracking info, but they shipped from China on the 7th, and I got the tracking number a day or two ago. I am happy I ordered before they all took a break.I hope the ones I got from TB are quality, or at least better than those ones that break. Since these seem to be good ones though, I am excited for that.
Aren't these the ones Zeal just got?
Yeap.
Yours haven't arrived as well? The stupid CNY breakdown in everything :(
Good for you.........after my order shipped out from the factory everything went to hell :(
And now you rub it in HAHAHA :p
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:18:46
Is anyone still running a gateron switch buy?
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:19:41
I'll submit a second order (I just noticed the price change!!!)hwood just started one https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.0
Is anyone still running a gateron switch buy?
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:20:26
I'll submit a second order (I just noticed the price change!!!)
Is anyone still running a gateron switch buy?
Hwood is. But the billing and fulfilment will be via the great Shadovved Inc. :))
So shipping is counted one time for both buys. I'll do the necessary edits at the end of the GB.
PM me regarding order changes
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:30:15
Thx dudes!
Post by: cannonking on Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:50:25
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 19 February 2015, 04:29:31
Post by: infiniti on Thu, 19 February 2015, 04:40:45
Just ordered 200 of these. Now for some boards to put them on. :D
Now that's the GH spirit right there! :thumb:
Post by: pexon on Thu, 19 February 2015, 07:32:07
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:49:39
Surprised to see so much has changed in the few days since I was last here.
Can I check with you the following:
1) what is the MOQ of the PBT sets?
2) how many more sets do we need to buy to reach MOQ? EG if it's just 10 sets I can try helping everyone by buying the lot
3) is it possible to buy the crap bags still even if PBT moq is not met? Eg I could buy that 1000 1u bag, and for what price then?
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:54:17
When should the clear switch tops ship roughly?
It'll ship together with the gateron switch GB. Looking at end-March shipping out, may be slightly longer if I take longer to pack, I'll ship as I go.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:59:11
Shadovved
Surprised to see so much has changed in the few days since I was last here.
Can I check with you the following:
1) what is the MOQ of the PBT sets?
2) how many more sets do we need to buy to reach MOQ? EG if it's just 10 sets I can try helping everyone by buying the lot
3) is it possible to buy the crap bags still even if PBT moq is not met? Eg I could buy that 1000 1u bag, and for what price then?
1,2) We need at least 160 more sets, we have around 90 now.
3) I have PMed you on this matter before. Yes, you can buy a thousand loose keys even without the GB. However, nothing has changed since our last discussion, the price for the crap bag remains as it is, there's nothing I can do to help you if you think it's too expensive.........
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 11:08:21
Thanks
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 February 2015, 11:11:18
Not to be negative, but I'm wondering if there are any problems with these tops, as I've heard that they're not the best. Would anyone care to elaborate and/or correct me?
Thanks
Has anyone actually used these? The previous clear switch tops buys were abostudio products, these are different.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 19 February 2015, 11:14:02
Not to be negative, but I'm wondering if there are any problems with these tops, as I've heard that they're not the best. Would anyone care to elaborate and/or correct me?
Thanks
Has anyone actually used these? The previous clear switch tops buys were abostudio products, these are different.
DrhubblePHD has reviewed these tops, so has Zeal. But I guess more people will be receiving their switch covers from Zeal soon..........so we should have opinions coming.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 19 February 2015, 22:46:42
The clear tops will fit both :thumb:
Hope this clarifies something
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 February 2015, 22:48:04
Post by: Keyzus on Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:53:51
Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!
Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!
I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:55:04
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:01:54
Shadovved, did you realize what you were getting yourself into when you signed up for this job?PBT caps will be at a later time
Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!
Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!
I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:11:00
Shadovved, did you realize what you were getting yourself into when you signed up for this job?
Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!
Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!
I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.
Yeap, I dropped the PBT caps due to low interest, possible because a GB just ended.
And no, I doubt it'll kill me to sort some switches, it's gonna take more than that :))
I might take a little longer to sort all packages if the volume is overwhelming, but I'll ship as I go.
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:13:21
I assume 1 or 2 people have contributed multiple thousand, hopefully Gateron ships them in a organized way.Shadovved, did you realize what you were getting yourself into when you signed up for this job?
Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!
Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!
I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.
Yeap, I dropped the PBT caps due to low interest, possible because a GB just ended.
And no, I doubt it'll kill me to sort some switches, it's gonna take more than that :))
I might take a little longer to sort all packages if the volume is overwhelming, but I'll ship as I go.
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:25:02
I assume 1 or 2 people have contributed multiple thousand, hopefully Gateron ships them in a organized way.Shadovved, did you realize what you were getting yourself into when you signed up for this job?
Over 40k switches ordered with 3 weeks still to go!
Plus all these covers and possibly PBT keycaps too!
I hope that sorting and shipping all these isn't gonna kill you.
Yeap, I dropped the PBT caps due to low interest, possible because a GB just ended.
And no, I doubt it'll kill me to sort some switches, it's gonna take more than that :))
I might take a little longer to sort all packages if the volume is overwhelming, but I'll ship as I go.
Yea, I'm expecting bags of a few hundreds. But either way, an electronic balance helps loads :p
Post by: Asininity on Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:08:39
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:10:06
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:29:10
An update on the total quantity already ordered would be interesting.
6442
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:30:28
Post by: Vintage on Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:07:56
Too bad Gateron does not make an equivalent of MX Clears.
EDIT: I read Shadovved's post. Im in for sure! Gotta decide on 100 or 200 :D
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:09:43
Wait, so are the clear switch tops only compatible with Gateron switches? Or do they work for Cherry MX too?They work for both
Too bad Gateron does not make an equivalent of MX Clears.
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 21 February 2015, 21:59:12
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 22 February 2015, 08:38:44
Gentle reminder to those who filled up the IC form, you'll need to submit a form for the GB even if you submitted one for the IC.I submitted for the PBT caps and not the clear top. I'll wait for the dedicated GB.
Post by: mroverkill on Sun, 22 February 2015, 11:41:20
Gentle reminder to those who filled up the IC form, you'll need to submit a form for the GB even if you submitted one for the IC.I submitted for the PBT caps and not the clear top. I'll wait for the dedicated GB.
I'm in the same boat.
Post by: swill on Sun, 22 February 2015, 14:04:17
Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:15:13
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant. Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.
Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.
Post by: rpeterclark on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:28:33
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant. Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.
Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.
They share the same molds? I'm interested in learning more, do you have a reference?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:32:13
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant. Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.
Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.
They share the same molds? I'm interested in learning more, do you have a reference?
Scale economy is the reference, a plastic molding company does not pay for redundant tooling.
Post by: rpeterclark on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:38:45
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant. Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.
Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.
They share the same molds? I'm interested in learning more, do you have a reference?
Scale economy is the reference, a plastic molding company does not pay for redundant tooling.
OK. They have different logos on them, so I would have assumed different molds. My experience with the clear tops is that they definitely have a different fit, tighter and narrower clearance. I thought reading up on the mold sourcing might inform me about the different experience I'm having with them.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:44:19
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant. Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.
Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.
They share the same molds? I'm interested in learning more, do you have a reference?
Scale economy is the reference, a plastic molding company does not pay for redundant tooling.
OK. They have different logos on them, so I would have assumed different molds. My experience with the clear tops is that they definitely have a different fit, tighter and narrower clearance. I thought reading up on the mold sourcing might inform me about the different experience I'm having with them.
The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.
Post by: rpeterclark on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:54:18
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.
The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.
Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.
Post by: Geroximo on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:56:12
Post by: Cottonsox on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:22:01
Wait. .... why am I buying things that I don't need !? ... Darn you GH!
Buy you may need them soon!
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:11:56
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.
Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.
It is an educated guess, education learned over some years working in manufacturing.
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:24:51
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.
Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.
It is an educated guess, education learned over some years working in manufacturing.
The 0 wobble is for the clear switch tops.
Take a look at DrhubblePHD's review.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68955.0
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:26:57
I read in someone's review of the gateron switches that the switch top fits a little more snug on the bottom half that traditional cherry ones. Because of this I think it was mentioned that switch stickers are irrelevant. Is this also the case with these? This looks to be a different material that the stock gateron switches.
Edit: oh, one other question. What is the moq for the next price break?
The 0.16 is according to numbers I got from the IC, which is around 17k. We currently have around 9k. So there are still quite some people who have not ordered.
Prices might be slightly adjusted if we don't have at least 15k, that's why I'm asking those who have submitted in the IC for switch tops to submit their entry for the GB too :(
Post by: rpeterclark on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:38:47
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.
Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.
It is an educated guess, education learned over some years working in manufacturing.
The 0 wobble is for the clear switch tops.
Take a look at DrhubblePHD's review.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68955.0
Right, I've found that the clear tops have zero wobble as well (I previously commented in the thread you linked). I was just intrigued by Ideus's claim that both Gateron and Cherry share the same production molds despite the fit and tolerance differences I have experienced with the Gateron tops. Given his matter of fact tone in his response to swill, I thought he might have some further information.
I did encounter some minor issues with the fit of these tops, but nothing a little dremelling couldn't fix. Overall, I think they are really nice and am looking forward to hearing other's opinions one they receive them.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:59:34
They share the same molds, thus, their tolerances are the same.The different logo may be due to an insert in each cavity for part branding -a common practice in small parts injection-, or an entire different mold. The differences in tolerances may be related with part's contractions due to different material molded using the same tooling.
Sorry, I'm not following. Do you actually know is they use the same mold or have the same tolerances? It's fine to speculate, as long as we're clear that we're speculating.
It is an educated guess, education learned over some years working in manufacturing.
The 0 wobble is for the clear switch tops.
Take a look at DrhubblePHD's review.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68955.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68955.0)
Right, I've found that the clear tops have zero wobble as well (I previously commented in the thread you linked). I was just intrigued by Ideus's claim that both Gateron and Cherry share the same production molds despite the fit and tolerance differences I have experienced with the Gateron tops. Given his matter of fact tone in his response to swill, I thought he might have some further information.
I did encounter some minor issues with the fit of these tops, but nothing a little dremelling couldn't fix. Overall, I think they are really nice and am looking forward to hearing other's opinions one they receive them.
Just for the records: I did not mention Cherry ever. Gateron transparent tops may use the same molds than those translucent tops, the ones used in Gateron switches. Same factory, same molds for the same part made of different materials, transparent and translucent. Cherry factory is miles far from Gateron's.
Post by: superbia on Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:01:15
If so, do we need to pay the shipping twice?
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:08:48
Will you ship the tops combined with Gateron switches if we ordered them?
If so, do we need to pay the shipping twice?
I am doing the invoicing and fulfillment on both sides, I will adjust your shipping according to what you ordered on both sides in one invoice :thumb:
And yes, the fulfillment is together
Post by: superbia on Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:29:23
Will you ship the tops combined with Gateron switches if we ordered them?
If so, do we need to pay the shipping twice?
I am doing the invoicing and fulfillment on both sides, I will adjust your shipping according to what you ordered on both sides in one invoice :thumb:
And yes, the fulfillment is together
So its 10$ per 200 switches/tops?
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:09:52
Will you ship the tops combined with Gateron switches if we ordered them?
If so, do we need to pay the shipping twice?
I am doing the invoicing and fulfillment on both sides, I will adjust your shipping according to what you ordered on both sides in one invoice :thumb:
And yes, the fulfillment is together
So its 10$ per 200 switches/tops?
Around there yes, 200 tops, but probably not 200 switches, since switches weigh more.
Post by: awhitedev on Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:06:37
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 25 February 2015, 05:28:55
Has the MOQ been reached for this GB?
We have reached the MOQ, but not yet for the price for the GB, because the price in the GB is taken from numbers from the IC.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:16:06
Has the MOQ been reached for this GB?
We have reached the MOQ, but not yet for the price for the GB, because the price in the GB is taken from numbers from the IC.
To know the numbers would be very good for the people that joined.
Post by: aaronz8 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 14:15:43
Post by: Dodgy on Wed, 25 February 2015, 22:54:12
Post by: ideus on Wed, 25 February 2015, 22:59:14
Post by: Willyc277 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:06:56
Now I just need stickers and springs and lube and a pcb and a case
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:33:49
In for 140 to go with 70 blacks and 70 blues in the switch gb :thumb:
Now I just need stickers and springs and lube and a pcb and a case
You can skip the stickers, someone mentioned that the switch top covers aren't as loose as cherry switches.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 26 February 2015, 02:05:58
In for 140 to go with 70 blacks and 70 blues in the switch gb :thumb:
Now I just need stickers and springs and lube and a pcb and a case
You can skip the stickers, someone mentioned that the switch top covers aren't as loose as cherry switches.
but they're so purty~~~~~
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:27:58
Post by: Sent on Thu, 26 February 2015, 17:22:15
Post by: pexon on Thu, 26 February 2015, 17:25:17
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 26 February 2015, 17:43:24
Has the MOQ been reached for this GB?
We have reached the MOQ, but not yet for the price for the GB, because the price in the GB is taken from numbers from the IC.
Any idea how close we are to reaching the price for the GB? Also, if it doesn't reach that price, what price would it be? Or, will Gateron not consider an order less than a certain number of units.
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 18:42:16
In for 140 to go with 70 blacks and 70 blues in the switch gb :thumb:
Now I just need stickers and springs and lube and a pcb and a case
You can skip the stickers, someone mentioned that the switch top covers aren't as loose as cherry switches.
In for 140 to go with 70 blacks and 70 blues in the switch gb :thumb:
Now I just need stickers and springs and lube and a pcb and a case
You can skip the stickers, someone mentioned that the switch top covers aren't as loose as cherry switches.
but they're so purty~~~~~
^^^
Post by: vindaon on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:47:06
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 28 February 2015, 19:02:10
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 19:06:01
unless I'm missing something here. Hwood has the entire switch for the same price?Well, the housings of stock gaterons are a milky clear/white, these are completely clear and made out of a somewhat different material.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 February 2015, 19:06:58
unless I'm missing something here. Hwood has the entire switch for the same price?
Only black and clear switches are at sixteen cents a piece now. However the plastic of these tops is transparent, while the plastic of the switches is translucent. But of course, they look similar, and if you are looking for full switches the other GB is for you. However, if you need some extra tops to install on switches you already have, Cherry included, to give them a different look this may interest you. Of course you may buy full switches to swap their tops to other switches, but you will have switch internals and bottoms left over, so at certain point you will need some tops for them.
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 28 February 2015, 19:11:39
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 19:16:20
makes more sense. Ty for the info haha. Just ordered some vintage blacks, so some clear tops might be nice, gotta open em up to switch the springs anyway right. The tops wouldn't affect the smoothness of the vintage blacks right?well, it would depend, but knowing the smoothness of the plastic in gateron switches, I'm sure these will be the same or similar smoothness
Post by: Karura on Mon, 02 March 2015, 03:46:06
Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 04:26:44
So the general consensus, why do people like these better than the abostudio ones?
Consensus is one thing we are not very good at GH. Particularly, when most people have not tried Gateron switches yet. However, many have realized the current GB on Gaterons is a good chance to do it, resulting in more than 50,000 units already ordered; you can join, or let it pass. But, if you want to compare Gaterons with other switches there are a few other threads on that, already. If not, you could open a thread on it; this one is to inform about Cover's GB terms and conditions and to discuss them, so we try to keep it on topic.
Post by: byker on Mon, 02 March 2015, 09:44:58
So the general consensus, why do people like these better than the abostudio ones?
Consensus is one thing we are not very good at GH. Particularly, when most people have not tried Gateron switches yet. However, many have realized the current GB on Gaterons is a good chance to do it, resulting in more than 50,000 units already ordered; you can join, or let it pass. But, if you want to compare Gaterons with other switches there are a few other threads on that, already. If not, you could open a thread on it; this one is to inform about Cover's GB terms and conditions and to discuss them, so we try to keep it on topic.
This answer seems really off-topic.
To answer your question Karura, these ones are made of a better plastic that doesn't crack easily, so the switch covers are much stronger. There have also been reports that they fit the switch tighter, resulting in less side-to-side contact and thus stickers are not required.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 10:08:57
So the general consensus, why do people like these better than the abostudio ones?
Consensus is one thing we are not very good at GH. Particularly, when most people have not tried Gateron switches yet. However, many have realized the current GB on Gaterons is a good chance to do it, resulting in more than 50,000 units already ordered; you can join, or let it pass. But, if you want to compare Gaterons with other switches there are a few other threads on that, already. If not, you could open a thread on it; this one is to inform about Cover's GB terms and conditions and to discuss them, so we try to keep it on topic.
This answer seems really off-topic.
To answer your question Karura, these ones are made of a better plastic that doesn't crack easily, so the switch covers are much stronger. There have also been reports that they fit the switch tighter, resulting in less side-to-side contact and thus stickers are not required.
I thought in switches, instead of tops.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 March 2015, 07:19:13
Please make your final orders/edits.
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 03 March 2015, 07:33:52
I will begin invoicing this Friday, together with the Gateron switch GB.
Please make your final orders/edits.
Shadovved do you still need people to help you reach MOQ?
I need zero clear covers, but if you need someone to buy up to 1000 to meet MOQ I will consider helping as a Buyer/Seller of Last Resort.
Also a reminder, I want to get that 1000 blank bag and pay you in cash.
Final grouse: I don’t like it when so many people pop up right after a GB is finished, and ask to buy. Am starting to figure that some people didn’t forget; they deliberately forgot, so that they don’t have to risk any cash if GB fails and organizer runs off. Maybe this whole thing about BSLR selling stuff to people at GB price is not such a good idea.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 03 March 2015, 07:37:03
I will begin invoicing this Friday, together with the Gateron switch GB.
Please make your final orders/edits.
Shadovved do you still need people to help you reach MOQ?
I need zero clear covers, but if you need someone to buy up to 1000 to meet MOQ I will consider helping as a Buyer/Seller of Last Resort.
Also a reminder, I want to get that 1000 blank bag and pay you in cash.
Final grouse: I don�t like it when so many people pop up right after a GB is finished, and ask to buy. Am starting to figure that some people didn�t forget; they deliberately forgot, so that they don�t have to risk any cash if GB fails and organizer runs off. Maybe this whole thing about BSLR selling stuff to people at GB price is not such a good idea.
We have it the qty required for $0.16 per already YAY! I will probably round off the order to a nice number when the GB ends so it's easier for them too, so I'll definitely have a tiny bit of extras, just in case anything goes wrong.
And PM me regarding your PBT thingy again.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 March 2015, 07:41:32
I will begin invoicing this Friday, together with the Gateron switch GB.
Please make your final orders/edits.
Take my money, and thank you again for running this GB. 8)
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:32:33
We have it the qty required for $0.16 per already YAY! I will probably round off the order to a nice number when the GB ends so it's easier for them too, so I'll definitely have a tiny bit of extras, just in case anything goes wrong.
And PM me regarding your PBT thingy again.
Haven't we discussed this before like 10 times? OK, I'm PMing AND posting this again to remind you about PBT 1000 bag...
Go ahead and buy extras to round up; if you have enough when I go over and collect I'll buy 100 or whatever number you find convenient. All that talk is making me curious and I don't mind buying some just to play play.
Not going to turn this into a formal order so it gives you the freedom not to sell to me if you don't have extras. MY personal view is that most GBs can buy extra because always these jokers pop out of the woodwork and ask to buy after they see that GB organizer hasn't run away with the money.
Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 03 March 2015, 18:56:13
1) Is it possible to check if I've placed an order for this? I sort of remember doing it but maybe I'm wrong and the invoice is only for the switches.
2) If I haven't ordered the switch tops, is it possible to combine shipping even after I've paid the invoice for the switches?
3) Should I just go ahead and pay the current invoice I have now?
Thanks
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 18:57:25
So I've received an invoice saying GClears, I'm thinking those are for the clear switches. I'm not sure if I've placed an order for this too.that's for the switch buy, yes
Post by: infiniti on Wed, 04 March 2015, 05:57:45
Post by: koalapear on Wed, 04 March 2015, 15:15:15
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:03:47
Edit: Thank you for the quick answer. :thumb:
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:16:11
Sent a last minute change request. I hope it may get through.
Edit: Thank you for the quick answer. :thumb:
Yeap people, PM me for anything, I can change whatever invoice or thing before you pay for it.
I wont be monitoring the thread and invoicing at the same time :))
Post by: slickmamba on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:44:38
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 05 March 2015, 20:32:46
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 March 2015, 21:25:34
Responded to all the PMs
You are the man, thank you very much for the hard work.
Post by: Cottonsox on Fri, 06 March 2015, 19:01:14
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 06 March 2015, 19:03:30
Just got my invoice. Shipping seems to be off. Have you cross referenced the gatorade switches GB aswell?
Shipping is $8 per 100 pcs. PM me your invoice number
Post by: Cottonsox on Fri, 06 March 2015, 19:05:27
Just got my invoice. Shipping seems to be off. Have you cross referenced the gatorade switches GB aswell?
Shipping is $8 per 100 pcs. PM me your invoice number
Just really confused, Considering i was invoiced less shipping per 300 switches, VS 250 switch tops and i assumed they were to be combined to save money, which is half the drawcard of these two GB being run together.
Post by: Ouro on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:06:15
Post by: slickmamba on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:17:44
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 06 March 2015, 22:00:02
(https://bkhemphill.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/tumblr_m98qx8toso1rddqy5o1_500.gif)
Post by: pexon on Sat, 07 March 2015, 17:08:58
Post by: Ouro on Mon, 09 March 2015, 13:04:26
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 09 March 2015, 19:54:21
Post by: gravenshard on Wed, 11 March 2015, 12:04:53
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:21:45
I received the invoice, I'll be paying by tomorrow. Thanks! =D
Post by: Zwi on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:45:49
Post by: hjc1710 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:48:54
Order placed for 100 switch tops. Hyped to build my RS84!
Post by: Vintage on Thu, 12 March 2015, 20:52:57
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 22:53:38
Finally ordered :)
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 13 March 2015, 00:28:51
Thanks!
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 20 March 2015, 01:15:46
Post by: slickmamba on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:15:23
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 21 March 2015, 04:45:19
Any updates or time-line for this now? Ty!
It has been ordered together with the Gateron Switch GB :thumb:
I'll do my updates all on the other thread, because the items are together
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 31 March 2015, 08:21:03
Post by: Jason_IRL on Tue, 31 March 2015, 08:45:18
can someone post a link to the "other thread"? sorry I have been away a while and am kinda lost.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.0
Post by: infiniti on Thu, 16 April 2015, 07:43:39
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 16 April 2015, 07:56:06
GATERON HAS LANDED!My biggest question... does it rattle when you shake it?
(Attachment Link)
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 16 April 2015, 12:26:07
50000 at least?
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 16 April 2015, 12:33:55
Post by: mashby on Thu, 16 April 2015, 13:02:57
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 16 April 2015, 13:22:41
Goodness me, how many switches was that?
50000 at least?
More like 115K
Not sure how many clear tops.
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 16 April 2015, 13:50:50
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 16 April 2015, 17:18:37
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 17 April 2015, 07:25:36
One man show :thumb: plus electronic balance.
Wait a moment did the keycaps come also? I could meet up this weekend and relieve you of that burden (and you could relieve me of some of my discretionary funds)
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 17 April 2015, 07:39:17
One man show :thumb: plus electronic balance.
Wait a moment did the keycaps come also? I could meet up this weekend and relieve you of that burden (and you could relieve me of some of my discretionary funds)
Come down lor. It's not really huge, and I'll not open it.
But I might be out this weekend.
Post by: Ouro on Fri, 17 April 2015, 08:25:59
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 17 April 2015, 20:17:31
Is there any chance I could up my order of covers from 100 to 2-300?
PM me your PayPal email
Post by: P Seven on Fri, 17 April 2015, 20:19:05
Post by: JonasDK on Sat, 25 April 2015, 14:04:59
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 25 April 2015, 15:36:35
Are there any switch tops left?
Probably abit. Will update again when GB finishes fulfillment
Post by: Orgell_Evaan on Tue, 28 April 2015, 13:16:51
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 28 April 2015, 13:48:39
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 29 April 2015, 03:36:02
im missed it too. looking for some second-hand sales now..
I have extras, just PM me
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 29 April 2015, 03:37:45
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 01 May 2015, 19:51:40
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 02 May 2015, 00:46:01
Will switch top only orders go out after the gateron + switch top orders?
They have already gone out. PM me if you didnt receive a tracking email, but please check your junk/spam first
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 02 May 2015, 14:56:09
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 02 May 2015, 16:32:15
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
Left to right: AboStudio (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46446.0) Clear tops (R2), Gateron clear switch covers, Standard Gateron tops
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 02 May 2015, 16:43:50
I believe this needs to be here:
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
Left to right: Arbolab Studio Clear tops (R2), Gateron clear switch covers, Standard Gateron tops
I was actually just wondering what switch stickers would look like with clear vs stock gateron tops. Do you have s pic of what they look like from the side?
Post by: adamski07 on Sun, 03 May 2015, 16:50:25
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 03 May 2015, 17:20:48
It's hard to shoot from the side but I will try tomorrow. I was planning to shoot some pics to compare the spread of illiumination with LEDs.I believe this needs to be here:I was actually just wondering what switch stickers would look like with clear vs stock gateron tops. Do you have s pic of what they look like from the side?
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
Left to right: Arbolab Studio Clear tops (R2), Gateron clear switch covers, Standard Gateron tops
Best I have right now is this:
(http://i.imgur.com/GaT2hHyl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/GaT2hHy)
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 11 May 2015, 08:31:35
Post by: Willyc277 on Mon, 11 May 2015, 09:40:00
(http://i.imgur.com/vqt8jyU.jpg)
Post by: theanyday on Mon, 11 May 2015, 10:57:13
I'm trying to pick up 200 clear tops.
Post by: LXXXIX on Mon, 11 May 2015, 11:23:00
Post by: Bucky on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:04:05
Post by: hjc1710 on Mon, 11 May 2015, 22:01:26
Post by: adamski07 on Tue, 12 May 2015, 00:25:12
(http://i.imgur.com/3faiUgO.jpg)
build log: http://imgur.com/a/zdl85
Post by: Ouro on Wed, 13 May 2015, 10:23:31
Patiently waiting for my clear tops. :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3faiUgO.jpg)
build log: http://imgur.com/a/zdl85
Me too. I got my gold stickers coming in. Gonna throw them on my MX Clear switches :P
Post by: adamski07 on Wed, 13 May 2015, 22:47:36
Patiently waiting for my clear tops. :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3faiUgO.jpg)
build log: http://imgur.com/a/zdl85
Me too. I got my gold stickers coming in. Gonna throw them on my MX Clear switches :P
Cool please post some pics once you get yours done.
Here's a photo of clear switches with abostudio clear tops and white stickers.
(http://i.imgur.com/2Iit2Mx.jpg)
I decided to buy few so I can compare with the gaterons.
Post by: keyit on Thu, 14 May 2015, 00:36:59
Post by: micr0n on Sat, 16 May 2015, 21:37:46
Post by: unipsykal on Sun, 17 May 2015, 00:08:24
Post by: Orgell_Evaan on Mon, 18 May 2015, 22:44:58
(http://i.imgur.com/58GknBG.jpg)
The left side is stock, the right side dipped once and let dry for 30 minutes. You could do two dips, giving at least four hours cure time (depending on temp and humidity) if you need to. I haven't noticed any catching or binding of the plunger; if you're concerned, a quick swipe around the plunger opening with a cotton or foam swab dipped in isopropyl alcohol will strip the coating. Best of all, it's cheap - it sells for $6/Qt in the US, which is more than enough for thousands of switch covers (or plastic models; I've used less than 10% of a bottle I bought in 2003), but if you know anyone who regularly builds plastic models, odds are they already have some you could
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 19 May 2015, 18:28:26
Post by: micr0n on Thu, 21 May 2015, 13:36:19
Bummed out that your Gateron clear caps aren't as, well, clear as abostudio caps? There's an inexpensive fix from the Plastic Modeling world. Oldpharts know it as 'Future'; a few years back it was rebranded as 'Pledge Floor Care with Future Shine'. What it is, is a liquid acrylic; dipping clear plastic parts in it (or airbrushing, or even handbrushing; the stuff self-levels) fills in tiny pits, scratches, and imperfections. The end result?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/58GknBG.jpg)
The left side is stock, the right side dipped once and let dry for 30 minutes. You could do two dips, giving at least four hours cure time (depending on temp and humidity) if you need to. I haven't noticed any catching or binding of the plunger; if you're concerned, a quick swipe around the plunger opening with a cotton or foam swab dipped in isopropyl alcohol will strip the coating. Best of all, it's cheap - it sells for $6/Qt in the US, which is more than enough for thousands of switch covers (or plastic models; I've used less than 10% of a bottle I bought in 2003), but if you know anyone who regularly builds plastic models, odds are they already have some you couldmooch off of themborrow.
Is this the same stuff you use for floor cleaners?
Post by: JonasDK on Thu, 21 May 2015, 13:49:48
Bummed out that your Gateron clear caps aren't as, well, clear as abostudio caps? There's an inexpensive fix from the Plastic Modeling world. Oldpharts know it as 'Future'; a few years back it was rebranded as 'Pledge Floor Care with Future Shine'. What it is, is a liquid acrylic; dipping clear plastic parts in it (or airbrushing, or even handbrushing; the stuff self-levels) fills in tiny pits, scratches, and imperfections. The end result?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/58GknBG.jpg)
The left side is stock, the right side dipped once and let dry for 30 minutes. You could do two dips, giving at least four hours cure time (depending on temp and humidity) if you need to. I haven't noticed any catching or binding of the plunger; if you're concerned, a quick swipe around the plunger opening with a cotton or foam swab dipped in isopropyl alcohol will strip the coating. Best of all, it's cheap - it sells for $6/Qt in the US, which is more than enough for thousands of switch covers (or plastic models; I've used less than 10% of a bottle I bought in 2003), but if you know anyone who regularly builds plastic models, odds are they already have some you couldmooch off of themborrow.
Is this the same stuff you use for floor cleaners?
According to this site (http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html), it is.
Post by: Nguruthos7 on Sat, 23 May 2015, 11:28:06
Bummed out that your Gateron clear caps aren't as, well, clear as abostudio caps? There's an inexpensive fix from the Plastic Modeling world. Oldpharts know it as 'Future'; a few years back it was rebranded as 'Pledge Floor Care with Future Shine'. What it is, is a liquid acrylic; dipping clear plastic parts in it (or airbrushing, or even handbrushing; the stuff self-levels) fills in tiny pits, scratches, and imperfections. The end result?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/58GknBG.jpg)
The left side is stock, the right side dipped once and let dry for 30 minutes. You could do two dips, giving at least four hours cure time (depending on temp and humidity) if you need to. I haven't noticed any catching or binding of the plunger; if you're concerned, a quick swipe around the plunger opening with a cotton or foam swab dipped in isopropyl alcohol will strip the coating. Best of all, it's cheap - it sells for $6/Qt in the US, which is more than enough for thousands of switch covers (or plastic models; I've used less than 10% of a bottle I bought in 2003), but if you know anyone who regularly builds plastic models, odds are they already have some you couldmooch off of themborrow.
Nice find, Orgell_Evaan! I will have to pick some up at Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pledge-Floor-Care-27-fl-oz/15136693) and give it a try.
Post by: MarkRobbo on Sat, 23 May 2015, 11:32:05
Bummed out that your Gateron clear caps aren't as, well, clear as abostudio caps? There's an inexpensive fix from the Plastic Modeling world. Oldpharts know it as 'Future'; a few years back it was rebranded as 'Pledge Floor Care with Future Shine'. What it is, is a liquid acrylic; dipping clear plastic parts in it (or airbrushing, or even handbrushing; the stuff self-levels) fills in tiny pits, scratches, and imperfections. The end result?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/58GknBG.jpg)
The left side is stock, the right side dipped once and let dry for 30 minutes. You could do two dips, giving at least four hours cure time (depending on temp and humidity) if you need to. I haven't noticed any catching or binding of the plunger; if you're concerned, a quick swipe around the plunger opening with a cotton or foam swab dipped in isopropyl alcohol will strip the coating. Best of all, it's cheap - it sells for $6/Qt in the US, which is more than enough for thousands of switch covers (or plastic models; I've used less than 10% of a bottle I bought in 2003), but if you know anyone who regularly builds plastic models, odds are they already have some you couldmooch off of themborrow.
Nice find, Orgell_Evaan! I will have to pick some up at Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pledge-Floor-Care-27-fl-oz/15136693) and give it a try.
Pretty sure that isn't what you want! You want it to say 'With future shine', this logo:
(https://coloradoleen.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/go_part2_002.jpg)
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 23 May 2015, 12:29:31
Pretty sure that isn't what you want! You want it to say 'With future shine', this logo:Show Image(https://coloradoleen.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/go_part2_002.jpg)
According to this site (http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html), it is.It is the same thing.
Post by: MarkRobbo on Sat, 23 May 2015, 13:36:44
Pretty sure that isn't what you want! You want it to say 'With future shine', this logo:Show Image(https://coloradoleen.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/go_part2_002.jpg)According to this site (http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html), it is.It is the same thing.
Ah, they changed the label yet again. They enjoy rebranding this a lot it seems
Post by: Nguruthos7 on Sat, 23 May 2015, 17:14:19
Post by: unipsykal on Mon, 25 May 2015, 06:20:07
Bummed out that your Gateron clear caps aren't as, well, clear as abostudio caps? There's an inexpensive fix from the Plastic Modeling world. Oldpharts know it as 'Future'; a few years back it was rebranded as 'Pledge Floor Care with Future Shine'. What it is, is a liquid acrylic; dipping clear plastic parts in it (or airbrushing, or even handbrushing; the stuff self-levels) fills in tiny pits, scratches, and imperfections. The end result?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/58GknBG.jpg)
The left side is stock, the right side dipped once and let dry for 30 minutes. You could do two dips, giving at least four hours cure time (depending on temp and humidity) if you need to. I haven't noticed any catching or binding of the plunger; if you're concerned, a quick swipe around the plunger opening with a cotton or foam swab dipped in isopropyl alcohol will strip the coating. Best of all, it's cheap - it sells for $6/Qt in the US, which is more than enough for thousands of switch covers (or plastic models; I've used less than 10% of a bottle I bought in 2003), but if you know anyone who regularly builds plastic models, odds are they already have some you couldmooch off of themborrow.
That quite the improvement, definitely gonna try it out - thanks!
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 31 May 2015, 00:40:04
Post by: FreeChemicals on Sun, 31 May 2015, 03:13:42
Still got some available. Better PM me before it runs out.
PM sent!
More
(http://i.imgur.com/Sob7jVfl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Sob7jVf)
Sorry, these are abostudio instead of Gateron.
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 31 May 2015, 09:12:59
These are gateron switch tops, not abostudioStill got some available. Better PM me before it runs out.
PM sent!
(http://i.imgur.com/Sob7jVfl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Sob7jVf)
I really like these clear tops. Besides looking good, its easier to install 2x3x4 LEDs w/ SIP sockets. I used to cut the LEDs just under the notches, so they wouldn't sit loose. This way, installing the LEDs was a PITA! With these abostudio tops, its possible to cut the LEDs above the notches without having it move when seated.
Post by: JonasDK on Sun, 31 May 2015, 09:15:42
I think you made a typo ;DThese areStill got some available. Better PM me before it runs out.
PM sent!
(http://i.imgur.com/Sob7jVfl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Sob7jVf)
I really like these clear tops. Besides looking good, its easier to install 2x3x4 LEDs w/ SIP sockets. I used to cut the LEDs just under the notches, so they wouldn't sit loose. This way, installing the LEDs was a PITA! With these abostudio tops, its possible to cut the LEDs above the notches without having it move when seated.gateronabostudio switch tops, notabostudiogateron
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 31 May 2015, 09:21:33
No I didn't, shadovved ran a GB for Gateron switch tops, not abostudio, unless Freechemicals is posting about abostudio switch tops in the gateron switch tops threadI think you made a typo ;DThese areStill got some available. Better PM me before it runs out.
PM sent!
(http://i.imgur.com/Sob7jVfl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Sob7jVf)
I really like these clear tops. Besides looking good, its easier to install 2x3x4 LEDs w/ SIP sockets. I used to cut the LEDs just under the notches, so they wouldn't sit loose. This way, installing the LEDs was a PITA! With these abostudio tops, its possible to cut the LEDs above the notches without having it move when seated.gateronabostudio switch tops, notabostudiogateron
Post by: FreeChemicals on Sun, 31 May 2015, 09:56:40
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 31 May 2015, 10:01:18
Oh.. I see, then I need some more.. My bad. I wonder how they will compare to the abostudio tops, then.They aren't as crystal clear as abostudio, but that can be fixed with the Pledge Future Shine. These are a lot better, as they are more flexible and fit better. The abostudio tops are more rigid and are prone to breaking a lot easier.
Post by: theanyday on Sun, 31 May 2015, 14:59:29
Still got some available. Better PM me before it runs out.
Received mine yesterday. Thank you!
Post by: unipsykal on Tue, 02 June 2015, 00:19:46
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 02 June 2015, 02:01:56
Post by: micr0n on Wed, 03 June 2015, 23:19:23
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 07 June 2015, 08:28:59
Post by: Bull1919 on Sun, 07 June 2015, 11:11:01
Still have some available.
How many? I would like 100
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 07 June 2015, 23:17:32
Still have some available.
How many? I would like 100
More than enough. PM me.
Post by: Invaderevan on Sun, 07 June 2015, 23:18:07
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 08 June 2015, 00:27:05
Post by: Mooksie on Thu, 11 June 2015, 15:46:07
Post by: pepsi on Thu, 11 June 2015, 23:07:44
Post by: JonasDK on Tue, 16 June 2015, 06:19:10
(http://i.imgur.com/HzQTwL3.jpg)
Thanks Shadovved :thumb: !
Post by: flabbergast on Tue, 16 June 2015, 06:21:02
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 19 June 2015, 18:50:04
I haven't been the best in making this a smooth transaction. I made a couple modifications to my order and then didn't pay for the second shipment of covers right away. :-[ You beared with me the whole time though. Keep up the good work and I wish you the best with all the rest of the GB's that you're a part of :D
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 20 June 2015, 03:16:50
Post by: Blackhawk on Sat, 20 June 2015, 04:45:39
Post by: midlan on Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:44:49
Post by: LunarisDream on Mon, 22 June 2015, 22:33:23
Is the tops compatible with Cherry MX? If so, has someone 110 of them?They are fully compatible w/ Cherry MX.
Source: my MX clears.
Post by: dark_rug on Tue, 23 June 2015, 12:46:11
Post by: midlan on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:25:43
They are fully compatible w/ Cherry MX.
Source: my MX clears.
Thanks for your confirmation.
Any suggestion where to buy them now? Will be there another group buy?
Post by: byker on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:32:44
They are fully compatible w/ Cherry MX.
Source: my MX clears.
Thanks for your confirmation.
Any suggestion where to buy them now? Will be there another group buy?
Zealpc.net has them in stock and he does overnight shipping! :)
Post by: midlan on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:45:10
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:49:11
Zealpc.net offers one for $0.5 It is quite much since it's only top, not whole switch.
It is the whole switch....
Post by: Invaderevan on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:50:01
Zealpc.net offers one for $0.5 It is quite much since it's only top, not whole switch.
Thats the standard price for clear switch tops outside of GBs
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:57:09
I made some pics a few pages back:They are fully compatible w/ Cherry MX.Thanks for your confirmation.
Source: my MX clears.
Any suggestion where to buy them now? Will be there another group buy?
I believe this needs to be here:
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
Left to right: AboStudio (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46446.0) Clear tops (R2), Gateron clear switch covers, Standard Gateron tops
And Orgell_Evaan (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68356.msg1750286#msg1750286) figured out a way to make them almost as clear as the old arbostudio ones.
Post by: midlan on Tue, 23 June 2015, 17:25:48
It is the whole switch....I don't think so, since it is offered as "Gateron Clear Switch Tops".
Thats the standard price for clear switch tops outside of GBsIf it is really only the top, the price is high since whole cherry MX switches costs the same (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=653).
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 23 June 2015, 18:05:40
Same for Techkeys (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/clear-mx-switch-cover). It is the price we pay for being late to a groupbuy.It is the whole switch....I don't think so, since it is offered as "Gateron Clear Switch Tops".Thats the standard price for clear switch tops outside of GBsIf it is really only the top, the price is high since whole cherry MX switches costs the same (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=653).
And you are comparing separate switch covers with bulk switches. Separate Cherry switches cost $1.50 (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts/cherry-mx-red-keyswitch-mx1a-l1nn-linear.html).
Post by: midlan on Wed, 24 June 2015, 04:37:11
And you are comparing separate switch covers with bulk switches. Separate Cherry switches cost $1.50 (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts/cherry-mx-red-keyswitch-mx1a-l1nn-linear.html).I'm interested in 110 pack and there is not quantity discount for tops as is for switches. Who buys only one top?
Post by: pepsi on Thu, 02 July 2015, 11:27:25
Post by: Bucky on Tue, 07 July 2015, 10:56:52
Post by: Geroximo on Fri, 06 November 2015, 08:38:55
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 06 November 2015, 08:42:43
Ehm ... I ordered and payed in february and lost track of this hole buy. Now I'm wondering: Will I ever receive my clear tops?
Oh maaaan. This sucks. I PMed you, see if we can sort something out.....
Post by: twk on Sun, 14 February 2016, 14:16:11
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 16 February 2016, 05:58:46
Any plans on another GB for clear switch tops?
Hopefully in the near future?
Post by: yomammary on Tue, 16 February 2016, 07:27:29
Great!Any plans on another GB for clear switch tops?
Hopefully in the near future?
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 16 February 2016, 07:34:37
yeeeeeeeboisssAny plans on another GB for clear switch tops?
Hopefully in the near future?
I'll wait for this one!
Post by: twk on Sat, 20 February 2016, 01:22:28
Sounds good!Any plans on another GB for clear switch tops?
Hopefully in the near future?