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I really like this. It's the first set I've seen in a while that made me go oooooohhhh when I saw it.Hmm I think a mono color theme for the F-row like what we have right now would look a lot cleaner. All in for the classic, muted look.
Not sure if it'd look decent or not, but I'm curious to see what the F keys might look like if you did red, yellow, teal legends on the 3 sets of F keys respectively to worth the theme more. Might look like ****...just a thought though.
I really like this. It's the first set I've seen in a while that made me go oooooohhhh when I saw it.
Not sure if it'd look decent or not, but I'm curious to see what the F keys might look like if you did red, yellow, teal legends on the 3 sets of F keys respectively to worth the theme more. Might look like ****...just a thought though.
I really like this. It's the first set I've seen in a while that made me go oooooohhhh when I saw it.
Not sure if it'd look decent or not, but I'm curious to see what the F keys might look like if you did red, yellow, teal legends on the 3 sets of F keys respectively to worth the theme more. Might look like ****...just a thought though.
The original mockup had red and yellow F rows, but it caused too many extra keys to be included in the Midnight kit to be viable. Changing them out to all teal was the only way i could get that kit down enough. Tradeoffs i guess. :/
I like it.100% get samples and evaluate them in different lighting and backgrounds.
I would just suggest to match pantone color to RAL. A few recent GMK sets have had better luck matching RAL color than pantone and/or get samples.
I like it.100% get samples and evaluate them in different lighting and backgrounds.
I would just suggest to match pantone color to RAL. A few recent GMK sets have had better luck matching RAL color than pantone and/or get samples.
Do you think you will be able/willing to use the new R0/R5 molds from GMK Carbon R2?
That's disappointing. R0 is pretty nice
Do you think you will be able/willing to use the new R0/R5 molds from GMK Carbon R2?
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I'd love to see a render with the midnight mods
Nice looking set! I'd almost want this in SA (or ABS MT3) over Cherry/GMK.same. But the set is dope regardless!
Any chance of an icon mods kit? I agree, I think it would look really good with this set.
Any chance of an icon mods kit? I agree, I think it would look really good with this set.
I've gotten multiple questions on icon mods, so i figured it best to share my thoughts on them. Because this set uses two colors on the mods, and the alphas are quite vibrant, I think icon mods would push the set overall into feeling a bit too busy and chaotic. While I do enjoy icon mods on other sets, I think the using of text mods is what adds a bit of counterbalance visually.
That being said, the kits are still being worked on and I've gotten a lot of great feedback in the survey! Thank you SO much everyone that has filled it out. One of the most resounding pieces is the addition of more novelties, and broken into a separate kit. Seeing as the theme of the novelties is around signage, I see a lot of similarities between that and the icons typically used in keysets. In working towards a full novelties kit, I am going to explore options around making a few "novelty icon modifiers" for some of the most used keys.
I've already done the work on matching to Pantone. It matters.
Interesting, but am concern with the colours. Would need more time and verification on the sampling phase to ensure an incident like violet tendencies won't happen again.
Any chance of an icon mods kit? I agree, I think it would look really good with this set.
I've gotten multiple questions on icon mods, so i figured it best to share my thoughts on them. Because this set uses two colors on the mods, and the alphas are quite vibrant, I think icon mods would push the set overall into feeling a bit too busy and chaotic. While I do enjoy icon mods on other sets, I think the using of text mods is what adds a bit of counterbalance visually.
That being said, the kits are still being worked on and I've gotten a lot of great feedback in the survey! Thank you SO much everyone that has filled it out. One of the most resounding pieces is the addition of more novelties, and broken into a separate kit. Seeing as the theme of the novelties is around signage, I see a lot of similarities between that and the icons typically used in keysets. In working towards a full novelties kit, I am going to explore options around making a few "novelty icon modifiers" for some of the most used keys.
Not sure if this has been mentioned before or not, but the colors look very similar to a set that won MD's contest. (I can't recall the name)
Not sure if this has been mentioned before or not, but the colors look very similar to a set that won MD's contest. (I can't recall the name)Nah, that's way closer to dsa grooves colors than to these, Imo. Completely different sets.
That deskmat :thumb:
I know I may in minority here, but any chance of a separate alpha kits with English + Japanese sublegends. Only because colors are so vivid here and I think it will look really cool.Just to make it funkier, use 179C color for legend.
What color is the base color? Dark blue? The render looks like a black.
It'll be hard to match that with most boards :c
What color is the base color? Dark blue? The render looks like a black.
It'll be hard to match that with most boards :c
base color is a blue-black. i'll be posting a chip comparison soon, but it's pretty dark. Should still match nicely with black/gray/silver boards, as well as blue boards.
What color is the base color? Dark blue? The render looks like a black.
It'll be hard to match that with most boards :c
base color is a blue-black. i'll be posting a chip comparison soon, but it's pretty dark. Should still match nicely with black/gray/silver boards, as well as blue boards.
thanks! i’d love to see some renders
I'd love to see a render with the midnight modsI second this
Are you considering zF as a vendor?
I'd love to see a render with the midnight modsI second this
Is the orange color of the R4 End key intentional?
The colors look great!
Will the split spacebars be convex? Judging from Calm Depths, GMK has R4C for 2, 2.25 and 2.75u.
Gorgeous. Be sure to post on Keebtalk.
Gorgeous. Be sure to post on Keebtalk.
Pantone chip for the base color from the album photos seems REALLY dark (very close to black).Looks like he put them in the original post! They're already there.
With frequent updates and comparisons of color samples with the pantone chips in different lught conditions like you plan to do, I’m sure this set would not have a problem hitting MOQ!
Pantone chip for the base color from the album photos seems REALLY dark (very close to black).Looks like he put them in the original post! They're already there.
With frequent updates and comparisons of color samples with the pantone chips in different lught conditions like you plan to do, I’m sure this set would not have a problem hitting MOQ!
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Pantone chip for the base color from the album photos seems REALLY dark (very close to black).
Pantone chip for the base color from the album photos seems REALLY dark (very close to black).
I agree with you, the Pantone reference seems way darker than the renders. I’m not sure that’s the best choice.
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Pantone chip for the base color from the album photos seems REALLY dark (very close to black).
I agree with you, the Pantone reference seems way darker than the renders. I’m not sure that’s the best choice.
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+1
will be there EU proxy?
Agreed that base color might as well be black, it needs to be a lighter to show color difference.
This new pictures definitely gives a better perspective on the Pantone choice and I think should be added to the first post. However, I still have concerns that current dark Pantone applied to abs plastic would not achieve your intended result as seen in the full board renders. Most people are not going to combine this set with GMK originative or any other black keyset to accent and show the color difference.Agreed that base color might as well be black, it needs to be a lighter to show color difference.
The base color is intended to be dark, but will definitely not be black. The following photo is of the same two chips under warm 60w lamplight. For color reference they are on top of a US Passport.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/311Ii3j.jpg)
When I wrote might as well be black, I meant for anyone looking at a board with these caps will likely see it as black with colored accents
Any eta on more renders?
Those deskmats are bonkers. I'm in for a stack!It looks great as a desktop background too!
Those deskmats are bonkers. I'm in for a stack!It looks great as a desktop background too!
Perhaps change the ISO enter on the base kit to the same teal as the ANSI? Especially since it's dark on the midnight kit.
With that change and depending on bank balance I'm in
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Perhaps change the ISO enter on the base kit to the same teal as the ANSI? Especially since it's dark on the midnight kit.
With that change and depending on bank balance I'm in
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It’s already in the base kit? Or am I missing something?
So how soon is very soon? :) Can’t wait for this set!Any eta on more renders?
VERY soon ;D
What's the possibility of getting the other color options added for the split spacebars?
What is the estimated timeline for this moving to GB stage?
Is there absolutely zero chance of a 40s kit?
Is there any harm in offering the 40s kit and cancelling it if there isn’t enough interest? I definitely understand not footing the bill for the unpurchased kits but think it should at least have a chance.What is the estimated timeline for this moving to GB stage?
Currently aiming at late Q1, early Q2. But waiting on a few things before a date can be finalizedIs there absolutely zero chance of a 40s kit?
Not zero. I have a 40s kit made out, but right now i'm talking with people on the viability of it making MOQ. A few examples...
The GMK Space Cadet buy on MD only made 95/100 on its 40's kit (which was a $129 standalone kit), and the recently completed GMK DMG from TheKeyCompany only hit 39/100 on the 40's kit—Requiring TKC to buy out the remaining 60+ kits to get them produced. Generous of him, but we may not be in the same position should we come up that short. Currently as it stands the IC survey for this set, only had 37 people ask for a 40's kit. This leaves us VERY short, even with the assumption that everyone who answered is in a position to join.
It is not my intention to dismiss those asking for the kit, but hopefully that adds a little light for those asking.
Is there any harm in offering the 40s kit and cancelling it if there isn’t enough interest? I definitely understand not footing the bill for the unpurchased kits but think it should at least have a chance.
Not inherently. But because a 40's kit would require the commitment to a base kit as well, it can create a predicament. So for example, say the base kit makes MOQ to 260, but 40 of those are people who back out because the 40s kit didn't make it... it takes the base kit back below the MOQ threshold by 30 kits. Leaving those in the base thinking it was going to make it, and then having it not. This would mean either footing the bill for the difference in base kit, or footing the bill to get MOQ on the 40s kit, which might end up being around the same price. My guess is that this is what happened with the GMK DMG buy.
Transparently... by the numbers in the IC survey there is little chance of the 40s kit making it to full MOQ, so it really comes down to if there is enough interest in vendor/proxies/etc. buying the extras. Right now i am talking with a few people to see about the risk on this, and that will determine whether a 40's kit gets added.
Again, hopefully this helps give some context for those in the limbo. Doin what i can peeps.
QuoteIs there any harm in offering the 40s kit and cancelling it if there isn’t enough interest? I definitely understand not footing the bill for the unpurchased kits but think it should at least have a chance.
Not inherently. But because a 40's kit would require the commitment to a base kit as well, it can create a predicament. So for example, say the base kit makes MOQ to 260, but 40 of those are people who back out because the 40s kit didn't make it... it takes the base kit back below the MOQ threshold by 30 kits. Leaving those in the base thinking it was going to make it, and then having it not. This would mean either footing the bill for the difference in base kit, or footing the bill to get MOQ on the 40s kit, which might end up being around the same price. My guess is that this is what happened with the GMK DMG buy.
Transparently... by the numbers in the IC survey there is little chance of the 40s kit making it to full MOQ, so it really comes down to if there is enough interest in vendor/proxies/etc. buying the extras. Right now i am talking with a few people to see about the risk on this, and that will determine whether a 40's kit gets added.
Again, hopefully this helps give some context for those in the limbo. Doin what i can peeps.
Do you think it’ll hit gb in Q1?
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Currently aiming at late Q1, early Q2. But waiting on a few things before a date can be finalized
Do you think it’ll hit gb in Q1?
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Currently aiming at late Q1, early Q2. But waiting on a few things before a date can be finalized
Thanks! I'll be waiting for those renders ;)
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Renders are in! A big thank you to Oblotsky for his talented work on these!
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Any chance we could get R3 and R4 PgUp and PgDn added?
I am very sad that the 2u shift was removed.
Also, is it just me or is the photograph of the physical 5395c pantone pretty much just black? Is this the same thing that happened with Solarized Dark? As of right now, if GMK is matching to that physical pantone, the renders are not going to be representative of the final product.
I don't know the ins and outs of picking pantones, but to my eyes, this color seems to be more representative of the renders (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/7546-C).
Any chance we could get R3 and R4 PgUp and PgDn added?This please or 1U novelties per row if possible.
I don’t get why the 2u Shift was dropped, this kind of layout is more and more popular. I myself have 2 boards with a 2u Shift key. If you can please consider putting it back. I love this key set otherwise!2u shift is still a very minor layout
Any chance we could get R3 and R4 PgUp and PgDn added?This please or 1U novelties per row if possible.
Unfortunately that would start adding too many keys per kit, but in the Signs novelties there are enough 1Us on each row to cover a full 65/75% column :)
Would it be possible to add the street sign enter novelty in teal color as well?
This set really looks amazing! What is the color code for the keycaps? I want to know how this would fit on a dark solarized 65-a. Thanks!
i really enjoy the colors in this set, but I use ortho boards. So I tried to see how to assemble a planck layout with base and the novelties, and find it hard to visualize. Any chance for a render? I was thinking about the following:
The Assembly Base Kits that have been offered recently have solved this problem by grouping Ergodox and 40's users with their own base kit, so if it fails, the main base kit will still be supported. Check out the Assembly kit in Oblivion V2 for reference.
Edit: Never mind on the 40 bit kit, I just saw your previous post mentioning Space Cadet
Nephlok - Thank You for the detailed information, concise answers and professional (yep!) way you've handled this IC and explained things. Looking forward to the GB!
Nephlok - Thank You for the detailed information, concise answers and professional (yep!) way you've handled this IC and explained things. Looking forward to the GB!
Yeah, this is honestly one of the nicest-run ICs I've seen. Neph is very receptive and communicative. I love this thread.
Whether I buy or not depends on the price, but I have to agree with some posters that losing the 2U shift is a bit unfortunate.
Any 2U R4 novelties can be used instead - ideally with red legend as well?
Oof, that is unfortunate that the Novelties are not being sold :'(I believe he is saying that Novelties kit will be sold as is, with no more addition of keys to it.
But still looking forward for this keyset! :thumb:
Oof, that is unfortunate that the Novelties are not being sold :'(I believe he is saying that Novelties kit will be sold as is, with no more addition of keys to it.
But still looking forward for this keyset! :thumb:
Oof, that is unfortunate that the Novelties are not being sold :'(I believe he is saying that Novelties kit will be sold as is, with no more addition of keys to it.
But still looking forward for this keyset! :thumb:
Will there be a RAMA collab aluminium keycap?
Will there be a RAMA collab aluminium keycap?
Not planning on having a RAMA collab on this. We will be working with KeyForge on an artisan collab for those that join in the buy, so stay tuned for updates on that!
Unfortunately the novelties are not going to be added to, due to pricing, but there is a 2uc in the spacebars kit, or always the option to use numpad 0. I realize neither of these are ideal, but in my goal to keep kit prices on the low end some of the less common layouts could not receive accurate legend caps.
Unfortunately the novelties are not going to be added to, due to pricing, but there is a 2uc in the spacebars kit, or always the option to use numpad 0. I realize neither of these are ideal, but in my goal to keep kit prices on the low end some of the less common layouts could not receive accurate legend caps.
Thanks for the reply.
So for those who need R4 2U key, we should get the spacebar kit instead of the novelty kit, right?
And speaking of which, do you have any projected price of the kits? Ballpark figures, perhaps?
That's correct, yes. Pricing on the kits will be coming shortly as well!
honestly the contrast of the blue is so weak that I missed all alpha colored spacebars in that pack initially. Only when I saw that it contains 11 keys I realized there are alpha colored spacebars in itUnfortunately the novelties are not going to be added to, due to pricing, but there is a 2uc in the spacebars kit, or always the option to use numpad 0. I realize neither of these are ideal, but in my goal to keep kit prices on the low end some of the less common layouts could not receive accurate legend caps.
Thanks for the reply.
So for those who need R4 2U key, we should get the spacebar kit instead of the novelty kit, right?
And speaking of which, do you have any projected price of the kits? Ballpark figures, perhaps?
I would like to know more about this too. I adore Keyforge artisans but I have only ever won one raffle. It would be incredible if those that join the buy actually have more than a cursory chance at getting a matching artisan from Keyforge.Will there be a RAMA collab aluminium keycap?
Not planning on having a RAMA collab on this. We will be working with KeyForge on an artisan collab for those that join in the buy, so stay tuned for updates on that!
Does this mean that the artisan is going to be a raffle?
I would like to know more about this too. I adore Keyforge artisans but I have only ever won one raffle. It would be incredible if those that join the buy actually have more than a cursory chance at getting a matching artisan from Keyforge.Will there be a RAMA collab aluminium keycap?
Not planning on having a RAMA collab on this. We will be working with KeyForge on an artisan collab for those that join in the buy, so stay tuned for updates on that!
Does this mean that the artisan is going to be a raffle?
Unfortunately the novelties are not going to be added to, due to pricing, but there is a 2uc in the spacebars kit, or always the option to use numpad 0. I realize neither of these are ideal, but in my goal to keep kit prices on the low end some of the less common layouts could not receive accurate legend caps.
Thanks for the reply.
So for those who need R4 2U key, we should get the spacebar kit instead of the novelty kit, right?
And speaking of which, do you have any projected price of the kits? Ballpark figures, perhaps?
That's correct, yes. Pricing on the kits will be coming shortly as well!
any updates on pricing and other info?
Oh man, I was just thinking over earlier if I want to get this or the GMK Oblivion set. My wallet will not like the next few months.
Do they typically reduce the price if it exceeds a certain MOQ like the ones in MD?
Typically not on these smaller boutique buys, since it is fairly rare to reach MD levels of kits, but that doesn't mean there arent other ways. Bento is close (or maybe already) at the 500 base kit threshold, and i know that there are plans to add some keys to the kit as a bonus.
Oh man, I was just thinking over earlier if I want to get this or the GMK Oblivion set. My wallet will not like the next few months.
Do they typically reduce the price if it exceeds a certain MOQ like the ones in MD?
Typically not on these smaller boutique buys, since it is fairly rare to reach MD levels of kits, but that doesn't mean there arent other ways. Bento is close (or maybe already) at the 500 base kit threshold, and i know that there are plans to add some keys to the kit as a bonus.
will the deskmats be sold during the GB period?
why no NORDE / International Kit??? :(
why no NORDE / International Kit??? :(
Would love to, but massdrop is the only vendor that can even come close enough to a MOQ to get those made. Smaller buys like this aren't able to even come close.
This is going to be my first GB, I'm so excited!!!
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Honestly some of the stuff I'm seeing is amazing. This is going to be a present to myself for quiting cigarettes. Looks like I've found a new thing to spend 300$ on every month!This is going to be my first GB, I'm so excited!!!
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Out of the current ongoing offerings, I don't think you can find a better set to start with!
Of course, once you pop that pringles lid, you won't be able to stop....
This is going to be a present to myself for quiting cigarettes. Looks like I've found a new thing to spend 300$ on every month!
Yes. Sacrifice is the name of the game.This is going to be a present to myself for quiting cigarettes. Looks like I've found a new thing to spend 300$ on every month!
Oh, that's how I'm supposed to find the money to support this hobby :))
Pretty sure you'd have to pay 100x to make it hit the cost at which it is worth GMK producing it, so if that's your idea of "a lot extra" you may be in luck.
Pretty sure you'd have to pay 100x to make it hit the cost at which it is worth GMK producing it, so if that's your idea of "a lot extra" you may be in luck.
Who should I contact, to see how much it would really cost? :) I might consider it :P
There should be a SA version of this drop in near future, and soon.Is this for sure or a suggestion? I would be very interested.
There should be a SA version of this drop in near future, and soon.Is this for sure or a suggestion? I would be very interested.
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Grail set would be Metropolis with yellow Hangul (Korean) sub legends.
Maybe next round?
What's the purpose of the cyan |\ key in base kit R1?I think that's a fairly standard 60/65% layout thing? Probably a HHKB layout thing.
Ah, HHKB, makes sense. Not really standard on 60/65 though, which is why I didn't realize it. Thanks ;-)What's the purpose of the cyan |\ key in base kit R1?I think that's a fairly standard 60/65% layout thing? Probably a HHKB layout thing.
Come to think of it, it's probably only "standard" on the HHKB-inspired 60/65%s :))Ah, HHKB, makes sense. Not really standard on 60/65 though, which is why I didn't realize it. Thanks ;-)What's the purpose of the cyan |\ key in base kit R1?I think that's a fairly standard 60/65% layout thing? Probably a HHKB layout thing.
Is it too late to ask for a 1.25 key in space kits? Anyway this set is amazing and and would be a must-buy.
Hello I am really in to this set, is there any EU vendors you can fix? There is plenty of them I would be glad if you asked them like mykeyboard.eu or candykeys. Also for the desk pads I hope you can fix EU vendor as well :D Looking forward to this.I think mykeyboard.eu is listed as the EU proxy for this, so you should be good. Not sure for the deskmats, though
Hello I am really in to this set, is there any EU vendors you can fix? There is plenty of them I would be glad if you asked them like mykeyboard.eu or candykeys. Also for the desk pads I hope you can fix EU vendor as well :D Looking forward to this.I think mykeyboard.eu is listed as the EU proxy for this, so you should be good. Not sure for the deskmats, though
Hello I am really in to this set, is there any EU vendors you can fix? There is plenty of them I would be glad if you asked them like mykeyboard.eu or candykeys. Also for the desk pads I hope you can fix EU vendor as well :D Looking forward to this.I think mykeyboard.eu is listed as the EU proxy for this, so you should be good. Not sure for the deskmats, though
I don’t think there will be an issue with them as a proxy for deskpads as well.
Hello I am really in to this set, is there any EU vendors you can fix? There is plenty of them I would be glad if you asked them like mykeyboard.eu or candykeys. Also for the desk pads I hope you can fix EU vendor as well :D Looking forward to this.I think mykeyboard.eu is listed as the EU proxy for this, so you should be good. Not sure for the deskmats, though
I don’t think there will be an issue with them as a proxy for deskpads as well.
Hello I am really in to this set, is there any EU vendors you can fix? There is plenty of them I would be glad if you asked them like mykeyboard.eu or candykeys. Also for the desk pads I hope you can fix EU vendor as well :D Looking forward to this.I think mykeyboard.eu is listed as the EU proxy for this, so you should be good. Not sure for the deskmats, though
I don’t think there will be an issue with them as a proxy for deskpads as well.
Happy this is running on Novelkeys!
Hope this drops tomorrow haha. Some wait time to sit through.
Definitely in
Hello I am really in to this set, is there any EU vendors you can fix? There is plenty of them I would be glad if you asked them like mykeyboard.eu or candykeys. Also for the desk pads I hope you can fix EU vendor as well :D Looking forward to this.I think mykeyboard.eu is listed as the EU proxy for this, so you should be good. Not sure for the deskmats, though
I don’t think there will be an issue with them as a proxy for deskpads as well.
Happy this is running on Novelkeys!
Hope this drops tomorrow haha. Some wait time to sit through.
Definitely in
dropping tmr just for oldcat. all in!
Sorry it's hard to tell the units for the spacebars, but just making sure it's the 2.25 / 2.75 split is included?
Is it too late to ask for a 1.25 key in space kits? Anyway this set is amazing and and would be a must-buy.
If 1.25 space can still go in, I'd love to have 2u shift key in the main kit ;D
Btw OP, can kindly put the key sizes on the kit pictures? (for the non 1u like 1.25u, 1.5u, 1.75u, etc). Would be easier for a noob like me to see the dimension & possible combinations. Thanks.
Is it too late to ask for a 1.25 key in space kits? Anyway this set is amazing and and would be a must-buy.
If 1.25 space can still go in, I'd love to have 2u shift key in the main kit ;D
Btw OP, can kindly put the key sizes on the kit pictures? (for the non 1u like 1.25u, 1.5u, 1.75u, etc). Would be easier for a noob like me to see the dimension & possible combinations. Thanks.
Those renders are straight from GMK, so they are not easily manipulated, but i will see what i can do!
As of right now, the kits are locked and there will be no new keys added. If we manage to reach 500 MOQ on the base kit we will have the opportunity to put in a few extra keys, how many and which ones hasn't been determined yet.
Anyone know if this set would look nice in a polycarb case?
Anyone know if this set would look nice in a polycarb case?
That’s great! Think65 is the board I’m planning on gettingAnyone know if this set would look nice in a polycarb case?
It should!
I will put on some deep color caps on THINK65 and share pictures when I get the prototype soon. I have quite a few keycap sets to work with.
That’s great! Think65 is the board I’m planning on gettingAnyone know if this set would look nice in a polycarb case?
It should!
I will put on some deep color caps on THINK65 and share pictures when I get the prototype soon. I have quite a few keycap sets to work with.
might be a dumb question but.. will this be on english zF too?
QuoteIs there any harm in offering the 40s kit and cancelling it if there isn’t enough interest? I definitely understand not footing the bill for the unpurchased kits but think it should at least have a chance.
Not inherently. But because a 40's kit would require the commitment to a base kit as well, it can create a predicament. So for example, say the base kit makes MOQ to 260, but 40 of those are people who back out because the 40s kit didn't make it... it takes the base kit back below the MOQ threshold by 30 kits. Leaving those in the base thinking it was going to make it, and then having it not. This would mean either footing the bill for the difference in base kit, or footing the bill to get MOQ on the 40s kit, which might end up being around the same price. My guess is that this is what happened with the GMK DMG buy.
Transparently... by the numbers in the IC survey there is little chance of the 40s kit making it to full MOQ, so it really comes down to if there is enough interest in vendor/proxies/etc. buying the extras. Right now i am talking with a few people to see about the risk on this, and that will determine whether a 40's kit gets added.
Again, hopefully this helps give some context for those in the limbo. Doin what i can peeps.
The Assembly Base Kits that have been offered recently have solved this problem by grouping Ergodox and 40's users with their own base kit, so if it fails, the main base kit will still be supported. Check out the Assembly kit in Oblivion V2 for reference.
Edit: Never mind on the 40 bit kit, I just saw your previous post mentioning Space Cadet
Will support this as well most likely. Mad set.If your price or shipping fee is lower for me I'll buy from you probably. Gmk metro is a great set it will sell A LOT
Will support this as well most likely. Mad set.If your price or shipping fee is lower for me I'll buy from you probably. Gmk metro is a great set it will sell A LOT
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Lmfao okWill support this as well most likely. Mad set.If your price or shipping fee is lower for me I'll buy from you probably. Gmk metro is a great set it will sell A LOT
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We are not the resellers in the EU, I just wanted to buy the set myself for personal use :) Sorry!
I registered just to post that I want to build at least 2 keyboards with Metropolis. Really amazing kit! Congrats!
We are not the resellers in the EU, I just wanted to buy the set myself for personal use :) Sorry!
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I would be allllll over this if the alphas were separate or if the base kit came with midnight mods instead of all the colors. As it stands now it’s way too expensive for me to justify base+midnight for a TKL board. :(
Can someone explain how did he keep the price of the base kit so competitive? Why do some other base kits price higher and why are some able to price theirs differently?
What makes the price? The custom colours? margin of profit?
Can someone explain how did he keep the price of the base kit so competitive? Why do some other base kits price higher and why are some able to price theirs differently?
What makes the price? The custom colours? margin of profit?
For NovelKeys, at least, we priced this with the aim of hitting 500 MOQ.
Price is determined basically by a couple things
- Number of keys
- Novelties (because Novelties are separate, it helps the cost of the base kit)
- MOQ (For custom colors this starts at 250, for stock, it starts at 150)
Set looks great!I'd suggest just slapping in novelties. But yes, Home/End/PgUp/PgDn is way more logical than Home/PgUp/PgDn/End in my opinion, which is used mostly for historical reasons? And you also need one less special keycap in the set...
I know I'm far too late to the party for this, but I do wish more sets would include R3/R4 PgUp/PgDn. I feel like I talk to people who use this layout, but maybe I'm just weird.
Can someone explain how did he keep the price of the base kit so competitive? Why do some other base kits price higher and why are some able to price theirs differently?
I know I'm far too late to the party for this, but I do wish more sets would include R3/R4 PgUp/PgDn. I feel like I talk to people who use this layout, but maybe I'm just weird.I'd suggest just slapping in novelties. But yes, Home/End/PgUp/PgDn is way more logical than Home/PgUp/PgDn/End in my opinion, which is used mostly for historical reasons? And you also need one less special keycap in the set...
Wonder how this would look in a yellow case
I'd suggest just slapping in novelties. But yes, Home/End/PgUp/PgDn is way more logical than Home/PgUp/PgDn/End in my opinion, which is used mostly for historical reasons? And you also need one less special keycap in the set...
Can someone explain how did he keep the price of the base kit so competitive? Why do some other base kits price higher and why are some able to price theirs differently?
As Mike mentioned above, one of the biggest factors in the pricing of the base kit was splitting the novelties, as well as keeping keycap quantity in check. While i would have loved to cover everyones layouts, the hard decisions come down to a balance of common layouts and realistic need.I know I'm far too late to the party for this, but I do wish more sets would include R3/R4 PgUp/PgDn. I feel like I talk to people who use this layout, but maybe I'm just weird.I'd suggest just slapping in novelties. But yes, Home/End/PgUp/PgDn is way more logical than Home/PgUp/PgDn/End in my opinion, which is used mostly for historical reasons? And you also need one less special keycap in the set...
This is a great example that i wanted to call out, primarily because it exemplifies how i arrived at most of my decisions. What should be covered, and how can it be done efficiently. This does leave a few users with maybe not their ideal caps, but novelties can always be used in a pinch, and it benefits the whole by not bloating the kits.
This keyset also had a unique problem as well.. Every extra modifier key added to the base, HAD to be added to the midnight kit for identical coverage. Adding one, is really adding two. Further pushing costs into a realm i felt like became unapproachable for people.
In the end everyone has different opinions on kitting, and it will always benefit some while punishing others. Huge kits are the cheapest per cap, but force you to pay for a majority of caps you might not use. Splitting the kits like some recently is high $/cap and keeps it cheaper overall for those that need less, but severely deters those who need extended coverage. My personal opinion is more in the middle. I've done my best to keep the kits low and simple, while breaking where i felt it made sense and wouldn't be a major deterrent for those wanting a little extra.
So for all those that might be missing a cap or two from your ideal layout, take solace in the fact that its absence likely helped somebody even get the set to begin with.
That said, thank you again for all those that have supported this set! We're less than a week out and I couldn't be more pleased.
See you on the other side!
-Neph
RIP wallets
RIP wallets
The motto of the hobby.
RIP wallets
The motto of the hobby.
Even a bigger hole for those not living in USA with exchange rates, shipping and duties/taxes.
Story of my :p
"Oh! Nice GMK set in a GB for like $130!"
"...wait, that's USD, so it's like $180ish AUD..."
"...wait, then add 10% GST for Australian imports..."
"...wait, then add $15ish for shipping..."
"....bah"
"...wait, then add 10% GST for Australian imports..."
MY BODY IS READY
Any updates on the keyforge artisan that is being made for this set?
First time I've ordered a set before the GB thread was even out!
Not sure if I can combine the matching Deskpad with the keycaps at Novelkeys. I get a pop up window that says consider revising... Hope I can get these all in one order. Well, at least there is still plenty of time.
Not sure if I can combine the matching Deskpad with the keycaps at Novelkeys. I get a pop up window that says consider revising... Hope I can get these all in one order. Well, at least there is still plenty of time.
You can’t, they’ve already said that. They will ship at completely different times.
Render base color is really off with the real thing. It's far brighter than what is shown on the color comparison pics. I guess it's safe to assume it will come off as 98% black.My worry as well, since the base color sample in the imgur album looks almost black.
Render base color is really off with the real thing. It's far brighter than what is shown on the color comparison pics. I guess it's safe to assume it will come off as 98% black.My worry as well, since the base color sample in the imgur album looks almost black.
Iirc Nephlock has mentioned that he would ensure the colors stay true to the renders though.
As we wait for the GB page to go live, just wanted to give a quick update.Happy to have helped :D
We have already surpassed what Bento did on the first day on our site. This is an excellent start!
Does anybody know if you can pre-order the cable and deskmat from NovelKeys in a single order? Or do those have to be shipped separately like the keycaps?
Does anybody know if you can pre-order the cable and deskmat from NovelKeys in a single order? Or do those have to be shipped separately like the keycaps?
Does anybody know if you can pre-order the cable and deskmat from NovelKeys in a single order? Or do those have to be shipped separately like the keycaps?Yea these all have to be separate due to the different shipping time each will have. I just don't have the space to be able to keep everything that is pending.
maybe it has been asked, can you add both deskmat and the caps in the same cart?Nope, since they'll be fulfilled separately.
already purchased base and midnight kits :)
Render base color is really off with the real thing. It's far brighter than what is shown on the color comparison pics. I guess it's safe to assume it will come off as 98% black.My worry as well, since the base color sample in the imgur album looks almost black.
Iirc Nephlock has mentioned that he would ensure the colors stay true to the renders though.
Hopefully that's the case, because as it is now I'm not too keen on it being really close to black unless you scrutinize it, then you can tell the difference (barely). Also I haven't been up to date with this thread, is there any news about price drops for reaching certain MOQ?
Render base color is really off with the real thing. It's far brighter than what is shown on the color comparison pics. I guess it's safe to assume it will come off as 98% black.My worry as well, since the base color sample in the imgur album looks almost black.
Iirc Nephlock has mentioned that he would ensure the colors stay true to the renders though.
Hopefully that's the case, because as it is now I'm not too keen on it being really close to black unless you scrutinize it, then you can tell the difference (barely). Also I haven't been up to date with this thread, is there any news about price drops for reaching certain MOQ?
I’ll just have to wait for the sampling as I’m not sure how I’d feel if it is closer to black. I like the dark navy and the desk mat looks like a dark navy or is it supposed to look almost black? Hard to tell since resolutions will differ in all screens.
Order in and set... Ended up getting all 4 (Mah wallet) :( . When you finish the artisan where / how will we grab one?
For the cable, if you chose 3' and coil is the overall cable length 3' or just the straight portion of the cable?
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Metropolis love (I’m already in the Gb!)A thing of beauty! What board is that?
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I'd like to use this Metropolis cable in a TKC1800, which requires a certain amount of length to pass through interior cable routing before exiting the case.
Every coil cable I've personally gotten thus far is too short on the usb mini end, however.
Anyone know if there is a process to order this cable and guarantee adequate length on that end, either before the coil or before an aviator connector?
I'd like to use this Metropolis cable in a TKC1800, which requires a certain amount of length to pass through interior cable routing before exiting the case.
Every coil cable I've personally gotten thus far is too short on the usb mini end, however.
Anyone know if there is a process to order this cable and guarantee adequate length on that end, either before the coil or before an aviator connector?
If you have specific requirements for a cable, hit up Spaztikolon from Spaztik Cables, and he can make a custom tailored one for you. The price will be a little bit higher, but I know that he is willing to do that. :)
Metropolis love (I’m already in the Gb!)A thing of beauty! What board is that?
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I'd like to use this Metropolis cable in a TKC1800, which requires a certain amount of length to pass through interior cable routing before exiting the case.
Every coil cable I've personally gotten thus far is too short on the usb mini end, however.
Anyone know if there is a process to order this cable and guarantee adequate length on that end, either before the coil or before an aviator connector?
If you have specific requirements for a cable, hit up Spaztikolon from Spaztik Cables, and he can make a custom tailored one for you. The price will be a little bit higher, but I know that he is willing to do that. :)
Also, just a quick numbers update.
Without updates from the proxies here are our numbers from yesterday.
Base - 101
Midnight - 25
Signs - 69
Blocks - 46
I would imagine we are closer to 150 base with all of the proxies. Because this is performing so well, we are already starting the color matching process. :)
Nephlock really hit a home-run with this set!
Any updates on the collab KF artisan? Missed the wavez artisan cuz they did it at the beginning of group buy :(
OOPS shouldve posted over at the GB post
Any updates on the collab KF artisan? Missed the wavez artisan cuz they did it at the beginning of group buy :(
OOPS shouldve posted over at the GB post
No worries! KF Has been delayed with his last sale, but ours are definitely coming. Our raffle will be done throughout the entire buying window though, so you can rest easy.
Will update you guys as soon as I have something :)
I dont know if i should get this or gmk wabezI was thinking same but might have to bite the bullet and do both. Love that the bum pad is included in the base kit for Metropolis.
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...bum pad...
I dont know if i should get this or gmk wabezI was thinking same but might have to bite the bullet and do both. Love that the bum pad is included in the base kit for Metropolis.
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Hello,In short yes, a space bar in the block set will fit your board (the space bar on the base set will as well), however your board has a non-standard bottom row so getting the control/alt/win/fn key to work together will be a problem.
Sorry for the basic question (I'm new to custom key caps).
Will one of the spacebars in the block kit fit a Corsair K63?
Any update on this?